1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Ronan. My understanding of the lightest batteries about a thousand pounds, 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: So you've got to think about the inertia. You know, 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: a thousand pound object traveling along and fifty miles an 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: hour coming to a sudden stop in a front end collision. 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: I'm a roll up ticketting with its damn ban must 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: get burned battery, it'll TSC the car Doctor. Go out 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: in front of your house, go out in the street, 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: draw a circle in the in the streets, then in 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: the middle of it, and say I'm ready to be more. 10 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: Just stand there and wait, because you know you can 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: stand there and pretend you're gonna get transported, but it's 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Welcome to the radio home of Ron 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: and Nanian the Car Doctor, since this is where car 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage doors 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your call 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: at eight five and now running well, we get to 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: do another hour together, you and I and I guess 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: we'll include Tom too, because we like Tom. Tom is 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: a great guy. Um, you know, Tom, I have to 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: tell you, I'm so impressed by my engineer. He Um, 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: do I need to pay you again for saying those 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: nice things? Well, you know it's it's the truth though, 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: because I'm never quite sure where you are. But um, 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, Tom calls me in the middle of the week, 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: true Tom race story. Right. Tom will call me in 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: the middle of the week and I'll have a car 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: question or something, or his daughter's cars gotta check engine 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: light on her or something, and you know, I'll explain 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: it to him just a a and then he always 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: tells me the story of where he is. Well, you know, 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: I was up at this transmitter and it it put 34 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: out twenty one point two giga watts and it didn't 35 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: down Chase and it didn't do this, and it didn't Yeah, okay, Tom, sure, 36 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: you know. Uh. It's it's sort of like if there 37 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: was a radio doctor, Tom would be it. And I'm 38 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: blessed to have Tom. And uh, you know that's the 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: whole point of that song. But I'm let's go on 40 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: record of saying that because is uh. I don't want 41 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: to make a habit of saying nice things about Tom. 42 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: He'll think that I like them, and uh, we know 43 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: where that'll get us. So but Tom's the best. Tom 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: is the best radio guy in the country. It's amazing though, 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: and all seriousness, all kidding around. So you know, I'll 46 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: tell somebody, you know, what do you do? And this 47 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: and that we talk about it and you know, well, 48 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: is it just you know? I have an engineer, Tom Ray. 49 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have Tom Ray. I get that 50 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: all I do, get that all the time. That's no life. 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: So it's um. Tom is sort of like the Mickey 52 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: Mantle of radio. Uh, you know what. I'm glad to 53 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: have him. But um in any event, I was gonna 54 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: tell you a story about a Volvo, but I think 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: instead let's open up the phone lines and see where 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: we go this hour. I got a good Volvo story 57 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: though I had a Volvo that was talking to me 58 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: this week. It kind of made it. But I don't 59 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: want to do that story. Now, let's go over and 60 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: talk to Ellis in northern California. Let's welcome to the 61 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help? Sir? Yes, sir, yes, sir, Well, 62 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: I got a radio problem. Okay, heysten On and all 63 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: shouted out here A couple of weeks ago, very radio quick. Yeah, 64 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean no noise, no sound, no whatever. The clock 65 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: still works. So I know I got power to the radio. 66 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: But then after all, I guess I was looking into 67 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: getting going to the repairs, you know repairs. I'm getting 68 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: the six one, And pretty soon he started working. So 69 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: on again, off again. It'll work if sometimes it doesn't. 70 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: If I push, sometimes it turns right on there he 71 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: has like as soon as I turn and keel. Other 72 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: times it will take a two minutes and then it'll 73 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: start working. Sometimes if I pushed the question, it will work, 74 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: and I left to clutch out it doesn't work, I 75 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: drive it around for a little while, push the clush 76 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: in analty and so one it works at all. The 77 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: person I ever started working all the time. And uh 78 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: so I don't know what's going on. Okay, I know 79 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: what's wrong with the cru elis. I know what's wrong 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: with you, truck. I really do, Honest to God, I've 81 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: seen this. This is not an uncommon thing. I haven't 82 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: seen one in a while because it's been a while 83 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: since we saw four rangers. But I know what's wrong. 84 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: You got a pencil and paper, all right, so I 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: want you to have your mechanic or you. I want 86 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: you to check fuse twenty one of the smart junction box. 87 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: The smart junction boxes, the fuse box located onto the dashboard. 