Speaker 1: Welcome to Will you accept This Rose? A production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. Oh, somebody just got tested for cold.
Speaker 1: Things are pretty good, you know what. You might want
Speaker 1: to wait till I get my test backs where you
Speaker 1: ask me that question? And it's not because I'm living
Speaker 1: my best life. Oh no, I'm a full mole person.
Speaker 1: My tire pop and I went to the mechanic. That's
Speaker 1: my sexy rich. I did have a doughnut on my
Speaker 1: car for eight weeks and that was starting to leak,
Speaker 1: so I had to go get a new tire. Hello,
Speaker 1: welcome to Well except this Rose. My name is Arta Marine,
Speaker 1: coming to you for my fancy garage in Los Angeles, California. Guys, journeyman,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have our guests here today, and
Speaker 1: I feel a little bit like a complete garbage person,
Speaker 1: bait and switcher in that I knew the assignment sucked.
Speaker 1: I knew generally when I bring somebody in, when I
Speaker 1: bring a rookie into the podcast, I'm excited for them
Speaker 1: because I actually know they're going to have fun watching
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I can't say with any honesty that that
Speaker 1: is the case on these greatest of all time episodes,
Speaker 1: because the editing and the three hour unnecessary time filler
Speaker 1: length coming out of Chris Harrison's Romata in of a
Speaker 1: study operated by his son who hates him is truly
Speaker 1: this is not the greatest of all time. This is
Speaker 1: really testing my patients. That being said, the podcasts have
Speaker 1: been a blast, and I feel maybe they're trying to
Speaker 1: make better podcasts so we're so angry that we're like
Speaker 1: looking for a place to have attention release out. So yes,
Speaker 1: these are my new friends, and this is my first
Speaker 1: betrayal towards them. I have tricked to them. I learned
Speaker 1: them with candy and they got trickery and shadow play
Speaker 1: and witchcraft and black magic, and that's on me. But
Speaker 1: now at least I've owned it. And we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a sacred circle where we can we can have a
Speaker 1: like a fight club. We could just leave it on
Speaker 1: the field with There's two gentlemen here today and what
Speaker 1: I love I love both of them individually. What I
Speaker 1: love about them together is that their best friends who
Speaker 1: are men that just where their best Because I love
Speaker 1: my friends too hard and I feel like they openly
Speaker 1: love each other so hard. Um. I was recently on
Speaker 1: their podcast Less Culture Stas, which is can I just
Speaker 1: say the greatest podcast ever? And as really i'd be
Speaker 1: like their podcast and anything. Brian Softye is on I
Speaker 1: worked getting me to do this quarantine. I'll just throw
Speaker 1: one of them on and I walk around and I
Speaker 1: feel like everything's gonna be okay. Um. By the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: I only got I only got COVID tested because on
Speaker 1: my flat tire. I wish it was for an exciting,
Speaker 1: sexy reason. The first gentleman you might know him, he's
Speaker 1: He was a writer for many years and now he's
Speaker 1: a cast member on the television phone Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 1: He also is a cast member on Aquafina is Nora
Speaker 1: from Queens, which is incredible. Um. He is the host
Speaker 1: of US called Rastas. I'm gonna say he's a media darling.
Speaker 1: He's fucking hilarious. He's a joy, he just woke up
Speaker 1: from a nap, and he's my precious treasure from Colorado.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Bowen Yang, Hello, how are you? I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I was zonked out when you were first
Speaker 1: checking in with me. Want you as you are. I'm
Speaker 1: so happy. We don't need you to be anything other
Speaker 1: than how you are. That's that's the truth. How I
Speaker 1: am as happy? Are you? That's good? Yes? I feel
Speaker 1: how I am right now? I feel okay, right now,
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I put on some lip gloss.
Speaker 1: That's feeling good. I've got I've cut my own hair
Speaker 1: a three times. Have you guys, have you got a
Speaker 1: pro hair cut yourself? Not yet, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1: It's not happening until the vaccine. I bought myself some
Speaker 1: high end clippers and I got a razor, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's starting to get a little wide. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I feel like my last one is not as exciting
Speaker 1: as I want. My last cut wasn't as much. I
Speaker 1: cut too much from I bobbed it and I was
Speaker 1: fishing with us. Also, he also hosts the wonderful podcast
Speaker 1: Let's called Theresta's, which is a joy and you should
Speaker 1: listen to it and it's so fun. And they have
Speaker 1: a thing called I Don't Think So honey, and it's
Speaker 1: the greatest thing ever. And I might have to do
Speaker 1: one today. Um. He is also the host of Gay
Speaker 1: the game show on Quimby Um. He was a writer
Speaker 1: on the other two. He's been on shrill. He is adorable,
Speaker 1: a g D. Delight Ladies and gentlemen, American treasure. Matt Rogers, Well,
Speaker 1: going into tonight, I was really excited. This is this
Speaker 1: is such a blast, and I have to say I'm
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled, and I have been awake all day wide
Speaker 1: awake ready for this. Oh my god, were you just
Speaker 1: slamming Bowen? And I hope you No. It wasn't a slam.
Speaker 1: It was just it was just really an observation on
Speaker 1: how people can go about doing days so differently. You
Speaker 1: know a lot of people they wake up in the
Speaker 1: morning and they sort of like survived for a few
Speaker 1: hours throughout the day, and then they'll take what's called
Speaker 1: a nap or a siesta. I sleep in very late,
Speaker 1: some would say socially unacceptable amount of time to sleep in,
Speaker 1: and then I'm awake throughout the day. I've done both
Speaker 1: of those in my life. I've done that and a nap.
Speaker 1: And I think I was fessed in that college. What
Speaker 1: time do you wake up? Matt Roger, Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I actually was really impressive. So after living in New
Speaker 1: York for ten years, I find that it's impossible to
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning in New York, and then
Speaker 1: I moved to Los Angeles and something about just the
Speaker 1: l a like maybe it's the dryness or like natural
Speaker 1: light that's happening. I will wake up naturally every day
Speaker 1: eight am. However, now with the COVID of it all,
Speaker 1: I have been sort of sleeping until like eleven eleven thirty,
Speaker 1: which I which I hate for me, I hate, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I love that for you. I find that
Speaker 1: that actually because I feel like that's what my body
Speaker 1: clock wants to do. And I drag her out of
Speaker 1: bed early like no art, and people who like themselves
Speaker 1: get up early. And I say, people who like themselves good,
Speaker 1: up early, but but they're tired. And then I I
Speaker 1: given my druthers. The problem is I nap too hard,
Speaker 1: and then it's really for at night. But when how
Speaker 1: do nap every day? I have? I don't nap every day.
Speaker 1: I used to nap so well, and in the last
Speaker 1: I would say five years, it's really deluded. My nap
Speaker 1: strength is deluded. And now I'm just taking like these
Speaker 1: little nothing naps that don't make me feel rested. But
Speaker 1: like supposedly it's the twenty minute naps that are supposed
Speaker 1: to like be the perfect length, and it's not sticking.
Speaker 1: I'm such a master of nap it to anybody out there.
Speaker 1: And if you're listening to this at a later day,
Speaker 1: I want to say, if it's winter time and you
Speaker 1: decide to take a nap, which you should because you've
Speaker 1: earned it, nap with the lights on so you don't
Speaker 1: wake up confused wondering in case you sleep too hard.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to my precious babies out there
Speaker 1: to worry that you slept through Thursday. Put the lights
Speaker 1: on so you have some idea with us. Also, are
Speaker 1: a woman who should be getting a tan about now?
Speaker 1: This is the time of year. Should we go out
Speaker 1: in bikinis and go hiking and whatnot? And Anna should
Speaker 1: now be officially Anna Tanna? How are you? How's your
Speaker 1: how's your tanning situation happening? I haven't been tanning at all.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not classic Tanna right now. I'm we
Speaker 1: need to do a kickstarter for a tanning bed for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: please please quick? Are you usually like a tan queen
Speaker 1: because I am too. I get fairy tan? Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: It's the Greek in me, oh Mediterranean. If I just
Speaker 1: get wrinkly, burned and freckled like pink. But I appre
Speaker 1: I wish I had a little Greek. Katie Levine is
Speaker 1: also here, you guys, here we go. Let's get to it.
Speaker 1: Let's just break it down. I'm so sorry you had
Speaker 1: to watch three hours of Ben Higgins. Overall thoughts, tell me,
Speaker 1: I want you to know that the show was really
Speaker 1: fun when you don't watch it in one terrible long
Speaker 1: edit with weird things of Chris Harrison's house and his
Speaker 1: son and checking it like it's just all I felt
Speaker 1: like was somebody on the on the orchestra on the
Speaker 1: side being like fill it, stretch it out, and feel
Speaker 1: like ABC is run out of programming and they're just
Speaker 1: stretching it out. It really needs to be said, how
Speaker 1: horrible Chris Harrison is, Like he sucks so bad, Like
Speaker 1: he is just so boring, He's so nothing. And I realized,
Speaker 1: I sort of vocalized last night why it's right that
Speaker 1: he's nothing, because so often the bachelors are also nothing.
Speaker 1: They are not scared of a spicy bachelor, right, and
Speaker 1: so Ben is he's a handsome guy, but ultimately nothing,
Speaker 1: and so in or two like not detract from the
Speaker 1: fact that they have a not engaging person as the
Speaker 1: lead of the show selling the franchise. You can't have
Speaker 1: someone that's in any way going to show him up.
Speaker 1: And so that's why I think they've cast what is
Speaker 1: like a total cipher. It's completely bad, Like he's truly wallpaper,
Speaker 1: and I've actually seen wallpaper. I'm more interested in than him,
Speaker 1: like like Ardens, Like like for example, Arden's in her
Speaker 1: podcast studio. That's like if that if that podcast studio
Speaker 1: wanted to apply to host the show, I think it
Speaker 1: would actually not get the job because clearly what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is they don't want anyone taking away from the
Speaker 1: person that's supposed to be the most interesting person in
Speaker 1: the world, and that's why they have the least interesting
Speaker 1: person in the world hosting it. I will say I
Speaker 1: think they do pick very safe mail leads. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take us through the episode and feel free. Here
Speaker 1: we are and we are in once again, and Chris
Speaker 1: Harrison's like, like, awful. It looks like a Ramada in lobby.
Speaker 1: This guy must have all the money in the world.
