1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Welcome into Leading Off the Fantasy Pros Baseball Podcast. We 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: are presented by Bet three sixty five, Bet five bucks, 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: get one hundred and fifty and bonus bets when you 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: use that promo code. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Leading Off with our friends over at Bet three six five. 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: There's no Welsh, there's no Joe Piezopia, but Casey Baba 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: and myself Joel Rico are back here on this Monday 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: leading Off. We're supposed to have well Sean, but that's 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: what happens this time of year when football gets crazy. 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: Welch is famous now he's got to do the football shows. 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: But that's why Bubba and myself are here to take 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: you through everything that's going on. Talk about the latest news, 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: talk some injury updates, bets, home run calls, all that 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: great stuff. 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Bubba, how are you doing on this fine Monday. 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. It's always a pleasure as usual talking 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: baseball with you and keep going. With three weeks left 19 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: in the baseball seasons, so know who's counting. But as 20 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: we're rolling here, that other game takes place and takes 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: everybody's attention away. We still get cracking here for a 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: daily baseball for us. 23 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're down to the final I guess 24 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: there's three weeks left, three shows a week. We're down 25 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: to the final nine leading offs of the season. 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We 34 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: are gonna start with the headlines and we're gonna keep 35 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: it the way we usually do here, but we're gonna 36 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: start off with some rather tough news, and it's justin 37 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: Verlander just getting destroyed again. Eight earned runs over three 38 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: innings against the Diamondbacks, a couple of home runs, he 39 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: allowed eight hits, did not record a strikeout. What we've 40 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: seen from him in fourteen games this season has been awful. 41 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: A five thirty ERA, a one thirty eight whip, the 42 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: worst strikeout and walk rates that he's had in ten years. 43 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: Is Verlander finished? 44 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: Bubba? 45 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: Is there any hope that he can kind of come 46 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: back and give us any old Verlander type of performances 47 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: or is it just kinda he's going to go out 48 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: the back door and this is kind of how his career. 49 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: Is going to end. 50 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: I think this is kind of where we're headed. He 51 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: might get a start here and there, but velocity is 52 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: not what it once was, doesn't go deep into games. 53 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: We saw this last year before he got hurt. Things 54 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: are slowing down. He's still was serviceable, still could get 55 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: strikeouts from time to time, but he's now a pitcher, 56 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: not a thrower, like and he still was a picture before, 57 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, when you're still pumping 58 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: high nineties and the seventh or eighth in and that's 59 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 3: a thrower a lot of the time. But Vernon is 60 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 3: just getting old. Father Time is undefeated in these situations, 61 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: and it's a shame because he is one of the 62 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: best pictures of most of our generations. Like he's very, 63 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: very good, and he's up there in the probably i'll 64 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: say top ten, potentially top five, depend on who you are, 65 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: but I think this is about the end of it. 66 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: I wanted nothing to do with him when he's coming 67 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 3: off the IL. I rooted for him, but it's like 68 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to pass on this one and I see 69 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: where it goes. I'm quietly, sadly not surprised by what's 70 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: taking place. Not that I think Peven Smith was going 71 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: to be the guy that put him to his grave, No, 72 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: but I thought something like this could happen. 73 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: It's crazy, Pavid Smith will want much of him later, 74 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: just like one of the games of the season for anybody. 75 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: But Verlander, I don't know what to expect from him 76 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: going forward because he's gonna be forty two years old 77 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: by the start of next season. 78 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: He is as older. 79 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: Than he's older than me. That's just a lot of people. 80 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: That is pretty old. I'm just playing with you. 81 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: I just don't know if we can really trust him 82 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: going to his age forty two season. He is a 83 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: player option. I feel like he's going to pick that 84 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: up because I don't know what kind of deal he's 85 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: going to get on the market. But I can't really 86 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: see myself drafting Verlander unless we're talking about if he 87 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: falls to like the last round and then you say, Okay, 88 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: maybe I'll take a chance on him here, But just 89 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: that name value alone, I feel like he won't fall 90 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: as far as he should given the performances we've seen. 91 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: Any chance you have any interest in Verlander at a 92 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: given price next year or. 93 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Just a full fade. 94 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: I'm just a full fade, like he'd have to be 95 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: post too fifty, like one of your last round picks, 96 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: essentially to keep interest from me. So I'm pretty positive 97 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: I'll be out on the Verlanders show. 98 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the end. 99 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: And of course, like you mentioned, he's one of the 100 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: best pitchers of the generation. 101 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: He's going to the Hall of Fame. 102 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Its just it's sad to see it kind of go 103 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: out like this. I always figured he would end with 104 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: like a two to seven era and come third and 105 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: sy Young like a David Ortiz type of sendoff a year. 106 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't know why I figured that would be what 107 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: would happen for Verlander, but it doesn't look like we're 108 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: going to get that. He's kind of just stuck around 109 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: for a little bit too long at this point. Forty 110 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: two is just you're pushing it if you're still trying 111 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: to be a major league player at forty two. Jamie Moyer, 112 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: he's not coming back through that door anytime soon. Let's 113 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: talk about Julio Rodriguez six hits over the weekend in 114 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: Saint Louis. He's seventeen for his last fifty four over 115 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. That's a three to fifteen 116 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: batting average, three home runs, three stolen bases. It obviously 117 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: hasn't been great. It's been a pretty miserable season as 118 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: a whole for Julio, and yet he's like a top 119 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty player overall. So I've really been 120 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: struggling because as the season goes on, we start to 121 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: think about next year's draft targets, and you know, there's 122 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: been some early drafts that we've broken down already. 