88 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: All right, fuse. Fuse one is a five am fuse? 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: All right? Number one? Is the fuse any good? Number two? 90 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: Does it show signs of corrosion? Alright? Chances are it won't, 91 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: and chances are the fuse will be good. But I 92 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: always start with basics, right, you know me, It's always 93 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: tell me what's good? All right? That fuse should only 94 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: have power when the key is in the crank position. 95 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: You got that. So so so if if you turn 96 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: the key on and that fuse has power, that's why 97 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: the radio doesn't come on. Now you want me to 98 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: explain it, I can understand, all right. Yeah, So what 99 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: you probably have is a water leak up around the 100 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: smart junction box where the harness comes into the body 101 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: from the engine compartment. Do you have any water on 102 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: the floor? Do you get the any mildew smell in 103 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: the truck? No? I don't think so. Pretty good, pretty 104 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: humanity around here right now? Yes? And falling down anyway? Yeah, 105 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: they have they have issues with water leaks around the 106 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: smart junction box, all right, um or they have they 107 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: have issues with the smart junction box getting corroded and 108 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: creating this exact problem. All right, If that fuse shows voltage, 109 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: you want to find the source of the voltage, disconnect 110 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: the radio and isolate the circuits at the smart junction 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: box because they're might be a short in the box 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: or an internal short in the wiring harness. All right, 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: you want to take a look, well what happens. What 114 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: happens is when you push it, when you push it 115 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: on the clutch. When you push it on the clutch, 116 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: you're flexing the brace which the smart junction boxes attached 117 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: to or near and you actually you're wiggling the smart 118 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: junction box. You're wiggling the fuse box when you push 119 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: on the clutch. You could you said it's underneath today 120 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: so that on the side panel. Yes, you could probably 121 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: create the same scenario by you know, and I hate 122 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: to tell somebody to start beating on their car, but 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: you could probably create the same scenario gently tapping gently 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: g E N T L Y gently tapping the fuse box, 125 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: all right, and watch the radio come on and off. Okay, 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: So so now if I have power. What do I do? 127 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: If you have power that that fuses only if you 128 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: follow the go get a wiring diagram and look at 129 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: fuse twenty one. You're only supposed to have power to 130 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: that fuse during crank, all right, when you're starting the car, 131 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: all right, if you have power there, key on engine 132 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 1: not running, or keyon engine running if you have power 133 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: there all the time, or if you monitor that with 134 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: a voult meter. Al right, put a D D O 135 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: M in record mode and all of a sudden it 136 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: shows voltage, then it loses voltage, and it finds voltage 137 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: that tells me that there's a problem in the smart 138 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: junction box. All right. Now you've got to find connector 139 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: write this down. You've got to find connector eighty as 140 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: an apple alright, eight to two zero. I'm sorry, Charlie 141 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: to to eight zero Apple A, which is the main 142 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: junction box connector coming in for the smart junction box. 143 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: And there's a couple of wires and pins there that 144 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: will be corona. Just go through that connector and you 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: may find a short circuit or a cross circuit, or 146 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: you may have a problem at the smart junction box itself. 147 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: But that's the area you want to focus on. Okay, 148 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: so I gotta look for a crosian or or damn 149 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: this or right or right one right connect you which 150 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: is over there on that side. You can probably if 151 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: you take enough apart, you'll see the wiring harness coming 152 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: out of the smart junction box, the first gang connector 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: it comes to, I believes, but get a wiring diagram 154 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: to positively identify it. But your problem is going to 155 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: be there. It's just the act of the clutch pedal 156 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: is creating the flex that's creating the simulation that there's 157 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: a problem related to the clutch. It's not it's not 158 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: all right. I've seen this. I've seen this more than 159 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: a few times. Alright, sir, okay, Well i'll look into 160 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: that and you give us a call back us. You'll 161 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: be back to us, all right, sir, Okay, you're very welcome, 162 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: Alis you'll be well. Um, yeah, I don't know why. 163 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: It has to do with the way they they sealed 164 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: that area of the truck. It was prone to moisture, 165 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: and the smart junction box wasn't the best the way 166 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: it was manufactured. And I saw that a couple of times. Um, 167 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: so it's not I don't know why it's stuck in 168 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: my head like that, but I've seen that a couple 169 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: of times that it. I kind of remember the thing 170 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: was because it was so weird, because you're expecting to 171 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: see like Ellis was looking for. Is it related to 172 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: pushing in the clutch pedal? It is, but you're flexing 173 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: the brace that the boxes on and you just tweak 174 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: it enough and all of a sudden, the cars do 175 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: funny things. What can I tell you? Five zero running 176 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor at your service? Right after this? 177 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: Don't go away? Got the number, ride it on the wall, 178 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: So don't forget to call for car advice. Done right? 