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Speaker 2: No, I just feel like this time of year, they're

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Speaker 2: like actually trying, Like teams are actually playing defense, you know,

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Speaker 2: and like stars a shine rider in the playoffs, Like

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Speaker 2: yeah for sure, for sure?

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Speaker 1: Who do you have winning at all?

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Speaker 3: Okay? See bold they Katie's not there anymore?

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay that's what I thought, Sga. No, he was

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Speaker 1: great in college. Yeah, for sure for sure.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I've been hammering like Lakers money line, just well,

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Speaker 2: you can't count Lebron this time of year, you know,

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Speaker 2: Like but they lost.

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Speaker 1: To who Denver? Who do they have?

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Speaker 3: Nick Nicole? Is he a rookie?

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Swimmer and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast

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Speaker 4: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, May fourteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I'm J. E.

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Speaker 4: Skeats here in the Classic Factory and alongside me as always, tas.

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Speaker 1: Mellis real basketball lovers, this one's for you.

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Speaker 4: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, Natasha Hot Boy,

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Speaker 4: Trey Kirby, Hey, hey yo, and over Yonder making the

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Speaker 4: magic happen.

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Speaker 3: Super producer jd Hella. There he is.

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Speaker 4: We had a special guest though with us in the factory,

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Speaker 4: He's been on a whirlwind tour. He's already met celebrities

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Speaker 4: like Mariah Carey, Bad Bunny, Vin Diesel, Trey Kirby Hey,

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Speaker 4: among others. He's forever a champion. And yeah, he's in studio.

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Speaker 4: It's mister Larry O'Brien, Larry, welcome to the show. Wow,

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Speaker 4: he's got his own camera shots. It was good.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's great.

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Speaker 4: We hadn't seen Larry in person and like almost a

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Speaker 4: decade now did we see him in twenty fifteen before

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Speaker 4: the makeover.

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Speaker 3: It was definitely a pre makeover and before we switched studios.

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Speaker 3: So either fourteen or fifteen. Yeah, fifteen thougheah, way.

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Speaker 1: Back, yeah, a couple of years ago. The discs make

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Speaker 1: it look so different, going from square to circles on

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Speaker 1: the bottom, with every single champion on there now as

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Speaker 1: they engraved them on there every single year. Obviously we've

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Speaker 1: all taken photos of our favorite teams already.

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Speaker 3: You guys had one to choose from. Oh how dare you?

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Speaker 3: How dare you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Looks good, nice nice zoom in there on the rings.

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Speaker 4: A pleasure to have Larry with us here in the

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Speaker 4: Jady's having some fun sexy Larry Ryan shots. Well, look,

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Speaker 4: we got lots to talk about. Larry's gonna kick it

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Speaker 4: with us for the entire show. Before we did we

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Speaker 4: get into the game recaps. We had weggie number sixty

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Speaker 4: two last night, and fortunate for us, we had the

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Speaker 4: legend iron Eagle on the call, take it away.

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Speaker 1: Dotch it.

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Speaker 3: Popstick, fake corner.

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Speaker 4: Bird bringing it in the second round. That man loves

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Speaker 4: a wedgie just as much as us number sixty two,

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Speaker 4: which of course is the all time record. Every weggie

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Speaker 1: An Eagle really does love. There was another time, another

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Speaker 1: point in the game where Jalen Williams lefty layup, it

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Speaker 1: almost went in, and his quote was, James James Williams shot,

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Speaker 1: PJ. Washington was really smiling after that Weggie. That was

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Speaker 4: Sixty two on the season. Shout out to Bird for

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Speaker 4: incredible call. I hope he gets another one or two

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Speaker 4: throughout the postseason. Here. Let's get into that game though,

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Speaker 4: because wow, what a series we have here SGA scoring

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Speaker 4: series at two games apiece. Are we starting with Shake

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Speaker 4: He scored on Kyrie that one behind the backboard, on

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Speaker 4: They don't win this game with shake Guilder, Without shake Gilders,

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Speaker 3: Shout out to my friend here in our cold open.

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Speaker 3: The stars shine brighter in the playoffs, and okay, See's

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Speaker 3: stars were better in the fourth quarter than Dallas's was.

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Speaker 3: Between Shay and Jalen Williams, don't call me Jason Williams.

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Speaker 3: Washington got him to the fourth quarter. That's when of

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Speaker 3: that's been a problem for the MAVs in this series.

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Speaker 3: More turnovers than made shots for Luca in this game.

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Speaker 3: And then you got Shay just knocking down mid range

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Speaker 3: ESPN for that one. Also the most mid range shot

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Speaker 3: It was boxes and elbows all night for the Mavericks,

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Speaker 3: just waiting there helping off Giddy, helping off Dort helping

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Speaker 3: he went seven of twenty seven from three, six of

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Speaker 3: Washington had a mismatch, easy hook shot, bricked it off.

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Speaker 3: Alexander pass. Instead, it turned into a chet Holmgrend three pointer.

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Speaker 3: Dallas just didn't play well enough. From a star's perspective

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Speaker 4: Yeah, twelve of twenty three at the free throw line

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you liked those classic headlines, did this team

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Speaker 1: it's a real You could say easily that the MAVs

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Speaker 1: hitting shootings twenty five percent from three seven of twenty seven,

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Speaker 1: They literally they gave this game away. The Luca wasn't

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Speaker 4: those timely threes in that big play where Jillen Williams,

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Speaker 4: pretty amazing they pulled this out. You know, the youngest

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Speaker 1: It was a different game just to see a young

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Speaker 1: Defense was great. We just saw so many of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in this one franchise playoff record thirteen blocks. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there was a stretch where it felt like jail and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that at all.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he really wanted to do it at all. Almost,

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Speaker 4: let's you're basically like, hey, you're pretty quiet, and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'll do a little almost like a little yelp. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You're not Nick Galla.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: That's what it read to me, yeacause we don't usually

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 1: He was done with it, and I think they're all

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Speaker 4: I mean, they created this monster, didn't they.

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Speaker 1: At some point during the broadcast, the MAVs were kind

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought up even Grant Hill, who is

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Speaker 4: of he's always talking the official. When you've got Grant

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even when he scores, he does it. That's the

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Speaker 4: It's like he's like trying for more extra or PJ.

