Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast.
Speaker 1: Apologies for those listening. It's a how do we say?
Speaker 1: Joe certifiable? This might be our biggest show moment and
Speaker 1: we've had a lot so for him for me to
Speaker 1: move this one up to the top of the ranks.
Speaker 1: It's Sunday, you guys are listening to this now, Monday,
Speaker 1: the day before. Usually we record like the middle of
Speaker 1: the week, yeah, for a next week's episode, but I
Speaker 1: was in England, so I was like, well, let's just
Speaker 1: do it on Sunday. And there we are. She just
Speaker 1: got back from a cheer competition, which is this her
Speaker 1: last one? No, she's got one more. It's never her
Speaker 1: last never. Yeah, this was yeah. No, I'm just tired
Speaker 1: my brain. Cheer captain cat is what I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: calling your mom? Oh I had my cheer mom, Captain.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna scrimp anyway, Um, what about y'all? And then
Speaker 1: Kristen was just out of breath from existing where you'd
Speaker 1: like a birthday party or what were you doing? It?
Speaker 1: Just a little family hangout. I feel like I haven't
Speaker 1: seen anyone. Yeah, do you feel that? Like? You guys?
Speaker 1: It was like New Year's Eve and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's March, and I'm just a little confused
Speaker 1: how that happened, and all I just I just haven't
Speaker 1: seen conversation with my husband. It's weird. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, I just it's it's there's so much it's
Speaker 1: hard to I know, it was so sincere, I really
Speaker 1: feel it. But also when Kristen was coming to the house,
Speaker 1: one of my neighbor's dogs like ran into the house
Speaker 1: and then I was on a street with a two
Speaker 1: year old and she's like, what happened? It was like
Speaker 1: an episode of like Doctor Doolittle or something. There was
Speaker 1: like there was like dogs running everywhere, and then there's
Speaker 1: a baby in a stroller in the middle of the
Speaker 1: street and you're just next to it. And I was like, hmmmily,
Speaker 1: there's circumstances around this. I just don't know what they are.
Speaker 1: But to that point is I haven't seen such a
Speaker 1: sweet I love this girl in my neighborhood. And I
Speaker 1: said some thing to another neighbor the other day when
Speaker 1: so we had a showing at the house and I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I don't want to leave this only
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. So we just were like driving around. When
Speaker 1: we went to drive, we drove to go see the
Speaker 1: new house, but then like Juliet to Peace and then
Speaker 1: we drove back and so we stopped at Pam's house
Speaker 1: to use the restroom and then but I saw like
Speaker 1: one of our neighbors and I'm like, oh, he's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't seen you all. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll see you in summer, because that's like besides that,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it's hard to see anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard. And it's a pretty day today. Say, people
Speaker 1: are out, people are out. I know we all come
Speaker 1: out of hibernation in Tennessee, Yes we do. So Hello,
Speaker 1: welcome to wine. Now that we've just word vomited all
Speaker 1: over you about our lives, I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be a good week, though, I'm projecting a great week.
Speaker 1: Having said that, I feel like a weather forecast. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're on a green screen. Guy that from
Speaker 1: copy that? Can I tell them the copy that? Sure?
Speaker 1: I really like, I know I say it on sets
Speaker 1: like a copy that or can't work stuff you guys.
Speaker 1: I literally was here for like five minutes and I
Speaker 1: looked at Kat and I was like if we played
Speaker 1: a drinking game for every time I heard the words
Speaker 1: copy that. Since I got here, I'm really from you
Speaker 1: for sure, not all of us, just you. I hear mom,
Speaker 1: I'm going Pete, and then I'll hear is Kramer go
Speaker 1: copy that. I was like, she just copied that dirt
Speaker 1: four year old seven? But oh I didn't know which
Speaker 1: one it was. Well, you still copied that to your
Speaker 1: seven year old? Copy that copy that. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I say that. It's almost like a different way
Speaker 1: of saying okay, I don't know, that is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's almost like saying I heard you and I understand that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Actually thoughts with Jane Kramer? Did you have a pop
Speaker 1: brownie for your love you guys? So she came in,
Speaker 1: I'm loving this Okay, oh god, It's like, okay, I
Speaker 1: heard you that. Yeah I do, I really do. It's
Speaker 1: like it's fine. I like it. I feel like on sets,
Speaker 1: I like saying it because I don't know. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, just seems a little dismissive. Maybe
Speaker 1: with the tone. Maybe I don't know, Okay, yeah, just okay.
Speaker 1: So it's like I be that like acknowledging and I
Speaker 1: got it, sir yeah or ma'am where the director is Yes,
Speaker 1: I started noticing it on set. Only used to do it,
Speaker 1: and I agree with you because or it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: got it, but like that kind of sounds a little
Speaker 1: oh okay, I got it. That's four Oh boy, okay,
Speaker 1: got it? Copy? Oh so I go about okay, okay,
Speaker 1: isn't it fair? Okay? Got it? Yeah? Yeah. So it's
Speaker 1: like four syllables verse gotty that you guys copy that three? Okay?
Speaker 1: You beat me by one? Gy if I just say
Speaker 1: everybody okay yeah o K though you just I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't say K and I never say love you.
Speaker 1: I always say I love you. Fun fact you'll never
Speaker 1: see me say so. I think there was a meme
Speaker 1: that was going around that said it takes less than
Speaker 1: a second to add the eye before I love you,
Speaker 1: and the meaning behind it's saying I love you versus
Speaker 1: I love you. It matters to me so much. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm to think about that every time I tell you
Speaker 1: I love you? Now, Oh, do with an eye? Can't you?
Speaker 1: I don't know? So I agree, I never do it
Speaker 1: without it, but it's only I don't only with a relationship.
Speaker 1: Do I care about the eye? If I was doing
Speaker 1: it for you, I'd be like, love you, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do my friend, Yeah, love you. Oh I need do
Speaker 1: for you because I know now, I know yeah this
Speaker 1: whole time because I'm like love you no, but I'll
Speaker 1: never say that to you. Oh that's what I need. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: you guys. When the soft light goes out, it's like
Speaker 1: last call at the bar. It's really tragic of a
Speaker 1: sudden anything at the bar. Okay. So we have a
Speaker 1: another hot topics episode that I'm going to get to.