179 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero zero zero. Now back to 180 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: raw quick piece of email. Tom, let me just do 181 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: this real fist. This just came in. Hey Ron, I'm 182 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: listening to you today down here in Atlanta, Georgia. I've 183 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: got a twenty ten Chevy Colorado and I'm pulling my 184 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: hair out trying to find an accelerator pedal position sensor. 185 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: I know you always talk about quality parts. I'm looking 186 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: for something good. Well, can you tell me? I'm gonna 187 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: do it yourself, and I'm on a limited budget, but 188 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: I want to use better parts rather than cheap parts. 189 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm not like that, Jeff, Jeff, Go Google search n 190 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: g K, n t K, n t K specifically, the 191 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: folks are partners over at n g K n t 192 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: k UH. They've created the Shop Squad for technicians. But 193 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: they've also got a side, the nt K is their 194 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: parts side for sensors and um, um, what am I 195 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: trying to say? Sensors and uh, pedal position sensors and 196 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: things like that that you're looking for. And they've also 197 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: got a catalog online at their website where you can 198 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: actually put in your your make model a vehicle and 199 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: not just bring up the part number. One of the 200 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: nice things n t K and n g K do 201 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: is their parts catalog have pictures so you can actually 202 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: match it up and say, yeah, I've got a three 203 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: wire or five wire or four wire and so on. 204 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: So um, just a good reliable source and then you 205 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: can vet it from there and you can find what 206 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: you're looking for. But if you want an idea of 207 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: a part number, plus match it by application, it's a 208 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: good source of reference. Just go Google search. Um, you 209 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: know n g K, n t k UH spark plugs 210 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: and parts and you'll find it there, so and keep 211 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: looking for the shop squad. The shop squads excellent for 212 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: our shops out there technical resources and training and things 213 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: like that. So I hope that helps you, Jeff. If 214 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: you need more, give me a shout. Let's go over 215 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: to Alan Maryland. Welcome back, sir. How can I help 216 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: you today? Ron and Needing at your service? Hi, Ron, 217 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call, long time listener, and thanks 218 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: for your automotive education every week. You're welcome. Um ran 219 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: over and nail. So I got a puncture in a tire. 220 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: The puncture is in an awkward position. It's kind of 221 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: midway between the center of the tread and the side wall. So, um, 222 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I've got a patch kid and a lug kit, but 223 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I didn't trust it, so I ended up buying a 224 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: new tire. So to the cars running, that's fine. But 225 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: now I got the tire off the rim and it's 226 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: relatively new, It's still got eight thirty seconds to tread 227 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: on it, so I'd like to salvage it and at 228 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: least keep it as a spare because I got a 229 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: spare rim. And my question is I've shown it to 230 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: a couple of people and all of them told me, 231 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: if you try to patch it, the patches is gonna 232 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: run into the side wall, and as the sidewall flexes, 233 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: the patch might come loose. So, um, I've I've got 234 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: a patch it. It's an old one and it's got 235 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: a number of patches of various sizes, including one that's 236 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: only about an inch in diameter, and I sort of 237 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: think I might be able to put that small patch 238 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: over the puncture and it won't curve into the sidewall. 239 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: But I've also got a plug kit, so I'm kind 240 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: of interested in your view how I might salvage his tire, 241 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: at least to keep it as the spare, because it 242 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: does have a lot of tread on it. I always 243 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: worry about a tire being repaired correctly all because there's 244 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: no margin of every you know, that that that that 245 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: that ton and a half or two ton vehicle or 246 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: more going down the road at sixty miles. An awful 247 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: lot can happen awful quick from a bad tire repair 248 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: in the blink of a That's so I get it, 249 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: you know, and listen, I'll be the first guy to 250 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: tell you. Do we plug tires not nearly as often? 