123 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: Do you think there's a. 124 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: Chance Julio gets himself back into the first round, Like 125 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: there's a chance he goes twenty two? Funny, in a 126 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: miserable season, we know that he can go thirty thirty, 127 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: if not forty forty. So any chance that Julio gets 128 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: into the top fifteen. 129 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: Next year, Uh, yeah, wouldn't shocked me. He went thirteenth 130 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 3: in our two early DC we did a couple of 131 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: weeks back, so there's still a lot of love for him. 132 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: Never hurts to have a strong finish to the season 133 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: to get people excited. Now, the back end of that 134 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 3: draft is loaded between the end of the first round 135 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 3: early second round. I think there's a lot of moving 136 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: pieces there that'll change from draft to draft, but a 137 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 3: strong finish from Julio will remind people of how talented 138 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: he really is. I think he might have been hurt 139 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: quite a bit this season, more than let on because 140 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: he you know, he had the little il stint and 141 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: everything came back quicker than most expected, so on and 142 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: so forth. You know, maybe he's healthy, maybe he's not. 143 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: But the finish is strong, so I think he'll find 144 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 3: his way back into the first round. 145 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: The power hasn't really I mean, fourteen home runs the 146 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: whole season, but a part of I think the struggle 147 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: in terms of the overall stat line has also been 148 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 2: just how bad the team has been around him. Forty 149 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: nine REBI, sixty runs scored. Yes, part of that is 150 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: on Julio, but the Mariners have been historically bad and 151 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: that definitely has not helped things out. I feel like, 152 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: if he's still sitting there at the beginning of the 153 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: second round, if I con pair him with like a Tattis, 154 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: a Carrol, maybe a Tucker, I feel like I'm gonna 155 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: do it. I just don't know if I really want 156 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: to take that chance of letting him slip by, because 157 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: we know that he's capable of giving you a top 158 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: five season, and slowly but surely he is kind of 159 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 2: getting back that we have seen old Julio at times 160 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 2: this year. But yeah, fourteen homers, twenty one steals, two 161 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: sixty two. I wouldn't fault anybody for not wanting to 162 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: take him in the first round, but we're kind of 163 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: getting back to there, especially if he finishes really hot. 164 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 2: I could see him getting there on a consistent basis. 165 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 2: Let's talk Jack Flaherty dominant outing, which has kind of become. 166 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: What we've been used to this season. 167 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: Seven and the third shutout ball with six strikeouts against 168 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: the Guardians Eloud, just four hits for the season as 169 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: a whole. I mean, Jack Flarerty has done some amazing things, 170 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: and I want to shout out your co host Ryan Bloomfield, 171 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: who was one of the people I heard speaking loudest 172 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: about Jack Flarerty in the preseason. A two eighty six 173 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: c ra a one zero one whip. He is second 174 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: among all qualified starters in strike up minus walk rate 175 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: it's second in Sierra. I don't know what to do 176 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: with him for next season though, because we've seen two 177 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: good years from Flarity out of like seven. Are you 178 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 2: gonna trust him heading in the next year, because I 179 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: think at this point, like obviously somebody I trust implicitly 180 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: this season, but once the year changes over, you never 181 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: really know what's gonna happen. If they're a six month layoff. 182 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: Is Flerity somebody that can be trusted as an SP 183 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: one or an SP two next season? 184 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: You think? I think as an SP two potentially. I'm 185 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: terrified of SP one with him. He's got quite the 186 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: injury history, like there's no denying that, and even the 187 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: back was an issue off and on this season, so 188 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: there are some of those lingering concerns. We've seen him 189 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: pitch really well before when he's been healthy with the Cardinals. 190 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: We've also seen the opposite side of that spectrum, which 191 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: we could probably get at any moment. So and the 192 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: free agent where's he gonna land? That's a big piece 193 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: of the puzzle as well. I think you could draft 194 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: him as an SP two, like in a perfect roll, 195 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: I'd like SP three. He won't be there as an 196 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: SP three. He'll be gone before that. So if you're 197 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: a even what he's doing, which this is who he 198 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: can be. If he stays healthy, there's no denying that, 199 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: then he is worthy of an SP two. It's just 200 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: there is a lot of risk with one of your 201 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: top end fantasy pitchers if you take the chance. 202 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, location is gonna be big. If he goes back 203 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: to the Dodgers, that'll obviously be probably the best case. 204 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: I'd hate it. I'd hate it, so yeah, go for it. 205 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: That was a Giants fan. 206 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: If you guys, we're aware, but that statement probably does 207 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: make you aware of it. I don't know if I'm 208 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: gonna want to, Like I've been a huge fan of his, 209 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: but I don't know if I really want to touch 210 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: him where he's probably gonna be going, which is top fifty, 211 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: top seventy five picks overall. Probably, I just it makes 212 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: me nervous, it really does. I feel like I'm probably 213 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: gonna do it once or twice. Because we are volume players, 214 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: Bubba and I, we're gonna probably do how many teams 215 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: you have this year twenty or so, fifteen. 216 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: Twenty, it's like twenty's gonna go with that To keep 217 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: his seat twentieth. 218 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: So we'll have one or two shares maybe, but. 219 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: Oh I will have some flairity, Yes you are, yeah, 220 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 3: I will. 221 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: Just investing consistently. 222 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: As an SP one SP two, You're gonna need some 223 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 2: security around him. You're gonna need a Logan web but 224 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: George Kirby or somebody who can really eat a lot 225 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: of innings, And that's a pretty sure thing if you 226 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: are going to take that chance pretty early on Flarty. 227 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 2: Moving on to Michael Waka, who I mean, this is 228 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 2: the third straight year, but but where he's been really, 229 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: really good. It was seven innings of shutout Paul yesterday. 