Speaker 1: But I have a hot topic that I want to
Speaker 1: talk about, and I feel like, Kat, we need to
Speaker 1: how do I say this? Let's teeter all a lot
Speaker 1: of the details. And so when I was thinking, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: how do I have this conversation, something happened. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say when Okay, guys, I feel scared. You
Speaker 1: feel scared? Oh don't. It's really not scary. Okay, but okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So an incident happened and it brought up a really
Speaker 1: good topic. Katherine and I were together at something and
Speaker 1: I wasn't there, so I already dislike it. And a
Speaker 1: topic came up in my mind that I go, huh,
Speaker 1: I wonder what would what would you do? What Catherine do?
Speaker 1: Also what would christ and do? What would you do?
Speaker 1: And just like what would you do? So at something?
Speaker 1: And there was a someone that I had dated was
Speaker 1: there as well. Now it wasn't a boyfriend, it was
Speaker 1: just a couple of months dating history, someone that I
Speaker 1: had been dating again like two two months ish two
Speaker 1: months into well, and I was like, you know, actually
Speaker 1: hanging out right, so fair, Yeah, that touche. I have
Speaker 1: my best podcast, my favorite one so far. So but
Speaker 1: how it fizzled was it was kind of, um, I
Speaker 1: saw an ugly side of this person, and it was
Speaker 1: the person said a lot of not nice things, especially
Speaker 1: when intoxicated, and I was just and normally like I
Speaker 1: can end a let's say courtship. I's call that one
Speaker 1: a courtship with respect and walking away and going, you
Speaker 1: know what, we just weren't right for each other, right,
Speaker 1: So but I always will like be kosher and be
Speaker 1: kind and you know, try to like because I don't.
Speaker 1: We said something the other day another podcast where yes,
Speaker 1: I think I was like friends with my exes back
Speaker 1: in the past, but I really am not friends with
Speaker 1: any maxes now, but I will be nice if I
Speaker 1: see them at of course, yeah I would be too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's I'm not I don't know why I held
Speaker 1: on and was friends with my exes in my twenties.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was something that I was
Speaker 1: that I needed to still have a slight validation of something.
Speaker 1: I don't know I did that, did you in twenties? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the twenty year old version of me was doing a
Speaker 1: lot of things. The forty ye old version of me
Speaker 1: is like, ah, girl, yeah, yeah, so I don't Yeah.
Speaker 1: So again, I don't think I like need to like
Speaker 1: have like be super friendly. But I would also if
Speaker 1: I was to see an X, I would hug them
Speaker 1: because maybe some like if I saw like my highlol sweetheart,
Speaker 1: like yeah, i'd be like, oh, like I probably give
Speaker 1: them up a hug or something. Maybe I don't, And
Speaker 1: I as a lot of times I'll hug people because
Speaker 1: I don't want them, like I because I'm uncomfortable. So
Speaker 1: it's like a people pleasing to you. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: Well you kind of hug everybody too, yeah, like you're
Speaker 1: a hugger. Yeah, I'm a hugger for sure. But even
Speaker 1: when I don't really want to hug someone, I will
Speaker 1: still do it because I don't want to hurt their
Speaker 1: feelings or have any awkward like well it does break
Speaker 1: that ye yeah, like hey, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I have hug Mike. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: He doesn't hug me. I'd probably want to hug him,
Speaker 1: but like, hey, half whatever. But this was the first
Speaker 1: time I saw somebody and they kind of went in
Speaker 1: for it and I just kept walking and I just
Speaker 1: said hi, and I wasn't rude with my high and
Speaker 1: the person said something. But also I think any time
Speaker 1: before that, I would have stopped and like hugged the person.
Speaker 1: Even if they said all the mean things like this
Speaker 1: person did, I still probably would have hugged. But it's
Speaker 1: what I was like, I don't actually want to hug you,
Speaker 1: nor do I need to. And I like this yeah
Speaker 1: a lot. I really like this. So I'm curious what
Speaker 1: you guys would do in that situation. Would you hug
Speaker 1: for the uncomfortable part of it or would you just
Speaker 1: keep walking straight? Because I was also I was kind
Speaker 1: of in a rush to get somewhere. I have something,
Speaker 1: and then I also had this happened to me or
Speaker 1: an X ran into my one of my husband's exes
Speaker 1: ran into him copy what not? Copied, uncopy, uncopy, uncopy
Speaker 1: and unpaced. M we. I was in a situation where
Speaker 1: an ex of my husband ran into him with and
Speaker 1: I was there and she came in big bear, huggy,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, and I was like, this is where the
Speaker 1: Detroit sneaks out. So I don't hug unless I want to,
Speaker 1: which makes a lot of people feel great. I'm sure
Speaker 1: because I hug a lot of people. But if I don't,
Speaker 1: like if it's if you're in that category, you're in
Speaker 1: that category, I don't hug you, got it. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: didn't hug someone we both know the other day and
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that person in a long time, ming
Speaker 1: I didn't. I yeah, okay, And I'm a huggy girl,
Speaker 1: right cap No, well, I actually hug more than you
Speaker 1: think for like that uncomfortable like first meeting, like I'll
Speaker 1: hug not in that situation. No, no, hug. I'm really
Speaker 1: proud of all of us because I think that's just
Speaker 1: like a very like it's very in alignment your actions
Speaker 1: and your words and your mind are all matching if
Speaker 1: you continue to be that way. But also think about
Speaker 1: it on the other foot, I don't want my husband hugging.
Speaker 1: I didn't want my husband, but I don't want him
Speaker 1: doing it either. I thought the big bear hug in
Speaker 1: this situation that I was in was extremely disrespectful. M Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think to that point too, I kind of
Speaker 1: walked away from it going I liked the fact that regardless,
Speaker 1: I was still in the back of my mind like
Speaker 1: I want to respect my boyfriend. Yeah, I like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that felt good too, too, like because obviously I
Speaker 1: told him about the situation because I also want, you know,
Speaker 1: just like, hey, heads up, you know, yeah x X
Speaker 1: whatever not X, but you know what I'm saying, like him, um,
Speaker 1: And you know, I just I think it's I liked that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wait, I don't have to hug people
Speaker 1: just because it makes them feel less uncomble. Right. So
Speaker 1: when the person then texts as well, I've bean like,
Speaker 1: great seeing you. I'm not texting you back. So this
Speaker 1: may be this may be too much, but I just
Speaker 1: got to toss it. We have a really big rule
Speaker 1: about this in our house for our kids. Oh what
Speaker 1: a lot of people say that we don't. We do
Speaker 1: not do hugs. You don't have to hug anybody, you
Speaker 1: don't feel like hugging grandparents, uncles, We don't do that.
