WEBVTT - Exciting Dynamite/Surprise Debut Recap

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it all. How's it going to everybody? Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every

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<v Speaker 1>sixth Eastern. Well, that brand new graphic they're all you

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<v Speaker 1>watching on video? Wow? How fancy? And I'm out of

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<v Speaker 1>focus again. Someday we'll remember this one now it says

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<v Speaker 1>it's on auto focus. Whatever. We got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>news get into today. It is Thursday on this program,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what that means. We got a w

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<v Speaker 1>Dynamite to talk about last night, very very exciting edition

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<v Speaker 1>of Dynamite. And on top of that, we've got, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the debuts of the two big surprises, who were in

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<v Speaker 1>fact the two big surprises that I predicted yesterday. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about those later, but first, a couple of deaths

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<v Speaker 1>to our ports. Uh Super Munyako passed away at fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine following a battle with health issues. He had been

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<v Speaker 1>hospitalized in serious condition due to a long issue from

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen. So for all of you that are decided

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<v Speaker 1>this pandemic is over, It's not over for everybody. He

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<v Speaker 1>was hospitalized lung issue. They actually he was out of

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital and on Monday show we had reported that

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<v Speaker 1>he was recuperating, but then he took a turn for

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<v Speaker 1>the worst and passed away. He wrestled in a clown

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<v Speaker 1>gimmick part of Los Trios Fantasia with Super Ratone and

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<v Speaker 1>Super Pinocco doing a Pinocchio gimmick for kids. So sad

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<v Speaker 1>story there and also passing away, I believe also as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of COVID complications are Touro rivera longtime announcer

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<v Speaker 1>for Lucha Libre A Triple A, passed away at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of sixty seven. They confirmed the news on social

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<v Speaker 1>media Wednesday. Hospitalized due to multiple health problems. Family recently

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<v Speaker 1>requested a blooded donors. For those of you that watched uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was my glory period watching Lucci every week,

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<v Speaker 1>Triple A and CMLL in the early two thousand's. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was one of the voices of commentary with Dr

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<v Speaker 1>Alfonso morale As so very said story there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You have comments in any of those, you can text

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<v Speaker 1>us with your memories. We'll get into all of the

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<v Speaker 1>news with Mike Simpler viv after the break. Lots to

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<v Speaker 1>get into today back in a moment of Server Live.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got a bunch of twitch homies here today

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<v Speaker 1>because YouTube ain working. That's why it's always good make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you have a subscription to twitch dot tv

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<v Speaker 1>slash Chef four W video in case things like that

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<v Speaker 1>happened and YouTube is not working. But you know what's

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<v Speaker 1>working is a lot of the things going on in

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<v Speaker 1>in a W. You guys forget who the two surprises

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<v Speaker 1>were last night. You know it's funny is uh we

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<v Speaker 1>did a show yesterday and I said, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who they're gonna be, but I'll tell you I think

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<v Speaker 1>they are. I think it's Keith Lee and j White

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<v Speaker 1>and uh so I think it's brilliant Rose. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of guys that they get clips of this

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<v Speaker 1>show and they put it up on They put the

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<v Speaker 1>clips up on YouTube, and man, you you think my actually,

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<v Speaker 1>the the the YouTube comments are not as bad as

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<v Speaker 1>my Twitter mentions, but there's some there's some dumb people there,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple of people are like god, Brian and Dave,

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<v Speaker 1>They spoil all sorts of things from from w W,

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<v Speaker 1>and they never spoil anything for a W. Like, first off,

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<v Speaker 1>the names I gave where the names that actually showed

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<v Speaker 1>up on Wednesday night, And uh, you wanna know why

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<v Speaker 1>we almost never spoil anything from a W. I never

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going on. I don't know if everyone's required

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<v Speaker 1>to sign n d s or something like that, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're just like, you know, whatever, But I never

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<v Speaker 1>know what's going on in advance in a W. I

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<v Speaker 1>I figured it was j White and Keith Lee, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know for sure. But I I told you

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<v Speaker 1>what I knew, and that's what they ended up being.

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<v Speaker 1>So the story of this is on Friday, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have his tweet in front of me, but Tony Khan

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<v Speaker 1>made some comment about how somebody was going to step

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<v Speaker 1>through the forbidden door and they were going to sign

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<v Speaker 1>a contract with a W and listen, I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>care much about the verbiage of forbidden door, but some

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<v Speaker 1>people are really hung up on it if he says

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<v Speaker 1>the forbidden door. So, uh, Tony heard all of this

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<v Speaker 1>criticism because people were expecting it to be someone from

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<v Speaker 1>New Japan, because New Japan has traditionally been what is

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<v Speaker 1>considered the forbidden door, because for a while it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>for in door. There was there were political issues between

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<v Speaker 1>a W and New Japan, and so that was the