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Speaker 1: Washington hit a bucket. But because Luca didn't like to

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Speaker 1: rather than the success of the team. That's what they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bad bad luo Game six or twenty from the

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Speaker 4: field two and nine deep. You said the seven turnovers

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Speaker 4: and then Kyrie had another single digit scoring game with

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Speaker 4: the club situations, to come through. In Game three, SGA

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Speaker 4: he was elite in this one, and the Mavericks stars

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Speaker 3: They scored twenty seven points. Yeah, that's a half for

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Speaker 3: I think from Kyrie Irving. I think Luca will be

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Speaker 3: looking for his offense. The last time he would look

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Speaker 3: game five. But Kyrie has been playing point guard mode distributor. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he's always kicking it out. It looks great until

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Speaker 3: you need him to score. Honestly, the Mavericks need twenty

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Speaker 3: They can pile up assist with Luca getting kickouts. They

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Speaker 3: Washington has done a great job twenty points through three quarters,

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Speaker 3: He's doing great, he's playing great defense. Cason Wallace is

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Speaker 3: making it tough for him. But this guy can score

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Speaker 4: Random notes from this game. I laughed out loud when

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Speaker 4: Sga went tumbling into the baseline first row and Tyrese

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Speaker 4: Maxey was very excited to see him now trying to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's there a lot.

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Speaker 4: So she has stayed committed to the Noggin Boss Gigantic hat.

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Speaker 3: They're just part of NBA culture now. They're at every

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Speaker 3: And I did see three point hand guy as well,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you have a Noggin Boss hat right

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Speaker 4: Because I think if Tray Kirby's wearing the Noggin Boss

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Speaker 3: But I don't think so. But what's the difference sitting down?

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Speaker 3: I mean two extra inches? Who cares? Come on, I

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Speaker 3: think I think it would be worse if you see

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a great view of this game. Then

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Speaker 3: they put on their hat.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well yeah, se roll up.

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Speaker 3: You're like, oh well, I'm not gonna see anything period.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's different.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was assuming she was wearing the nog and boss

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Speaker 3: But you say the high hold it out, put it

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Speaker 1: You can see it every broadcast. There's a big hat

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Speaker 4: Any other notes on this game or this series, which obviously, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: second rounds all about pivotal game fives.

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Speaker 3: We got two tonight. We'll got a.

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Speaker 4: Pivotal game five in this series. But anything else from

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Speaker 1: A couple of things. No Gordon Hayward in this game

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Speaker 1: It is pretty incredible that. Okay, so he traded three

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Speaker 1: without playing Gordon Hayward. That's a lot of players that

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Speaker 1: they play and they were able to overcome it. Good

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Speaker 1: move by Mark Yep, Dang, that's for sure a little

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Speaker 1: Kenny hustle we saw instead instead. Yes, Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of players coming off the bench. And one thing

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Speaker 1: two games in a row, basically three games in row

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Speaker 1: Captain Corner was the nickname that came out of Iron Eagle.

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Speaker 1: And I know you like to call him the Chevy

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Speaker 1: better now, he's way better, saying he's better than a

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Speaker 1: Chevy Tracks. Yeah. Number one, he's better than a regular

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Speaker 1: Chevy Tracks because every Chevy Tracks is regular. But number two,

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Speaker 1: he's just been better. Wow, Wow, he's been better.

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Speaker 3: What about the touring edition well, updated trims, Well that's

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Speaker 3: what I want to I don't have that, so I

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Speaker 3: can't speak to the V eight D. What doubt they

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Speaker 3: do this for the Chevy Tracks. Maybe he's Alumina a

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Speaker 3: touring edition.

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Speaker 1: I mean there needs to be some sort of improvement. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe because Kia sponsors the NBA. Maybe there's a Kia

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Speaker 3: Like the EV six.

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Speaker 1: He's electric, he works, but Captain Corner is not bad.

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Speaker 4: He's been incredible though. He did start to go cold

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Speaker 4: unfortunately at the wrong time in this game, but that's

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Speaker 4: also part of Okayse's game plan, right, It's like, well, Okay,

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Speaker 4: has to. Eventually my Chevy tracks runs out of gas. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't go for it's not electric guy, I can't

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Speaker 4: he's done more than you can ask for in this series.

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Speaker 4: Now it's up to Luca and Kyrie here in the

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Speaker 4: if they can do one thing.

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Speaker 3: To watch with Luca, and.

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Speaker 4: He's been doing this all series long. I would just

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Speaker 4: moves off it. Dort fights of course around it or

433
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,000
Speaker 4: through it or under.

434
00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 3: It to get back.

435
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,400
Speaker 4: Luca waits for him.

436
00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 3: He watch it.

437
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 4: He like looks back all the time. Now he's looking

438
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,679
Speaker 4: back because he's probably like, well, where is he? You know,

439
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 4: how fast is he coming? Is he right there? I

440
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,160
Speaker 4: just like to see him go a little bit more.

441
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,320
Speaker 4: The shots are there. He could just go around the

442
00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 4: pick and take the shot. Now, that's not really his

443
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 4: type of shot. I get it, he's not sga like that,

444
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 4: but it's there. So he just waits. He literally just

445
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,199
Speaker 4: allows Dort to come on back and then and then

446
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 4: almost like, well, now maybe I can try and draw

447
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 4: the contact here. It's like he's trying to make every

448
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,919
Speaker 4: shot in N one he is. Yeah, it's like, just

449
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,359
Speaker 4: maybe go for the easy two here. Just take that jumper.

450
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 4: You can knock it down. We know you can. So

451
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 4: maybe he'll maybe that'll be a tweak or something to

452
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,959
Speaker 4: watch here. But man, what a series. It's crazy battle.

453
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 4: It is a fight.

454
00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 1: Dallas could have put a okay see away for sure, pretty.

455
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 3: Much for sure.

456
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 4: If it was three to one, I can't imagine a

457
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 4: lot of people would have been like, yeah, that's what

458
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,199
Speaker 4: I got three straight in them. It would have been

459
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,400
Speaker 4: tough to talk yourself into it the way Dallas has

460
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 4: played for most of the series. But yeah, anything else

461
00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 4: TK Josh Gutty part of a key run in the

462
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 4: third quarter.

463
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 3: It was nine to two run. If I'm not mistake anyone,

464
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 3: he finished at plus five.

465
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:33,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, something like that.

466
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 3: Yah, plus six. Okay, keep bringing them off the bench.

467
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's fine. You don't have to play ten guys.

468
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 3: You do not have to play like Kenrich Williams. Thanks

469
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 3: for coming, Boddy, right right. Aaron Wiggins kind of looking

470
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,479
Speaker 3: like a Josh Giddy out there the way they're gardening.