251 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: We do more patchwork that the conversation you're having with 252 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: these people is correct. They don't want patches to be 253 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: near the edge where they're gonna roll and possibly come apart. 254 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: Now about oh, it's got to be fifteen years ago now, 255 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: and everything in my mind is five years ago. But 256 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: I know I'm kidding myself. It's probably fifteen years ago. 257 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: The industry came out with a plug patch where it's 258 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: got a plug dead center in the middle of a patch. 259 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: So you take the tire apart from the inside, you 260 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: do all your prep work as if you were going 261 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: to patch it, but you pull, you pull the ug through. 262 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: You you push it in from the inside, pull it 263 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: through from the outside. Now you've got a plug and 264 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: a patch. They don't even want those near the edge 265 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: of the tire for fear that it's gonna roll, all right, 266 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: And and those are structurally a much better way of 267 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: repairing a tire. There if if if I believe it's 268 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: you know as a national tire institute that the name 269 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: of the website escapes me, but there's a national clearing 270 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: house on tire information. I forget how I found at 271 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: one time, And they actually have a poster on the website. 272 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: You know, if if it's a five rib tire, they 273 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: tell you can only repair between the three center, the 274 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: three center treads, the shoulder and that area where it 275 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: just starts to roll, kind of like the edge of 276 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: your roof. Yeah, that's we're boating. You can put a 277 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: plug there and probably get away with it a short term, 278 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: which if you were doing a spare, yeah, all right, 279 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: and you could do it that way, but to trust 280 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: it now. Now that being said, there's also a lot 281 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: of different plug out there, all right. Uh so I 282 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: think patches off the table. There's what we traditionally called 283 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: the brown rubber rope plug. It was kind of like 284 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: a gummy um. They've been around, God, I was putting 285 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: those entires when I was a kid. They've been around forever, right, 286 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: every everybody does UM. And then there's a company out there, 287 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: I believe it's it's not Excel, it's X. It'll come 288 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: to me, but they make a lot of tire products 289 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: and they sell a gray and black tire plug that 290 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's self valcanizing, self healing. It's amazing. Uh. 291 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: Danny went four wheeling into the woods one day with 292 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: his jeep and gash the sidewall, you know, four miles 293 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: four miles in wood, you know, no way to get home. 294 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: He had the air compressor, he had taken the tire 295 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: plug repair kit with him, and I saw the tire 296 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: he he ended and he paid for every one of them. 297 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: I want to tell you, but he ended up using 298 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: twelve tire plugs, stitch them together, glued the tire, let 299 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: it sit, let it bake in the sun for twenty minutes, 300 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: put air in the tire, drove home. Yeah, it just 301 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: it's it was amazing. Um. The tire company, yeah, I 302 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: want to say they begin it begins with an X. 303 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: I just can't recall the name. It's I know it's 304 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: the red and black can. It's sitting right next to 305 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: my toolbox. We use it all the time. Um. We 306 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: get our stuff from our local supplier, Frank Tech Tire 307 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: up here in North Jersey. Good stuff. Um, but they 308 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: have an excellent product. It will come to me, it'll 309 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: come to me. I'll try to jump onto the shop 310 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: during the break if you can stay tuned in, and 311 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: I'll mention it break. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that's the stuff. 312 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: It works really well. But that's how I would do 313 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: that and then just you know, plug it and then 314 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: put it in the spare and then in the trunk, 315 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: and then you have a spare that you know that works. 316 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: But you're you're you know it's it's tires are just 317 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: such an expensive option to deal with that, you know, 318 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: and you gotta you always I always think about contact 319 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: patch whenever I think about a tire. Everybody said, at 320 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: the tire looks so good. Yeah, but you know you've 321 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: only got a you know, an eight. Yeah. There's only 322 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: so many square inches contacting the road at any one time, 323 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: and they've got to be just so you know, dead 324 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: on the money. Um. I didn't want to, you know, um, 325 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: but you know I don't like those donuts, so I'd 326 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: like to at least keep Yeah, No, it makes perfect sense. 327 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: I'll know you're thinking, right, brother, and you you know 328 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the price you pay for that spare now, 329 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: is is gonna come back and pay dividends? Just in 330 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: peace of mind? And you know, my biggest fear whenever 331 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: I loan a car, you know, one of the kids 332 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: wants to take it, or somebody has to borrow a car. 333 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: You know, God forbid, something happens not not on my watch, brother, 334 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: and I know you're the same. That's right, that's absolutely right. 