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Speaker 3: And welcome back Real America's Voice audience. We are here

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Speaker 3: in Tampa, Florida at the Student Action Summit hosted by

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Speaker 3: Turning Point in USA. It has been an incredible weekend

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Speaker 4: If there's one left, you'd be lucky. I don't even

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Speaker 3: So we are going to take you guys back to

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, apologized.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talsks to our interview from Byron Donald's

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Speaker 6: Student Action Summit. What is going on? You guys having

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Speaker 6: a good time in Tampa, Florida. Everybody made sure they

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Speaker 6: You know, it's been a big six months, big six months.

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump has taken Washington by storm. The Republicans on

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Speaker 6: Capitol Hill, we actually passed one big beautiful bill. The

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Speaker 6: the brightest and the Democrats have lost it. They've lost

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Speaker 6: guy named mom Donnie. I mean, you can booth the

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Speaker 6: the people of New York City. So, as a guy

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Speaker 6: to be the next governor of Florida, I have a

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Speaker 6: When you come to this line and the speech, some

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Speaker 6: We tell some of my former compatriots from the state

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Speaker 8: Don't vote for the same stupid people. These are the

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Speaker 6: These are the people who thought it was okay to

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Speaker 8: These are the people, and this is.

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Speaker 6: One of their bright ideas that actually didn't get adopted.

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Speaker 6: These are the people who thought it was okay for

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Speaker 8: This stuff is sick and it's nuts.

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Speaker 6: We want common sense, we want freedom, we want liberty,

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Speaker 6: but it ain't coming to Florida.

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Speaker 8: Can't tell you all the story.

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Speaker 6: So last year in the presidential campaign trail, I was

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Speaker 6: Honestly, it was a surreal time because you know. I'm

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Speaker 6: We have the best university system in the entire country.

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump. It's like a New York thing, you know,

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Speaker 6: America great again. And one of my colleagues, you know her,

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Speaker 8: Ready to go. My team would say, all right, sir,

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Speaker 6: You're gonna debate about this stuff, and it would change,

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Speaker 8: For your schedule just to change. It might be better

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Speaker 6: Just find something else to do. You see, we live

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Speaker 8: It is your voice.

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Speaker 6: And the way we expand that voice is that we

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Speaker 8: Just a little bit of time.

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Speaker 6: That's what so many of you in this crowd and

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Speaker 6: And look, I get it as somebody who's knocked doors.

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Speaker 8: Been there.

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Speaker 6: I know the hard work all of you have done,

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Speaker 6: and that is how you extend that branch. That's how

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Speaker 6: you reach the people of our country. It's door to door,

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Speaker 6: call the call person a person. We will find candidates

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Speaker 6: But if that candidate doesn't have you, well that's a

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Speaker 6: That tree doesn't make a sound. And so I will

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Speaker 8: I get it, man, we're riding high. Listen.

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Speaker 6: Donald Trump is on a win streak. We've never seen

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Speaker 6: To you young people at the Student Action Summit, let

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Speaker 6: You're talking to a guy who fifteen years ago nobody

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Speaker 8: It's like twenty percent. I mean, that's bad.

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Speaker 8: Four was a lot. Do you know how hard we worked?

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Speaker 7: For far too long.

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Speaker 6: In this campaign for governor, I'm talking about the future

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Speaker 8: Just get to tell you the truth. You're a Texas person.

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Speaker 6: We've gotten here because of consistent leadership over decades. Governor

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you the truth.

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Speaker 6: There is no movement, there is no party that can

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Speaker 8: Don't mind the sweat, don't mind the rain.

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Speaker 6: God bless you Turn the Point. I love you, guys,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to because Voice coverage of the Student Actions

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Speaker 5: Let's go listen to him.

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Speaker 9: I love it too.

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Speaker 10: Look, we're learning so at least the truth is finally

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Speaker 11: What a shock, I don't know.

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Speaker 10: Also the health movement, we're learning stuff thanks to Robert Kennedy.

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Speaker 10: We're learning things, things that that have been hidden from

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Speaker 11: Neither is coca cola. But the good news is, if

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Speaker 10: Fat, be fat in America. Of Americans are obese obese

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Speaker 10: But if you're going to be fat, be fat in

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Speaker 12: Anyway, Also, Americans, we are four point two percent of

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Speaker 10: Excuse me, we are all turning into Elvis's Elvis Presley

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Speaker 10: Now, I remember I was thirteen years old in nineteen

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Speaker 8: I'm like, this could be in.

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Speaker 10: All right, honey, tell the kids I love them.

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Speaker 10: We are lucky that we turned the corner here. I

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Speaker 11: Get this guy out of here.

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Speaker 10: He's spitting all over me. And it's the same thing

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Speaker 10: The plan was to divide us again by race, create

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Speaker 10: What we are experiencing is not a revolution, but a

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Speaker 10: to turn the United States into a forever blue California

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Speaker 10: style crap hole, with every major city flooded with homeless encampments,

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Speaker 10: drug addicts, and illegal migro.

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Speaker 11: And from every corner of the world.

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Speaker 10: The question was, and still is, will President Trump and

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Speaker 10: this movement be just a minor setback, a speed bump

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Speaker 10: to the eventual global tyranny of social credit systems, where

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Speaker 10: every transaction made by citizens will be tracked and approved

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Speaker 10: or unapproved by banks and by government that tracks everything.

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Speaker 11: That each and every one of us say and do.

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Speaker 10: Could the United States and this greatest experiment in freedom

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Speaker 10: the world has ever known, be just this two hundred

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Speaker 10: and fifty year blip in human history enjoyed by the

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Speaker 10: very few and fortunate in world history, before the human

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Speaker 10: race return to feudalism. Thankfully, God has other plans, and

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Speaker 10: as long as we are a nation under God, we

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Speaker 10: will always be free. Our unparalleled freedom is why the

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Speaker 10: United States is the creative, technological, and financial engine of

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Speaker 10: the world. Well, my fellow Americans, how do we continue

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Speaker 10: to move this counter revolution forward? Luckily, the Democratic Party

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Speaker 10: has provided a map for us, and if we just

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Speaker 10: do the exact opposite of what the Democrats did, we

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Speaker 10: will be free for another thousand years. One of the

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Speaker 10: phrases that the left loves to use is the right

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Speaker 11: It's a kind of incantation that can.

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Speaker 10: Magically make any horrible idea sound progressive.

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Speaker 11: So while they're destroying women's rights.

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Speaker 10: They can say it's a good thing because we're on

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Speaker 10: the right side of history. As Democratic leaders call for

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Speaker 10: violence against politicians and federal agents, they'll remind you it's

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Speaker 10: because they're on the right side of history. All that

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Speaker 10: stuff about wanting to sterilize children, don't worry.

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Speaker 11: They're on the right side of history.

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Speaker 10: You know who else thought they were on the right

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Speaker 10: side of history. Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Malse Dung Polepot,

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Speaker 10: Benito Mussolini, Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin, Robert Bugabi, Augusto Pinoche,

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Speaker 10: Nikola Uceescu, Bashal alosad Vlad the.

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Speaker 11: Impaler, and Lex Luthor.

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Speaker 10: There's no such thing as being on the right side

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Speaker 10: of history, because we don't know what the future holds.

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Speaker 10: But those who are convinced of their own infallibility will

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Speaker 10: always make this claim. It gives them the kind of

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Speaker 10: a kind of get out clause, and it often justifies

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Speaker 10: the worst possible behavior. Now that we the Conservatives, are

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Speaker 10: in power, we need to think carefully about about how

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Speaker 10: not to fall into the same trap.

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Speaker 11: It's too tempting to assume that we.

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Speaker 10: Have all the answers, that we know what the future

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Speaker 10: will look like.

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Speaker 11: But we don't. So what's the solution.

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Speaker 10: Humility, listening to others, being willing to have the debate,

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Speaker 10: not like the Democrats shouting down people on campus, not

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Speaker 10: just imposing our own values like the woke left have done.

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Speaker 10: And the best way to ensure that this will happen

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Speaker 10: is the preservation of our free speech. Free speech is

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Speaker 10: the bedrock of our civilization, and for good reason, because

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Speaker 10: it means that even the most unpopular opinions get an airing,

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Speaker 10: even the most eccentric and implausible ideas get heard. And

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Speaker 10: the left forgot about that free speech, that even though

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Speaker 10: we voted for President Trump, we get the challenge and

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Speaker 10: test ideas coming out of our own side.

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Speaker 7: We seem to assume.

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Speaker 10: That just because the left has been wrong about so much,

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Speaker 10: that the right must be right about everything.

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Speaker 11: It doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 10: We've all encountered those leftists with Trump derangement syndrome, those

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Speaker 10: who think anything Trump does must be wrong.

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Speaker 11: But certainly, if someone is claiming that Trump's decisions are never.

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Speaker 10: Wrong and must be carried out exactly, isn't that just another.

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Speaker 11: Form of Trump derangement syndrome.

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Speaker 10: So in that spirit of humility and free speech, I

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Speaker 10: ask these questions.

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Speaker 11: Release all the Epstein.

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Speaker 10: Files, no matter the consequences. This is America. We'll deal

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Speaker 10: with whatever happens. Now, we have to also ask ourselves

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Speaker 10: something else. Why are we so obsessed with Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 10: while three hundred thousand children have been traffic in America

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Speaker 10: and are still missing.

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Speaker 7: Why?

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Speaker 10: Another question, why is America still sending arms to Ukraine?

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Speaker 11: I have and will always support Israel. Israel is different because.

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Speaker 10: If Hamas Hezbolah and Iran had the capability on October seventh,

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Speaker 10: twenty twenty three to on October seventh, if they had

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Speaker 10: that capability of just continuing the attack and murdering every man,

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Speaker 10: woman and child, they would have done that. Israel is

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Speaker 10: a free country, and Israel is a country that we

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Speaker 10: must always stand by. But but until they become the

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Speaker 10: fifty first or a territory, their lobbying must apply as

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Speaker 10: foreign lobbyists.

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Speaker 7: That's not anti semitic.

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Speaker 10: You can support Israel completely and unabashedly, but also want

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Speaker 10: APEX to apply as a foreign lobbying group. While I

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Speaker 10: want to put Americans first. If we want to continue

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Speaker 10: to have fruits and vegetables in this country, we better

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Speaker 10: find a way to give Mexican workers some avenue to

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Speaker 10: legally do that work. Because you and I ain't.

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Speaker 14: Gonna do it.

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Speaker 7: Boo that you want.

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Speaker 10: But if you want fruit and vegetables, you better figure

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Speaker 10: it out.

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Speaker 11: And these are the people that are doing it. So

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Speaker 11: while you disagree with that, I disagree with that with.

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Speaker 8: You on that.

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Speaker 10: America was built on the freedom to question our government,

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Speaker 10: and we must ensure that we don't let that principle slide.

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Speaker 10: Dissent to disagree, and you're right to speak out, to protest,

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Speaker 10: to challenge authority without fear of censorship or government reprisals

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Speaker 10: is essential to our liberty. We need to hear what

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Speaker 10: Thomas Massey has to say. Always boo all you want.

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Speaker 10: That's the beauty of this country, isn't it.

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Speaker 8: I support it.

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Speaker 10: I support your boo, but let's debate it, and let's

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Speaker 10: talk about it, and let's hear what Thomas Massey always.

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Speaker 7: Has to say.

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Speaker 10: Free speech, the open marketplace of ideas. This is what

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Speaker 10: made our country great.

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Speaker 14: The fact that you could boo.

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Speaker 10: Something I say and that I could disagree with you

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Speaker 10: is going to always lead America to a better place.

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Speaker 11: Than silencing each other.

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Speaker 10: Because to not air our grievances, to not air our

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Speaker 10: grievances is what the left has been trying to do

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Speaker 10: and will continue to do. The Left has been flirting

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Speaker 10: with socialism and communism, which will always promise utopia but

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Speaker 10: always delivered tyranny, famine, and mass murder.

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Speaker 8: But we should know better.

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Speaker 10: There is no such place as utopia. The word utopia

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Speaker 10: quite literally comes from the Greek meaning no place.

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Speaker 11: That's why you're not going to find it.

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Speaker 10: The left thought that if they could impose all their

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Speaker 10: values on the rest of us, they could achieve paradise.

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Speaker 10: They lost the art of disagreement. They started calling everyone

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Speaker 10: fascists for taking an alternative view. They wanted to censor

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Speaker 10: the Internet to carve out exceptions in the First Amendment

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Speaker 10: by calling it hate speech. When Galileo was held under

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Speaker 10: house arrest.

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Speaker 14: That was hate speech too.

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Speaker 10: He was a minority voice saying all the elites had

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Speaker 10: got it wrong, and he turned out to be right.

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Speaker 10: A coherent society is all about messy negotiations.

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Speaker 11: It's about that disagreement.

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Speaker 14: It's about debate.

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Speaker 10: It's about annoying each other by challenging each other's certainties.

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Speaker 10: Democracy without disagreement isn't democracy at all. So let's not

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Speaker 10: make those same mistakes again. America, for all its imperfections,

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Speaker 10: is still the greatest hope for freedom the world has

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Speaker 10: ever known. But we we must be vigilant. There will

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Speaker 10: be no marines from some other country to land on

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Speaker 10: our beaches to save our ass. No other country will

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Speaker 10: offer us a Marshall plan. We you and I and

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Speaker 10: all of us we are it.

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Speaker 11: America.

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Speaker 10: America is God's blueprint for humanity to live in prosperity

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Speaker 10: and liberty, because America recognizes the dignity of the individual

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Speaker 10: and that he is made in God's image and has

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Speaker 10: inalienable rights. So let's agree that it's okay to disagree

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Speaker 10: that no opinions, no ideas, no challenges should be off

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Speaker 10: the table in a free society. If we tolerate the

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Speaker 10: silencing of anyone, no matter how terrible we find their ideas,

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Speaker 10: we are establishing that one day it will be us

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Speaker 10: who will be the ones silence. As Thomas Paine said,

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Speaker 10: he that would make his own liberty secure must reguard

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Speaker 10: even his enemy from oppression. For if he violates this duty,

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Speaker 10: he establishes a president that will reach to himself.

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Speaker 11: So I say all these things.

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Speaker 10: As the beginning, as we continue.

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Speaker 11: This debate, as.

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Speaker 10: We continue on college campuses, to go back to discussing,

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Speaker 10: to disagreeing, defining the best idea, to this wonderful, messy country,

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Speaker 10: to this wonderful freedom that we have. And I will

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Speaker 10: always take a messy freedom over a very tidy tyranny. God,

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Speaker 10: bless all of you.

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Speaker 3: to the stage. Savannah Krizzly has taken the podium.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to her.

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Speaker 15: That to me is not cool.

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Speaker 2: And for us young people, we can be a voice

670
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 2: for those that may not know any better. We can

671
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 2: show up and be authentically ourselves. A friend of mine

672
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: just shared a stat with me and he said that

673
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Speaker 2: seventy four percent of gen Z don't trust their churches.

674
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Speaker 15: They don't trust their church leaders.

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00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: Only eleven percent of gen Z are actually showing up

676
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Speaker 2: to church regularly. That to me tells us that we're

677
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: doing something wrong. We have to bring God back into church,

678
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: back into schools, back into families, back into marriages. That

679
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: is what's cool, because I can guarantee you one thing.

680
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: I want my kids to look at me and say,

681
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: I'm so proud that that's my mom. And They're not

682
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Speaker 2: going to find me on only fans.

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Speaker 15: I can tell you that.

684
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: And for me my story for those that don't know.

685
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,959
Speaker 2: Both my parents were sentenced to a combined nineteen years

686
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 2: in federal prison. I sat in a courtroom and watched

687
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: the prosecutors in Fulton County, Georgia to ask for life in.

688
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 15: Prison for my father.

689
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: And when you're sitting there and when the government alleged

690
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars worth of fraud, as I said, allegas

691
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: because that was not accurate, you asked for life, And

692
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: that to me tells us where we're at as a nation.

693
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 2: You saw what the president went through. I lived what

694
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: my family went through, and I fought I didn't have

695
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: a single political connection. Two and a half years ago,

696
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: I had never even been to Washington, d C. And

697
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: when my parents went to prison, I refused to accept it.

698
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: That wasn't going to be the life that I was

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Speaker 2: going to accept, not only for me, but for my

700
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Speaker 2: brother and sister. I was going to get mom and

701
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: dad home, no matter what I had to do. And

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Speaker 2: I showed up in DC. I showed up in DC,

703
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: and I would look at the calendar, whether there was

704
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: a White House correspondence dinner or a big politic cool

705
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: event happening. I may not have had tickets to it,

706
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: but I can tell you I know what hotel they

707
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: all stayed at. I know what bars they frequented it to.

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Speaker 15: And I showed up at those times.

709
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: Because if you can be in the hotel bar and

710
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: meet the right person at the right time, don't be

711
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: afraid to ask for help. And I put all pride aside.

712
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: If I saw a politician that could help, I went

713
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: up to them and said, hey, I need you.

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Speaker 16: And this is why I was not afraid to use

715
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 16: my voice.

716
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Speaker 2: And especially to all of the women in the room,

717
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 2: we're told be quiet, don't be as loud. You have

718
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: to be feminine, you have to whatever people want to say,

719
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: but be loud. Your voice matters. Stand up for the

720
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: people that feel like they've been left behind, because I

721
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 2: can tell you that's exactly what I did, And.

722
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 15: In a room full of men and being.

723
00:46:53,760 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: Told to shut up, I just got louder. And because

724
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: of everything that my family went through, I wouldn't trade it.

725
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Speaker 17: For the world.

726
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Speaker 2: But there is a oh gosh, I don't even know

727
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: why I'm saying this, but I'm going to. I had

728
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: a meeting at the White House a few weeks ago

729
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: about me potentially taking over a house seat in Tennessee

730
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: that's coming available, and what a.

731
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 15: Journey that would be.

732
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: I have gone through the process to see what that

733
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: would look like for me and my family, and I

734
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: know right now I can implement more change in atmospheres

735
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: like this, on college campuses, with youth, with young voters,

736
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: because in twenty twenty eight, this is our time to

737
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: stabilize ourselves and actually show up to vote. Show up

738
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: to vote, tell your friends to vote, go help them register,

739
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: educate yourselves, and educate yourselves on what you're voting for.

740
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Speaker 15: Because, just like Riley.

741
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: Gaines, we don't want men and women's sports. We don't

742
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: want to make abortion cool again. I'm sorry, but I'm

743
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: pro life and there's.

744
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Speaker 15: No apologies about it.

745
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Speaker 2: So when it comes to running for public office right.

746
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 15: Now, I don't know if I really want the House seat.

747
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: I think maybe there's a Senate seat that could come

748
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 2: in my future in the next three years, and I'm

749
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: gonna go for the big dog. And as a woman,

750
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: that makes me feel so good because there is powerful

751
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 2: women that need to be in a position to make

752
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: change and to not be afraid to show up in

753
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: a room full of men and.

754
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 15: Have your voice heard.

755
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: And my little sister's looking up to me. I want

756
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: to show her that women have a seat at the

757
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: table and you don't always have to fight for her.

758
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: And since I'm clearly a fight, both my parents came

759
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 2: home and it was the greatest day of my entire life.

760
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: They came home May twenty eighth, and we are now

761
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Speaker 2: in July.

762
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Speaker 15: I've had my feel it's a lot of family time.

763
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 15: I'm grateful for it.

764
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: But my joke with my dad is that I think

765
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: there's a return policy. So before I implement that return policy,

766
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have my dad out and we're gonna.

767
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Speaker 16: Answer a few questions.

768
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Speaker 18: Come on, old man, come on, so.

769
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Speaker 5: And I love you back.

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Speaker 15: Honestly, guys, he looks great, doesn't he.

771
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 9: I will say, I say, it's the glow for those.

772
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: That don't know, that's Bureau of Prisons. But when I

773
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: picked my dad up, I facetimed Mardo and she was

774
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: with the President and the President looks at him and goes,

775
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: you look good, and we died laughing.

776
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Speaker 15: So, Dad, what how does it feel?

777
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Speaker 2: First off, this is the biggest crowd that you've been

778
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Speaker 2: in since.

779
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 9: Being home, Yes, since being home. Yes, And it's a lot,

780
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 9: it's a lot, but it kind of feels like home.

781
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 9: It feels like home.

782
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: When you had to report for prison, what was that

783
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: feeling for you, knowing that you had just gotten twelve

784
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: years in federal prison for something that you.

785
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 15: Did not do.

786
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 9: You know, as we've talked to in our as our family,

787
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Speaker 9: God had taken that fear away from me before.

788
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 5: I ever laughed.