230 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: Not a cupcake matchup either. Against the Twins. He struck 231 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: out seven, allowed just four hits, three point thirty four 232 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: ERA one eighteen whip. Considering where people drafted him, he's 233 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: a huge, huge. 234 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: Win this season. 235 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: Is he somebody now that like, after three straight years 236 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: of roughly a three and a half ERA, can we 237 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: say that Waka's trustable as like an SP three and 238 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 2: SP four. The numbers below the surface are not great. 239 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: That's why I kind of questioned it. The strikeouts aren't amazing, 240 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: The eer estimators leave something to be desired. How much 241 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: do you trust Michael Waka going forward? 242 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: I trust him quite a bit. Talked about him on 243 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: the First Pitch Pod last night that this start was amazing. 244 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 3: It's just the consistency he brings. You mentioned three straight years. 245 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 3: I thought the dude was like Adam Wayne Wright's age. 246 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 3: He's thirty three years old. He's not even that old yet. Like, 247 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: there's a lot to be had with Waka. And one 248 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: thing I found very very impressive to me, just to 249 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: give the big example of his consistency of late, he 250 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: has allowed three year in runs or less in nineteen 251 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 3: of his last twenty starts. That is like something you 252 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: can just trust. Now it's ninety nine k's and one 253 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: hundred and thirteen and eight and so yeah, it's still 254 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: not bad. That's not bad, but it's not like the 255 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: k Perandian type guys are better that you want. At 256 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: the same time, man, if you could if your first 257 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 3: two pitchers are just like Wheeler and like Cease or 258 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: something that strikes out everybody, and then you bring this 259 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: this ratio machine behind you that's actually getting wins also 260 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: because he's pitching deep into games like and I could 261 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: have probably gone farther there's probably like twenty seven or 262 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 3: like twenty nine starts or something, but nineteen of his 263 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: last twenty three year rounds or less. That is a 264 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: model of consistency that should not be ignored. And I 265 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: just want to give him his props, and I'm glad 266 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: he's on the outline today because a lot of us 267 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: I think, just look at him, go it's walk he's boring, 268 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: which he is. He's very boring, there's no denying that. 269 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 3: But when it comes to fantasy, boring can be beautiful, 270 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 3: and this is very beautiful. 271 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes we get caught up in the hot new 272 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 2: toy always. You know, I gotta take this guy in 273 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: the second round, and he's gonna win my. 274 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: League or whatever. 275 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: A lot of us it is those boring players, you know, 276 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: Seth Lugo and another guy who was a boring guy 277 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: coming of the year. He's gonna win a lot of 278 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 2: leagues just because of you know, that late price really 279 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 2: returning great value. And it's the same thing with Waka. 280 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: It's not always the guys that get pushed up that 281 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: win your leagues, right. Sometimes it's a lot of the 282 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: time it's those guys going between one hundred and pick 283 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: two hundred or so even later that can really return 284 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: this crazy value like Waka hasn't. I feel like going 285 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: in the next year, he'll kind of be a fade again. 286 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: People are gonna just do what I did. You say, Okay, 287 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: the strikeouts aren't great. You know, the ex fips and 288 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: seers of the world are all right, but they're not amazing. 289 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: And he might be somebody where you can get him 290 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: at a bit of a discount and, like Bubba said, 291 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: pretty safe in terms of the ratios if you've got 292 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: your strikeouts squared away. Speaking of strikeout squared away, let's 293 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: talk to Edward Cabrera. Seven innings against the Phillies yesterday, 294 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: six strikeouts. I don't know what to make of Edward 295 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: Cabrera as usual, because we see starts like this against 296 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: a team like the Phillies, but we also see hot 297 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 2: garbage from him a lot of the time, and the 298 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: inconsistency is really what makes him almost impossible to use. 299 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: I've always been a big fan of Verrier Cabrera. There's 300 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: been some positive signs this season, but is there any 301 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: way we can trust him at this point? I feel 302 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: like I want to see that command get a lot better. 303 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on Edwarg Cabrera going forward, Bubba. 304 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 3: This is the problem with him is the talent is undeniable, 305 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: the consistency is not the command is not. Well. What 306 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: we saw on this start was it one walk, two 307 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: walks something like that over seven innings. The last four 308 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: starts has been three and runs or less for Edrick 309 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: Cabrera with like twenty k's over twenty three innings, but 310 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: eight walks. So pick your poison there. But we have 311 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: seen signs of life of late. It's one of those guys. 312 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: It's worth gambling on late in drafts if you want 313 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 3: to streams or like. He always looks to be a 314 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: good stream. But the headache is there because the the 315 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: you know, the opposite side can take place, as we've seen, 316 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 3: but the talent's on the niabil And so when we 317 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: see this kind of stuff, it reels you back in 318 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: every time. I'll still be interested, I'll have a few shares, 319 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: but it's just one of those things like because if 320 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: he ever figures it out command wise, dude's gonna be ridiculous. 321 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 3: It's just we haven't seen that yet. 322 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: He could have like a Dylan Seas type of curve 323 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: potentially where you see these thirty and ten guys thirty 324 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: percent strikeout rate, ten percent walk grade or the talent's 325 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: there and it's just a matter of figuring out that command. 326 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: And I feel like he could reach those kind of 327 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: Dylancy's levels if you had a seven or eight percent 328 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: walk grade. But that's asking a lot at this point 329 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: in time. 330 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: Still going to be interested. 331 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 2: I'll always be interested in Edward Cabrera because he's just 332 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: one of those guys for me. 333 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of like Tyler McGill. I just I don't 334 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: know why. 335 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: There's something about them, certain pitchers that you just kind 336 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: of get interested in. 337 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 1: He's one of them for me. 338 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 2: But the inconsistency is still a problem at this point. 