1 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Hmmm, Philip, we appreciate the time. 2 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: I've heard a ton of dudes how inspirational you were 3 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: to them. And obviously we're gonna talk about how we 4 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: don't feel you're celebrating in this grand scheme of things. 5 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: But when you hear the real ones that. 6 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: You attached and you affected give you your flowers, what 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: does that mean to you? 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 3: I always looked at it for so many years like 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: I was the Rodney Danger feeling of hip hop, you know, 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: coming from Miami, coming from the South, you know, when 11 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, being a person who discovered Southern hip hop, 12 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: you know, when coming up in the era of being 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: a DJ and only spending music from you know, New 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 3: York and then spending music from LA and so when 15 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: we eventually ended up starting to do the music, you know, 16 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: it was it was a kind of resentment, more so 17 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: from the East Coast part of it, because it was 18 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: it was their baby. You know. They were like, hey man, 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: we ain't fucking with nobody else. You know, it's all 20 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: about New York, you know, and so, which is understandable. 21 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: But later on down the line it became Okay, we're 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 3: doing what we're doing. You know, we eventually you don't 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: have to fight our way into certain things in certain places. 24 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 3: But eventually people started respecting the music for what it was. 25 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: And then lately, I would say probably the last probably 26 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: last eight years, eight to ten years, people started giving 27 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: the flowers into respect to what we built. 28 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: We just had a conversation with DC a couple of 29 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: weeks ago in Dallas. He just got all the rights 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: back to his music five years later. He said he 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: never thought he would see it. Congratulations to you. You 32 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: had a similar situation. I mean, what does that mean 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: to you? And how frustrating was that process? You really 34 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: can enjoy it now? 35 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, when a motherfucker sampleon ship, yeah, 36 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: you know, you know you can, you know you're gonna 37 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: get you know, resisus from it. You know, a large 38 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 3: part of my catalog, you know. You know, I thought 39 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: I was doing the right thing because again I'm pioneering. Shit, 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: I'm like first one to own and operate a record company, manufactured, 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: distributed the product, you know, unlike anybody else, you know, 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: trying not to get jammed up in the taxes. I'm 43 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: looking at how people lost their businesses and lost their catalog. 44 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: So I started surrounding myself with you know, lawyers and 45 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: accountants thinking they would be kosher and shit. But you know, 46 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: they were out there, you know, in my opinion, still 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: still the shit. 48 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 4: You know, which they they were able to do it. 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: They were able to infistrate what we had built, you 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: know at that time, you know, with the two Live 51 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: Crew and H Town and. 52 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: Stuff like that. Artists like that, they kind of worked them. 53 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: And eventually, you know, I lost the case, and I 54 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: was still getting sued by a lot of people because 55 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: back then, you know, we. 56 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: Were just sampling shit. 57 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: So I had a lot of sample lawsuits going on, 58 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: and eventually ended up you know, they filed this same 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: trick guy filed the involuntary bankruptcy, got three creditors, and 60 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: then the file against me. 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: So I originally did not go into bankruptcy. 62 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: It was an involuntary but then at the same time 63 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: I had all these little lawsuits, and you know, when 64 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: I did have the lawyer talk to him about it, 65 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, it's a way to spell relief. 66 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna just go ahead and convert it in to 67 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: a JAP eleven, get rid of all this ship. 68 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: And because I make records, I mean records don't make 69 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: me more, Yeah, I can make more. So then I 70 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: end up discovering Pitbull after that, trick Daddy in and 71 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of other artists and doing solo albums 72 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: and continuously did what I did. But then I lost it, 73 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: had that because I had to do a deal within 74 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: the bankruptcy to actually, you know, sell. 75 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: A large part of the cantalog. You know, eventually I 76 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: ended up. 77 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: So then that's what I had to fight to get back, 78 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 3: which we got back a couple. 79 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: Of weeks ago. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, so it was 80 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: a it was a different kind of way. You know. 81 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 4: That's why I can't I can't wait for the story 82 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 4: to be told. 83 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, are you making it? 84 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 4: Yeah? 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I actually but on the way here, I 86 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: signed the contract with Paramount Movie. Yeah, so it's gonna be. 87 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: It'll be able people be able to see the real story. 88 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 4: We bringed through it. 89 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: But Dino was one of the callers motherfuckers ever. Oh yeah, yeah, 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: he was one of the call us motherfuckers every singing. 91 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, no question about that. He was one to call one, 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 4: no question about it. 93 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: I mean the way I found them was through Low White. 94 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: Low White played ball for for Houston all Us at 95 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: the time, and he you know him, He linked up 96 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 3: with the manager and all that, and they were trying 97 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 3: to find that somebody to do a deal with them, 98 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: and and Low White kept telling me about this group the. 99 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: Lead singer for Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: They kept telling me about this group called the JITs, 101 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: and it was like the JITs. And so I went 102 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 3: to go see Low White playing do a show at 103 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: the same time. 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: Eventually stayed over the listen to these kids and I heard. 105 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: Him at that time, they had to be like teenagers. 106 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had to be seventeen years in high school. Yeah. 107 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: And I'm from around the air, so I remember all that, 108 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: so you okay, yeah yeah yeah. So I was like, 109 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 3: first of all, we got we gotta lose this motherfucker. 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: I was like, Yota call ya. 111 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: Time was perfect though. 112 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: The screw all that was popping around the town, that 113 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: was perfect. 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, bro. And they used to screaming on the radio. 115 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: I think Grave Street was that. 116 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, like time, I'm like, well you mother, each time 117 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: that y'all gonna represent it, take it your crib, ain't 118 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: nobody else using it. 119 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 4: So that's how that was. 120 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: Fire Town for those that don't know you took this, 121 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: You was taken to uh to Supreme court over music 122 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: and lyrics and stuff now and you end up winning. Now, 123 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: a lot of them kids today are even the benefits 124 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: of that. 125 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 4: They could say what they want. 126 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 3: And you know what I'm saying, can you talk about 127 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: that and how well we we actually don't feel you 128 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: get enough props for that, but can you talk about 129 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: how kids are benefiting from that today and don't understand. 130 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: What you went through for them to be able to 131 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: benefit from it. Yeah, I mean, let me tell you 132 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 4: it was like ship. It was. It was almost like 133 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: a civil rights movement at the time, you know. And 134 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 4: I don't use that word loosely because people died. 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: Through the civil rights movement, you know, and people you know, 136 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: we would go to city, go to jail, get arrested, 137 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: go to court, you know, eventually ended up in the 138 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: Supreme Court, like you say, being banned from arenas, couldn't 139 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: go in certain places, couldn't go, couldn't sleep in certain times, 140 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: you know, because of the music. So you know, a 141 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: lot of kids today they don't understand that, you know. Uh, 142 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: you know, they changed the name from popp and Pussy 143 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: to Turk and you know what I'm saying, ship. 144 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 145 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so they didn't understand that, you know, Okay, 146 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: all right, no, motherucker, that was it. And their mamas 147 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: just explained to them, Nah, motherfucker, we did that, ship 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: doing it and that's how they got it. Yeah, that's 149 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: how you got here, you know, And that's how you 150 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: got it. So that's what you got it. You got 151 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: it your mama. So y'all, mother can say invented nothing. 152 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 4: So so we were going through that. We basically we 153 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 4: went through all those trials and add that on. 154 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: Top of being an outcast being these country ass niggas 155 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: from the South. Now you're doing shows with every rock 156 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 3: Him and run DMC and all them, you know. But 157 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: unfortunately I knew them dudes because when I was when 158 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: I started, I was a DJ. I kind of brought 159 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: hip hop to Miami. But just now you're you're playing 160 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: in the same arena and they playing in and it's 161 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: like it's a competition. You know, you ain't get ready 162 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: to go rock the mic and you're not from New York, 163 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 3: you know, so he has game time. So it was 164 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: it was a lot of resentment for the industry. It 165 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: was a lot of resentment from uh, from the actual 166 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 3: people who wanted to stop us. And then politics played 167 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: a big role into it because every politician when he 168 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: was running he used us as upon the game, like Yo, 169 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: we're gonna stop this fucking uh tree of music and 170 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: this Luke and all that, and I'm running on that 171 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: to clean up the community and everything. 172 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 4: So you know, you had all different types of elements. 173 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 4: So eventually, you. 174 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: Know, got sued by uh damn George Stein, not George Stein, 175 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: but George Lucas Star Wars because my name was my 176 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: nickname sky right, That's like I said, it was Cheerio cheer. 177 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 4: I was like, why the fun y'all ain't Kenny Skywalker? 178 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: He was? He was using so they, I mean, I 179 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 4: got sued by them. 180 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 3: I was getting sued everywhere you could name it, you know, 181 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: But because it was all of the content of the music, 182 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: so I understood that it was gonna a fight. You know, 183 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: my uncles and my dad would teach me about black history. 184 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: They maybe read every book, whether it was h Rap 185 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: Brown Malcolm makes you deem it. 186 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 4: So I kind of knew things in full suckles. 187 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: When you're a black man with a voice. They're gonna 188 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: come after you. And then you're independent something not affiliated 189 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: with a major record. So I mean, shit got deep. 190 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: But then I was preparing for it, you know, I 191 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: knew it was a lot of DJs in the South. 192 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: They was dealing with a real nigga. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 193 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: they got the right. 194 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 4: But I was like, you got the right, motherfucker. 195 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: You ain't got no mother who don't know how you 196 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: how you motherfuckers is moving. So yeah, I fought they 197 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: asked they were trying to drag me, you know, that's 198 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 3: what they normally do. They'll drag you to suck the 199 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: blood out of you, suck all your resources, turn you 200 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: back into what they perceived you as, being a broke 201 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: black man, you know, and they weren't. I wasn't gonna 202 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 3: lie that to happen because along the way, I was 203 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: building my brand through the bullshit, you know. So I 204 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 3: knew you, okay, you banning the record, I'm gonna use 205 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: that to build up the brand, build up the company, 206 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: you know. And that's how the Age Towns and all 207 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: them came about. That's why it was it was sex. 208 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: They were luke R and B you know, I ain't 209 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: know what the fun knocking the boots was, but when 210 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: they explained it to me, you know this, you know, 211 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 3: and oh ship, So that's what we're gonna do. That's 212 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: gonna be the first single. You know, that's you all version. 213 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 3: So yeah, but it was it. I mean it was 214 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: a deep move. 215 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: I mean, speaking of that, I'm gonna me so horny 216 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 5: face down, ass up. 217 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 4: We want some pussies pop that coochie to it. I mean, 218 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: we know it ain't no mister to his history. The 219 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 4: fun shot. You gotta be living at to come up 220 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 4: with them titles. You got to be living there, you gotta. 