Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to a Bacher happy hour.
Speaker 2: I am Joe and I am Serena.
Speaker 1: And we are here with none other than Sondra from
Speaker 1: the Golden Bacher. Sondra, how the fuck are you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: You know I had to leave with the fuck just
Speaker 1: because I know that your think, well, yeah.
Speaker 2: Just own that. It's okay, we love it. Okay, Hey Joe, Hi, Hi,
Speaker 2: how are you doing today?
Speaker 3: I'm doing pretty dog one good.
Speaker 4: How have you been feeling with all this craziness in
Speaker 4: your face on TV everywhere?
Speaker 3: I've been feeling great, you know, a little pumped. And
Speaker 3: my friends tell me we don't see enough of you,
Speaker 3: and I say, hey, it's a forty minute show. There's
Speaker 3: a lot going on besides me.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well what we do see, I think is
Speaker 1: everyone everyone has falling in love with you. We saw
Speaker 1: you play pickleball and you're flying around the court. We
Speaker 1: see you walk in you you're swearing at Gary, but
Speaker 1: you make it fun. I'm talking about out of the
Speaker 1: out of the limo. Out of the limo is I
Speaker 1: have to ask you swearing does that help you calm
Speaker 1: your nerves? Because it does help me.
Speaker 3: Well, since Mike stepping out of a Limo No, but
Speaker 3: before that, yes, okay.
Speaker 2: Okay, what changed?
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. I you know, what I'm finding
Speaker 3: out is that the younger generation. You know, my oldest
Speaker 3: is fifty, but that's a young generation for me, and
Speaker 3: young folks loved my Limo exit folks more my generation
Speaker 3: Mike demographic were a little skeptical about that. So that
Speaker 3: seems to be the feedback I'm getting.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, there's actually scientific SETI is that
Speaker 4: prove that swearing has like an effect on the brain,
Speaker 4: like some sort of like chemical release or release of energy.
Speaker 2: That is I'm serious, not I'm not just liken't me
Speaker 2: like I'm crazy.
Speaker 4: There's something that's proven that like swearing releases I don't
Speaker 4: know what it is exactly, but like endorphins are something
Speaker 4: that like actually helps you calm down, or like it
Speaker 4: provides like a release of energy that helps you calm down.
Speaker 4: That's why people like swear when they like stub their
Speaker 4: toe or something, or like they're frustrated. There's like an
Speaker 4: actual reason for it, so you can tell you can
Speaker 4: tell your friends that.
Speaker 3: Oh and that's a good one, thank you, Serena. However,
Speaker 3: is that you know there are a lot of swear
Speaker 3: words out there, and the AF isn't necessarily America's choice
Speaker 3: or older America's choice.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so maybe if it was a different swear word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's okay.
Speaker 4: I feel like you came out and you you surprise people.
Speaker 4: Whether it was a good way or a bad way,
Speaker 4: you got their attention. You definitely got Gary's attention because
Speaker 4: we've seen you through this journey and that's all that matters.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: You know, here's the thing. I look like a school
Speaker 3: teacher ish and a librarian, so people don't expect me
Speaker 3: to spew a word like that. So it has its
Speaker 3: shock value, and I guess it worked.
Speaker 1: It definitely it worked. We we know. I've heard you're
Speaker 1: a you're a big football fan. Do you did you
Speaker 1: happen to see Stephen A. Smith talking about talking about Sondra?
Speaker 1: Did you see that?
Speaker 3: I did see that, And of course I saw Stephen A.
Speaker 3: Smith and I saw that. Now he was all over
Speaker 3: in Natasha and he got my age wrong, but at
Speaker 3: least he got me, you know.
Speaker 1: He got your you're in there. I think he said.
Speaker 1: I think he said Sondra could get it. I think
Speaker 1: that's what he.
Speaker 2: Said, really, I didn't see this. That's so cool. He's
Speaker 2: a he's a football player.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's an analyt. What what what is your
Speaker 1: Do you have an NFL team?
Speaker 3: No, I have thirty two teams.
Speaker 1: Okay, all the team, isn't it?
Speaker 3: I have a league. I always say I have a league.
Speaker 1: Interesting, who's your who's your favor who's your favorite player
Speaker 1: in the league? You got a player.
Speaker 3: I enjoy watching Mahomes. I watched the I like watching
Speaker 3: the connection between him and Kelsey. You know, and in
Speaker 3: the past there have been a lot of quarterback tight
Speaker 3: end relationships that have made me feel good about the sport.
Speaker 3: You know that the connection they have.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about Travis Kelsey dating Taylor Sweft?