789
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 9: And although I was angry with God at that moment,

790
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 9: it was angry. While I was there for that first

791
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 9: several weeks. I now realized that God's mission for me

792
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 9: was far greater than anything I could imagine, and when

793
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 9: he placed me in the belly of the beast, it

794
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,959
Speaker 9: was so that I could see what was really going

795
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 9: on in our country, because what you see out here,

796
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 9: this is our country. But you forget about those hundred

797
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 9: and fifty eight one hundred and fifty nine thousand men

798
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 9: and women who are incarcerated and out of sight, out

799
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 9: of mind. And I made a commitment that I would

800
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 9: never forget about those hundred and fifty eight thousand men

801
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 9: and women. And so when I left, as grateful as

802
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 9: I was to get that phone call that I had

803
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 9: been pardoned, there was a sadness of leaving these men behind,

804
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 9: of knowing that they didn't have your voice. And I

805
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 9: made a commitment between me and God and my brothers

806
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 9: that are there, that I will now become your voice.

807
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 9: So my mission today is more clearly than it's ever been.

808
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 2: Well's I say, I wouldn't trade it for the world,

809
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: because if it wasn't for all of this. I mean,

810
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 2: I sat in a room with Tom Homan and he

811
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: looked at me. Inside Savannah, you would be infuriated if

812
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: you saw the criteria for these ice detention facilities and

813
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: where your parents are at? And I said, what are

814
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: you talking about? He goes, Oh, where your parents are

815
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: at is far worse than these ice detention facilities.

816
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 9: Well, you know, I can tell you that in speaking

817
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 9: with my brothers there, that when you look at how

818
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 9: much money was being paid for the illegal immigrants to

819
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 9: come in our country and what they were being given every.

820
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 15: Day, legal aliens, I'll crack you.

821
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 9: Aliens immigrants, Uh, regardless they were. It was like over

822
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 9: three hundred and fifty dollars a day in New York City.

823
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 9: But yet it cost one hundred and twenty two dollars

824
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 9: a day to incarcerate an American citizen in prison. And

825
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 9: to me, that made no sense. No, you're giving medical

826
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 9: care to people that are not citizens, but yet you're

827
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 9: denying it to those that are.

828
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 2: Exactly And I think too what we're doing now with

829
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: the Bureau of Prisons with Director Billy Marshall and Deputy

830
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: Director Josh Smith. I the first meeting I had with

831
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: him was three hours long, and that tells me that

832
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 2: the President did something right. Yes, So president has put

833
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: people in a position of power that want to hear

834
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 2: where the corruption is occurring and how do we fix it,

835
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,959
Speaker 2: And we're working hand in hand with both of them.

836
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: I don't think you could have better men in charge.

837
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 9: You know, when you know how I feel about the

838
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 9: Bureau of Prisons because I feel like that it's the

839
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 9: most abusive agency that we have in our country.

840
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: It's only form of slavery that we have left in

841
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 2: the United States, exactly.

842
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 9: And my faith was restored in speaking with the new director,

843
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 9: Billy Marshall, and with Josh Smith, the deputy director, and

844
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 9: I truly see change. Change is coming. But when you're

845
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 9: inside that prison, your hope is President Donald Trump because

846
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 9: of the FSA Act, the First Step Act. And so

847
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 9: you're sitting there calculating your days knowing that this man

848
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 9: in twenty eighteen implemented the First Step Act. But then

849
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 9: you realize after sitting there that during the Biden administration

850
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 9: they did nothing with the First Step Act, nothing nothing,

851
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 9: that was just a jab at President Trump. But now

852
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 9: these men and women stand have the opportunity to shorten

853
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 9: their sentences about up to forty five percent under President Trump.

854
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 9: So I thank god. First I think President Trump, and

855
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 9: then I think my daughter.

856
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 2: So I do have a tough question that I want

857
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: you to be one hundred and ten percent honest.

858
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 9: Yes, I've had botox.

859
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: We know that I was right when he got out

860
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: when obviously we have grown up in the world of

861
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 2: television of Hollywood for the past twelve years and twelve fifteen.

862
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 15: God, you lose count.

863
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 2: But in that world we were told no politics, you

864
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: keep quiet about it, no religion. And when I came

865
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: out politically, I know.

866
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 15: There were some people in the family.

867
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 2: That was like, she's be quiet, She's to be quiet,

868
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: and it worried a lot of people.

869
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 15: It scared a lot of people.

870
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts and feelings and was there a

871
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: part of you that was scared because of how we

872
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: all as a society have been conditioned.

873
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 9: Well, no, because you if you'll remember back in season

874
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 9: one of our show, we were asked to take out

875
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 9: the prayer sing about praying before we eat, and I said,

876
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 9: if we can't worship our God on this show, then

877
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 9: we don't need to be doing a show with you.

878
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 9: So you having a voice, you was raised to be

879
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 9: heard and I've always told you there's no room you

880
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 9: can't walk into. But I know that I was conditioning

881
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 9: you to be the savior of mine in your mother's life.

882
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 2: So as being a Christian conservative older man.

883
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 16: What is some advice that right?

884
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, he's always told us. We lost track

885
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 2: of his birthday's grind.

886
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Speaker 9: I've caught up with my children's age at this point.

887
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, what advice would you give to this group of

888
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 2: young conservative adults that are struggling now in a world

889
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: of technology and social media, are not feeling like their voice.

890
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 15: Is being heard.

891
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 9: I would say to you to stop listening to the noise,

892
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 9: because you are a child of God. You are made

893
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 9: perfectly as you are, and we as a country should

894
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 9: wrap our arms around each other. We should not ostracize people.

895
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 9: I believe that our country, that we are a melting pot,

896
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 9: and we want people to feel safe in our country

897
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 9: and to come here, but to come here legally. I

898
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 9: would say that you're a child of God, so you're

899
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 9: loved all the time. And I watch young kids every

900
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 9: day struggle with the comments that are made about them

901
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 9: on social media or someone said this about them in school.

902
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 9: Their opinion only matters to you if you allow it

903
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 9: to matter. And you know, we are more than just

904
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 9: someone else's opinion. And at the end of the day,

905
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 9: I choose not to fight what people say about me

906
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 9: because I'm gonna let God do that because he saw

907
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Speaker 9: it too.

908
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 15: I love that.

909
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: Well, why don't we open up to the audience for

910
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: some questions. Perfect someone's walking around with.

911
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 16: A mic, up, we'll just go to the people with

912
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 16: the mics.

913
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Speaker 19: As as Christians, what do you think about like the

914
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 19: separation of Christian and politics, like how much should you

915
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 19: get involved in your church and stuff?

916
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 9: I think personally that you as a young man, should

917
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 9: always be involved and should have a political view, and

918
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 9: that it should be guided by your faith.

919
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

920
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: I think for me, when you live the Word of God,

921
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: that dictates every decision that you make in your life.

922
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: And when it comes to politics, you can't sit and

923
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 2: say you're pro life, or you can't sit and say

924
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: you're not pro life while being a Christian. And I

925
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: also say to people there is I know too that

926
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Speaker 2: what I'm about to say is a very very conflictings.

927
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Speaker 15: Half the people in this room won't agree.

928
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Speaker 2: Half may But even when it comes to gay marriage,

929
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: I say, I know what the Bible says about it.

930
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: But I also know that the Bible says I had

931
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Speaker 2: your life mapped out for you before you were ever

932
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 2: even conceived. And at the end of the day, we

933
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: were called to love people and love people well. And

934
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Speaker 2: I think that's what life is about. Show up love people,

935
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Speaker 2: love people well, and you're set.

936
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Speaker 7: Good morning.

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00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 20: My name is Don Sovelo and I'm from Kirk County,

938
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Speaker 20: where the catastrophic Guadalupe River flood happened. What are your

939
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 20: thoughts on what happened back in Kirk County and what

940
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 20: are your thoughts on the people politicizing what happened and

941
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 20: saying that we deserve this.

942
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 9: You know, again, I try not to listen to the

943
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 9: noise because if you're listening to the noise, you're not helping.

944
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Speaker 9: So my heart breaks for you and your community and

945
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 9: for every child that was lost, every individual that was

946
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 9: fighting to save a child. My heart breaks for you.

947
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 11: Because I have children.

948
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 9: I believe we should be less worried about politics and

949
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 9: a time of need like this, and we should band together.

950
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: This right now is not a left or right issue.

951
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 2: This is a humanity issue and lives were lost. So

952
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: when it comes to politicizing disasters like this, I absolutely

953
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: find it disgusting and that's not what matters.

954
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 9: Hi.

955
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Speaker 15: Thank you guys. This is mostly for Todd. I know

956
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 15: you were in the prison, so some I.

957
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 7: Was.

958
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 21: I don't want to say a victim because that's a

959
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 21: terrible mentality, but I was looked into by the FBI

960
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 21: because of my political views, but as somebody who is

961
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 21: a conservative but wanted to go in law enforcement, to

962
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 21: leave that out of the picture, to fully focus on

963
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 21: a career. How do you think we can go about

964
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Speaker 21: that and continue our career even though having this over

965
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 21: our head with the FBI looking into our personal lives

966
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 21: because somebody didn't agree with our personal opinions.

967
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 9: Well, I think that that was the Biden administration and

968
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 9: the administrations before or been. I do believe that. I

969
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 9: do believe that with Cash Betel at the head of

970
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 9: at the head of that agency, now you're going to

971
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 9: see a lot of change. But we cannot through adversity, Wilt.

972
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 9: That is our time to stand up. And I can

973
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 9: tell you during the Bureau of Me being in prison,

974
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 9: there were so many men that were mistreated that didn't

975
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 9: have a voice, and I stood up against that at

976
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 9: every turn. I mean, there's people in here tonight whose

977
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 9: families are here who still have incarcerated loved ones in Hannah.

978
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 9: If you're out there, I hear you. But at the

979
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 9: end of the day, I think that you have to

980
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 9: stand up against what you know is wrong, and we

981
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 9: have to applaud when when it's wrong.

982
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: And also, do not you follow your dream if it

983
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who is looking into you, whether it's FBI,

984
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: who DOJ, whoever. You allow that to be your fuel

985
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: to fight hard.

986
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 9: Amen.

987
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 2: Because for me, if I would have allowed the irs, DOJ,

988
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: Fulton County, all these people they tried to scare me,

989
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: I could have just laid back, laid down and just

990
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 2: let them run all over me.

991
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 15: I didn't. I fought back.

992
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: And because I fought back in the midst of it,

993
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: it was hard. There were times I wanted to give up,

994
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 2: but I knew I had to do the right thing

995
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: in the end. So don't allow anyone to take your dream.

996
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 9: For me, and you know, to go back to you.

997
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 9: When we came home, my wife said to me, she said,

998
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 9: are you going to leave this alone? And I said no,

999
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 9: And I said I'm going to I said, I'm going

1000
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 9: to make sure that it's exposed what has happened to us.

1001
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 9: And so after going through what we went through, it

1002
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 9: would be easy to sit back and say, Okay, I'm

1003
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 9: not going to say anything else. That's not what God

1004
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 9: wants you to do. God tells you to speak out,

1005
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 9: so you speak out and stand up for yourself.

1006
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 7: I'm so grateful to ask that question because I'm very

1007
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 7: similar question.

1008
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 10: How do you help people not be hypocrites and actually

1009
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 10: stand up and be courageous and actually be Christians they

1010
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 10: say they feel they are.

1011
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 9: You know, I think, and I've said this for years

1012
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 9: to my children, that we as Christians are sometimes our

1013
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 9: own worst enemy. That we want to kind of be

1014
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 9: quiet when there's an uncomfortable situation. I have never believed

1015
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 9: in being quiet, which everyone in this room knows. I

1016
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 9: believe that we should stand up for what is right,

1017
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 9: and I think at times we've all been hypocrites. You know,

1018
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 9: we don't want to get involved in certain things. Well,

1019
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 9: you know that's an uncomfortable situation. I can tell you

1020
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 9: for twenty eight months I was uncomfortable, But at no

1021
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 9: time did I not stand up and speak out and

1022
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 9: say this is injustice, this is inhumane. People should not

1023
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 9: be treated this way, and you can't talk to him

1024
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 9: that way. So I'm saying to you, if someone in

1025
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 9: my circle thinks I'm being hypocritical, I want to be

1026
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 9: called out for that because I want to be the

1027
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 9: voice of God.

1028
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: But I also think too, the biggest misconception about Christianity

1029
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 2: is that it's perfection, that you're supposed to show up

1030
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: and look perfect and act perfect and say the perfect things.

1031
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 15: Christianity is messy. You're gonna be.

1032
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: Angry at God, you're gonna doubt God, You're gonna go

1033
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: through these ebbs and flows. And the reason so many

1034
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 2: young adults are veering away from the church is because

1035
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: we've been taught it's perfection.

1036
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 15: It's not.

1037
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: It is messy, and it is the most beautiful mess

1038
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 2: you could ever live because at the end there's redemption.

1039
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 9: And you know, I'll add to that. I think when

1040
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 9: you say that so many young people are leaving the church,

1041
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 9: I think it's because it's not that they're wanting to

1042
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 9: leave the church. They're leaving the message that's being delivered.

1043
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 9: The church should always adhere to what is biblical, what

1044
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 9: the scripture says, and you go to church to find

1045
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 9: out the truth, not a show, not a whitewashed, sugar

1046
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 9: coated version that makes everyone feel comfortable.

1047
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 8: Hi.

1048
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 22: Hi, my name is John Carlinos. Tu said, I'm a

1049
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 22: put a conservative activist.

1050
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 14: From Puerto Rico.

1051
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 22: My question is for Savannah. Savannah, Yes, you just talked

1052
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 22: about supporting gay marriage and empowering women and standing up

1053
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 22: to men, and we know the attacks of feminism to

1054
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 22: traditional families. Do you consider yourself a feminist?

1055
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: I do not.

1056
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: I do not. I do not consider myself a feminist.

1057
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 2: I believe that that what is so powerful about being

1058
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 2: feminine is having a voice and knowing when to it

1059
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 2: and then knowing when to be soft. So no, I

1060
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: don't believe that I'm a feminist. But I also do

1061
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: believe that as women we have a seat at the table.

1062
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: We deserve just as much pay as a man.

1063
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 16: Yets we deserve that equality.

1064
01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 15: But I also do believe I grew up with Southern values.

1065
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 2: I want to take my kids to school, I want

1066
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: to cook dinner for my family.

1067
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 18: I want to provide.

1068
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: So I truly do believe the feminine energy is strong

1069
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,959
Speaker 2: while also being soft at the same time.

1070
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 9: I'm proud of you.

1071
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 14: This will be the last question.

1072
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:38,560
Speaker 10: Hi.

1073
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 15: So, my name is Jayce Swearingen. I'm from up North Ulei, Florida.

1074
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 18: I grew up.

1075
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 23: Watching your show, So shout out to my mom.

1076
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 15: She loves the guys.

1077
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 23: So my questions for Todd, I was wondering, how did

1078
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 23: you keep your faith, especially being in prison, and you know,

1079
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 23: was it a tough journey to you know, be able

1080
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 23: to wake up and pray but be surrounded by you know,

1081
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 23: gray walls and like house.

1082
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 15: How was that situation?

1083
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 9: I will tell you that my faith grew much stronger.

1084
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 9: My faith when God, when you're stripped away of everything

1085
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 9: and all you have is God, that's when he's right

1086
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 9: in your face. And I will tell you, with all

1087
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 9: of the men that was there that I worshiped with,

1088
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 9: that I still communicate with, it was a My faith

1089
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 9: today is stronger than it has ever been. And I

1090
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 9: don't know that it would have happened had I not

1091
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 9: been there.

1092
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: I think one of my favorite things that you say

1093
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: is prison is the greatest equalizer.

1094
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 9: It is because you know, when you're in prison, it

1095
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 9: doesn't matter that you have a mansion waiting on you,

1096
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 9: or you have cars and money and whatever, because not

1097
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 9: everyone has that. But in prison, you have three hundred

1098
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 9: and sixty dollars a month that you can spend. You

1099
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 9: wear the same clothes, you have the same routine. And

1100
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 9: I will tell you the brotherhood that I that was

1101
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 9: created with me, there is something that will carry me

1102
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 9: for the rest of my life. So God was good

1103
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 9: to me.

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 2: Thank you guys, well, thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 15: And we'll end it on a lighter note.

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Speaker 2: What was your favorite food in prison that they concocted

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Speaker 2: and made?

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Speaker 9: Casadilla?

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Speaker 15: And how did they make it?

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Speaker 9: We made it with an iron like you iron your clothes.

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Speaker 2: So welcome to prison, guys, but thank you so.

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Speaker 24: Much, God, bless thank you.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back Casa prison case. I'm getting hungry, but.

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Speaker 5: I don't know about a prison casey.

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Speaker 1: I got an iron, you got an iron. Let's that's right.

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Speaker 5: I don't mean any of us on this stage. I've

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Speaker 5: been to prison.

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Speaker 4: I've been to jail, Okay, yeah, for with Laura Lumer.

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Speaker 4: Actually for the governor's man in California. Did they feed

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Speaker 4: you for the sanctuaries? No, they didn't, okay, so.

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Speaker 5: You couldn't rate your favorite person there about four.

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Speaker 15: Hours in this okay, so they're not giving you a case.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the most epic mug shot ever I

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Speaker 4: had my Trumps, your president biggest.

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Speaker 5: Do we have that mug shot?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have.

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Speaker 4: It, Okay, posted on social labor, but it was beautiful.

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Speaker 4: It was one of the bet we did the sanctuary

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Speaker 4: State Fair. As they're letting illegals into our country. We're like,

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Speaker 4: wait a second, where's our sanctuary. Shouldn't we be able

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Speaker 4: to jump the wall at the Governor's mansion? Apparently not.

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Speaker 3: The ben berkwall mug shot the second most iconic one

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Speaker 3: behind Donald J.

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Speaker 5: Trumps.

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Speaker 1: Of course, really, I've posted him side by side.

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Speaker 5: They are epic.

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Speaker 3: That is that is amazing and wrapping up an epic

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Speaker 3: weekend here Tampa, Flor to the student Action Summitt, host

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Speaker 3: of My Turning Point USA. Again, we were not lying.

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Speaker 3: We had your coverage from the first speaker all the

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Speaker 3: way to the last, and you know, it has been

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Speaker 3: an incredible weekend and I think there's been a lot

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Speaker 3: of highlights, a lot of incredible moments, and we're kind

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Speaker 3: of wrapping up our coverage here. I think we might

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Speaker 3: have one speaker left, but let's go around the horn

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Speaker 3: here and talk about for the viewers who were tuning

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Speaker 3: in at the end, a little highlight, a wrap up

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Speaker 3: of what this soul entailed and what you thought the

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Speaker 3: main takeaways, what.

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Speaker 5: The main themes were on the mind of.

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Speaker 3: The people, because there seemed to be a couple of

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Speaker 3: different themes that kept getting brought up here over the weekend,

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Speaker 3: and it's a good way for the politicians in charge

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Speaker 3: to say, listen, this is what we need to care about,

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Speaker 3: because this is what's on the mind of the base

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Speaker 3: and the voters.

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Speaker 25: BO what you think, well, number one, I think, you know,

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Speaker 25: celebrating some of Trump's victories in his first several months

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Speaker 25: in office, I think that's a big thing. Obviously, with

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Speaker 25: Tom Homan being here, I think the border victories, you

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Speaker 25: have to celebrate those as well. But the controversial topics

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Speaker 25: Epstein came up time and time and time again, and

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Speaker 25: it seems that there's some out there that want to

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Speaker 25: just quash this and say there's nothing here.

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Speaker 5: But I think there is something here.

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Speaker 25: And it's very clear to me that the young student

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Speaker 25: actually do want that red meat. They want to know,

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Speaker 25: they want transparency, and they want trust. Those are the themes

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Speaker 25: that I saw for the weekend.

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Speaker 26: Michelle, Yeah, double down on that. Epstein a massive topic.

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Speaker 26: We said, we were actually told not to discuss this

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Speaker 26: with some of our interviews, and as Mike Crispy put

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Speaker 26: it so bluntly with his New York charm, we said, no,

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Speaker 26: you're you're not coming on.

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Speaker 3: We're not an on if you're going to give us

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Speaker 3: a three condition absolute question.

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Speaker 26: Yeah right, no way, exactly, because we want transparency just

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Speaker 26: as much as everyone here does as well, so as

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Speaker 26: much as we love the big beautiful bill, and there's

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Speaker 26: some massive accomplishments that happen with that. It is getting

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Speaker 26: overshadowed by this Epstein situation. It's ultimately because people are

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Speaker 26: demanding transparency. Nonetheless, though, I was really inspired by a

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Speaker 26: lot of the younger kids that I saw here today

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Speaker 26: making a difference, wanting a change.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 26: This is going to be the future, and the midterms

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Speaker 26: are going to be here before we know it. I

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Speaker 26: know we're still all maybe a little exhausted by this

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Speaker 26: past election year, but it's coming, and we saw a

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Speaker 26: preview of what can happen if we let things get

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Speaker 26: out of control again. Look what going on in New

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Speaker 26: York City right now. It is so important to get

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Speaker 26: people engaged and ensure we are getting ready for the midterm.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of which, speaking of engaged, a man who

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Speaker 3: is engaged outside with the looney left protesters makes it enough.