Speaker 1: And then he has his one book that he's written,
Speaker 1: the perfect letter displayed behind him over his shoulder. I
Speaker 1: looked it up. It is out of print. It's not
Speaker 1: you can't get a new cop advertising it. I actually
Speaker 1: bought one, and I'm curious. I have sent one. It's
Speaker 1: on its way. It's gonna take a while because it's
Speaker 1: not new, so it's not there were no prime options.
Speaker 1: You couldn't prime it to anyone. I'm sending it to
Speaker 1: Jerry Trainer, who does our podcast, who was on I Carly.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know that it's coming. Don't tell anybody who's listening.
Speaker 1: I he does our podcast, and he's tortured by Chris Harrison.
Speaker 1: So at some point in his life there'll be no note.
Speaker 1: I couldn't wrap it, but but the Perfect Letter will
Speaker 1: be arriving at Jerry Train. It's a novel. He wrote
Speaker 1: a novel. It's sort of like a Nicholas Sparks book
Speaker 1: where she like breaks up with the guy of her
Speaker 1: dreams and then she goes back to her home. That's
Speaker 1: what Chris Harrison wrote. It's called the Perfect Letter. There's
Speaker 1: an undertone of Christianity. I think there has to be. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed, but when Ben Higgins
Speaker 1: took a shirt off, he had a tattoo on his
Speaker 1: ribs at the scripture He had scripture tattoo. Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course did. Honestly, he is so perfectly what they were
Speaker 1: looking for in the Bachelor, and it's so it's really
Speaker 1: is you can see in sort of the Ben Higgins
Speaker 1: Bachelor model, like really, what's where we've arrived at with
Speaker 1: like capitalism. It's like this is an aspirational person. It's
Speaker 1: like a vaguely attractive because you know what he is attractive,
Speaker 1: but it's like sort of like who cares attractive with
Speaker 1: vague Christian imagery on there? Probably if you actually asked
Speaker 1: him what the stuff he has written on his body means,
Speaker 1: he may not be able to tell you, etcetera. Have
Speaker 1: you guys ever watched the show, because I know you
Speaker 1: watched Survivor well, but when what's your experience with Batch?
Speaker 1: I watched the Rachel Lindsay season, but I kind of
Speaker 1: petered out towards the end. Peter. Yeah, we love Peter.
Speaker 1: When Peter and she was like when she actually chose Brian,
Speaker 1: she was such a great bachelorette, but then her like
Speaker 1: digging in the heels and I've actually developed more complicated
Speaker 1: feelings about this recently, very recently, because when you were
Speaker 1: on last culture resas, we did talk about how me
Speaker 1: and Bowen saw the Rachel Lindsay season, and I I've
Speaker 1: realized that I actually think she made the right decision.
Speaker 1: And here's why I'm I'm actually probably shock a lot
Speaker 1: of people with this. But fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this day literal one. She was
Speaker 1: on fire for Brian. She was on fire, and this
Speaker 1: is a and the reason I watched her season is
Speaker 1: because I could tell from like an interview that she
Speaker 1: did that she was smart. I wanted to support the
Speaker 1: fact that they had finally chosen a black lead. And
Speaker 1: not only that, but like she was smart, she's funny,
Speaker 1: she's like politically active and not afraid to say what
Speaker 1: she thinks. She's beautiful, she's engaging. I was like, I
Speaker 1: could watch her go all around the world. I want
Speaker 1: to be on her journey here as she finds this guy.
Speaker 1: And the fact of the matter is when someone is
Speaker 1: like this incredible person, I believe that that she really
Speaker 1: was on fire for Brian, and that ultimately at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I was disappointed in her because
Speaker 1: I think I sort of felt for the Peter edit,
Speaker 1: because Peter is a dream boat and a great girl.
Speaker 1: But she didn't want to. She didn't want to, like,
Speaker 1: in her bones fuck Brian for the rest of I
Speaker 1: mean Peter for the rest of her life, be with Peter.
Speaker 1: She and I believe Rachel, I think she did and
Speaker 1: her bones want to fuck him. But I think she
Speaker 1: wanted to be with a guy that wanted her. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing, and bow and tell me if you
Speaker 1: agree with this. After the fantasy suits, if it's like
Speaker 1: close between two guys and she's banged both those guys
Speaker 1: and it's like I know what I want to do,
Speaker 1: then pretty much you can have a sense of But
Speaker 1: she wanted him to want to propose. I think she
Speaker 1: wanted Peter Katie right like she wanted Peter. That Peter
Speaker 1: was like, I just want to be your boyfriend, and
Speaker 1: she was like, I didn't come here to get a boyfriend.
Speaker 1: He was He was like you. She was like, you
Speaker 1: have to propose or I won't, Like you're not going
Speaker 1: to be He was like, well, I only want to
Speaker 1: propose once and I really like you. But this is
Speaker 1: new And but the way that she says it now
Speaker 1: and I don't think she's lying about this because she
Speaker 1: seems to me like she seems to me to be
Speaker 1: like a real like a real girl like she is.
Speaker 1: She says exactly what she means. I love her. I
Speaker 1: love her and I still do. And I think that
Speaker 1: she's been amazing about being so outspoken about being like
Speaker 1: I will leave this franchise if there is not a
Speaker 1: person of color lead we need. It's it's crazy and
Speaker 1: it's in in watching this three hour episode. The lack
Speaker 1: of diversity is shocking. It is unacceptable. It is it
Speaker 1: is so is the fact that we had We'll get there,
Speaker 1: But that's true. Fact that we had the amazing Jubilee
Speaker 1: and Jubilee. They didn't check him with. Jubilee was disengaged
Speaker 1: and didn't want to. I know that. My only prayer
Speaker 1: is that Julie didn't want to be there like she
Speaker 1: wanted She was on Bachelor Paradise, so I mean, she
Speaker 1: wasn't done with the franchise immediately. But we loved Jubile,
Speaker 1: all right. So here we go. Ben up top. He's
Speaker 1: in Indiana. He's shooting basketball. Is he feels unlovable? That
Speaker 1: is the thinglab You've got this hot tag guy that
Speaker 1: feels unlovable, like that was the perfect thing. Sorry, he's
Speaker 1: been rejected, and he stated a couple of women, yes, Bowen.
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, sorry sorry sorry, Like, like was that Ben's
Speaker 1: entire identity because like in the past, we have like
Speaker 1: the Virgin Bachelor, you have the pilot Bachelor. Like Ben's
Speaker 1: whole thing was he was on season eleven Bachelorrette and
Speaker 1: he was he was on Caitlin season. She was a
Speaker 1: great bachelorette, and he was on Caitlyn And that's when
Speaker 1: I started. I'm only in starting, I must look a
Speaker 1: late to the franchise. He was in Caitlyn season. Ben
Speaker 1: was actually our first podcast season we broke down and
Speaker 1: and he confessed to her in a moment that was
Speaker 1: very charming that he secretly believed that he was not
Speaker 1: lovable and that's his whole thing in his season of
Speaker 1: the Bachelor. Now, like, yes, that is his main although
Speaker 1: I that was his damage. But I didn't feel like
Speaker 1: they dragged it through Katie. What do you say, Like,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they didn't really drag it through the
Speaker 1: whole thing, but that was what I think maybe got
Speaker 1: him the title. Yeah, and then also remember he like
Speaker 1: the next season of the season after he went to
Speaker 1: Paradise and did that whole thing where he like dressed
Speaker 1: like a Marriotchie player and like went on the beach
Speaker 1: and was like, oh lovable. Do you remember that? He
Speaker 1: played it up after he milt it so that he
Speaker 1: became that he went from the guy who's unlovable to
Speaker 1: the guy who said I love I'm in love with
Speaker 1: you to two women. Was like that he sort of switched.
Speaker 1: But so then this season he actually had pretty fun ladies.
Speaker 1: We've got We've got the twins, Olivia the news anchor, Um.
Speaker 1: We had Jubilee, Uh Kayla with her bouncy hair. So
Speaker 1: Kayla got the first date and they're both in software
Speaker 1: sales and she had like full breck hair. And they
Speaker 1: go with Kevin harton ice Cube to like a dirty,
Speaker 1: cracked old spa store in the valley with party lights,
Speaker 1: and they showed like the whole date and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're in for a night like this is they don't
Speaker 1: have anything to air. Matt, what did you think of
Speaker 1: the Kevin Hart ice Cube date. I mean, I thought
Speaker 1: it was a great excuse to get Kevin Hart and
Speaker 1: ice Cube on the show. I mean they certainly booked
Speaker 1: them on the show, and they definitely did it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Kevin Hart definitely farted in that tub and it probably
Speaker 1: was the funniest thing that a lot of people that
Speaker 1: I've watched the show I've ever seen. So I celebrate
Speaker 1: the show for their ability to book celebrity guests. I
Speaker 1: think that, um, I once saw I think it was
Speaker 1: another season and they had Ashton and Mila one was it, Rachela.
Speaker 1: Amy Schumer has been on the They had was hilarious
Speaker 1: on the show. Amy Schumer is great. Nick Offerman and
Speaker 1: Megan Malayalia been on the There was a really good
Speaker 1: part of it when Amy Schumer was on where the
Speaker 1: guy was like, I just don't want to like because
Speaker 1: they were like right like comedy stand up bits and
Speaker 1: he was like. The guy was like, I just don't
Speaker 1: want to be like too smart for the audience, and
Speaker 1: Amy Schumer goes, I'm going to stop you right there.
Speaker 1: You're not. Don't worry about that, you are not. Yes, Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's like weird super fans of this show. Um,
Speaker 1: we see the crazy twins clogging the sheer a fact
Speaker 1: that they cast identical hot twins from Vegas. The twins
Speaker 1: who are a real casting find. I mean they they
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, like I wonder if there's
Speaker 1: a world where they would have been okay with him
Speaker 1: picking both of them. I even you kind of get
Speaker 1: the feeling watching this that they they've been in Vegas
Speaker 1: and like create like, I don't know, Anna, what do
Speaker 1: you think that there there's like a that you kind
Speaker 1: of feel that they've been sold as like this package
Speaker 1: in Vegas in the past, the toll twins thing. I
Speaker 1: can't really wrap my mind around. It's so inappropriate to
Speaker 1: people in this situation where you have to pick one
Speaker 1: girl who looks exactly like another girl, Like there's something
Speaker 1: so dark about that that I can't And then they're
Speaker 1: also like performers where they perform as twins, like when
Speaker 1: they were like hello, nice to meet you at the
Speaker 1: same time that I mean, they clogged together. So it's
Speaker 1: like it's not even just like twins. It's like weird,
Speaker 1: like sort of this they essentially cast the same person.