Speaker 1: I've read a lot about this, like, oh, tell me more,
Speaker 1: I know nothing. Yeah, I'm like really super strict about this.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, tell me because I'm always give them
Speaker 1: a hug, goodbye, give them a hugbye. I think honor bodies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just honor our bodies. So like love doesn't Love
Speaker 1: and Legend don't see their grandparents a ton wow, and
Speaker 1: so we don't. There's times where it's like it's more
Speaker 1: for the adult to feel better than it is for
Speaker 1: the kid, and I just won't do that. So I'm
Speaker 1: like I'll say to love, like you know, like I'm
Speaker 1: always we always have eye contact, we always say goodbye.
Speaker 1: We always say like thanks for coming, because I want
Speaker 1: them to be respectful. But they do not owe them
Speaker 1: to hug or any part of their body. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: like that, Okay, And I'm really passionate about this. And
Speaker 1: it's actually was a tiny tiff and at our house
Speaker 1: because Preston grew up in a different way where it
Speaker 1: was like you hugging kiss everybody. I did too. I
Speaker 1: just didn't like how I felt when I was forced
Speaker 1: to do those things. You mean, like at Christmas time
Speaker 1: when you had to like hug every single Yeah, thanks
Speaker 1: for the fifty dollars gift car fifty dollars um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I when we had we had a family member
Speaker 1: leaving one time and Preston was like, gohn, give him
Speaker 1: a hug, and I was like, oh no, we don't
Speaker 1: have to do that. So she could give a high
Speaker 1: five or a fist bump if she wants to, or
Speaker 1: she can just say thanks for coming, and that's okay too.
Speaker 1: I see. I have a hard time with that. Okay,
Speaker 1: like he did too. Well. I say that like I
Speaker 1: want to be that way because I see my kids
Speaker 1: being uncomfortable when they're told to give a hug um.
Speaker 1: But I have a hard time like staying up to that,
Speaker 1: you know, like my father and or someone would be like, hey,
Speaker 1: go give a hook and I have a hard time
Speaker 1: being like no, no, no, we don't. And so I
Speaker 1: just kind of like, and I can see that they're uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: which I hate. Yeah, And I'm like, if you don't
Speaker 1: want to uncofortable. Don't ask a five year old for
Speaker 1: hug when you don't see him enough. Yeah, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: cut through it when it comes. Yea, I was better
Speaker 1: at it. I like it. I see again, I just
Speaker 1: go to the like I just want everyone to not
Speaker 1: feel not loved or something. Yeah, I mean I want
Speaker 1: him to feel loved. But I'm also just like, you
Speaker 1: can't have a there's a relationship, you know, Like I
Speaker 1: remember knowing what it felt like to hug somebody I loved,
Speaker 1: you know, like I watch my kids hug their babysitters,
Speaker 1: hug certain people in our family if they feel like
Speaker 1: they see them enough. But if there's other people that
Speaker 1: doesn't feel connective, then they don't owe anybody a hug. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that I do. Yep, it's really something. Well, I
Speaker 1: will tell you at this because we're about to take
Speaker 1: a break. I'll tell you who it was like when
Speaker 1: I have a guess you do, M can't wait. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't hug him either. Let's take a break and then
Speaker 1: we've got a hot, hot topic that I need a
Speaker 1: lot of help on this one. Okay, So I you guys,
Speaker 1: I love I love love love my podcast. We love
Speaker 1: our podcast. Producers, having said that sometimes these hot topics,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I feel like I'm under a rock because
Speaker 1: I don't watch Bravo, and all I have seen on
Speaker 1: my feeds is this Bravo somebody cheated somebody, and so
Speaker 1: there's I'm like, well, there's a hot topic in there somewhere, right,
Speaker 1: because it's an evolving cheating. So we're gonna get Jackie
Speaker 1: on and she's gonna fill us in so for all
Speaker 1: those people that don't know. But then I have something
Speaker 1: else on the side that I kind of want to
Speaker 1: talk about because it just feels like this is just
Speaker 1: so like yucky. Well it seems messy and complicated, Like
Speaker 1: I needed a whiteboard because people are dating people, were
Speaker 1: married to people and then they're not, and so I
Speaker 1: just need someone to lay it all out for me. Jackie,
Speaker 1: whiteboard it for us. Get in here with your power
Speaker 1: point presentation. Okay, I no, right, I should have a
Speaker 1: white board. It is confusing, it is messy. This is
Speaker 1: huge news for Bravo fans, especially if you watch vander
Speaker 1: Pump Rules. So the main couple is Arianomattox and Tom Standivall.
Speaker 1: They are the stable couple of the show. Wait, so
Speaker 1: Arianna and Tom are married. No, they're not married. They've
Speaker 1: been together for nine years. They have a house together. Okay,
Speaker 1: arian Arianna Tom no kids, nine years, no kids. They're
Speaker 1: considered the stable that's there. And I can tell you
Speaker 1: sand of all. Let me because there's another Tom involved.
Speaker 1: Tom Toms are always confusing yet Okay, Now the other
Speaker 1: player in this whole mess. Her name is Rickel Riquet.
Speaker 1: Can I just say something really fast? There was a
Speaker 1: Raquel in my high school once they were last name,
Speaker 1: because you know, I again, I don't want to quit
Speaker 1: because a lot of them, Raquel was not She was
Speaker 1: the popular girl and she was not nice girl. So
Speaker 1: is she the Is she not a nice girl in
Speaker 1: this situation? She's really nice, She's really like sweet, comes
Speaker 1: off innocent, if not innocent. So she came on the
Speaker 1: show because she was engaged to James Kennedy, who was
Speaker 1: a cast member of the British DJ that's on the show,
Speaker 1: James Kennedy from E that's Jason. That's Jason. Yeah, that's Jason.
Speaker 1: That's that's my pop culture. So Raquel and James Kennedy
Speaker 1: were engaged for five years. They broke off their engagement
Speaker 1: last year. That's season nine of Bander Pump Roules. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: So the whole mess is that Raquel and Tom Sandobal
Speaker 1: have been having an affair for the past six months. Wait,
Speaker 1: and that's the one that's that's the one that's with Arianna. Yes,
Speaker 1: Arianna Stable. Yes, And so the whole thing is so
Speaker 1: in season ten that is currently airing on Bravo, there
Speaker 1: is another Tom who she supposedly has a crush on.
Speaker 1: That is a plot line. Raquel. Yes, Raquel has a
Speaker 1: crush on Tom Schwartz, who is Tom Sandoval's business partner.