471
00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 3: But at least he can bring something defensively, so there

472
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 3: are still moves I think for Dayton Alt to make here.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ginty fights defensively, but yes, he is more of

474
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 1: a guy that would be ideal being the ball handler

475
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: as a second unit guy because they have other ones

476
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: that can do it with the first year, there's no doubt.

477
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: But you know, he is fighting, and I'm sure they're

478
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: looking at a different lineup for next season. But yeah,

479
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Wiggins didn't have an awesome game. So all the

480
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 1: guys who come off the bench, they literally played thirteen, ten, eighteen,

481
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: fifteen and eight just minimal guys just come in and

482
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Speaker 1: do the job. Along with Giddy, who played twelve as

483
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: a starter, well, you got four stars playing forty minutes

484
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: and then your other six are just minimal guys just

485
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Speaker 1: to get it done. And they did. Goudos to Dagna.

486
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: Oh one other thing, I didn't notice everything. Every time

487
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 1: Mark Dagnell is talking to his players, he always says,

488
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: you got it, or at the end of it, did

489
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: you notice that? Like basically basically, so.

490
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 4: He gives them some like tip or something or a

491
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 4: game plan.

492
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 1: We got it, he says. He says, we got it.

493
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 1: The secondary drives are good, but the initial penetrations guy

494
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: would be better. We got it, So he does. It's

495
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: like talking to a child. It's good, It's good. That's

496
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: a good tip for me. Get him, get him thinking,

497
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: get him thinking. It's an interesting watch.

498
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: That for game five.

499
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 3: Alright, got it, Let's go to the other game.

500
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said Jason, not Jason. We got it.

501
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 4: Tatum's thirty three points helped the Celtics down the shorthanded

502
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 4: Calves one to nine, one O two in Game four.

503
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 4: So this is our one series in the second round

504
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 4: that is not two to two. Boston's up three to one.

505
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 4: And look what an hour or two before this game,

506
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 4: we learn Donovan Mitchell's not playing in Game four because

507
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,719
Speaker 4: of a calf injury that he sustained at the end

508
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 4: of Game three, and I was like, oh, well, that

509
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 4: sucks that all said. The Calves put up a fight.

510
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 4: They stuck around for a long time in this game,

511
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 4: but Boston gets a done. TK your thoughts, Yeah, Calves

512
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 4: played hard. They've been resilient all season. Their best stretch

513
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 4: of the year this year was when they were missing players,

514
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 4: so not a surprise that they would play well. And

515
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum mentioned post game they're gonna play with a

516
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 4: lot more freedom, a lot more opportunity. They definitely switched

517
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 4: up the game plan and said we're shooting as many

518
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: threes as we possibly can. Darius Garland mentioned that as well.

519
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 4: But I think this is just nice for the Celtics

520
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 4: to actually play a close game in the playoffs, come

521
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 4: through with a clutch win and getting big performances from

522
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.

523
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 3: Who were both really good. I thought, particularly in the

524
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 3: fourth quarter thirty three for Tatum, twenty seven for Brown.

525
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: They connected on that last play where Tatum basically like

526
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: Driveston kicks he finds Jalen Brown knocks down the three.

527
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 3: Jalen Brown is upset at two people after making the dagger.

528
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: He's mad at Tyler Ford for running into him on

529
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 3: the wing, and he's mad at Jason Tatum for slapping

530
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: him in the chest when he's trying to talk to

531
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 3: Tyler Ford. I thought that was a hilarious thing. But

532
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: you love to see that from your two stars showing

533
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 3: up in the biggest moment of the game. We know

534
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 3: the Cavs didn't have their guy and Donovan Mitchell to

535
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 3: maybe take them over the edge, but the Celtics did

536
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: a good job. Tatum in particular, getting downhill, making plays

537
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 3: when he got cut off, found Jalen Brown for the

538
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 3: easy three, simple basketball. But they executed down the stretch

539
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 3: and pulled off a good win. The first time they're

540
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: really testing, the first time they've actually had to do

541
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: something that matters in the fourth quarter. They came through.

542
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 4: Yeah. The first official clutch minutes of the postseason for

543
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 4: the bust Labors the second round.

544
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Game eight, here you go. Yeah, and Tatum yeah,

545
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: definitely was saying it's nice to play in one of those.

546
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: It is good for the Boston Celtics as they go

547
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: into the conference finals. Because that is going to happen.

548
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: And it's great to see the best Tatum game and

549
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: two games back to back now dropping thirty three. Because

550
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: at the beginning I thought it was a great game

551
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: for him where he was distributing. It wasn't just a

552
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: one on one. I'm good enough. He was getting into

553
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: the lane and making the pass. But then when he

554
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: knew he could take a guy, he could also do

555
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 1: that because he's that good. He tried to crown Tristan

556
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,919
Speaker 1: Thompson with King James in the building, it almost happened.

557
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's just getting hot at the right time.

558
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: If there's the right time here for the Boston Celtics

559
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: to get hot for several weeks, it would be this one.

560
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: Including Drew Holliday has also gotten hot at the right time.

561
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: Yep.

562
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: A great defense obviously, as he always does, like Darius

563
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: Garland get into the rim and he just devoured him.

564
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: He gobbled up a block and then he blocked Garland

565
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: in the corner. He looks so good and then on offense,

566
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: step back, three, hit another step back. He just looks good.

567
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: And as Tatum said after the game, that guy and

568
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: Derek White, there are anchors of our defense. That's why

569
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: they got them, and that's why they got Drew Holiday.

570
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 4: For these moments, Yeah, they're the anchors of their defense,

571
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 4: and then it seems like they just alternate on who's

572
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: going to have a good offensive game for them. There

573
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 4: was a stretch where Derek White couldn't miss a three pointer.

574
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 4: Now he's gone ice cold, but Drew Holiday over the

575
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 4: last two games and stepped up. The Celtics offensive formula

576
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 4: was very similar to what happened in Game three. It

577
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 4: was Tatum monster game or his best game in the postseason.

578
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: It was Jaalen Brown doing his thing, and then it

579
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 4: was Drew Holiday. This was another good Drew Holiday game.

580
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 4: Sixteen points, seven boards, five assists, three steals, a block,

581
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 4: He hit four threes. I saw a stat here. Including

582
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 4: the playoffs, the Celtics are twenty two to one when

583
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: Drew Holiday scores at least fifty points. So their next

584
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 4: unbeatable when this guy just contributing a little bit on

585
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: the offensive end. And that's now back to back games

586
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: where he's play played really well. And you're right about

587
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 4: the calves. After the Mitchell injury, it was like game

588
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: plan was like we just got a fire away from deep. Yeah,

589
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 4: and they did, and it worked for the first half.