Speaker 1: It's weird. They're weird and paradise. I remember watching one
Speaker 1: of them. I remember watching them get each other ready
Speaker 1: for a date, and they had like they had like
Speaker 1: Tanner wipes like self Tanner wipes, and I remember watching
Speaker 1: one of them put like down the ass whole like
Speaker 1: of the other one, like wiping into the ass crack,
Speaker 1: Like do you remember that? Do you remember that? I
Speaker 1: remember it. I can never forget something like that. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: can I have a sibling. I can't imagine my brother ever,
Speaker 1: like wiping my ass crack with Tanner? No, but did
Speaker 1: they did they? Did they get sent home at the
Speaker 1: same on the same day. No, Yeah, that was That's
Speaker 1: what confused me. The whole thing is so crazy. Then
Speaker 1: we have a little so then they're like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I really feel like ABC is trying to be woke,
Speaker 1: and they're like, remember we had Jubilee, like didn't get
Speaker 1: her back, but like she was so great, She's so beautiful.
Speaker 1: She's an army veteran. She and she was cool and
Speaker 1: she was like I have trouble talking around you sometimes.
Speaker 1: She's obsessed with hot dogs. Um, and that she was
Speaker 1: her entire family had died and like she said that
Speaker 1: she worried that she wasn't lovable. She was adopted, she
Speaker 1: was in an orphanage, and she was the only surviving
Speaker 1: person of her family. And I just loved her. I
Speaker 1: wish she was a bachelorette. I would like to know how, Like,
Speaker 1: were you surprised that they didn't cut to her Anna,
Speaker 1: Like I was waiting for a check in with Jubile.
Speaker 1: I feel like Jubilee has turned away from this this
Speaker 1: franchise after her turn in uh Paradise, where they didn't
Speaker 1: even she was cook right away, or like she just
Speaker 1: left and they didn't explain why she left. Maybe that
Speaker 1: was the second time she went back, but she just
Speaker 1: was like at one point, they're like, Jubilee and Venmo
Speaker 1: John didn't work out, Jubilee left and we're all like
Speaker 1: what and then it was like, gone, don't worry about it,
Speaker 1: that's right. I forgot that she was with Venmo John
Speaker 1: for a second. Venmo John. There was a guy named
Speaker 1: John who worked at Venmo Then that's the classy name
Speaker 1: Venmo John. I love that. I feel like Jubilee honestly
Speaker 1: was probably approached to do a check in and she
Speaker 1: was like, if you think that right now, I am
Speaker 1: coming on Bachelor your three hour Bachelor Corporate asked Garbage
Speaker 1: to like talk about the ways in which I think
Speaker 1: that she probably is incredibly smart and has moved on
Speaker 1: from this, and I think they filmed this months ago.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that, because Kayla says that she's been
Speaker 1: engaged since January and it's been a few months. It's
Speaker 1: been a few months. I think these were all filmed
Speaker 1: in one weird weekend with Chris Harrison and his son Um.
Speaker 1: I think they banged this out when they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: ship Claire is not going to get to Okay, let's
Speaker 1: do it in April. Like, I think they banged it
Speaker 1: all out in one weekend, well before anything went down
Speaker 1: with any like you, I wouldn't be surprised if, like
Speaker 1: her viewpoint on the franchise is similar to Rachel's, which
Speaker 1: is like, what the hell I mean? Like, I think
Speaker 1: that if she was not asked to be the Bachelorette,
Speaker 1: that's a mistake because she very clearly is the most engaging,
Speaker 1: most unique, followable person that they depicted last night in
Speaker 1: this show. And I wouldn't be surprised if she kind
Speaker 1: of feels like hind typing. Maybe she's still a fan
Speaker 1: of the show. I know she like still watches it
Speaker 1: and tweets about it, but she's got a private Instagram. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she she has really disappeared from like public life for her.
Speaker 1: But she but she is I think, like anyone else
Speaker 1: in the world who has a brain, like I've read
Speaker 1: it really like sort of galvanized and like really is
Speaker 1: working hard right now in this in this cultural moment.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if, like maybe she did
Speaker 1: they did check in with her and she was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be used, like or something like that,
Speaker 1: because it was odd that they did not follow up
Speaker 1: with her, and they did follow up with like Lace.
Speaker 1: I know, I did think this all happened before. I
Speaker 1: do think this, any of this happened before. But like
Speaker 1: I bet they would have begged Jubilee. Yeah, o god,
Speaker 1: they should have. She would be the most interesting bachelorette,
Speaker 1: Like I think about hometowns, like just shot. It would
Speaker 1: just be like it would be like a study on grief.
Speaker 1: It would be a study on like resilience. And she's
Speaker 1: so hot and she's a veteran. She's like she's like
Speaker 1: a like black woman. She's a veteran, she's interesting, she
Speaker 1: has a dynamic past. She but the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is like and Rachel talks about this a little
Speaker 1: bit too liked. Did you know there was a ratings
Speaker 1: dip when Rachel was the Bachelor. It's so fucked up
Speaker 1: because she's so obviously the best bachelorette, but there was
Speaker 1: a ratings dip because the viewing audience is racist, and
Speaker 1: I think that they they don't, they just don't. There's
Speaker 1: a lot. So I think that the way you do
Speaker 1: that is, like, you have to get this viewing audience
Speaker 1: used to seeing a more diverse cast and that's not
Speaker 1: something they've done until recently. Because you look at this
Speaker 1: cast when you're like, yeah, no, wonder they're shocked when
Speaker 1: you have a black lead. You haven't like, you haven't
Speaker 1: had any black cast members. And you also like, I know,
Speaker 1: and there's there's actually we always talk We've been talking
Speaker 1: about this every week, but there's a great Instagram account
Speaker 1: called Batch Diversity that has petition going, that had the
Speaker 1: petition going that I think helped get the first black
Speaker 1: Bachelor cast. But they're also petitioning to have thirty five
Speaker 1: representation of like, you know, a diverse cast. They want
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes. They want to be equitable screen time.
Speaker 1: So even if the cast is like, they want fair
Speaker 1: equal screen time, they want mental health resources to help
Speaker 1: support um, you know, any minority people that go on
Speaker 1: and have to help deal with the because it's like
Speaker 1: an unusual situation. So go to Badge Diversity and sign
Speaker 1: the petition and post about it. Think about also, like
Speaker 1: what Jubilee had to deal with in the house, being
Speaker 1: the only black woman there in the house with all
Speaker 1: these women, Like like, that's another thing. It's not even
Speaker 1: just about like Oncomera representation, it's about the experience she
Speaker 1: must Yeah, I think there was like two other wasn't Jamie.
Speaker 1: There's like two other African American women there. Maybe there
Speaker 1: was one girl who didn't like belive, uh Jamie Jamie
Speaker 1: and I don't remember. Unfortunately, don't show them, you don't.
Speaker 1: I recall she came in and my crazy and I
Speaker 1: feel like there was two women. But yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine. It's And what's interesting is like Paradise has
Speaker 1: actually gotten much more like I feel like Paradise is
Speaker 1: looks more like the rest of the world a little
Speaker 1: bit like because but Paradise looks like the rest of
Speaker 1: the world. It really does. Guys, it's getting better. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: So then we have uh, they go to the pig Island.
Speaker 1: I remember this group date and there was his pigs
Speaker 1: swimming and then the pigs just start attacking all the women.
Speaker 1: The pigs were like attacking Jojo and I remember this
Speaker 1: was like a disaster of a group date, which I
Speaker 1: very much enjoyed. Um, and then we get the beauty.
Speaker 1: I have to say Lace was an incredible character because
Speaker 1: what was funny was you thought Lace was going to
Speaker 1: be the villain and then and then Olivia ended up
Speaker 1: being the villain. But Lace came out hard. It was
Speaker 1: so fun as a villain because she just was hammered,
Speaker 1: like from the get go, and her eyes are closed.
Speaker 1: She's like close your eyes like the first kiss, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's like, well you got it, you know. And
Speaker 1: then she's like I just want then want me? Do
Speaker 1: you notice me? Do you even know that? I mean,
Speaker 1: you didn't even look at me. I talked to your saying,
Speaker 1: it's so fun to watch, like I felt like my
Speaker 1: drunk aunt at Thanksgiving. But like he was hot and
Speaker 1: like a real estate agent her deaver w was like
Speaker 1: trying to corner Ben Higgins and she's so hot, but
Speaker 1: then like clearly his hands were full. Did you enjoy Lace?
Speaker 1: Matt rogers. Um, did I enjoy lace? Yeah, I identify
Speaker 1: um with someone being like, Hi, you didn't look at me.
Speaker 1: I get her. Um. I also ultimately felt really sad
Speaker 1: for her because her realization that she is like not
Speaker 1: well completely, I think. And also I think that probably
Speaker 1: she came off weird to the audience, but I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: knowing what I know about the way it's produced and everything,
Speaker 1: I think that she was genuinely coming to the realization that, like,
Speaker 1: I need to step away from this because it's not
Speaker 1: good for me and probably good for people watching this
Speaker 1: to see me like this. I don't like the message
Speaker 1: and sending. I don't like this psychologically what it's doing
Speaker 1: to me, and I need to remove myself. And even
Speaker 1: though I might look crazy in the moment doing this,
Speaker 1: it's better I do this now than I continue to spiral,
Speaker 1: because I need help. She's the only character that's been
Speaker 1: on it that had the wherewithal to actually pull herself
Speaker 1: out of like by the scruff of the neck, Like
Speaker 1: she actually had enough wherewith a pretty early on, because
Speaker 1: she made a high impact low episodes like pretty early on,
Speaker 1: made a big impression and was the only person I've
Speaker 1: ever seen who was like, you know what, this probably
Speaker 1: isn't for the best of everybody, Like as my tattoo says,
Speaker 1: if you can't love yourself, ain't nobody gonna love you?
Speaker 1: Like I was like, you know, she was like the
Speaker 1: and but it was just amazing. It was like we
Speaker 1: have eye contact glory where I fucking these bitches because
Speaker 1: suck it. And then she was like, I was very dork.
Speaker 1: Let me I was very dork When can I tell
Speaker 1: you a picture? Bow and let me tell you a picture.