335 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: So I'll stay tuned. I'll get to that answer after afterwards. 336 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: I'll jump back out to the shop site during this 337 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: break and we'll give it to you. Then. I'm not 338 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: on any in the car, doctor, I'll be back right 339 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away. Now, look, take off that 340 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: white suit. Yeah you If I take it off, there's 341 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: nothing wrong underneath, and that could be even sip it on. 342 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: I'll leave on. I'll leave it white suit. Are you 343 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: ready to start? Now? Can I go? Baby? Now? Say now, now, now, good, good, 344 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to I can roll go away, 345 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: leave me alone. I'm busy, I'm working. Um uh you 346 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. You're the best in the business. 347 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: Otherwise you'd be gone. So at least we hang out 348 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: together all the time. Um for Alan Maryland, I looked 349 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: it up. It's actually I was thinking of a different company, 350 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: which begin with an excess the TPMs Sens Repair Company 351 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: with al you're looking for as a part number two 352 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: fifteen p k to fifteen Peter Kansas from tech Tire. 353 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: All right, so, my guy Tech, my guy Frank is 354 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: one of the tech Tire distributors um here in North Jersey. 355 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: But you just if you just Google search tech Tire, 356 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: it'll come up with their website and you could spend 357 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: days looking at all the products the tech Tire has. 358 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: It's really amazing the stuff they have. But their kid 359 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: to fifteen p K has the permcure plugs in it 360 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: that we use, the the vulcanizing material, uh, the insertion tool, 361 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: the ream or the whole kit, um, whatever it is, 362 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: it's worth its weight in gold. You should have one 363 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: in every car as far as I'm concerned, because those 364 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: tire plugs work really really well. Um. That and a 365 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: self inflator, of which there's various models out there. You 366 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: can get them from a variety of places. Milwaukee makes 367 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: a good one, I think, Uh, Makeea makes one. There's 368 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different vendors out there with self inflators. So, 369 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: but you know tech Tires what you're looking for, and 370 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: you can carry that with you wherever you go. Let's 371 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: get over to Mark in Vegas, O H C R V. Mark. 372 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: What's going on in Vegas today? Run on any and 373 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: at your service, sir, How can I help? Well? Hi, Ron. 374 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: Great to talk to you again. It's just a little 375 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: cloudy here today in Vegas, kind of chill, a no rain, 376 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: but we madn't get some of that California weather lately. Anyway, 377 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: I've got this O eight c r V and I've 378 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: always taken I've had it since new always taken great 379 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: care of it and and and really good care of 380 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: it since I've been listening to you for about ten 381 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: years on a radio. Um So I changed the oil 382 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: on a regular base. Anyway, I'm very sensitive to noises 383 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: on my vehicle, and for about the last six months, 384 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: I've been getting this this noise. It sounds like it's 385 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: coming from the rear underneath the vehicle. I only get it. Yes, 386 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a hollow metal metals. No, no, no, 387 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: it's sort of a oh gosh. I know it's hard 388 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: to diagnose noises over the phone, but it only happens 389 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: when I start the car cold in the morning, and 390 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: when I drive it for maybe a minute, that's when 391 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: I hear the noise. Then it goes away the rest 392 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: of the day. Really so, but when I when I yeah, 393 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: it's weird and it's and it sounds worse. If I 394 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: have people in the vehicle, so there's more weight in 395 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: the rear um and it's sort of a hollow metal 396 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: rattling sound, So you know, isn't a suspect is it? 397 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: Is it? Well? But is it a is it a 398 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: is it a droning? Is it? Is it? Is it 399 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: going to happen at speed up on the highway or 400 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: is it a rattle? Is it? It's more of a 401 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: hollow metal sounding rattle. But it goes away after about 402 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: a minute, So I'm kind of suspecting something with the 403 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: suspension in the back or the shocks or you know. 404 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: The car's got two nine thousand miles and it just started. 405 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: It just started doing this about six months ago. And 406 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: for the life of me, I can't think because it 407 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: goes away so quick. Well, let's do let's do it. 408 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't have any problem. Let's let's do this, all right. 