WEBVTT - Keeping Up with the Vanderpumps 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.320 Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:09.760 Apologies for those listening. It's a how do we say? 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:14.800 Joe certifiable? This might be our biggest show moment and 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:16.919 we've had a lot so for him for me to 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.480 move this one up to the top of the ranks. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.680 It's Sunday, you guys are listening to this now, Monday, 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.840 the day before. Usually we record like the middle of 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:28.960 the week, yeah, for a next week's episode, but I 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:30.960 was in England, so I was like, well, let's just 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.400 do it on Sunday. And there we are. She just 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:38.000 got back from a cheer competition, which is this her 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.479 last one? No, she's got one more. It's never her 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.120 last never. Yeah, this was yeah. No, I'm just tired 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.440 my brain. Cheer captain cat is what I'm gonna start 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:52.120 calling your mom? Oh I had my cheer mom, Captain. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.480 I'm gonna scrimp anyway, Um, what about y'all? And then 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.920 Kristen was just out of breath from existing where you'd 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:03.240 like a birthday party or what were you doing? It? 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.640 Just a little family hangout. I feel like I haven't 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.039 seen anyone. Yeah, do you feel that? Like? You guys? 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.080 It was like New Year's Eve and then all of 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.320 a sudden, it's March, and I'm just a little confused 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.000 how that happened, and all I just I just haven't 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.880 seen conversation with my husband. It's weird. But at the 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.720 same time, I just it's it's there's so much it's 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:27.360 hard to I know, it was so sincere, I really 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:32.199 feel it. But also when Kristen was coming to the house, 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:34.760 one of my neighbor's dogs like ran into the house 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.320 and then I was on a street with a two 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.360 year old and she's like, what happened? It was like 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.240 an episode of like Doctor Doolittle or something. There was 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.640 like there was like dogs running everywhere, and then there's 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:46.120 a baby in a stroller in the middle of the 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:50.600 street and you're just next to it. And I was like, hmmmily, 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.880 there's circumstances around this. I just don't know what they are. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.640 But to that point is I haven't seen such a 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.520 sweet I love this girl in my neighborhood. And I 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:01.720 said some thing to another neighbor the other day when 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.360 so we had a showing at the house and I 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:05.640 was like, well, I don't want to leave this only 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.920 thirty minutes. So we just were like driving around. When 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:09.840 we went to drive, we drove to go see the 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:11.480 new house, but then like Juliet to Peace and then 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.600 we drove back and so we stopped at Pam's house 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.679 to use the restroom and then but I saw like 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:19.799 one of our neighbors and I'm like, oh, he's like, 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:21.320 I feel like I haven't seen you all. I was like, yeah, 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:23.519 I'll see you in summer, because that's like besides that, 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.799 I mean, I feel like it's hard to see anybody. Yeah, 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:28.760 it's hard. And it's a pretty day today. Say, people 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.040 are out, people are out. I know we all come 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:35.640 out of hibernation in Tennessee, Yes we do. So Hello, 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:39.400 welcome to wine. Now that we've just word vomited all 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.400 over you about our lives, I think it's going to 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.720 be a good week, though, I'm projecting a great week. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:47.440 Having said that, I feel like a weather forecast. I 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.760 feel like you're on a green screen. Guy that from 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:53.200 copy that? Can I tell them the copy that? Sure? 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.680 I really like, I know I say it on sets 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:59.480 like a copy that or can't work stuff you guys. 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.120 I literally was here for like five minutes and I 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:03.600 looked at Kat and I was like if we played 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.760 a drinking game for every time I heard the words 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.639 copy that. Since I got here, I'm really from you 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.040 for sure, not all of us, just you. I hear mom, 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:14.760 I'm going Pete, and then I'll hear is Kramer go 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.120 copy that. I was like, she just copied that dirt 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.680 four year old seven? But oh I didn't know which 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:26.639 one it was. Well, you still copied that to your 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:28.959 seven year old? Copy that copy that. I don't know 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:30.920 why I say that. It's almost like a different way 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.480 of saying okay, I don't know, that is what it is. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:40.960 It's almost like saying I heard you and I understand that. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:47.760 Actually thoughts with Jane Kramer? Did you have a pop 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:53.960 brownie for your love you guys? So she came in, 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:58.240 I'm loving this Okay, oh god, It's like, okay, I 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:04.839 heard you that. Yeah I do, I really do. It's 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.520 like it's fine. I like it. I feel like on sets, 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:11.040 I like saying it because I don't know. So I'm like, okay, 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.840 I don't know, okay, just seems a little dismissive. Maybe 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.000 with the tone. Maybe I don't know, Okay, yeah, just okay. 