590
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 4: I mean they hit like what eleven three pointers Struce

591
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: couldn't miss, and then in the second half things dried up.

592
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the Celtics focused a little bit more

593
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 4: on trying to take those away or make them a

594
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 4: little more difficult. I think they hit four three pointers

595
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 4: the Calves did over the final twenty four minutes, and

596
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 4: that was obviously enough for Boston to win. They hung

597
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 4: in there. It was like that cat poster. They were

598
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: hanging in there. But you know, I couldn't believe they

599
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: took They took a lead in the third quarter at

600
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 4: one point, it was sixty five to sixty four. It

601
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 4: was it was brief lead, but they had it. And

602
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 4: then what it was like a five point game at

603
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 4: one point in the fourth and I think Strews even

604
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 4: had a decent look at one on the wing that

605
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: probably would have, you know, blew the roof off that place,

606
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 4: but he missed that one, and then the Celtics sort

607
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 4: of coasted from there.

608
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Max Druce got more of a role and this

609
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: one hit five big threes. As at him said, we

610
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: knew that other guys were going to step up because

611
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: they got the freedom, you know, to play more, and

612
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 1: you finally saw why these guys sign Maxterres to that

613
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: big deal. He finally was just letting it rip. So

614
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: it was good to see him have one game. It

615
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: was disappointing to see donovand Mitchell not in the game,

616
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: not in the report. Obviously. I saw that on Sunday

617
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: that he was questionable. I just I clicked X on

618
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: that tap.

619
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 4: I didn't want to believe it's got to play.

620
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I sup exactly that he would play. But

621
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: it is well to see the Cavs just fight without him,

622
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: and it is well to see a basketball player with

623
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: a baseball hat of his team on the bench.

624
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 4: Didn't you think he was wearing a Calves baseball cap.

625
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: Baseball cap. Yeah, just you don't see that.

626
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 3: He's a big baseball guy. He's a big business that's true. Yeah,

627
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 3: dad works in the business.

628
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 4: He was rocketed.

629
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a sticker on it, so I don't

630
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: know if.

631
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: It was new or if he's just doing it to

632
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: look cool. Yeah, exactly, all a holographics sticker. I can't complain.

633
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good.

634
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 4: You mentioned Lebron there in attendance. Uh, sit sitting court

635
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 4: side with his wife and Paul and a bottle of wine.

636
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 4: I'm going to see it. Yeah, really nice.

637
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: I'm toffee tired by and a couple of bottles of water.

638
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 4: This guy very thirsty there. What'd you think of the

639
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 4: Jalen Brown Max Struce incident. I know, I say incident.

640
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 4: It was a bit of a nothing burger, but man,

641
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 4: did we look at it forever on the broadcast. It

642
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: was the one where Jaylen Brown hit a jumper.

643
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

644
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 4: He falls to the ground and Streuce sort of falls

645
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 4: on top of him and sort of foots by his

646
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 4: head and then Gillens. Gillan's like, all right, that's enough,

647
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 4: get your foot out of here, and sort of like

648
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Speaker 4: I don't know, pushes him, pushes the foot, I guess,

649
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: and Streuce fell down.

650
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: Oh hold on, hold on, let's look at it. Oh

651
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: my god.

652
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: They ended up calling it just a common foul, which

653
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: was the right call if anything.

654
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: I just didn't even remember that. I didn't even remember,

655
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 3: so I do remember. Uh it was Streuce right. They

656
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: grabbed Jalen Brown's arm behind his back, and Jalen still

657
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: made like a little oh yeah, flippity flip shot. I

658
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 3: think that was right after the Caves had tied it too.

659
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: That was a pretty big shot. John Brown is good, man,

660
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: He's really good. We never talk about Jalen Brown. True,

661
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: and he's scoring twenty five a game in the playoffs,

662
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: shooting great percentages, comes through when they need him the most.

663
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I look it awesome.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought that up. I looked at it

665
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 4: the other day after Game three when he had that

666
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: really good game. I went to a Basketball reference I like,

667
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 4: did the whole career playoffs for Jalen Brown searched by

668
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: game score, right, which gives you a good idea of like,

669
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 4: was it an elite game? Two of Jalen Brown's greatest

670
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 4: basketball games in the postseason have come in this series,

671
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: Like two of his top ten is what I should say.

672
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: I don't know where this one falls. I forgot to check,

673
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 4: but yeah, he's been amazing for them, And you're right,

674
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: it just goes completely under the raidar the whole Celtics team,

675
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: like because of their matchups and who they're playing, some

676
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 4: of the injuries to the teams, like, and everybody just

677
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: like assumes they should be in the finals. So it's

678
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 4: like we're not, like really doing deep dives on them.

679
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: I think people were starting to go ooh uh oh

680
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: when it did get close in the fourth quarter and

681
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: it was like Boston sort of reverted a little bit

682
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 4: back to like ball watching and like one on one time,

683
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 4: which they do, and then they start I got out

684
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: of that funk a little bit. But you know, we'll

685
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: get more excited. I think as the postseason goes on

686
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: here with this team, like.

687
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Speaker 3: When in the finals, yeah, because it actually play a

688
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 3: real team.

689
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have a very nice path to the NBA

690
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: finals setup for rom It would be a huge disappointment

691
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: if they're not there.

692
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, yes, especially with what's happened to the Knicks.

693
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: If they get to the conference finals and they're also

694
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: beat up, yeah, I mean the team that's the healthiest

695
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: would be the Pacers, which they should beat.

696
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. Did you notice JB. Bickerstaff in his crossed arms. No,

697
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: I didn't pay attention. Oh my god, I'm telling you

698
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: a crossboy. I was tracking it for a while. Any

699
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: Iso bicker Staff shot. At one point, we were like

700
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,959
Speaker 4: six for eight on any time they went to an

701
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: Iso shot arms across. It puts the one up like

702
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: the Ticks, the one up like that. I guess like that,

703
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 4: that's amazing, man. And then he'll sometimes do something and

704
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: then it just goes right back. That's his comfy posts.

705
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: You think he's trying to give off like a tough

706
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: guy vibe or more like an unbothered vibe.

707
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: More I don't know what to do with my hands vibe.

708
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what he's supposed to do. Cross cross

709
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 4: them or pocket them, stand their arms.