339 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: Let's talk about a couple hitters starting in my neck 340 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: of the woods in Toronto. Spencer Horwoods had a hell 341 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: of a weekend. It went six for seven with three homers, 342 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: four runs scored, and five ribbies. Been the top seventy 343 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: five player over the last month, hitting two seventy eighteen 344 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 2: runs and fourteen RBIs with seven homers. I've really become 345 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: more interested in Spencer Horwitz. I didn't think there was 346 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: all that much there really earlier on. But he gets 347 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: the ball very hard. You know, he's playing most of 348 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: the time. He's usually in the third to fifth spot 349 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: in the Blue Jays order. What's your interest levels of 350 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: season and also heading into next year. Is Horward's gonna 351 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 2: be somebody that you're targeting as a as a middle 352 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: corner infield guy. 353 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: I'm very interested. I know I in DC's I took 354 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: some weight shares of him because we saw the bat 355 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: skills were great. It's just a million dollar question of 356 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: where's he gonna play. I think it is util only 357 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: also and to start the season in NBC. But he's 358 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: getting the playing time. It's looking good. You're the JAS guys. 359 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: That's something that we can expect next year. If that's 360 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: the case, I'm interested as a late round pick at least. 361 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 3: I'm not going to target him as like my starting 362 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 3: first baseman. But he's got corner infield viability. He's a 363 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: good bench bat. I just don't know what the playing 364 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: time looks. 365 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: Like for sure for the Blue Jays. 366 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that any spot on the roster outside 367 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: of first base with lot is really guaranteed to anybody 368 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: next year. 369 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: If our show is going to be around. Kirk's probably 370 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna be around. 371 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lot of playing time, though, and 372 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: considering what Horwitz is done, he can play second, he 373 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: can play first. I mean, he has pretty good play 374 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: skills ten percent walk right, seventeen on the strikeout rate. 375 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: He hits the ball pretty hard. I think he's gonna 376 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: be around. I think he's gonna be somebody that does 377 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 2: have some interest. Plus, after half a season is one 378 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: thirty five, it's a lot better than you'd probably expect. 379 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some interest here. 380 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: You also have to acknowledge that the Blue Jays lineup 381 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: is going to probably be a bit of a dumpster 382 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: fire next season, so counting stat's gonna be a little 383 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: bit tricky. I don't expect many stolen bases, but just 384 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: as a corner to middle infield option that pick two 385 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: fifty or so in the draft, like, he's gonna be 386 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: pretty interesting if he even gets that far, because his 387 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: recent stretch might push him up a little bit. 388 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: One more guy to. 389 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: Talk about here in the headlines, and that's Cedric Mullins. 390 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: He had a home run over the weekend against the 391 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: Rays and it's kind of snuck up on me that 392 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: he's turned the season around over the last month, hitting 393 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: three to zero two with three homers and seven stolen bases. 394 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: As a whole, it's been pretty inconsistent, and I do 395 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: feel like eventually he'll be pushed out of playing time, 396 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: just based on all the youngsters they got to fit 397 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: into the lineup there. But it hasn't been a terrible 398 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: season for Mullins fifteen homers, twenty six stolen bases, only 399 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: hitting two thirty four, But generally speaking, it hasn't been 400 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: a terrible year for him. It's been a better year 401 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: than last year. What are your thoughts heading in the 402 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: next season? Is he going to have a starting, everyday 403 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: role in Baltimore? Are we reaching the point where he 404 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 2: might get pushed out? Are you gonna have any interest 405 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: in drafting him? 406 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: Essentially, I'll probably be out unless he drops quite a 407 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: bit because he was already platuning this year. Feels like 408 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: he's been the odd man out at times, but now 409 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: and then he starts producing again, gets some more reps 410 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: than his struggles, and gets kind of pushed away again. 411 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: I feel like there are enough options in that Oriole 412 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 3: system to move Cedric out of the way. That's kind 413 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: of where I'd be leaning at this point in time. 414 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: So I'd be out on Cedric for now. Unless we 415 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: get some new news that all of a sudden they've 416 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: regained love with Cedric Mullins and he's back back in 417 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: action for him. 418 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: Maybe that price falls pretty far. Maybe we'd hear he's 419 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: getting a regular role. But yeah, I feel like at 420 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: this point the bloom is off the rose. He's not 421 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: the thirty thirty guy he was a couple of years ago. 422 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: He could still have some value, but it would have 423 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: to come at a pretty discounted price, Like if he's 424 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: in the top one hundred and fifty picks or so, 425 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it for talking about like pick two 426 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: hundred or something like that. I could probably be talked 427 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: into it. Let's talk about a couple of rookies in 428 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: the rookie lookie section here. Trey Sweeney, who was one 429 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: of the pieces acquired for Jack Flaherty at the deadline. 430 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: Big Game four for four with a combo meal, a 431 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: couple of runs, couple of ribbies hasn't been so so great, Bubba, 432 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: Is there any interest here for deeper leagues down the 433 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 2: stretch for Trey Sweeney or is something you want to 434 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: just wait for next year. 435 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: On I'm probably waiting un till next year. I've brought 436 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: him up in fab from time to time in deep leagues, 437 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: like you're saying, there are a lot of middle infield 438 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: options that have popped up over the last month or 439 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 3: so that kind of, you know, go over the top 440 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: of Sweeney. But the skills are there. Hit a couple 441 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 3: of home runs over the last week, so that's good 442 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: to see, but the consistency, like you mentioned, has not 443 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: been there. So I'm probably more excited about Sweeney for 444 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, But depending on your format, he is 445 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: going to be viable most likely. 446 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so as well. I kind of undersold 447 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: the Tigers return there. I just think I compared it 448 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: directly with like the Kakuchi package, and it didn't seem 449 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: like they really got enough back considering how good Flairty 450 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: had been. But it looks like they could have a 451 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: couple of decent pieces here, with Sweeney being among them. 452 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: Connor Norby's another guy I want to talk about in 453 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 2: the rookie Lokie. I think he's been more valuable over 454 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: about twenty games than Trevor Rodgers was for the entire season. 