Speaker 1: They own a bar in Um. They'll spe this in
Speaker 1: La And so everybody's seeing how this crush pans out
Speaker 1: because Tom Tom Schwartz just got divorced from Katie, who
Speaker 1: is on the show as well, and so they got
Speaker 1: married on the show like a while ago, and so
Speaker 1: Katie's newly divorced, and so Raquel is entering that relationship
Speaker 1: because they're newly divorced, and Katie asked Tom Schwartz not
Speaker 1: took up with anybody in our friend group, and then
Speaker 1: supposedly he made out with Hell during the filming of
Speaker 1: the current season, but really that was a facade because
Speaker 1: Raquel was really hooking up with Tom band of all
Speaker 1: that never really Arianna. We don't know yet because I
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. But right now, like there's only like
Speaker 1: three or four episodes in right, Okay, why is this
Speaker 1: giving anxiety right now? Tom? She had two times supposedly,
Speaker 1: but there was rumors from last Coachella April twenty twenty
Speaker 1: two that Raquel was making out that Tom. Supposedly they
Speaker 1: it was Tom Standiwal, but people said it was Tom
Speaker 1: Schwartz to cover that Tom Standiville is supposedly making out
Speaker 1: with her. A've done Arianna, like I want to like?
Speaker 1: So yes, There's been several social media posts. The cast
Speaker 1: has been very active on social media about whose side
Speaker 1: they're on. Everybody is rallying behind Arianna. Former cast members
Speaker 1: Kristen Dody posted that she was at her house. Other
Speaker 1: cast members Sheena, who is friends with Raquel m posted
Speaker 1: that she's team Arianna. So everybody is team Arianna. Isn't
Speaker 1: Laala Kent? Is she on the show? Lala Kent is
Speaker 1: going she is going off on Tom Sandoval and Arianna,
Speaker 1: I mean a Tom Standival and Raquel because Laala Kent
Speaker 1: Since the beginning, since Raquel joined the show, was very
Speaker 1: like called her a bambidide b and like was very
Speaker 1: rude to her and calling her out. And then she's
Speaker 1: also been very like she doesn't like Tom Sandoval, you know,
Speaker 1: she thinks he's thirsty and all that stuff. And now
Speaker 1: she's coming around saying I was right, I was right.
Speaker 1: So she's been very active. James Kennedy, who's dating somebody
Speaker 1: else now, is very active on social media. So there's
Speaker 1: all these things coming out on social media about these
Speaker 1: two because everybody is team Arianna now. Tom Standival this
Speaker 1: morning posted an apology, but he said, like, can I
Speaker 1: hear his apology? Because I love to like dissect a
Speaker 1: man's apology. Wait, can we practice before you go into
Speaker 1: the apology? I do know this much. Yes, Tom didn't
Speaker 1: tell Arianna. She found out. No, she found out that matters.
Speaker 1: She found out because he is in a band, a
Speaker 1: cover band, and he was at a show on was
Speaker 1: it Wednesday night, Wednesday or Thursday night? Tom Sandoval's phone
Speaker 1: fell out of his pocket. Arianna picked it up and
Speaker 1: she found videos that were sexually explicit from Raquel and
Speaker 1: texts from Raquel that was going back six months ago.
Speaker 1: So That's how Arianna found out, and then Tom Sandoval
Speaker 1: came quean to her, and then Raquel What's on Watch
Speaker 1: what Happens Live last week with Shena, another cast member,
Speaker 1: and then that's when things went down, found out, and
Speaker 1: then Shena and Raquel supposedly got on an altercation. Supposedly
Speaker 1: people are saying that Sheena punched her. We don't come
Speaker 1: gome violence in any way, but that's what's being said
Speaker 1: around the internet. I don't know if it's true, it's rumored,
Speaker 1: so um. But Shena has since then came out and
Speaker 1: said she was team marian and stopped following Raquel on Instagram. Okay,
Speaker 1: so then Tom is guilty as charged. Wait before we
Speaker 1: reach Tom's too though, has Raquel said anything? No, No,
Speaker 1: she just lay silent. Yeah. Ariana deactivated her Instagram account. Yeah,
Speaker 1: part and exactly. So it's extremely messy because there's two
Speaker 1: Toms involved. And then again Tom Schwartz and Tom Standival
Speaker 1: have a business called Schwartz and Sandy's, which is a
Speaker 1: new bar that they're opening or they just opened, and
Speaker 1: on the show you see the opening, like getting ready
Speaker 1: for the opening and all that. So can I just
Speaker 1: ask say one thing is there is there a piece
Speaker 1: of any of this that you're like, is this just
Speaker 1: made up for the fact that it's just a Bravo
Speaker 1: TV show? I know that's what. And Bravo also picked
Speaker 1: up their cameras and started filming. So isn't it money? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because it'd be interesting to see how radians were before
Speaker 1: and after the Devil Tom scandal. Yes, everyone's talking about it.
Speaker 1: Season ten is airing, so they're thinking that season ten
Speaker 1: is gonna continue with this drama. Andy already tweeted like
Speaker 1: how many reunion parts can we get, you know, for
Speaker 1: all this? So I'm not sure, Like I really everybody
Speaker 1: seems really upset, So I think maybe it's I think
Speaker 1: it's real because that's the thing where I feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of these because you know, many people do
Speaker 1: reality TV shows. Yeah, there's obviously going to be drama,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot like hey say this, or let's
Speaker 1: let's cloud this storyline. Like even when we did that
Speaker 1: little thing, it's like, all right, try to get them
Speaker 1: to talk about this, which then called And so I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm sure things happen, and obviously it's the only thing
Speaker 1: that just feels a little ironic or something. That is
Speaker 1: the fact that to me, and again this is maybe
Speaker 1: not all cheaters do this, but my X was very
Speaker 1: good at maybe changing the name in the phone. So
Speaker 1: if there was a if he put Raquel in there
Speaker 1: and then put those messages, I mean, that's just sloppy
Speaker 1: cheating number one. But number two, Yeah, it's like but
Speaker 1: also that just seems a little convenient that that's like
Speaker 1: her name was in the phone. But I'm gosh, I mean,
Speaker 1: I would I would hope that wasn't because I'd hate
Speaker 1: when people I mean the fact that like Ariana's you know,
Speaker 1: got got hurt and anyone's hurting. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it past anybody to have it to cheat. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: there's like so much information coming out from every everywhere,
Speaker 1: Like people are saying, I was at Tom's show last night.