409 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: Do you have a relationship with your mechanic. Could you 410 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: give it to your mechanic the night before, Let him 411 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: set it up on a lift, put it up in 412 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: the air and listen when it's cold, first thing in 413 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: the morning, and at least you know, tell me what's good. 414 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: As long as both we and I realized it's it's 415 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: likely not this. But you know, to listen to both 416 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: rear wheelbearings with a mechanic stethoscope while it's up in 417 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: the air. Okay, the noise isn't there. There's no noise, 418 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: you know. Could this be a rear differential noise? Have 419 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: you ever changed the fluid in the rear dif? Yes? Okay, 420 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: have done it a couple of times? Yeah, you should 421 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: have by now you should have done it more than 422 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: a couple honnicles for it every every third or so. Uh, 423 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, but could this be a noise in the 424 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: rear in the rear diff If we can prove it's 425 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: not a noise in DIF or bearing that, my next 426 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: question is does it increase in sound or intensity the 427 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: faster you go? Uh? You know that? See I usually 428 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: just pull away and in my neighborhood, I'm driving fairly slow, 429 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: so by the time I get up to speed anywhere, 430 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: it goes away, right, you know. But if it's there, 431 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: so let's say your neighborhoods right, if you got it 432 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: up there, if you got it up to thirty five 433 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: or forty, does it get louder as you accelerate? Does 434 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: it increase with road speed? Well that I don't know, 435 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: because I always started in my garage and I pull out, 436 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: I got nowhere to go fast quick. You know you 437 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: didn't put you didn't put new tires on it six 438 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: months ago, did you? No? No? No. And the fact 439 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: that it gets louder with people in the car, so 440 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: I guess with a little bit of weight, and it's 441 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: a hall metal sound that and it goes away so quick. 442 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: And if I had somebody put it up on the rack, 443 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if that you mean and check it 444 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: when the when the rear wheels are spinning. Yeah. In 445 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: other words, let somebody drive it on the rack. Let's 446 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: do let's do thirty miles with it cold. Do we 447 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: hear any noise out of the bearing? All right? Or? Or? 448 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 1: Or or do we have do we have the beginning 449 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: of you know, I believe there's is there a center 450 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: bearing on an O eight um? You know? Do we 451 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: have drive shift noise? Do we have a hu joint coming? Do? 452 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: And it's and that would make sense associated with your 453 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: You put people in the car and the noise gets louder. Yeah, 454 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: do you hear make kind of a hollow metal sound? 455 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: Right do you hear do you hear the noise with 456 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: people in the car longer, like it's more of a strain. Yes, yes, 457 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: the noise would last a little longer and it seems 458 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: a little more pronounced, right, so you know you're straining something. 459 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: If that were a loose shock or a shock, we 460 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: used to call it drumming, where the shock would make noise, 461 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, usually it would it would get less with 462 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: weight because you've compressed it and put it in a 463 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: different position than when it's normally writing it. Not that 464 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: it couldn't be, but not as common I would be. 465 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: I would be focusing more on drive shaft. Um, I'm 466 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: assuming this is an all wheel drive, this has a 467 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: real differential. Yeah, yeah, I would be focusing more on 468 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: drive shaft, you joints, dif itself, wheel bearings, and then 469 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: work my way, you know, out from there. If we 470 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: can eliminate a few things that will cut down the 471 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: field quite a bit with the wheel bearings, with that 472 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: noise go away at when it gets hotter. Not likely, 473 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: but I don't want to. I don't want to play well, 474 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be this and it shouldn't be that, you know, 475 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: because that's dangerous. That's why I say tell me what's good, 476 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's bad. If you can listen, go ahead, 477 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, No, you go ahead. Well, at 478 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: first I started thinking about is it something that when 479 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: it gets hotter, it goes like it wouldn't be catalytic 480 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: converter or muffler, any kind of thing like that. Sure 481 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: it could be you know what, you know what, Mark, 482 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: And don't take this the wrong way because I love you. 483 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: You're here with me ten years. Don't go into analysis paralysis, 484 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: all right, don't go into don't go into wood. It 485 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: could have should make a list. My dad told me 486 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: that years ago. Right, you know it's it's make a list. 487 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: And I do this in the shop. Brother. You know, 488 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: if if you ever came to the shop, you'd see 489 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: I've got peg boards of tools hanging on the walls, 490 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: and people like do you use all those? Some? We use, 491 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: some we don't. Why are they still up there? Because 492 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: I can look at that board and go did I 493 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: do this? Did I do this? Did I do this? 494 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: Did I do this? It's it's a visual stimulator for me, 495 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: and I will do it on every job. Not every job, 496 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: but the jobs, you know, you have to sit and 497 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: think about a little bit. Don't go into analysis paralysis. 