Speaker 1: I was very dorky looking when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I had two sets of bangs Wassanta dana. And then
Speaker 1: she starts crying like I ruined my chance. And because
Speaker 1: this was at the lace, I promised myself I would
Speaker 1: be the bad lace came out and I just thought
Speaker 1: and then she was mad at herself and and it
Speaker 1: was and then and then we saw her today. Well,
Speaker 1: and Yang, how did you feel about seeing the present
Speaker 1: day lace? I was happy to see present day lace.
Speaker 1: The ring light against her makeup on her face, her
Speaker 1: no favors. It was a different tone from her neck
Speaker 1: and her shoulders. Yes, um, but she seems remarkably she
Speaker 1: seems really well adjusted now though, I really do I see.
Speaker 1: I feel like she's like a best case scenario what
Speaker 1: happens to a reality show person who kind of makes
Speaker 1: a fool of themselves and then his like and then yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it speaks to like her self awareness and
Speaker 1: her agency to like first of all, pull away from
Speaker 1: the show in the moment, and then second of all
Speaker 1: to like come back to it years later and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I'm not even like that. That's that's not who
Speaker 1: I want. That's not who I am, and I've changed.
Speaker 1: It was kind of cool. I I enjoyed the lace
Speaker 1: check in and were you gm it on life? Man?
Speaker 1: Lanes is such an interesting character to me because did
Speaker 1: you also know she denied that's what her tattoo sat
Speaker 1: at the end of hers like, that's not what it
Speaker 1: started your own tattoo and she was like, what is it?
Speaker 1: Kind of Harrison, she was like, she was like, that's
Speaker 1: what it said as my tattoos does who were just
Speaker 1: going off the info you gave us. Yeah, Also, what
Speaker 1: you guys don't know is she went on to Paradise
Speaker 1: and was engaged to that guy Grant, and Grant turned
Speaker 1: out an interesting character her. Yeah, they got a grace tattoo,
Speaker 1: Grant lace, that's the whole thing. And then Grant and
Speaker 1: her broke up, and Grant went on Bachelor in Paradise,
Speaker 1: Australia and then hooked up with this girl Ali, this
Speaker 1: Australian girl Ali, but then ended up breaking up with
Speaker 1: Ali after he walked in on her on a night
Speaker 1: where they'd been drinking in l A getting eaten out
Speaker 1: in his stairway by his friend, and so he walked
Speaker 1: in on her. She wouldn't kiss anyone, and then she
Speaker 1: came to a late to visit and then and then
Speaker 1: allegedly he found her like getting eaten out in the
Speaker 1: Sarah and then told everyone. He told everyone, and he
Speaker 1: went on a podcast and told everyone, Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: why they broke up. And then she became the bachelorette.
Speaker 1: She became Bachelor at Australia. And I love that she
Speaker 1: became the bachelorette though, because I think that that is
Speaker 1: the kind of person I would like to see on
Speaker 1: television more. It's like, no, I'm not kissing you, eat
Speaker 1: my pussy, Like that's the kind of ship I want.
Speaker 1: I think we can benefit from that type of lead
Speaker 1: more than like the Ben Higgins is of the world.
Speaker 1: Women are more The women are more like that. I
Speaker 1: feel like the guys are so vanilla, and I find
Speaker 1: that the female leads are more fun like, They're a
Speaker 1: little more they got more excitement. The guys are so
Speaker 1: these are not got The only sexy guy they had
Speaker 1: turned out to be such a piece of ship one Pablo.
Speaker 1: You think he was the sexiest one. I think at
Speaker 1: first he was the only one that had any game,
Speaker 1: and then like like he was the only one that
Speaker 1: any sex appeal, But then he turned out to be
Speaker 1: such a dirt ball. I don't know why I'm so
Speaker 1: attracted to Nick Vile. Okay, he he's a lovely guy.
Speaker 1: He's a friend of the podcast. I'm going to say
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was a great bachelor because he
Speaker 1: I think he'd been through the machine. He'd seen behind
Speaker 1: the curtain so many times. You saw the lightly of
Speaker 1: his eyes after a while, Yeah, he was checked out.
Speaker 1: He was like road hard and put away wet. Have
Speaker 1: you met him? He's very hot in person. No, I've
Speaker 1: never met him, but be he's got big dick energy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, for anyone that Rachel thought she was in
Speaker 1: love with I'm in love with Yeah, who would you pick?
Speaker 1: Brian with his cheekbones and his mom, Peter with a
Speaker 1: salty heritage teeth gap or nick Vale and his b D. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think that, like it's a scary answer, Like I
Speaker 1: think I think I might be down for Brian the
Speaker 1: most because he I think he's got like the most
Speaker 1: sexy energy, but very long island. Brian's very long. That's
Speaker 1: the thing is. It's like it's a thing like intrinsic
Speaker 1: in me, Like that's sort of like what's his last name?
Speaker 1: Abo Solo dr Abs. He has like a mug that's
Speaker 1: his doctor Abbs. The thing about him though, was chiropractors
Speaker 1: are not doctors. Um, but it's funny that he calls
Speaker 1: himself the doctor um. But doctor Abs. I love um.
Speaker 1: The thing is I actually, out of the four that
Speaker 1: were Rachel's top four, my favorite was it was it
Speaker 1: would be between Dean and Eric. I like, is hot?
Speaker 1: Dean is so hot? Okay, well let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: So Dean comes back and we see Dean and Kaylin
Speaker 1: and they're like in the van and I have to
Speaker 1: tell you we've met Dean. He is so fucking hot,
Speaker 1: Like you see where he needed to put that ring
Speaker 1: on because he's not going to stop people like his eyes,
Speaker 1: he's something. He's really tall. Can we just that he's tall.
Speaker 1: He's a tall guy. His eyes are so mesmerizing and
Speaker 1: he's had a little twinkle in his eyes. And do
Speaker 1: you remember from her season he's got that terrible dad
Speaker 1: is at s where his mom is. His dad became
Speaker 1: a seek after his mom died and like and then
Speaker 1: like I remember they had them at like the yur
Speaker 1: and they were like feeding like nick vile mung beans. No,
Speaker 1: it was and I'm sorry it was as Rachel. They
Speaker 1: laid on the floor and she told him that she
Speaker 1: loved him. Did she told her she was in love
Speaker 1: with him. So we met him right after that before
Speaker 1: Paradise where and it was literally we did Outside Lands
Speaker 1: and we were concerned because we were the earliest show
Speaker 1: of the entire Outside Lands Festival of any It was
Speaker 1: a broad daylight, you know, and like competing against like
Speaker 1: like a musical act like and so we're like no
Speaker 1: one's and tickets are expensive. We're like, literally no one
Speaker 1: is going to come. It's like eight am. It was
Speaker 1: so crowded because of Dean I truly believe it was
Speaker 1: as if it was like, um, Robert Pattinson at the
Speaker 1: height of twilight and I had to go get him
Speaker 1: and lock him through the crowd. That it took me
Speaker 1: like five minutes to walk him to our our tent
Speaker 1: because so many girls will be like even I gotta
Speaker 1: keep going, we gotta keep going. Yeah, because he smartem
Speaker 1: you didn't leave, So I don't know. I I thought
Speaker 1: he was this this is the thing. I this was
Speaker 1: my pull in watching in watching his interview with his
Speaker 1: now fiance or whatever is happening. It's like he has
Speaker 1: stumbled upon like this idea that you don't have to
Speaker 1: get married to wear a ring or be committed, and
Speaker 1: you could tell this was like something that he had
Speaker 1: worked for years to arrive at. And I'm like, this
Speaker 1: is like not that intellectual of a place to arrive,
Speaker 1: but he had when she had treated it like it
Speaker 1: was this thing, like this major breakthrough he had made,
Speaker 1: and I was like, cool, dude, you have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: But they spent like truly so long last night and
Speaker 1: explaining that they wear rings and are committed to each
Speaker 1: other but are not getting married. It was just like,
Speaker 1: do we need any more time understanding they're not going
Speaker 1: to get married. Okay, he doesn't want to marry this
Speaker 1: girl like his dad about like wanted to not get
Speaker 1: the government involved in a little like libertarian seed bank
Speaker 1: and that like like Idaho, there was a little seed
Speaker 1: bank quality of like the gun, it's not gonna I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna let the man know who's legally married to
Speaker 1: me the way Calin said, Um, we don't have to
Speaker 1: get the government involved, screamed libertarian. I was like, and
Speaker 1: it's like she was a beauty pageant queens beauty. She
Speaker 1: was the beauty queen. Honey, you want that way? Now
Speaker 1: she has like Instagram face so like fully like cheekbones,
Speaker 1: flips cat face, like can we talk about the Instagram
Speaker 1: face and we can get there a little like we
Speaker 1: there was a text about happening last night. They all
Speaker 1: kind of although Jojo is pretty much stayed Jojo for
Speaker 1: the but like I like jo I love Jojo. Lauren's face,
Speaker 1: Laura's new face, like the girl that we saw last
Speaker 1: night who failed for Ben Higgins and then the present
Speaker 1: day Laura. It's literally like to completely let me see
Speaker 1: if I could hold up Facebook. This is like her,
Speaker 1: this was her like a week ago. This is Laura
Speaker 1: a week ago. That's a complete different human. The drawline
Speaker 1: is sad down for filth, the jawline, the new teeth.
Speaker 1: I think it knows job. Maybe we should say it's
Speaker 1: the patriarchy that did this to her and that before
Speaker 1: and after. Yeah, I mean, though they don't look the same.
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is, like, regardless of
Speaker 1: like what she's looking like now, I could not believe
Speaker 1: that she was the one that he thicked. What is
Speaker 1: her deal? Like? What what is interesting about her? Tell
Speaker 1: Us are truly stunned, literally, I think for I think
Speaker 1: that he I think the side of him that thought
Speaker 1: he wasn't lovable. This is my this is my armchair psychologists.
Speaker 1: I think the side of him that thought he wasn't
Speaker 1: lovable for whatever reason, she reminded him of the dream
Speaker 1: girls in high school that he couldn't get like that
Speaker 1: were kind of like and I think it was I
Speaker 1: can't believe she's with me for whatever reason, like his
Speaker 1: high school brain. This is my armchair psychologist of like
Speaker 1: she's the virgin. Maybe she looked like the girl and
Speaker 1: like I think she was the prom queen. And even
Speaker 1: though Jojo is a stunner and cool. I think she's
Speaker 1: also kind of waify. She felt a little bit like
Speaker 1: wifey material. I don't think he wanted anything like threatening
Speaker 1: or he didn't want the he didn't want the interesting one.