221 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: I think it was. 222 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I come from Miami. These motherfuckers run 223 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 3: around naked. You know. The rest of the world no, 224 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: you know, I know, if you from Boise, Idaho or someplace, 225 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: you good. We I mean people go to the beach 226 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: with thumb z on. I mean they toppless on the beach. So, 227 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: I mean that's where we came from. But then at 228 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: the time we had to be different. We can't be 229 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: break dancing and ship and doing you know, stickers. So 230 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: when album covers had to be a reflection of Miami. Yeah, 231 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: We're on the beach laying between girls legs and they 232 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: got thongs on. 233 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 4: That's Miami. 234 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: You know, that's Miami. So hey, I can't I'm we're 235 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 3: gonna be talking about pop. That puzzy mama's out there, Uy, 236 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: Like how you think you got here? 237 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: How you? Yeah? Yeah, how you think you got here? 238 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: A lot of y'all got here because your daddy ain't 239 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: had no game, so you had to throw on the 240 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: loop one one. 241 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 4: We're having some fun in that room. 242 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 5: No gay, Is it true that Bruce Springs thing really 243 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: gave you the green light to use bandon? 244 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 245 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I actually I talked to him because you know, 246 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: I ain't want to do like these new Jack dudes 247 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: do right now. 248 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 4: Well, they'll take your song and they'll sample. 249 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: Your ship and you be on the record and your 250 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: music and they ain't even. 251 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: Holler at you or nothing. You know a lot of 252 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 4: that going right now. 253 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 3: You know, I don't think I have one person I 254 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: don't give whether it's French Montana, whoever may be, that 255 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: call up and say, yo, man. 256 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: You know respect men. I want to use the song. 257 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: They just yeah, they just they just go and use 258 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 3: the song. I go call somebody and get the rights 259 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: to use it. But I felt like it was really 260 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: important to get on the phone. If I'm gonna use 261 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 3: the song, I can use it because my Supreme Court 262 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: case was a parody case, and so it gives you 263 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: the right to use you know, content, you know, whether 264 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: or not you get the approval. But I just felt 265 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: like it was it was it was the right thing 266 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: to do. And when I talked to him, he understood 267 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: the struggle because it was everywhere. I mean I was 268 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 3: on every show you know, talk about what's free speech, 269 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: you know, how music is being under attack and everything 270 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 3: like that. So he understood, you know, he understood the fight. 271 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 3: And I wanted to do that album to really like 272 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: put that ship out there. Name of the album, banded 273 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: in the USA, you know, do the song switch over 274 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: born in the USA, make it band in the USA. 275 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: And when he gave us the right to do that, 276 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 4: it was like it was classic. He got it. You 277 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: can tell you got it. 278 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, most people don't know that was the first downloaded 279 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: record in the history of the music business. Oh really, yeah, 280 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: I didn't even know there was that ship. I forget 281 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: what year. Because I wanted to. 282 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: I wanted everybody to have the record on fourth of July, 283 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: google that dealing. What year was that? 284 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I said, I want every radio station to 285 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: have it to play it at the same time. 286 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 4: It's a crossover. Yeah, yep, yeah, yep. That's crazy. It 287 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: don't seem like that was that long. 288 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 5: He ain't tell us that Martinez and Navarro story standing 289 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: from the song fuck Martinez. 290 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: And Governor you yeah, the governor and dan Quell with 291 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: the vice president. So Bartina is, let's take Navarro first. 292 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: So Navarro was. 293 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: Would hang around with Heraldo. They were the first fucking 294 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: reality TV show. 295 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, they got Herald as nose broke to exactly 296 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: ex live for the world exactly. They ran around with 297 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: the fucking cameras and you know with Navarro bust and 298 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: cocaine deals and ship like that, going. 299 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 4: Up the house and this motherfucker. Okay, now you're a 300 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 4: fuck with me, you feel me? Yeah, got the right 301 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 4: one again, you know. 302 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: So he then goes and run up into the store 303 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: and took the records. 304 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: Out of the store. We banned and ship you know, 305 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: these X. 306 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: Rated records and all that, and this would not happen. 307 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: So they made the whole show about it. So eventually 308 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: we ended up going to court. People don't realize it 309 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: was it was three cases. It was it was the 310 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 3: Supreme Court case. It was the Nazis they want to 311 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: be case where the record was actually deemed I've seen 312 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: that was the Navarro Ship, you know, the federal judge 313 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: said this record is o've scene. 314 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: Then we ended up going doing a show. 315 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck y'all, We're gonna go right down the 316 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: street from the courthouse to do a show. 317 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: And seeing the whole fucking album. So they. 318 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: Jail, you know what, I'm just fucking fucked up, you know, 319 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: like I was gonna. 320 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: Be dead in jail. 321 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: Them doing that and not being public. Grow your fan 322 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: base and the love the motherfuckers have for you. 323 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: That's what my lawyer said. He's like, don't worry about 324 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: this brand. He said, yr fucking brand going crazy out 325 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: of this world. 326 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: I'm on the West Coast and young at that time, 327 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: and we only hear West Coast music. But when you 328 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: guys ship started happening, all the trouble it's on TV. 329 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 2: Now now we're starting to hear it on the West 330 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 2: Coast radio station. Yeh, your brand. 331 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: See, but the crazy you know, the crazy part about it. 332 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 3: The two Live Crew came from the West Coast most 333 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: people don't know. Mixed came from Sam Bernardino. They all 334 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: were connected because they were in the military. Chris was 335 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 3: from New York, brother Mark. It was another guy in 336 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 3: the group named ury v Lot. 337 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: He was from l A. Uh. He was an original member, 338 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 4: but he was more conscious. He ain't want to do. 339 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: This fuck shopping type music, so he kind of jumped out, uh, 340 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: and then we didn found Marquise brought him into the group. 341 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: But it was an LA based group. All of them 342 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: was on my Cola Records with with with Easy and 343 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: all the rest of them with you name it. All 344 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: them dudes was on my Cola Records at that time, 345 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: which is a distribution company. 346 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: You know. 347 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 3: He had everybody from the West Coast and so I 348 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 3: basically found them from there as a DJ putting out, 349 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 3: you know, going to the party and heard this one 350 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: song and start bringing them down do shows. 351 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 4: And that's how we kind of linked up raunchy female music. 352 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 3: Seeing people like Sexy Red cardib Glowrilla uh and these 353 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 3: Labis flip the table and talk like you what's your 354 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 3: take on that? 355 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 4: Man? I love it? 356 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's crazy because my most my biggest critics 357 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: were women back then when I was going through all 358 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: the shit, Oh you fucking the great crading women, massage, distic, 359 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: motherfucking and all that. So right now I'm like, yeah, 360 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: how the table's turned now, the fucking girls winning. Hey, 361 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: they celebrating it and all that. I mean, Sexy Red, 362 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: you know, I love sexu Red. I love all of 363 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: them are doing, you know what I'm saying, because they 364 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: being themself and they represent a certain uh, a certain 365 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: group of people. You know. 366 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 4: Sexy Red represent a. 367 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: Group of women the hood, the hood who have never 368 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 3: had a represented you know, the girls who feel comfortable 369 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 3: with the purple and green would do fucked up booty shots, 370 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: and not too many of them look cute, you know 371 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. You know, you have to be a 372 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 3: dying piece, a tea in or something like that. So 373 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: she represents the whole fucking generation of people, you know. 374 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 3: And and like I say, I love everything that them 375 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: girls doing. 376 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 4: You know, I appreciate the fact that I was able 377 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 4: to fight for. 378 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: Them to have the right to be able to say 379 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 3: what they're saying and to see them shaking the ass. 380 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 4: I mean, the little girl from New York, what her 381 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: name is, Spice, Spice to turn around, shake her ass. 382 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 3: I'd be like, see, you got in front of your mama. Yeah, 383 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: you your mama grew up on Loop and she knew me. 384 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 3: Yeah she knew h Yeah exactly. So, I mean, I 385 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: love the fact that they're able to do their ship 386 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 3: because then you know, again, if if if I don't 387 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: win that, if I don't go back and get the 388 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 3: federal case, which was when the nasty was deemed i've 389 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: seen overturned, which I eventually ended up doing. If I 390 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: don't get that over to niggad use that case against 391 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 3: all these girls everybody, because it'll be case law, you know, 392 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 3: case law. 393 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 4: This type of ship. Yeah, nineteen the scene saying this 394 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: on the record and all this and did this. It 395 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: don't beat community standards. They wouldn't be able to say. 396 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 5: What it's a rapper out of the West Coast name Simber. 397 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 5: You're familiar with him Simber? 398 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: Then no, no, okay, he's a he's a one of 399 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: the youngest, one of the high young rappers that's just 400 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 3: coming up now. 401 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's our homeboy. But he said the South has 402 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 5: the better rappers. And the better songwriters, and the East 403 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 5: Coast and West Coast got better rappers. I agree with 404 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 5: him on the southern part, but I think we got 405 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 5: some of the better rappers in the South too. But 406 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 5: I agree because I really think that the soul in 407 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 5: the music, the the the ideas to come, all that 408 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 5: comes from the South. You know what I'm saying, Just 409 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 5: even the music, all that comes from the southele you 410 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 5: agree with what he's saying. I agree for the same 411 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 5: point of right now. You know, when I came in 412 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: the game, it was it was New York. You know, 413 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 5: they had the lyricism. 414 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: I mean, you name it, you know, yeah, that ship 415 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 4: was motherfucker you connect you feel me? 416 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: That was like, you know, you can't with that, no, no, no, no, 417 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 3: you just you just wanted to be in the room 418 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: with that ship, you know what I'm saying. So at 419 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: that time, but then even at that time, now people 420 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: like again part of the fight was I remember going 421 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 3: to New Music Seminar, which was the biggest music convention 422 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: in New York at the Marquis Hotel, ten thousand people in. 423 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: The room, and like, this ship is a fad. The 424 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: South will never be great in hip hop this early nineties, 425 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: early nineties, I hop up in the room. 426 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: You know, I'm a nigga about it. Anyway, Man, fuck 427 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: that ship. The South will ruleless motherfucker. 428 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We were running this motherfucker 429 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 4: because we're not We're not a city our big time. 430 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're election Charlotte, We're collection Atlanta, Where. 431 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: Georgia, where you know where Memphis? Where where we're you know, 432 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: we're global entity of the South. And if we ever 433 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: catch on, it'll be it'll be hard press. So you know, 434 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: I agree with him for right now now because the 435 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 3: South is it's really ruling uh right now. 436 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: But a lot of other places. 437 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you see what Kendrick is doing Detroit and 438 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: hey that you know, Hey, it's it's something different, you know, 439 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: it's it's something different. It ain't just totally controlled by 440 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: one area, which is what I've always been about. You know, 441 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: I always been about, Hey, man, this ship ain't just 442 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: because it's not gonna land, it's gonna be like disco 443 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: if it's if it's if it's only hip hop in 444 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: New York, the ship can be and it's gonna. 