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<v Speaker 1>forbidden door. A W guys weren't going to New Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>New Japan wasn't going, they weren't working together. So Tanahashi

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<v Speaker 1>did a a promo and he wanted to step through

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<v Speaker 1>the forbidden door. He said to go to a W. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know kind of went all over the internet this

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<v Speaker 1>forbidden door, and so Tony, you know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if he trademarket or whatever, but he's he's using the

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<v Speaker 1>forbidden door term. So you know, he heard over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone expecting it to be Keith Lee. But Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Lee wouldn't technically be the forbidden door. He's a free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>So once he heard that this was what was being

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<v Speaker 1>discussed with fans, he went to New Japan and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>can I get j White? Because now people are expecting

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<v Speaker 1>somebody from New Japan to UH to show up, So

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<v Speaker 1>all of this speculation. I've had this speculation about j

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<v Speaker 1>White for like three weeks now. It was never the

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<v Speaker 1>plan to like Sunday Now, the reason I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be j White was because if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>watching New Japan Strong not a show goes By where

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<v Speaker 1>J White does not talk about going to a W.

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<v Speaker 1>So inevitably he was going to be going to a W.

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<v Speaker 1>But what happened was he showed up and he helped

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<v Speaker 1>to beat up ra Punky Vice, and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be on Rampage on Friday. No spoilers in case you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are you know who could possibly win the Young

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks and Rapunk device. I actually don't know. I forgot,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, if you want to know, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>the spoilers up on the front page. But he's there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the big debut that signed a contract with

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<v Speaker 1>a W was in fact Keith Lee, who uh absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>just got over as the biggest superstar here on this

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<v Speaker 1>show just by you know, smashing poor Isaiah Cassidy, who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the old saying he got frequent flyer miles.

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<v Speaker 1>The very first spot was Keith Lee beeling this guy

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<v Speaker 1>so high I thought he was gonna go over the

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<v Speaker 1>post to the floor on the other side of the ring.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest meal you ever saw like that that it

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<v Speaker 1>was off to the races from there. He you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did a couple of things, but mostly was just a

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<v Speaker 1>gigantic monster. People went nuts for the guy. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a tweet today saying that he's gotta got

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work to do. He's gotta you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the grind starts. Now. I think that's in reference to

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<v Speaker 1>dropping a little bit of weight, because he was absolutely gigantic.

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<v Speaker 1>He looked like it was three sixty pounds, legit, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, there you go. That's the story of Keith Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>How did he get over everybody working like a big

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<v Speaker 1>man but being able to be Keith Lee? Unlike w W

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<v Speaker 1>W either wanted a big man who wasn't Keith Lee.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted a bearcat. Carl, I can't wait for B

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<v Speaker 1>to e this week. What were your thoughts on these

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<v Speaker 1>two stories, Mike, I don't watch BAT much, but do

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<v Speaker 1>you think Adam Cole will make an appearance with Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Lee at any point to poke fun at that? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe at the barber shop where Adam all considers about

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<v Speaker 1>getting his haircut. But yeah, those days are long gone

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<v Speaker 1>for both of those guys. And Keith Lee certainly made

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<v Speaker 1>an impact last night. Whether he's a couple of biscuits

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<v Speaker 1>too heavy or not, whatever, I don't care. It didn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter in that match at all. Sure he was big,

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<v Speaker 1>Sure that's probably something he's got to work on, but whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't matter last night because he was throwing Isaih

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<v Speaker 1>Cassidy around, who flew like a champ for him, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a very simple, dominant performance. I thought everything

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<v Speaker 1>really went perfectly. I really did. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent Everything about it was excellent. Keith Lee catching

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Quinn on that rona attempt, I mean, just everything

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<v Speaker 1>I thought worked perfectly there on what was a a

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<v Speaker 1>great night, with the exception of Jade nick A. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that match went sideways at the point, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you take that out of the mix, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a really good show. And you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>people will probably poke fun at the twenty minute open

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<v Speaker 1>and say it compares to Raw, but the twenty did open,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, opening segment with the talk and the setting

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<v Speaker 1>up the match for later. If you don't do it

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, it works, it's special. You know. Even

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<v Speaker 1>with w w E, it's just it became a staple

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<v Speaker 1>of their programming, which I'm not a big fan of.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it when they mix it up, but a

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<v Speaker 1>w's usually starts off with a match, and certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>with the twenty minute talking segments. I thought, in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>with who was involved the whole thing, that we actually

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<v Speaker 1>worked out great. You know, I want to say something

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<v Speaker 1>about Keith Lee that when you first hear what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to say, you may think it's very insulting, but

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<v Speaker 1>honest to God, it's not. And the reason I bring

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<v Speaker 1>up this comparison is because we literally two days ago

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<v Speaker 1>just did a toga party and we watched WrestleMania nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched that Brett Hart Yokazuna match, and bro, I