Speaker 1: No no jojo was great. Okay, before we get to that,
Speaker 1: then we have Olivia before before we get Olivia, we'll
Speaker 1: take a little quick break. Oh yeah, sex time out. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Olivia comes back. Olivia, we find she was a
Speaker 1: fun villain. She really was an interesting one because usually
Speaker 1: if somebody gets the first impression Rose, they make it
Speaker 1: pretty far. And they've actually said historically with the females
Speaker 1: when there's a bachelorette, whoever they give their first impressions
Speaker 1: who they end up kicking, which was Brian dr apps Um.
Speaker 1: So Olivia got the first impression Rose, and she was
Speaker 1: she was a news anchor. She was beautiful, she was
Speaker 1: continent girl, but she was a little crazy with the
Speaker 1: other gals. And she did have a face she would
Speaker 1: make that was like like she got a little the
Speaker 1: competition got the best of her. She was like sort
Speaker 1: of hissed. It was like a devil eye, like she
Speaker 1: got a little much. But but this was where we
Speaker 1: really saw how mean the franchise could be. And like
Speaker 1: I remember the gals being mean about her cankles, Like
Speaker 1: they were talking about her ankles and like they were
Speaker 1: so mean. I think mostly because she kept getting the roses,
Speaker 1: like I think, and she was very competitive and uh,
Speaker 1: this poor gal. And then when she jumped out of
Speaker 1: the cake, it's like, Okay, well that's awkward and if
Speaker 1: you're not a dancer, Like it wasn't that bad bad
Speaker 1: when she broke down after that, because that was like
Speaker 1: about more than yeah, they made her do that. She
Speaker 1: felt self conscious, She tried to have fun with it.
Speaker 1: Didn't thought that she looked stupid. All the women were
Speaker 1: probably look you know, that probably was a much thicker
Speaker 1: experienced I think because she's also been so she was
Speaker 1: very she was all like bravado. She was super confident,
Speaker 1: and I think watching that it reminded me of like
Speaker 1: a terrible stand up show I had once, like a
Speaker 1: showcase for like Warner Brothers, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: where we like you know, where like the I remember
Speaker 1: like the other comics like couldn't look me in the eye.
Speaker 1: You know, this was like twelve years ago, Like she
Speaker 1: bombed for the first Yeah, she bombed, and you know
Speaker 1: you ate ship and everyone knows you ate ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a terrible Have you mean bombing, I've I've bombed
Speaker 1: when it's really counted, and me too. How do you
Speaker 1: shake that? Like when you've bombed when it's counted, like
Speaker 1: it's one of the worst feelings in the world. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like when I there's certain environments, like there's
Speaker 1: certain things I still think of that, it's like, I
Speaker 1: just want to take a shame shower. I just want
Speaker 1: to wash it off. Well that's what you You act
Speaker 1: crazy when you're not someone who bombs, and then you bomb,
Speaker 1: you act crazy afterwards because you're like, but you guys
Speaker 1: know right, I mean come on, that was like and
Speaker 1: that that's I think where she went where It's like
Speaker 1: that's why she went over to him and was like,
Speaker 1: I want to start over, and he was like kind
Speaker 1: of like what because I would imagine that that was
Speaker 1: not necessarily as bad in his eyes as it was
Speaker 1: in her head. So I think that she and also
Speaker 1: remember they're doing this for months. The other women in
Speaker 1: the house don't like her. The only people she's got
Speaker 1: to talk to other producers. Um so it's like and
Speaker 1: they want her to go crazy, and so I feel
Speaker 1: really bad for her because I could identify what she
Speaker 1: was doing. And also the fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: like when they were saying the whole time, like the
Speaker 1: way that Chris Harrison was saying the whole time in
Speaker 1: the episode, and of course Olivia they would it was
Speaker 1: like she was a serial killer or something. And then
Speaker 1: they got to her and I'm like, Oh, what's this
Speaker 1: girl's big thing? Like she's like winning and the other
Speaker 1: girls don't like her, and she's kind of annoying. Like
Speaker 1: they didn't edit and I think because they didn't want
Speaker 1: to look too much like the bullies that they are.
Speaker 1: Like even though they did kind of bully like, I
Speaker 1: felt like they did kind of like, oh, hey, how
Speaker 1: are you a living? Like it was still checking it
Speaker 1: really bad they had edited her. I mean, she was
Speaker 1: she was a person who even though it was which
Speaker 1: is interesting because she made her career on camera, but
Speaker 1: who had no awareness of she was so thirsty for
Speaker 1: him and so extra that she would literally be like
Speaker 1: like and to watch somebody be like top dog but
Speaker 1: like not be able to roll um, it felt like
Speaker 1: punching down annoying yeah, yeah, but they could say they
Speaker 1: also did really like if I would went through what
Speaker 1: she went through, I would have such like horrible body
Speaker 1: dysmorphia because they would funk with her and be like, well,
Speaker 1: the other girls are like, well, she doesn't eat anything,
Speaker 1: that's why her breath smells so bad, and like being
Speaker 1: like that's why Ben keeps trying to feed her mint.
Speaker 1: Like it's like all this funked up stuff where it's
Speaker 1: like what they were just theyggested anything they could. And
Speaker 1: then this poor young lady who looked so cute, nast
Speaker 1: and I loved her haircut. I felt she seemed to
Speaker 1: have I mean it was the underbelly of seeing the
Speaker 1: amount of therapy and like not just like heartache like Jojo,
Speaker 1: like oh I didn't get picked, but like I got
Speaker 1: beat up by America and humiliated and then left on
Speaker 1: the beach as a helicopter drove away, like it was
Speaker 1: so much that too on by the blowhole that like
Speaker 1: the island. He was not a two on one. He
Speaker 1: picked one of the twins. I remember, Oh God, would
Speaker 1: you could tell that? You could tell that once the
Speaker 1: check and started and she's like, I'm so nervous and shaking.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this is a trauma, Like this is
Speaker 1: traumatic seven pete yess and then having to apologize. I
Speaker 1: actually felt that he well, there's a part of him
Speaker 1: and wants to run for office. I actually felt that
Speaker 1: he was classy, Like I felt that he did the
Speaker 1: right thing apologizing. Yeah, but I was he wasn't addressing
Speaker 1: her though. Did you notice that he was addressing the
Speaker 1: audience and not her the entire time? He was like, guys,
Speaker 1: come on, like, go easy on Lace, this woman is amazing.
Speaker 1: It's like you're not talking to her, and also like
Speaker 1: it's not us that needs to chill, Like I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: there are fans that are abusive to her, but it's
Speaker 1: like you were a part of this situation. You're the
Speaker 1: person that's in a power position here and you're the
Speaker 1: one who, in the television show we're watching has been
Speaker 1: introduced to apologize, so you apologize. Yeah. It also felt
Speaker 1: it's been interesting all these people, including the leads, are like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you're airing, Like nobody seems excited to
Speaker 1: have their season. Did you notice that everyone's everyone wants
Speaker 1: to forget about it. Everybody wants to forget about it,
Speaker 1: so then we have um alright, so oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: was the blowhole in the wind and she was shaking,
Speaker 1: poor Olivia. I was I'm glad that it was actually
Speaker 1: funny because we were watching it and my boyfriend was
Speaker 1: sitting next to me, and while he's while she was
Speaker 1: talking and doing the check in, he was like, I
Speaker 1: love her, and I was like, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I like her too. And then I looked
Speaker 1: over at the end of her interview and I peeked
Speaker 1: over my boyfriend. My boyfriend is very funny. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: just like the way he behaves. It is in the world.
Speaker 1: I looked over his shoulder and he was following her
Speaker 1: on Instagram. I mean, she was like a beautiful kind
Speaker 1: of cool. I love that she She also has a
Speaker 1: podcast called Mouthing Off where she reaches out to other villains.
Speaker 1: There's a villain support group. That's a really cool. I yeah,
Speaker 1: I would listened to that. Has anyone listened to that?
Speaker 1: I browsed the episodes and she doesn't do just bachelor people.
Speaker 1: She does like ninety Day Fiance villains. It was all
Speaker 1: It's a whole podcast of villains of like romance reality
Speaker 1: show villains. That's fun. That's a fun idea for a podcast. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think she she came out a lot. I mean
Speaker 1: because I remember reading that she was like suicidal afterwards
Speaker 1: and came a way you get you feel worthless everyone, everyone,
Speaker 1: and you know that people were in her m telling
Speaker 1: her to herself and I kind of hate that that
Speaker 1: what's his name, Harrison, Chris Harrison was all I just yeah,
Speaker 1: like he was like, well, I'm really sorry about that.
Speaker 1: It's like, are you kidding you ruined her? Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: but you also wonder like, okay, so she had she
Speaker 1: was clearly like presentable enough, like a put together and
Speaker 1: smart enough to be like a reporter, you know, like
Speaker 1: was that her whole chances? I feel like once people
Speaker 1: enter to this franchise, everyone gives up any career they
Speaker 1: had before. Like it's just immediately, like take your career
Speaker 1: out of your pocket, leave it in the bag at
Speaker 1: the door. You'll never see that again. You're going to
Speaker 1: become an influencer. It's like, yeah, my boyfriend brought that up.