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: That's what's running minimama.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, it's fun. People are fun with it,
Speaker 3: and they are having fun with it, whether they admit
Speaker 3: it or not. I you know, America is always looking
Speaker 3: for love and romance, and and when you've got two
Speaker 3: heroes like that, one hero and one hero, you know,
Speaker 3: it makes for good feeling.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, what were you married to an NFL player
Speaker 1: at one point in your life? I was, Okay, who.
Speaker 3: His name is Lindsay Mason. Okay, a left tackle for
Speaker 3: the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 2: Okay, wow, how did you to meet?
Speaker 3: We actually met at a racquetball court and he and
Speaker 3: some of his co workers were playing slash practicing and
Speaker 3: I was playing and somehow we bumped into each other
Speaker 3: in the corridor and started chatting. And I'll tell you
Speaker 3: how I got hooked on this game because he invited
Speaker 3: me to watch him at a game. And I knew
Speaker 3: a little something about football, you know what I learned
Speaker 3: in high school going to games and cheerleading. But so
Speaker 3: invited me to a game, and then after the game,
Speaker 3: I said, tell me what you do out there? What
Speaker 3: is your role? And he started explaining to me he's
Speaker 3: a tackle, an offensive tackle. That means that he does
Speaker 3: pass protection and run blocking. So then I said, okay,
Speaker 3: explain that. And little by little, I was getting tutorials
Speaker 3: on Monday nights when he wasn't working. And back then
Speaker 3: they only had Sunday and Monday night football, so that
Speaker 3: was my tutorial time. And I got all the x's
Speaker 3: and o's and I was fascinated. I just grabbed me
Speaker 3: and there was always something to learn. Even to this day,
Speaker 3: there is something to learn about this game that I
Speaker 3: didn't know the game before, and I don't know. My
Speaker 3: mind just sucks it up. The last thing I googled
Speaker 3: here was the the NFL rule changes changes for this season. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so there's.
Speaker 1: Some always changing something. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have to because they've got a product to
Speaker 3: protect and it's the players.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like my issue getting into football is that
Speaker 4: I just don't understand what's happening most of the time.
Speaker 2: So it's so I need to come watch it with you,
Speaker 2: and you can.
Speaker 3: Say, if you had some instruction, you might get engaged,
Speaker 3: you might really understand. It's about real estate, you know,
Speaker 3: getting down and scoring on someone else's real estates. But Serenay, honey,
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you off camber here and get you
Speaker 3: started if you like.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it well, Sondra, you know what, in
Speaker 1: my defense, I have football on. It's on the TV
Speaker 1: Saturday morning at ten am, and it doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: go off the TV till Sunday night at at ten pm.
Speaker 1: And Serena, you know what she does, She goes in
Speaker 1: the other room.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've tried a little bit with you and me, Joe.
Speaker 3: I know because I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let's let's you You were single for twenty
Speaker 1: nine years? Is that correct?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about that in terms of
Speaker 1: in terms of why why were you single? Were you?
Speaker 1: Did you within those twenty nine years? Did you really
Speaker 1: did you date it all? Or were you just kind
Speaker 1: of over it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Single meaning I wasn't married? Oh right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I dated, of course. Oh. Let me tell you guys, Yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah dated.
Speaker 1: I have.
Speaker 3: Double dated, I have blind dated, I have always speed dated,
Speaker 3: I have online dated, and now i've TV dated.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, What has been your favorite? What would you suggest?
Speaker 3: Well, all of them, because I think you know, they're
Speaker 3: all valuable in trying to find the right person, you know,
Speaker 3: and if one doesn't work, keep going. And I would
Speaker 3: blind date again, I would double date again. I would
Speaker 3: do all of those, you know, in my pursuit. Now,
Speaker 3: this is not something that happens every weekend, every week,
Speaker 3: you know, especially since it's football season, but even otherwise,
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I'm not out there trying to
Speaker 3: be mister goodbar, but but I know that I want
Speaker 3: a companion in my life and my oasis. I want
Speaker 3: to be his oasis and it's important my kids want
Speaker 3: me to do so.
Speaker 1: So Saja, we know it doesn't work out with Gary,
Speaker 1: but we don't know if there is going to be
Speaker 1: a Golden Bachelorette. If there is, is that something that
Speaker 1: you are intrigued you would you like to be the
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 3: I would do it tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Really, Okay?
Speaker 3: Why because they're motivated like I I want to I
Speaker 3: want to mister Wright in my life. I want I
Speaker 3: don't want to just date. I want a a committed, serious,
Speaker 3: let's have fun in our golden years relationship. It's important,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: And if you no, go ahead yourself.