445 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: Play out, you know, and out. 446 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: And I just I'm just happy that I played my 447 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 3: part into diversifying it, you know, along with what they 448 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: were doing in LA in California and then what they 449 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: were doing in Philly and so down for the shit 450 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: to be able to spread to bring that, you know, 451 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: which is a beautiful bag. 452 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: Everybody got their own sound, That's what I love. West 453 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 4: Coast got his own side. 454 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, we got our own sound, East Coast, everybody got 455 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 5: you know, even the Midwest coming over their own sound. 456 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: You was obviously a pioneer for the South. And we're 457 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: going to get into that. 458 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: But did you lean on anybody when you was going 459 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 2: through all your shit or you just found a way 460 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: to get through it by yourself? 461 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 3: Man, I was using common sense, you know, and what 462 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 3: I learned because I was a DJ, so back then 463 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: I was a part of a record pool, and I 464 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: understood that there's record pools all across the country. Then 465 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: I did a little interned at the radio station because 466 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: again now the dark side of me, I was a 467 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: street motherfucker. Yeah you feel me in and I was like, okay, 468 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: I gotta get my life together. And so I got 469 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 3: into this music shit, and so I interned at the 470 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: station learn how records are promoted, how the record man 471 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,719 Speaker 3: come in and do things in the station to get 472 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 3: the records played, which is what Homeboy should have said 473 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 3: the other day, because some things you don't talk about, 474 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: you feel me. And so I'm looking at all these 475 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: and so I'm learning, but not knowing that I'm learning 476 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: at the same time not saying that my goal is 477 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: to own the record company. I just wanted to be 478 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: the biggest record promoter promoter, you know. I wanted to 479 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 3: be fucking al Hayman. And then I ended up falling 480 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: into this music shit. You know, when somebody, you know again, 481 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: somebody tell me, oh, you can't do something, I'm like, nah, hell. 482 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 4: No, I'll show you a better than I can tell you. 483 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 3: So, you know, I ended up falling into the music 484 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: business and and and then eventually loving it being upon 485 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 3: there and someone who basically started the golf. Other than 486 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 3: this ship, I'm gonna give you some names, some Southern 487 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: groups that definitely pay harmage to you, but I want 488 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 3: to I want to get your opinion on them. 489 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: Our casts, Oh yeah, our cares. I mean, they took 490 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 4: this ship to a whole other level. Great. 491 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: Great, I mean I mean probably one of the greatest 492 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: Southern there groups in the Southern groups ever yeah, ever, 493 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: ever serious, something fucking serious. 494 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, ghetto boys, ghettle My god, im about to say 495 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 4: that that's your era. 496 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: I'm still trying to find them, you know. I just 497 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 3: we faced the other day. I'm still trying to I 498 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: did a like this sit out interview with the whole 499 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 3: fucking groups, still with Bushwick was still alive. I mean, 500 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: like again, my ass is thinking, like I'm always thinking 501 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 3: ten years. 502 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 4: Way back in the nineties. This ship really two thousands, 503 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 4: it was early two thousand. 504 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta find that ship where I had 505 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: all them We're always sitting in the room, were just 506 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: chopping us. 507 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: You know which. Yeah, I gotta find that motherfucker. 508 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: They pay good money for ship like that. 509 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 4: Ghetto Boys were so inspirational for the entire South. 510 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: I mean when I discovered Trick Daddy, right, Trick Dad 511 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 3: was signing just like Scarface, and I had to tell him, 512 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 3: you can't sound like Scarf. 513 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 4: I mayn't mind you. I just got I just got 514 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: this motherfucker out of jail already crazy as fun. 515 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: Right, so it's delivering. His cadence was like wow, you know, 516 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: because they got the same voice, but he delivered the 517 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: lyrics the same way. 518 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 4: Star Face. 519 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, you can't do that ship, you know, man, 520 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 3: man man, come on man. Let So I ended up 521 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 3: taking to Chicago. We did a show. Hey, I got 522 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: this new motherfucker up here. Uh, you're gonna sing a 523 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: song right here. 524 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 4: Pooto went back. I said, now you now you believe me? 525 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: You know, call young motherfuckers. They always told him, Oh 526 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 4: that's how y'all did it. It's the young ship and 527 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: all that and all motherfucker business. Don't change. And then 528 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: we changed is the way he delivered away from what 529 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 4: Scott Fish was doing. 530 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: But shout I trick Daddy got a dope restaurant. 531 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 4: Eye to the food is crazy, Yeah yeah, food traina. 532 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: Trina, my little that's my little sister. We used to 533 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: be on fifteenth, fifteenth Avenue spot here, hardcore hood area. Stepdaddy, stepdaddy, 534 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: her stepbrother was in my DJ group. No, you know, 535 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 3: we was street niggas. And Trina was a little girl. 536 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 3: You know, she sed, hanging at the store and all that, 537 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: and so she always was like always around, the little 538 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 3: girl and the mama Vanessa. 539 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 4: God bless her soul. Fine ass mama, gorgeous, beautiful, red motherfucker, 540 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 4: which mister wonderful older dude. That was this girl. 541 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: So you know, Trina was a mom and everything like that. 542 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 3: But that's like, that's like my little sister, you know, 543 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 3: the sister I never had you feel me. And I remember, 544 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: it's your birthday song. If you listen to the song 545 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: real close, you're here, Trina is your birthday. That was 546 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: the first time she went in the studio, you know, 547 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: so we brought her and her little homegirls in there. 548 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: Y'all come on in the studio and sing on the 549 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: background on the song and everything like that. 550 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 4: She got the bug. 551 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: And you know, I just love what she's been doing 552 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: and her career that she's had in the business and 553 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 3: how she represented the crib. 554 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 4: That's my own girl. Rick Ross Ross Rose another little 555 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: short story. Rose. 556 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I love that dude. That's my dude. I 557 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: understand the struggle. He came from where I first met 558 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: him again. He from Carol City on Liberty City. That's 559 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 3: like Glynn Bronx and all that ship like that. Ross 560 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: was outside of the charl City Flee market giving out 561 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: his records and then. 562 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: He gave me a uh uh CD went on, checked 563 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 4: it out, listened to this ship like this. It got 564 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 4: something right. Then I did a record. Uh I did 565 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: a record with him and this other guy named dirt 566 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 4: bag you know Ross, like he. 567 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: Was all excited that I'm doing the records. Now he 568 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 3: again he hustling and ship. So you gotta understand where 569 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: it came from. So to hear what he's doing right 570 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: now and see where he's at. You know that mother 571 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: really was on his frind. You know it ain't no, 572 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: it ain't had no sivil spoons. Ain't nobody give him 573 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: no okay a Ross, No, Ross really put it, put 574 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: his work in. Yeah yeah, uh u GK what Arthur? 575 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 4: Oh ship man Classic classic classic some ship you just 576 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: you just you can only it's only one word classic. Yeah, yeah, 577 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: that's my guy. 578 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: Obviously we touched on Miami football. But where did that 579 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 2: connection and love come from? Because you were bridged for 580 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: a university to a community of young men that kind 581 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: of changed the way college football was played and looked 582 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: at at that time. 583 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, I mean I always was a 584 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: Hurricane football fan, from being a kid playing Pop Warner, 585 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: my brother taking me to the stadium, washing us get 586 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 3: the shit beat out of us with another thousand people 587 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: in the Orange Bold nobody went at the game. So 588 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: I saw the dragon of the program. And then and then, 589 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: you know when again when this music thing, I wanted 590 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: to do something different. You know, I looked at well, 591 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: how Stellenberger did howl. Stellinberger went to Tyler Hanson got 592 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 3: beat by fam. You so, HBCU beat Pothfie School at 593 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 3: that time, won Powfine School, all those black kids, and 594 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 3: in the area where the University of Miami is located, 595 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: it wasn't really no such thing as black people being 596 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: able to go in the area. 597 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 4: So then house Teleburgher made the decision. Fucked that. 598 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 3: I just got beat by a whole bunch of guys 599 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: from Tallahansee, which is seven hours away, that's from Miami, 600 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 3: because that was the only opportunity for them to go 601 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: to school, either there or coopmen. Then the dudes started 602 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: getting on the campus, you start bringing them, they start 603 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: doing wild shit on the news, Niggas going up in 604 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 3: motherfuckers the dooms, taking TVs and robbing the motherfucker white 605 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 3: kids and all that. 606 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: So then I'm like, I'm Luke, I got. 607 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: Clubs strawberries, like you say, all kinds of shit team discos, 608 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: what these dudes hung out there. So I didn't say, look, 609 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: let me take it upon myself the hoigher at these motherfuckers. 610 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 4: Let them know the opportunity that they got, you know, 611 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 4: don't fuck the opportunity to start off as more of 612 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: a mentorship. 613 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: It started off as a mentorship, but then at the 614 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: same time, dudes got kids, These motherfuckers. 615 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: Playing down there, riding with them old pretty ass houses. 616 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: And shit, and they plan not knowing they can't eat, 617 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: they can't send the money back home. So then now 618 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 3: that's where all the word come in. Old Luke was 619 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: paying motherfuckers, which the statute of limitations. But then it 620 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 3: became okay, how do I get you to perform at 621 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 3: a certain level where you're gonna perform how your expectations. 622 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: They end up getting you drafted. 623 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: But then you can get a couple of dollars right now, 624 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 3: you know, to take care of some of your your bills, 625 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: come by the club, whatever it is you feel me. 626 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: And so it was more of hey, look let me 627 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: mentor these guys point them in the right direction, tell 628 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: them to seize the opportunity that they have get an 629 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: education or or make it to the vise them exactly. 630 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 3: So then now I'm like, yo, this shit, we got 631 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: to take it to another level. Then I put the 632 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 3: whole jacket on that album cover. So now bad Boy 633 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: Motherfucker's a hip hop. Every Thursday, we got a meeting 634 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: at my condo. Hey, man, take your fucking helmet off, 635 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: going the stand, telling the fuck y'all dance over nigga 636 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: man talk ship because they don't like us. So I'm 637 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 3: telling them how to be really bad guy, how to 638 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: how to be bad guys because we're not accepted it, 639 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: you know. So we started beating people Brent Mothsburg to 640 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: get on the thing the commentator. These fucking guys are horrible. 641 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: They can't never beat nobody. Cause we won, we wanted. 642 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 3: We wasn't knowing to day we won Nebraska in Oklahoma, 643 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: you know, the chosen motherfuckers. So you know, they just 644 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: took on us against the world mentalogy and so that 645 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: that's how all that ship ended up going in the bandannas, 646 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: you know, because I had a bandanna on stage, you know, 647 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: my fucking outlaw. So they became outlaws. You know, everything 648 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: that they they lived, you know, they lived, they lived 649 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: what we were living through football. 650 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine being you know, because I was in 651 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: LA and I got a chance to kick it with 652 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: Snoop a little bit during that time in the late nineties. 