710
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: That's a little weird style. Weird. Yeah, maybe you want

711
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 3: to hold something. Always doing stuff.

712
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: I'd want to hold like a little not a clipboard,

713
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: but like it won't tell Jerry Tartenian style fighting on it.

714
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: It's nice to hold something, yeah, like a pen, even

715
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: anything just clicking done TV for notes anyway, washed on

716
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: TV for so long. I still don't know what to

717
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: do with my hands in pictures. It's just like what

718
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: do you what do you do with them? I'm sure

719
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: he was doing it after the game when he complained

720
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: about free throws. Yeah, but uh, I didn't really see.

721
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: A big seven free throw attempts twenty four to seven. Yeah,

722
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: I know Garland was saying, I'm driving in there, I'm

723
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: getting hit all the time. Why I go into the

724
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: line more. Yeah, probably fair Garland did have a good.

725
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: Game, yeah, which I mean he did fight through it,

726
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: which is.

727
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: Like, on one hand, great, on the other hand, it's like, man,

728
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: why does this guy always have good games? And Donovan

729
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: Mitchell's now there. Oh yeah, he's got the ball in

730
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 4: his hands and he gets to a you know, be

731
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: more of a point guard and sort of an attacking

732
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: guard like that. But that's for the off season.

733
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: Anything else. Do you think Lebron wore a backwards hat?

734
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: Because JJ Reddick got called out for wearing a backwards

735
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: hat on the podcast.

736
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: Wow he called out? Is that this again? And the

737
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 4: idea is you can't take him seriously as a coach.

738
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: There's a backwards hat. I think if you're if.

739
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: You're wearing a backwards hat, you're not coaching in the NBA.

740
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: You're moving my couch.

741
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: He looks like that would move my couch for wearing a.

742
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 4: Backwards That's a good question though. Spin it into which

743
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 4: coach would be the best mover would you hire would

744
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: you trust the most to move your your possessions.

745
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: It's a great question. That is a really good playoffs question.

746
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: Darvin Ham would have been good, Yeah, good?

747
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: Who else. I was like, I was honestly thinking Chris Finch,

748
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: but I know he has an injury, but he got

749
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: him a sturdy yid of me.

750
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: Yeah before the injury.

751
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: Maybe Joe Misula, Joe Missoula would be like, I could

752
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 3: move all this myself.

753
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he would come up with a crazy way

754
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: you just help chuck it all out the window. Yeah,

755
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: he's like galaxy brain thinking way to move you.

756
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

757
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

758
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: The only other note I have is did you see

759
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 4: the free t shirts stay handed out last night? Before

760
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: Game four?

761
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 3: I sort of mailed this one ahead.

762
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 4: This was a pretty basic playoff shirt and it just

763
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: says Cleveland Cavaliers.

764
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Semifinals.

765
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 4: Wait sure, and there's like a tiny little playoff logo

766
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: worth every penny.

767
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Eastern Conference semi Finals.

768
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

769
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: Makes it sounds like you went deep. It does when

770
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 3: you call it the Conference semi does look like you

771
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: went quite far.

772
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: That's why they named it that.

773
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 3: Comic songs would.

774
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: Have been funny for the fun A nice tie back

775
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: to Cleveland. But okay, anything else else? Do you think

776
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: this is over? In Game five? You think Boston will

777
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: close the door on the series absolutely, whether or not

778
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: Mitchell plays Jared Allen.

779
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, they is not returning.

780
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: We have seen them scrap so it will be a series,

781
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: but or a game. Yeah, game, I mean it's been

782
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: a series. Everybody predicted five, and then many people who

783
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: picked at four just thought Boston was going to roll.

784
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: So Cleveland has earned a little respect.

785
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: You believe this is over?

786
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yes, but it is in Boston, so advantage Cleveland.

787
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 3: Yeah they're horrible. I hope, Yeah, they got a chance.

788
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 3: What's the record, that's fourteen in the past three seasons

789
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: at home during the playoffs. They haven't lost on the

790
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: road yet.

791
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're good on the road. All right, Let's get

792
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 4: to some news in the NBA world. Brandon Ingram could

793
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: be on the move this offseason. On Sunday, NBA insider

794
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 4: Mark Stein reported that there's a growing belief league wide

795
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: that the Pelicans will be aggressively to you Stein's where

796
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 4: they're exploring the trade market for Ingram before the start

797
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: of next season. Stein also reported that the seventy six Ers, Cavaliers, Hawks,

798
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: and Magic have shown some interest. Your thoughts TK on

799
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: on some Brandon Ingram trade rumors here.

800
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be traded. I think he

801
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: is absolutely going to be traded. Mark Stein also wrote

802
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: Ingram's exit is increasingly viewed by various league observers as

803
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: an inevitability rather than a possibility. His contract expires at

804
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: the end of next season. He's extension eligible heading into

805
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 3: this year for a big one two hundred million basically

806
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 3: in twenty seven years old. By the start of next

807
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: year on a thirty six million dollar contract, Brandon Ingram

808
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 3: is still good.

809
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

810
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: He does have a great rep right now because it

811
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: didn't go well in the playoffs for him against Lou

812
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: Dork coming back from a hyper extended knee. He got

813
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 3: right back in just for the playoffs and looked completely rattled.

814
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: But go look at his playoff series in twenty twenty two,

815
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 3: twenty seven to game six, rebounds, six assists, shot forty

816
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: eight percent from the floor and forty one from the

817
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: three point line. Brandon Ingram is still solid going into

818
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: the prime of his career. But the mix with him

819
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: and Zion Williamson isn't perfect, so it makes sense that

820
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: Ingram would be the guy to move, especially when you

821
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: look at the Pelicans roster. They got herb Jones and

822
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: Trey Murphy the third, who are both ready for big

823
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: roles as a wing. There so a little duplication with

824
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: Ingram and Zion being the main guys. I think that

825
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: the Pelicans will probably want to upgrade the Honis Valancuna

826
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 3: spot as well. He's a free agent now, so things

827
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: are changing in New Orleans and it makes sense that

828
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 3: Ingram would be kind of the first domino to fall

829
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 3: for them.