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.360 So it's like I be that like acknowledging and I 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:27.480 got it, sir yeah or ma'am where the director is Yes, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.160 I started noticing it on set. Only used to do it, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.800 and I agree with you because or it's like, okay, 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:35.200 got it, but like that kind of sounds a little 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.920 oh okay, I got it. That's four Oh boy, okay, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:44.400 got it? Copy? Oh so I go about okay, okay, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.360 isn't it fair? Okay? Got it? Yeah? Yeah. So it's 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:56.479 like four syllables verse gotty that you guys copy that three? Okay? 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.080 You beat me by one? Gy if I just say 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.680 everybody okay yeah o K though you just I mean, 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.760 I don't say K and I never say love you. 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.200 I always say I love you. Fun fact you'll never 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.159 see me say so. I think there was a meme 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:17.040 that was going around that said it takes less than 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.120 a second to add the eye before I love you, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.359 and the meaning behind it's saying I love you versus 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.080 I love you. It matters to me so much. Oh, 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.120 I'm to think about that every time I tell you 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:30.240 I love you? Now, Oh, do with an eye? Can't you? 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.520 I don't know? So I agree, I never do it 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:37.960 without it, but it's only I don't only with a relationship. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.920 Do I care about the eye? If I was doing 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:41.240 it for you, I'd be like, love you, Yeah, I 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.040 do my friend, Yeah, love you. Oh I need do 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:51.600 for you because I know now, I know yeah this 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.440 whole time because I'm like love you no, but I'll 0:05:55.480 --> 0:06:02.839 never say that to you. Oh that's what I need. Yeah, Okay, 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.720 you guys. When the soft light goes out, it's like 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.520 last call at the bar. It's really tragic of a 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:12.640 sudden anything at the bar. Okay. So we have a 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.200 another hot topics episode that I'm going to get to. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:19.960 But I have a hot topic that I want to 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.920 talk about, and I feel like, Kat, we need to 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.720 how do I say this? Let's teeter all a lot 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.600 of the details. And so when I was thinking, I'm like, okay, 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:35.880 how do I have this conversation, something happened. I'm not 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:40.480 going to say when Okay, guys, I feel scared. You 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:46.360 feel scared? Oh don't. It's really not scary. Okay, but okay, okay. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.600 So an incident happened and it brought up a really 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:54.840 good topic. Katherine and I were together at something and 0:06:55.640 --> 0:07:01.800 I wasn't there, so I already dislike it. And a 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.280 topic came up in my mind that I go, huh, 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:10.040 I wonder what would what would you do? What Catherine do? 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.920 Also what would christ and do? What would you do? 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:17.680 And just like what would you do? So at something? 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:23.880 And there was a someone that I had dated was 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:29.360 there as well. Now it wasn't a boyfriend, it was 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:35.000 just a couple of months dating history, someone that I 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:41.960 had been dating again like two two months ish two 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.880 months into well, and I was like, you know, actually 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:53.160 hanging out right, so fair, Yeah, that touche. I have 0:07:53.560 --> 0:08:00.720 my best podcast, my favorite one so far. So but 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:06.520 how it fizzled was it was kind of, um, I 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:11.320 saw an ugly side of this person, and it was 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.800 the person said a lot of not nice things, especially 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:19.040 when intoxicated, and I was just and normally like I 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:23.280 can end a let's say courtship. I's call that one 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.840 a courtship with respect and walking away and going, you 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.960 know what, we just weren't right for each other, right, 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.839 So but I always will like be kosher and be 0:08:34.000 --> 0:08:36.400 kind and you know, try to like because I don't. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:40.719 We said something the other day another podcast where yes, 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:42.480 I think I was like friends with my exes back 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.839 in the past, but I really am not friends with 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:46.839 any maxes now, but I will be nice if I 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.720 see them at of course, yeah I would be too. Yeah, 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:54.800 so it's I'm not I don't know why I held 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.280 on and was friends with my exes in my twenties. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.280 I don't know if that was something that I was 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.200 that I needed to still have a slight validation of something. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.360 I don't know I did that, did you in twenties? Yeah, 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.559 the twenty year old version of me was doing a 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.000 lot of things. The forty ye old version of me 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.199 is like, ah, girl, yeah, yeah, so I don't Yeah. 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:15.120 So again, I don't think I like need to like 0:09:15.240 --> 0:09:18.360 have like be super friendly. But I would also if 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.679 I was to see an X, I would hug them 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.880 because maybe some like if I saw like my highlol sweetheart, 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.640 like yeah, i'd be like, oh, like I probably give 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.679 them up a hug or something. Maybe I don't, And 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.240 I as a lot of times I'll hug people because 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.599 I don't want them, like I because I'm uncomfortable. So 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.839 it's like a people pleasing to you. That makes sense. 