455 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: He had three home runs drove in sevengainst the Phillies 456 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 2: over the weekend. As a Marlin, he has one thousand, 457 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: forty three ops six home runs in eighteen games. There 458 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: are some numbers, however, below the surface that aren't really 459 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: that great. Average hes of velocity eighty six miles an hour, 460 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: thirty eight percent hard hit rate. He's striking out thirty 461 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: percent of the time, but he's got a fourteen percent 462 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 2: barrel rate. There are things that I like, but it's 463 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: kind of a mixed package in terms of the analysis 464 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 2: because it's a bad park, it's a bad team. But 465 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: he's looked really, really good. What's your interest level in 466 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: Connor Norby here for the final three weeks and also 467 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: again to kind of keep the theme going and you're 468 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: gonna have any interest heading into twenty twenty five. 469 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: For the final three weeks. I want him everywhere I can. 470 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 3: Very excited about what we're seeing from him. Young player 471 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: getting some run and he seems to get better. Even 472 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: had a slump at one point and we've seen a 473 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: breakout of that. He's got a seven game hitting streak 474 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: starting off Monday here, So that's pretty promising. So I 475 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: am loving that, and in twenty twenty five I want 476 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: him a lot. You know you're gonna join me later 477 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: today on bench with Bubba to kind of talk about 478 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: the early twenty twenty five draft, and Norby wasn't picked ours. 479 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: Actually thinking over the weekend seeing his stat line that 480 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, Norby might be one of my top options 481 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: coming back in the twelfth round and we kick things 482 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: off because I need a second basement, and the fact 483 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: he'll be second base third base, well next year he 484 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 3: might be third base only in NBC. Let's keep in 485 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: mind in that, but for the rest of the season 486 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: here second base, third base. I love Connor Norby, and 487 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 3: this is the guy I'm very excited about going to 488 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: the next season. 489 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: Something else to keep in mind is that for this 490 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: week they're facing a bunch of lefties and he destroys 491 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: left handed pitching. So if you're looking even for just 492 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: a short term hitting stream, Connor Norby is one of 493 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: the top options that you can find still available in 494 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: a lot of leagues too. Just taking a look at Yahoo, 495 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: Norby is on what are we. 496 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: Talking about here? 497 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: Fifty six percent a roster, so bit of a toss up, 498 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: but you'll probably probably confined him if it's a bit 499 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 2: of a shallower format, and I think he is worth 500 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: starting in a lot of cases. Let's go to the 501 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: three up and three down. Pevin Smith we mentioned earlier 502 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 2: one of the games of the season, three home runs, 503 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: eight driven in. If you played him in DFS, or 504 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: if you happen to say, okay, let's just stream Paven 505 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: Smith today, what's the worst that can happen? You did 506 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: very well for yourself. A funny thing that I also 507 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: learned yesterday just going through fangrafts. Of anybody who has 508 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: thrown a pitch this year, Peven Smith has the best stuff. 509 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: Plus at two h six it's because of the obscure 510 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 2: nature of the delivery or something. I'm sure it was 511 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 2: one inning, but yeah, the two way player coming out 512 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,719 Speaker 2: of nowhere is Peven Smith out there in Arizona, stinking 513 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: in Arizona. Janio Suarez four for five with a home run, 514 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 2: four run scored, a couple driven in. He's been incredible, 515 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 2: Like he has gotten to the point where he's like 516 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: a top ninety or eighty player overall for the season. 517 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: After he did essentially nothing for the first half. He's 518 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 2: just been on fire. And then Jared Jones seven innings 519 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 2: of two run ball with nine strikeouts against Washington. He 520 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: looked very very good yesterday, Bubba. Among this group, Peven Smith, Suarez, 521 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: Jared Jones. Any major thoughts rest of season here on 522 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: this group. 523 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: It's Aojuno Swarz for me, like I had him dead 524 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: to rise. I know I was on a loan at 525 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: one point. I'm like Jordan Lawler is about to get 526 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: called up Cannae dfaid, he's been that bad. And then 527 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: Lawler gets hurt yet again, and then Aohanio finds the 528 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: fountain of youth and we thought, okay, it's a couple 529 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: of weeks. It hasn't stopped. Like the dude just mashing everywhere. 530 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: And I'm very thankful I grabbed a couple of shares 531 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: when I could, because it's been beautiful thing to see. 532 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: Man. 533 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 2: I wish I did, I wish I did. He has 534 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: been I mean, the term league winner is thrown around 535 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: a lot. But if you saw Suarez sitting on your 536 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: waiver wire and you picked him up right when this 537 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: was getting going, there's a good chance you're looking pretty good. 538 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: Right now, and you're still listening to the show because 539 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 2: you are still in the hunt. I'm going to the 540 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: three down Caden Dana Angels, rookie pitcher, not good stuff, 541 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: five earned runs and seven hits over one inning, Miles Michaelis. 542 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 2: If you thought about streaming him in against the weak 543 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: Seattle Mariners, your season could be over because of it. 544 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: Two innings, six run ball with nine hits aloud. He 545 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 2: did strike out three for all the good it did you, 546 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: but not good stuff for Michaelis. And then finally Noelvi 547 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: Marte over four with three strikeouts. 548 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: Buba. 549 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of Neelvi Marte, but 550 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: coming off the ped suspension, he's hitting a buck ninety nine, 551 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 2: four homer, six tolen bases. Are we He's starting to 552 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: think that maybe there was some impact of the peds 553 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 2: that now he's feeling without it. I mean, I don't 554 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: want to read too much into it, because he was 555 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 2: such a great prospect from such a young age. I 556 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: don't think that he was juicing in high school necessarily, 557 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: But what's the impact there and what does it mean 558 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: towards your future evaluation of Marte? 