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Speaker 3: We'll call it the spiciest hour of the content that

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Speaker 3: we brought you. Ben Berkwam outside with the protesters, you know,

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Speaker 3: putting up with that smell, okay of leftist protesters who

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Speaker 3: haven't bathed in weeks, and they get paid fifty bucks

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Speaker 3: to come out in the hot Tampa the sun.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have to hold that hold that thought is

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk's on stage, all right.

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Speaker 1: I will finish that thought when we get back.

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Speaker 27: I think we just need to just remember how far

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Speaker 27: our nation has come in the span of one year,

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Speaker 27: of how much has changed, and thanks to the goodness

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Speaker 27: and glory of God that Donald Trump turned his head

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Speaker 27: at that very moment. I'll never forget where I was

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Speaker 27: with my daughter. All of a sudden I saw in

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Speaker 27: the We're in some workout area and a son on

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Speaker 27: screen Donald Trump shot. You all remember where you were

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Speaker 27: when you first heard the news, and then what a

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Speaker 27: sigh of relief when we saw him rise up and

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Speaker 27: he said fight, fight, fight. One year ago to this day.

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Speaker 27: But the reason I wanted to start with this is

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Speaker 27: that we also lost one of our own patriots that day,

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Speaker 27: Corey Competori, and we should just do a moment of

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Speaker 27: silence for ten seconds to remember Corey Compeatory that lost

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Speaker 27: his life a year ago.

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Speaker 13: Today.

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Speaker 27: Thank you, and I know that so many of you

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Speaker 27: have been to MAGA rallies. He died a hero's death.

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Speaker 27: He put his body in the way and saved his

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Speaker 27: daughter's lives that they may live for the men out there.

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Speaker 27: That is the best of MAGA masculinity. And Corey, we

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Speaker 27: remember you today here in Tampa, Florida. Our last bit

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Speaker 27: of programming here is going to be a debate. As

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Speaker 27: many of you guys know, I speak a lot about

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Speaker 27: this on college campuses. I get so many questions about

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Speaker 27: this topic on college campuses. Some of my best memories

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Speaker 27: ever I've been going to Israel, traveling to Israel, seeing

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Speaker 27: where Jesus rose from the Dad Jesus walked on water,

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Speaker 27: spoke in the gardenment, guest Enemy gave the sermon Mount Beatitudes, Abraham,

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Speaker 27: Isaac and Jacob and Hebron and some of my greatest

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Speaker 27: experiences have been in the Holy Land and defending Israel.

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Speaker 27: But as you know, this is a very hot topic

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Speaker 27: on campus and increasingly a hot topic in conservative circles.

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Speaker 13: And I thought, hey, let's.

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Speaker 27: Lean in to that disagreement. Let's lean into that debate.

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Speaker 27: Let's have two people that don't agree on this topic.

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Speaker 27: That are some of the best defenders of the position

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Speaker 27: when it comes to Israel, when it comes to the

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Speaker 27: Twelve Day War, when it comes to whether or not

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Speaker 27: we should be supporting or sending aid to Israel. Because

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Speaker 27: we as conservatives, we want to have this debate. We

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Speaker 27: don't want to just all of a sudden say oh,

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Speaker 27: you're not allowed to say that. No, we want to

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Speaker 27: foster an environment where we get.

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Speaker 8: To the truth.

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Speaker 27: We want to find the best ideas and have the

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Speaker 27: best the ideas win.

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Speaker 13: And so we are.

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Speaker 27: Thrilled to have two men and they know what they're

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Speaker 27: talking about. I'm gonna be moderating this. We're gonna make

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Speaker 27: sure that this remains mostly peaceful. So give it up

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Speaker 27: for Josh Hammer and Dave Smith, everybody. So, Josh and Dave,

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Speaker 27: welcome to Turning Point us A welcome to Tampa, and

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Speaker 27: give it up for both these men.

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Speaker 5: Again.

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Speaker 27: It's so we have a clock here we can blow

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Speaker 27: through that if this is going well and respectful and spirited.

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Speaker 27: I first wanted to start by introducing both these men,

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Speaker 27: Josh Hammer, Newsweek, Josh Hammer's Show. Josh is a very

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Speaker 27: passionate and eloquent defender of Israel and also is a

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Speaker 27: great friend and someone that we talk about a lot

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Speaker 27: of other issues as well. So Josh, welcome, great to

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Speaker 27: have you, great to be a true Also Dave Smith.

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Speaker 27: Dave is comedian a lot of fans if you are

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Speaker 27: here in the audience, Dave and also a libertarian, and

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Speaker 27: we're not going to talk much about that, but we're

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Speaker 27: talking about how much we agreed backstage on certain things,

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Speaker 27: and Dave means a lot that you made work here.

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Speaker 27: You took an awful flight to get here from halfway

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Speaker 27: across the country, and so Dave, you could plug your

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Speaker 27: stuff as well, because I don't know the name of

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Speaker 27: your show and stuff.

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Speaker 13: But I want to start with this.

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Speaker 27: I want to start with opening statements, if you will.

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Speaker 27: There are three big things that I want to cover,

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Speaker 27: and we just did a focus group with some of

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Speaker 27: our students here earlier. The three big things want to cover.

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Speaker 27: We want to cover the twelve day war between Israel

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Speaker 27: and Iran. What do we think of that?

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Speaker 7: Good? Bad?

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Speaker 27: How did Trump handle it? Number two, we want to

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Speaker 27: talk about the appeared the fake or the amount of

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Speaker 27: Israeli influence in American politics from APAC to how congressmen

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Speaker 27: are involved and kind of have our discussion debate, and

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Speaker 27: then finally it's one thing to be against stuff everybody

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Speaker 27: you can always you know, I.

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Speaker 13: Don't like this. I don't like that.

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Speaker 27: I want both of these men to present what they

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Speaker 27: Their solution is their proposition of how what they are proposing.

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Speaker 27: So with that though, Dave, I thought it would be helpful.

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Speaker 27: This is your first turning point event some people aren't

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Speaker 27: familiar with your work. Introduce yourself, make an introductory statement,

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Speaker 27: and the floor is yours, my friend.

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Speaker 17: Well, thank you very much, and thank you guys for

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Speaker 17: having me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: As as as Charlie mentioned, I took a flight here,

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Speaker 17: so I'm going on no sleep, so if Josh wins,

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Speaker 17: it doesn't count. But I I'm a stand up comedian

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Speaker 17: and I'm also a libertarian.

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Speaker 7: I'm really a follower of.

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Speaker 17: The greatest congressman who's ever lived, who is doctor Ron Paul,

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Speaker 17: who is turning ninety years old. Happy birth to him.

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Speaker 17: And it as far as look, I would say, I

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Speaker 17: think that American foreign policy for my entire life has

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Speaker 17: been insane and like criminally insane. We've launched war after war,

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Speaker 17: We've talked about peace through strength, the whole time, but

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Speaker 17: all we've gotten is permanent militarism and forever wars against

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Speaker 17: countries that pose no threat to us.

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Speaker 7: And a huge.

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Speaker 17: Part of the reason why we've embarked on this is

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Speaker 17: because the neo Conservatives hijacked our foreign policy and they

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Speaker 17: were in power after nine to eleven, and the neo Conservatives,

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Speaker 17: as everybody who's followed it knows, were joined at the

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Speaker 17: hip with the Lekud party. That's just the fact they

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Speaker 17: all admitted in their own words. And you can go

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Speaker 17: back and you can read the Clean Break memo. You

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Speaker 17: can read the companion piece Coping with Crumbling States. This

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Speaker 17: was written by David Wormser and Richard Pearl, and they

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Speaker 17: laid out their plant.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 7: Their plan was that to help Israel.

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Speaker 17: The Clean Break is a break from the peace process,

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Speaker 17: break from Oslow, which was designed to give the Palestinians

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Speaker 17: their own state. And these neo conservative geniuses decided that

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Speaker 17: instead of the Israelis making peace with the Palestinians, they

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Speaker 17: could just have the US overthrow all of the surrounding

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Speaker 17: governments that were giving Israel a hard time. And this

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Speaker 17: is where for Star General Wesley Clark says that he

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01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 17: saw the plans right after nine to eleven to overthrow

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Speaker 17: seven countries in the next five years.

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Speaker 7: And what was the last country on that list? It

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Speaker 7: was Iran. Okay, this is.

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Speaker 17: A big part of what the whole conflict is about.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 17: The neo conservatives, neo conservative has kind of become like

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01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 17: a pejorative for warhawks these days. And don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 17: I support that. Keep calling them neocons, But the actual

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Speaker 17: neo conservatives, the self identified neo conservatives, aren't really in

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 17: power anymore.

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Speaker 7: But Benjamin Netanyahu is.

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01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 17: Still in power in Israel and the LCUDE Party is

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01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 17: still pushing for this.

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Speaker 12: Now.

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Speaker 17: I want very quickly. I'll try to not go too

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Speaker 17: long here, I bet.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 17: They actually did focus group ten sting back in the

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Speaker 17: nineties before the first Gulf War in Iraq, and you know,

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01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 17: Americans weren't really moved by we have to reinstall the

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Speaker 17: King of Kuwait, but they were moved by the nuclear threat. Now,

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01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 17: if you go read Coping with Crumbling States or the

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01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 17: Clean Break Memo in the nineties, when the neocons admitted

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01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 17: they wanted to overthrow Saddam Hussein, they never said it

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01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 17: was because he had nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 7: They said he was a problem for Israel in the region.

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Speaker 17: They only made up that lie after nine to eleven

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01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 17: because they knew that's what would sell you. Maybe not

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01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 17: you, you're too young, but sell your moms and dads on

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01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 17: going and fight in this war.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, when they talked.

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Speaker 17: About wanting to overthrow Iran, it was the same thing.

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Speaker 17: Never had nothing to do with a nuclear threat. That's

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01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 17: just the thing they use now as the excuse. So, yes,

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Speaker 17: there is tremendous influence by Israel in our government. That

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Speaker 17: doesn't mean I'm subscribing to some crazy conspiracy or telling

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Speaker 17: you to hate Jewish people. I'm Jewish. I'm just saying

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Speaker 17: they have influence, they've used it in a very negative way,

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Speaker 17: and we should reject this insane foreign policy and embrace

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Speaker 17: the foreign policy that doctor Ron Paul advocated, which is

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Speaker 17: the foreign policy of the Founding Fathers. Stay out of

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01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 17: entangling Alliance says, stay out of unnecessary wars, be friends

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01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 17: with the world, and trade with the world. That's the

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Speaker 17: key to prosperity.

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Speaker 13: Thank you, Dave.

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Speaker 27: Josh opening statement.

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Speaker 13: Feel free to respond, and then we'll proceed as we go.

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Speaker 13: So that was about three and a half four minutes,

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Speaker 13: so same amount as time.

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Speaker 28: All right, So it's really great to be here. Thank

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Speaker 28: you Charlie for having me, Thank you Turning Point for

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Speaker 28: having me back. It's really wonderful to be at this

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01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 28: amazing conference. You know, Dave Joe that he didn't get

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Speaker 28: any sleep last night. Say's actually also a fast day

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Speaker 28: on the Jewish calendar. I'm not eating or even drinking water.

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Speaker 28: So we're all we're all on the same page here.

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01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 28: We're all just totally screwed. So you can kind of

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01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 28: get get off the same start start starting place there. Look,

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Speaker 28: there's a lot of substance to respond to. I'll just

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Speaker 28: really briefly do that and then talk about what I

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01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 28: actually want to talk about them. In my opening remarks,

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Speaker 28: Dave mentioned this alleged coordination between the neo Conservatives, which

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Speaker 28: I presume he means Bush era foreign policy and the

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Speaker 28: Lacud Party. I presume half of you probably don't even

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Speaker 28: know what the Locude party is. It's referring to the

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Speaker 28: Israeli right. It's very instructive, and Dave always conveniently neglects

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Speaker 28: to inform the audience of this that the actual leader

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Speaker 28: of the Israeli right back in two thousand and two,

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Speaker 28: men by the name of Ariel Sharon vehemently opposed the

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Speaker 28: Bush administration going into a rock. So this whole notion

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01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 28: that Israel is talking America into foreign warris is total nonsense. Actually,

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01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 28: twenty eleven, when the Obama administration toppled Momar Kadaffi in Libya,

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Speaker 28: it's actually well known that Libya actually sent secret diplomatic

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01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 28: envoys to Israel trying to tell them to then talk

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01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 28: to the United States and France to talk NATO off

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01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 28: of that attack there. So this whole narrative is totally

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01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 28: backwards there. But I want to kind of dumb things

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01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 28: down a little bit here. I see a lot of

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01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 28: people wearing forty seven hats. I vote a President Trump

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01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 28: multiple times. I love our president. You guys love our president? Right,

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01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,719
Speaker 28: you love President Trump? Okay, this is this is turning point.

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01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 14: Freaking us.

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Speaker 28: Say, Charlie, God bless you. You have built the largest maga

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01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 28: grassroots army in the country. Series Front you you deserve this.

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01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 28: You all are car carrying members of it. We hear

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01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 28: a part of that. The good news is that while

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01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 28: no one should be afraid of debate, and this debate

1423
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 28: is a nice thing here. The MAGA movement is actually

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01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 28: quite unified, believe it or not. All the talk to

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01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 28: the contrary when it comes to these issues. An overwhelming

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01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:18,839
Speaker 28: majority of self identified mag Republicans supports close users relations,

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01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 28: according to a CBS News poll. Moreover, after the recent

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01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 28: Operation Midnight Hammer B two bombers in Iran, ninety four

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Speaker 28: percent ninety four percent of self identified mag Republicans supported

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Speaker 28: President Trump's dropping those B two bombs on four Donatans

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01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,480
Speaker 28: and the other Ronnie facilities there. This is a wildly,

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01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 28: wildly popular policy there. What did Dave Smith say about this?

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01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 28: He re upped his now years long crusade to call

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01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 28: for Donald Trump's impeachment. Y'all probably don't know that about

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 28: Dave smithdo He's now called for Dave Smith for Donald

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01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 28: Trump to be impeached multiple times. But Dave, you know, look,

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Speaker 28: I mean, I don't like when people misquote me either.

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01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 28: You probably don't like when people misquote you. So I

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01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 28: actually have a little bit of a highlight reel here

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01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 28: of Dave Smith tweets over the years. Dave Smith March nineteenth,

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01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 28: twenty twenty four. Donald Trump is responsible for around five

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01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 28: hundred thousand debts in Yemen. In between the weapons to

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01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 28: Ukraine and the Abraham Accords. Jerusale Embassy, he is at

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01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 28: least partially responsible for the two worst humanitarian crises in

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01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 28: the world. He's a war criminal who should spend his

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01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 28: life in prison. He is calling Donald Trump a war

1447
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,960
Speaker 28: criminal who should spend his life in prison. You should

1448
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 28: be living at that. I am living that as a

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01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 28: Trump supporter Donald Trump. Dave Smith, June sixteen, twenty twenty five.

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01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 28: Trump allegedly had full prior knowledge of Israel's attacks and

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01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 28: gave it his blessing while pretending to be negotiating with

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01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 28: the Iranians as a cover. If this is true, Trump

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01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 28: is the most impotent bitch of a leader imaginable. He's

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01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,639
Speaker 28: calling our president, the greatest president in my lifetime, an

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01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 28: impotent bitch. Are you kidding me? June twenty first, twenty

1456
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 28: twenty five. Donald Trump is at an illegal war of

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01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 28: aggression against Ran.

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Speaker 8: The risk of an.

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01:24:56,439 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 28: Absolute catastrophe is very high and the benefits are non existent.

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Speaker 28: Dave Smith, June twenty first, dead wrong. This notion that

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01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 28: World War three would start. Not a single American casualty.

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01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 28: We should be celebrating that. Donald Trump fulfilled multiple He

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01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 28: fulfilled multiple campaign promises. The Escalator's speech in twenty fifteen

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01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 28: at Trump Tower, he literally said, I'm not gonna let

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01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 28: a wrong get nuclear weapon. And guess what I Also,

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01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 28: he said, I oppose a new conservative foreign policy. He

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01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,840
Speaker 28: did both of those things with Iran. He deprived the

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Speaker 28: Irani regime of nuclear weapons while not losing a single

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Speaker 28: American sailor soldier marine while depriving them of nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 28: And finally, trial I lent one this Dave Smith, July eighth,

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Speaker 28: twenty twenty five. In the last month, Donald Trump has

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Speaker 28: launched a war of aggression on behalf of a foreign government,

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01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 28: exploded the debt, announced that he's continuing the Biden policy

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01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 28: of armed Ukraine and cover up a giant child rape operation. So,

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Speaker 28: according to my interlock, yetar, Donald Trump is not just

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01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 28: engaging in wars on behalf of foreign government. He is

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01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 28: also covering up the world's giants pedophilic child sex trafficking

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01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 28: ring allegedly at presume, on behalf of foreign government as well.

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Speaker 28: So I'm disgusted, frankly that this man is on stage

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Speaker 28: that okay.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 13: Got it, so.

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01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 27: You can see piece is hard. I'm trying to keep

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Speaker 27: the peace. Now, Dave, I want to give you an

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Speaker 27: opportunity about four minutes to respond to that. But also

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01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,799
Speaker 27: I do want to now that we had the opening

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01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 27: Salvos and the Tomahawk missiles launched, Let's let's respond as

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01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 27: you see fit now and then bring us to the

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Speaker 27: twelve day war.

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Speaker 7: Is that road?

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Speaker 13: Let's stay focused on that.

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01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can't.

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Speaker 13: Well, the thing defend yourself, Sean.

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01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 7: Well, the thing is, Charlie.

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Speaker 17: As you may have noticed that some of you may

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Speaker 17: have seen some of my other debates. Every single time

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01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 17: I come up here to debate issues and they come

1498
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 17: up here to debate me and my character.

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01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 7: It's all they have.

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Speaker 17: Every single time because they can't, because they can't actually

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01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 17: take on any of the arguments. And so the most pathetic,

1502
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 17: low hanging fruit of you guys like Trump. This guy

1503
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:52,719
Speaker 17: said bad things about Trump. Listen, guys, I'm a free American.

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01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 17: I supported Donald Trump in this last election. Yes, he

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01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 17: did just actively cover up a giant child rapist ring,

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01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 17: and I'm gonna criticize him for that, Okay, And I'm

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01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,759
Speaker 17: sorry after all these years of US right wingers saying

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01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 17: protect the children, come on, that's bad for your soul

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01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 17: if you don't you speak up about that.

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01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 7: It's horrible what he's doing. And you know, as far as.

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Speaker 17: The actual substance of what Josh said here, which there

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Speaker 17: really wasn't much, but I already pointed this out the

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01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 17: last time we debated. His topic about how Sharon was

1514
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 17: against the war in Iraq is total nonsense. Sharon's envoy

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01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,880
Speaker 17: initially opposed it when he found out that Bush was

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Speaker 17: going to invade Iraq, not because he didn't want Saddam

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Speaker 17: Hussein to be overthrown, but because he wanted regime change

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Speaker 17: in Iran first.

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Speaker 7: And then when the George W.

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Speaker 17: Bush administration assured him that Iran would come next, they

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01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 17: got on board with it. And they started pumping out

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Speaker 17: all types of propaganda about how Saddam Hussein's nuclear secret.

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Speaker 7: Sites that didn't exist.

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Speaker 17: And Benjamin Netan, yahoo the longest serving prime minister in

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Speaker 17: Israeli history that year in two thousand and two, came

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Speaker 17: to Congress and testified under you know, a regal testimony

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Speaker 17: that anyone can go watch and advocate it not that

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Speaker 17: the US let Israel do it, but that the US

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Speaker 17: overthrows Saddam Hussein. I believe his words were, I guarantee

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Speaker 17: that peace will spread through the region. And he also

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01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 17: advocated that we overthrow Momar Kadafi and the Mulla isn't around.

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Speaker 17: So that's just you're just wrong about it. That's not true.

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Speaker 17: And yes, have I been critical of Donald Trump when

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Speaker 17: I think he gets things wrong. Yeah, I mean I

1535
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 17: think that's what we should do. This is America. You

1536
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 17: criticize the government when they get things wrong, and.

1537
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 13: So I war criminals. I gotta keep the peace here.

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01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 27: Dave thought a minute ish, Okay, No, I'm taking a

1539
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 27: right time. I'm just look as far as far as

1540
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 27: twelve day war thing.

1541
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, sure, as far as the twelve day war goes,

1542
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 17: I mean, look, I'll be honest, Donald Trump, it might

1543
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 17: be the greatest thing he's ever done in his life

1544
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,560
Speaker 17: that at the end of the twelve Day War, he

1545
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 17: after the Iranian response was as weak as it and

1546
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 17: they gave us advanced warning, so there were no American casualties.