653 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 2: But you was really instrumental day, like one of the 654 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: biggest stars in the world, Like fucking with these kind 655 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 2: of it probably had to just be unbelievable because obviously 656 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 2: you gave him access to your lifestyle, yeah, and the 657 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 2: things you worked really hard for. And as an eighteen 658 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: nineteen year old kid coming from nothing after that, shit 659 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: was just a dream come true. 660 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean shit, they would be at the house, 661 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 4: you name it. 662 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 3: But but it was it was really having them understand 663 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 3: that marketability, the opportunity, you know, the opportunity you got. 664 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 3: And then at the same time, now they make a 665 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 3: headway he could take them and all running through the ship. 666 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 3: Now they took it to a whole nother fucking level, 667 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 3: you know, on the field, and it was like, I mean, 668 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 3: coaches can control it. 669 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 4: But then they were whooping asses. 670 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: I mean, like you say, Jerome Brown warn Sap saping Sap. 671 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: I used to that mother was so crazy. He had 672 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 3: to go with me on the weekend when I did show, 673 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 3: was the coach like, hey, go ahead, so it won't Yeah, 674 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 3: it's just long short to practice on Monday. 675 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: So, I mean, you know Jerome Brown saying thing. 676 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 3: I mean that he was the actual cornerstone up it all. 677 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: I mean they you know, that's why all I went 678 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: at ninety nine. You gotta be a bad motherfucker. And 679 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 3: then when he passed, you know, yeah, that was that 680 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 3: was the dude. 681 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 4: That was that dude. Yeah, yeah, that was Yeah. 682 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 5: What memories do you have of the Heat becoming expansion 683 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 5: team in the late eighties. That was right around to 684 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:34,959 Speaker 5: Live Cruise Peak. 685 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you see me with me and Park with 686 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 4: the jersey I got money jersey. Oh we want ship. 687 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 3: We were playing in fucking uh America at lasts Arenda 688 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 3: with the rats running around that motherfucker. He but no, 689 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 3: I mean when I always because I always was a 690 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: lake A fan. You feel me, I'm I'm straight Laker, 691 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 3: you know, before we got a team, and then at 692 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 3: the end of the day, you know, I'm like the Heat. 693 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 3: So I mean that whole thing was amazing because they 694 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 3: had motherfuckers out that that really was wasn't good football 695 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 3: basketball players they were here, and then they got caught 696 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 3: up in this ship and they were partying, you know 697 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 698 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 4: So then it kind of changed. 699 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: When Cyclic came along. Sherman Douglas came along, a big plane. Now, 700 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 3: god damn military plane. You know, it's so many stories. 701 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 3: I remember when Sherman Dougglas got beat up. Hey, hey, 702 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: he got in a fight with another motherfucker. The motherfucker 703 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 3: went to the lights, so both of them got kicked out. 704 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: Sherman Douglas came out to be butt naked, you know, 705 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 3: in the middle of the court. You know, he's the 706 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 3: man beating what he had all the sob bro, I 707 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 3: seen so much ship, you know, and because you know 708 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 3: all the heat players that were my dudes, you know, 709 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 3: you know, and then we got to the point like 710 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 3: even when Keith asking Bimbo Cots and all them played. 711 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: So every time you got drafted by the here, you 712 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 3: had to come to my club, and then you had 713 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 3: to drink more shots than the last motherfucker who got drafted. Yeah, 714 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 3: so I had a whole initiation, motherfucker said. But no, 715 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 3: it was crazy. I mean when Psychlly was there, it 716 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 3: kind of started changing me. And Steve Smith. 717 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 4: That was my god, that's my nigga there. 718 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 3: So me and Steve Smith became like real, real close 719 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 3: friends and all that, and I just I was always 720 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: there with them dudes, even when when d Wade came 721 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 3: down here when he got drafted, I mean d Wade 722 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: and his white T shirt on the handbacas and Ship 723 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: he got d Wade. Then they were laughing about that 724 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 3: the other day. You're not the d Wade, you know 725 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: that I had to take around. 726 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,439 Speaker 4: I'm taking this motherfucker to the club. Groom. Don't fuck 727 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 4: with the holes over here now, but do this over there, 728 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 4: don't do this here this way. You move, man, you 729 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 4: know what I'm like. You knows that. 730 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Ship, that's why I love to see where. Yeah, 731 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 3: but that whole expansion and when they came, you know, 732 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 3: and how they moved and start winning. You know, it's 733 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 3: like being at the beginning. I had like I was 734 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 3: number three hundred and forty nine, first person to buy 735 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 3: a season ticket, you know, I still got the ticket 736 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 3: in and what you call it, Yeah, it. 737 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 4: Was it was Ron Rothstein and shipped the coach. You 738 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 4: had any run ins with the Godfather bat No, not really, 739 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 4: not really y'u. 740 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we would getting started running, motherfucker. They Hey, 741 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 3: they used to call it the Run Nigga Run program. 742 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: Man. 743 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 4: I tried out. 744 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 3: I looked I came for you know how that had 745 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 3: the camp before the actual training camp, the camp. Man, 746 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 3: I didn't make it through that ship. I'm going up like, yeah, 747 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: Miami d detained me. I need to be one party. 748 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 4: Hey. 749 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: Keith told me one time, he said, man, we had 750 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 3: to go down south to get certain type of shoes. 751 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 3: If they had to get shoes made running shoes because 752 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 3: they used to run them. Tell you some stories about 753 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 3: real quick bad jack. 754 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: Let me to cut you off, PSI. 755 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 4: Each other. Yeah that's my dude. Yeah, Park. When Park 756 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 4: used to ride around with Digital Underground. 757 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 3: You know, I always you know, I always vibe with 758 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: the actual celebrity, but I always vibe more with the 759 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: guys who hung around because I kind of knew that 760 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 3: you know where you're trying to go. You know, you 761 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: don't show them love because everybody the celebrity mother, but 762 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 3: what you're trying to do young fellas. 763 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 4: So then me and him we just like everywhere we 764 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 4: would go. If we saw each other on tour, then we. 765 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 3: Will find our way some kind of way, in some 766 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 3: kind of conversational session because we had so much in 767 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 3: common when it comes to that black panther thing and 768 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: all that in the movement. So we would end up 769 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 3: having those deep conversations. And then when he started blowing up, 770 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: you know, uh, you know, I saw the two different parts, 771 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 3: you know, and I always could have a conversation with him. 772 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 4: So he started blowing up, cut you off. 773 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: But you was one person that could really sit down 774 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: and talk to me, and he understood. 775 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it was you know again, it's like 776 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 3: mentoring dudes, you know, because you know, sometimes we get 777 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 3: big and then we get big, lose you lose sight. 778 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: So it'd be like, hey, sow the fuck down, you 779 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So we would have those kind 780 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 3: of conversations. 781 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 4: Uh. You know, channel is ship in the right way, 782 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 4: you know, because he you know, when people seeing him, 783 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,479 Speaker 4: he always in life for the party. He always gonna 784 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 4: talk shit. He got that Napoleon complex, you know, that motherfucker. 785 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 4: He gonna he's gonna be fun. But you know, I 786 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 4: love that motherfucker. 787 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: You know. 788 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 4: Even with that whole beef thing was going on, I 789 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 4: was trying to squash that ship. 790 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: I said, you were instrumental trying to break that up. 791 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know just what happened with that? 792 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean you have to give but I 793 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: mean I'm a huge fan. We come from that era, 794 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 2: so to know that you were the one that was 795 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: really trying to like stop this, How did that go? 796 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 4: Who would you talk to? How to go? Well? I 797 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 4: talked to both of them, you know, because we don't 798 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 4: do no Pok slammed on this show. No you can't 799 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 4: do that, nigga there. Yeah, No, I talked to both 800 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 4: of them. I mean both of them. You know, they 801 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 4: they were It's different. They were friends, you know, they 802 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 4: love each other. You know. 803 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 3: It was like a two friends break up, you know, 804 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 3: and like, Nigga, you know you love that motherfucker that 805 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 3: you know, you love him, you feel me in and so. 806 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 4: That's what it was. 807 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 3: But then what I always told him and anybody will 808 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 3: get into that ship, like even when I had, you know, 809 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 3: with that this other ship that went on lately, you know, 810 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not gonna be the motherfuckers now the media, Yeah, yeah, 811 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 3: the fans are gonna get involved thinking. 812 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,800 Speaker 4: That they're doing something on behalf of you, you know, 813 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 4: so you got to kind of let that ship. 814 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 3: You gotta let that ship chill, because you know, you 815 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 3: hate motherfuckers out there. They want to do something anyway 816 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 3: you feel me. Yeah, they wait, they want to be involved, 817 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 3: show that they're involved. 818 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, show crash dummies around that time. You can tell 819 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 4: me if you know or not. Was Madonna frequently around 820 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 4: doing her thing with the players? Yeah, she was down here. 821 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeah that's that's that's what I wanted to hear because 822 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 3: I heard she was down and get droned. 823 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, they ran through. Yeah, she had to leave. 824 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 3: I heard you down and a lot of people think 825 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 3: this ship country when they come down here. 826 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 4: Oh ship, don't get a country, motherfucker. I'm gonna just run. 827 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 4: And then you get ran through. Mm hm. You know. 828 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 4: So one of my basketball friends, I left him in 829 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 4: the house. He say smash. Yeah all right, my man, 830 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 4: my man. I took all the basketball players. Yeah. I 831 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 4: made sure there was straight, you know, make sure Willie 832 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 4: Burton went straight. But he he gotta gotta live out 833 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 4: of control. Yeah, he met. I would have lost it 834 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,479 Speaker 4: to look WILLI lost. 835 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 3: I said, Willie go down there and knock her down. 836 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 3: But don't go nowhere with him, No, because she became 837 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 3: a dancer. 838 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 4: One girl. So I gotta I had to get other friend, 839 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 4: Dan cold careful. I had to take our other friend 840 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 4: and being careful off of Cliff West. 841 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 2: West, she's not for you, She for the team, for 842 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: the streets, and y'all continue this. 843 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,800 Speaker 4: I knew that. I knew that stands. He got to 844 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 4: place up real quick. 845 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,439 Speaker 1: Go ahead, y'all keep talking. 846 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 4: Though I knew what was going on. 847 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,959 Speaker 3: I said, West, you can't keep on our good friend worldwide. West, 848 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 3: you can't keep She's not for you, She's not right 849 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 3: brought it. She ended up signed up on the team 850 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 3: and on the boat big sitting there making the song 851 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 3: deep throat on loop boat when it's moon rises, I'm 852 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 3: coming in the eyes and you go downstairs. 853 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 4: Then you fucking lose your mind, taking the Philly. 854 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:28,479 Speaker 3: Funk, your whole career up. Push it undefeated. I gotta 855 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: agree to that to some people who can't. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, 856 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 3: but it it knocked all. 857 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,919 Speaker 4: I'm telling you the nice version of these stories. Yeah, 858 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 4: I know, I know, I know, I know. Pus in 859 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,680 Speaker 4: the knocked us all of us out the one time, 860 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 4: put us all asleep. Yeah, costs all a lot of. 861 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 3: A lot of um back then, and we get older, 862 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 3: we get it was around like skills back then. I 863 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 3: just I just just the alpha cover, the the what 864 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 3: was the light skinned doing in the group name brother? 865 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 3: Like an Asian that was fresh kid Ice, Fresh care Ice. 866 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 5: He has some chick that he's standing next to on 867 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 5: an album cover, And as a youngster, when you're looking 868 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 5: at that, you're. 869 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 4: Like, God, damn, like, what are we doing? I need 870 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 4: to be like that? Where is she at? Where Ship at? 871 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 4: Bron Yeah? No, the girls were? The girls were? Did 872 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 4: you do Freaknik? Yeah, I'm one of the architects. I 873 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 4: already know. I already know. I actually was the one 874 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 4: who produced the TV show. I knew that. I knew that. 875 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 3: You know, Free Nick was a nice little innocent party. 