559 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: It? 560 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 2: I mean, he's not as shiny of a toy as 561 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: he would have been about a year ago. But are 562 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: we out on him at this point? 563 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a very intriguing value 564 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 3: next season because I think a lot of people are 565 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: going to be out on him. I'm going to kind 566 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: of chalk this one up to a lost season between 567 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: the suspension and everything else. He's young. I don't think 568 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 3: the talent just disappeared. 569 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: Now. 570 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 3: Could it have been steroid involved potentially, Like that's definitely 571 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: an option. But I still think he's a pretty darn 572 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: good ball player. So I think I'm willing to chalk 573 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: this one up to it just a lot going on 574 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 3: in a young man's head for this season and take 575 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: the value of it in twenty twenty five. 576 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: I think you're probably right. 577 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the price is going to be so cheap, especially 578 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: in the casual home league's ESPN YABU leagues. He might 579 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 2: not get drafted a lot of the time last couples. 580 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: I don't mind taking a chance on him in that ballpark, 581 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: a year older, et cetera, et cetera. The things could 582 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: turn around for him, But man, has it been ugly 583 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 2: rest of season? Is there any need to roster gonna 584 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: you think. 585 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: No, No, I dropped him in a lot of places already, 586 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: so I think I think you can wait for twenty 587 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: twenty five when it comes to Newell of you more two. 588 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: That's totally fair. 589 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 2: Let's move on to the injury updates. Finally, finally, Kyle 590 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: Tucker made his return to the Astros lineup after three 591 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: months plus being out. I think it was I think 592 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 2: it ended up being more than three months. It was 593 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: like one hundred plus days he missed. He was daching 594 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: both games over the weekend. Not much to do here 595 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: other than put him back into your lineups and hope 596 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: that he can kind of make up for lost time. 597 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: Not gonna happen all the way, but hopefully he can 598 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 2: hit a few home runs and steal a few bases 599 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: down the stretch for you. Luis Castillo had to leave 600 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: his start early on Sunday due to a hamstring injury. 601 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: He's gonna undergo some testing today, Bubba. What's your early 602 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: concern level here for Luis Castillo? Is he going into 603 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: weekly lineups for you? 604 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: I think he's going to the IL. That's my weekly 605 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: concerned So I think it season's done, essentially, if it 606 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: comes to fantasy and they're just doing the imaging to 607 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: make sure that it's that kind of situation. But leaving 608 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 3: a game hamstring pitcher. We've seen this all season long. 609 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 3: It's at least a minimum fifteen days. 610 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and at that point, I mean fifteen days from 611 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 2: now is the twenty fourth of September, season ends on the. 612 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 3: Till last week in the season ninth, Yeah, it's over. 613 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: May at one start. But I mean, yeah, the Mariners, 614 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean, they're essentially toast at this point. I don't 615 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: think there's really much of a chance for them. Certainly 616 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 2: the division. I think that is pretty much done. 617 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: What is it. 618 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: They're four and a half back in the wild card 619 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 2: they're three and a half, so maybe not fully done, 620 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: but this is definitely a fatal blow for them if 621 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: they have to lose a steal for too long. Although 622 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: pitching is a strength for them, but I don't think 623 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 2: this is going to bow too well going forward for 624 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: the Mariners to alscar Hernandez avoided a serious injury after 625 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: taking Matt Boyd slider off his foot on Friday. All 626 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: scans came back negative, so that is a positive. I 627 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: saw a couple of questions about him in the chat 628 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: looks like he's going to be okay. Maybe we get 629 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: a day off or two, but avoided anything too serious. 630 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: There something interesting, and we hadn't really mentioned him on 631 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: this show, but Trevor Story. He came off of the 632 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: IL over the weekend. He went two for seven in 633 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 2: this first couple of games back. What's your interest level 634 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: with Trevor storre you seeing him on the waiver wire? 635 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 2: Are you picking him up? 636 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 3: Very interested? I talked about him with bubb Or Bloom, 637 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 3: Bubble and Bloom last week and he was playing really 638 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 3: well in rehab. Supposed to come back Friday or Saturday 639 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: and Max Saturday. It looks good. I'd be very, very 640 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 3: intrigued to going forward the rest of the season. 641 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: I wonder if we'll ever see Story get back to 642 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: old Colorado Trevor Story. I kind of doubt it, but 643 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean he can't have value in a top 644 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 2: five lineup in a real hitters park. Could be a 645 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: really interesting piece there for you if you are looking 646 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: for is he just second base eligible at this point 647 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: or is he shortstop eligible? In a lot of cases, 648 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: I think he just shortstop on Yahoo, but he did 649 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: have second base for a while didn't. 650 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 3: He Yeah, I think it's shortstop. Maybe I know he's 651 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: playing shortstop when he came back. Right now, they've moved 652 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: us Den Raphael at a second so it should be 653 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 3: should be shortstop for sure, Maybe a little second base, 654 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 3: depending on your formats. 655 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it was when they had Maybe it was 656 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 2: when Bogarts was there, he had second base eligibility or 657 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 2: something like that. 658 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: Maybe him just I'm just caught in a different year 659 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: at this point. 660 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: Let's shortstop. If he shortstopped only on Yaho, it' pretty 661 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 3: much where he's going to be everywhere else. 662 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, Yeah, that's. 663 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 664 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: Who all you gotta do is, you know, fall over 665 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: second base and they'll give you second base eligibility. Jeff 666 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: McNeil is going to miss the remainder of the season. 667 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 2: We talked about this last week, everybody getting hit by 668 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: pitches and injuries coming all over the place. Jeff McNeil 669 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 2: fractured rist, so he is done for the season. It's 670 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: a shame because he'd actually really turned his year around 671 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: in the second half. He's been a nice play for 672 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: deeper leagues, but not looking great for him at this point. Obviously, 673 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: he's he's done for the year. Gavin Stone also went 674 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 2: on the IL. He was scratch from his start that 675 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: was supposed to happen over the weekend with shoulder inflammation. 