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<v Speaker 1>love that match. It was only eight minutes. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>from when I was a kid so to speak, as

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<v Speaker 1>in my teens, dude, I always thought Yokazuna was awesome

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<v Speaker 1>and Yokazuna at the end was not awesome, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think you sort of had a a

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<v Speaker 1>rep of, you know, not being that great. But I

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was awesome. And that match with Bret Hart,

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<v Speaker 1>like he was just the best giant and Bret Hart

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, he's Bret Hard. But man, watch that

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<v Speaker 1>Yokasina Bret Hart match to see how a big dude

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<v Speaker 1>can just be a freaking monster. And two days later,

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Lee goes in there and he's big, like he's

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<v Speaker 1>three and fifty three and six minces. He's nowhere near

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<v Speaker 1>as big as Yokazuna. But that way, like this guy

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna be sprinting for for eight minutes. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>to pace himself. And just the way that Keith Lee

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<v Speaker 1>worked that match, it was exactly like Yoka is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>work that match with Bret Hard. It's like you stand

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<v Speaker 1>there and you're just enormous and you do some massive

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<v Speaker 1>power move and the other dude sells great for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just stand there and you're just big, and

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then you do something like super impressive,

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<v Speaker 1>Like every now and then Yokazuna would whip out that

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<v Speaker 1>that freaking leg drop. He just start sprinting and he

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<v Speaker 1>jump in the air and he just crushed this guy

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<v Speaker 1>and the people would like be screaming like he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be dead. I mean, the way that Keith Lee

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<v Speaker 1>worked this match and the way that yoks didn't work

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<v Speaker 1>the match with Brett, I mean, it's the exact same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought both of them were just great. Now. Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>Keith Leeve, he's gonna be a main of veentor he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to work long matches and he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to do more, and he'd be way better served at

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<v Speaker 1>like pounds three fifteen pounds, and hopefully he can get there.

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<v Speaker 1>But for what he did with Isaiah Cassidy, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was perfect. And in the land where there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of giants, he can change his style a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit and dial back on some of those things

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<v Speaker 1>that I know Dave was oh Man. What makes Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Lee is the agility in this and that he's in

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<v Speaker 1>a place where he can he can afford to just

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<v Speaker 1>be big and yeah he does, I guess whatever, have

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<v Speaker 1>to drop some weight and whatever, whatever, that's fine, But

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<v Speaker 1>because of where he's at, he does not have to

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<v Speaker 1>rely on doing that as much anymore. Now. Can he

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<v Speaker 1>take that out of his repertoire and change it up?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they want him to change it up? Does he

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<v Speaker 1>want to change it up? I don't know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know he can. And this could be the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>do some of that, take out some of those flying

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<v Speaker 1>through the ropes and actually concentrate on big man moves.

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<v Speaker 1>Back at a moment Observer Live back in the show

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<v Speaker 1>Bright nowba is here Wrestling Observer Live Mixumburvit also Wrestling

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<v Speaker 1>Observer dot Com. Well did the h Dynamite report here

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<v Speaker 1>in the bid we got a little bit of news

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<v Speaker 1>as a new show supposed to be. So the other

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<v Speaker 1>day we were talking about the Olympics and ratings, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the SmackDown rating was down against the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rampage was down against the Olympics, and Raw did

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<v Speaker 1>one point three million viewers. It's all time record low

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<v Speaker 1>viewership against the Olympics and only the second, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest eighteen forty nine. So I actually did worse

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<v Speaker 1>at one point in their normal time slot with no competition.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were on sci Fi obviously, So actually they

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<v Speaker 1>did a worse eighteen and forty nine on USA than

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<v Speaker 1>they did on Sci Fi, which is pretty amazing. But

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<v Speaker 1>the fact of the matter is, we knew this was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, and honest to God, all things considered, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought the rod number was actually right, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was gonna do much worse moving to Sci Fi,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when I actually watched the show, and uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave last night on Observer Radio noted that the that

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<v Speaker 1>first segment with Randy Orton and Riddle and Otis and

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<v Speaker 1>and Chad Gable, which I thought was just awesome. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that segment. One point one million viewers, bro. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>picked up after that, people started tuning in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of a lot of women and uh and and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Elderly folks they couldn't find it initially, but the young

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<v Speaker 1>men knew right where it was for some reason. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like saying elderly because I'm pretty much there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point of all of this is I said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about it. These numbers, the Olympics, competition, etcetera, etcetera.

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<v Speaker 1>But Bro, this n x T number, Oh my god, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>n x T on Sci Fi, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>they did the limited commercial interruptions gimmick because that always works. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to boost your number, do limited commercial interruptions.