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:44.240 Well you kind of hug everybody too, yeah, like you're 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.120 a hugger. Yeah, I'm a hugger for sure. But even 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.160 when I don't really want to hug someone, I will 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.439 still do it because I don't want to hurt their 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:55.800 feelings or have any awkward like well it does break 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.560 that ye yeah, like hey, yeah, you know what I mean. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.760 Like I mean, I have hug Mike. I don't want to. 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:02.720 He doesn't hug me. I'd probably want to hug him, 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:07.320 but like, hey, half whatever. But this was the first 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:12.920 time I saw somebody and they kind of went in 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.240 for it and I just kept walking and I just 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.520 said hi, and I wasn't rude with my high and 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:24.960 the person said something. But also I think any time 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.200 before that, I would have stopped and like hugged the person. 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.120 Even if they said all the mean things like this 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.480 person did, I still probably would have hugged. But it's 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.120 what I was like, I don't actually want to hug you, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.360 nor do I need to. And I like this yeah 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.160 a lot. I really like this. So I'm curious what 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.160 you guys would do in that situation. Would you hug 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.920 for the uncomfortable part of it or would you just 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:49.000 keep walking straight? Because I was also I was kind 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:55.000 of in a rush to get somewhere. I have something, 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.679 and then I also had this happened to me or 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.760 an X ran into my one of my husband's exes 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:06.680 ran into him copy what not? Copied, uncopy, uncopy, uncopy 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:11.360 and unpaced. M we. I was in a situation where 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:14.880 an ex of my husband ran into him with and 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.600 I was there and she came in big bear, huggy, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.000 oh yeah, and I was like, this is where the 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:26.199 Detroit sneaks out. So I don't hug unless I want to, 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.520 which makes a lot of people feel great. I'm sure 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.480 because I hug a lot of people. But if I don't, 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.760 like if it's if you're in that category, you're in 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.120 that category, I don't hug you, got it. Yeah. I 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.240 didn't hug someone we both know the other day and 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:44.280 I hadn't seen that person in a long time, ming 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.880 I didn't. I yeah, okay, And I'm a huggy girl, 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:55.760 right cap No, well, I actually hug more than you 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:59.040 think for like that uncomfortable like first meeting, like I'll 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:04.360 hug not in that situation. No, no, hug. I'm really 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.079 proud of all of us because I think that's just 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:09.440 like a very like it's very in alignment your actions 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.160 and your words and your mind are all matching if 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.200 you continue to be that way. But also think about 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:17.920 it on the other foot, I don't want my husband hugging. 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.679 I didn't want my husband, but I don't want him 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:23.559 doing it either. I thought the big bear hug in 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:28.040 this situation that I was in was extremely disrespectful. M Yeah, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.240 And I think to that point too, I kind of 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.880 walked away from it going I liked the fact that regardless, 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.319 I was still in the back of my mind like 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.760 I want to respect my boyfriend. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.280 So that felt good too, too, like because obviously I 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.719 told him about the situation because I also want, you know, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.559 just like, hey, heads up, you know, yeah x X 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.360 whatever not X, but you know what I'm saying, like him, um, 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.880 And you know, I just I think it's I liked that. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.600 I'm like, oh wait, I don't have to hug people 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.120 just because it makes them feel less uncomble. Right. So 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:02.880 when the person then texts as well, I've bean like, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.000 great seeing you. I'm not texting you back. So this 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:06.800 may be this may be too much, but I just 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:09.199 got to toss it. We have a really big rule 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.480 about this in our house for our kids. Oh what 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:13.959 a lot of people say that we don't. We do 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.280 not do hugs. You don't have to hug anybody, you 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.199 don't feel like hugging grandparents, uncles, We don't do that. 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.000 I've read a lot about this, like, oh, tell me more, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:25.520 I know nothing. Yeah, I'm like really super strict about this. 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:27.680 Oh my gosh, tell me because I'm always give them 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.120 a hug, goodbye, give them a hugbye. I think honor bodies. Yeah, 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.000 we just honor our bodies. So like love doesn't Love 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:37.079 and Legend don't see their grandparents a ton wow, and 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:41.679 so we don't. There's times where it's like it's more 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:43.599 for the adult to feel better than it is for 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.319 the kid, and I just won't do that. So I'm 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.439 like I'll say to love, like you know, like I'm 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.320 always we always have eye contact, we always say goodbye. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.679 We always say like thanks for coming, because I want 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.240 them to be respectful. But they do not owe them 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.839 to hug or any part of their body. Yeah. I 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.719 like that, Okay, And I'm really passionate about this. And 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.520 it's actually was a tiny tiff and at our house 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.360 because Preston grew up in a different way where it 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.400 was like you hugging kiss everybody. I did too. I 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.559 just didn't like how I felt when I was forced 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:15.240 to do those things. You mean, like at Christmas time 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.240 when you had to like hug every single Yeah, thanks 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:23.840 for the fifty dollars gift car fifty dollars um. Yeah. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:27.040 So I when we had we had a family member 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.320 leaving one time and Preston was like, gohn, give him 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:30.760 a hug, and I was like, oh no, we don't 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:32.640 have to do that. So she could give a high 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.960 five or a fist bump if she wants to, or 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:37.520 she can just say thanks for coming, and that's okay too. 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.880 I see. I have a hard time with that. Okay, 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.480 like he did too. Well. I say that like I 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.600 want to be that way because I see my kids 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:54.280 being uncomfortable when they're told to give a hug um. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.160 But I have a hard time like staying up to that, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.920 you know, like my father and or someone would be like, hey, 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:02.320 go give a hook and I have a hard time 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:03.920 being like no, no, no, we don't. And so I 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.040 just kind of like, and I can see that they're uncomfortable, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.680 which I hate. Yeah, And I'm like, if you don't 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:09.160 want to uncofortable. Don't ask a five year old for 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.920 hug when you don't see him enough. Yeah, I'm pretty 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:13.680 cut through it when it comes. Yea, I was better 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.120 at it. I like it. I see again, I just 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.480 go to the like I just want everyone to not 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.280 feel not loved or something. Yeah, I mean I want 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.400 him to feel loved. But I'm also just like, you 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.080 can't have a there's a relationship, you know, Like I 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.760 remember knowing what it felt like to hug somebody I loved, 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.640 you know, like I watch my kids hug their babysitters, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.800 hug certain people in our family if they feel like 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:36.640 they see them enough. But if there's other people that 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.600 doesn't feel connective, then they don't owe anybody a hug. Yeah, 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:45.240 like that I do. Yep, it's really something. Well, I 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.680 will tell you at this because we're about to take 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.960 a break. I'll tell you who it was like when 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:54.160 I have a guess you do, M can't wait. I 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:58.040 wouldn't hug him either. Let's take a break and then 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.840 we've got a hot, hot topic that I need a 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:17.360 lot of help on this one. Okay, So I you guys, 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:24.240 I love I love love love my podcast. We love 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:28.000 our podcast. Producers, having said that sometimes these hot topics, 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.760 I'm like, I feel like I'm under a rock because 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.840 I don't watch Bravo, and all I have seen on 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:41.960 my feeds is this Bravo somebody cheated somebody, and so 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:44.600 there's I'm like, well, there's a hot topic in there somewhere, right, 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:47.640 because it's an evolving cheating. So we're gonna get Jackie 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.200 on and she's gonna fill us in so for all 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:51.960 those people that don't know. But then I have something 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.520 else on the side that I kind of want to 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.600 talk about because it just feels like this is just 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:01.680 so like yucky. Well it seems messy and complicated, Like 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:05.320 I needed a whiteboard because people are dating people, were 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.159 married to people and then they're not, and so I 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.280 just need someone to lay it all out for me. Jackie, 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.320 whiteboard it for us. Get in here with your power 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.480 point presentation. Okay, I no, right, I should have a 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.080 white board. It is confusing, it is messy. This is 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.440 huge news for Bravo fans, especially if you watch vander 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:25.560 Pump Rules. So the main couple is Arianomattox and Tom Standivall. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.720 They are the stable couple of the show. Wait, so 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:34.080 Arianna and Tom are married. No, they're not married. They've 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:36.600 been together for nine years. They have a house together. Okay, 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:41.480 arian Arianna Tom no kids, nine years, no kids. They're 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:47.240 considered the stable that's there. And I can tell you 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.040 sand of all. Let me because there's another Tom involved. 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:55.880 Tom Toms are always confusing yet Okay, Now the other 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.919 player in this whole mess. Her name is Rickel Riquet. 