Speaker 1: He was like, I feel like this is going to
Speaker 1: ruin their lives. And he was like he was like,
Speaker 1: I hate this show. This is so mean. This is
Speaker 1: the worst thing ever. And I looked at him and
Speaker 1: I was like, Jared, they're getting what they wanted out
Speaker 1: of this, which is to become a social media influencer,
Speaker 1: like essentially like so, but but also at the same time, like,
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the people that they
Speaker 1: get to get on this show really do believe in
Speaker 1: the fairy tale of it, and that's sad um. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it works out some sometimes it works You need to
Speaker 1: come when it's a normal thing and not a horrible
Speaker 1: um time goblin just eating your mondy. Like, well, I've
Speaker 1: seen the whole season. I've seen the Rachel's season, which
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I think a great representation of
Speaker 1: the show, did you like? I loved the most of
Speaker 1: the reason and then on the last episode I thought
Speaker 1: she kind of lost it for me. In the last
Speaker 1: two episodes when she told Dean that she loved him,
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little fucked up, and when
Speaker 1: she clearly was just feeling bad and maybe in her feelings,
Speaker 1: but also you can't expect it to be perfect all
Speaker 1: the time. And then when she didn't pick Peter, I
Speaker 1: was upset because I didn't understand why she went if
Speaker 1: she was just gonna pick Brian. Why did she need
Speaker 1: to weep her eyelasters off with him in the hall
Speaker 1: with Peter in the hallway and like beg him to
Speaker 1: stay and like beg him whatever, and then say, just kidding,
Speaker 1: I was going to pick Brian the whole time. So
Speaker 1: the hypocrisy of that I didn't like. But ultimately this
Speaker 1: season I loved. I guarantee Um that Matt James season
Speaker 1: is going to be fantastic. You think, Yeah, I do,
Speaker 1: because we don't know anything about Matt James, right, Because
Speaker 1: I actually think that's great. Like I think there's a
Speaker 1: beauty of a reset of because they used to do that,
Speaker 1: they used to go find eligible people and bring someone new. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's good to press reset on the franchise.
Speaker 1: Somebody outside. He's best friends with one of the one
Speaker 1: of the most beloved contestants there ever, was um Tyler Cameron,
Speaker 1: who was so adorable. Who's a nice guy who loved
Speaker 1: his mom, Like he's a stand up guy and they're
Speaker 1: best friends. Anyway. Okay, so here we are we have
Speaker 1: so we're at the Fantasy Sweets. There's three women. Oh
Speaker 1: there was also Amanda. Amanda was a single mom. Um
Speaker 1: she made it to hometown and um, and she's got
Speaker 1: two little kids. I mean, Amanda was very popular. She
Speaker 1: did a lot of rounds on this franchise. It was interesting.
Speaker 1: She was so cute. It was like, like, to be
Speaker 1: fair to Amanda. I think she had two little kids
Speaker 1: and her husband dumped her, Like I think she got
Speaker 1: left high and dry. Her kids were three and two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he just laughed so brutal. So it's um. So
Speaker 1: then she left those kids two for three months to
Speaker 1: go to the battle. Yeah, that's exactly right, but she
Speaker 1: did do that. It's definitely it's hard because you can
Speaker 1: see where Ben says he's not scared and he goes
Speaker 1: to go meet and I remember when he went to
Speaker 1: go meet them, like the whole episode, they were like
Speaker 1: crying and in like a minivan. You can see the terror,
Speaker 1: the water like the Titanic water rising of just like panic. Um.
Speaker 1: That is I'm always conflicted when there's like little people
Speaker 1: involved in that they and that they meet them on
Speaker 1: the show. That's hard. Yeah, that's another thing. Jared said.
Speaker 1: He was like, I cannot believe that she is putting
Speaker 1: these kids through and I was like, yeah, but she
Speaker 1: really believes that like she I mean, she obviously wants
Speaker 1: like a father figure for them, and I think she's
Speaker 1: just going about it in an odd way. And the
Speaker 1: kids were adorable, and I said to him, I'm like,
Speaker 1: they're not going to remember that they were little enough
Speaker 1: in some ways, because we've seen other there was another
Speaker 1: really cute mom that was on one Pablo season and
Speaker 1: her son Ben was a little older, but he was
Speaker 1: a dad too. It's hard. Your only hope is that
Speaker 1: these gals, these little girls, don't remember they were little enough.
Speaker 1: He's just going to be a cool guy they played
Speaker 1: with one time and they were kind of in the
Speaker 1: back of their mind. It's hard to watch, so you're like,
Speaker 1: oh God, Okay. So she gets cut and then we
Speaker 1: have Kayla with a bouncy hair and he calls her
Speaker 1: a sex panther. We learned last week that Ben Higgins
Speaker 1: was a sex ed miner in college, which is insane,
Speaker 1: which means he's bad in bed. Yes, the sex said miner. Um,
Speaker 1: Kayla's whole thing. She's a tigriss, She's a sex panther.
Speaker 1: She can't express herself. She's crying her friends that she's
Speaker 1: having a hard time opening up. Um and I remember
Speaker 1: loving her mom when we went to hometown. I remember
Speaker 1: her mom. Her mom was Asian queen. She was, she
Speaker 1: was a queen, Asian queen. She was like, she goes, well, honey,
Speaker 1: if you really love him, even run downstairs and jump
Speaker 1: on him and tell him that you love him. I
Speaker 1: remember me, like, I loved her mom. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: any I love any parent figure that's like real. Yeah
Speaker 1: she had she fully had adult races. She was super cool.
Speaker 1: She was like, go get at it, and she was fun. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved her. She was she was an Asian queen.
Speaker 1: She was. I loved her. I loved her. So then
Speaker 1: we have her um crying. She's ready to get married,
Speaker 1: she's ready to be his wife. Like he cuts her,
Speaker 1: and I remember, like I remember they were at Jamaica. Sandals.
Speaker 1: Isn't that right, Katie, isn't sell it Sandals Jamaica. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the last like those last three episodes were all
Speaker 1: in Sandals Jamaica. Okay, which actually e strangely nice, which
Speaker 1: was confusing. And I'm going to tell Bowen. I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell Bowen and Met something that we're going to
Speaker 1: cut out. Okay, we're back. This is the just we're back,
Speaker 1: but we just spoke about fantasy and this is the
Speaker 1: thing I want to say about the fantasy suite though,
Speaker 1: that is a huge deal, And the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter is like the viewing audience has to understand, like,
Speaker 1: you're watching this and watching this and watching this, but
Speaker 1: what happens behind closed doors that we don't see we
Speaker 1: just have to accept as a huge narrative hole because
Speaker 1: it's like you are going to act like a different
Speaker 1: person when the cameras aren't there and be like how
Speaker 1: you physically and sexually, emotionally in that way open up
Speaker 1: to someone and connect to someone is huge. So I'm
Speaker 1: not surprised at all to hear that the results of
Speaker 1: that closed door experience weigh in heavily. I think, particularly
Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, the burden is on the ladies. I
Speaker 1: fear that like to put on the show of your life,
Speaker 1: like but not too much of it, Like you still
Speaker 1: want to be like wifey material because these are nice
Speaker 1: like Christian boys and like, well, you've heard about what
Speaker 1: happened with Rachel and Nick, right, No, okay, so this
Speaker 1: is I think this is on the record, so this
Speaker 1: is real. Um, But Rachel inn Zy was a contestant
Speaker 1: and had gotten a fantasy suitet date and was was
Speaker 1: going to go the day after the two thousand sixteen election.
Speaker 1: So she was in a bar the night before her
Speaker 1: fantasy suite date watching the election and got trashed because
Speaker 1: Trump won and was devastated. So the next day was
Speaker 1: the fantasy sweet date. So if you watch her Fantasy
Speaker 1: sweet date, she kind of seems like very like dropped
Speaker 1: in and like sleepy and a little out of it
Speaker 1: because she is because she was hungover. Then she says
Speaker 1: that they went to the fantasy suite at her and
Speaker 1: Nick and she pretty much passed out right away and
Speaker 1: they hadn't gotten a chance to really talk. They definitely
Speaker 1: didn't have sex, and she kind of knew anyway that
Speaker 1: he was going to pick um Vanessa. So the next day,
Speaker 1: like when she gets cut, she was like upset because
Speaker 1: she didn't win. But you can kind of see when
Speaker 1: she gets cut, she's like, yeah, of course. Yeah. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite fantasy suite like behind the scene stories,
Speaker 1: it is apparently Rachel and hers had a list of
Speaker 1: questions to ask the guys remember this of like do
Speaker 1: you have debt um? You know, like like what is
Speaker 1: your thought on this one is your thought on that,
Speaker 1: and like asking them about like actually like how they are,
Speaker 1: because I mean, if you're going to marry someone, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna get engaged, like what if you canna engage
Speaker 1: someone and they go, oh, I'm five dollars in debt
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my fucking god. You know, Like well,
Speaker 1: also like you need to be asking about what they
Speaker 1: believe politically because you're not allowed to talk about it
Speaker 1: on the air, and they like because the producers aren't
Speaker 1: going to use it and it's wasting time, so you
Speaker 1: better believe the second that door is closed. One of
Speaker 1: my questions is like, Hi, what's what's the t on
Speaker 1: like your political beliefs? Because because you know that happened
Speaker 1: to Becca who chose Garret, who ended up being like
Speaker 1: what that means? They're still I feel like someone told
Speaker 1: that that was one of the questions that she asked,
Speaker 1: like who did you vote for? And stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I think also in Bachelor at New Zealand because I
Speaker 1: gotta watch every country's bachelotte franchise if you guys want
Speaker 1: to watch, We're watching New Zealand is great, but that one,
Speaker 1: like they'll be like, are you an anti vaxer like
Speaker 1: on the show because I mean New Zealand though that guy.
Speaker 1: But still it's like, stop bringing up being because I
Speaker 1: would hate to end up with a guy and he's like,
Speaker 1: we're not vaccinating our kids, Okay. I would be like, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's talks about climate change. They're actually seeing if you're compatible.
Speaker 1: So we caught up with Kayla and where she is,
Speaker 1: and she's was doing the equivalent of I'm living my
Speaker 1: best life, like I moved to New York. I became
Speaker 1: a fashion blogger. It's really important work. Um, and you're
Speaker 1: like a lifestyle blogger because it's really important work. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, is it like and that's the thing, like
Speaker 1: and then she's she got engaged to this guy. Hot
Speaker 1: guy though was hot. He seemed nice. Yeah, he did
Speaker 1: seem nice. But but she she got what she wanted
Speaker 1: with with what Mamoi singer, like, she wasn't gonna sell
Speaker 1: software for the rest of her Like now she's probably
Speaker 1: genuinely happy, like blogging about she lives in New York,
Speaker 1: she has a husband, she like got to talk about
Speaker 1: stuff that she wants to talk about. She probably has
Speaker 1: a loyal following because she came off really well on
Speaker 1: the show's free Ship. I bet she gets free Ship
Speaker 1: up the butt. Yeah. Um, okay, before we get to
Speaker 1: Lauren B and Joe Joe, we're gonna take one more break.
Speaker 1: What is your fantasy? You? Hi? Everybody? All right, So
Speaker 1: we're doing Lauren B. So we're down to the final two.