Speaker 3: Going to say, I think I'm still viable and I
Speaker 3: have energy, and I have desire, and I there's things
Speaker 3: to do in life and with someone like watch football,
Speaker 3: but other things as well, other activities. Yeah, I'm motivated. Guys,
Speaker 3: can you tell you're honestly?
Speaker 1: You're you are? You are the definition of seventy five
Speaker 1: years young and what we saw like honestly, we are
Speaker 1: watching you playing pickleball and just on this show in general,
Speaker 1: and you look like you would have changed what I
Speaker 1: pictured as a seventy five year old person like you. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you look great, you move you It's just it's it's incredible.
Speaker 1: And you were literally the one person on the pickleball
Speaker 1: court flying around.
Speaker 3: Thank you, true you were.
Speaker 4: We saw you dive into the crowd and hit the bolla.
Speaker 2: Joe I was like, how old is Sodra. I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: You know, we look at all the ages in the
Speaker 4: first episode, but then we kind of forgot as this
Speaker 4: season went on and he was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: Srina Sodra is seventy five.
Speaker 2: I was like, no way, no, she's not. You like,
Speaker 2: what is your secret?
Speaker 4: What do you like for aging screens outside on the outside?
Speaker 2: We want to know all the secrets.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, first of all, I liked the game of pickball.
Speaker 3: I've never played it before, but I was intrigued about it.
Speaker 3: So I got some instructions from Joey, kind of one
Speaker 3: on one how to hold that racket? You know what
Speaker 3: exactly is the endeavor? Here? Give me my give me
Speaker 3: my parameters. But but I I've always been athletic. Doesn't
Speaker 3: mean I've had athleticism, but I've always had that desire
Speaker 3: to to play some kind of sport, and I used
Speaker 3: to play racketball, so kind of familiarity with the walls,
Speaker 3: of course, but so I'm competitive sports wise, so and
Speaker 3: so the pickleball was Yeah, I was probably the only
Speaker 3: one flying around because I wanted to win that dog
Speaker 3: on contest. I really did.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your nightcare routine?
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, I just wash up, take the day off,
Speaker 3: and I have a moisturizer that I use. You know,
Speaker 3: I think, here, you guys, let me tell you what
Speaker 3: I think is the reason that my skin responds so
Speaker 3: well to Mother nature and almost one. I don't drink alcohol.
Speaker 3: Now that's going to turn a lot of people off.
Speaker 3: Doesn't mean you can't drink alcohol. I never I think
Speaker 3: it's a wholesome thing for people to do, but I
Speaker 3: never acquired the taste. But I think in the long
Speaker 3: run it has made a difference. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't live in the sun. You know. I'm one of
Speaker 3: those ladies that's in the shade. If I'm out in
Speaker 3: the sun and the heat, I'll find shade because I
Speaker 3: know that sun is damaging. And I also am always
Speaker 3: wearing an SPF fifty or higher. Just you know, and
Speaker 3: I'm bother words, I'm fighting, mister son, I really am.
Speaker 3: And then other than that, my mom looked young when
Speaker 3: she was my well, she didn't live to my age,
Speaker 3: but when she was an older lady, when she was
Speaker 3: in her golden year, she she looked younger. I thought
Speaker 3: she did. And so I'm guessing that's it. I get.
Speaker 3: I do have an aesthetician and she kind of gives
Speaker 3: me some treatments on my skin. You know, I see
Speaker 3: her walk every three months. But you know, nothing miraculous,
Speaker 3: you guys, It's just it's just.
Speaker 2: Sondra.
Speaker 4: I wear sunscreen every day and I'm brown, so obviously
Speaker 4: don't really burn. It's just to protect my skin. I
Speaker 4: tell Joe he's Joe never wears sunscreen. I'm rearing senstry
Speaker 4: right now. I'm in the house. I have sunscreen on
Speaker 4: every single morning. Joe is a white man, and he
Speaker 4: could use the sunscreen because his cheeks get burnt, and
Speaker 4: he never ever wears it because he likes to get tan.
Speaker 4: And I always tell him he's so big on all
Speaker 4: of this stuff for anti aging in terms of yeah,
Speaker 4: he knows he has good skincare, but he's like into
Speaker 4: cold plunges and you know, fasting and sunlight in the
Speaker 4: mornings and all of this stuff.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but what you're missing is the sun screen.
Speaker 1: I love to get a little I love, I love,
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 3: That's fine, Joe for now, because you're cutie. But you
Speaker 3: two are seventy five or whatever age. You know, Serena
Speaker 3: is gonna be hot and you're gonna be not hot.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, Talo, Sandra, how about how about exercise, Sondra?
Speaker 1: Do you exercise regularly?