1547
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:06,759
Speaker 17: He started pushing for a ceasefire, and that was great

1548
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:08,920
Speaker 17: that he did that. But the point is that the

1549
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,719
Speaker 17: war never needed to be launched to begin with. Iran

1550
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 17: did not have nuclear weapons. Iran, according to all of

1551
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 17: the according to all of the intelligence, including our Director

1552
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 17: of National Intelligence, until a day after Israel bombed them

1553
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 17: and she changed her mind. Go read the annual threat

1554
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 17: assessment from earlier this year. Iran had not made the

1555
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 17: political decision to acquire a nuclear weapon, and they were

1556
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 17: in negotiations with Donald Trump at the time to bring

1557
01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 17: their enrichment down.

1558
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 7: God, there was just no need other.

1559
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 17: Than the fact that Benjamin Netanyaw, who wants that regime over.

1560
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 13: Gosh feel fe to respond.

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01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 28: Yeah, I'd be curious if Dave Smith also believes in

1562
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,200
Speaker 28: the tooth fairy a and pink unicorns. I mean, what

1563
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 28: lie does Dave Smith not believe? Frankly, look, the recent

1564
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 28: twelve day War is literally the encapsulation of the Trump

1565
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:01,960
Speaker 28: doctrine of foreign policy. Donald Trump ran against neo conservatism.

1566
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 28: He is not a neo conservative. That's good because neo

1567
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 28: conservatism is actually really, really bad. I actually have a

1568
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 28: whole chapter in my book, Israel and Civilization talking about

1569
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 28: how bad neo conservatism is is chapter seven. If you

1570
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 28: haven't read, you should go ahead and pick up a copy.

1571
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 28: So it's really good that Donald Trump opposes moralistic nation

1572
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 28: building boondoggles.

1573
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 14: Guess what.

1574
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 28: Donald Trump is also not and never has been since

1575
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 28: day one. He's never been a hardcore isolationist. He is

1576
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 28: a foreign policy nationalist and realist. We would say that

1577
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 28: he is a Jacksonian. He is in the mold of

1578
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 28: Andrew Jackson, one of his favorite presidents of all time,

1579
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 28: because he believes in generally following the very wise advice

1580
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 28: of George Washington in his farewell address that you should

1581
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 28: be aware of foreign entanglements, but when you are attacked,

1582
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 28: you are going to punch back three times as hard.

1583
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 28: How many times has Trump said that in a debate there,

1584
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 28: when he's punched, he's going to punch back really, really,

1585
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,120
Speaker 28: really hard. What happened in the Twelve Day War was

1586
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,960
Speaker 28: you had a close ally Israel that through their wonderful

1587
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 28: control of this guy, and they're taking out the missile

1588
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 28: launchers and the IRGC command. They're essentially paved a very

1589
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 28: clean runway through that and they're neutralizing has Bola last

1590
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 28: year in twenty twenty four. That then allowed the United

1591
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 28: States to come in with the B two bombers and

1592
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 28: the death blow. It was a perfect alleyu for you

1593
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 28: basketball fans, it was kind of like Kobe Bryant tossing

1594
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 28: it to Shaquille O'Neil back in the way. It was

1595
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 28: a perfect tag team operation to neutralize and set back

1596
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,719
Speaker 28: by many years the threat of a regime that, whether

1597
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 28: or not we care to admit it, has actually been

1598
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 28: at war with the United States at least since the

1599
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 28: nineteen eighty three b Root Lebanon has Balla Barracks bombings

1600
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 28: that slaughtered two hundred and forty one marines, arguably since

1601
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 28: the nineteen seventy nine hostage crisis as well. Again, Donald

1602
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:43,640
Speaker 28: trum fulfilled multiple campaign promises he set back the nuclear program.

1603
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 28: Not a single American soldier, sailor, or marine dot. It

1604
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 28: was a brilliant, brilliant move of statesmanship, a fantastical move. Frankly,

1605
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 28: it's a borderline Mount Rushmore worthy accomplishmen would say.

1606
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 13: So, here's what I'm gonna do.

1607
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,200
Speaker 27: I'm gonna insert myself because I don't want to have

1608
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 27: to talk past each other, because these conversations have a

1609
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 27: tendency to do that. So I'm gonna try to I'm

1610
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 27: gonna ask both of you a critical question that both

1611
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 27: of you guys already launched. Josh to you first, Dave's contention,

1612
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 27: and Dave, you can correct me ifver wrong is that

1613
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 27: the nuclear program was not a threat, correct that it

1614
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 27: was a intel push. Would you even say that what

1615
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 27: I'm strong manning your argument steel manning it, Josh, what

1616
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 27: do you have to say to that, to the veracity

1617
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 27: of the claim that there was an imminent threat of

1618
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 27: Iran getting a nuclear bump that is a core point

1619
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 27: of Dave's argument than Dave, I'm gonna throw back an

1620
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 27: equally difficult question for you, Josh.

1621
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 28: So I profess agnosticism as to the imminage nature of

1622
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 28: Charlie because I have not seen the reports, neither of

1623
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 28: you nowther as Dave. Literally no one this room has

1624
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 28: actually seen the report. So I do not know literally

1625
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 28: what the exactly imminent nature of the threat was. It

1626
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,519
Speaker 28: would be impossible for me to say, I'm not going

1627
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 28: to bullshit you and pretend like I know, because I

1628
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 28: simply don't know. What I can say is the following.

1629
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 28: Iran has transparently and obviously been trying to acquire a

1630
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 28: nuclear weapon for two and a half three decades. We

1631
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,759
Speaker 28: know this for approximately one to two million different reasons.

1632
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 28: Among them that we can point to is that the IAEA,

1633
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,759
Speaker 28: the International Atomic Energy Administration, which is essentially the nuclear

1634
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 28: watchdog for the United Nations. They have been sounding the

1635
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 28: alarm about this, and they have said very loudly and

1636
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 28: clearly that Iran has blocked their inspectors from going to

1637
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 28: inspect their enriched uranium, and that they have concluded over

1638
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 28: the over recent years, especially including recent months, that Iran

1639
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 28: is enriching uranium at a much quicker rate into a

1640
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 28: much higher percentage and rate of enrichment than any civilian

1641
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 28: program would ever justify. By the way, the notion that

1642
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 28: Iran even needs a civilian program in the first place,

1643
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 28: I think is kind of bonkers. Is one of the

1644
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 28: most petroleum, oil and gas rich countries in the world,

1645
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 28: so that's kind of a bit of a red herring

1646
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 28: in and of itself. But we know from a million

1647
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,600
Speaker 28: different international organizations that they have been doing this, And

1648
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,000
Speaker 28: Charlie more to the point again, you know, Dave likes

1649
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 28: to say, oh, they just chant death to America, which

1650
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 28: they do, they literally chanted every single day in their

1651
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 28: Potempkin Parliament, but they actually do act on it. They

1652
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 28: killed hundreds and hundreds of American soldiers on the roadside

1653
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 28: of Fallujah, all Onmbar Province during Iraq with Kasai Sulivani's

1654
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 28: applied IEDs. They have killed Americans going back to the

1655
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 28: two hundred forty one Marines in Bairut Lebanon. By the way,

1656
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 28: the Hasbology hottists who organized that operation to slaughter those

1657
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 28: Marines in Bairut Lebanon in nineteen eighty three was manned

1658
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,719
Speaker 28: by the name of Fuad Shakur. The US State Department

1659
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 28: had a five million dollar bounty on his head following

1660
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 28: the nineteen eighty three slaughter of the Marines there in Beirut.

1661
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 28: He went alive for forty one years. You know who

1662
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:29,640
Speaker 28: killed him? Last year the IDEF Israel took out this

1663
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 28: guy that the State Department had a five million dollar

1664
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 28: bounty out for forty one years for killing two hundred

1665
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 28: and forty one of our boys back in nineteen eighty three.

1666
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 14: And Beroute.

1667
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:40,520
Speaker 27: So I'm gonna now ask job. I'm a really tough follow.

1668
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 13: Up for you.

1669
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 27: You do not want Iran to get a nuclear weapon?

1670
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:43,719
Speaker 7: Bad?

1671
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:47,320
Speaker 27: Would you if it ever took, if it required US

1672
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:49,680
Speaker 27: troops on the ground, would that be worth a ron?

1673
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 13: Not getting a nuclear weapon?

1674
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 28: Charlie, with respect, I reject the premise. I simply do

1675
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 28: not think it does.

1676
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 27: Actually, I know it's a hypothetical, but it's worth thinking about. Okay, Dave,

1677
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 27: I got to ask you tough questions now, Yeah, my.

1678
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 17: Guy, I want to respond to some of this stuff

1679
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 17: because all of that.

1680
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 27: You will, you will hold on. I don't want us

1681
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 27: to talk past each other. Else we're gonna spend all

1682
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 27: this time on prime ministers in two thousand and two

1683
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 27: that the audience doesn't know about it.

1684
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 17: But he's making claims about like something that's jering not.

1685
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 27: I want you to get to I want to just

1686
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 27: ask a very simple question from your perspective, because I

1687
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 27: just asked the tough one to Josh, is are you

1688
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 27: okay or do you think we should do anything to

1689
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:28,679
Speaker 27: prevent a Ron from getting a new clear bond?

1690
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 17: I'm anything sure. Yeah, there's lots of things I think

1691
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 17: we should do. And military action ever justified. Well, again,

1692
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 17: this is a yes, there are times when military action

1693
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 17: is justified. But if you're saying what we could do

1694
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,200
Speaker 17: to prevent around from getting a nuclear weapon, what we

1695
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 17: were doing. Donald Trump was in negotiations with them, and

1696
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 17: I think he should have continued those and the truth

1697
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 17: is that the big problem with the JCPOA that Obama

1698
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,719
Speaker 17: got us into was that there were sunset provisions. They

1699
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 17: opened up a whole new inspections regime. It is not

1700
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 17: true that the IAEA is saying that Iran was about

1701
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 17: to get a nuclear weapon. Anybody you want all it's

1702
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 17: published online. You can go read the conclusion of their

1703
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 17: last report where they explicitly said Iran does not have

1704
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 17: nuclear weapons and is not trying.

1705
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 7: To develop them.

1706
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 17: They are enriching at sixty percent, and they were in

1707
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 17: negotiations to maybe bring that down. But you know, when

1708
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 17: you bring up when you bring up the fact that

1709
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,759
Speaker 17: the Marines getting killed in nineteen eighty three, it's actually

1710
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 17: an interesting if. Ronald Reagan, who was president at the time,

1711
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 17: he wrote about this in his memoir. Now, if you

1712
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 17: know what Ronald Reagan did was he pulled out after that,

1713
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 17: he turned tail and run, and he said in his

1714
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 17: memoir he said, I underestimated the irrationality of Middle Eastern

1715
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 17: politics and we never should have gotten involved in that. Now,

1716
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,879
Speaker 17: if you want to say that Iran backed them, okay.

1717
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 17: A couple of years after that, Charlie, there was a

1718
01:36:45,080 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 17: scandal in the Reagan administration. It was the something contrast

1719
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:52,919
Speaker 17: a RAN contract. That's right, Ronald Reagan was selling weapons

1720
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 17: to the Iranians a couple of years after this happened.

1721
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,280
Speaker 17: So to come back now forty plus years later and

1722
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 17: use that as the excuse why we got to go

1723
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 17: to war with the Ran, I mean, just think about

1724
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 17: how crazy this is. And the stuff he said about

1725
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 17: the roadside bombs in Iraq is just not true. It's

1726
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 17: been debunked. It's more war propaganda that's been debunked. I

1727
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 17: highly recommend anyone can read the book enough already. I

1728
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 17: highly recommend people read the book enough already. It is

1729
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 17: the best book that's been written about the Terror wars

1730
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 17: by Scott Horton. He has all the footnotes in there,

1731
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 17: you can go through it yourself.

1732
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:26,959
Speaker 7: It's completely debunked.

1733
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 17: Those roadside bombs were built by Sheites in Iraq. Now

1734
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 17: I'm not saying now some of them did have relationships

1735
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 17: with Iran, but the majority of Iraq is SITE. So yes,

1736
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 17: we invaded the next door country and we got into

1737
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,439
Speaker 17: some fights with the SITE groups there. But to say

1738
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 17: that's a reason why we now have to invade Iran

1739
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 17: or we have to bomb them or something.

1740
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 27: It just doesn't make any sense. I just so one

1741
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 27: or two really quick. Chris follows, and then we'll do this.

1742
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 27: Both sides need to get under good cross examination. Do

1743
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 27: you think it would be bad if a Roan got

1744
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 27: a nuclear bomb?

1745
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 7: Yes? I think it's bad. I think it's bad, and

1746
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Speaker 7: that moral.

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Speaker 17: I don't think anybody should be allowed to have nuclear

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Speaker 17: weapons secretly?

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01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 13: Right?

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Speaker 7: And so how about that?

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Speaker 27: I will ask Josh about that, because that's a not

1752
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 27: so subtle dig at Israel.

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Speaker 17: Hell, hold on, are you suggesting that Israel has nuclear we?

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 13: Actually it probably did, you do.

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Speaker 27: I don't know the intelligence. I'm not that of dn I,

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01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 27: but I mean they probably do. But let me ask you, Dave,

1758
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 27: now another question. What is your Now, let's just say criticism.

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01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 27: No US troops were killed, it required no use troops

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Speaker 27: on the ground, there was no war lasted twelve days,

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Speaker 27: Fourdeaux was pretty eliminated, and even the Iranians say it

1762
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 27: so looking at it now twelve days later, what is

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01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 27: your problem with what seems to be a masterclass in

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01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 27: twelve days in out, no problem, no US troops and

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01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 27: we've kind of moved on.

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Speaker 13: What what would your problem with that be.

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Speaker 17: You know, I think, and I do think, there's something

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01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 17: really sick and poisoning about this is that our country

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01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 17: has become so addicted to war that if we launch

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Speaker 17: a war and you go, well, hey, it wasn't a

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Speaker 17: complete catastrophe.

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Speaker 7: I mean a million people.

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Speaker 17: Didn't die in this one, like in Iraq, or hundreds

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Speaker 17: of thousands didn't die in this one like in Afghanistan

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Speaker 17: or liby Ar Siria. It's like, okay, look, people died

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Speaker 17: in this war. Okay, there were both Iranian civilians and

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Speaker 17: Israeli civilians who died in this war. There's a terrible

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Speaker 17: fit for them in their families. This was a catastrophe.

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Speaker 17: And my point is that the war never needed to

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Speaker 17: be launched to begin with. But there's no reason why

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Speaker 17: we even have to be enemies with Iran.

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Speaker 7: They opposed.

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Speaker 17: No, this is a third world country in the Middle

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Speaker 17: East that does not have nuclear weapons, does not have

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Speaker 17: intercontinental ballistic missiles, does not have an air force capable

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Speaker 17: of hitting us with anything. This is Israel's problem. We

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01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,680
Speaker 17: don't need to be involved in that. Sorry, we got

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Speaker 17: our own issues here. And look again, I'll give Donald

1789
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 17: Trump credit that Okay, it didn't turn into a catastrophe.

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Speaker 17: He took the off ramp when he had the chance.

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Speaker 17: But look, a lot of that was out of Donald

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Speaker 17: Trump's control. The risk of this war. Like a lot

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01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 17: of people love to like, Josh likes to read my tweets.

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Speaker 17: When I was saying this could turn into a catastrophe, because.

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Speaker 14: You were dead wrong, he looks stupid.

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Speaker 13: Gosh, Josh say no, no, let's de escalate this same

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Speaker 13: no actively.

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Speaker 17: What Josh is saying is the lowest IQ argument that

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Speaker 17: anyone can make. I'm warning, I was warning that there's

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Speaker 17: a risk of its catastrophe, and he's saying you're stupid

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Speaker 17: because there wasn't a catastrophe.

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Speaker 7: This is on the level of playing Russian Roulette.

1803
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Speaker 17: And if the bullet doesn't go off, you go, see, dummy,

1804
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 17: you were warning that could go bad.

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Speaker 7: That doesn't prove anything. Listen for all you guys.

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01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,920
Speaker 17: If you talking about how big and bad the Iranians

1807
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 17: are and what a scary threat they are, what if

1808
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 17: they hadn't given us advanced notice? What if a ran

1809
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 17: was actually as suicidal as people like Josh pretend they are,

1810
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Speaker 17: and what if their response had killed a few hundred Americans?

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Speaker 17: In the region, which by all military assessments, they are

1812
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Speaker 17: capable of doing.

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Speaker 7: What would Donald Trump have had to do? Then, Charlie,

1814
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 7: was he? What would it you get?

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Speaker 13: I'm asking I'm a moderate?

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Speaker 17: No, no, no, okay, sorry, Like come on, Dave, it

1817
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 17: was a rhetorical cut, I.

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Speaker 13: Know, but both sides are getting tough questions.

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01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 17: Is Donald Trump would have had to respond even harder

1820
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Speaker 17: and then we're gonna happen.

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01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:14,799
Speaker 27: Let's let's give Josh a chance to respond.

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01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 13: But first it didn't happen.

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Speaker 27: It's a counter you hadn't had when when when people

1824
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 27: talk over each other, they don't like listening to that.

1825
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 27: So that's why I'm here, Josh. I want you to

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Speaker 27: respond to that. But to Dave's point, do you think

1827
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 27: Israel has a secret nuclear program?

1828
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Speaker 13: And is that a problem?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 28: I think it's not particularly disputed that Israel has a

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Speaker 28: nuclear program. We know exactly where it is based. This

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Speaker 28: is this is not a particularly hidden thing there. I mean,

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Speaker 28: it's so well known, in fact, Charlie, that I don't

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Speaker 28: know exactly why it's officially a secret. Unofficially it's not

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Speaker 28: much of a secret. I'm non ISRAELI I have no

1836
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Speaker 28: idea why the exact policy is the way it is.

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Speaker 28: I don't particularly have a program with it. As I said,

1838
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Speaker 28: is one of the world's worst kept secrets.

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Speaker 14: It kind of just just is what it is.

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Speaker 28: But more generally speaking, I do understand while we're going

1841
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 28: so far down this rabbit hole, would have, could have,

1842
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 28: should have the people. Look, let's say something very simple here.

1843
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 28: The people who said that Donald Trump's involvement in the

1844
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 28: thirty seven hour operation of the B two bombers flying

1845
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:13,719
Speaker 28: from Missouri to Iran and back with not a single

1846
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,719
Speaker 28: shot fired at our boys. By the way, as I said,

1847
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Speaker 28: that was partially due to the fact that the IDF

1848
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:23,120
Speaker 28: had so neutralized the Iranian Air Force and their defenses there,

1849
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Speaker 28: So the fact that he was able to accomplish that

1850
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:29,240
Speaker 28: so amazingly there. We should have seen that coming because

1851
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,880
Speaker 28: it was actually pretty easily foreseeable. And the people who

1852
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 28: did not see that coming are the people who have

1853
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 28: lost credibility to comment frankly on these affairs. People who

1854
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 28: warned about thousands and thousand, thousands of dead American lives

1855
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 28: and said that China and Russia would swoop in and

1856
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Speaker 28: that this would be World War three, Well, you know what,

1857
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 28: God blessed you all because you apparently survived World War three.

1858
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 28: It was the shortest World War three of all of

1859
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Speaker 28: our lifetime. And Dave I restrained, Josh, Josh, keep going again.

1860
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,920
Speaker 28: This is the Donald Trump foreign policy doctrine inaction. It

1861
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:01,439
Speaker 28: is quick surgical strikes Rogerstone was talking about earlier. It's

1862
01:43:01,479 --> 01:43:06,480
Speaker 28: exactly right. He is not a neocon. Neo conservatism, bad isolationism,

1863
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:07,639
Speaker 28: also nai even stupid.

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01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 14: Donald Trump agrees to both those things.

1865
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Speaker 28: The nationalist realist MAGA america first approach to foreign policy

1866
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,960
Speaker 28: is to have strong nationalist allies that are generally capable

1867
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,800
Speaker 28: of securing and patrolling their own regions in a way,

1868
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,519
Speaker 28: there were downs not merely to the allies national interest,

1869
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,880
Speaker 28: but also to the American national interest.

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Speaker 14: That is exactly what Israel has been.

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Speaker 28: Doing for forty fifty years, as they have taken out

1872
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 28: Islamist and Shuria supremacist thugs in Gaza, in Yemen. Hasballah

1873
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,840
Speaker 28: I mentioned Fua chakor the Hasbiologihati who killed two undred

1874
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,639
Speaker 28: forty one Marines in Beirut Lebanon nineteen eighty three. There's

1875
01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 28: a million examples there. That is the definition of an

1876
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 28: America first ally, and what has happened in the Twelve

1877
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Speaker 28: Day War is an encapsulation of the America first Trump

1878
01:43:47,320 --> 01:43:49,600
Speaker 28: doctrine that in this case, this tag team between the

1879
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 28: US and Israel against the mutual threveron inaction.