876 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 3: And then you know, I'm thinking, that's why I need 877 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 3: to be. Somebody booked me and Ship. If it's anything 878 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 3: dealing with freaks, I gotta be there. 879 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know. Now I gotta go and show y'all 880 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 4: how to freaking really supposed to be? Should I get that? 881 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 3: The motherfuckers in the park have a nice little picnic. 882 00:45:58,280 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck this, y'all. 883 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 4: Call the thing freak Nick, We're gonna get the freaking 884 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 4: going on. Yeah, and then it went to a whole 885 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 4: other level. 886 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 3: Year after year after year, people started really freaking Cappa 887 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 3: Beach Party. 888 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 4: You've been there? Oh hell yeah, I got all the footage. Hey, 889 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 4: I heard. 890 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: Nah, So I was a youngster, So you know that's 891 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: right up the street from us. 892 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 4: I've been Texas. Yeah, you you gathered. I couldn't. 893 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 3: I couldn't as a youngster, you know, Oh you win there. 894 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 3: I couldn't get that. I was still I got the footage. Man, 895 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 3: I heard that motherfucking used to be out off the chain. 896 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and it was on the beach. I went there, 897 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 3: turned that mother forger out. Oh yeah, I heard about that. 898 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 3: You had Cappa Beach Party in Galveston, then you had 899 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 3: Murder Beach, Then you had Daytona Beach. 900 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 901 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,439 Speaker 3: Oh no, Daytona Beach was a Black college spring break. 902 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,120 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh that shit was something serious Black college 903 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 3: spring break. And then you had Atlanta and the freaking 904 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 3: So I turned out all them places. When I started 905 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 3: thinking about doing my movies, I can't put all the 906 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 3: ship in one movie. 907 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 4: So you're gonna lose a lot. 908 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 3: You feel me and so Freaknik was a major part 909 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 3: of my career and I was like, let me carved 910 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 3: that out and do this. And so eventually we put 911 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 3: it together, got them to shoot it, uh, teams up, 912 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 3: teamed up with that with nas them Company, and it 913 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 3: came out real good. Most people thought they were gonna 914 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 3: see their man mama on there around I teased the 915 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 3: ship out of it, like yeah, I'm gonna show your 916 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 3: mama on this motherfucker, and all the mamas talking about 917 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 3: oh we judges and ship were lawyers, people life, just 918 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 3: like everybody was on nervous. 919 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, I do have the. 920 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 3: Footage of their mama, you know, and ship everything and 921 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 3: a lot of other people feel shit. So we we 922 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 3: made it where people really understood, you know, the culture, 923 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 3: like history, how Atlanta Tho became this entertainment capital of 924 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 3: the world through Freaknick, the trials and tribulations, how they 925 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 3: shut down events like Capital a week in all type 926 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 3: of stuffy. It all was insane. Bro Capita Beach Party 927 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 3: used to be so fired up. It used to be 928 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 3: a traffic from Houston all the way to Galveston, and 929 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 3: they righted up. But it's a line. The traffic is 930 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 3: from the beach all the way to the It was crazy, bro. 931 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 3: If you got to get police escored to get in there. 932 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 4: Yeah that she used to be crazy. I never got 933 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 4: to change experience about my big home. Oh well, I'll 934 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 4: just show you some of the village. Yeah, I need 935 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 4: to see that. Can you tell me about the most 936 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 4: legendary boat party? 937 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: You said you had a lot of them. What's the 938 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: one on the mind. If you can tell me, he 939 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: could tell us. 940 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 4: I had one party actually smooth basketball shit, now tumble. 941 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 3: We were on the boat and Maria yeah, yeah, And 942 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 3: I had this boat party he spent was on the 943 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 3: in that river on Maryland, DC, and the fucking man, 944 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,800 Speaker 3: it was like one the boat never. 945 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 4: Left, Doc. This is how bad this ship was. Brought 946 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 4: out the strippers on the boat. 947 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 3: They got naked. They swinging on the poles. They didn't 948 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 3: turn the ship to hold up the boat into poles. 949 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 3: One of us are naked. Everybody losing their mind. You know, 950 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,720 Speaker 3: people started getting naked. So that was one crazy. Another 951 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 3: one was me and Big and you know that's I 952 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 3: ended up buying a boat and we would go in there, 953 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 3: call it sacrifice weekend and all kinds of shit. Everybody 954 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 3: would be naked, jumping in the lake, jumping in the ocean, 955 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 3: naked with the life wrath on. 956 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 4: I mean it was crazy, you know. So you had 957 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 4: that that used to happen like at least once a month. 958 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 4: What other boot party? 959 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: What was your what was your secret sauce to just 960 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: keeping it fun and and and just the thing to be. 961 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 2: And obviously on the flip side, we've seen all the 962 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,920 Speaker 2: ship going on with with Puff in his situations like 963 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,040 Speaker 2: what was you had the secret sauce because it was 964 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 2: fun in the state that way. 965 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 3: Well, the thing is most most people wouldn't know what 966 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 3: you're getting, like me, and you have to Larry Flint. 967 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 3: If you go there, you have to imagine which everybody 968 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 3: you know was happy to go. They understood what it 969 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 3: was all about. That's what was in his magazine. You 970 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, And that's what I'm rapping about. 971 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 3: So if you hanging out with us and you come 972 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 3: to a party, you know the ship. But then we 973 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 3: never we never went too crazy. 974 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 4: We did we had fun, but you know, we we 975 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 4: partied with a purpose. 976 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 3: Everybody was down with it. You know, everybody enjoyed itself. 977 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 3: It wasn't no, no violation or nothing. 978 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 4: They weren't no. It wasn't no to make sure you 979 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 4: be with it by the end of the night. Now 980 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 4: with none of that exactly. So so again it was 981 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 4: we just we had fun and ship turned into one 982 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 4: thing and turned into one thing, you know, but it 983 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 4: was it was no different than the frat party, you know, 984 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 4: our bachelor party. You know. 985 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 3: That's why you know I can't I'm saying that. You know, 986 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 3: they didn't never come and consult with me, because you know, 987 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 3: when you try to do certain things like if I 988 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 3: want to be a basketball player, I'm on consult with 989 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 3: a basketball players. 990 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 4: This is what I really want to fuck with. And 991 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,560 Speaker 4: then you're gonna tell me some hard stories. Yeah, and 992 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 4: I might want not want to do that, but I 993 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 4: know how to do it the right way. If I 994 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,240 Speaker 4: did current hip hop topics. 995 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 5: You said in twenty twenty four, I'm gonna expose some 996 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 5: of these gatekeeper motherfuckers house. 997 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 4: Old were which want what you're saying. 998 00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 3: The thing is, let me tell you this, ire and 999 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,760 Speaker 3: our business is real politics. There's a bunch of politics 1000 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 3: in our business. And you look at it right now. 1001 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 3: You look at it right now, You got the Kanye 1002 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 3: Weston's in the world exposed people. You got Puff going 1003 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 3: through his ship, all that politics. You know, it's all political. 1004 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 3: It's all who you fucked with. And when they push 1005 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 3: you out the crowd and they push you out the 1006 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 3: crowd and the conversation, you got to know how to 1007 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 3: handle it, you know. And I think them dudes, I 1008 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, them dudes doing more exposing of people 1009 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 3: than anybody. 1010 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 4: Right. 1011 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 3: You see record executives quitting and ship you see you know, 1012 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,479 Speaker 3: major corporations losing money. 1013 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 5: What's your take on Lil Wayne and getting the super 1014 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 5: Bowl snub with the super Bowl being in New Orleans. 1015 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 4: That's kind of hard. They deserve it. He deserve it. 1016 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 4: But Kendrick do too. Lil Wayne is over there with Drake. 1017 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 4: It's not going on. There's a lot of things going 1018 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 4: on with that. 1019 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 3: And now you go, I mean, you know, it's I 1020 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 3: feel bad for Lil Wayne because I understand he caught 1021 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 3: up in it. 1022 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,359 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, because they did the same thing down here. 1023 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 3: And I have to have a conversation with jay Z 1024 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,879 Speaker 3: when they had the Jennifer Lopez and a Million Girl 1025 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 3: and the commercials, like yeah. 1026 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 4: Twoper Boy in Miami the Latin flavor, Like y'all say, 1027 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:35,440 Speaker 4: fuck the niggas. 1028 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, no, we we have we have you know, 1029 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 3: we got wrongs, we got trick, we got even pitt, 1030 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 3: we got we got. 1031 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,320 Speaker 4: Hip hop in this mother. So y'all just totally the 1032 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 4: reason behind that. 1033 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 3: I mean what he said was, oh, well, you know, 1034 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 3: the Latino community in the black community together. 1035 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, Jay, this mean you talking this me? 1036 00:53:59,080 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 4: Who you talking to? 1037 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 3: You know, I would talk to you just as I 1038 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,240 Speaker 3: got talked to Park when you was hanging around with Biggie. 1039 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 4: Goddamnit. 1040 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 3: D Okay, Now we ain't talking about no politics shit, 1041 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 3: you feel me. So then they promised to do some things. 1042 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 3: You know, he kind of understood U where I was 1043 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,280 Speaker 3: coming from. I say, you can't fucking disrespect the culture. 1044 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 3: You can have these girls, Yes, we all Latino community, 1045 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 3: but we're also Latino and hip hop. 1046 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 4: It's a way you could do it to show respect 1047 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 4: to everybody. You know. And they had the same issue 1048 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,720 Speaker 4: in Atlanta at one time. So then they you can't 1049 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 4: snub the local artists. 1050 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 3: You know, you got to be able to bring them 1051 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 3: two together. Even you know hein Kendrick. If you didn't 1052 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,840 Speaker 3: do Lil Wayne. You know, Kendrick ain't got no problem 1053 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 3: with master p. You know what I'm saying. You know, 1054 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 3: there's a whole shitload of artists from Louisiana that you 1055 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 3: could have fucked with, you know, to see that tank 1056 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 3: go up there to. 1057 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 2: But you know why why have faith this Because Kendrick 1058 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 2: always shows love to everybody. 1059 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 4: He does. 1060 00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 2: He shows love to everybody. So I feel like they 1061 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 2: gonna cook something up that's gonna satisfy people. 1062 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I just hate that it happened 1063 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 4: that way. 1064 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 3: It happened that way, and I'm looking at the way 1065 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 3: and having meltdowns and ship you know. 1066 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,920 Speaker 2: That was you know, that's he's a rock star, you know. 1067 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,720 Speaker 2: To me, I looked at the bout me. I'm West Coast, 1068 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I'm sure Kim's gonna 1069 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 2: put on a great show. But I'm also a huge 1070 00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,439 Speaker 2: Wayne fan. And to me, I thought, it's his body 1071 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 2: at work, what he's meant to the city, how he 1072 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 2: you know, carried him. Since the team, you know, helped 1073 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 2: carry him as a teenager, it could have been a 1074 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 2: perfect way to ride off in the sunset. 1075 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, in his legendary status. And I'm still hoping that 1076 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 4: some way, you know, it's a moment it will mean 1077 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 4: it will be. 1078 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm hoping that that, you know, because you're like, say, 1079 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 3: can that's a good dude. You know, I know him 1080 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 3: from meeting him a couple of times. I mean just 1081 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 3: genuinely good people's you know. 1082 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean at some point into like like 1083 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 5: Drake and like it's some of his people, it's my family. 1084 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know Kendrick at all, but. 1085 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 5: The album and the songs he making an unreal So 1086 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 5: it's it's just undeniavel. 1087 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 4: You can't deny time this music. Bro, you can't. You can't, 1088 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,360 Speaker 4: So you know what I'm saying. So I know you 1089 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 4: gotta have it, but you gotta. 