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.320 Can I just say something really fast? There was a 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.479 Raquel in my high school once they were last name, 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.199 because you know, I again, I don't want to quit 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:10.480 because a lot of them, Raquel was not She was 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.040 the popular girl and she was not nice girl. So 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.040 is she the Is she not a nice girl in 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.880 this situation? She's really nice, She's really like sweet, comes 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:24.680 off innocent, if not innocent. So she came on the 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.480 show because she was engaged to James Kennedy, who was 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.600 a cast member of the British DJ that's on the show, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:35.400 James Kennedy from E that's Jason. That's Jason. Yeah, that's Jason. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.440 That's that's my pop culture. So Raquel and James Kennedy 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.000 were engaged for five years. They broke off their engagement 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:45.760 last year. That's season nine of Bander Pump Roules. Okay, Okay, 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:51.280 So the whole mess is that Raquel and Tom Sandobal 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.320 have been having an affair for the past six months. Wait, 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.360 and that's the one that's that's the one that's with Arianna. Yes, 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:02.879 Arianna Stable. Yes, And so the whole thing is so 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:07.000 in season ten that is currently airing on Bravo, there 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:10.600 is another Tom who she supposedly has a crush on. 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:15.800 That is a plot line. Raquel. Yes, Raquel has a 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:20.479 crush on Tom Schwartz, who is Tom Sandoval's business partner. 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:25.280 They own a bar in Um. They'll spe this in 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:31.600 La And so everybody's seeing how this crush pans out 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:37.760 because Tom Tom Schwartz just got divorced from Katie, who 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:42.120 is on the show as well, and so they got 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:44.159 married on the show like a while ago, and so 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:50.320 Katie's newly divorced, and so Raquel is entering that relationship 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:55.560 because they're newly divorced, and Katie asked Tom Schwartz not 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:58.320 took up with anybody in our friend group, and then 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.240 supposedly he made out with Hell during the filming of 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.800 the current season, but really that was a facade because 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.280 Raquel was really hooking up with Tom band of all 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.359 that never really Arianna. We don't know yet because I 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.080 haven't seen it. But right now, like there's only like 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.200 three or four episodes in right, Okay, why is this 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:23.440 giving anxiety right now? Tom? She had two times supposedly, 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:27.240 but there was rumors from last Coachella April twenty twenty 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:31.600 two that Raquel was making out that Tom. Supposedly they 0:20:31.800 --> 0:20:33.760 it was Tom Standiwal, but people said it was Tom 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:38.119 Schwartz to cover that Tom Standiville is supposedly making out 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.520 with her. A've done Arianna, like I want to like? 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.280 So yes, There's been several social media posts. The cast 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:49.240 has been very active on social media about whose side 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:53.440 they're on. Everybody is rallying behind Arianna. Former cast members 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:57.640 Kristen Dody posted that she was at her house. Other 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:02.160 cast members Sheena, who is friends with Raquel m posted 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:06.480 that she's team Arianna. So everybody is team Arianna. Isn't 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.800 Laala Kent? Is she on the show? Lala Kent is 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:14.320 going she is going off on Tom Sandoval and Arianna, 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.679 I mean a Tom Standival and Raquel because Laala Kent 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.400 Since the beginning, since Raquel joined the show, was very 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:26.760 like called her a bambidide b and like was very 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.240 rude to her and calling her out. And then she's 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.920 also been very like she doesn't like Tom Sandoval, you know, 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:34.840 she thinks he's thirsty and all that stuff. And now 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.280 she's coming around saying I was right, I was right. 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:41.720 So she's been very active. James Kennedy, who's dating somebody 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.560 else now, is very active on social media. So there's 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:47.600 all these things coming out on social media about these 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:51.520 two because everybody is team Arianna now. Tom Standival this 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:54.520 morning posted an apology, but he said, like, can I 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:57.320 hear his apology? Because I love to like dissect a 0:21:57.400 --> 0:22:00.600 man's apology. Wait, can we practice before you go into 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:04.560 the apology? I do know this much. Yes, Tom didn't 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:12.520 tell Arianna. She found out. No, she found out that matters. 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:16.440 She found out because he is in a band, a 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:20.600 cover band, and he was at a show on was 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:25.879 it Wednesday night, Wednesday or Thursday night? Tom Sandoval's phone 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.800 fell out of his pocket. Arianna picked it up and 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:33.159 she found videos that were sexually explicit from Raquel and 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.200 texts from Raquel that was going back six months ago. 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.120 So That's how Arianna found out, and then Tom Sandoval 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:44.880 came quean to her, and then Raquel What's on Watch 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.280 what Happens Live last week with Shena, another cast member, 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.720 and then that's when things went down, found out, and 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:57.280 then Shena and Raquel supposedly got on an altercation. Supposedly 0:22:57.359 --> 0:23:00.760 people are saying that Sheena punched her. We don't come 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.920 gome violence in any way, but that's what's being said 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.479 around the internet. I don't know if it's true, it's rumored, 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.240 so um. But Shena has since then came out and 0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:13.520