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Speaker 27: Okay, So I want to now move because it's important,

1881
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 27: but it's connected. So I think we have on full

1882
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 27: display a difference of opinion on the twelve Day War.

1883
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 13: Now let's go to the one.

1884
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 27: It's inferred in both of these points, but you only

1885
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 27: get to answered as yes and no one of the time.

1886
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Speaker 28: Is Israel an ally of the United States? Yes, of

1887
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 28: course no.

1888
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 13: Okay, So now we have disagreement.

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Speaker 27: We're gonna now figure that out, and then I want

1890
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:17,600
Speaker 27: to then indicate it in that is is Israel influencing

1891
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 27: American politics? So I'm gonna start with Josh, and then

1892
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 27: we'll go back to Dave. You say Israel is an ally,

1893
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 27: spend a minute on that, and then address how some

1894
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 27: people have concerns that Israel is influenced in the US government,

1895
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,759
Speaker 27: and then I'll allow Dave to have some time. Josh,

1896
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 27: all right, there's multiple reasons why Israel is an ally

1897
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Speaker 27: First and foremost, you know, I think most people in

1898
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 27: this room are believers of some stripe, right, I am Jewish,

1899
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,759
Speaker 27: most of you are are probably Christians, and God bless

1900
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 27: you for that. If you have any attachment whatsoever to

1901
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 27: the Holy Size, if you have any attachment whatsoever to

1902
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 27: this narrow strip of land between the river and the sea,

1903
01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 27: as the Hamas propagandists call it, then you're going to

1904
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 27: have some reason to care about this particular sliver of land.

1905
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 27: That's point number one. Just kind of get out there,

1906
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,640
Speaker 27: especially if you understand that we and Western civilization are

1907
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 27: fundamentally at war with barbarism, Barbarism being best represented by

1908
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,759
Speaker 27: the Islamists and Sharia supremacist. When you understand the Western

1909
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,839
Speaker 27: civilization really just is the Bible, there is a special

1910
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 27: calling to have an ally with a certain part of

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Speaker 27: the Middle East.

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Speaker 14: That's point one.

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01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,639
Speaker 28: Point two is just the islmist deterrent point, Charlie, which

1914
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 28: is that America has faced jihadism time and time again,

1915
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 28: going back for forty to fifty years, nine to eleven. Obviously,

1916
01:45:30,280 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 28: the most tragic example we just saw it again on

1917
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:34,360
Speaker 28: the streets of Bourbon Street in New Orleans on January first,

1918
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 28: just a few months ago. There If you care about

1919
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 28: deterring Islamism from conquering Western civilization, a point that you

1920
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 28: have very astutely been talking about a lot recently on

1921
01:45:41,760 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 28: your TV hits on social media, A very very important point.

1922
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 28: If you care about defending Western civilization from the barbarians,

1923
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,760
Speaker 28: you absolutely have to place a special premium on this

1924
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 28: particular relationship. And then third is that if you actually care,

1925
01:45:54,439 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 28: as I do. You know, paradoxically, I actually care a

1926
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:00,240
Speaker 28: lot about China. In fact, I think that America because

1927
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 28: by far number one biggest threat this century is China.

1928
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 28: If you care about effectuating this broader pivot to the

1929
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 28: Indo Pacific, as American Forum positive people been talking about

1930
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 28: for twenty thirty years now, you have to have some

1931
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 28: way of stabilizing the Middle East. The way to do

1932
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 28: that is not to just adopt the stupid and acidine

1933
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 28: Barack Obama foreign policy of appeasing America's enemies. And the

1934
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 28: way to do that is to embold in your allies. Again,

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Speaker 28: that is the Trump doctrine.

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Speaker 27: So we didn't get to the second part of the question.

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01:46:28,280 --> 01:46:29,600
Speaker 27: So do you want to start on the ally and

1938
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 27: then we'll do Yeah, you can incorporate both, Dave he

1939
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 27: had two answers in a row, so take three to

1940
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:34,479
Speaker 27: four minutes.

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01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 17: Well, look, this idea that the great battle of our

1942
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 17: time is US verst the Islamists, US versus these barbarians.

1943
01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 17: You know, that's really the problem here in the United

1944
01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 17: States of America, Lebanon, That's what you gotta worry about.

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Speaker 7: Listen.

1946
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 17: I think everyone here, all you guys should know this

1947
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:54,639
Speaker 17: at this point. Our problem in America is the deep

1948
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,160
Speaker 17: State of the United States of America.

1949
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Speaker 7: Okay, they are the ones.

1950
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 17: They are the ones who framed Donald Trump for treason,

1951
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 17: his own intelligence agencies frame the sitting US president. And

1952
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:08,800
Speaker 17: you know what that deep state wants, by the way,

1953
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 17: permanent war. That's what they always want. That's how they

1954
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 17: and their friends make their money. And so all of

1955
01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 17: this talk is just so ridiculous, man, I mean this

1956
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 17: talk about how like, if you care about the Holy

1957
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Speaker 17: sites in Israel, Like, okay, sure, obviously Christians and Jews

1958
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 17: and Muslims have a connection to that land, but that

1959
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Speaker 17: doesn't mean we have to bomb Iran for Israel. That

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Speaker 17: doesn't well we just bombed aroand that was the first topic. Okay, okay, anyway,

1961
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Speaker 17: there doesn't mean that we have to support Israel slaughtering

1962
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Speaker 17: people in Gaza. None of that has anything to do

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Speaker 17: with the Holy sites, and in fact, a lot of

1964
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 17: sites get destroyed when there's bombs flying. But listen, the

1965
01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 17: real problem for America. If you want to even talk

1966
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 17: about like the Islam, Islam taking over America or take

1967
01:48:00,160 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 17: over Europe, well, how.

1968
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 7: Did that happen?

1969
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 17: That happened because we completely destabilized the region, fighting war

1970
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Speaker 17: after war after war that did nothing but slaughter hundreds

1971
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 17: of thousands of people. And then our Western governments had

1972
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 17: the most insane open immigration policy that was basically suicidal.

1973
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:19,720
Speaker 7: We're doing this to ourselves.

1974
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,759
Speaker 17: We're thirty seven trillion dollars in debt and we're looking

1975
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Speaker 17: for another.

1976
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Speaker 7: Enemy to go fight.

1977
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:28,879
Speaker 17: Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, we've spent twenty

1978
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 17: trillion dollars on empire and wars. And you know what,

1979
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 17: we can't tax enough money to pay for it. We

1980
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 17: can't borrow enough money to pay for it. So what

1981
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 17: do we do. We print the money. And now you

1982
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 17: guys are coming out into the world and you're wondering

1983
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 17: why you're six figures in.

1984
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 7: Debt from college and you're getting.

1985
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 17: A job at door dash and the average house goes

1986
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:56,000
Speaker 17: for eight hundred grand because we've destroyed the currency, chasing

1987
01:48:56,040 --> 01:49:00,120
Speaker 17: these monsters that were never any threat to our country.

1988
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Speaker 17: So one quick point and Youtolf Hitler and the Nazis

1989
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 17: couldn't bring down America. Joseph Stalin and the Kamis couldn't

1990
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Speaker 17: bring down America. The British Empire couldn't bring down America.

1991
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Speaker 17: But you think the Hesbelah and Lebanon are a threat

1992
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Speaker 17: to us? They're a problem for Israel to deal with.

1993
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Speaker 28: We are that the Babirut barretts bombing in nineteen eighty three.

1994
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Speaker 28: Seriously say that to them. Have you spoken to the

1995
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:30,439
Speaker 28: families are the people who have been killed in nineteen

1996
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Speaker 28: eighty three and Babirut Lebanon the people who have been

1997
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Speaker 28: killed by those IEDs and a rot that you're just

1998
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Speaker 28: casually's missing. Have you actually spoken to any these families?

1999
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Speaker 28: First of all, yes, I have nine eleven families, any

2000
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:38,720
Speaker 28: of them?

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Speaker 7: Yes I have?

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Speaker 14: Are you aware?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: OK, so you're just asking me questions.

2005
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Speaker 7: That's stupid.

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Speaker 13: This is why I'm here.

2007
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Speaker 27: So why don't we both just take a deep breath.

2008
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 27: Because they want to see a debate where they can

2009
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 27: make their mind up. They don't want to see interruptive stuff. Okay,

2010
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Speaker 27: that's why this is going to be a different type

2011
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Speaker 27: of discussion. So let me both steel Man, you're both arguments.

2012
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Speaker 27: You have to answer to me. Okay, So Josh, Well,

2013
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Speaker 27: actually to Dave first and then to Josh, Josh is saying,

2014
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Speaker 27: what about all of the Islamist death that they're responsible for,

2015
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Speaker 27: be root bombings, You mentioned the shie. That's basically the

2016
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Speaker 27: essence of your argument, right, Josh by saying did you

2017
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Speaker 27: talk to he's saying, why are you minimizing this?

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Speaker 13: That would be Josh's contention. Is that fair, Josh?

2019
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Speaker 14: And nine to eleven is right?

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Speaker 27: Dave responded that, and then I will throw it back

2021
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Speaker 27: to Josh.

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Speaker 17: Well, I certainly don't think I in any way minimized

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Speaker 17: any of those deaths. I've made the point that around

2024
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Speaker 17: that Ronald Reagan still sold weapons to a Ran a

2025
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Speaker 17: couple of years after that, and I made the point

2026
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Speaker 17: that those roadside weapons were built in Iraq by sites

2027
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:52,960
Speaker 17: they are. That's not minimizing it. This is a huge

2028
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 17: part of the reason why we never should have invaded

2029
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Speaker 17: Iraq to begin with, because we get our bravest young

2030
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Speaker 17: boys killed.

2031
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Speaker 7: It's ten you know, tens of foul of them have

2032
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Speaker 7: have committed.

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Speaker 17: Suicide in the last few years, and that doesn't seem

2034
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Speaker 17: to stop anyone from wanting to pursue the next attack.

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Speaker 17: So the point is right that I think if we

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Speaker 17: want to really understand this stuff, it's it's wise to

2037
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Speaker 17: look at what some of the motivating factors for the

2038
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 17: for the hatred against us.

2039
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Speaker 7: Is. All you got to do is listen.

2040
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Speaker 17: Yes, I have talked actually to families of people who.

2041
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Speaker 7: Have died in Iraq.

2042
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Speaker 17: You know what, Overwhelmingly they're non interventionists, anti war people.

2043
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Speaker 7: Now, in fact, did.

2044
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Speaker 17: You know that in two thousand and eight and in

2045
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:35,759
Speaker 17: twenty twelve, doctor Ron Paul got more money from active

2046
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:40,520
Speaker 17: duty military than all the other candidates combined, including Barack Obama,

2047
01:51:40,600 --> 01:51:43,880
Speaker 17: because the active duty military are actually the ones who

2048
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:44,679
Speaker 17: are the most hardcore.

2049
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Speaker 7: Now I wore now, don't don't invoke them. Let's try

2050
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Speaker 7: to sell another.

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Speaker 27: But but Dave, I'm going to follow up with a

2052
01:51:50,680 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 27: tough quote. I want I want you to make the

2053
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 27: case because I don't I don't want to have you

2054
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,800
Speaker 27: be able to get past this. You say, Israel is

2055
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Speaker 27: not an ally that that is not an opinion that

2056
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 27: people hear a lot.

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Speaker 13: Why is that.

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Speaker 17: Look all I'm saying is Israel has at every turn.

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Speaker 17: And look again, when I say Israel, I'm talking about

2060
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Speaker 17: the government of Israel. I'm not talking about the people

2061
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Speaker 17: they are. And I'm specifically talking about Benjamin Nettan Yahoo

2062
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Speaker 17: and the Lacud party, who have been in control for

2063
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Speaker 17: most of this time, for most of my lifetime, yeah,

2064
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Speaker 17: and right most of the twenty first century. And so

2065
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 17: when I say they have been constantly pushing America toward

2066
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Speaker 17: more aggressive policies, toward getting in more fights. And just

2067
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Speaker 17: like I always say, if you went out to the

2068
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Speaker 17: bar every single night with your friend, and every night

2069
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 17: your friend's trying to convince you to get into a fight,

2070
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Speaker 17: and while you're beating a lot of people up, you're

2071
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Speaker 17: also taking a lot of wounds, and you're going to

2072
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 17: jail and you're getting in trouble. You got to stop

2073
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,280
Speaker 17: hanging out with that friend. And so I think that

2074
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Speaker 17: I my position, don't I don't believe in in wars

2075
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 17: of aggression and wars of choice. I don't believe in sanctions.

2076
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 17: We don't believe that we should be friends with Israel.

2077
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Speaker 17: We should trade with Israel and have a good relationship

2078
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Speaker 17: with them.

2079
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:06,320
Speaker 7: But you know what, I also.

2080
01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 17: Don't believe in welfare, and they shouldn't get another dime

2081
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 17: of US taxpayer money. And they should not so belield

2082
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 17: on their lobby. Their lobby should register as.

2083
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Speaker 13: A false That's a good segue, finished, And.

2084
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 7: They should stop blackmailing our politics.

2085
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Speaker 13: Got it? So back to Josh. Back to Josh.

2086
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 27: Dave had some uninterrupted time there. Let's now address that

2087
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 27: because you know, again there's a text chain. I have

2088
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:30,880
Speaker 27: all the text to prove it. Everyone knew where this

2089
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:34,000
Speaker 27: debate was going, right, Dave. There's been no surprises, Josh.

2090
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 27: You knew that there are some concerns, and Dave mentioned

2091
01:53:36,479 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 27: it such as you I think you're saying a pack

2092
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 27: Is that correct?

2093
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 7: Well, the broader Israel lobby, but that's certainly part of it.

2094
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:46,040
Speaker 27: Can you address this, Josh, because this is a question

2095
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,160
Speaker 27: people are confused about. Take take two to three minutes

2096
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 27: on this and then build out the ally Israel at

2097
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 27: the end of it. But Josh, Dave is making a point,

2098
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:55,639
Speaker 27: I'd like you to respond.

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Speaker 28: Okay, So, first of all, I'm not a fan of

2100
01:53:59,120 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 28: a pack have I donated one stay pack fifty four

2101
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:05,679
Speaker 28: dollars like a decade ago, and I basically got swindled

2102
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Speaker 28: into doing it, So I'm not a fan of a pack.

2103
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 28: But APAK is not this nefarious boogeyman that Dave spent

2104
01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,520
Speaker 28: Peple make it out to be. It stands for America

2105
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 28: Israel Political Action Committee. It is a group of Americans

2106
01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 28: who place a premium on the US Israel relationship, the

2107
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 28: same way that the NRA is a group of Americans

2108
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:24,839
Speaker 28: who plays a premium on the Second Amendment.

2109
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Speaker 14: I do too.

2110
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Speaker 28: I'm a concealed carry kind of guy myself, same way

2111
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 28: that there are any number of other lobby groups that

2112
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 28: support any number of other things. By the way, there's

2113
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 28: also similar groups similar to a PAC, for American citizens

2114
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 28: to support US relations with other foreign countries. Funny how

2115
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:39,839
Speaker 28: these other groups never get brought.

2116
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 14: Up in this debate.

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Speaker 28: For instance, anyone who's been to Glendale, California, you probably

2118
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Speaker 28: heard folks in ANKA. That's the Armenia National Committee of America,

2119
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Speaker 28: a very loud, active group in Washington, d C. Perhaps

2120
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Speaker 28: more nefariously, there is the NIAC, the National Iranian American Council.

2121
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 28: It's funny call in these debates when you talk about

2122
01:54:56,280 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 28: various American citizens who get involved to lobby or or

2123
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,760
Speaker 28: to express their political opinion, as the First Woman gives

2124
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Speaker 28: you the right to do, because they think that the

2125
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 28: US national interest is served by allying with a certain country.

2126
01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,000
Speaker 28: It's funny and perhaps a little worse than funny. How

2127
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 28: the whole register as a foreign agent talking point comes

2128
01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:17,160
Speaker 28: up only in one context, in one context only, which

2129
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 28: is a PAC. Look the notion, Charlie, that APAC, which

2130
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 28: again I'm not a fan of. I have literally I'm

2131
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 28: not a fan of a pack. Why are you not

2132
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:25,800
Speaker 28: a fan of you?

2133
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:26,920
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm not a fan of a pack.

2134
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 28: For the reason that I'm just about to give actually,

2135
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:31,520
Speaker 28: which is that a a pack exists, their raison to etra,

2136
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 28: Their entire purpose for existing is to secure large scale

2137
01:55:35,640 --> 01:55:39,640
Speaker 28: annual appropriations, currently about three point eight billion dollars annually.

2138
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Speaker 14: In US aid to Israel.

2139
01:55:40,640 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 28: I'm not a big I'm not a particularly big fan

2140
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 28: of foreign aid in general, and I've been arguing for

2141
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 28: literally a decade that the US should wind down foreign

2142
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Speaker 28: aid to Israel in particular. I think it actually is

2143
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 28: a bad idea for both countries.

2144
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Speaker 13: Do we have agreement on that.

2145
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you want to wind it down to zero tomorrow,

2146
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 7: we have agreement on that at tomorrow. Yes, i'd support.

2147
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 13: Well, so we have an agreement on an end point.

2148
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 28: Yes, sure, Okay, keep going, job, Yeah, so you obviously.

2149
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, are you guys a good people? They just cheered

2150
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 7: for agreement.

2151
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,080
Speaker 13: I like to say, that's the point. We're not here

2152
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 13: just the hurl insults. Yeah, you could do that online.

2153
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 27: This is here to actually have some sort of we're

2154
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 27: a nation, these are our fellow citizens.

2155
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 13: We got to figure this stuff out. Josh, keep going.

2156
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2157
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 28: So you obviously can't do it tomorrow because that would

2158
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 28: be to betray an ally in the middle of a

2159
01:56:25,480 --> 01:56:29,160
Speaker 28: hot war. That would send a terrible signal to other allies, Saudi's, mriaties,

2160
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Speaker 28: you name it. So you can't do it tomorrow. But

2161
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,360
Speaker 28: I do agree that you should have a game plan five, ten,

2162
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 28: twenty years, whatever it is.

2163
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 14: I don't really care.

2164
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 28: Honestly, get a game plan in place to phase out

2165
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Speaker 28: this AID. It's not good for the United States, it's

2166
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:43,560
Speaker 28: crony capitalism, Eisenhower Defense Industrial complex, bowing north of Grumman.

2167
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Speaker 28: All of that is totally true. And then from Israel's perpective,

2168
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Speaker 28: it's also bad for them too, because it makes them

2169
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 28: overly reliant. It actually ends up undermining the entire notion

2170
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Speaker 28: of Zionism. The notion of the Jews should control their

2171
01:56:54,160 --> 01:56:56,680
Speaker 28: own right to their own existence and their own homeland

2172
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 28: undermines Zionism in the long run self. So it's actually

2173
01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 28: bad for both countries. But Charlie, this notion that APAK

2174
01:57:02,400 --> 01:57:05,200
Speaker 28: is this big powerful lobby can be dispelled with literally

2175
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 28: one anecdote. And I only need one anecdote to dispel

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Speaker 28: this off repeeda notion, which is the entire twenty fourteen

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Speaker 28: to twenty fifteen Barack Obama are on nuclear debates. The

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Speaker 28: fact that the jcpoa Barack Obama's Joint Comprehensive Plan of

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Speaker 28: Action nucledeal pass is literally the singular data point that

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Speaker 28: disproves the entire alleged existence of the nefarious Israel lobby

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Speaker 28: that controls all politicians there. They failed epically to get

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Speaker 28: that pass. But I do have a question, Charlie for

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Speaker 28: a Dave there, which is I will translate it, okay, Well, Charlie,

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Speaker 28: I would be very very curious based on Dave's recent

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Speaker 28: tweets about Donald Trump doing xyz things, whether it's covering

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Speaker 28: up for a pedophile Rann or engaging in foreign wars

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Speaker 28: all on behest of a foreign power. Does Dave actually

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Speaker 28: think that Donald Trump, Jdvans, the entire Trump minstration are

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Speaker 28: literally bought off by the Jews?

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Speaker 14: Is that actually your honestans?

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Speaker 13: Okay, so what Josh is asking.

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Speaker 17: Well, yeah, well it's always look all of this, I mean,

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Speaker 17: but I'm sorry, but just like everything you just said,

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Speaker 17: like all of it, I just find to be like

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Speaker 17: the cheapest debate tactics. First off, I never said anyone's

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Speaker 17: bought off by the Jews. We're both Jewish, and that's

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Speaker 17: a dirty little trick you play when I'm talking Jewish guy,

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Speaker 17: I'm talking about a foreign Yeah, I'm talking about a

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Speaker 17: foreign government. And then you kind of imply and no, again,

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Speaker 17: this is all just straw man. It's this whole thing

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Speaker 17: of like Dave saying, APAK is this big, bad monster

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Speaker 17: that controls everything.

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Speaker 7: Therefore, if I have one data point.