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<v Speaker 1>It works every time because there's anywhere from twenty of

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<v Speaker 1>people that that switched the channel whenever you go to commercial.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of people. Dude. Like if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a million people watching, three hundred thousand turn off every time,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a commercial. Some of them come back, maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>all of them. But by eliminating the commercials, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>artificially can inflate the number. I mean, it's real, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a gimmick. So they had limited commercial interruptions and

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<v Speaker 1>a Women's championship match on this show and two Dusty

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<v Speaker 1>Classic matches. This show did four hundred thousand viewers and

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<v Speaker 1>a zero point zero seven in eighteen of forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>I mean eighteen to forty nine. Ring of Honor on

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<v Speaker 1>Sinclair running reruns has probably beaten this number. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>mL W maybe be beating this number. Impact Wrestling almost

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<v Speaker 1>surely gonna beat this number. And this is that this

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<v Speaker 1>is sci Fi, Like, it's not the USA network, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a network where RANG managed to get one point

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<v Speaker 1>four million viewers or something like that in the second

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<v Speaker 1>hour a point oh seven. Callly soly smokes, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>horrible number. And for whatever reason, you know, which I

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<v Speaker 1>can't explain, just because they like to make things hard

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<v Speaker 1>on themselves. They're not delaying this, uh, this big show,

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<v Speaker 1>the Valentine's Day Show. They're not delaying it a week.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna air it next week on Sci Fi. Why

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<v Speaker 1>even bother, like they're gonna do Day one, unlike Day

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<v Speaker 1>two and Day five and whatever every year, like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about that. But man, we gotta do this

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<v Speaker 1>Valentine's Day show, Uh, the day after Valentine's Day. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait a week. It's gotta be done, this Vengeance

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<v Speaker 1>Day show. And not even say Valentine's So anyway, horrible number, atrocious, appalling, horrific,

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<v Speaker 1>So it matches the show then, No, the show was

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<v Speaker 1>way better than that number. I'm not a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>the show always, but I mean the two Dusty Classic

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<v Speaker 1>matches were good, and you know, it was a bad

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<v Speaker 1>finish for the women's match. I mean, there was no

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<v Speaker 1>match as bad as the I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>the Jade Cargill match with a q A because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've talked about how green Jade is, but this

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<v Speaker 1>was not her fault at all on Dynamite Do you

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<v Speaker 1>hear me at all? How hard were Mark Sterling? And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, Bryce Rimsberg, God bless this guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>should have got paid double. He's screaming spots at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of his lungs and I had some people going,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you have to yell so loud, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, he should have yelled louder, because however loud

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<v Speaker 1>he was yelling, it wasn't working. Bad match, my goodness. Gracious.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk more about the h the a double show

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<v Speaker 1>after the next break, but I also want to mention

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday morning, there was a hoax candidacy filing that led

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<v Speaker 1>to speculation that Tony Khan would be entering the political arena.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacksonville Today reported on a statement of candidacy file last

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<v Speaker 1>September claimed that Tony Kahn yes, that Tony Khan would

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<v Speaker 1>be running as a Democrat in the race to represent

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<v Speaker 1>Florida's fourth congressional district. The report was picked up by

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Talk, NFL networks, E and RAP reported more,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was soon pointed out that Khan was not

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<v Speaker 1>listed as an active candidate for congress. Tony Cohn tweeted,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact checking standard for Pro Football Talk reporting is

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<v Speaker 1>far lower than that of a w's roving reporter, Tony, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what a horrible thing to say about Tony Shivanni. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not running for congress, Tony Khan said. This filing

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<v Speaker 1>is faker than Eddie Gilbert's apology to Tommy Rich in

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<v Speaker 1>p f T sources as trustworthy as m JF so

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<v Speaker 1>he's not running for office. Good job, t K Stack money.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, Tommy rich Did you call him? T

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<v Speaker 1>K Stack money? Ain't gonna be paying you, brother, I

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<v Speaker 1>should know. Yeah, and well because all the money's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>going to you and Dave Um. Just something to point

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<v Speaker 1>out about the n x T rating two. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to Brandon Thurston, looking at the numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>women eighteen to thirty four down nearly seventy five percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven thousand women on average watched seven thousand in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America. It's wild. It is absolutely wild.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, more people are gonna listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>show than women watching n x T two point oh.

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<v Speaker 1>On Sci Fi, dude, four hundred thousand people not aged

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen to forty nine. Three hundred and three thousand of

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<v Speaker 1>those people and probably not many of them were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>between zero and seventeens. So it's just a it is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of wild to see it. But then again, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean on sci Fi, I don't know what their average is.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's probably actually good. They'll spend this for

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<v Speaker 1>II Fi somehow, as it's actually been beneficial to them

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<v Speaker 1>to have this on there, and maybe that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>but for n XD, I mean, these are terrible numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean even like the Valentine's Day Show, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're there to create content and that's what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean that's it. I just it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a hard show to watch and I'm not surprised at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see if it rebounds back when it hits USA.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that it will, but like it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a four hundred thousand view show every single week. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm baffled that that many, that six hundred thousand people

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<v Speaker 1>usually watch this show. I meantimes sometimes it's baffling to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It really, it really really is. But if some people

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<v Speaker 1>like it, that's they're bad. Cool. It's just it's not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is not easy to get through. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>even with good things like the Creeds and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Chompa and Strong. I mean, they're it's not like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have anything there, it's just how to utilize it.