1090 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 3: But people gotta find a way to just enjoy both 1091 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 3: of them and not try to be feel like, oh, 1092 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 3: if I say something bad about Drake, then Kendrick gonna 1093 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,080 Speaker 3: call me and tell me thank you. That's not gonna happen, bro, 1094 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 3: Kendrick don't even know. You know, we just enjoyed ship. 1095 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 3: Just enjoy If you like someone, you have to dislike 1096 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 3: somebody else, and that shouldn't be the case. 1097 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 4: That shouldn't be both their music. 1098 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,320 Speaker 3: But and it wasn't the case when Drake was bodying 1099 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 3: and everybody right, you still fuck with me and everybody 1100 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 3: still you know what I'm saying. 1101 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 4: So if you bodying, people expect now if you get bodied, then. 1102 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 3: Goddamn it, okay you it shouldn't be Okay you fuck 1103 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 3: with him, I ain't fucking with you, and hell yeah 1104 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 3: take the heir and it. 1105 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 5: Should it should go back like back in the day. 1106 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 5: You beat me up, I call the police. I'm a 1107 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 5: fucking nigga that you banned from the hood. 1108 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,839 Speaker 1: He's have to fight to get mine. 1109 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 4: But that's similar the words said what Drake doing. 1110 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,040 Speaker 1: Though you're suing after you've lost a rap battle. 1111 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 4: Now, you don't supposed to do that. 1112 00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 3: That's that's you that there are some things in the 1113 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 3: music business that you don't talk about. 1114 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 4: That's been in the music business forever. 1115 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 3: And the two things that he's suing about, it's things 1116 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 3: that back in the days would have got you killed. 1117 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, real talking, Yeah, I mean mom, not no other rapper. 1118 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 3: You feel me, because when you talk about Payola, you 1119 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 3: know who ran that. You know you don't talk about that. Yeah, 1120 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,280 Speaker 3: you know do a lot of things exist then it exists. 1121 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 3: Now when you talk about buying streams, back then, they 1122 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 3: would say that you're scanning. 1123 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 4: A record, like we go and get this and and 1124 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 4: and so I give the record store. 1125 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 3: A thousand copies for free, and you scan this motherfucker 1126 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 3: not my shit, the number one record, you know, So 1127 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 3: that ain't no different than buying streams, which some people 1128 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 3: do that, but not that motherfucker song. Right, that's it 1129 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 3: didn't have to that song. Now, you ain't got to 1130 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,840 Speaker 3: buno stream stream for that shit. That shit is is 1131 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 3: the ship. You know, that's a national anthem. So that 1132 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,120 Speaker 3: then go and say all that to try to discredit 1133 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 3: the man work. 1134 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 4: That's not good. 1135 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 3: And I hope he you know, that's some lawyers affing 1136 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 3: you up with some bullshit to try to get them 1137 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 3: a bag. 1138 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 4: You need to kind of lead that shit alone. That's 1139 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:45,479 Speaker 4: my question. 1140 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, are you is he opening up Pandora's box? 1141 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 2: You know we saw you know, someone told me last 1142 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 2: year that you know, watch out for Diddy because he's 1143 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 2: they say he was biting a hand to fed him 1144 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 2: with the alcohol. 1145 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 4: Shit. 1146 00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 2: And then once that kind of stuff everything starts opening up. 1147 00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 2: Is Drake marking up a tree that's gonna open up 1148 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 2: some ship that can really have him as some. 1149 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 4: Long term yeah problem. 1150 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because a lot of powerful people. 1151 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 3: Because when you when you talk about Payolerttle, you'll talk 1152 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 3: about every radio station in the country program director. You're 1153 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 3: saying he's getting paid to play a record that you 1154 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 3: don't talk about. You're fucking with somebody livelihood. They will 1155 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,919 Speaker 3: shut you down, they won't play your shit. 1156 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,080 Speaker 4: You feel me when you. 1157 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 3: Talk about streams, Yeah, you can get away with that 1158 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 3: because it ain't like you're dealing with a record store 1159 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 3: like back in the days. 1160 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 4: You know, those are things that you don't really discuss. 1161 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 3: You know, you'll you'll get black ball real quick, real fast, 1162 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 3: and you'll be just subjected to. 1163 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,880 Speaker 4: Whatever you do on the underground. You know. 1164 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,960 Speaker 3: So that watch, you know the guy's real talent it 1165 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 3: and I just hope he's just back off of that 1166 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 3: shit there. 1167 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 4: Leave that part of Yeah, you know, go do your 1168 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 4: motherfucking this record. You don't go in the studio, yo, 1169 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 4: I mean keep swinging, keep swinging. I mean shit, Snoop 1170 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 4: Dogg did this record. He did this record on me. 1171 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:09,280 Speaker 4: I did it. 1172 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 3: This record of Snoop Dogg. He sh was more popular. 1173 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:16,280 Speaker 3: Snoop became an iconic figure off his record with me. 1174 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,880 Speaker 3: We ended up becoming fucking friends. 1175 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We like best of friends 1176 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 4: right now. You share a lot of things in time 1177 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 4: that we do. Y'all made it, you know, and so, 1178 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 4: but you don't get you. 1179 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 3: Don't get that much of your feelings where you're trying 1180 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 3: to sue a motherfucker. 1181 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,920 Speaker 2: You said a lot of people that understand the business 1182 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 2: said you've been the most underrated executive and a court 1183 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 2: from me. I put myself on the level of Jimmy, 1184 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 2: I Bean and them kind of guys, but obviously didn't 1185 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 2: get the recognition, the credit, everything that came with what 1186 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 2: you did. Why was that coming from Miami? 1187 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 4: One thing? 1188 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 3: When I did got to the point where I was 1189 01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:00,960 Speaker 3: getting a recognition, I did a deal with Atlantic Records. 1190 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 4: When I went into the room, it was. 1191 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 3: Me, Craig Klemon, it was Jimmy. I mean, we were 1192 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:15,800 Speaker 3: the young guns. We were the new rookies coming in. 1193 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 4: This was ship ninety one. 1194 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 3: So Craig, who runs Atlantic Record, he had he had 1195 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 3: he was doing house music in Chicago. 1196 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 4: Jimmy was doing his music in La. So we were 1197 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 4: the young I was doing my ship selling them. We're 1198 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 4: all selling a bunch. 1199 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 3: Of shit, but independently, and so they bring us in 1200 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 3: there like YouTube, y'all three months gonna run the ship, right, 1201 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 3: So me, obviously the black guy, I didn't. 1202 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 4: Do my deal with Atlantic. You had Sylvia Rohne, who 1203 01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 4: was running the whole mark in the promotion. 1204 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 3: Department, lady you know black, you know, Nopie and lady, 1205 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 3: and I always heard whispers that she had a problem 1206 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 3: with what we were doing. Because a lot of the 1207 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 3: industry had a problem with what we were doing. BT 1208 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 3: wouldn't play more fucking videos. Certain radio stage wann't play 1209 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 3: the records. 1210 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 4: You know. 1211 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 3: So that's why we kind of got harder, you know, 1212 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 3: because we lived off the underground video juke box was 1213 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 3: the only motherfucker playing twenty three. 1214 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 1: You remember that ship was on twenty three. 1215 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 4: Bro, you spent a lot of money. You saw them 1216 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 4: finance motherfucking girls on South. 1217 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 2: I think, I'm like ten, eleven, twelve, this is a lot. 1218 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going through puberty watching your ship. 1219 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:45,560 Speaker 4: I got your mind right, I got your juke box 1220 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 4: cut it out. 1221 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 3: So you had that going on so that's how we 1222 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 3: would get our music promoted visually. Uh And you know, 1223 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 3: like I said, you know she before I e been, 1224 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 3: I mean the man gave me, I mean check, and 1225 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 3: I said, before I take this and sign this contract 1226 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,040 Speaker 3: and go around the corner. Had this conversation with this 1227 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 3: lady because I know she runs She's a very powerful 1228 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 3: black woman in the business, and she runs the marketing 1229 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 3: department here Atlantic. Let me get a blessing. They thought 1230 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 3: I was crazy, like, motherfucker, you gotta find me and 1231 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 3: out of check right there, get this motherfucker money. So 1232 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 3: I went around there and I was like, look, I 1233 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 3: want to do this shit. Let's me and you gona 1234 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 3: be able to work together. Obviously she said yeah because 1235 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 3: she was working for these people. But it didn't end 1236 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 3: that way. 1237 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 4: It was more of crushing what we were doing. 1238 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 3: So that relationship with that label at that time didn't 1239 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 3: last that long and then I went back straight independent. 1240 01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 3: So that was the band in the USA album and 1241 01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 3: maybe one other album that I ran through there. So 1242 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 3: that wasn't good, you know, And that's when I went 1243 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 3: in found as Time and all them, because it was like, yeah, 1244 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 3: you motherfuckers don't even know what y'all, y'all fucked up. 1245 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do R and B right now. I'm gonna 1246 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 3: show you motherfuckers, y'all. You know, I'm gonna show you 1247 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 3: how verse stile I could be. Yeah, and then I 1248 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 3: did that ship and thenn't. Yeah, it was like okay, 1249 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 3: well but. 1250 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 4: You're thinking about it too. Not to cut you off. 1251 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: Chtown is underrated too when it comes to uh single roots. 1252 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 4: Hell yeah, man, yeah, because they didn't have a big machine. 1253 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 4: I wasn't the big machine you know I was doing. 1254 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,520 Speaker 4: Just had good music. I was had good music music here, 1255 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 4: independent label music machine. 1256 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 3: So they didn't get the yeah marcial success that man. Yeah, 1257 01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 3: Acetown was the ship. 1258 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 2: Talk to us about it's not even on there, but 1259 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,440 Speaker 2: talk to us about was it an off like what 1260 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 2: was off shores and and and where you set up 1261 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 2: shop to make sure you were pretty much is not 1262 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 2: being fun with on on on on the soils, Yeah, 1263 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 2: off the grid, Yeah, I was definitely talk talk to us. 1264 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 2: I created underground radio stations. 1265 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 3: I couldn't give a record player, and so I would 1266 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 3: go to we would go to England and do shows. 1267 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 3: We would do acid parties back then, not take acid, 1268 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:12,360 Speaker 3: but they called the massive parties. So how they would 1269 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 3: communicate was through underground radio stations. So I learned that 1270 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 3: over there, brought that shit here. Start doing music, Start 1271 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,200 Speaker 3: creating these underground stations, playing online. 1272 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:25,920 Speaker 4: Records, do that. 1273 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 3: So we had to do that that way, then create 1274 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 3: a whole nother underground of going to college radio. Get 1275 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,840 Speaker 3: these college students a couple of dollars because they was 1276 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,520 Speaker 3: hurting a jacket. They became my record promoters. So I 1277 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 3: kind of did it in a strategy way where I 1278 01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 3: knew that. It was like, yo, I'm straight underground. That's 1279 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,439 Speaker 3: the only way I could do this stuff. 1280 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: Other ventures such as the porn industry. 1281 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 4: What was that like? That was my worst hit. That 1282 01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 4: was my worst investment. I got it. 1283 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,200 Speaker 3: I was in that ship for a short period of 1284 01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 3: time and I was like this, ain't you know, hey, 1285 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the parties and all that. 1286 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 4: I went in and the dude shot it. We shot 1287 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,320 Speaker 4: one movie. Now I wasn't in the movie, but I was. 1288 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,680 Speaker 4: I was paid for the production of it, and they 1289 01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,560 Speaker 4: was in there. I was like, man, this ship did 1290 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:23,960 Speaker 4: wild fue crazy. I was like, this is a meat market. 1291 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 4: And that was short lived for me. 1292 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 3: That is probably one of the most you know again, 1293 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,439 Speaker 3: because I always thought, Okay, I'm gonna transition, be back, 1294 01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 3: you have to, but be better. 1295 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 4: So it's obvious the product people want to see. 1296 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 3: Some nah no, no, no no. 1297 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 4: I was like, no, this ain't for me. 1298 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 3: You know. 1299 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 4: I did a couple of strip clubs. I love strip. Yes, 1300 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 4: you gotta love strip. Man Jersey they getting naked in Jersey. No, 1301 01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 4: my jersey's retired and hanging jersey. Oh you he made, 1302 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 4: he made? What's your favorite strip? Wealthy? I would have 1303 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 4: to say either. 1304 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Magic City in the early two thousands or. 1305 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 4: Tusies. No, King of Diamonds. 