Speaker 1: People were screaming arian his name because on Saturday or
Speaker 1: Friday night or Saturday night he had a show for
Speaker 1: his own cover band in Orange County, and so there's
Speaker 1: just so much information coming out about it. I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a lot like it's like for
Speaker 1: Bravo fans are like minds are blown Okay, okay, what
Speaker 1: a Tom's Okay, here we go, word of Tom. Hey,
Speaker 1: I fully understand and deserve your anger and disappointment towards me,
Speaker 1: but please leave Schwartz, my friends, and family out of
Speaker 1: the situation. Schwartz specifically only found out about this very
Speaker 1: recently and most definitely did not condone my actions. This
Speaker 1: was a very personal thing. Also, Schwartz and Sandies. That's
Speaker 1: the name of the bar that they owned together. I
Speaker 1: might have a name on it, but also there are
Speaker 1: three other partners and twenty employees who especially rely on
Speaker 1: the restaurant for income for them and their families, just
Speaker 1: like Tom Tom, which is another bar that they did
Speaker 1: together with Lisa Vanderpump. I am a small part of
Speaker 1: a much bigger thing. Please direct your anger towards me
Speaker 1: and not them. They did nothing wrong. I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: that my partners, Greg Brett and Schwartz, and our employees
Speaker 1: have to suffer for my actions. I will be taking
Speaker 1: a step back and taking a hiatus out of respect
Speaker 1: for my employees and partners. I need some time to
Speaker 1: address everything else. Sorry for everything. Did Rackel did Raquel
Speaker 1: name the bar Tom Tom? Because that seems like something
Speaker 1: she's into interesting. That makes me feel like it's real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes me definitely feel like it's real. People are responding,
Speaker 1: the castmates are responding, say what about Ariana? No, sorry
Speaker 1: to Arianna. That's where I'm at. Yeah, I know it's terrible.
Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting though, from that apology, I almost
Speaker 1: like the fact that he hopefully he's doing an internal
Speaker 1: apology and not just doing the blanket like I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry for hurting you, because he needs to be saying
Speaker 1: that to her and not because a lot of the
Speaker 1: times when you see those Tristan or the whatever Levine apologies,
Speaker 1: they're like, they don't really. The only one that really
Speaker 1: did it good was Timberlakes. He's like, I hurt her,
Speaker 1: and you know, he like really empathized with her pain,
Speaker 1: and and everybody else is like, I'm just so sorry.
Speaker 1: I loved you so much. I hate the public apologies honestly.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get why they have to do them,
Speaker 1: but I hate him. Yeah, I would have just like
Speaker 1: some mention of her like I am handling my relationship
Speaker 1: with Arianna and I have got you know whatever. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: his business. Yeah, that's a little yeah. Yeah, And he's
Speaker 1: like and free beers on Friday night. Yeah, is this
Speaker 1: guy talking? Don't let this suffer? And maybe he's not
Speaker 1: sorry for the affair, maybe he's not whatever, who knows,
Speaker 1: and maybe that is his concern right now. I get that,
Speaker 1: but it seems very said that. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I keep thinking back to like, you know you were
Speaker 1: on I mean, that's I mean shot with my ex.
Speaker 1: We were filming a reality show when he was cheating.
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't you know that stuff's gonna come out?
Speaker 1: I just don't think always comes out. I just don't
Speaker 1: think they think. Yeah, I truly don't think that they're thinking.
Speaker 1: They're thinking with their and for once, like can a
Speaker 1: guy just I would have so much more respect if
Speaker 1: a man came and said, I dub yes, I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry I and whether you stay with me or not,
Speaker 1: Like it's the discovery is the worst part because you
Speaker 1: can't trust anything they say moving forward. That's why it's
Speaker 1: like when a cheater whatever, like, how are you ever
Speaker 1: going to trust them again? They didn't tell you? So.
Speaker 1: Was Raquel and Ariana friends as well? Yes, they were friends.
Speaker 1: She was closer to Shena on the show, but they
Speaker 1: were friends because member. Yeah. Yeah, they're all cast members
Speaker 1: and um, there was even so people are now going
Speaker 1: back to like Tom Sandovald's interviews and Raquel's interviews and
Speaker 1: recently on Watch What Happens Live, Andy ass which Tom
Speaker 1: do you think is more attractive? Tom Sandoval Tom Schwartz
Speaker 1: And then she answered Tom Sandoal So, like people are
Speaker 1: dissecting this and there's like Reddit saying that they're in love,
Speaker 1: that he's been wanting to read. Um, he's been wanting
Speaker 1: to leave Arianna. This is all like stuff online, So
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true. Yeah, we don't give
Speaker 1: any credit to that here on the wind Down podcast. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you know I would just say to Ariana better. I
Speaker 1: mean nine years so it's so hard, but I just
Speaker 1: hate that she's hurting and whatever. Everyone else needs to
Speaker 1: figure out, Like, I hope they all do their internal
Speaker 1: work to figure out why they've went that path instead
Speaker 1: of doing it better. We all make mistakes, but hopefully
Speaker 1: they can look in how hard man with how public
Speaker 1: it is so public, that's what I was just thinking.
Speaker 1: It hurts me. I mean, they don't have a choice.
Speaker 1: It's just so public, and people think are so emotionally invested,
Speaker 1: like Jackie, Oh my gosh, everybody's invested, and I just
Speaker 1: and even like on our podcast producers text, we're all
Speaker 1: just like what is going on? But yeah, because it
Speaker 1: is a reality show. They're part of a reality show
Speaker 1: that people have been watching their relationship. We watched from
Speaker 1: the beginning of their relationship, are on and tom of
Speaker 1: them getting together, and so I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people have watched them grow and go through things together.
Speaker 1: So I think it's like a relationship you almost feel
Speaker 1: like you're a part of because you've seen the growth
Speaker 1: with them. They bought a house together, and they fell
Speaker 1: in love on the show and all that. So you're
Speaker 1: just kind of like, well, like my friends, I've been
Speaker 1: watching for nine years on a reality show and now
Speaker 1: they're broken up, and then you feel for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's sad. That's where I always go with, you know,
Speaker 1: because we've obviously have filmed those little teasers and stuff
Speaker 1: for reality stuff for reality shows, and a part of it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be already show because I feel like social media,
Speaker 1: our phones are our own private reality story reality show, right, So,
Speaker 1: but this is like a whole different level. So I
Speaker 1: often wonder, you know, as fun as it would be
Speaker 1: to have all of us like we did like a show.