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<v Speaker 1>The show has hit and missed for me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Vinny Vinnie got so mad last week he actually literally

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<v Speaker 1>took his headphones off and started banging his head on

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<v Speaker 1>the wood desk. I had to make it abundantly clear.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not book that because I was not worth

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<v Speaker 1>ct deal with this lawsuit in a few years. But

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<v Speaker 1>ain't that bad? I mean last week's show. Last week

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<v Speaker 1>show was pretty bad, but I was fine with this

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<v Speaker 1>week's show. There was an audience of people that grew

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<v Speaker 1>up with w w E and they want to watch

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<v Speaker 1>w w E. And bro, let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of you are listening on the chat right now.

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube is apparently back up. You guys watch wrestling all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world. You watch a w New Japan Stardom, Noah, whatever, progress,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever the whatever you watch, Bro, you watch all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of wrestling. So you watch n NEX Team You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this trash? Okay? But if you grew up

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<v Speaker 1>watching w w E and you made it, you made

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<v Speaker 1>it through the early nineties, God bless you, and you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the attitude era and then you know it fell

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<v Speaker 1>off and you've kept watching and you've made it through

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<v Speaker 1>to today. N x T is a fine show. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>If that's your jam w w E style wrestling with

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<v Speaker 1>with colors and uh, you know, women that are still

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<v Speaker 1>in the diva's era and big muscle men. You know

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is right up your alley. So I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like it half the time, but I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why people watch this thing. You're getting what

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<v Speaker 1>you what you're expecting. That's what you get with n

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<v Speaker 1>x T two. Boy, I was a w W E fan,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much what you're expecting. So there you go. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait till review it next week. My DVR doesn't, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, again, this is it. Maybe it's an

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<v Speaker 1>ex affinity thing. I'll be interested to see what the

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<v Speaker 1>DVR numbers are going to be for all, because I

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<v Speaker 1>had to manually set that that did not automatically change over.

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<v Speaker 1>But every time they've done something with n x T,

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<v Speaker 1>my DVR picks it up. So I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>why that was the case. But I'll say this too

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<v Speaker 1>about the no I definitely have sci fi. Believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because that recorded just fine last night for n

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<v Speaker 1>x D but RAW didn't automatically switch over. But the

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<v Speaker 1>gimmick of starting the show without any commercials probably was

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<v Speaker 1>a big benefit as well too. You know, I do,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you didn't like it. It didn't bother me

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Like I said, it didn't bother me until

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<v Speaker 1>the second hour. Really is where the first hour may

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<v Speaker 1>have taken a toll because I liked a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff that was on there. But it was probably

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<v Speaker 1>very valuable for them to do that for all those

0:23:40.800 --> 0:23:43.600
<v Speaker 1>people who do just they don't use the guide. It's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing what they have literally at their fingertips, and they

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<v Speaker 1>will still go up and down on the remote until

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<v Speaker 1>they find something that they like, or they'll find whatever

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<v Speaker 1>it is that they're looking for. So I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>really wasn't benefit to have that thing on there, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with how poorly it opens well and then looking floor

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<v Speaker 1>is this break back in a moment I've never live

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<v Speaker 1>writing the show. Bran Over is here Wrestling Observer Live

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<v Speaker 1>mixumb for VIV Also Wrestling Observer dot Com, Sports Byline, Twitch, YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>American Forces Network, tune in radio available the more folks

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<v Speaker 1>than the eighteen anyway. Alright, so let's let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this dynamite show and listen, blokes. Yeah, I miss something

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<v Speaker 1>here and there, But I do a show with Vinnie

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<v Speaker 1>every Thursday night and we spend ninety minutes talking about

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<v Speaker 1>these two shows. So I'll get to it, bros. But

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<v Speaker 1>we opened up with um, I don't want to call

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>it a ross segment, but it's what Row does. M

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 1>JF came out with his whole crew and the usual,

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, no respect for Wardlow. Fans are chanting for Wardlow.

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<v Speaker 1>He's bragging, of course that he beats the and Punk

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<v Speaker 1>twice in Chicago, and of course him Punk comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants a match, and long story short, MGF says, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do a match tonight. It will be you

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<v Speaker 1>and a partner of your choosing who cannot be Sting

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<v Speaker 1>or Darby Ellen. And if you and your partner can

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>beat f TR, you can have a rematch with me

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<v Speaker 1>any time, any place, And they set it up for

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<v Speaker 1>later in the show, which may have been the first

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<v Speaker 1>time ever that they did an opening segment to set

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<v Speaker 1>up a match on the same show. And as Mike noted,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a this is a w w E trope.