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Speaker 17: Of where a policy that APAC didn't want gets through,

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Speaker 17: that disproves the whole narrative. And then this distraction with

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Speaker 17: talking about the Armenian lobby or it's like, yeah, well,

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Speaker 17: if we were having a discussion about that, maybe that

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Speaker 17: would come up. But we're talking about this. And to

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Speaker 17: compare APAK to the NRA, who, by the way, are

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Speaker 17: kind of sellouts and don't go nearly far enough.

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Speaker 7: But like, I'm a hardcore gun rights guy.

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Speaker 8: Got more a green.

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Speaker 13: We love our guns, don't we? Everybody?

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Speaker 17: Right, Yeah, now you know the NRA guys who always

2215
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Speaker 17: go the key is to enforce existing gun laws. No,

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Speaker 17: the key is to repeal every last one of the

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Speaker 17: existing God there.

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Speaker 7: Should be one law, one law, the Second Amendment. That's

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Speaker 7: the law.

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Speaker 17: Okay, but all that, No, it is totally different to

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Speaker 17: have a group of Americans advocating on it for a

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Speaker 17: constitutionally protected natural right for American citizens than to have

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Speaker 17: a group of Americans advocating for a foreign government in

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Speaker 17: conjunction with that foreign government.

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Speaker 7: That's a different thing. And to even let.

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Speaker 17: Me finish, Josh, and to even compare them is ridiculous.

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Speaker 17: And listen, by the way, I'll just say this, every

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Speaker 17: single person in this room, you have to hate APAC.

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Speaker 7: You don't even have a choice. You're here at turning

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Speaker 7: Point USA.

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Speaker 17: A pack contributes millions of dollars to woke progressive Democrats

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Speaker 17: if they support Israel. In other words, it's okay to

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Speaker 17: destroy our country as long as that helps Israel. So

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Speaker 17: I'm sorry, I don't know. Turning point USA real, this

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Speaker 17: is my first time here. Quick question, are we allowed

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Speaker 17: to support groups that contribute millions of dollars to woke

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Speaker 17: progressive Democrats?

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Speaker 7: Because I thought the answer was.

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Speaker 27: No, So Josh, and then, Dave, I'm gonna have a

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Speaker 27: tough followup for you. So take a drink of water. Josh,

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Speaker 27: what would you say to that?

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Speaker 13: Because look, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 27: Some people would would ask the question, Okay, does APAC

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Speaker 27: have more power than like your traditional like Armenian lobby,

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Speaker 27: and more broadly, let's just take it more broadly, like

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Speaker 27: is there any concern that or how would you address

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Speaker 27: the concern? Let me put it this way, how would

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Speaker 27: you address the concern that some people have that a

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Speaker 27: foreign government tends to have an outsized amount of platform

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Speaker 27: in the US government? Charlie, I think that there are tens,

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Speaker 27: if not hundreds of millions of Americans who care a

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Speaker 27: lot about US relations with the State of Israel for

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Speaker 27: understandable reasons.

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Speaker 14: This literally goes back by the way.

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Speaker 28: Those of you who are familiar with American history, this

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Speaker 28: literally goes back to the American Founding. The American founders

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Speaker 28: were extremely, extremely eloquent and outspoken about this, from George

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Speaker 28: Washington to John Adams to Hamilton to Abraham Lincoln's famous

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Speaker 28: February eighteen sixty one speech referring to Americans as an

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Speaker 28: almost chosen people. They quoted the Hebrew Bible over and

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Speaker 28: over and over again. They understood that the Christianity upon

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Speaker 28: which America is predicated is not exclusively but has a

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Speaker 28: lot of Old Testament Hebrew Bible emphasis therein, and that's

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Speaker 28: been part of our constitution, part of our legal code,

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Speaker 28: part of our moral code.

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Speaker 14: Since day one.

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Speaker 28: So it is completely reasonable for people in the year

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Speaker 28: twenty twenty five to look at that, to look at

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Speaker 28: all the other things we talked about when it comes

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Speaker 28: to deterring Islamism Andstryia supremacism, when it comes to trying

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Speaker 28: to achieve this Abraham Accord style nationalist realist foreign policy,

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Speaker 28: when it comes to deterring the Iranian regime and their

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Speaker 28: various propheies. It's a very very under standbal for American citizens, again, Americans,

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Speaker 28: to look at that and to conclude that we have

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Speaker 28: important reasons for aline with Israel. They are not doing

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Speaker 28: so on behalf of a foreign government. This framing is absurd.

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Speaker 28: It's utterly absurd. They are doing so because they are

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Speaker 28: patriotic Americans and they feel it is their subjective sense

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Speaker 28: that as patriotic Americans that this alliance is Furthered.

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Speaker 27: And they are US passport holders. Some people think that

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Speaker 27: they're strictly foreign nationals.

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Speaker 8: Is that correct?

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Speaker 28: Yes, and that's just simply just not true. Now again,

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Speaker 28: I say that, by the way, someone who's been very

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Speaker 28: critical of APACT, But it's just simply not true.

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Speaker 27: We're using that as a filler term. So now, Dave,

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Speaker 27: for you two quick ones. Do you think that the

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Speaker 27: Council for American Islamic Relations should register as a foreign agent.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I don't think there should be any, like any

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Speaker 17: groups advocating on.

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Speaker 5: Behalf of farm.

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Speaker 27: Secondly, though, and Josh did not say this, but he

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Speaker 27: laced it in through.

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Speaker 13: One of the salvos.

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Speaker 27: That was he said, you know, Dave, you're accusing them

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Speaker 27: of being bought by the Jews. Now, Dave, there is

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Speaker 27: a rise of I just think some disgusting stuff online

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Speaker 27: I'm not blaming you for this. I'm not one of

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Speaker 27: those people, right, But what do you have to say

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Speaker 27: that there's this like dark jew hate out there and

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Speaker 27: you see it and I see I hate it.

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Speaker 13: It's not good.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, and everyone in this audience, guys, don't get yourself

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Speaker 27: involved in that. I'm telling you, well, rot your brain.

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Speaker 27: It's bad for your soul. It's bad, it's evil. I

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Speaker 27: think it's demonic. And so Dave, though, how do you

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Speaker 27: navigate being critical of a foreign government while also, like

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Speaker 27: some people say, well, your fans hate you, You're not

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Speaker 27: responsible your fans.

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Speaker 13: That is dumb, That is terrible. I don't believe that.

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Speaker 27: At the same time, though, Dave, you have a big

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Speaker 27: responsibility on your shoulders, right, because you're saying something that

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Speaker 27: is heterodox, not in popular opinion, that some people are

2314
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Speaker 27: trying to use to push a much more sinister agenda.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Well, I think there's a lot of truth to that,

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Speaker 17: and I think that the fact is that the policy

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Speaker 17: is that America, the US government is pursuing, are almost

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Speaker 17: guaranteed to create this. And look, I think there's a

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Speaker 17: lot of factors here. I don't have nearly enough time

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Speaker 17: to kind of give all of my thoughts on this,

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Speaker 17: but I think as you as you young people know, right,

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Speaker 17: even though kind of over the last year with Trump's victory,

2324
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 17: like wokeism has been receding, at least to some degree,

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Speaker 17: it really can't be overstated how much every institution in

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Speaker 17: American life bought into racialism over.

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Speaker 7: The last fifteen years.

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Speaker 17: And it's like these young kids came up in an

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Speaker 17: environment where that was just considered normal, Like you judge

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Speaker 17: people by their race and make racialist arguments, and yes,

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Speaker 17: now that has also been embraced by some people on

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Speaker 17: the right. I will say that I think what I

2333
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Speaker 17: think the best thing to always do in these situations

2334
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Speaker 17: is tell the truth, try to be a good person,

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Speaker 17: try to deliver your message in the most compelling way,

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Speaker 17: and let the chips fall where they may. But I

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Speaker 17: do think that the level of Israeli control over our

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Speaker 17: politics is frankly pretty undeniable, as much as people try

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Speaker 17: to look. Just think one example, right of this, so

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump. You remember at the end of the Twelve

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Speaker 17: Day War, when Donald Trump starts pushing for a ceasefire,

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Speaker 17: and then what does Israel do? They come in and

2343
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Speaker 17: start bombing regime targets, not nuclear sites.

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Speaker 7: They come in and start buy.

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Speaker 17: And then Donald Trump was furious with Netanyah who obviously

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Speaker 17: he had his most angry moment toward Netanyah who when

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Speaker 17: he said, they both don't know what the f they're doing.

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Speaker 13: I kind of love that moment. Yeah, I love.

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Speaker 7: That moment too.

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Speaker 17: But then the next day he's right back to just

2351
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Speaker 17: advocating that they drop the charges against Netanyah, who He's

2352
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Speaker 17: still going to continue funding Netanyah, who unconditionally, did you

2353
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Speaker 17: know anyone else Donald Trump would have come up with

2354
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Speaker 17: a nickname for him already and just been smashing them

2355
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Speaker 17: all over the place. He was trying to lureer America

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Speaker 17: into a war that Donald Trump didn't want to get into.

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Speaker 28: But then you said, still get to it, because he

2358
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Speaker 28: literally chose to get involved. Like that was Donald Trump's decision, right,

2359
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Speaker 28: but decision had a backup, right.

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Speaker 17: But it was also his decision to push for a

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Speaker 17: ceasefire and to try to the thing.

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Speaker 28: And Israel agreed immediately.

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Speaker 7: No, no, they bombed the crap out of him immediately.

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Speaker 28: That's what Trump was same a question, I want to

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Speaker 28: phase out USA.

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Speaker 14: It's Israel, Okay.

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Speaker 28: I established that allegedly primary nation. Yah who is now

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Speaker 28: getting on board with that as well, certainly a lot

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Speaker 28: of people in his coalition.

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Speaker 7: To I'll believe that When I say that.

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Speaker 28: Well, he's basically said that, so you should believe it.

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Speaker 27: But what the politicians saying, Josh, you should believe Josh

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Speaker 27: finish his question.

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Speaker 28: If the if the Israeli governments were to agree that

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Speaker 28: is the best policy, and if the United States were

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Speaker 28: to do that, then what in God's name is your

2377
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Speaker 28: actual problem?

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Speaker 17: Well, I'm sorry, So if America was not propping up

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Speaker 17: Israel and America was not.

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Speaker 28: Wind down the foreign aid, then what is your issue?

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Speaker 17: Well, there's other military intervention obviously, so I'm not sure

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Speaker 17: I follow. I'd be very happy to wind down the

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Speaker 17: foreign aid, but other than that, what is my Listen?

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Speaker 7: I'm a non interventionist, so I'm not saying America.

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Speaker 17: Should get involved, but no, I mean, I do think objectively,

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Speaker 17: what Israel's doing to Gaza is horrible. I think, and

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Speaker 17: I want to talk about God, I couldn't do it

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Speaker 17: without us. Make that case they were, I would still

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Speaker 17: be Again, we have.

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Speaker 27: To go fast because people have flights and stuff. But

2391
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Speaker 27: I want to get to this right, and we still

2392
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 27: haven't gotten to the final conclusion.

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Speaker 13: So let's talk Gaza.

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Speaker 27: Because first I want to go Josh on October seventh,

2395
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Speaker 27: because I want you to remind people what happened on

2396
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Speaker 27: October seventh. And Dave, I'll be honest, I think your

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02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:16,520
Speaker 27: portion of the debate, your portion of your your community

2398
02:07:16,520 --> 02:07:18,320
Speaker 27: could do a better job of remembering the horror on

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02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:20,520
Speaker 27: October seven. I'm just gonna be honest. That's my I'm

2400
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:22,839
Speaker 27: not putting that on you. I'm saying just your community.

2401
02:07:22,880 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 27: I want you, but I'm gonna have that's just me.

2402
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:26,600
Speaker 27: I want you just to think because I think we

2403
02:07:26,680 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 27: kind of forget because there was something unique and terrible. Josh,

2404
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:30,960
Speaker 27: want me to talk about that, And then I want

2405
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:32,880
Speaker 27: you to make the best case you can because every

2406
02:07:32,920 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 27: human beings made in the image of God.

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Speaker 28: I don't like seeing dead kids anywhere. I don't like

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02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:37,200
Speaker 28: seeing dead kids in Gaza.

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02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:37,800
Speaker 14: I don't like it.

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Speaker 27: So we we we're Christians here. So Josh, I want

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02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 27: you to kind of walk us through the series events

2412
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:45,000
Speaker 27: because it can't be lost in us. Talk about Gaza,

2413
02:07:45,040 --> 02:07:47,480
Speaker 27: talk about the horror of October seventh. Then Dave, I

2414
02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 27: want you to talk about your criticism about Gaza, and

2415
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Speaker 27: then I'm gonna ask you a follow up, Dave, about

2416
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:52,760
Speaker 27: something that happened from the Joe Rogan show.

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Speaker 28: Josh you first, I'm just curious, has anyone just put

2418
02:07:56,840 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 28: your hand up and make some noise? Have you been

2419
02:07:59,080 --> 02:08:01,560
Speaker 28: any of you too? Parts of Israel that were slaughtered

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02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:06,000
Speaker 28: by Hamas anyway are a few people, Okay, so I

2421
02:08:06,120 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 28: was also there a few months after it happened. If

2422
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 28: you haven't been there, it's very difficult to describe.

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Speaker 14: What you see.

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Speaker 28: You see these keyboot see in these small villages. By

2425
02:08:15,760 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 28: the way, these were typically left wingers.

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02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 14: These are peace necks.

2427
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:21,400
Speaker 28: That were establishing their villages on the border to try

2428
02:08:21,480 --> 02:08:24,440
Speaker 28: to engage in pen pal diplomacy, if you will, with

2429
02:08:24,680 --> 02:08:26,640
Speaker 28: the Arabs of Gaza. These are very kind of left

2430
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:31,320
Speaker 28: wing pieacenic people. And you see just kitchen wear throughout

2431
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:36,080
Speaker 28: the streets, teddy bears everywhere, blood stained walls, bullet holes

2432
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:36,560
Speaker 28: as far.

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Speaker 14: As the eye can see. It's very difficult to describe.

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02:08:40,000 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 28: The only time that I had that similar feeling walking

2435
02:08:42,080 --> 02:08:44,640
Speaker 28: around places like Kafaraza was when I was in Trablinka,

2436
02:08:44,640 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 28: the Nazi concentration clan camp itself. So look in total,

2437
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 28: and there's a brand new report talking about the extent

2438
02:08:50,200 --> 02:08:53,200
Speaker 28: of the mass raping and sexual violence that Hamas committed

2439
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:57,440
Speaker 28: on October seventh. Combined, you're looking at roughly twelve hundred

2440
02:08:57,480 --> 02:09:01,280
Speaker 28: people slaughtered. By the way, not all is reals. Dozens

2441
02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:04,320
Speaker 28: of Americans were either murdered or taken hostage in Gaza

2442
02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 28: as well. In total, something like forty to fifty different

2443
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 28: nationalities were represented of those who were slaughtered on October seventh.

2444
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Speaker 14: In fact, just looking.

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Speaker 28: At it from a very strictly narrowly American perspective, October

2446
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:18,440
Speaker 28: seventh the mounted on its own terms to the largest

2447
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 28: American only hostage crisis since Tehran in nineteen seventy nine,

2448
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Speaker 28: because of all the American citizens who were then taken

2449
02:09:25,560 --> 02:09:28,600
Speaker 28: hostage into God. So it was an unspeakable atrocity. We

2450
02:09:28,640 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 28: don't really have all the answers to this day as

2451
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:33,120
Speaker 28: to how it happened. Perhaps we never will. I certainly

2452
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:35,560
Speaker 28: hope to get some clarity at some point there. But

2453
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Speaker 28: it was the single deadliest day for the Jewish people

2454
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 28: since World War Two, And given Israel's small size, it's

2455
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:44,400
Speaker 28: roughly the equivalent of forty five to fifty nine to

2456
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:48,720
Speaker 28: elevens if you can possibly contextualize them. So that was

2457
02:09:48,760 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 28: what precipitated this war, and it was a war that

2458
02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:54,800
Speaker 28: Israel Charlie did not want. As you know hamastak Over

2459
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:57,400
Speaker 28: in two thousand and seven, Israel repeatedly, time and time

2460
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:00,520
Speaker 28: again decided not to try to topple Hamad under the

2461
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:04,000
Speaker 28: idea that you could potentially have an even worse alternative,

2462
02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 28: better to deal with the devil that you know, and

2463
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:09,880
Speaker 28: so forth there October seventh, I think extremely reasonably, given

2464
02:10:09,880 --> 02:10:13,440
Speaker 28: the sheer level of carnage and terror and just just

2465
02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:17,760
Speaker 28: outright satanic, demonic evil that happened, they quite recently concluded

2466
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:20,480
Speaker 28: that policy simply had to end. And what's happened in

2467
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:22,440
Speaker 28: Gaza for the past year and a half, almost two

2468
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:24,480
Speaker 28: years now has been a protracted war and one of

2469
02:10:24,520 --> 02:10:27,800
Speaker 28: the most condensed urban environments in the world. It is

2470
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Speaker 28: very very, very very difficult war fighting conditions. I would

2471
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Speaker 28: like to remind you just of at least one or

2472
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:37,440
Speaker 28: two very simple facts. One is that let's not forget

2473
02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:40,400
Speaker 28: that Hamas, who Israel is a war against in Gaza,

2474
02:10:40,560 --> 02:10:43,920
Speaker 28: is a US recognized foreign terrorist organization. They are indistinguishable

2475
02:10:44,040 --> 02:10:47,360
Speaker 28: in that respect from al Qaeda, or ISIS or any

2476
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:49,640
Speaker 28: of these other foreign terrorist organizations. They are in a

2477
02:10:49,800 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 28: rabid Jihadis network that, like all these other Jihadis and

2478
02:10:52,960 --> 02:10:56,440
Speaker 28: Sera supremacists, also wants to kill not merely Jews, but

2479
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,040
Speaker 28: Christians in all infidels. They say that very clearly in

2480
02:10:59,080 --> 02:11:01,880
Speaker 28: the nineteen eighty seven Founding Charter. That is point number one,

2481
02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:04,280
Speaker 28: point number two. Charlie, you mentioned that this is a

2482
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:06,800
Speaker 28: very Christian audience. I am Jewish, we happen to share

2483
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 28: most of the Bible, and I am a firm believer

2484
02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:11,600
Speaker 28: in Genesis one twenty seven that we are all made

2485
02:11:11,640 --> 02:11:14,160
Speaker 28: in God's image. That is one of my foundational beliefs

2486
02:11:14,160 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 28: in everything I.

2487
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:15,840
Speaker 14: Write about this.

2488
02:11:17,080 --> 02:11:19,920
Speaker 28: I write about this at great length in my book

2489
02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:22,840
Speaker 28: Israel and Civilization. To me, that's a single foundational ethical

2490
02:11:22,880 --> 02:11:25,680
Speaker 28: imperative of all of Western civilization and informs my pro

2491
02:11:25,720 --> 02:11:28,320
Speaker 28: life views and so much else. So I, like you,

2492
02:11:28,360 --> 02:11:31,400
Speaker 28: and like so many others, also weep whenever innocent people

2493
02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 28: are dead. There are two points to make it. I'll

2494
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 28: make them very briefly, because I know some sense of

2495
02:11:34,840 --> 02:11:38,920
Speaker 28: the time. One is that we know because we actually

2496
02:11:38,920 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 28: have people like John Spencer, the head of Urban Warfare

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02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:43,240
Speaker 28: studies at West Points, who have actually been able to

2498
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Speaker 28: crunch numbers. We know that when you actually look at

2499
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Speaker 28: the civilian to combat in death ratios in Gaza, it

2500
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Speaker 28: is the most humane civilian to combat in death ratio

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Speaker 28: in the entire history of urban warfare. John Spencer was there,

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02:11:57,240 --> 02:12:00,000
Speaker 28: by the way, in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen in Fallujah

2503
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Speaker 28: a rock during the Trump led ISIS counter insurgency, the

2504
02:12:03,080 --> 02:12:05,680
Speaker 28: United States Army, God blessed them, did not even do

2505
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:07,760
Speaker 28: quite as well as the IDEAF in terms of civilian

2506
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Speaker 28: to combine into death ratio. According to John Spencer of

2507
02:12:10,680 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 28: West Point. Point number two, which is a very simple

2508
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:14,720
Speaker 28: point that Dave Smith and his friends always like to

2509
02:12:14,720 --> 02:12:17,120
Speaker 28: look over, is that when you're just trying to ascribe

2510
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:21,200
Speaker 28: moral culpability to every single tragic death in Gaza. Charlie,

2511
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Speaker 28: you made this point so well in your recent debates

2512
02:12:23,640 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 28: over in England against these high fluid and British FOEX

2513
02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:28,600
Speaker 28: intellectuals at Cambridge and Oxford when you said that the

2514
02:12:28,680 --> 02:12:31,680
Speaker 28: moral culpability comes to people who are using human shields.