Speaker 3: I do. I have Silver Sneakers classes twice a week,
Speaker 3: and then at home here I have a treadmill. And
Speaker 3: so when I'm watching my other love, which is Wheel
Speaker 3: of Fortune, I'm on the treadmill.
Speaker 1: You've been on Wheel of Fortune, and.
Speaker 3: I've been hooked. I've been hooked for well, they've been
Speaker 3: on for forty forty one. Season's just about and I
Speaker 3: was hooked from day one, just like I was hooked
Speaker 3: on football, fascinated with it.
Speaker 1: And so my my mother's really goes. She's like every
Speaker 1: time Wheel of Fortune she guesses it immediately. Did you
Speaker 1: how far did you go? Did you win?
Speaker 3: I won a little over thirty one. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: and that was in nineteen eighty eight. That was a
Speaker 3: lot of money back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what did you enjoy more? Wheel of Fortune
Speaker 4: or being on the Golden Bachelor?
Speaker 3: You know, I think that what I call the GB.
Speaker 3: I think the GB because more you know, meeting women
Speaker 3: and the whole living away from home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: You know, just being a longer, more intense process. The
Speaker 3: Wheel was well several years of being focused and being
Speaker 3: a student, but one day of shoot.
Speaker 2: So you know a little bit of a shorter adventure.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I've also I was also on the the newlyweb
Speaker 3: game a gazillion years ago.
Speaker 4: Okay, Wowsadra is an experienced reality TV contested.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's been so many gaps between that. Who knows,
Speaker 3: maybe another ten fifteen years I'll be on another game show.
Speaker 1: Or so is there is there is there a game
Speaker 1: show that you would love to do or a reality
Speaker 1: show that you watch and go, oh that would be
Speaker 1: that would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Yes, I would love to go on the Wheel of
Speaker 3: Fortune again. And I would love to go on this
Speaker 3: Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Well, they're back to back, aren't they live?
Speaker 2: Like is it?
Speaker 4: Wheel of Fortune is on because I feel like whenever
Speaker 4: we used to watch the show live, we would catch
Speaker 4: the end of Wheel of Fortune. So you can go
Speaker 4: do Wheel of Fortune and it could be Sondra's episode,
Speaker 4: and then the next can be the premiere of Sondra's
Speaker 4: season of The Golden Baucherrett.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 3: But in my market, there there's a half an hour between,
Speaker 3: and that's fine. That gives me time to prep okay
Speaker 3: for watching the GB.
Speaker 4: So yes, refresh your mocktail, get a snack, and then
Speaker 4: settle in.
Speaker 1: And you you live, you live in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: I live in one of the those communities in it. Okay,
Speaker 3: but everybody says that land.
Speaker 1: Okay, have you are you? Have you lived in Atlanta
Speaker 1: your whole life?
Speaker 4: Or that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: You know interesting.
Speaker 3: I was born here in Atlanta, but I was raised
Speaker 3: in San Francisco. I moved back here about twenty two
Speaker 3: years ago.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, do you miss San Francisco.
Speaker 3: I visit. I go back and visit it. It's changed dramatically,
Speaker 3: of course. And yeah, and my my children live in
Speaker 3: southern cows so and I but I have friends in
Speaker 3: the Bay Area, so I have reason to go and visit. Obviously,
Speaker 3: college mates, you know, Yeah, my heart is still there.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're thinking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what. That's what. That's what I was.
Speaker 3: I left part of it there, your heart in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's let's go a little bit. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the show. Let's bring it to the show. Let's
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Gary. So you get out
Speaker 1: of the limo, you make Gary laugh. You know, it's
Speaker 1: your first time on the Bachelor, at the Bachelor. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on Gary when you first meet him?
Speaker 3: Well, he looked very much like he did on Good
Speaker 3: Morning America when they introduced him on July seventeenth. You see,
Speaker 3: I remember that and just in real life, and of
Speaker 3: course my hands were probably shaking, and but it was,
Speaker 3: you know, the whole the whole process was intriguing to me.
Speaker 3: And of course Gary was too. He was the object
Speaker 3: there and and he's a good.
Speaker 2: Looking gent Is he your typical type? Like do you
Speaker 2: have a type?
Speaker 3: Well, in some respects, yeah, I like tall men, I
Speaker 3: like facial hair. I like men who have family, were
Speaker 3: engaged with their families. I should say, an intelligent man,
Speaker 3: which he certainly seemed to be.
Speaker 1: He definitely can't pay he definitely can't play offensive line
Speaker 1: for the for the Los Angeles or Las Vegas raiders
Speaker 1: will tell you.