498 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: Make a list of what you think it could be, 499 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: and then start to think of how could you test 500 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: that individual component. First thing that comes to mind from 501 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: me with you is can we check rear wheel bearings 502 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 1: and differential? Sure? Ken? All right? If it's their cold, 503 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: um and that eliminates that, and then we'll move on 504 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: to the next thing. So all right, you do that, 505 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: you call me back, brother, you let me know what happens, 506 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: so and we'll kind of go from there. Enjoy the day. 507 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm running. Any of the Car Doctor, We're back right 508 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back run any of the Car Doctor. Here, 509 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: let's go over to Let's go to Mike in Michigan 510 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: six Chevy Silverado. Mike, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 511 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yes, sir, Um, I currently have 512 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: aftermarket rims on it that are lux centric. They're the 513 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: same size as the fact three rims, and I'd just 514 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: like to know do aftermarket rims do they perform just 515 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: as well as the factory rims? I think so it 516 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: depends on you know, what do we perform in terms 517 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: of what what do you what do you are you 518 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: chasing a problem here, Mike? Are you concerned about longevity durability? Uh? 519 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Will come in apart? What do you all that? All 520 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: of that because I've heard that, um now, I've read 521 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: where the luxe centering rims are no different from hub Centric. 522 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: But there are these places that re manufacture or they 523 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: recondition factory rims that say that aftermarket rims aren't as 524 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: durable or and they don't match the factory spects as 525 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: the original. I think it depends on the company, all right, 526 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, And I don't want to just say, you know, 527 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: if if the rooms from China, it's no good. There's 528 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff we get from China that is good. 529 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff. And listen, the manufacturers build 530 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 1: in China, but they build to their spec all right, 531 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: if you get what I'm saying. I can't tell you 532 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: how many times I opened up a set of Ford 533 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: brake pads made in China, you know. But it's Ford 534 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: Motor Company. It's right from Ford. It's it's just they're 535 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: built to a different standard. So I think the concern 536 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: has to come back to, you know, what was originally 537 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: on the truck. Hub Centric or luck centric And then 538 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, how good is the company that made whatever 539 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: the replacement wheel is. You know, just because it's oe 540 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: original equipment doesn't mean it's better. All right. I've had 541 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: more than a few trucks, my oh eight and let 542 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: me think my nineteen, my nineteen Silverado five thousand miles 543 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: plow truck, right, and I didn't plow a lot with it. 544 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: I plowed the shop. I plowed the house. You know, 545 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: the the the occasional standard persons trying to take out 546 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: their driveway. I felt sorry for you know, the damns 547 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: want distress, that kind of thing. You gotta rescue everybody. Um, 548 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: the truck was two and a half years old. The 549 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: rims are starting to rust on the inside lip, you know, 550 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: so and those are just steel, gray painted rims. You know. 551 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: It's like I I thought to myself, Jesus, I would 552 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: have hoped they would have held up better than that. 553 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: But you know it's so, you know, factory doesn't mean great. Um. 554 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: You know there's a standard there though. So you know, 555 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: would I buy something on Amazon and expect it to 556 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: work as well? It depends on the company. I don't 557 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: know if I'd buy rims on Amazon because I want 558 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: somebody to go back and talk to. And that's the 559 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: key I think when it comes when I'm buying an 560 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: aftermarket part, whether it's whether it's a set of wheels 561 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: or a mass airflow sensor or a set of breaks, 562 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: I want somebody to go talk to because when there's 563 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: a problem, I know somebody's got to have my back. 564 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just my way of thinking. You know, 565 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: everybody's you know, there's a there's a million places to 566 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: get hamburgers in America. You know, some people think fast foods. 567 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: It's some people want to go to the diner. Some 568 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: people go to the steakhouse. I just you know, that's 569 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: the way it is. Um, you know, it's it's it's 570 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: also got to be that. Are the wheels rated for 571 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: the weight of the vehicle? You know, Um, I can't 572 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: say it any other way. Fifty plus years of doing cars, 573 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: I've learned that there's just no substitution when it comes 574 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: to cost. If it's cheaper, if it looks too good 575 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: to be true, it probably is. So I'm very cautious, Uh, 576 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to be the guinea pig 577 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: and be the first guy to find out that that's 578 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: the wheel that's gonna fold. Uh. You know. So as 579 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: far as the companies that are reconditioning wheels, do you 580 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: have a body shop that you talked to it's not 581 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: a body shop, it's a it's placed in No, no nobody. 