2515
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:34,360
Speaker 14: That is just how it works. That is the law war.

2516
02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:36,560
Speaker 28: That is the law of combat. That is just basic

2517
02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:38,760
Speaker 28: morality and logic one oh one. So that is essentially

2518
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:40,400
Speaker 28: how I see gossip. I know Dave has plenty to

2519
02:12:40,440 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 28: say in response to that. So Dave, take two minutes

2520
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:44,160
Speaker 28: and then I have a crisp follow up.

2521
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, jeez, there's a lot there.

2522
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Speaker 17: First of all, look, if you support what Israel's doing

2523
02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:54,800
Speaker 17: in Gaza right now, I would just like my advice

2524
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 17: to you guys is just know that you never have

2525
02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:59,080
Speaker 17: a leg to stand on claiming to be pro life

2526
02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:01,880
Speaker 17: for the rest of your life, just saying that the view.

2527
02:13:02,720 --> 02:13:03,800
Speaker 7: Oh it's so, it's.

2528
02:13:03,640 --> 02:13:07,160
Speaker 17: Okay to support let's not boo our speakers policy that

2529
02:13:07,240 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 17: is killing babies all of a sudden, killing babies is negotiable.

2530
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:12,200
Speaker 7: All right, fine, I'm just coming the room.

2531
02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:14,240
Speaker 13: So Dave don't know, I'm not talking about that. Hold

2532
02:13:14,240 --> 02:13:17,000
Speaker 13: on shields back up, Dave.

2533
02:13:17,120 --> 02:13:18,760
Speaker 7: Why don't just let you go on this whole long.

2534
02:13:18,840 --> 02:13:20,440
Speaker 13: I know I'm gonna actually help you out here, Dave.

2535
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:23,320
Speaker 27: Okay, what I'm doing I want you to tell the

2536
02:13:23,400 --> 02:13:25,760
Speaker 27: audience what's going on in Gaza, because some people in

2537
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:27,120
Speaker 27: the audience don't know what's going on.

2538
02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:29,840
Speaker 13: So I assume they know and don't. Let's not get back.

2539
02:13:29,840 --> 02:13:30,680
Speaker 7: Okay, well I did.

2540
02:13:30,720 --> 02:13:32,480
Speaker 17: I did assume that most people know that lots of

2541
02:13:32,480 --> 02:13:34,400
Speaker 17: babies are being killed in Gaza.

2542
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:35,640
Speaker 7: But maybe I shouldn't assume that.

2543
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:36,000
Speaker 8: Don't.

2544
02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:39,360
Speaker 13: Well, don't be sarcastic about it, Dave. Instead, I mean this.

2545
02:13:39,480 --> 02:13:40,320
Speaker 7: No, I meant that utterly.

2546
02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:42,160
Speaker 13: I did a SA loop where they're on social media

2547
02:13:42,160 --> 02:13:42,520
Speaker 13: all the time.

2548
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:45,720
Speaker 27: Okay, so walk through numbers, walk through what animates you

2549
02:13:45,800 --> 02:13:46,760
Speaker 27: to say something like that.

2550
02:13:46,840 --> 02:13:48,560
Speaker 17: Well, okay, well let me respond to a few of

2551
02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:50,000
Speaker 17: the things that that Josh claimed.

2552
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:50,720
Speaker 7: I mean, if you want to go.

2553
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:52,840
Speaker 17: There was just a major report a couple of weeks

2554
02:13:52,840 --> 02:13:55,680
Speaker 17: ago in Heratz, the Israeli newspaper, where they had a

2555
02:13:55,680 --> 02:13:57,880
Speaker 17: bunch of IDF soldiers. They actually had one who went

2556
02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:01,320
Speaker 17: on record who was saying that they were ordered to

2557
02:14:01,440 --> 02:14:04,879
Speaker 17: shoot at crowds of people who were going into our deadline.

2558
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:07,200
Speaker 13: We left felf not the way Gosh, I let you talk.

2559
02:14:07,280 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 13: Let's please let.

2560
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:10,000
Speaker 17: Dave make this case well as the IDF soldier who

2561
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:12,920
Speaker 17: went on the record also film probably Okay, all right,

2562
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:15,720
Speaker 17: there you go, so there see you're whatever. That's when

2563
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:18,800
Speaker 17: you'll criticize the idea look, Josh is just lying when

2564
02:14:18,840 --> 02:14:21,880
Speaker 17: he says that Israel supported Hamas for all those years

2565
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:24,680
Speaker 17: because they feared there might be a worse alternative. It's

2566
02:14:24,800 --> 02:14:27,280
Speaker 17: just not true. And this has been so widely reported.

2567
02:14:27,320 --> 02:14:29,200
Speaker 17: You don't have to rely on Horetz. You can rely

2568
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:31,160
Speaker 17: on all types of reporting, or you can just look

2569
02:14:31,160 --> 02:14:33,200
Speaker 17: at all of the leaders in their own words, what

2570
02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:35,640
Speaker 17: they said. They chose net Yahu, and this was very

2571
02:14:35,640 --> 02:14:37,880
Speaker 17: controversial in Israel. There were lots of critics of this.

2572
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:41,280
Speaker 17: Netanyahu thought he had this brilliant idea, which is that

2573
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:42,120
Speaker 17: he would.

2574
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:44,480
Speaker 7: Prop up Hamas and keep them in power.

2575
02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:47,560
Speaker 17: His exact quote was, we can control the height of

2576
02:14:47,600 --> 02:14:50,600
Speaker 17: the flame. So he was that we'll keep these terrorists

2577
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:53,760
Speaker 17: in power, and that way we can tell the entire

2578
02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:56,880
Speaker 17: international community that, look, we have no partner for peace,

2579
02:14:56,960 --> 02:14:58,680
Speaker 17: we have no one to deal with here, and that

2580
02:14:58,720 --> 02:15:00,920
Speaker 17: way we never have to negotiate with the Palestinians.

2581
02:15:01,080 --> 02:15:02,160
Speaker 7: This was the game that.

2582
02:15:02,120 --> 02:15:04,760
Speaker 17: He played, and it blew up in his face and

2583
02:15:04,840 --> 02:15:07,839
Speaker 17: really blew up in the Israeli people's face on October seventh.

2584
02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:11,440
Speaker 17: And I've never downplayed October seventh, I know, but I'm

2585
02:15:11,480 --> 02:15:15,280
Speaker 17: just making the point that I never have happened totally, Kay,

2586
02:15:15,720 --> 02:15:16,120
Speaker 17: it doesn't.

2587
02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 7: You don't have to downplay any of that.

2588
02:15:18,040 --> 02:15:21,000
Speaker 17: And in fact, I've criticized many other critics of Israel

2589
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:25,080
Speaker 17: who have downplayed that it was a horrible day, awful

2590
02:15:25,240 --> 02:15:28,920
Speaker 17: atrocious acts were committed by Hamas terrorists. But at the

2591
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:32,720
Speaker 17: same time, Benjamin Netanya, who was propping those guys up.

2592
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:36,280
Speaker 17: In fact, according to the Israeli former Defense secretary, he

2593
02:15:36,440 --> 02:15:41,160
Speaker 17: sent the head of the massade to Qatar to quote.

2594
02:15:41,160 --> 02:15:43,920
Speaker 7: Beg them to continue shipping the money.

2595
02:15:43,920 --> 02:15:47,400
Speaker 17: And all the meanwhile, they had a blockade around Gaza.

2596
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:49,240
Speaker 7: They wouldn't let sugar.

2597
02:15:48,920 --> 02:15:51,920
Speaker 17: They wouldn't let potatoes in because they claim that's dual use,

2598
02:15:52,240 --> 02:15:55,400
Speaker 17: that could be used to build rockets, so the kids

2599
02:15:55,440 --> 02:16:00,080
Speaker 17: can't get, you know, food, Yet hundreds of millions of

2600
02:16:00,120 --> 02:16:04,040
Speaker 17: dollars in cash directly to Hamas. I guess money doesn't

2601
02:16:04,040 --> 02:16:07,520
Speaker 17: have a dual use. So you know, the whole mission

2602
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:09,839
Speaker 17: of this, of this what you can't even.

2603
02:16:09,680 --> 02:16:11,840
Speaker 7: Really call a war because it's not a war.

2604
02:16:12,280 --> 02:16:15,160
Speaker 17: It's the destruction of a captive people gods has been

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Speaker 17: occupied since nineteen sixty seven by the Israelis, and they're

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02:16:18,760 --> 02:16:22,960
Speaker 17: now just slaughtering the people. They are under that's effect,

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02:16:23,160 --> 02:16:26,840
Speaker 17: and it's under the supposed goal that they want to

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Speaker 17: eliminate Hamas and they want to retrieve the hostages, and

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02:16:31,360 --> 02:16:36,000
Speaker 17: yet they've Hamas is not being eliminated, they claim the

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Speaker 17: Israeli government is claiming that they've killed twenty thousand of

2611
02:16:38,800 --> 02:16:41,160
Speaker 17: their fighters, and yet there's still as many as there

2612
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Speaker 17: were beginning.

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Speaker 27: Let me ask you the follow up that I wish

2614
02:16:44,760 --> 02:16:46,200
Speaker 27: that I had an answer to when you were on

2615
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:48,280
Speaker 27: the Joe Rogan Show, But that thing decended into a mess,

2616
02:16:48,360 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 27: right it was madness. So I'm going to try to

2617
02:16:50,400 --> 02:16:52,600
Speaker 27: do it here. This was the best point that I

2618
02:16:52,640 --> 02:16:56,040
Speaker 27: think that you that whatever reason, it wasn't answered, How

2619
02:16:56,080 --> 02:16:58,680
Speaker 27: then should Israel have responded to October seven?

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Speaker 13: Be specific?

2621
02:17:00,680 --> 02:17:02,280
Speaker 27: I know you might say, well, don't kill kids, but

2622
02:17:02,280 --> 02:17:05,080
Speaker 27: hold on, how would you say you would be okay

2623
02:17:05,120 --> 02:17:07,400
Speaker 27: for Israel to respond because it would be a defensive war.

2624
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:10,080
Speaker 27: At that time, thirteen hundred of their own kids and

2625
02:17:10,120 --> 02:17:13,480
Speaker 27: women were killed and raped. So please just answer, how

2626
02:17:13,560 --> 02:17:16,520
Speaker 27: then would you be okay with Israel responding to October seventh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Well, I certainly.

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02:17:17,959 --> 02:17:20,760
Speaker 17: Look, I'm not saying that Israel was going to respond

2629
02:17:20,840 --> 02:17:25,160
Speaker 17: with zero violence from after October seventh. But I think

2630
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Speaker 17: the important thing to remember here is that, first of all,

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02:17:28,840 --> 02:17:32,840
Speaker 17: for the entire history of israel existence, they've been dealing

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02:17:32,840 --> 02:17:35,800
Speaker 17: with this terrorism problem. I would argue that the Palestinians

2633
02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:38,199
Speaker 17: have been dealing with the terrorism problem from Israel as well,

2634
02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:41,560
Speaker 17: but this is and they've never until met and Yahoo,

2635
02:17:41,800 --> 02:17:43,680
Speaker 17: they never treated it as a problem.

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Speaker 7: For the regular old military.

2637
02:17:45,600 --> 02:17:49,119
Speaker 17: It was always targeted assassinations and special ops.

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Speaker 7: And look, the truth is this, This is the.

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02:17:51,080 --> 02:17:54,120
Speaker 17: Fact, right when you have been occupying a group of

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Speaker 17: people since nineteen sixty seven, Israel has completely controlled Gaza.

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Speaker 14: He withdrew and many years ago.

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Speaker 7: Yes, okay, And if.

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Speaker 17: You want to go back and look at this, you

2644
02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:07,160
Speaker 17: can read Sharon's top advisor in his own words, said

2645
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:09,520
Speaker 17: the disengagement.

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02:18:08,879 --> 02:18:10,360
Speaker 13: Was to put there running out of time.

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02:18:10,600 --> 02:18:12,720
Speaker 17: But I won't be able to go through all of this.

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02:18:12,760 --> 02:18:16,040
Speaker 17: But it's not true. Israel continued to occupy the whole time.

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02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:23,199
Speaker 17: And when people broke out, okay, So when people break

2650
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Speaker 17: out of Gaza and just start ran just slaughtering civilians

2651
02:18:26,800 --> 02:18:29,600
Speaker 17: in Israel, yes, it was a horrible day and the

2652
02:18:29,640 --> 02:18:32,360
Speaker 17: world feels for those civilians. But at the same time,

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02:18:32,600 --> 02:18:34,760
Speaker 17: you have to know if you're Israel that the way

2654
02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:37,320
Speaker 17: that you respond to this is going to be how

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Speaker 17: you're characterized in the international community. And so you would

2656
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Speaker 17: at least make some effort to not kill so many civilians.

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Speaker 17: You can't, dude, uh Smotrich. The finance minister was bragging

2658
02:18:50,320 --> 02:18:53,920
Speaker 17: for three months that not one ounce of grain would

2659
02:18:53,920 --> 02:19:00,320
Speaker 17: get into Gaza Hamasas all you interrupt every two seconds

2660
02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:03,240
Speaker 17: to Hamas has all the food they need. This is

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Speaker 17: a war on the civilian population. And then, as is

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Speaker 17: reported admitted by Idea. By the way, this is admitted

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02:19:09,720 --> 02:19:11,680
Speaker 17: by the Israeli government. You can say whatever you want

2664
02:19:11,680 --> 02:19:14,640
Speaker 17: about Heretz. They they denied that they gave the orders,

2665
02:19:14,680 --> 02:19:15,800
Speaker 17: but they admitted that it was the.

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Speaker 7: IDF who was shooting at those people.

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Speaker 17: Then after you deny the civilian's food for three months,

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02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:23,600
Speaker 17: then you start shooting at the people who are desperately

2669
02:19:23,680 --> 02:19:27,039
Speaker 17: trying to get some food for them and their kids. So, no, listen,

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Speaker 17: I'm sorry, and I guess I am partly rejecting the

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02:19:29,520 --> 02:19:31,760
Speaker 17: premise of your question. Well let me just say it

2672
02:19:31,800 --> 02:19:35,840
Speaker 17: like this, Charlie. If your if you're pro life and

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02:19:35,879 --> 02:19:36,440
Speaker 17: you say.

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02:19:36,240 --> 02:19:40,199
Speaker 28: I stupid argument, you should not buy Shut up, bro.

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02:19:40,280 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 17: It's not it's a stupid argument.

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02:19:43,760 --> 02:19:45,040
Speaker 7: You haven't heard the argument.

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02:19:45,120 --> 02:19:52,320
Speaker 17: What's the argument that's stupid?

2678
02:19:50,480 --> 02:19:54,560
Speaker 7: The artist? Hold on one second?

2679
02:19:54,800 --> 02:19:57,920
Speaker 17: People like the argument that you what's the argument that

2680
02:19:57,920 --> 02:19:58,240
Speaker 17: you called?

2681
02:19:58,280 --> 02:19:59,120
Speaker 13: Why don't you finish it?

2682
02:19:59,200 --> 02:19:59,520
Speaker 8: Josh?

2683
02:19:59,840 --> 02:20:00,520
Speaker 7: Even you know what it is?

2684
02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:02,800
Speaker 17: He interrupted me before I even said it.

2685
02:20:02,920 --> 02:20:04,199
Speaker 7: Okay, here's the argument.

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02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:08,760
Speaker 17: If your pro life, it's not incumbent on you to

2687
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:11,200
Speaker 17: have a plan for what the mother ought to do

2688
02:20:11,240 --> 02:20:13,360
Speaker 17: with the baby. Like you don't have to have a

2689
02:20:13,400 --> 02:20:16,720
Speaker 17: plan for daycare and college.

2690
02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:16,960
Speaker 7: Funds and all that.

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02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:19,040
Speaker 17: You just say, Hey, I think this option should be

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02:20:19,080 --> 02:20:21,039
Speaker 17: off the table. I don't think you have the right

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02:20:21,080 --> 02:20:22,800
Speaker 17: to murder the baby while it's inside of you.

2694
02:20:23,240 --> 02:20:25,800
Speaker 7: Likewise, I'm not saying I have to have the perfect plan.

2695
02:20:25,840 --> 02:20:27,520
Speaker 17: If we had more time, I could expand on what

2696
02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:29,959
Speaker 17: I think they should have done. But how about don't

2697
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:32,959
Speaker 17: deny one ounce of grain for three months and then

2698
02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:35,480
Speaker 17: shoot at the poor people who are trying to get food,

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02:20:35,600 --> 02:20:37,960
Speaker 17: Josh Haspot, take that option off the table?

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Speaker 7: Is that argument stupid? Josh?

2701
02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:40,840
Speaker 8: Dave?

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02:20:41,120 --> 02:20:41,800
Speaker 13: Okay, Bosh.

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02:20:41,959 --> 02:20:45,359
Speaker 28: The party in Gaza that is not pro life is Hamas.

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Speaker 7: Agree.

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02:20:46,440 --> 02:20:50,520
Speaker 28: Hamas is the gie hottest US recognized foreig entirest organization

2706
02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:53,160
Speaker 28: that in their founding charter. By the way, they were

2707
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Speaker 28: founded simply as the Palestinian Arab offshoot at the Muslim Brotherhood.

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02:20:56,320 --> 02:20:58,360
Speaker 17: We all agree Hamas is bad. Well, now I'm not

2709
02:20:58,360 --> 02:20:59,959
Speaker 17: gonna sit here while he interrupts me every.

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02:20:59,840 --> 02:21:04,000
Speaker 27: Time day, if respectful, you are criticizing him for interrupting,

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02:21:04,120 --> 02:21:07,960
Speaker 27: So don't do that. So just let's let's have an

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Speaker 27: uninterrupted marit.

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Speaker 14: Just thank you, okay.

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Speaker 28: Hamas calls in their founding charter for the death not

2715
02:21:15,240 --> 02:21:17,760
Speaker 28: merely the US, really not merely every Jew, but of

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02:21:17,800 --> 02:21:21,400
Speaker 28: every Infidel, which they identify as not merely all Christians

2717
02:21:21,560 --> 02:21:25,240
Speaker 28: but also all Muslims don't subscribe to their idiosyncratic form

2718
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Speaker 28: of Sunni Shuria supremacism.

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02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:29,680
Speaker 14: So the the group in Hamas, the group.

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Speaker 28: In Gaza that is not pro life is Hamas, and

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02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:35,800
Speaker 28: Hamas has the unequivocal and I would argue sole moral

2722
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Speaker 28: culpability for the human shield induced deaths of all the women,

2723
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Speaker 28: civilians and babies when they are indiscriminately firing rockets, mortars

2724
02:21:44,720 --> 02:21:48,400
Speaker 28: and missiles from mosques, from the United Nations schools and on.

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02:21:48,600 --> 02:21:51,720
Speaker 28: That is where the blame goes the blame goes to Hamas.

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Speaker 28: Once upon a time, anyone with any decent functioning moral

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Speaker 28: compass or any knowledge of international law one on one

2728
02:21:57,959 --> 02:21:59,120
Speaker 28: would have been able to tell you that.

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02:21:59,200 --> 02:22:00,680
Speaker 14: So that that that is where this goes.

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02:22:00,720 --> 02:22:04,000
Speaker 17: But again it's just you pivot to blaming Hamas and

2731
02:22:04,040 --> 02:22:05,840
Speaker 17: they're the ones who aren't pro life. As if I

2732
02:22:05,959 --> 02:22:08,320
Speaker 17: was making the claim that Hamas is pro life, I'm

2733
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:11,640
Speaker 17: criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu for funding and propping up this.

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02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:13,080
Speaker 7: Horrific terrorist organization.

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02:22:13,320 --> 02:22:14,920
Speaker 17: But so how are you in one breath going to

2736
02:22:14,959 --> 02:22:17,360
Speaker 17: talk about how terrible they are and then completely remove

2737
02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:18,600
Speaker 17: culpability from the guy who.

2738
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Speaker 13: I am curious?

2739
02:22:20,360 --> 02:22:20,879
Speaker 7: Hip got it?

2740
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Speaker 27: I'm curious. I got to interrupt. What is your response

2741
02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:26,160
Speaker 27: to the human shield argument? It has been proven, it

2742
02:22:26,240 --> 02:22:29,959
Speaker 27: is legit. What is your response to a fact we

2743
02:22:29,959 --> 02:22:32,039
Speaker 27: don't know how widespread it's stump. I think it's rather

2744
02:22:32,280 --> 02:22:33,760
Speaker 27: that Hamas uses human shields.

2745
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:36,960
Speaker 17: Yeah, they certainly have at like, I'm not denying that,

2746
02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:39,400
Speaker 17: but at the same time, like it's kind of you know,

2747
02:22:39,440 --> 02:22:42,760
Speaker 17: if let's say, like in a domestic criminal situation, if

2748
02:22:42,760 --> 02:22:44,879
Speaker 17: there was somebody who killed a bunch of people and

2749
02:22:44,879 --> 02:22:47,320
Speaker 17: then they ran into a school and they're like using

2750
02:22:47,320 --> 02:22:49,680
Speaker 17: the kids as human shields. They're hiding behind the kids.