Speaker 1: How scary the flip side of that is to be
Speaker 1: so dissected and then when the drama happens, it's like
Speaker 1: but and having said all that, though, I mean, then
Speaker 1: you look at the Kardashians and they've found a way
Speaker 1: to just block out the negative noises and the things
Speaker 1: that I think the key is the executive producer or
Speaker 1: the producer piece of it, because you still the reality
Speaker 1: TV moment I had was not a nurturing, loving one
Speaker 1: because I literally signed like one hundred and sixty pages
Speaker 1: that was just like edit me anyway you want to,
Speaker 1: and also you could kill me. It's not your fault.
Speaker 1: And I was like XO xo, you know, like I
Speaker 1: can't wait. Yeah. The problem is, though, is you're still
Speaker 1: getting doesn't matter if you have a little bit of
Speaker 1: control over it. They are still going to dissect every
Speaker 1: little thing. And you have full control over what you
Speaker 1: put on social media. Yeah, that's just the thing that
Speaker 1: So are we going to start our own online social
Speaker 1: media reality TV show? Yep? Okay, maybe you and you
Speaker 1: are my participating players, not me anymore, because that's terrifying. No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's scary. I just hate anybody that has
Speaker 1: to do any of this publicly. I felt that way
Speaker 1: about Ukramer the entire time, like it's just it's not fair.
Speaker 1: It's all of that is heartbreak anyways. I mean, even
Speaker 1: if say all of this is scripted, all of it's
Speaker 1: a big setup blah la lah, like there's still your
Speaker 1: character is being just drug through the mud either way,
Speaker 1: you know, and you've got and then you've got people
Speaker 1: pitying you and you guys like it's it's just no
Speaker 1: wonder like silent the social media try out yourself sister, Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: I shoot, I remember the I wrote this down and
Speaker 1: something that you'll read one day. But it was the
Speaker 1: because you guys had told me not to put Instagram
Speaker 1: on for a minute, like after I filed, but of
Speaker 1: course I looked, because if the anxiety almost felt worse
Speaker 1: to like not look at it, and then you see
Speaker 1: all these things with like our picture with like the
Speaker 1: heart through it and like the it's just like you're
Speaker 1: just the anxiety. The like of all of that was
Speaker 1: the worst feeling in the world. But yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: for that's crap. I hate to pick a team, but
Speaker 1: Bye Tom, Bye Tom Tom, Bye Double Tom. I agree.
Speaker 1: I actually kind of feel bad for the other time. Literally,
Speaker 1: can the poor Tom, poor Tom shorts? The other Tom
Speaker 1: was use a facade. So yeah, he's like, He's like,
Speaker 1: I just gotten a divorce. I thought I had a
Speaker 1: hot girlfriend. She's making out with my best friend and partner. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go team Arian on this one too. And
Speaker 1: if you need advice on how to get over a cheater,
Speaker 1: slide into my DMS. Yeah, got you, girl, Actually just
Speaker 1: grab a copy of that's coming soon. Can we move
Speaker 1: on to something lighter? Yeah? What would you like to
Speaker 1: move on to? I like to move on to Bette
Speaker 1: Miller's finally coming out that she tailored her face. Hey girl,
Speaker 1: Hey girl, girl, come on now, we already knew. Would
Speaker 1: she say? Is she saying she just now? I think
Speaker 1: she just admitted that. Like the focus star got candid
Speaker 1: about her seemingly ageless appearance during her acceptance speech to
Speaker 1: the Costume Designs Designer's Guild. Monday Night Time has a
Speaker 1: way of smoothing everyth out, the seventy seven year old
Speaker 1: joked while accepting Distinguished Collaborator Award. I've been at it
Speaker 1: for close to sixty years, and I do look fabulous,
Speaker 1: I know, she joked, as the crowd cheered, I've been
Speaker 1: I've had some tailoring done on my face. I'm using
Speaker 1: that phrase speculation. The singer had previously gone a facelifter botox.
Speaker 1: Miller has been mum on the matter until not until now.
Speaker 1: I just like it when everybody can. I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to say what you've done. I'm very loud and
Speaker 1: proud about my botox, my all my injections, because I
Speaker 1: don't think it's fair to sit back like I have
Speaker 1: a lot of girls in my hometown. They're like, oh
Speaker 1: you're you know, like you look so pretty or you're
Speaker 1: this was like, first of all, it was a red carpet,
Speaker 1: I'm spray tanned. You know, I have a corset on
Speaker 1: and I have spanks, double spanks this last time because
Speaker 1: I had to hide a little secret guest. And then
Speaker 1: you know it's like I'm so I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess it's part of in my brain, like playing
Speaker 1: fair for females, Like am I making any sense? I
Speaker 1: don't think it's fair to be like, oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: just age gracefully, or you know, like I have good genetics.
Speaker 1: My mom is super pretty and doesn't look our age.
Speaker 1: My grandma doesn't look our age. But I'm also botoxy
Speaker 1: and the shi t out of my face like and
Speaker 1: I'm I say that because I don't think it's fair
Speaker 1: for anybody to compare themselves and not know the tools
Speaker 1: that are being used. Yeah, I agree with you, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, I agree with you, and if
Speaker 1: that were me, I would tell everybody. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, it's their body, it's their choice, and I
Speaker 1: also feel like it's kind of their choice whether they
Speaker 1: want to tell people or not. I don't know once
Speaker 1: you're in public. Oh well, I think it's the thing
Speaker 1: is I think it's kind of obvious too, like when
Speaker 1: you look at like a madonna, like you know that
Speaker 1: certain people have gotten work done, and I hate that
Speaker 1: we have to be made to feel bad that we
Speaker 1: have gotten worked one or like, oh look how much
Speaker 1: their face has changed. It's like, you know, guy can
Speaker 1: go wrinkly until they're eighty and look like Harrison forty
Speaker 1: is a very track of man or Kevin Costner, but
Speaker 1: a woman can't be like you know, I remember they
Speaker 1: used to talk about Nicole Kidman not being able to
Speaker 1: move her face. Well, I hope they say that about
Speaker 1: me behind my back that Kristen brush. She can barely
Speaker 1: move her face. That's right, and you could too. I
Speaker 1: think there's ways of slowing the process down. Now. I
Speaker 1: think sometimes women may might do it where it may
Speaker 1: might make them look older too. I want to have
Speaker 1: the middle ground where you know, yeah, I do botox.