830
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, his only issue is being able to stay on

831
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: the floor, as we saw even going into the postseason

832
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: this year. But his numbers are incredible. I didn't think

833
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: that I'd be looking at trade machines at this time

834
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: of year. I just didn't think it. But but it's no,

835
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: It's totally true. When they got bounced, it just sure

836
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: feels like the guy who would be moved, and it

837
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: would make sense that he would be moved for a

838
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: center who can shoot the three ball to give Zion

839
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Williamson as much room as possible in the lane, So

840
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: him the seventy six ers rumor makes a lot of

841
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: sense to replace Tobias Harris as the air quotes number

842
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: three guy Brandon Ingram is phenomenal in that role, but

843
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: I don't really see what the Pelicans would want from

844
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: the seventy six ers rots to in return. I don't

845
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: really see it. The Magic would also make some.

846
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: Sense, right then do some scoring punch?

847
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, again for another center who can shoot the three.

848
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: So a Wendell Carter Jonathan Isaac pack works, which could

849
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: make sense for the Pelicans. I even went as deep

850
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: as the Bucks, who weren't mentioned in these rumors, but

851
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: a Brook Lopez for brandon Ingram, you know, along with

852
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: a Pat Conaton and a minor other contract does also

853
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: work in exchange for brandon Ingram. Yeah. I don't know

854
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: what the Bucks would how they would benefit from that

855
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: from the center spot, because then they would have no center.

856
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: To be honest, he could play center, he would have to.

857
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I don't know how much he would

858
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: love that, but anyway, tarned to be a center, it

859
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: would make sense.

860
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 4: How about the Atlanta Hawks as a possible brandon Ingram

861
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 4: trade team, where you know they maybe are trading one

862
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 4: of their obviously star guards for a star wing like

863
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 4: Brandon Income something like that.

864
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if brandon Ingram is planned

865
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 3: here come next season, because not only not only do

866
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: the Hawks have a guard to trade. I think it

867
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 3: would probably be Trey Young in this instance going to

868
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 3: play with Zion. That might be a nice match. But

869
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 3: you mentioned the centers and that the Pelicans are gonna

870
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: want a center with no valentiunas Capella or Congwu can

871
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: probably be had from the Hawks right now considering they

872
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: got the number one pick. So what you trade Trey

873
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: Young for Brandon Ingram, You send in Capella, you draft

874
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 3: Alex Sar. Suddenly your team is Dejonte Murray, Sar and

875
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: Brandon Ingram. That's a lot of length on the perimeter

876
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: and inside as well. You could sell that as an

877
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: exciting new team going forward. I wouldn't be surprised that

878
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: he's an Atlanta Hawk or something.

879
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: There are the rockets I'm gonna just to bring up

880
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: as well, only because they did go like big game hunting,

881
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 4: if you want to call it that around the trade deadline.

882
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 4: You know a lot of reports that they want to

883
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 4: m to kill Bridges. They wanted sort of that type

884
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: of wing. No, he's more of a defensive minded guy.

885
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: I get all that. More of a score.

886
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: But maybe with all of.

887
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 4: The talent they have and what they could put together

888
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 4: for a package the Pistons. I mean, they need all

889
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 4: the talent in the world. Would they to move you know,

890
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 4: Jade and Ivy was struggling to get on the floor

891
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 4: from Monnie Williams and they've got obviously Kate as their

892
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 4: point guard. Could there be something there, at least the

893
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 4: basis of a of a potential trade package. We'll be

894
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: firing up that trade machine, don't don't you?

895
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: Or the Colicans definitely have some issues. We saw CJ.

896
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: McCollum in the playoffs struggle big time. Yeah, so there's

897
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: that issue as well. It's building around Zion.

898
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: It's sort of refreshing to hear David Griffin, who's obviously

899
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: in control of that roster, to like basically say like, yeah,

900
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: that was we had a good regular season but disappointing playoff,

901
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 4: and we're not running it back. We're not doing the

902
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: same thing here. We're gonna make some switches. Obviously we

903
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 4: like a couple of our pieces, or a lot of

904
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 4: our pieces, but we can maybe make a better team.

905
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: Like that's the thing.

906
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: You can trade Brandon Ingram and get back players that

907
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: are maybe not as good as brand Ingham. Doesn't mean

908
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 4: they're gonna be bad. Though maybe they'll just fit better,

909
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: especially if it's like multiple guys or something like that.

910
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, Ingram's stock right now, it's low because he

911
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 4: was in the daughter chamber and he had a very

912
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 4: bad postseason fourteen fifteen points per game in that series.

913
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: Like, that's nothing for that guy.

914
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 4: In other news, according to Shams and James Edwards the Third,

915
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 4: the Detroit Pistons appear interested in hiring Minnesota Timberwolves head

916
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: executive Tim Connolly as president of basketball operations. He can

917
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 4: move himself, maybe Chris Finches to himself. Whether or not

918
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 4: Conley returns to the Wolves, league sources say he is

919
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 4: likely to opt out of the final year of his contract.

920
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 4: Seems likely that he'll return to Mini. But if Piston's

921
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 4: owner Tom Gores is willing to offer something like fifteen

922
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 4: million dollars annually, that could be enough to pry Tim

923
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 4: Connolly away from Minnesota.

924
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: Well, he's got longer than justice next year, right that

925
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: he could opt out of. He has signed a five

926
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: year deal two years ago for forty million dollars, so

927
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: he's got plenty of years left. But if he can

928
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: opt out period period of a contract, that is rare

929
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: for an executive president of basketball operations to have an

930
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: opt out year, and I think it is here in

931
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: the year three, and maybe it's he sees what Pistons

932
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: gave Monni Williams. They gave him the Godfather contract. Even

933
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: what he signed with the Timberwolves five for forty eight

934
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: per that's still a lot of money. Now, he signed

935
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: it with Mark Lori and Alex Rodriguez and Glenn Taylor,

936
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: and we all know what's happened there. He got their

937
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: approval from all of them, met all of them in

938
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: that and maybe he's not happy with the battleover who

939
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: was going to win the Minnesota Timberwolves' ownership because they

940
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: are still going at it. There's arbitration that's going to

941
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: happen this offseason. So maybe maybe he's not happy. But

942
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: that's that That is hilarious. That whole scenario is really

943
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: really interesting. I listened to the Public Platory podcast had

944
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: our man Zach Harper on to talk about the Timberwolves drama,

945
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: what is going on with their ownership, and apparently Glen

946
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: Taylor bought out my minority owner, Bill Sexton's two point

947
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: nine percent ownership, so that sprung him back into the

948
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: majority percentage. So now he runs things again just because

949
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: he did that over the last couple months when everyone

950
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: was worried about do they have just excuse me, a

951
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: Rod and uh and Laurie have enough money. But Glenn

952
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: Taylor made a nice move. Apparently it's like sort of under.