1306 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 3: King of Diamonds was later on. Yeah, I say King 1307 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 3: of Diamonds was later on, but I got some King 1308 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 3: of Diamonds old, no, no, no, you you you new Tussies, 1309 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,960 Speaker 3: you new toutsies. I love the big Tussy. 1310 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 4: Yes. 1311 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 3: That's how I actually got the idea of the visuals 1312 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 3: the small Tossies because I was doing parties at at 1313 01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,840 Speaker 3: the skate Rin across the street. Yeah, and the bounces 1314 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 3: was white and they said I gotta take you over here. 1315 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 3: I said, niggas don't go in strip clubs. That's some 1316 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 3: motorcycle ship man back then one another us. I went 1317 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 3: in there, I saw that ship I said, oh. 1318 01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 4: I got another idea. Well I ain't, so then I'm 1319 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:02,600 Speaker 4: doing music. 1320 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 3: Then that's when I put the girls in the videos 1321 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 3: dancing like strippers. Yeah, so then you know I had, 1322 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 3: you know, girls, some big answers obvious. But then I 1323 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 3: would take the model chicks and shoot their face and 1324 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:21,520 Speaker 3: shoot the ugly girls. Ass I'm sorry, like the bartender, 1325 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 3: I'll shoot her face and they ain't gonna get another 1326 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 3: girl with the same complex. Yeah, yeah, come on, and 1327 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 3: then get you motivated on twenty three. 1328 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:37,439 Speaker 4: Post up Boy started on himself twenty three. 1329 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 1: June twenty three on the juke Bostle. 1330 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 4: You too young? 1331 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 1: My brother's like four years younger than me. 1332 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, Matt was the only one knocking himself down. 1333 01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: Watch the twenty three my dad under the table one. 1334 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,920 Speaker 4: I snapped them on. 1335 01:08:54,120 --> 01:09:02,760 Speaker 2: So come on, it was they look knocking themselves down with. 1336 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 3: That. 1337 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 4: Give me right there, What the are you doing? I 1338 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 4: seen them This motherfucker to be who I was. 1339 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,920 Speaker 3: Hey, that's why that's when people were telling me you're 1340 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,679 Speaker 3: corrupting the minds of young people. 1341 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 1: He was building them. 1342 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying you was nourishing. I'm molding them 1343 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 4: and giving confidence. Yeah, I'm like mother, let me show 1344 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,000 Speaker 4: you just what you need to do with your ship 1345 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:41,880 Speaker 4: the whole time. Yeah, ain't no billy ocean. It's a 1346 01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 4: golf of Mexico. I followed it. 1347 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 3: Uh, Mayor, I love that, the crossover you ran for, Mayor, 1348 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,200 Speaker 3: tell us what what what what drove you to do 1349 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,720 Speaker 3: that and what that process was like? Man, it was 1350 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:58,439 Speaker 3: a special election. I'm heavily in the politics, you know, always, 1351 01:09:58,800 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 3: you know, like. 1352 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 4: Me and Q. We would always add these set downs 1353 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,040 Speaker 4: back in the back. 1354 01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 3: In the days, we could only tour with each other, 1355 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 3: so the New York guys wouldn't tour with us. So 1356 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 3: it always ended up n W a two live crew. 1357 01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,960 Speaker 2: Remember your story. I'll kind of want to ask you something. 1358 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 2: Go ahead, my bask go ahead, finish. 1359 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:28,439 Speaker 3: So we know everything that was going on with us 1360 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 3: was political. They were dealing with police trying to put 1361 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 3: them in jail and shut the shit down. So we 1362 01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 3: would end up on these tours and we were sitting 1363 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 3: up by the campfire chopping l We came over the 1364 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,320 Speaker 3: ideas like we got to be involved in politics. 1365 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 4: I use our platform to motivate people to vote. 1366 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:50,439 Speaker 3: So this is in the early nineties early nineties, and 1367 01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 3: so that's where that raptor vote came from. 1368 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:58,560 Speaker 4: Q created that. Then MTV kind of hijacked it. So 1369 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 4: we were courses. 1370 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 3: We were like, we gotta get motherfuckers, because if it's 1371 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,160 Speaker 3: gonna be the chef, we gotta be. We gotta put 1372 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 3: him in office. It can't be something motherfucker want to 1373 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 3: fuck with us. You feel me, you're gonna be the 1374 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,080 Speaker 3: congress man. We gotta be involved, mayor, police chief, whatever 1375 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,160 Speaker 3: it may be. So that's how I kind of got 1376 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 3: into it. So then fast forward until later on down 1377 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 3: the line, I was like, you know, career kind of 1378 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:26,639 Speaker 3: died down a little in peace. 1379 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,840 Speaker 4: I'm gonna let me go and fuck with this mayor. 1380 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 4: It was a special election. 1381 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,600 Speaker 3: The mayor had got kicked out because he had to 1382 01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 3: do something legal shit. So it's like, it's not one 1383 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:39,799 Speaker 3: of a long election. 1384 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go in. 1385 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 3: My whole philosophy was I'm not gonna win, but I'm 1386 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 3: gonna build a base, a constituent base, speaking on behalf 1387 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,719 Speaker 3: of the issues of us, our community, young people. 1388 01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 4: You know, you know, cast bond, cash bail and shit 1389 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,960 Speaker 4: like that and all kinds. So I went in like that. 1390 01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 3: So the ship you see Trump doing on these on 1391 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 3: on on these debates, I was doing that then because 1392 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,759 Speaker 3: I pre reigned. I'm in a debate all these motherfuckers 1393 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 3: politicians just like that. He gonna fuck you, gonna fuck 1394 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,599 Speaker 3: You're gonna fucking with all the people sitting there. 1395 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Like that, I'm keeping the 1396 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 4: blood wroth, you know what I'm saying. So I already know. 1397 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 3: My whole focus was getting this base of voters that 1398 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 3: would move how I need them to move. 1399 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 4: So I started, Yeah, that's a big number. That's a 1400 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:37,879 Speaker 4: big number. Campaign. 1401 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 3: No, I had ten thousand dollars in the campaign. And 1402 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 3: then I do these articles in the Miami New Times. 1403 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 4: So that was my media. That was my newsletter to 1404 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 4: everybody in them. 1405 01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 3: Those articles were always politically motivated, and so that was 1406 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,400 Speaker 3: my way of getting the message out to all the 1407 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,600 Speaker 3: people that was my constituent. 1408 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 4: So right now, if you want to be the man 1409 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,800 Speaker 4: of Miami, you got to get me to endorse you. 1410 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,680 Speaker 3: Other than this won't happen that you want to be 1411 01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,840 Speaker 3: the congressman, you know, you gotta get o to endorse you, 1412 01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 3: so you'll come to me, and then if I endorse you, 1413 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,240 Speaker 3: then it's blasted all over the place. 1414 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,439 Speaker 4: I'll do a commercial. And so my base of people 1415 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 4: that I gathered that has grown that listen, there's a 1416 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 4: lot of people exactly different places. 1417 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 3: So then I get things. So by doing that, I'm 1418 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 3: able to get things done in my community. You know, 1419 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 3: I get Park Park rebuilt. 1420 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:37,560 Speaker 2: Well, there's a ton of money that we don't know 1421 01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 2: about until you're time behind the because it's supposed to 1422 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 2: be allocated, but they never allocated. 1423 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 3: They never allocated you to be able to be behind 1424 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 3: there and see that money and push it out exactly. 1425 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,920 Speaker 3: So all my like if you go to my facilities 1426 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,920 Speaker 3: and my youth program state of hardship because they know, 1427 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:54,640 Speaker 3: don't fuck with me. 1428 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,800 Speaker 4: Hey, look, I need this here, you know, all the 1429 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,800 Speaker 4: different places in my community. 1430 01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,440 Speaker 1: And I need it from that budget right there, exact budget. 1431 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 4: For this exactly. You're gonna go find the money. They 1432 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,200 Speaker 4: got it, yeah, because you got the money, you know, 1433 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,400 Speaker 4: and that and that's what I. 1434 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,280 Speaker 2: Love that, bro, Because I'm on the politics side, and 1435 01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,600 Speaker 2: you know, obviously we saw you sat double Kamala, We 1436 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 2: sat down on Kamala yeah, and our road to get 1437 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,320 Speaker 2: there was was a little different because Jack wasn't on it, 1438 01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 2: but I was. For the point of there's a lot 1439 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,040 Speaker 2: of people that think like you. You know, this is 1440 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,640 Speaker 2: the opportunity for you to ask or or or or 1441 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,800 Speaker 2: be around and hear, you know, answers to some of 1442 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,640 Speaker 2: your questions, because we all have similar questions. We all 1443 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 2: feel like we've been let down. But the only way 1444 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 2: to get involved, like you said, to get involved is 1445 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 2: be able to help and motivate and encourage people and 1446 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,240 Speaker 2: get people out there to vote exactly and. 1447 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:39,680 Speaker 4: That and that's the most important thing. 1448 01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 3: Like right now we getting ready to two years to 1449 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,760 Speaker 3: be a governor race and I'm really strongly thinking about 1450 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,719 Speaker 3: running for that. Most people be like, oh, that shit crazy, 1451 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,639 Speaker 3: but nah, it ain't because if you if you run, 1452 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 3: there is the possibility of winning. 1453 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 4: But then the other thing is is the messaging you 1454 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,519 Speaker 4: can go, You go to every community. You ain't looking 1455 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 4: running what is your issue? 1456 01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,320 Speaker 3: Now you didn't find out about people's issues, and you're 1457 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,600 Speaker 3: you're able to talk about those issues on on. 1458 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 4: The stage and then now you have to address those things. 1459 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,679 Speaker 2: But you're also really coming from where these people came from. 1460 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,719 Speaker 2: And a lot of people in politics came remote. Majority 1461 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 2: of these white people came from a silver spool, So 1462 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 2: how can they ever relate, you know what I mean? 1463 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 2: And people say what the truck? You know when people 1464 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 2: tell athletes and musicians to stay out of it, you're 1465 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,200 Speaker 2: rich down you don't understand, Like, well, we don't understand. 1466 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 4: How the fuck does Trump understand? You know what I mean? 1467 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 2: Like, so it's just like to me, like that's where 1468 01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 2: we came from. We're always going to speak for that. 1469 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 2: We were just lucky enough to make it out. So 1470 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 2: now we have to do something to help. 1471 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,120 Speaker 4: So now you got to use your platform too. You 1472 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 4: got If you don't use your platform, what are we doing? 1473 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:46,080 Speaker 4: Waste it? Yeah? 1474 01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,519 Speaker 1: Give me, give me the cliff notes of a tour 1475 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 1: of two Life Crew in n. 1476 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 4: W A oh shit, oh shit, wild and crazy. I 1477 01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,360 Speaker 4: could we couldn't stay in the same hotel. 1478 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 1: You couldn't say the same hotel. 1479 01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,240 Speaker 4: No, no, no, they had one movement going on in 1480 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,400 Speaker 4: their hotel. In our move we booked the whole floor 1481 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,200 Speaker 4: and after party was was the scene? 1482 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,479 Speaker 1: Y'all have a cross over the after parties then yeah. 1483 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, where everybody ended up before the ship really pop up, 1484 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 3: will end up having a conversation. 1485 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,720 Speaker 4: Right after the show and then and then uh you're ready, No, 1486 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,479 Speaker 4: the parties crack. I mean it was it was crazy. 1487 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 4: What was he like? Eve? Good people, real business minded person, 1488 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,680 Speaker 4: you know, street dude, but business minded. You know, I 1489 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,439 Speaker 4: can relate to people like him. 1490 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 3: You know, we could sit down and have a conversation 1491 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 3: because you know, whether you're on the West Coast out 1492 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,439 Speaker 3: of the East coast, you're you're you came from the 1493 01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 3: same life. Yeah, we were both hustlers. I mean we 1494 01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 3: came from that life where we had a lot of 1495 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,479 Speaker 3: people that followed us. You know that we looked out 1496 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 3: for that. We had to you know, do street ship, 1497 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:01,519 Speaker 3: you know. 1498 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 4: To survive. 1499 01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:07,080 Speaker 3: Uh, And I mean we were all all boss so 1500 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:12,880 Speaker 3: to be able to transition into being record men. Uh 1501 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,720 Speaker 3: in this game, which the game is the same. I 1502 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 3: tell people all the time, business has been the street 1503 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:23,439 Speaker 3: business is no different than this, this Hollywood business. There's 1504 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 3: no different than NBA ownership business. It's all business, you know, 1505 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 3: at the end of the fucking day, you know. And 1506 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 3: so we understood that, you know, and it. 1507 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,000 Speaker 4: Was the whole thing. 1508 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,920 Speaker 3: And they look there to try to steal our ship 1509 01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 3: because they're using the same game plan. 1510 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:45,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, young what was the young dra like? Who? Oh 1511 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 4: Drake Dre? Yeah, Dre was always reserved. 