Speaker 3: That that is correct, but you know millions of men can't,
Speaker 3: so that is true.
Speaker 1: It's true. So do you feel did you have a
Speaker 1: connection with Gary and when did you first feel that?
Speaker 3: Oh? Boy, yes, of course there was a connection. Now
Speaker 3: I describe it as love, of course. But our our
Speaker 3: chats were feeling fulfilling, and you know, he was learning
Speaker 3: about me and I was learning about him. Of course,
Speaker 3: I don't know if I remember exactly when it clicked.
Speaker 3: I don't think Limo night because there was so much
Speaker 3: going on with the whole Zen thing and then the bug.
Speaker 3: Maybe you remember the bug. I didn't. I didn't really
Speaker 3: get a chance to connect with him that evening, so
Speaker 3: it might have been our next chat together. I think
Speaker 3: that's that's probably. And looking into those what I call
Speaker 3: old blue eyes two point oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people have said he has really
Speaker 4: really blue eyes. We have not had the pleasure of
Speaker 4: meeting Gary in person yet, but I'm intrigued to see
Speaker 4: these eyes in person.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, in my generation, but in my mom's generation,
Speaker 3: I think Frank Sinatra was old blue eyes, and so
Speaker 3: that's why I called Gary blue eyes two point zho.
Speaker 2: Oh, I like that. That's cute, do you.
Speaker 4: So we've seen you in a couple group dates, and
Speaker 4: I feel like the one, like we talked about earlier
Speaker 4: that you like really shined on was this pickleball group date.
Speaker 4: You have a conversation with Gary and you talk about
Speaker 4: how you're missing your daughter's wedding and he allowed kind
Speaker 4: of not allowed, but gifted you, I guess, with like
Speaker 4: a FaceTime with your daughter.
Speaker 2: What did that moment mean to you?
Speaker 3: Oh? It was mixed, nervous. You know, he's surprised, so
Speaker 3: it was odd, you know, what are you at?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Why is this phone here? But so I was nervous.
Speaker 3: I was so grateful. It was so thoughtful, creative, it
Speaker 3: was it was perfect. It was the perfect thing to do.
Speaker 3: And that day having it felt really good about the
Speaker 3: pickle ball and then getting my one on one with
Speaker 3: Gary and then and then seeing my daughter and my
Speaker 3: new son in law's face. It was it was, It
Speaker 3: was beautiful, It really was.
Speaker 1: What was that a tough decision to to have to
Speaker 1: miss your daughter's wedding to go on this show?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yes, and no Okay.
Speaker 3: You know, my daughter and I talked about this h
Speaker 3: when when when I was being vetted for this show
Speaker 3: and keeping our fingers crossed. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: I knew they were going to try to get married
Speaker 3: during the summer, had yet picked out a date. But
Speaker 3: as it turns out, that the two collided her date
Speaker 3: and the airing of the show, and or I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: the filming of the show, and so we had several
Speaker 3: conversations about it, and the bottom line, my daughter said
Speaker 3: to me, mommy, she said, I've got my man, you
Speaker 3: go get yours. So she gave me her blessings and
Speaker 3: and you know, we hugged and boooed, and I said, baby,
Speaker 3: you're right, You're right. And so it was tough, but
Speaker 3: what she said made sense. You know, this is a once,
Speaker 3: once in a chance, once in the once. What am
Speaker 3: I saying? Once in a lifetime, once in a lifetime opportunity.
Speaker 3: Thank you guys. Yeah, so I'm getting all tearing now,
Speaker 3: don't yeh.
Speaker 1: Serena and I, Serena and I had that conversation. We
Speaker 1: were talking about like how how you would feel, and
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I broke it down, is it
Speaker 1: is you know, it is a once in a lifetime
Speaker 1: opportunity and chance, and I just feel like it's it's
Speaker 1: just something that like you can't pass up. And I
Speaker 1: think that's just wonderful that your daughter pushed you to
Speaker 1: go do it, because that is a selfless act on
Speaker 1: her part, and I think it was I think it
Speaker 1: was the right decision. And I believe you mentioned it
Speaker 1: wasn't her first marriage, correct, This is our second marriage.
Speaker 3: Both of them, each of them have been married once
Speaker 3: before quite some time before. But he's a really good guy.
Speaker 3: I couldn't ask for a better son in law. It's
Speaker 3: another blessing in our lives.
Speaker 4: Well, on that pickleball date, you know, we had that
Speaker 4: beautiful moment with you and Gary, and then we also
Speaker 4: had a little bit of drama with the girls. You know,
Speaker 4: Kathy and Teresa are not getting along.
Speaker 1: They've been going at it, they've been going at this.