Speaker 1: Lauren b. Um, he said this and this to answer
Speaker 1: your question, Bowen, I feel like a little schoolboy trying
Speaker 1: to chase after his crush. That to me, he kept
Speaker 1: he couldn't believe he got her for whatever reason. She
Speaker 1: I think partially because she's a little dull. So there
Speaker 1: was like I think sometimes when like I've done this
Speaker 1: where somebody who was dull, I kept thinking, Oh, they're
Speaker 1: just shy. They're just shy, and so you fabricate them.
Speaker 1: And I think he made her the girl he couldn't
Speaker 1: get and the guy inside of him that like I
Speaker 1: thought he wasn't lovable. I think this was it, Like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel okay, so there. I remember them releasing
Speaker 1: these little turtles, which was so fucking cute, and like
Speaker 1: it's funny hearing her talking now about herself then like
Speaker 1: it's I feel that she's she's like, I like the
Speaker 1: simple things, like my dad. He's obsessed with this yard
Speaker 1: and like like, oh my god, and they were so
Speaker 1: basic and this hearing and like so we took her
Speaker 1: on a drive and the Zeo Hotel used to be
Speaker 1: a movie theater and this's where he got his first
Speaker 1: kiss and he didn't know how to make the move
Speaker 1: and he recreated it. And then she's like, and I
Speaker 1: remember them doing this a lot, like I think you're
Speaker 1: my person. I can't. She's like, I'm in love with Ben,
Speaker 1: not Ben the Bachelor. I'm in love with Ben from
Speaker 1: Warsaw Indiana. I love Ben. I'm completely in love with you.
Speaker 1: And I remember like being happy for him. And then
Speaker 1: we watched there was like a show after this, like
Speaker 1: of them as New Louis, and she hated him so
Speaker 1: fucking and she just was she wanted like I think
Speaker 1: she was so disappointed by the reality of like a
Speaker 1: small house in Denver and not being like like remember that, Katie,
Speaker 1: And do you hated Do you remember there was an
Speaker 1: entire episode we watched this whole fucking thing because it
Speaker 1: was terrible. There was a whole episode where he wanted
Speaker 1: to use an old garage door as a headboard from
Speaker 1: like his first house, and the whole episode was about
Speaker 1: how she was just like absolutely way and then and
Speaker 1: then she really was a BC had offered for them
Speaker 1: to get married on TV, and like she really wanted to.
Speaker 1: He was like, I don't really, even though now he's
Speaker 1: kind of like Ulee in on the franchise and like
Speaker 1: that's it's just interesting how like she wanted the cameras rolling,
Speaker 1: she wanted a helicopter, she married a country country star. Like,
Speaker 1: but just seeing the beginning of this, it's like, I
Speaker 1: just like Ben from Indiana, I like simple things. It
Speaker 1: was weird because like the conversations that they would have
Speaker 1: were so cringe. And then when he would talk to
Speaker 1: Jojo or hang out with Jojo, or like that moment
Speaker 1: when she made him come into the bathroom with her
Speaker 1: and like have a real conversation with there, I was like,
Speaker 1: it seems like you have some real rapport with this girl,
Speaker 1: and she seems to be the one that is actually
Speaker 1: it's something is happening between you and her. And when
Speaker 1: he dumped her, you could see in his eyes like
Speaker 1: he knew he had made a huge mistake. I mean there,
Speaker 1: I think immediately it was terrible. Oh okay, watching their date,
Speaker 1: their Wrigley Field date was so cute, watching her do
Speaker 1: their little like a book of like her being a
Speaker 1: house flipper, and like trying to tell her, like what
Speaker 1: they were so cute together and that she was such
Speaker 1: a and just even their chemistry, like them in the
Speaker 1: under the waterfall. Then making out like when she when
Speaker 1: she came in with the horse's head on her head,
Speaker 1: I was like, I like her. She's stupid. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: unicord she she had a little like she had a
Speaker 1: little pepper and her pot. Yeah, she was like stupid
Speaker 1: in a fun way that I connect with me too,
Speaker 1: and wear a horse's head on my head and be
Speaker 1: like nay, anyway, see you later. And then like she
Speaker 1: did it and like he when when she said, I
Speaker 1: I've been trying to not say this, but like I
Speaker 1: am falling. I was falling in love with you, and
Speaker 1: now I can actually say I am in love with you,
Speaker 1: and he goes, jojo, I love you too, And look
Speaker 1: at her little face when she says, what you do.
Speaker 1: It was so cute. It was hopeful, and then finding
Speaker 1: out like it was she was very honest. I felt
Speaker 1: like in her interview because I feel like a lot
Speaker 1: of these people now after the factor, now with somebody
Speaker 1: else and there, so there's are weird about it, like
Speaker 1: getting interviewed, they're like no, no, I mean it's fine,
Speaker 1: And I feel like she was like when she had
Speaker 1: the next date with him and he said he was conflicted,
Speaker 1: and she found out that he also said it to
Speaker 1: This was the big controversies. He said he's the first
Speaker 1: one to say I'm in love with you to two
Speaker 1: women too, and that she felt like she'd been cheated on.
Speaker 1: I don't blame her. I felt so bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't. Here's the thing. It's like, when I was
Speaker 1: watching it, I was like, so, there's a world where
Speaker 1: you know, all these women are in the house together
Speaker 1: this whole time, so they really know each other better
Speaker 1: than they know him. Yes, when is it going to
Speaker 1: happen that he can't decide between the two of them
Speaker 1: because he's legit in love with both of them And
Speaker 1: they're like, we'll be together and the three of them
Speaker 1: all just go off and live polly existence. And I
Speaker 1: personally would be in support of it, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I mean I except for I wouldn't want Jojo to
Speaker 1: be stuck with Laura Lauren. No, I mean, ultimately, Jojo
Speaker 1: can do better, and I'd be fine with that. That um,
Speaker 1: I just when he she they let her give the
Speaker 1: like at the actual proposal, she gave the longest speech
Speaker 1: and they let her the entire speech, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I love you, I love you with my whole heart,
Speaker 1: I trust you. And then when he goes I it
Speaker 1: was it sucked. And then you'll notice that on her
Speaker 1: season when she was the bachelorette, she did not allow
Speaker 1: that she like like he started talking, she was like, stop, yes,
Speaker 1: because she's a kind person. I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: have to say. He clearly was in love with Jojo,
Speaker 1: but he wanted to pick the girl he couldn't believe
Speaker 1: he got, and I would imagine for he and Lauren
Speaker 1: it was probably hard to get past like he was
Speaker 1: gooded watching how he felt when Jojo walked, what it
Speaker 1: was like, he clearly, I agree with you. He knew
Speaker 1: he made a mistake. He loved her, they were happy together,
Speaker 1: they were so cute. He wasn't emotionally intelligent enough to
Speaker 1: understand what he had just done, but I think he
Speaker 1: knew enough to know that he had felt great despair
Speaker 1: because even when he was then like you would think
Speaker 1: would be this thing where it would be really hard
Speaker 1: to say goodbye to the runner up, but you would
Speaker 1: then have a second win because you know you're going
Speaker 1: to like start your life with the winner who actually
Speaker 1: are in love with. But he is he it looked
Speaker 1: like never got over doing that to her. He looked
Speaker 1: fucked up from it. He really like fucked up from it.
Speaker 1: And and I felt watching her get interviewed from her
Speaker 1: everybody's backdrop looks the same, but her house looks the
Speaker 1: grandest of everybody. She has a house. She's got a
Speaker 1: huge house. She was a lead, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: She probably has bachelorette money, has real endorsement money. And
Speaker 1: she's also so half Persian, comes from some money. I've
Speaker 1: seen her. All Persians know where other people's Persian money
Speaker 1: comes from. We're all aware. I love too that there's
Speaker 1: I also like that they actually had they had a
Speaker 1: Persian baslorette and never really that was huge for me,
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, he was white passing, and
Speaker 1: they that they at the time probably felt nervous about
Speaker 1: saying she was because like you'd be shocked, like like
Speaker 1: I'll mention that I have Iranian friends to like basic
Speaker 1: white older people, and they were like what, Like, it's
Speaker 1: like it's like a crazy thing to them to even
Speaker 1: mention the word Iran because they're in their imagination it's
Speaker 1: like a brown person who like is flinging spices at
Speaker 1: you and ship. The most racist conception of it was
Speaker 1: funny because when they went to her hometown in her
Speaker 1: season or no, I guess it was this season, her
Speaker 1: mom was just like her Persian assue. Mom kept like
Speaker 1: she's a princess. It's like she was just chucky Champagne
Speaker 1: did like a coin, just drinking champagne straight from the bottle.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is every family member I've
Speaker 1: ever had, just like well, like man home, her brothers ran.
Speaker 1: They were a giant cowl next sweaters and they kissed
Speaker 1: her on the mouth, and we're like rude to him.
Speaker 1: They both they kissed, they both kissed her right on
Speaker 1: the lips and then were immediately awful to him. So
Speaker 1: it's also come to a real season where it's fun. No,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I was, are you going to do
Speaker 1: the Rachel's season? Yeah? Do you want to? I mean
Speaker 1: this one? Yeah? You want to do it, I'll be back. Okay.
Speaker 1: Do you want to do the Rachel season? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: what are they hearing that? Couples not next week? They're
Speaker 1: probably interested in having other guests, so are you and
Speaker 1: do the Rachel's season. We would love to have you
Speaker 1: for the Rachel's season. Bowen, you don't have to, but
Speaker 1: we would love to have you again. But if you
Speaker 1: if you can't handle it, I understand. If you can't
Speaker 1: handle another doing, I get it. I'll just know that
Speaker 1: I am going to watch that in two weeks when
Speaker 1: it happens. Yes, yes, we want you for whenever the
Speaker 1: Rachel as soon as we know when the Rachel one is,
Speaker 1: it's yours okay, and you'll either be with Bowen or
Speaker 1: somebody else depending on a bow Okay. So then um, Lauren?