953
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: Here.

954
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: It's interesting. So there's lots of interesting stuff going on.

955
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: So the Pistons, this is a no brainer. Go get

956
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: this guy if you can throw all the money in

957
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: the world. If that's not an issue, it's whether or

958
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: not he's going to opt out or was he wants

959
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 4: to stay in Minnesota, move forward with that team and

960
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: their championship aspirations, or just like start over and do

961
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: it again in Detroit like he he's in the he

962
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 4: really can't lose in the series. Tim Connolly's in right now.

963
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: Either Minnesota beats the Denver Nuggets, Okay, awesome because you

964
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: put the team together, or the Denver Nuggets beat the

965
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: Minnesota Tible. You're like, yeah, I put that team together too.

966
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 4: That's my work as well, to some extent.

967
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 3: To some extent, just I mean, he didn't draft Anthony

968
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: Edwards or Karl Anthony Towns. Those guys are pretty good.

969
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: Right Yeah, he made the trade with the Wolves.

970
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah he did.

971
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: He did the nugget he deserves more for thannuggets.

972
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: And yes, that's for sure he drafted. That's pretty awesome,

973
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: but also the funniest possible guy that the Pistons could

974
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: target because they've been signing centers for two straight seasons

975
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 3: and they're like, hey, this guy loves centers. He's built

976
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 3: two teams around centers. Maybe it'll work for us. But honestly,

977
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: I think this is just a smart stuff from Tim

978
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 3: Connolly to have his name in the mix here, because

979
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 3: it's going to drive the price up for him to

980
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 3: stay with Minnesota, because I don't think he's going to

981
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: go to the Pistons. Why would you do that. You'll

982
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: go from a championship team to a championship contender to

983
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 3: the worst team in the league. Doesn't make sense to

984
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 3: me unless you want to get paid a ridiculous amount,

985
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 3: just like Tom Gores had to do with Monty Williams.

986
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: Monty Williams didn't want the Pistons job. He was on vacation.

987
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: They said, no, we'll pay you way too much money.

988
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: We'll break the record for the biggest contract for a

989
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 3: coach ever. Tom go.

990
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 4: Tom Gores is basically the million dollar man. Teddbasi. Everybody's

991
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 4: got a price that's right, and you can fire Troy

992
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 4: Weaver if it don't work here, We'll let you do that.

993
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: So the Pistons were denied permission to interview Milwaukee's John

994
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: Horst last week. Was within this article that said, as

995
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 4: they wrote, it's possible that the Bucks were posturing to

996
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 4: get assets from Detroit in order to take Horse, who

997
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: signed a multi year deal with Milwaukee in twenty twenty one.

998
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 4: It always blows my mind that he can like trade

999
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: assets for these guys for executives.

1000
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: Doc Riversus, Yeah, I know.

1001
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 4: I always like that surprises me. It's like, oh, yeah,

1002
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: you can do that. Interesting found piece of news. Bronnie James,

1003
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: the son of NBA superstar lebron is expected to stay

1004
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 4: in the twenty twenty four NBA Draft. I know he

1005
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: was at the combine there yesterday knocking down threes. Bronnie,

1006
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 4: who suffered a cardiac arrest last July before returning to

1007
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 4: the court for his freshman season at USC, has been

1008
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 4: fully cleared to play by the NBA's Fitness to Play panel,

1009
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: and again we'll participate in all these pre draft activities.

1010
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: So Bronnie sticking in the twenty twenty four drafts, which

1011
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 4: has a lot of people excited. You know, there's a

1012
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: lot of debate is this guy even worthy of a

1013
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: being a pick at all first round, let alone the

1014
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 4: second round, and then what that means of a team

1015
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: does select them, what it means for the possibility of

1016
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: Lebron joining up if at all your thoughts right.

1017
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: And that's why Lebron James and the timeliness of when

1018
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: he can decide to come back to the Lakers is

1019
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: very interesting because it's after the draft to see who

1020
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: would draft Brian James right, and see if Brian James

1021
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: enters the draft at all, because he could still say

1022
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in the draft, because he

1023
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: was going through this process now the combine and getting

1024
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: scouted and being told all the information that comes from

1025
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: NBA teams, you should go back and work on this

1026
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: or do this, and so we don't know if he's

1027
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: going to come out of it, but he sure looks

1028
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: good at the combine. Who's on fire eleven threes in

1029
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: a row, and he didn't shoot well from three point

1030
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,439
Speaker 1: land last year and is one year of college only

1031
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: twenty six percent, but that was coming off of a

1032
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: cardiac issue and that was no training camp, and so

1033
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: that was very different. He was a much better shooter

1034
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: in high school, according to our Sam Vassini, not that

1035
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: I know anything about it Brian James high school, but

1036
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: apparently he was much better. And I like the measurements.

1037
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: I like talking measurements from the combine. They look good.

1038
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: He was a lot shorter than he was listed at.

1039
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: So he's not six four, he's not. He was listed

1040
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: at six one and a half with no shoes at

1041
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: the combines. Right. Put on some shoes though. You can

1042
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: be six too, for sure, probably six to three.

1043
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, good enough size for a guard on the bench.

1044
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: Six seven wingspan, six to seven wingspan, great athlete, great vertical.

1045
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: Sounds like alexcruzo to me.

1046
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 4: There you go for indeed this guy exactly.

1047
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: No, you're not gonna be Lebron James senior, but you

1048
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 3: can be Lebron James junior.

1049
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. And in a draft where there ain't a lot

1050
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: of great people according to the draft the draft experts,

1051
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: it's not looking good right now. So this would be

1052
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: the draft to enter if it was for him and

1053
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: the Lakers.

1054
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: That's true.

1055
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: The Lakers have a number fifty five pick, you know,

1056
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: that's they don't have a first round pick, but they

1057
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: have the fifty five if he lasts that long. But

1058
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: it will be interesting.

1059
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: Any thoughts on Bron he's sticking in here, well, obviously

1060
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 4: he's got to get drafted.

1061
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: If he stays in the draft. He's pretty well connected

1062
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 3: in the NBA circle, so I think it means he

1063
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: knows he's getting drafted. And the question will just be

1064
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 3: if a team sides to reach for him because they

1065
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: actually think Lebron is a package deal here.

1066
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: But I don't know.

1067
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 3: If his name's not Lebron James Junior. And you see

1068
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 3: a guy that's six to two with a six to

1069
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: seven wingspan, who can play defense, who's a good athlete,

1070
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: that player gets drafted, Like, it's not a crazy to me.