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<v Speaker 1>But doing something rarely, Oh, there's very few things that

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<v Speaker 1>if you do it rarely, aren't fine. The issue is

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<v Speaker 1>when you do them all the time. So I thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was a fun segment. I thought that it led

0:25:50.840 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>to a fun match. I had no problem with him

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>Androd A Sting and Darby have their meeting. He can't

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>get this little kid a little kid. RB notes that

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>he wants the T and T title, but so does

0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>androw Day. Dave seems to think this is a build

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 1>to them just both being in the ladder match. I

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like they've been building this up for like four

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>or five weeks. There has to be a singles match coming.

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong, but that's what I'm getting out

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>of this. Warlow beat the Blade for reasons unknown. They

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>put in time. The only thing the fans want to

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 1>see from Wardlow right now is the symphony and him

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>selling for the Blade through a commercial break. I mean this,

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>this crowd was dead until he hit that first power bomb.

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Any power bombing four times was the superstar and pinned

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>him and one and that was the end of that.

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:43.120
<v Speaker 1>We have the Inner Circle team meeting and there are

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>issues with Santana and Ortiz. They're upset with Jericho. They

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>want to go off on their own. They get bantering

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:54.160
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, and Uh, Sammy's all upset that nobody

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>can get along, and so he throws down his jacket

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>and says, if you guys can't get your stuff together,

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm out of here, and he walks out, and then

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:05.199
<v Speaker 1>they set up. Next week it is Santana and Ortiz

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:09.239
<v Speaker 1>against Jericho and Jake Hagar. They're gonna settle this with

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 1>their fists. So it looks like the Inner Circle. After

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 1>like three years, it appears to be setting up to

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>this band. We had the debut of switch Blade j

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:26.400
<v Speaker 1>White Uh. They set up the Rapunky Vice versus Young

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.639
<v Speaker 1>Bucks match. It was scheduled for several weeks ago, but

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:32.359
<v Speaker 1>was postponed because Rocky Romeo got COVID. He's ready to

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>go there doing the match on Friday on Rampage, and

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 1>switch Blade is going to be there at his noted.

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>This was like a last minute thing that they came

0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.919
<v Speaker 1>up with on Sunday. So hopefully he has matches. Hopefully

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>they do something with him, but I'm not sure to

0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the extent or to what extent he's gonna be doing

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>anything in UH. In a w It's All Over Impact Show,

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Keith Lee beat Isaiah Cassidy. We talked about this match.

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>It was awesome and they killed both guys afterwards, and

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 1>just I mean, this was one of those deals where

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Tony CON's. You know, he's talking about how when he

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 1>was a kid. For some of you older guys who

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>want to feel even older, when he was a kid,

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>him and all of his friends at school, we're trying

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to figure out who the higher power was going to be,

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and they were so disappointed when it turned out to

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 1>be Vince. He didn't want people disappointed. And I don't

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>know about the viewing audience, but at home, nobody was

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>disappointed by Keith Lee showing up and killing Isaiah Cassidy,

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 1>Punk's partner at being John Moxley. They beat FTR. I

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>thought this match was great. FTR is a great team.

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 1>They got heat on Punk, they got heat on Moxley.

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean they did such a good job with near falls.

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I thought they were gonna beat cee him Punk a

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>second week in a row to keep him away from

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>him JF for a while, but they didn't and see him.

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Punk hid the GTS and got the pin. So he

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>gets to pick the match anytime anywhere at the Revolution

0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>pay per view to face m JF, Jade Cargill and

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>a q A. Holy Smokes not good at all. It's

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>former Zeta Raymer from n x T trained by book

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>or t I don't know what happened here, but it

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 1>was bad. Jade was like, you know, it takes a

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>while to be able to maintain your composure when things

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>go wrong. She's only had twenty six matches. She could

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>not maintain her composer. She was so mad during this match,

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and when the match was over, it's one of those

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>deals where she wins and she's just like angry, which

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you know in real life she's beat this one was

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.440
<v Speaker 1>she angry about? Well, she's angry because the ref was

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>called spots and the match still went awry. We had

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the five minute Rookie Challenge Serena Deep and Katie r Quette.

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 1>It was just quick. Serena beat her. I think everyone

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 1>can probably see where this is going. Rampage Friday, No spoilers,

0:29:56.200 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Young Bucks, no spoilers, Young Bucks versus any Vice, Hook

0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>versus Blake Lee, Britt Baker versus Robin, Renegade and Jungle

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>Boy and Luca Sourus against the Gun Club for the

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 1>tag titles. But I won't spoil it for anybody. Tune

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 1>in Friday Night by the Renegade. By the way, I

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>know people think I'm like making fun of all of this,

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't mind at all that I

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 1>know who's gonna win every match in a w of

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 1>the time. It doesn't bother me. In fact, I like

0:30:42.560 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it because that means it makes sense. But I know

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>some people they don't want their spoilers, so I won't

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>spoil the show. And finally, I thought this match was great.