Speaker 4: They clearly do not see eye to eye on this situation.
Speaker 4: What was your opinion about the situation going on in
Speaker 4: the Well, you know.
Speaker 3: I wasn't privy to a lot. I knew there was
Speaker 3: something happening, but I didn't know the who said what
Speaker 3: he said? She said, she said, she said, I guess
Speaker 3: I didn't know these specifics, so but it hurt me
Speaker 3: a little because I wanted, you know, kumbaya. I wanted
Speaker 3: everyone to get along. I wanted there not to be consternation.
Speaker 3: I want, you know, I wanted the US Golden Ladies
Speaker 3: to shine such that there would not be any drama
Speaker 3: to reflect on.
Speaker 2: So I saw, I'm sorry, no, it's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I saw more on television than I did when I
Speaker 3: was there.
Speaker 2: So yeah, people forget that.
Speaker 4: I actually forget that sometimes watching because having been on
Speaker 4: the show. I remember doing interviews and Phil being like,
Speaker 4: what do you think of this and this? And I
Speaker 4: was like, honestly, I didn't know any of that was
Speaker 4: going on, right, which is kind of a blessing in
Speaker 4: disguise at the time. Who were you close with on
Speaker 4: the show? Who were like your closest girls that you
Speaker 4: know you still talk to?
Speaker 3: Oh, it was just the girls, because there's some of
Speaker 3: the crew that I loved to death. But my roomy, Leslie,
Speaker 3: she and I became close, especially after we lost Joni
Speaker 3: and then after we lost Christina and there was just
Speaker 3: the two of us in the room. You know, we
Speaker 3: we we bonded some more. She's a great she's a
Speaker 3: great person, and I love her. Let me just say
Speaker 3: I love her. And and then you know, I enjoyed
Speaker 3: several of the other ladies. Doesn't mean I did enjoy
Speaker 3: the others, but my I enjoyed speaking with Edith uh
Speaker 3: beautiful spirit, beautiful woman. And I am. Let's see Ellen,
Speaker 3: who was a hoot. Yeah, I liked me some, Allen.
Speaker 3: She's she just she was a hoot. Liked me some, Allen. Okay,
Speaker 3: And so that's that's probably the strongest that I felt
Speaker 3: connected to.
Speaker 1: And then unfortunately we see you Ellen and Susan go
Speaker 1: home this week. Going into that Row ceremony, how did
Speaker 1: you feel were you? Were you shocked at all? Did
Speaker 1: you kind of make peace with it? And were there
Speaker 1: other women like Leslie were like her connection with Gary
Speaker 1: is much stronger than mine at this point.
Speaker 3: Well, I recognized that my relationship with Gary had not
Speaker 3: advanced as it has had with other ladies. I could
Speaker 3: see that. And you know, there were three roses, and
Speaker 3: that means I had less than probably a fifty percent
Speaker 3: chance of being selected for hometowns. And I was prepared,
Speaker 3: you know, I just had to ration that what was
Speaker 3: happening and who was there. I didn't know specifically the
Speaker 3: connection with other ladies, but I had a sense of
Speaker 3: who he was more attracted to, had more affinity for.
Speaker 3: So I prepared myself. And I'm a big girl. Yeah. Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I was excited about leaving. I was not,
Speaker 3: but I just had to. I had to have a
Speaker 3: Sondra to Sondra talk and we got along very well
Speaker 3: in that discussion.
Speaker 1: That's good watching you back in the show. I just
Speaker 1: think you did a wonderful job. I don't think you
Speaker 1: should have any regrets. But do you have any regrets? No?
Speaker 3: Yes, maybe I do have regt Maybe I regret about
Speaker 3: some of the garments that I brought. I mean, nothing
Speaker 3: heavy duty regrets. Let me think about or just a second,
Speaker 3: you know what, maybe maybe just a minor regret about
Speaker 3: the limo, uh stepping out of the limo. As I
Speaker 3: see the feedback and as I stated earlier, you know,
Speaker 3: the younger folks loved it, thought it was a who
Speaker 3: golden folks not so much. But so you know, that
Speaker 3: was a bit of a consternation for me. So that's
Speaker 3: maybe the only regret.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and watching someone like Gary Navigate dating twenty five
Speaker 1: whatever it was, twenty five thirty women and thing about
Speaker 1: potentially maybe maybe you do get asked to be the
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelorette. What would you take from how he handled
Speaker 1: it that you would that you would do the same
Speaker 1: and or do different?
Speaker 3: You know, that's all that's I like that question. I
Speaker 3: really like that question. Yeah, good for you. I think
Speaker 3: I would try to. Yes, i'd watch back all the
Speaker 3: shows and watch him. But then there's also a culmination.