1071
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because by all accounts, yeah, he's a really

1072
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: smart player and defensive minded and maybe the offense is

1073
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: a you know, a work in progress. That's a lot

1074
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 4: of these guys at this at this point. But yeah,

1075
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 4: it'll be just interesting if he's like I don't think

1076
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 4: he's going to be a lottery pick, but yeah, first

1077
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 4: round I don't see why one team wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a lot of these, like we forget that,

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Speaker 4: like not every pick taken in these you know, sixty

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00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 4: guys is like there and contributing right away. There's a

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Speaker 4: lot of names that you, unfortunately you don't even learn

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00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: because they're like never a part of the equation of these.

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Speaker 1: Teams, especially in a draft like.

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Speaker 4: This, right right, right right, So we'll see, we'll see.

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00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 4: We're not draft experts, but man, the shot look good

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00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: in the three point contest at the draft of combine,

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Speaker 4: which I I mean, I say some people, Sam Vassini

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00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 4: being one of them, who is obviously all over this stuff,

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00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 4: he's like, I don't even care about that, Like that

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00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: doesn't really mean a whole lot to me. Like these

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00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 4: are NBA players for the most part. They can all

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00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: hit like wide open threes and like in rhythm like that.

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00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 4: But it's obviously not not game like three pointers where

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00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 4: he did struggle. He did struggle.

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Speaker 1: There are some games today apparently that's how the combine

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00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: works five on five huh yeah, or it might be

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00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,760
Speaker 1: canceled that that's also how it might work. Oh but anyway,

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00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: maybe it's on the NBA app. Maybe people are well

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Speaker 1: check enjoying it.

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Speaker 4: We will check, all right before we go, let's get

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00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: to tweeted the.

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Speaker 1: Night tweet out the now wow.

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Speaker 3: Combine talk for my friends here. Oh wow, I got

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00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: a tweet from Brian J NBA and it's a clip

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00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: of Zach Edy running at the combine. I believe that

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00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: belongs to mister Gilmore. What a reference, looking like Happy's

1107
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: boss and Happy Gilmore chasing down Shoot McGavin for the

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00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 3: gold jacket.

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Speaker 4: Seven foot four man.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad, not bad at all.

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Speaker 3: He beat a couple of guys.

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Speaker 4: I saw.

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00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 3: He was a last Yeah. If you lose to Edie

1114
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 3: that it's bad for the draft stock Yeah, I would

1115
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: have to imagine.

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00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:15,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: I saw him do the drill around the sort of

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00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: the lateral pylons, like you're going side to side, like

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00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: you're playing defense. You look faster in that, he looked agile. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I was sprised.

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00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: He had a better vertical than Donovan Klingon I saw,

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00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 3: But I also saw that there's ways the game.

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Speaker 1: The vertical.

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00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: Whow when you do your standing reach, you don't reach.

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00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: His high Oh classic, Oh my heart, that's as high

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00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: as I can get it and then you jump.

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00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: You're like, wow, it's a weird way to measure the vertical.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean. That's what Reed Shepperd did.

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00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 3: The guy from Kentucky that whoa, he's only six foot

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00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: two and his arms barely reach over his head. Suddenly

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00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 3: he's got a forty four inch vertical. Pat Connaton, You

1132
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 3: think that guy jumps forty inches? I don't think so.

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00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 3: So they just don't put their arm up right. It's amazing,

1134
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: like like an average reach, you know whatever, rather than

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Speaker 3: like really strict.

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00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, okay, smart game a couple of inches doing

1137
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: it that way. Uh. We gotta go to the draft

1138
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 4: combine one day.

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00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

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00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 4: Well now we know we're we're like this smart. So

1141
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: we were invited.

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00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: There's some chatter about it never really happened, okay, right

1143
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: jd am I right. There was some chatters.

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00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: I want to get us out to the draft combine.

1145
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: There was some chatter for sure we might mess around

1146
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 4: and get drafted.

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00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: They're terrifying.

1148
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, wow, these guys are actually play all right

1149
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: before we go two pivotal game fives. Tonight's guys. We

1150
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 4: got Pacers, Nicks, We've got Wolves, nuggets.

1151
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 3: They are huge.

1152
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 4: These feel like, you know, possibly there's a reason why

1153
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 4: they're pivotal when it's too too that if you win

1154
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 4: this one, you maybe you're moving on. But that is tonight.

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00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 4: Can't wait for those. We'll be back tomorrow at Tenna

1156
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 4: at Eastern And yeah, we got to give it up

1157
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 4: to Larry just you know, just kicking it here the

1158
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 4: entire time. The Larry O'Brien trophies very quiet the show. Well,

1159
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: see Larry can't show any biases, right, he can't lean

1160
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 4: towards Dallas or he leaned towards Okay. See He's just

1161
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: gonna like just sit there, take it all in, and

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00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 4: ultimately he will decide. He will decide who's worthy encourage. Yes,

1163
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: everything you said had an impact on who's gonna win

1164
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: the championship. But thanks to everybody at the NBA for

1165
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 4: making this happen. It's good to see our good friend Larry.

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00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 4: We know some great Larry's Larry French, former camera operator,

1167
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: got us into a club once. Our guy Larry Luke here,

1168
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: the King of Atlanta. He'll get us into anything. And

1169
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: now our good friend Larry here. Larry O'Brien follow follow

1170
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: Larry's journey here as he makes his way to the

1171
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 4: NBA Finals. Go to at NBA Finals trophy across all

1172
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 4: of social media channels. We're talking Instagram, Twitter, x, TikTok Facebook.

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00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 4: Let's go check that out again. He liked that's fine

1174
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 4: to look at. Yeah, I'm just turning my back.

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00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: Baby, can't take your eyes away.

1176
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 4: It is like a baby.

1177
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 3: Oh so cute, so cute. Wad just sits there all right.

1178
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: So thanks againting to the.

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00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 4: NBA for bringing Larry here to the Classic Factory until tomorrow,

1180
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 4: Clipper Rose.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome, thanks for joining us. And remember

1183
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: when you see the Larry O'Brien trophy, it has zero

1184
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: fingerprints on it because I was looking for Vin's fingers,

1185
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,959
Speaker 1: Tom's fingers. Pause, nothing, just sick clean Larry.

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00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: All right, Well we're about to pick it up, so

1187
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 4: it's about to get mess.

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Speaker 3: Eight people