0:30:54.520 --> 0:30:57.480
<v Speaker 1>Hangman Page and Lance Archer in a Texas death match.

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>If blood ain't your thing, you don't go watch n

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>x T two point Oh. These two blokes, I mean,

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>they got thrown through glass, they got busted open, they're

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>bleeding everywhere. They're using all of the gimmicks, and uh,

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean the story of the match was so simple.

0:31:14.080 --> 0:31:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Outcomes uh Jake the Snake Roberts and uh, why do

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I Dan Lambert? I don't know. But anyway, he comes

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>out and he takes off the top rope because Hangman's

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:31.960
<v Speaker 1>finish is the buckshot. You must use the top rope

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to spring in unless you're like mess Guerita Sagrada, so

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the top rope is unscrewed. They just beat the stuffing

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 1>out of each other. They pound on each other, they

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and it was not boring. Some Texas death matches because

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:48.959
<v Speaker 1>of the slow count can be boring, but like this

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>ref was doing a normal ten count, so I was

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>never bored during this match. And finally at the end,

0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the referee ends up bent forward, Hangman does the springboard

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>over the back of the referee, hits the buckshot. They

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>both tumble over the middle rope because there's no top rope,

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>and they crashed through two tables outside. These fans went

0:32:09.920 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 1>nuts for this spot and it was awesome and Hangman

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>gets to his feet. He's the winner. He didn't look weak,

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.800
<v Speaker 1>he looked like a champion. The place goes crazy for

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the guy. And then they had Adam Cole come out

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>and and issued the challenge for the championship match, which

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>begs the question why he lost to Orange Cassie. That's

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>another man entirely. I thought the match is great. I

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>thought the finish was awesome. I thought both guys look good.

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, Lance Archer lost, but he looked like a monster.

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>He looked like a murder hawk monster. Hangman beat him

0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>because he's the champ, but it was a tough road

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>to hoe. I loved it. Great show. Yeah, from top

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to bottom, it was a great show and I don't

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.239
<v Speaker 1>know if there's you know what you want to touch on.

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, coming away from it, you know there lots

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>of different things. You know, who's Serena, Deeve, who's gonna

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 1>be that person comes in? Is this a good time

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:06.120
<v Speaker 1>to bring would that be Athena? Keeps saying Athena. So

0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to help you all out. It's Ember Moon

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is when Dave and Mike are talking about Athena, That's

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about. It's just helping out here. Wow,

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>you really helped out. Thanks a lot for that. Well,

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you know I did hear all day yesterday when when

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Dave did observe a radio and kept mentioning Athena but

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>never said to Athena was, And so I got flooded

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>with people saying, can you tell us who Athena is

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 1>next time? Well, now I'm telling you Ember Moon, the

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>former member Moon Athena. So who it is? It's not

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 1>say to Amer, it's not Orange Cassidy either. You just

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>want to go ahead and tackle that now, and I'm

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.479
<v Speaker 1>over it. I just don't get it, Like, why couldn't

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>you wait to do that match where you beat Orange Cassidy.

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>He's challenging for the title in three weeks. He was undefeated,

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>he'd never been beaten. I don't care what the record says.

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw him lou loos in front of my own

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>two eyes, even on the show afterwards. The crazy part

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 1>there for me was you could have did the exact

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>same ending, but it's actually because they're both crashing down

0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 1>into unconsciousness that Adam Cole wasn't the one that actually

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>would have his arm over Orange Cassidy, and you know,

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Orange would have lost nothing. You know, people would have

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.360
<v Speaker 1>saw he was the one that actually caused was going

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>through this to cause Adam Cole the harm. And it

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>just so happened that the way they flopped, Cole was

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the one who got the cheap victory. And I yeah,

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that's not the end of the world.

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, people are making a big deal out of it,

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>making a big football out of it, and wanting to

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>to fight over it. It's really not that big of

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>a deal. But when you do have Cold going for it,

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:55.719
<v Speaker 1>when he is undefeated, it doesn't make much sense. Go ahead,

0:34:56.440 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>what's up? They wanted me to check my heart rate?