676 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: Not good, Bubba. I guess Gavin Stone is probably in 677 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: the same boat as Luis Castillo here, likely done for 678 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 2: the year. 679 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: Yep, you can move on from Gavin Stone. That's for 680 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: darn sure. 681 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: Just looking at the Dodgers IL rotation is actually insane 682 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 2: because all the jokes are usually like, okay, you could 683 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: make you can make a rotation out of who they 684 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: got on the IL. You could make two rotations out 685 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: of who they have on the IL glass Now, Gonsolin Kershot, 686 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: May River, Ryan Emmett, Shean, Gavin Stone, and Yoshinobu Yamamoto 687 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 2: are all on the injury list. 688 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know is. 689 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: There anything I mean, people have talked about how the 690 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: Dodgers can be a little reckless maybe or something, and 691 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 2: they cause these pitching injuries. I haven't dug into that 692 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: at all. Is there any truth to that that the 693 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: Dodgers maybe caused some of these injuries or is that 694 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 2: just nonsense? 695 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: You think? 696 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: I know, Yamamoto coming over from Japan, Kershaw's old glass 697 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: now from Tampa. There are a lot of those guys 698 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 3: that are from their system, though, the Stones, the Sheans, 699 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: the Ryan's like, there's something there, so I don't. There's 700 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: probably a little bit yes, a little bit of no. 701 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: I'm not going to go full accusatory. I think the 702 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: Rays are more to blame for their issues than the 703 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: Dodgers aren't for theirs. But there is something to team 704 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 3: contact with certain injuries, for sure. 705 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: Something I want to dig into. 706 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: But in the off season too is usage, not in 707 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: game usage, but how teams prepare. I think this is 708 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: like an EEno question probably, but like the behind the 709 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: scenes strain that goes into pitching development our team, like 710 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: in terms of how many pitches guys throwing warm ups, 711 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: how many pitches they throw on off days. I feel 712 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 2: like Eno, there's probably an article out there or something, 713 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 2: but it's not just the end game stuff that impacts 714 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 2: a pitcher. Obviously, that's the thing that gets the most 715 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: pressed and we see it, but that's a hundred pitches. 716 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 2: The guy's throwing tons of pitches throughout the week, and 717 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 2: I wonder how much the actual training part of it 718 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: actually impacts what. 719 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: Happens to pitchers. I don't know. 720 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 2: Again, that's probably a question for Eno or somebody a 721 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 2: lot smarter than us, But something I want to dig 722 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: into over the course of the off season a little bit, 723 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: a couple of more pitchers, and then we'll move on. 724 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: Max Scherzer had a great rehab outing. It was for 725 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: scoreless inning, striking out eight. There was some talking with 726 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: pulled with a perfect game or something like that. I 727 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: saw this tweet go out, and it's like, I don't 728 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: think Max Shuzer gives a crap. If he throws a 729 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 2: perfect game in the minors, it would be a footnote 730 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: on his resume at best. He could return this week 731 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: for Texas. At this point, I guess Suresia's going into 732 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: our lineups right when he comes back, because we don't 733 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: have a lot of time. But is he though, Like, 734 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: are you at all concerned about starting Scherzer in his 735 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: first first time back. 736 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: On the mountain. 737 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: Nope. If he's good to go, I'm good to go. 738 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: He could reaggravate it in one pitch. I'm not naive 739 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: to that. But if he's good enough to pitch, I'm 740 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: good enough to take the results he's gonna bring with it. 741 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: So Scherzer will go right back in the lineup. 742 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 2: For me, I think I agree, And the same thing 743 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: can be sad about Jacob deGrom, who we mentioned last week. 744 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: Looks like his season debut is coming at some point 745 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: this week. The Rangers have Arizona and Seattle. I think, 746 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 2: based on everything, we would all prefer that comes against 747 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: Seattle because Arizona has been a great offense. But I mean, 748 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: it's Jacob Degram, right, if he's facing the twenty seven Yankees, 749 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: we're probably putting him in our lineups. 750 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any any case where you wouldn't 751 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: start Jacob Degram right. 752 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: There's there's no situation where you'd want to bench him 753 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: at all. 754 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: No that you'd have to have one heck of a 755 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: pitching staff to not need to start Jacob de Grom 756 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 3: at this point in the season. So yeah, the Grom 757 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 3: it is for me. 758 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: I think there's probably unless it's like like an eight 759 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: team league, like you said, you just have a loaded 760 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: staff and you don't need to take the chance, then 761 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: maybe don't. But I think in most cases here you're 762 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 2: pretty safe putting Jacob the ground back into your lineups. 763 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: Bubba, it's time where. 764 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: We talk about the best bets of the day, again 765 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: presented by our friends over at bet three six five. 766 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: Use that promo code, guys, five bucks gets you one 767 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: hundred and fiftyen bonus bets with that promo code. Leading off, Bubba, 768 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: what do you have for us today on the betting. 769 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: Side, Well, I'm not a big fan small slate, but 770 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: we're attacking Walker Bueler. Folks. I know there's a question 771 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,959 Speaker 3: that chat to ask if we are trusting Bueler. I 772 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: am not. Give me peekrow armstow. I'm over half a 773 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 3: run for plus one sixty five odds. Use that one 774 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 3: last week and it paid off. It's it runs are tough, 775 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: but I think there's some offense to be had here. 776 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: And Cody Bellinger coming back to La over one and 777 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: a half total basis at plus one forty five. Would 778 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: I almost took Cody as my home run call the day, 779 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 3: just for fun, and then we'll stick with chicag I 780 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 3: could go with the White Sox. Take it on Cantijo 781 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: of Cleveland, who is horrible seven plus era. Give me 782 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: lubob over one and a half total basis at plus 783 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: one twenty five coming off a big Sunday game. So 784 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 3: I'll take those three at plus one twenty five or 785 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 3: better odds. 786 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: I like it. Bubba is the plus money man. I'm Friday. 