Speaker 1: So then so then he cuts Joe Joe and he said, um,
Speaker 1: I love Lauren, but I could have been very I
Speaker 1: could have been married. I could When Lauren saw that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she says he's the last first kiss I
Speaker 1: ever wanted to have. Your made, Harrison, I love you,
Speaker 1: And then they got engaged. Last week, they didn't even
Speaker 1: show Caitlin's getting proposed to by Sean, Like, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: they showed all of this, and then we see him
Speaker 1: now and he's got his huge young lady that he
Speaker 1: slid into her d MS and she's twenty five and
Speaker 1: they're very cute. We found out that they don't sleep
Speaker 1: into they're staving each other for marriage, and they don't
Speaker 1: share a bed allegedly. Jesus, this is so antiquated, Like
Speaker 1: it's just so crazy. It's like, I really I'm happy
Speaker 1: that the Bachelor fantrase is finally like having a person
Speaker 1: of color lead, But can we please like get a
Speaker 1: interesting lead, like like Rachel Lindsay was a dynamic person
Speaker 1: and you find out ever since her season ended, like
Speaker 1: she's even better than she was on the season. Actually,
Speaker 1: so let's just like shake it up, Like was great,
Speaker 1: Caitlin was great. Give us Matt James looks really fucking hot,
Speaker 1: Like he's he's certainly hot. He's so hot. I'm from James.
Speaker 1: I think Claire kind of sucks. We're going to have
Speaker 1: to get through Claire's season. Oh, I think she asked
Speaker 1: first that she's thirty nine. That's exciting. I love, but
Speaker 1: I wink they chose a cooler one. But I do
Speaker 1: think I think she's like at this point ever since
Speaker 1: seeing her again on Winner Games where she got in
Speaker 1: to a fight with a German guy about the hot
Speaker 1: tub appointment for a hot tub that she didn't make,
Speaker 1: and he was he's very German and he was very
Speaker 1: upset by it because Germans take everything so literally. But
Speaker 1: pub and you miss it. You have appointment with the
Speaker 1: hot pub. You must be there for the appointment for
Speaker 1: the hot pub. It was unreal. I will send you
Speaker 1: guys a link to the clip. I think like her
Speaker 1: energy of like what are you fucking talking about? Like,
Speaker 1: I like that she brings that sort of no nonsense energy,
Speaker 1: and so I think she'll be good on this show
Speaker 1: where these dudes who are at this point may not
Speaker 1: get a paradise so they're like, you know, if you're
Speaker 1: not going to win her heart, like what are you
Speaker 1: really doing on there if you don't have a reason
Speaker 1: to try and get Instagram followers. So I think it'll
Speaker 1: be an interesting season with her. It's just I mean
Speaker 1: that only they've had some moments where like like I
Speaker 1: guess like they think they've had like a hashtag girl
Speaker 1: boss moment, like when Hannah was like, I fucked in
Speaker 1: a windmill. Like like when she finally took her space
Speaker 1: and said that she sucked Peter four times on the windmill,
Speaker 1: that was kind of cool. Like that she had like
Speaker 1: a misogynist guy in the house. That was like, if
Speaker 1: you've had such with any other guys, like, let me
Speaker 1: know now, And she was like, I absolutely have an
Speaker 1: ey would again and again and again. I loved that. Um,
Speaker 1: but girls are more fun though it's more far from
Speaker 1: the women and also sort of fun because the guys.
Speaker 1: There's weird bromances in the house like that, guys really
Speaker 1: fall for each other. I think that I think Bachelor's
Speaker 1: more fun than the Bachelor. I would agree. Um, will
Speaker 1: you help us pick a tweet of the week? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: So what we're here's the name of the game. I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you five or six tweets, We're going
Speaker 1: to narrow it down to two, and then we're going
Speaker 1: to pick the number one. Okay, okay. This is from
Speaker 1: Chaz at Thorium Dragon. Going from Van Hippie to Beauty
Speaker 1: Queen is a lifetime movie. Going from Beauty Queen to
Speaker 1: Van Hippie is a cry for help. That's Honny. That's Monny. Okay.
Speaker 1: This is from I don't know who it's from. I'll
Speaker 1: find out later. Biggest boner in Batch history been not
Speaker 1: picking Jojo or that waterfall scene. Look at his bonera.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have to see this here. I'll
Speaker 1: text it to you guys as well. Honestly I get
Speaker 1: it though he's probably horned up and honestly like she
Speaker 1: was hot in the bikini. He was so hot. That's
Speaker 1: the thing too. That was Jojo, right, that was Jojo.
Speaker 1: She to me, she was like, way, way, way, way
Speaker 1: more desirable than anyone else. She's so hot in the
Speaker 1: top section. It's like that. I mean, she obviously was
Speaker 1: the pick for me. Nanna, who did that? It's from
Speaker 1: Bachelor archive. Oh that's exciting. Okay, Um, this is from
Speaker 1: Liz You guys, do you guys see it in your
Speaker 1: did she text? Here? We go number three? Liz too.
Speaker 1: Don't go a Jizzy Lizzie. Their apps? Does any woman
Speaker 1: who's been on the show not have Instagram face? Now? Wow? Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're all clocking the same we're all clocking the
Speaker 1: same day. This is also from Jessy Lizzie Raps would
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Speaker 1: this is uh Anna, you're gonna have to tell me
Speaker 1: who this is from. Ben looks like he's about to
Speaker 1: ring some doorbells and tell people about Joseph Smithy. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna narrow it down to um, let's see
Speaker 1: what do we enjoy be like bone Er? Do we
Speaker 1: like Van Hippie? I like Van Hippie. I like Van
Speaker 1: Hippie and Boner. I think those are the two. Or
Speaker 1: faith Instagram face will go Van Hippi and Boner. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Van Hippy to Beauty Queen is a lifetime movie. Going
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Speaker 1: So this is from Bachelor archive. Biggest bon or in
Speaker 1: Batch history? Been not picking Jojo or that waterfall scene.
Speaker 1: Do we want biggest boner in history? Or do we
Speaker 1: want Van Hippie Bowe and Van Hippie or Boner Van Hippie.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna also go Van Hippie. Um, we'll go. We'll
Speaker 1: let Matt be the decider or do you want to
Speaker 1: go first? Matt? Matt you go? I mean I was
Speaker 1: going to pick the Boner one because I feel like
Speaker 1: I feel like I really just want this show to
Speaker 1: sort of get to it and became imporn. So this
Speaker 1: is the closest way about it has. But I appreciate
Speaker 1: that you guys like the comedy of Van Hippie, Katie,
Speaker 1: Van Hippie or Bone or Bonner. You know, I'm always
Speaker 1: a family. We can see their boners, Katie to see
Speaker 1: I mean, I want I want the gratification. Okay, Anna,
Speaker 1: So that's a time We've got two for bon or
Speaker 1: two for Van Hippy. Anna. Oh, I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Boner because it's so funny to me, like, alright,
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Speaker 1: from M d M D M d M. I'm from
Speaker 1: Iran and I find the culture of the Bachelor somewhat confused,
Speaker 1: saying there are so many moments when I'm thinking this
Speaker 1: can't be real life. This sounds so scripted. Then again,
Speaker 1: as an outsider, I can't be sure, but your podcast
Speaker 1: has provided me a window into unfiltered and authentic thoughts
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Speaker 1: interesting groups of people together to discuss the episodes. And
Speaker 1: I love to hear all the different perspectives, specifically Jerry Trainers,
Speaker 1: who first impressions of The Bachelor echoes a lot of mine.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't lose sleep over missing the show itself, but
Speaker 1: I stay up to listen to your podcast. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. Anna, I mean Anna from Iran? Did you
Speaker 1: know that her parents are Iranian? Or do you know that?
Speaker 1: Did you? When you watch The Bachelor, Anna, are you
Speaker 1: like when you first watched it when you were younger?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you grew up in the U S.
Speaker 1: But did you did you find anything that I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is this? This seemed like did it? Was there
Speaker 1: any a of a culture shock or anything versus the
Speaker 1: world you've grown up in. I mean I knew, like
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is not this is
Speaker 1: the American way of like dating like in Iran. It's
Speaker 1: so much. It's so different how you like get together
Speaker 1: with a guy. I mean, I think it's a little
Speaker 1: bit more um the younger you are, like the generations,
Speaker 1: it's more maybe a little bit closer to what we
Speaker 1: do in America. But for the most part, like you
Speaker 1: basically your parents meet you. You can't date an Iran
Speaker 1: is the situation. So you would never see something like this,
Speaker 1: And so like growing up, what would your cousins think
Speaker 1: of this show? I mean they would watch it because
Speaker 1: you know, westernized culture is big there, but like it's
Speaker 1: you wouldn't ever think like I could go on a
Speaker 1: show like that, Like it's not I would never in
Speaker 1: my life think that I could go on a show
Speaker 1: like that because one of my parents would kill me.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, no, absolutely not. You can't date a
Speaker 1: guy who's dating all these women. Also, like you can't
Speaker 1: be showing that much skin on TV, and oh god,
Speaker 1: you can't be like putting yourself out there. Someone's going
Speaker 1: to turn the evil eye on you because you're not
Speaker 1: being humble enough. And you're like, oh my god, there's
Speaker 1: so much going on, like culturally not possible, turney, but
Speaker 1: I have in when I've been in Iran, I'll watch
Speaker 1: like Turkish programming and they have like in Turkey, it's
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, it's a lot more westernized, or
Speaker 1: at least it used to before Dagon but um or
Speaker 1: urda Wan but um, Yeah, they have like Turkish dating
Speaker 1: shows like this that I would watch because there's like
Speaker 1: nothing else on that I could watch. I being okay,
Speaker 1: well they're they seem to be doing it where all
Speaker 1: the women and men live in a house together and
Speaker 1: like date each other. And that's like even wilder to
Speaker 1: me because it's in Turkey. But yeah, not not commonplace
Speaker 1: in Iranian culture. I love that we can help you
Speaker 1: a window, if it makes you feel any better. I
Speaker 1: grew up here, and uh, I grew up and I'm
Speaker 1: my I think I'm like my great grandparents were sort
Speaker 1: of like I'm like third Like I still can't even imagine.
Speaker 1: There is no part of my upbringing. I cannot imagine
Speaker 1: ever fitting in at the mansions I have. I have
Speaker 1: fantasies of cloning myself and trying to like put myself
Speaker 1: through the experience of it as like a social science experiment,
Speaker 1: but there I so don't. It is so far removed
Speaker 1: from the world that I personally grew up in I
Speaker 1: cannot imagine anything more. I mean, I'm just new ladies
Speaker 1: who cleared acres of brush with their bare hands and
Speaker 1: drove tractors and uh, you know, just wore chapstick and
Speaker 1: dungarees and so it's a different world. But it's so
Speaker 1: fun and we're so glad you're here. So thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool to know there's another Iranian listening. All right,
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