1512 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 3: I mostly vibe with with easy and uh and Q Yeah. Ren, 1513 01:17:56,880 --> 01:18:00,639 Speaker 3: Me and Wren we did a bunch of shows after 1514 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:01,640 Speaker 3: they kind of broke up. 1515 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah, Oh well, man, this ship has been crazy. 1516 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:06,720 Speaker 2: We could talk to you all day, but we know 1517 01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:08,759 Speaker 2: you got to get out of here so quick, hitters. 1518 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,000 Speaker 2: First thing to come to mind, let us know childhood crush. 1519 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:20,560 Speaker 4: Childhood crush, oh man, ship, childhood crush. It was this 1520 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 4: one girl. 1521 01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:30,040 Speaker 3: Uh, I ride my bike right to go to Coconut Grove, 1522 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:31,760 Speaker 3: which was damned there forty. 1523 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,760 Speaker 4: Five minutes away. Long ass bike ride. 1524 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 1525 01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,639 Speaker 4: Her name was Bethel, I ain't gonna say that full name. 1526 01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:42,599 Speaker 4: And me and I was dating. 1527 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 3: She ended up dating the football players. I ain't had 1528 01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 3: no fucking money. The goddamn dolphin motherfucker got the. 1529 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,639 Speaker 4: Man. Ain't too many Bethels. 1530 01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:03,000 Speaker 3: Yeah fine in the month for light skinn bad motherfucker. 1531 01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:06,920 Speaker 3: I just that was the love of my motherfucker. Football 1532 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,320 Speaker 3: player got him. Then I then I came up. 1533 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,280 Speaker 4: When I came up, I saw the next time I 1534 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,120 Speaker 4: saw her over with she was in the car with 1535 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 4: I guess she was in the car with. 1536 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:28,920 Speaker 3: White Houston husband Bobby Brown, Bobby Brown with with a 1537 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,320 Speaker 3: bunch of Pampers in the back of the she. 1538 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 4: Had a baby, Bobby and damped. And then I wasn't 1539 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,400 Speaker 4: looking good at the time, and it looked like that 1540 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:45,439 Speaker 4: and it just came. 1541 01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 3: From somewhere that was somewhere and I saw Hey, I said, hey, 1542 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:55,519 Speaker 3: now I got the big Bens and ship. I'm sitting 1543 01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:02,639 Speaker 3: there like, hey, what's up? That's shoot. I think that's 1544 01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:08,200 Speaker 3: why I got the ideal from the song I did 1545 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:09,320 Speaker 3: on Friday. 1546 01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:15,759 Speaker 4: What the Girl? Uh? What the girl? The girl on Friday? 1547 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:16,880 Speaker 3: Uh? 1548 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 4: The one that was boring everything? Or the hood? Yeah, 1549 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:28,160 Speaker 4: the one the hood ran. Yeah that's what I got. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy? 1550 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 4: Was that in l A. I'm saying, yeah, okay, because 1551 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 4: when you send me the clip of that movie and 1552 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 4: I want you to do a song and I'm like, 1553 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,559 Speaker 4: what the fuck is this? Ship? 1554 01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,880 Speaker 1: Should I actually, I don't know. It probably became an 1555 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:40,879 Speaker 1: l A saying after. 1556 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,720 Speaker 4: That, yeah, And I just did this. 1557 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 3: I said, I like this West Coast word went one 1558 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,160 Speaker 3: piece of advice. You will tell your younger self. 1559 01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,120 Speaker 4: Don't trust you. I don't trustee. 1560 01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 1: Oh I want to handshake and everything, but I want 1561 01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 1: the feminist getting on us. 1562 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,519 Speaker 4: Don't don't shape. 1563 01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,639 Speaker 3: Will you get your He had to do it? Hey, hey, 1564 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 3: you when they tell you they take a break with Jos, 1565 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:09,200 Speaker 3: they're not. 1566 01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 1: If you got a bag, top, I'm gonna put you 1567 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:14,759 Speaker 1: on the spot. 1568 01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:19,599 Speaker 2: Top five Miami Hurricanes on and off the field all time, 1569 01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:20,599 Speaker 2: Like do you enjoyed them? 1570 01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,760 Speaker 1: On and off the field? Like they was good dudes too? 1571 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:28,799 Speaker 3: Top five Jerome Brown talked me into buying that BMW 1572 01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:30,519 Speaker 3: you saw on the album Come. 1573 01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 4: And being him would ride up down the highway speeding 1574 01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,960 Speaker 4: in that motherfucker. Next thing is. 1575 01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:45,840 Speaker 3: When Sam Jencovic, who's after leg director, was gonna tell 1576 01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 3: them not to wear the bandemics in the game, and 1577 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,880 Speaker 3: the whole team came to my office to get bandmas 1578 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:52,719 Speaker 3: to go to the meeting. 1579 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,080 Speaker 4: So they all walked in the meeting like, bitch, you 1580 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,439 Speaker 4: goinna tell us not to wear this ship. You know, 1581 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,800 Speaker 4: I guess that's right up there. Uh. 1582 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,360 Speaker 3: The next thing is making sure how I was a 1583 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 3: mentor to Warren sapped them in the wrong way having 1584 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 3: them with me, him and Mark Caesar. Then I guess, 1585 01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 3: uh the number one going in the locker room and uh, 1586 01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:24,519 Speaker 3: going in the locker room and and saying, hey, look, 1587 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,240 Speaker 3: you gotta knock work done. 1588 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,880 Speaker 4: The fuck out, and they couldn't. It was tough. 1589 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,439 Speaker 3: Oh, he had a big body on his head. You 1590 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:38,479 Speaker 3: know that Fitzgerald was easy. They had him crying and. 1591 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,000 Speaker 4: Ship mouthed or bleed. They couldn't were done. 1592 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 3: I don't know what the fuck he was on. They 1593 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 3: were trying to hit him and knock him out. You 1594 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 3: knock him out of the game. 1595 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:53,200 Speaker 4: It was a I couldn't do it. No, No, they 1596 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,879 Speaker 4: gotta get a good lick on him because his footwork 1597 01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:00,160 Speaker 4: was unbelieva. Bro that something serious. Uh. 1598 01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:04,720 Speaker 3: And Charlie Ward really a good basketball. He played play 1599 01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,640 Speaker 3: ten years the solid South. He was a Southway, so 1600 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 3: he was solid. 1601 01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,960 Speaker 4: He probably was the first one to do like that basketball. 1602 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 3: And definitely before we get you out of here, Uh, 1603 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,160 Speaker 3: thoughts of what d has been able to do over Colorado? 1604 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,479 Speaker 4: Oh man, great, that's my brother. I mean Prime, me 1605 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,240 Speaker 4: and Prime go way back. Florida boy, Florida boy. 1606 01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:30,160 Speaker 3: I mean to the point where his dad used to 1607 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,599 Speaker 3: be on tour with either me or Hammel because you know, Dad, 1608 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 3: you know, we need to watch him. 1609 01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:41,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we go way fucking bad uh to see 1610 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 4: what he's doing. 1611 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I know the whole story of 1612 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 3: him trying to get the job at and UH and 1613 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,920 Speaker 3: uh Florida Stadius album and I'm turning him down, going 1614 01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,519 Speaker 3: to uh Ugansas trying to get the job. 1615 01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 4: Then every going there to help him get. 1616 01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,880 Speaker 3: The job, and the chicken man I ain't gonna call 1617 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,479 Speaker 3: no name, you know, got in between that and they 1618 01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:11,640 Speaker 3: eventually you know, he didn't get that job, and then 1619 01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,839 Speaker 3: say fuck it, I'm gonna go to Jackson State Historic 1620 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,960 Speaker 3: of Black College and for everybody like straight handing everybody and. 1621 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,840 Speaker 4: People like y'all to go support him and support that. 1622 01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,599 Speaker 3: It was great turn that program around, you know, brought 1623 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,080 Speaker 3: light to HBCUs. And then for him to then move 1624 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:33,160 Speaker 3: on to Colorado, taking in school that ain't won but 1625 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,680 Speaker 3: one fucking game, you know, turning that motherfucker around, and 1626 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,200 Speaker 3: now they don't won nine games this year. 1627 01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:44,599 Speaker 4: Two revenue was up five hundred exactly. That's crazy, that's 1628 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 4: my dog. And more so the guys on the staff. 1629 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,599 Speaker 3: He got high school guys from his hometown over there 1630 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:55,880 Speaker 3: that you don't see on the camera to bring Sapping in, 1631 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:58,600 Speaker 3: you know, and I know there was a little bit 1632 01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,800 Speaker 3: of pushback, you know, to be able to get this brother, 1633 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,920 Speaker 3: which is a genuine brother, which is my my brother, 1634 01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,559 Speaker 3: to bring him in, to be able to give him 1635 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:12,320 Speaker 3: an opportunity to revive his career, show him something and 1636 01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 3: get involved with and he's passionate about it. 1637 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:15,960 Speaker 4: You know that. 1638 01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,839 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's a beautiful thing with his kids, 1639 01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 3: you know, doing what he's doing with the kids and 1640 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 3: ship like that. 1641 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 4: Not in the Bowl. They're gonna play in the Bowl. 1642 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I hope they don't. 1643 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,880 Speaker 3: Play too long, you know, but you know, Travis taking 1644 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 3: the top player in off in in high school football. 1645 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's like a fucking movie. Beautiful. I mean, 1646 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:40,679 Speaker 4: it's a beautiful movie. 1647 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,040 Speaker 3: I hope it don't go to the NFL, you know, 1648 01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,719 Speaker 3: I hope you don't leave there because what he's built there. 1649 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 4: You know, I know, it's it's long you can go 1650 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:49,880 Speaker 4: chase the bag. 1651 01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:51,880 Speaker 3: But I'm thinking he's getting a bigger bag and he 1652 01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,760 Speaker 3: has more control media wise, like what you guys are. 1653 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 4: Doing versus going in some goddamn institution. 1654 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, we appreciate your time obviously what you've 1655 01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,559 Speaker 2: meant to a lot of people, but the industry as 1656 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 2: a whole. 1657 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Man, I'm glad that that you're starting to finally reap 1658 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,640 Speaker 1: the benefits of that, and you're still here to receive that. 1659 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 2: If there's anyway we can help you with when you 1660 01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,080 Speaker 2: shoot the movie, to any promotion or come interview everybody, 1661 01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 2: put it on our platform, or do that when you're 1662 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 2: running for governor. 1663 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm in the politics too, so let me know how 1664 01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:23,720 Speaker 1: we can help. 1665 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 4: So listen, Ben, I appreciate y'all. I appreciate what y'all do. 1666 01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been watching y'all show from the beginning, 1667 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,439 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because again, y'all, y'all real niggas, 1668 01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,040 Speaker 3: you feel me, and so we gravitate to that, you know, 1669 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,280 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a whole bunch of bullshit on TV 1670 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:45,120 Speaker 3: and on YouTube. You know, I just can't that can't entertain. 1671 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,880 Speaker 2: I love that you're talking more too, not to cut 1672 01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,160 Speaker 2: you off, because like we need to hear o G voices, 1673 01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, because they try to push 1674 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,679 Speaker 2: the ogs to the side and everything now, But the fact. 1675 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,400 Speaker 3: That I'm being more vocal I love that shit and 1676 01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,240 Speaker 3: me being the Southern guy, you know, just a honor 1677 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 3: to have you on the show, but to get to 1678 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:05,640 Speaker 3: know you more. I looked up to you and know 1679 01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 3: so much about it. It's just honored to have you 1680 01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,120 Speaker 3: on the show and you get a chance to meet you, bro. 1681 01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:09,599 Speaker 4: No doubt. 1682 01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:13,040 Speaker 3: Last time I saw this dude, he was walking by 1683 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,839 Speaker 3: the Big Pinky had like four five girls. 1684 01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:23,240 Speaker 4: You a big pink, big pink. I'm like, nig. 1685 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,439 Speaker 5: Yes, I remember that. I remember that, cray. I was 1686 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,400 Speaker 5: going I was this big pink, big pink. Hey, big 1687 01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,800 Speaker 5: pink restaurant. First of all, they got a menu bigger 1688 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:36,479 Speaker 5: than the United States exactly, and you can't go wrong. 1689 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 4: You know. They got big Pink as the spot. And 1690 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:39,880 Speaker 4: I was with for a woman at the time. I 1691 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:41,479 Speaker 4: was popping. I'll tell you I was doing that. You 1692 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:46,960 Speaker 4: know this man he's seen it, had traveling with me 1693 01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 4: for I was two years. Hey, I did that. 1694 01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,400 Speaker 6: We got we got some merch for you, sweat it out. 1695 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,800 Speaker 6: We got a book what you gotta do before we 1696 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,599 Speaker 6: go on. Let's let's get this that moment. 1697 01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:01,920 Speaker 1: This is O. 1698 01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 4: G Luke saying he remember seeing me in my pride 1699 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,800 Speaker 4: on South beach with for them things for the loop. 1700 01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,479 Speaker 4: Saw me so this over, I said, I like that guy. 1701 01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,719 Speaker 4: I want I'm official. Now I'm official. 1702 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,559 Speaker 1: So Kobe stamped you in up stamped. 1703 01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good, baby good. I don't tuk myself in 1704 01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,640 Speaker 4: he he just no, I ain'try, remember that. 1705 01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:27,560 Speaker 5: I don't know that. 1706 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 4: I say, hold on, sir, you know I had a 1707 01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 4: couple of the man running around it with four. 1708 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,800 Speaker 3: I said, boy, man, he always up jack. We used 1709 01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:38,760 Speaker 3: to do our thing, bro, No we did. I think 1710 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:44,000 Speaker 3: there's no question, no question about it, no question day man. 1711 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:44,880 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. 1712 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 3: Man. 1713 01:28:45,240 --> 01:29:04,599 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Mm hmmm open