Speaker 3: It's a culmination of watching. Having been a fan of
Speaker 3: the Bachelor and Bachelorette franchise, I've seen a lot of
Speaker 3: these similar situations Gary was in. So I think he
Speaker 3: was patient, and so I think that being in that
Speaker 3: role requires a lot of patients and really again, a
Speaker 3: lot of self talks, a lot of the what is
Speaker 3: is a lot of self negotiation and self compromise and
Speaker 3: listening to the folks who are there to guide me
Speaker 3: through the process. But you know, when it comes to
Speaker 3: emotions and love, it's easy to speak these words, but
Speaker 3: who knows when you're in that situation. True, I've never
Speaker 3: had two fellas vibe for my attention at one time
Speaker 3: that I'm aware of, so you know, starting with twenty three,
Speaker 3: twenty five or whatever it would be. That's a daunting
Speaker 3: jast to try to feel.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If I don't know, if I can
Speaker 1: fully buy then I feel like there's been well there's
Speaker 1: been times in your life where you had a few
Speaker 1: guys gotten after you.
Speaker 3: I didn't know it the case, I didn't know it,
Speaker 3: but thank you. Job's there's a compliment in there.
Speaker 1: Should we play? You want to play a game?
Speaker 4: I have one more question first, So Sandra, we have
Speaker 4: the women ta all coming up. What are you excited
Speaker 4: you're going to be going and filming it soon? You're
Speaker 4: and we reunited with some of your other castmates, some
Speaker 4: of the other women. What are you most excited for
Speaker 4: for the tell all? And what are you most nervous for?
Speaker 3: Well, I'm excited to see everyone again. I mean we
Speaker 3: we all at some level had a friendship and I'm
Speaker 3: and which was quickly eating away, but just because we
Speaker 3: there were departures. But I want to see everyone again
Speaker 3: and I just think that's gonna feel so good just
Speaker 3: and catch up and chit chat. How's it been for you,
Speaker 3: What's what's life like? How's the grand babies, on and
Speaker 3: on and now what I what I'm fearful of is
Speaker 3: the bloopers. I have a feeling I'm gonna be on
Speaker 3: a couple of bloopers. I'm sure you will be, Sandra,
Speaker 3: I know, and I don't what that frightens the heck
Speaker 3: out of me.
Speaker 1: Bloopers are there to make to make people laugh.
Speaker 3: So oh, I understand. I don't want them laughing in me.
Speaker 2: They'll be laughing with you, with me.
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks, Serena.
Speaker 1: Of course. All right, we're gonna play, Sandra. We're gonna
Speaker 1: play a quick game rapid fire question. So, first thing
Speaker 1: that comes to your hat, it doesn't even have.
Speaker 3: To make sense, I'm sorry. What's that?
Speaker 2: Last?
Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to make sense that comes to
Speaker 1: your head.
Speaker 2: It's all just easy, fun questions about yourself.
Speaker 3: Okay, like red flag, gold flag?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kind of okay. What is the first thing
Speaker 1: you do when you wake up in the morning.
Speaker 3: Oh, when I wake up, I say a prayer. I
Speaker 3: thank God for blessing me with yet another day on
Speaker 3: this earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that. What is your go to rose ceremony cocktail?
Speaker 1: Even though you don't drink.
Speaker 3: I drink orange juice. Mixed with cranberry juice.
Speaker 1: What was the first concert you ever attended?
Speaker 3: Jeez, guys, I'm not twenty five. We're going back a
Speaker 3: two decades, Jeane. You know what I saw my Luther
Speaker 3: Luther Vandross Rand Rose. Yes, a billion years ago. My guy?
Speaker 1: Wow, what is your love language?
Speaker 3: Well? What language? I don't?
Speaker 1: I like words of reformation?
Speaker 2: What's your favorite way to like receive?
Speaker 4: Weve? So there's like physical touch, there's words of affirmation,
Speaker 4: quality time, or acts of service or gifts?
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, the gift dialogue most from a guy is
Speaker 3: his generosity. And I don't mean from his wallet. I
Speaker 3: think I said that before, not a gift from his wallet,
Speaker 3: but a gift of his time, of his energy, of
Speaker 3: his his uh chatting with me, of being just being
Speaker 3: with me, wanting to be with me, not quality quality time,
Speaker 3: quality time and generous with quality time. But I mean
Speaker 3: we're you know, the clock is ticking on all of us, right,
Speaker 3: So how many hours one word answers? I'm sorry, did
Speaker 3: you want one?