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh ahead? No? That was that was it? That was it. Yeah,

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>they could have done that, or they could have not

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.399
<v Speaker 1>done the match when they did it, or they could

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>have just flabbergasted. But what's done is done. Now they

0:35:13.920 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 1>do everything they can to build up atom Cole for

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:20.800
<v Speaker 1>three weeks. It's great promo. I love Adam Cole. I

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>just don't get it. It's okay to not get something

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>in a W. Everybody. It's okay to be critical of

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the product every now and then. All I hear is

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:31.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm paid by a W. And then I do a criticism,

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>and then I really get it. I can't win for losing,

0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>not every now and then. When they when you feel

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>as though they deserve to be criticized, you don't have

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.760
<v Speaker 1>to parse it out and go, well, I haven't criticized

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>them in a while, now it's really time to jump

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>on him. No, it's it's you know, people are gonna

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 1>be the way they are about their things so that

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it is what it is. And no, I'm not running

0:35:55.360 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>for Congress. I when people disagree with me and then

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>they come up with like this, the stupidest argument. This

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.919
<v Speaker 1>person goes, Britt lost to Rosa in the lights out match,

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and how did that work out? What? How does that

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>have anything? Was Britt challenging for the title four weeks

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.719
<v Speaker 1>after that match with thunder Rosa. No, she was the champion,

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna use all of that to build up

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a match with Britt Baker and thunder Rosa at this

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>next pay per view. That's what they're going to do. Now,

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>what would I have added thunder Rosa beat her in

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>an unsanctioned match and then not do anything with her

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 1>for a year? Well, no, I wouldn't have. But that's

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a completely totally different argument and a completely totally different scenario.

0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 1>They just they My point is this, everybody, they do

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 1>such a good job protecting people and making them into stars. Okay,

0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.439
<v Speaker 1>they almost never do a job, and when the big

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.959
<v Speaker 1>stars do a job, there's a point to them doing

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that job. In this case, I don't understand in the

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>point of Adam Cole losing to Orange Cassidy. If Adam

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Cole lost to Orange Cassidy and Orange Cassidy is now

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:10.240
<v Speaker 1>going to be challenging for the TNT title the next week, fine,

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.759
<v Speaker 1>you gotta win over Adam Cole and now he's he

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.919
<v Speaker 1>vanished after beating at It. I haven't seen the guy

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>since he beat Adam Cole. Meanwhile the loser, Adam Cole

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 1>is now the it's in contention for a title four

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>weeks later. I don't get it. I don't. If you're

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>fine with it, fine, I don't get it. No, to me,

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you did not have to put a happy face at

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the end of that story between them and best friends,

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.320
<v Speaker 1>if that's what it was, which obviously was because Cole's

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>onto something else. To me, didn't that wasn't the send

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.839
<v Speaker 1>the home fans home happy thing. I think they were

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 1>already been happy. And again Cole getting that cheap thing

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>and going on to get that victory. To me, pro

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>wrestling wise, that's the way I would have booked it,

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and it makes more sense that way, although again I

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know what is Cole win the title all of

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>a sudden from Adam Page and now Orange Cassidy gets

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 1>a shot. You know again, what do you do of it?

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 1>But go to a break Observer Live. It's only a

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>small number of nerds, but incredibly, the Twitch chat was

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:15.080
<v Speaker 1>just dumber during that break than the YouTube chat. So

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube you get the prize. Today, you get the gold ring.

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<v Speaker 1>I love when I can make it shine like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why it's been out of focus. It's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on my ring. I think that's the problem. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Britt Breaker lost to thunder Rose and then became Women's

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<v Speaker 1>champions shortly thereafter. Okay, yes, she lost won the title

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<v Speaker 1>two months later to set up a future feud with

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<v Speaker 1>someone who had beaten her in and sanction match is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be taking place in three months. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that Adam Cole is going to win the title

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<v Speaker 1>from Hangman and then feud with Orange Cassidy, Because that

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're talking about here, that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>actual scenario that would relate to this Britt Baker thunder

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<v Speaker 1>Rose a thing. I don't think that's happening again, it didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It just I just it's not even being critical, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's a it's a difference of opinion. And I

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<v Speaker 1>am still a little bit more old school. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>when you have somebody going after that championship, why present

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<v Speaker 1>a banana peal if that person that is beating them

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to get a first crack at that

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<v Speaker 1>title or be in that first mix for that title

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<v Speaker 1>for that person. And it comes down to I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe I him Cole's winning. So again, I could be

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<v Speaker 1>dead wrong. Maybe he beats Hangman and he goes in

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<v Speaker 1>defensive against Arnge Cassidy, But to me, that's the only

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<v Speaker 1>way that really would have worked. Again, he didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>a big smiley face to end that for you do.

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<v Speaker 1>He needed to me Adam Cole to go out on top.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, looks like dynamite last night A one point

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<v Speaker 1>one two nine million viewers and a point four one

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen forty nine. That number crushing the raw show

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<v Speaker 1>on Sci Fi. But we expected that, so I'll figure

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<v Speaker 1>these out. Get him a on my Twitter at Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarez Here in the moment, I'm gonna thank everybody for

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<v Speaker 1>listening here today tonight A night Pacific, midnight Eastern Vite

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<v Speaker 1>and I a w n x T check it out. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike has always callers and listeners, YouTube, Top Tier and

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