787 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: How did you do on Friday, Bubba? I had a 788 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: bit of a tough Friday. 789 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: I think Friday was one and two or so. It 790 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 3: wasn't a good Friday. Swept Wednesday. Friday wasn't so great. 791 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: Wednesday. We were on fire. Friday. 792 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: I think I was one and two as well. So 793 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 2: we're getting back on the horse today. And that's why 794 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going too crazy with my picks. I'm going 795 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: with some favorites and we're starting off with Paul Skins 796 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: Marlins strikeouts. That's I mean for me, over six and 797 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: a half for Paul Skins against the Marlins feels very 798 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: attainable as long as they don't pull any weird crap 799 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: and pull them after four innings or something like that. 800 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: I think that this is a pretty easy one minus 801 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: one sixty. The books also expected to happen. Look who's 802 00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 2: in the chat though, Ryan Bloomfield. But but the plus 803 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 2: money man, he's gonna have to use that one. So 804 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 2: make sure we're tuning into Bubba bubb in the bloom 805 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: So we can hear Ryan use Bubba's new nickname. My 806 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 2: second bet Kyle Hendricks over two and a half earned runs. 807 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: He's facing the Dodgers, and they said it at two 808 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: and a half. I would have thought this one. When 809 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 2: I went to check, I was like, it's gonna be 810 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: a three and a half. It's going to be too high. 811 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: If Kyle Hendricks doesn't allow three and runs against the Dodgers, 812 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: then there's something wrong with the Dodgers lineup because he 813 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: is beyond cook. There's no need for Kyle Hendricks to 814 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: be pitching at this point. He is simply doing it 815 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: because the Cubs are desperate for starters. With Justin Steele 816 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 2: going down against the Dodgers, I think this is a 817 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,959 Speaker 2: very easy one. And then I mentioned him before Tyler McGill, 818 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 2: and I mean Ryan is another in the chatt if 819 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: he's still there, another Ryan, Tyler McGill guy going back 820 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: for years. 821 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: We've been fans of his. But Vlad mcguerrero over. 822 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: One and a half total bases at plus money still 823 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: feels like a very good bet. Vlad has cooled off 824 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 2: a little bit over the last couple of weeks, and 825 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: that's only been a three thirty five batting average, so 826 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: I think that there's still a very good chance that 827 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: he is able to get a couple of bases tonight 828 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: against Tyler McGill. So just the recap, Paul Skeen's over 829 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: six and a half breakouts, Kyle Hendricks over two and 830 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: a half earned runs, Flat Guerrero over one and a 831 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: half bases, and for Bubba, Peter Armstrong over zero point 832 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: five runs, Luis Robert over one and a half total bases, 833 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 2: and Cody Bellinger also over one and a half total bases. 834 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: All of those are available with our friends at bet 835 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 2: three six five again use that promo code, guys, get 836 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: yourself some free goodies. As we enter into the final 837 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: few weeks of the season, Bubba, one last thing to 838 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 2: do before we sign off today, and that is the 839 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 2: home run call. And I think you've already kind of 840 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: hinted at who you're gonna go with today. 841 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was almost belly bombs, but we're going with 842 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: lou Bob taking Cantillo deep. It's I think it's a 843 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: big day for lou Bob and the White Sox might 844 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: actually they've scored seven runs on Sunday. They might do 845 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: it for the first time. Well, I'm just guessing first 846 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: time all season and back to back games, it should 847 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: be a good game for shutdown. 848 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm going with my most niche home run call of 849 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: the season here. People are gonna laugh at me, but 850 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 2: I'm going with Danny Jansen, and the reason is because 851 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: Danny Jansen destroys left handed pitching. It has been a 852 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 2: bit tough for him recently. But against k Povic, a 853 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 2: guy who has struggled quite a bit throw his first 854 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 2: go around in the big leagues. I know he destroyed 855 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 2: the White Sox last week, Bubba and I could probably 856 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: shut down the White Sox on a given day, So 857 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: I'm not reading too much into that Kid Povich start. 858 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: I am thinking Danny Chanson getting back in the line 859 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 2: up tonight is going to take one over the Green 860 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: Monster against kid Povid. So that is my home run 861 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: call for the day. Bub about any final thoughts here 862 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: before we sign off, No. 863 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: Just good luck to everybody. Saw a lot of Championship 864 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 3: week stuff going on in the chat. If you guys 865 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 3: have any questions, hit me up on Twitter. I'll try 866 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 3: to help you out before your locks and everything. But 867 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 3: other than that, no, my friend I'll actually see you 868 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,839 Speaker 3: in a few hours and we'll do this all over again, 869 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: different format, same bat time, different bat channel. 870 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: If you're not sick of us, then go check us out. 871 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: You'll find the links over Twitter at bad Entrick for Bubba, 872 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 2: at Joel Rico ninety nine for myself, and we'll be 873 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 2: back again on Wednesday. This is a full Joe and 874 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: Bubba week. Like we mentioned earlier, wels we're supposed to 875 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: be on, but football commitments week one and everything that 876 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: does get in the way this time of year, So 877 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of Joe and Bubba going forward. 878 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: If you guys like what you're hearing, please leave a 879 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 2: rating and review on the podcast, subscribe wherever you're listening 880 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: to it is on the youtbe side. On the podcast 881 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 2: side really helps those numbers to stay steady throughout the offseason, 882 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 2: and we aren't going to have Fantasy Baseball content coming 883 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: at you, whether it's well doing Dynasty stuff. I got 884 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: a couple ideas. I'm sure, Baba, we'll do some stuff. 885 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff that's going to be going on, 886 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: so make sure you guys are subscribed. 887 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: But that will do it, guys. For Casey Bubba. I 888 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: am Joel Rico. We will see you on Wednesday. Everybody, 889 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: have yourselves a great day. Thanks for listening to the 890 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: Fantasy Pros Fantasy Baseball podcast. 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