582 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: Do you have a Do you have a body shop 583 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: that you know? Somebody that you know that you count 584 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: down and ask him who reconditions his wheels? Body shop 585 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: guys are interesting, you know they when it comes to 586 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: something like this, because the body shop guys, you know, 587 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: they'll put out I mean, think about the number of 588 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: cars that get into an accident. Think about the price 589 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: of wheels on some of these highline cars today. They're 590 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: not they're not replacing them with now, they're sending them 591 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: out for reconditioning. And they'll know what companies work, and 592 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: they'll know what companies don't work because they've had the 593 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: most exposure to it. It's either that or you're gonna 594 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: do your homework in the forums and see who's talking 595 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: about what and whose company's got the best record, and 596 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, and and the company that's up in Troy, 597 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: have you have you talked to them? Have you seen 598 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: their work? Do you read their reviews. Do you get 599 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: a warm fuzzy from them? Or you're scratching your head, 600 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: which I'm guessing your r because you're here right now. 601 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: You just read their their website and that's about it, right, 602 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: And you know anybody can write a website, right, you 603 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: know it's so listen, if you listen to my website, 604 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,479 Speaker 1: it says I'm a genius, doesn't mean anything. Um. You know, 605 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: I got everybody fooled so far. Um. But you know 606 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: it's it's just be cautious. I'm not saying they're worse. 607 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: And then again, you know, there's a lot of companies 608 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: out there wheel manufacturers, they have to market parts manufacturers, 609 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: not so many as there was before, but they were 610 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: they were trend setters, they were trailblazers. Uh. You know 611 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: when I went to get wheels for the hot rod 612 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: for my fifty five Chevy, I went right to Hallebrand. 613 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: How this is before Hallebrand got brought by Holly Um. 614 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: And I actually spoke to I can't think they were 615 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: I think they were in St. Louis and I actually 616 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: spoke to the head of the company. So um. But anyway, 617 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: do that go talk to who you gotta talk to 618 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: do your homework and you'll be fine. I appreciate the call, Mike. 619 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor. We'll be back 620 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, running in the car doctor. 621 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: You know we're talking about parts of sour. We're talking 622 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: about after market party. There is a parts issue, and 623 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: you've got to be really picky. Listen, you can't get 624 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: some parts for production cars. We had to. Here's the 625 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: Volvo story. We had an O eight Volvo in the 626 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: shop this week that made this high pitched shrill sound 627 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: after about twenty minutes of driving and it was just 628 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: all the time, like it would drive you out of 629 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: the car. Customer brought it in, we got it to 630 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: make the noise, and we're looking at it and I 631 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: don't know what possessed me. And I said, you know, 632 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: i've heard this sound before, and it kind of reminded 633 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: me of when I was at summer camp and I 634 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: put that blade of grasp between my tooth thumbs and I, 635 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, tried to make a whistle like all the 636 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,479 Speaker 1: other kids all the way. Made a lot of spit 637 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: at first, but I finally got out the whistle, but 638 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: it kind of made that high pitch sound. I tried 639 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: to take the oil fill cap off. I said, it 640 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: just sounds like like a stuck PCV valve. Although this 641 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: doesn't have a PCV, it has an oil trap. I 642 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: couldn't get the oil fill cap off. I actually had 643 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: to take a pair of players with the engine running, 644 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: take the oil fill cap off and pop it off. 645 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: And you heard as the suction released because it had 646 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: such internal vacuum. It was just so much going on. 647 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: And it turns out the oil trap and the valve 648 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: cover or the PCV the cranks vent system is bad. 649 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: Talked to Volvo Parts on back order, can find one. 650 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: Thank god for Dormant. Dormant Auto Parts, right, Dorman had 651 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: a valve cover in stock oil trap complete. Put it 652 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: on cars fixed down the road. We need companies like Dormant. 653 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: Thank god they're one of our partners. We appreciate them 654 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: and thanks for their innovation because they're helping to keep 655 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: America rolling and al and forward into the future. Until 656 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: the next time I'm rounding any in the car doctor 657 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see 658 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: it