2751
02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:51,959
Speaker 17: And then your local police department came over and said,

2752
02:22:52,160 --> 02:22:55,120
Speaker 17: blow up the school and killed all the kids. You

2753
02:22:55,160 --> 02:22:58,080
Speaker 17: wouldn't go, well, they have no moral responsibility because they

2754
02:22:58,080 --> 02:23:01,040
Speaker 17: were using them as human shields. Yeah, as Bill bursaid

2755
02:23:01,080 --> 02:23:03,800
Speaker 17: in a special you gotta work around that, bro, and

2756
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:05,720
Speaker 17: like Hamas is terrible.

2757
02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:07,040
Speaker 7: Nobody's arguing with that.

2758
02:23:07,240 --> 02:23:10,199
Speaker 17: But that doesn't mean there's no responsibility for the people

2759
02:23:10,280 --> 02:23:11,240
Speaker 17: dropping the butt.

2760
02:23:11,280 --> 02:23:13,039
Speaker 7: And by the way, again, as you don't want.

2761
02:23:12,879 --> 02:23:14,600
Speaker 17: To talk about, how about when they're shooting at people

2762
02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:15,280
Speaker 17: trying to get aid.

2763
02:23:15,400 --> 02:23:17,320
Speaker 7: There were no human shields there. I do want to

2764
02:23:17,320 --> 02:23:18,879
Speaker 7: talk at a picture of Gaza.

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02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:23,080
Speaker 17: Human shields does not describe most of what's happened to Gaza. Yes,

2766
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:25,320
Speaker 17: there are certain air instances.

2767
02:23:25,400 --> 02:23:27,240
Speaker 7: And by the way, Israel also has.

2768
02:23:27,160 --> 02:23:30,640
Speaker 17: A bunch of military targets in civilian areas. Like I'm

2769
02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:33,800
Speaker 17: just saying, that doesn't actually mean it's okay to just

2770
02:23:34,040 --> 02:23:36,360
Speaker 17: now you have a moral get out of jail free

2771
02:23:36,400 --> 02:23:38,800
Speaker 17: card to do whatever you want to the poor innocent

2772
02:23:38,879 --> 02:23:42,120
Speaker 17: people who, as you pointed out, are also victims of Hamas, Josh,

2773
02:23:42,160 --> 02:23:43,560
Speaker 17: and that's what people are objecting to.

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02:23:43,920 --> 02:23:44,240
Speaker 7: Josh.

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02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:46,520
Speaker 27: What is your response to I know there was some

2776
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:48,760
Speaker 27: pushback online. So the shooting at the AID site with

2777
02:23:48,840 --> 02:23:50,720
Speaker 27: food is that as Dave is telling.

2778
02:23:50,480 --> 02:23:52,440
Speaker 14: It, Charlie.

2779
02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:54,320
Speaker 28: Honestly, I have not spent too much time in the details.

2780
02:23:54,400 --> 02:23:56,440
Speaker 28: What I can tell you is this, we know for

2781
02:23:56,480 --> 02:23:59,960
Speaker 28: a fact that at least until the recent Gaza Humanitarian Foundation,

2782
02:24:00,240 --> 02:24:03,520
Speaker 28: which is this US organized NGO distributing the AID, we

2783
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:06,440
Speaker 28: know that prior to the establishment of this, Hamas was

2784
02:24:06,520 --> 02:24:09,560
Speaker 28: pilfree and confiscating a shockingly high percentage of the AID

2785
02:24:09,560 --> 02:24:13,320
Speaker 28: that entered Gaza, sometimes well more than fifty percent, because

2786
02:24:13,320 --> 02:24:15,000
Speaker 28: that's what they do. They have monopoly of use of

2787
02:24:15,080 --> 02:24:17,640
Speaker 28: for US and Gaza, and they were essentially just artificially

2788
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:21,119
Speaker 28: inflating the prices of the actual gazin's goods and then

2789
02:24:21,120 --> 02:24:23,320
Speaker 28: stealing it all for themselves. That's what HAMAS does. It

2790
02:24:23,360 --> 02:24:27,440
Speaker 28: is a deeply corrupt cleptocracy. In addition to being a AAG.

2791
02:24:28,800 --> 02:24:32,760
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, special breaking news. I wanted to bring this

2792
02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:35,400
Speaker 4: out from the event. We're still wrapping up here at

2793
02:24:35,440 --> 02:24:38,280
Speaker 4: Turning Point USA. But Brian, our very own Brian Glenn

2794
02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:41,400
Speaker 4: is with President Trump. President Trump is landing for a

2795
02:24:41,560 --> 02:24:43,959
Speaker 4: I believe a soccer match. I want to bring Brian in.

2796
02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:45,360
Speaker 4: Tell us what's going on out there.

2797
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Speaker 29: Brian, Hey, guys, we're just outside waiting for President Trump

2798
02:24:51,520 --> 02:24:52,240
Speaker 29: to land here.

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02:24:52,680 --> 02:24:58,040
Speaker 20: He will be attending a soccer the pump Well Championship

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02:24:58,680 --> 02:25:00,000
Speaker 20: here in a couple of hours.

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Speaker 8: Puck and say then the mother kid is set to

2802
02:25:02,920 --> 02:25:05,840
Speaker 8: get him to that MetLife stadium. So just stand by

2803
02:25:05,959 --> 02:25:07,160
Speaker 8: for President Trump.

2804
02:25:10,200 --> 02:25:15,560
Speaker 4: Awesome, look at that marine one landing there. President Trump

2805
02:25:15,800 --> 02:25:18,400
Speaker 4: never stops. That was the difference between Joe Biden and

2806
02:25:18,440 --> 02:25:23,320
Speaker 4: President Trump. President Trump just never stops. For all the

2807
02:25:23,560 --> 02:25:26,240
Speaker 4: soccer fans out there. You know, when I was a kid,

2808
02:25:26,320 --> 02:25:28,360
Speaker 4: i played. I'm not a big fan, but globally it's

2809
02:25:28,360 --> 02:25:32,520
Speaker 4: a big deal. So we'll be watching this anywhere. President

2810
02:25:32,560 --> 02:25:35,240
Speaker 4: Trump goes Brian Glenn, Real America's Voice News.

2811
02:25:35,320 --> 02:25:36,000
Speaker 1: We are there.

2812
02:25:36,480 --> 02:25:39,280
Speaker 4: Looks like that marine one is landing as we speak.

2813
02:25:39,640 --> 02:25:40,440
Speaker 5: Let's go full.

2814
02:25:40,280 --> 02:25:43,600
Speaker 4: Screen on that if you can. Guys, I know America

2815
02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:45,440
Speaker 4: would rather see President Trump than me.

2816
02:26:04,320 --> 02:26:07,560
Speaker 8: No, no, it's kind of really it's nothing.

2817
02:26:08,040 --> 02:26:11,600
Speaker 13: You know again, I'd like to keep you guys up

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02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:12,360
Speaker 13: at date for right.

2819
02:26:12,280 --> 02:26:13,480
Speaker 9: Now, so we get kind of loud.

2820
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:14,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

2821
02:26:14,080 --> 02:26:16,640
Speaker 8: We're gonna get a little bit closer to uh the helicopters,

2822
02:26:16,680 --> 02:26:17,440
Speaker 8: So I'll try.

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Speaker 6: To stay off uh the mic as much as possible,

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Speaker 6: just so you.

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Speaker 22: Can hear everything.

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Speaker 17: But yeah, UH, I d see donkey, you just got

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Speaker 17: into the vehicle right there in.

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Speaker 8: Front of us.

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 8: Once this motivated right here moves out.

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Speaker 1: Of the way, UH, I'll be able to kind of

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Speaker 1: get in a better position as you see in the move.

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Speaker 3: Right now.

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Speaker 10: Make a two seconds.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna get up a little bit tighter.

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Speaker 10: I can, but I can demand the power.

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Speaker 4: And show the that Brian walk us through uh again

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Speaker 4: what's happening uh, and then what the plans are for

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Speaker 4: the rest of the day.

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Speaker 29: Okay, Well, basically, if we hear from FIFA start of

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Speaker 29: that hue, let's frame it up here here.

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Speaker 7: Shortly we're gonna go.

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Speaker 29: We're gonna transition to MetLife Stadium where President Trump is

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Speaker 29: gonna watch the final match.

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Speaker 8: Now, from what I understand, he's going.

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Speaker 1: To watch uh the entire uh with the entire match.

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Speaker 29: And so he's gonna present the uh the trophy which

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Speaker 29: we all saw that he has in his office. We're

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Speaker 29: gonna do that as well, I'm gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 29: work on getting a better shot at President Trump.

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Speaker 8: Walking off this. So I'm gonna get off of mi

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Speaker 8: cone the microphone for a second.

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Speaker 29: If we watch President Trump get off of Marine one.

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Speaker 4: We got the beast there blocking the shot a little bit,

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Speaker 4: but you could see Marine one.

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Speaker 1: You got the Marines coming off. President Trump should be there.

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Speaker 1: We go better angle there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and we are finishing coverage here at Turning Point

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Speaker 4: Action Student Action Summit, and the action will continue tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: It looks like Milania's exiting, and yep, there's President Trump

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Speaker 4: and Milania.

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Speaker 1: That's what them all right.

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Speaker 4: Looks like Brian's gonna have to get back in the van.

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Speaker 4: They're moving to another location. There's that secondary shot of

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Speaker 4: President Trump heading in to watch FIFA, the Man of

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Speaker 4: the People, the President of the People, President Donald J.

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Speaker 4: Trump heading to watch the final FIFA matchm and of

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Speaker 4: course the ever elegant First Lady Milania. All right, guys,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna bring you more of that as we have it,

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Speaker 4: but for now we are going to head back to

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Speaker 4: the stage with Charlie Kirk on the Israel Palestinian debate.

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Speaker 27: You know, people are killed also, I think we all

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Speaker 27: agreed October seventh was awful. It was terrible and should

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Speaker 27: be talked about more, and it needs to be emphasized.

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Speaker 27: We also agree this jew hate stuff has no place

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Speaker 27: in public discourse, period, end of story.

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Speaker 13: And I don't like it.

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Speaker 27: It's disgusting and we need to call it out when

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Speaker 27: we see it. And finally, I think the fifth is

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Speaker 27: that I hope we demonstrated and both our participants got

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Speaker 27: a little lively at times, that this is a debate

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Speaker 27: worth having, that it's better to have this out in

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Speaker 27: the open than silence people and censor them and call

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Speaker 27: them names instead. This is how we solve our problems.

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Speaker 27: Give it up for joshin day one last time.

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Speaker 30: Everybody, Thank you, Thank you guys, thank you.

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Speaker 31: K did we enjoy that? Everybody was that great?

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Speaker 13: Okay?

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Speaker 27: I just want to thank you guys for a phenomenal event.

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Speaker 27: On your way out, not too late to start a

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Speaker 27: turning point USA chapter. Also take the exit survey. You

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02:31:31,200 --> 02:31:33,680
Speaker 27: guys had a survey email to you. Take the survey

2893
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Speaker 27: on the way out, and everybody get involved, Get involved,

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Speaker 27: Get involved. We are now honored to announce also Amfest

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Speaker 27: coming up in December. Tickets are available, Get your tickets

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Speaker 27: right now. Enjoy this trailer for Amfest. God bless you guys,

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Speaker 27: God bless America, and keep fighting for our country.

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Speaker 3: All right, and welcome back, and we are at the

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Speaker 3: finish line. What a weekend, baby, Real America's Voice giving

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Speaker 3: you coverage that you cannot get anywhere else. This is

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Speaker 3: turning point in USA hosting the Student Action Summit.

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Speaker 5: It has been a phenomenal weekend.

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Speaker 3: Phenomenal speakers, phenomenal perspective, phenomenal debates, and of course a

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02:32:56,280 --> 02:33:01,280
Speaker 3: phenomenal panel. Ben Burkekwa, Michelle Bachus, My chrispy Bo David said,

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Speaker 3: let's get a round table here. Your final thoughts are

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Speaker 3: what was really an incredible action packed weekend.

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Speaker 5: Ben Well, look.

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Speaker 4: I love this panel specifically about this is really turning point.

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk, everything that they embody coming together with difference

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Speaker 4: of opinions and saying we can sit down respectfully and

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Speaker 4: have a dialogue and see where you're coming from, where

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Speaker 4: I'm coming from, and then let the audience make conformed consent,

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Speaker 4: informed consent. And it's the same thing that the left

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Speaker 4: does not want. It's the exact opposite of what you

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Speaker 4: see out on the streets. What we saw yesterday, it's

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Speaker 4: what the exact opposite of what the communist leftist Marxists

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Speaker 4: that have taken over our college campuses.

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Speaker 1: They don't want, and they understand why.

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Speaker 4: It's the reason they don't want it is because they

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02:33:50,720 --> 02:33:53,280
Speaker 4: understand how powerful it is if you can sit there

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Speaker 4: and have a debate. Now, it was a little contentious,

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Speaker 4: there's some parts where we're like, wow.

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Speaker 1: This could get this could go sideways.

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Speaker 4: But if you can do that, if you can respectfully

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Speaker 4: debate somebody that you disagree with and disagree strongly with

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Speaker 4: on certain issues, then and you can walk away from that,

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Speaker 4: that's how we restore our country. That's how we unite

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Speaker 4: our country once again. I think we need more of that.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we absolutely need more of that, not

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Speaker 4: less of that. And if anything, I think that was

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Speaker 4: a great way to kick this eying off and the.

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Speaker 1: Direction we're heading.

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Speaker 4: And then on top of that, to me, the best

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Speaker 4: part where the kids, these young kids, the hope for

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Speaker 4: our future of our nation.

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Speaker 5: Beautifully said Ben Michelle.

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Speaker 26: I want to piggyback off of what Ben said, because

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Speaker 26: that's the difference between the Republicans and the Democrats, right

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02:34:37,160 --> 02:34:40,280
Speaker 26: We all have friends who have canceled us, have said

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Speaker 26: things to us. My own cousin blocked me on social

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02:34:42,959 --> 02:34:45,680
Speaker 26: media over my beliefs, and it's something a lot of

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Speaker 26: us deal with. This is a great place to come

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Speaker 26: to have that community, especially if you are an area

2944
02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:54,120
Speaker 26: maybe like Chicago, LA, you feel like you're alone. This

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02:34:54,280 --> 02:34:57,120
Speaker 26: is a great reminder that you are not alone. And

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Speaker 26: to that point as well, I give all of us

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Speaker 26: up here all lot of credit because we continued to

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Speaker 26: ask the questions, especially about Epstein, despite the fact that listen,

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Speaker 26: we don't care Republican Democrat. We want the truth, we

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Speaker 26: want the transparency. Everyone else here wants that as well.

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Speaker 26: So overall, I think that this was just a great

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Speaker 26: weekend for community, and I'm looking forward to the mid terms.

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Speaker 26: I'm looking ahead. We have to get people involved in

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Speaker 26: This is a good reminder the work is not done,

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Speaker 26: it's just getting.

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Speaker 5: Started, beautifully, said Michelle bo.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: I think it's just a robust debate. That's exactly what

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02:35:29,680 --> 02:35:32,280
Speaker 25: these age kids need to have. And to your point

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Speaker 25: been about the left doesn't do this when you look

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Speaker 25: at New York right now, Mom, Donnie, no one's sitting

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Speaker 25: down and saying are these ideas good ideas? They're having

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Speaker 25: that debate right now about Israel and Palestine right now

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Speaker 25: because people need to hear what's being said and hash

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Speaker 25: that out and actually listen to the proper argumentative debate.

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Speaker 25: It's so important what TPUSA is doing because that's exactly

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Speaker 25: what this country was founded on. And I'll go back

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Speaker 25: even one step further, and that is to talk about

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Speaker 25: the foundation of faith. One year ago Butler, Pennsylvania, Yep, Yeah,

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Speaker 25: Bullet grazes Trump's here. In fact, you could say that

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Speaker 25: was a new rebirth for Donald Trump in terms of

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Speaker 25: his faith.

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Speaker 13: And you come back to TP Faith, TP.

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Speaker 25: Action, all the different initiatives that Charlie Kirk has created here,

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Speaker 25: Russell Brand talking about walking away from addiction, finding something new,

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Speaker 25: finding a personal savior in Jesus Christ. Watching them worship

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Speaker 25: this morning, I find that to be inspiring, motivating, and

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Speaker 25: this sense of community that they've created here is really

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Speaker 25: just awe inspiring to me.

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Speaker 5: Mike beautifully said Bo.

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Speaker 3: And I'll say my takeaways are I love the way

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Speaker 3: that we have accessibility. Look at the way that multiple

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02:36:33,959 --> 02:36:37,960
Speaker 3: members of President Trump's cabinet were here. Was there any

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Speaker 3: instances of Joe Biden's cabinet at events with the grassroots

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Speaker 3: on the left side. Absolutely not to have Secretary Nome,

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Speaker 3: Secretary Heg Saith Tulsea, Gabbert, tom Holme, and the lights.

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Speaker 3: The fact that they come here and directly interact with

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Speaker 3: the grassroots base, the fact that they've done that for

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Speaker 3: years now. A lot of these members of the cabinet

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Speaker 3: have come to these events to get the pulse of

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02:37:00,240 --> 02:37:04,080
Speaker 3: what Maga is thinking, speak to them, face them. I

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02:37:04,120 --> 02:37:06,400
Speaker 3: think that's something special, and I do think it's special

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02:37:06,680 --> 02:37:09,040
Speaker 3: that we come together at such an important time for

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Speaker 3: our country. Obviously we're having unprecedented wins in President Trump's

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02:37:14,000 --> 02:37:16,320
Speaker 3: first year of the term. We have a long way

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Speaker 3: to go, and as we've all said on the panel today,

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Speaker 3: differences of opinion is a good thing. This isn't the

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Speaker 3: left where they stifle anybody who doesn't go lockstep militant.

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Speaker 5: With what the leaders say.

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Speaker 3: We're allowed to have these debates on Jeffrey Epstein because

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02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:34,760
Speaker 3: we're Americans. We have the First Amendment, and we all

3002
02:37:35,120 --> 02:37:38,280
Speaker 3: want the truth and transparency to be brought to light.

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Speaker 3: So I do love the fact that the timing of

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Speaker 3: all this. Again, I don't love the situation. I don't

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Speaker 3: love Pambondi's memo, matter of fact, quite the opposite of it.

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Speaker 3: But I do love the fact that the timing of

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Speaker 3: it was where thousands of patriots of all ages came

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Speaker 3: together and have made their voice heard that this is

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Speaker 3: not an acceptable way to go. We elected President Trump

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Speaker 3: for transparency, truth, to restore American greatness. And I know

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Speaker 3: for a fact that people in the White House on

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Speaker 3: down are listening to this, They're hearing what the bas

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Speaker 3: is saying at this conference all over the place on

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Speaker 3: social media, these interviews that are going on with people.

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Speaker 3: It's a viral sensation everything going on here, and I

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02:38:18,360 --> 02:38:20,920
Speaker 3: know that that is resonating home. So one of an

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Speaker 3: amazing weekend, guys. And again, nobody could have done it

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Speaker 3: like Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 1: And what's coming.

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Speaker 4: What I'm really excited about is God's next phase for

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Speaker 4: our network for this country, Real America's Voice News. We're

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Speaker 4: going to be launching Real America's Faith and Family. Been

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Speaker 4: working on that for a long time. Instead of only

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Speaker 4: having bad news, it's time to bring some good news

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Speaker 4: and shine some light, tell the good stories of America.

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Speaker 4: We've got a family road trip show we're working on,

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Speaker 4: and a whole bunch of other stuff. So if you're not, look,

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Speaker 4: you're watching Real America's Voice News. But if you have

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Speaker 1: Them, let them know.

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Speaker 4: Amazing things are coming with all of our shows across

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Speaker 4: the network and our new network.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be great.

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Speaker 5: Start. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it, as I always like to say, and

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Speaker 3: as we stand this network, we are just getting started.

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Speaker 3: Truly are our country and Real America's Voice. Appreciate everybody

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Speaker 3: tuning in all weekend long, Ben Burgh, kwamshells Mo Davidson,

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Speaker 3: the incredible production crew that made this possible, Parker Say,

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Speaker 3: Rob Sick, the whole entire crew, and you guys out there,

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Speaker 3: love you and we'll see.

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Speaker 32: You back alive on the next broadcast. Have a great night, everybody.

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Speaker 7: Thank you to Julio Gonzalez, CEO and founder of Engineer

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Speaker 7: Tech Services, Incorporated for sponsoring this event. A true American patriot, Engineer.

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Speaker 17: Tax Services, innovative, ethical, transparent.

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Speaker 7: This has been a live special report. We now join

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Speaker 7: our programming already in progress.