Speaker 1: I don't do it every three months. I do like
Speaker 1: every like five to six, so, like you know, twice
Speaker 1: a year, just to whatever, just to help slow down
Speaker 1: the process. Lit. My mom has never done botox once
Speaker 1: in her life. She's so cute and she doesn't have
Speaker 1: like a barely wrinkle. But like you said, I just
Speaker 1: slowing down. Having said that, it is something where I
Speaker 1: noticed when I was smiling, how wrinkly and then like that,
Speaker 1: you know, when your eyelids start to get and so
Speaker 1: I think there's things like those eyelid surgeries. Now, I
Speaker 1: just think there's a balance if you want to do
Speaker 1: it great, yes, absolutely, Now I don't know that I
Speaker 1: could be on the extreme side of things, But I
Speaker 1: also think there can be like a healthy balance. Having
Speaker 1: said all of that, I am having an issue with
Speaker 1: so I've been really deep diving. I love Bethany Frankel.
Speaker 1: I've just been like in such a deep dive and
Speaker 1: she's been doing a unfilter follow and so for the
Speaker 1: last three days, I've made myself not do a filter
Speaker 1: on my stories, and it's it plays with your mind
Speaker 1: so much because I've been so used to and I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't used like the real extreme ones like the
Speaker 1: one that I used kind of makes your lips a
Speaker 1: teeny bit bigger, you know, and like one that's like
Speaker 1: syringe will too. I just I'm not there. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't know. Maybe when I'm older,
Speaker 1: I might touch my lips. But I've only ever done botox.
Speaker 1: That's it. It's only I'm obviously my boobs. That's they're
Speaker 1: o hey girls, Hey girls. But with everything else and
Speaker 1: so so the filters. It's just it makes me feel
Speaker 1: sad because I'm like, man, like, I would never I
Speaker 1: keep going back to Jolie. I would never want her
Speaker 1: to filter her face on Instagram, and I'm like, here's
Speaker 1: her mom filtering her face. And I've just I've loved
Speaker 1: watching what Bethany's done. Now I'm not ready to say
Speaker 1: I'm never going to filter myself, right, So that's why
Speaker 1: I haven't done it. But I'm trying to like just
Speaker 1: not do it as much. So maybe I went back
Speaker 1: to the nineteen eighty seven one where it doesn't change
Speaker 1: your face, just gives you a slight tan eighty seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've I've I'm like, maybe I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: back to that because that one just gives you a
Speaker 1: little little a little bronze. Okay, so I've been doing something. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't do my videos on Instagram first. I only
Speaker 1: do them on my camera first, and that'll keep you
Speaker 1: from filtering it. Yeah, that's smart. So I just posted
Speaker 1: this one of Love and I the other day and
Speaker 1: she had bunny ears on and I have about nine
Speaker 1: thousand wrinkles in my forehead because I haven't votoxed and
Speaker 1: because you know, you can't do that when you're pregnant,
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to just swing through on the
Speaker 1: way home from the hospital I get injected. But I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to. I almost didn't post it,
Speaker 1: and it was so cute of her, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is just reality, and I'm just
Speaker 1: going to do it. Yeah, so I didn't do I
Speaker 1: didn't even paris it. I did New York on it
Speaker 1: at the swipepee to make it look a little greeny
Speaker 1: in old school. But is it's it's it's like my
Speaker 1: challenge though. I will say it's like a few things
Speaker 1: that I having something I don't look cute. I would
Speaker 1: have felt cute if I did the filter, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's so messed up. I know. That's why I had
Speaker 1: to stop, because then I was being hard on myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I like a false reality, yeah, even for yourself,
Speaker 1: which gets weird and really kind of crazy. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not doing this to me anymore. Like
Speaker 1: you guys, we all look good and we're healthy, you know,
Speaker 1: like we're trying. So it were so picked up part,
Speaker 1: and then you see all these other people using these
Speaker 1: filters that I'm like, this is that really what they
Speaker 1: look like? And then I go I'm like, WHOA, Like
Speaker 1: that looks nothing. I just had this conversation about weight
Speaker 1: and the weight loss drug that's running rampant, like all
Speaker 1: over the place. Everyone's getting these shots of this, the
Speaker 1: diabetic medicine that is making everybody super tiny, and I
Speaker 1: had this conversation with a girlfriend the other day. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, that just it feels like an unfair race,
Speaker 1: you know, like it feels like because your kins on
Speaker 1: that one. But yeah, me too, because I don't think
Speaker 1: it's good for your body if you don't need that
Speaker 1: medicine plus all the other things, like people that need
Speaker 1: it have a hard time getting it. But you know,
Speaker 1: like we have to walk carpets with people that aren't
Speaker 1: playing the same aren't racing the same race as us.
Speaker 1: I already walk carpets as an older wife, which is
Speaker 1: crazy at forty, but at forty, I'm one of the
Speaker 1: older ones, and now I'm the one. It's like working
Speaker 1: out five times a week and I'm not doing any
Speaker 1: of these not saying other wives there are, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, if you're in these public places, I
Speaker 1: don't know who is and who isn't. But I know
Speaker 1: everyone is rapidly shrinking lately, everyone, I mean, from LA
Speaker 1: to New York and everybody in between. But what makes
Speaker 1: me sad about that whole conversation. You just compared yourself
Speaker 1: to people for five minutes older, shrinking small, Like whatever
Speaker 1: happened everyone being different sizes? I know different ages like that, honestly,
Speaker 1: but it's so angry. It's the pick apart piece, right
Speaker 1: because like when you're working yourself apart. No, but like
Speaker 1: on a I think I look great on a carpet
Speaker 1: because so the skinnier, the younger, whatever. And it's but
Speaker 1: I also just I'm so proud of my body because
Speaker 1: it's a healthy body. I workt really hard. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I hear you. I just hate hearing people.
Speaker 1: But like you are older, you are forty, I know,
Speaker 1: but it's weird to be in all of that. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just crazy. That's I get. I'm not
Speaker 1: on red carpet, so I I understand that that's a
Speaker 1: different Well. They just wouldn't know how old I am.
Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter. All I'm saying is Bet
Speaker 1: Middler finally freaking said it. Thank you. We need you
Speaker 1: to say it. It's like we didn't. But why did
Speaker 1: she have to say it? That's the thing too, It's
Speaker 1: like kind of what I think what Cat said. It's like,
Speaker 1: you don't we Harrison Ford is not to say like
Speaker 1: like I look amazing with my wrinkles. It's like, who,
Speaker 1: like let people age however they want to age right?
Speaker 1: And why did we have to always mention the girls,
Speaker 1: how we age the women. It's just such a comparison
Speaker 1: thing that just makes you. It's it's always back to
Speaker 1: that comparison. It's like we're always it's the filter, it's
Speaker 1: everything you always comparing ourselves. But we're doing it to ourselves.