Speaker 1: There's no right or wrong on this podcast. How many
Speaker 1: hours of sleep do you get every night?
Speaker 3: Probably six or seven? I prefer more, But you know,
Speaker 3: mother nature is charge here.
Speaker 1: So what is your favorite place in the whole world?
Speaker 3: Oh? My, I like that question because I had no answer.
Speaker 3: You know, my favorite place is where I live. I
Speaker 3: guess my home. I'm cocooned here.
Speaker 1: Love my home.
Speaker 3: I love my home.
Speaker 1: So, if you could only watch one movie on repeat
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life, what movie would that be?
Speaker 3: Oh, you guys are going to think this is really strange.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: When I was in college, I fell in love with
Speaker 3: a movie called And of the Thousand Days. Okay remember it?
Speaker 3: And another one's Soilent Green but u And that was
Speaker 3: the story of Anne Boleyn and Henry the Eighth and
Speaker 3: just the way it was portrayed. And seeing Genevieve Boujold,
Speaker 3: she was just fabul this actress. Anyway, that was one
Speaker 3: hundred years ago.
Speaker 1: Guys, Okay, okay, what is one word your kids or
Speaker 1: grandkids would use to describe you.
Speaker 3: Adorable? No, no, let me say, let me reap, maybe
Speaker 3: go back. My oldest daughter calls me cute. Okay, teller,
Speaker 3: I'm too old to be cute, she says, Mommy, you're cute.
Speaker 3: My youngest daughter says, I'm adorable.
Speaker 2: Oh well, both endearing terms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: If you were to write an autobiography, what would it
Speaker 1: be called?
Speaker 3: Oh? I like that question, Jo. How about not that
Speaker 3: anyone would read it, a book called Sondra with Sondra.
Speaker 3: But you know I have, I've developed a lot of
Speaker 3: self love and I am and that just it keeps
Speaker 3: me afloat, keeps me happy, keeps me smiling, maybe keeps
Speaker 3: me cute or adorable. I don't know, but maybe Sondra
Speaker 3: with Sondra or Sondra on Sondra, something like that.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: Excuse me for interrupting you. My middle name is Joy.
Speaker 3: My mom always called me Sondra the Joy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so that's so nice. That's a good middle name.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in love at first sight?
Speaker 3: I believe it exists. I've never had it except for
Speaker 3: with someone on a television screen, but a movie star
Speaker 3: like a Denzel or something, you know, but it's not
Speaker 3: happened to me. But I believe it exists. I believe
Speaker 3: that other people have had just that.
Speaker 1: Benzel Washington, he's a smooth.
Speaker 3: Guy, isn't he And he's taken Yes. Hi, Paul Lena.
Speaker 1: What is one word to describe this season of the
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 3: Oh, phenomenal. It was phenomenal thing to do and to
Speaker 3: learn from and it you know, how many human beings
Speaker 3: get to do this in their lifetime. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: there was quite a few thousand who applied for this
Speaker 3: opportunity and I received it. So it's just phenomenal. From
Speaker 3: the day I got to where we were first situated
Speaker 3: till the day I got home, just phenomenal.
Speaker 1: And why do you think, why do you think the
Speaker 1: viewers are so obsessed with the show and are just
Speaker 1: singing its praises.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we have separate sets of viewers. We
Speaker 3: now have a demographic that there was there before, and
Speaker 3: that's golden folks. So I think we have a new
Speaker 3: set of viewers who are going to be obsessed with
Speaker 3: this if they indeed have a Golden Bachelorette or yet
Speaker 3: another Golden Bachelor. I was obsessed with the show. Well,
Speaker 3: I was always obsessed with the show it first came on.
Speaker 3: I can't remember. I think Alex was the very first bachelor,
Speaker 3: and then Trista was the first bachelorette, and I was
Speaker 3: hooked back then. I I, uh, maybe it's being in
Speaker 3: love with love. Maybe it's you know, just seeing seeing
Speaker 3: one of the possible ways of finding love. You know
Speaker 3: that was that was how many? That was a long
Speaker 3: time ago, when uh, reality TV was just blossoming, and
Speaker 3: this was one of those where women weren't pulling each
Speaker 3: other's hair out or cussing at each other or turning
Speaker 3: over tables or something, but they all had a goal
Speaker 3: and a valid goal. Valuable and valid goal.
Speaker 1: I like that well, Sondra, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on Happy Hours.
Speaker 3: Thank you you guys. And I say you're just too cute.
Speaker 3: I'm too cute, but.
Speaker 2: You're too cute.
Speaker 3: Thank you all right, Joe by Serena. Serena, you and
Speaker 3: me football, Yes, you can teach me football this weekend.
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