Speaker 1: We are literally doing But it's because it's, as I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because it's there and it's able to like one one
Speaker 1: click left, I have this really pretty thinner nose, a
Speaker 1: bigger lip, and like a nice like makeup thing. I
Speaker 1: understand I've stopped now trying to do is I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I am me, this is that's not what I look like.
Speaker 1: Let's okay, filter in the public eye. Do you truly
Speaker 1: and answer this, like, if you post the same video twice,
Speaker 1: are you going to get one? Are you going to
Speaker 1: get people texting or messaging back saying you look ugly
Speaker 1: in this video? I because I see what the other
Speaker 1: one looks like. I look prettier in the filtered But
Speaker 1: you're saying that, I am saying it, so I'm saying,
Speaker 1: so we're doing it to ourselves, Like I've never had
Speaker 1: someone send me a message being like, you look ugly
Speaker 1: in that. Now, I don't have a following like y'all do,
Speaker 1: and maybe y'll do. But let's not lump me and
Speaker 1: Cramer together. I'm just two million. People's a lot of opinions,
Speaker 1: is it, truly? Because I think about me when I filter.
Speaker 1: I do a filter, and it's just about what I
Speaker 1: think and me looking for. It's not anyone coming to
Speaker 1: me and saying you look better this way or look
Speaker 1: better that way. You know what. I'm filters only for me.
Speaker 1: It's literally only for as. Then I started feeling like
Speaker 1: it's not fair to me. That's why I stopped doing it.
Speaker 1: And I'm doing the originals on my phone because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I there's something i'm doing or needing from that that
Speaker 1: I don't like. That's That's what I'm getting at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like that I'm still going to get so we're
Speaker 1: super clear. I mean, I just I just want everybody
Speaker 1: stop comparing so much. And you're right right now, it's
Speaker 1: really hard because there's a lot of drugs out there
Speaker 1: that people are getting skinnier, and they're you know, well
Speaker 1: what there's quick fixes for everything. I mean even my
Speaker 1: botox is a quick fix. Really, yeah, for sure, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just wish everyone knew how pretty
Speaker 1: they really are. Same yeah, and different ages, different wrinkles,
Speaker 1: different sizes. You guys, well, I think everyone's trying to
Speaker 1: look younger and thinner, and you know, and especially when
Speaker 1: you're seeing it so much on a platform that we
Speaker 1: have in our hand. Yeah, the day. Yeah, let's do
Speaker 1: a no filter things. I'm really I'm not ready to commit. Okay,
Speaker 1: but have you noticed Yeah? I didn't notice. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: you notice any different? I don't think you look any different.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice it. It's in a way of like,
Speaker 1: oh she looks different. I just noticed it wasn't up there,
Speaker 1: you guys. Some of these are making people look like
Speaker 1: l ol dolls. Like I'm like, okay, we gotta get real. No. No,
Speaker 1: the one I use was, you know, it's it's like
Speaker 1: the natural It's is like natural beauty, and like, I
Speaker 1: like that one, but it's also natural. It's not natural.
Speaker 1: So I just I shout out to Bethany. I'm close.
Speaker 1: I'm close to to to pulling the to pulling the trigger.
Speaker 1: My problem is that when I do it, I want
Speaker 1: to be like, you guys know this is unfiltered, right,
Speaker 1: Probably something deeper there too, another conversation on another day. Disclaimer,
Speaker 1: Oh man, well we really did it. We really did
Speaker 1: do it. We have a lot of other hot topics
Speaker 1: that will discuss it a later time. But I feel
Speaker 1: like this is a good wrap up and just look
Speaker 1: in the mirror and tell yourself you're beautiful. It's kind
Speaker 1: of I know it sounds really silly to do, but
Speaker 1: I okay, So I just have it's really fast up.
Speaker 1: When I was flying back from England, I started to
Speaker 1: have a little anxiety because I was in the middle seat.
Speaker 1: Oh oh honey, that's no place for craneer anyway, and
Speaker 1: so I was starting to like really freak myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, like freaking myself up. And remember
Speaker 1: Mel Robbins was like, high five yourself. No, it's okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, but no, it's it's the high five. It's
Speaker 1: the high five. But I was like, I, for some
Speaker 1: reason can't do the high five. It just feels a
Speaker 1: little too much for me. The high five, Well, I
Speaker 1: don't really high five people in real life. If I
Speaker 1: could hug myself, I would. I love the idea of it,
Speaker 1: and I tried it like once or twice, and then
Speaker 1: I'm like what I'm like, now I'm putting a mark
Speaker 1: on my mirror. And so that the windex thing was
Speaker 1: an issue. So I was what I started to do.
Speaker 1: And this was like a little tip for the anxiety
Speaker 1: is I would I'd go into the bathroom the so
Speaker 1: the first time i'd have to This sounds so stupid,
Speaker 1: you guys. No, I'd go into the restroom at like
Speaker 1: when I had to go on airplane, even if I
Speaker 1: didn't have to pee, I would look in the mirror
Speaker 1: and goes, you got this, You're okay, you are safe,
Speaker 1: like you're not alone on this flight. And then halfway
Speaker 1: through the plane, I'd go, you're doing so good, keep
Speaker 1: going like you know, and like literally like looking like
Speaker 1: cheering yourself on. And then I was like it's somehow
Speaker 1: didn't it worked like for the anxiety. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of flipping it now, I'm going, you don't
Speaker 1: need this, like you're beautiful post it. Hey, So I
Speaker 1: hate girl myself. Hey girl, I go, hey girl in
Speaker 1: the mirror in the bathroom. In the bathroom, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: high five anyone either. It feels very corporate for me,
Speaker 1: so I won't do that. But I'm like, hey girl,
Speaker 1: like literally never do that in one million years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just feel better about myself. So whatever you need
Speaker 1: to do, and if you need to, hay girl, yourself,
Speaker 1: Kathy and you got to find yours. Whatever that is, Gromise,
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell us next week what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I've got I've got the Jane. So you know
Speaker 1: Everyoneways says when they go one tour, you're either a Katherine,
Speaker 1: a Christen or a Janel. Right, so I'm still figurings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the Janna would go, you got this girl, and
Speaker 1: like keep going like you know whatever, and then Chris
Speaker 1: and was going, hey girl, hey girl, and Katherine, we're
Speaker 1: still figuring that one out, but we're gonna get there.
Speaker 1: So you just go look in that mirror because you're beautiful.
Speaker 1: You're beautiful, more beautiful than Cinderella was that Bridesmaids no item, No,
Speaker 1: you don't know it. I don't know that one. Come on, guys,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't want to leave you hanging. You
Speaker 1: got this, You're strong, you can do the next week