WEBVTT - Weekend Morning Run: A Trans Champ, the N-Word, and Messy Breakups 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.640 Morning Run with Amy and TJ and iHeartRadio Podcast. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:09.119 Hey theo folks, it is Saturday, June seventh. Thank you 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.640 so much for continuing to run with us. We'll taken 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:16.120 a weekend morning run right now. Rose. During the week, 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.079 there are a lot of stories on our morning run 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.279 that get us going, get us worked up, even get 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.200 us arguing, and we don't get to get into it. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:25.520 So this is where we've been doing that. 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:28.720 Yeah, So we are bringing the stories to you this 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.440 weekend from the week that kept us talking or got 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:38.640 us going. And we'll begin with the news. California, the 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:41.680 state of California, was trying to find a compromise. President 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.360 Trump signed an executive order saying, hey, We're going to 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:48.600 cut all federal funding from any sort of athletic organization 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:53.960 that allows transgender athletes to compete in girls' sporting events. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.560 California had a major high school championship track and field, 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.640 and they had a transgender athlete competing and guess what, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:07.319 the transgender athlete one and one big first place in 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.360 two events, second place in the third event. And so 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.080 in order to compromise and to not have federal funds restricted, 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:19.720 they decided to add a girl to the podium, so 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.440 someone who would have won that the transgender athlete took 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:25.640 their place of got to meddle too. It's a very 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:29.119 confusing compromise that actually pissed off a lot of folks. 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:33.800 You made it crystal clear, though in your explanation it 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:36.800 is confusing. As I'll get out. I'll give it to 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.440 your bottom line as a trans girl who won, who 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:44.200 is a state champion in two categories out there in California. Yeah, 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:46.880 Trump warned against this, he would take money. We'll see 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.720 what happens. The problem rose, we got back and forth. 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.000 That was so unsettling. So unsettling about the story is 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:56.720 it feels like nobody won with this rule change. It 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:01.600 felt almost humiliating to all sides to do it this way. 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:06.400 So you're essentially just saying, yes, the trans girl got first, 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.320 so the person she beat who got second gets to 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.160 move up to first. Person, the guy third gets to 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.720 move up to second. Person who got fourth gets to 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.600 move up the third. But who's the actual champion? Who 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.760 does that help that? Who? The trans girl is standing 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.320 there with another girl at the top of the podium 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.760 who won, I beat you, but you get to come 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.200 up here with me, and. 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:32.720 The records reflect that it wasn't the trans girl, it 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.280 was the other girl. And so yeah, no one gets 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.560 to feel good about the metal they got because it 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.400 kind of feels like, did I earn this? Did I 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.760 not earn this? Who is the best? And what's the 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:48.080 right way to go? And I think for most people, 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.760 we don't ever want to discriminate against or discourage people 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:56.320 from participating in athletic competitions. It's part of what makes 0:02:56.560 --> 0:03:00.400 being a kid and growing up exciting and fun. Just 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:03.720 feels awful and icky, because yes, if you're one of 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:05.840 the girls, or you're a parent one of the girls, 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.360 you might be frustrated at the unfairness of the competition 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:12.480 because of the what most people would point to the 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:18.240 biological advantages that the trans girl has over a girl 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.880 who was born a girl. And so that is a 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:26.079 very controversial and difficult conversation to have. And is there 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.600 a good answer? Is there a right way forward? How 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:33.480 else can trans athletes compete? There's so few of them, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.760 as we know in our population, they couldn't actually have 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.520 their own competition because that would be great, except for 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:39.920 who would they be competing against. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:42.640 It's tough we haven't figured it out yet. We have 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.560 to figure it out, but this just felt like a 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.280 mess of a way to try to deal with it. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.280 And sure enough she qualified and went out there and 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.600 won two state championships. She came in third place in 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:54.360 one event. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:57.960 The law thought it was the second place. She came 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.240 in second place, game and second. 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:04.400 So one cisgender girl beat her out, but beat her 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.360 out by just a little bit. They were approaching state 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.520 records that Marion Jones broke when she was in high school. 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.640 So what I'm saying is this transathlete, yes, got second, 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.560 but still did so well that almost competing with one 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.200 of the greatest track athletes we've ever known in this country. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:26.560 So I started thinking when you told me that tidbit 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:33.279 that what if a trans girl beats an Olympic athlete 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.720 or someone who is a storied female competitor like Marion Jones? 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.080 Will Will that be okay to have a trans girl 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.080 beat someone like Marion Jones record? Is that fair to compare? 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:48.080 Is that fair for then that trans girl to have 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.640 that record over a biological female or a female who 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.400 was born I don't even know how to say it 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.119 not to offend anyone, but this is a tough cist gender. 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:58.800 I think this is what we're supposed to go with. Now, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.800 what is it cis to person? That's what you're born 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.200 sis gender girls, this gender girl and born. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.040 But I think that is another huge issue. And then 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.080 you start taking Okay, we're doing it state by state, 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:13.760 but in international competitions, the Olympics, et cetera. You say, 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.600 there's actually a system in place where you have to 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.440 take some sort of a blood test and if you 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.440 have enough estrogen or enough hormones of a female, you 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:23.560 can be considered a female. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.560 You have to show how long you've gone through this process. 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:28.120 You have to show some say you have to have 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.120 gone through for a year or two years. But the 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.279 rules aren't uniform all over the world, so we just 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:33.080 haven't figured out. 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:36.760 But the reality is this, would you not say that 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.440 most people would agree and it would be hard to 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.159 argue against that a trans girl who was not born 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:50.000 a female has a physical advantage in almost every case. 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.240 I mean, certainly there are exceptions to the rule, but 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.960 generally speaking, there's a reason why men don't compete against 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.919 women because women do not have a physical advantage. Period. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.760 It is happening incount for you where that governor has 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.640 come out recently and said that he believes it's unfair. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.839 He's breaking with some in his own party and some 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.440 progressives in his own party by saying that. But he 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.919 said it is unfair for trans girls to be competing 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.039 in girls' sports. 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.279 And I think it's okay to say this because I 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.440 know you know. Look, I'm a parent of girls, you're 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:22.159 a parent of girls. We have friends who we love 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.760 and know who have trans children. So this isn't something 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.520 that is foreign or unusual to us in any way, 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.240 and in fact, even in an intimate way. But I 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.360 think that you can be supportive of trans rights and 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:39.080 supportive of some of the and and at and angered 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.080 about some of the rights that are being taken away 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.760 from them, and still believe that there is a physical 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.760 advantage and it is unfair to other girls to have 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.039 them competing against people who were born with a physical advantage. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.719 I think that you can have both thoughts and still 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.279 be supportive of trans rights. It's just a sticky, tough 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.680 situation because no one wants to alienate anyone or make 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:04.039 anyone feel left out. Everyone wants to belong, and yet 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.320 you still have to have a system in place for fairness. 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.520 Right. Another story that got us going this week and 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:12.320 really got us going. The military has renamed a ship. 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:15.960 Shouldn't be a big deal, I suppose, But it was 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.560 what name they took off the ship and when they 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:20.920 did it that was a big deal. It was the 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:25.280 us NS the US naval ship Harvey Milk, named after 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:30.600 the civil rights gay rights leader. They took the name 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:34.280 off the ship. Robes, that's one thing they said. It 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:39.480 was part of kind of a let's whole dei anti 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.400 dei afying of the military since Trump got back into office. 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.880 This is a part of that. But Robe, it was 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.880 the timing of when they did it, and then it 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.360 was coming back and saying we did that on purpose. Yeah. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:58.400 Defense official absolutely said this timing was intentional. When Defense 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:02.760 Secretary Pete Hegzeff announced that they were removing Harvey Milk's 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:07.200 name from that ship right at the beginning of Pride month. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.360 June is Pride month, and it was just an extra 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.840 gut punch, I think to folks who have been fighting 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.320 so hard for inclusiveness. It was mean. It was mean spirited. 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:19.360 It was almost like ha ha ha ha ha, and 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.440 this you know, Harvey milk. If you're not familiar, he 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.880 is one of the most yes and if you ever 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.920 Sean Penn portrayed him in the movie. This is a 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:35.280 man who was of service, was in the Navy. His 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.120 parents served in the Navy, but he was threatened with 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:42.080 the court martial because of his sexual orientation. He had 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:45.200 to leave the military because he was gay. And once 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:47.400 he finally got elected, one of the first openly gay 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.800 men to be elected to office, he was serving on 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.400 the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, he was assassinated a 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:56.040 year later. So this is somebody who gave his life 0:08:56.760 --> 0:09:00.840 for who he was, and not willingly, but is someone 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.720 who has been honored and revered and studied and we 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.600 don't ever want to go back to those times and 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.840 repeat that. And yet this just to take his name 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:13.160 and to remove it from nable Ship is just unnecessary 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.400 and cruel. And with everything that's going on in the world, 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:20.559 do we really just want to continue to divide one 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:23.080 another here and say us versus them? 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.839 And I hate that cast. Let's say they wanted to 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.080 do it and they did it in August, people would 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.280 take issue with it. They shouldn't have done it, fine, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:37.560 but to do it, and you're telling an entire community that, 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.720 in this month that is so important to you, we're 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.280 actually going to insult you. We're actually going to punch you, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:50.200 We actually are trying to inflict harm on a move 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.640 we already know you're not gonna like we are now 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.400 intend that is unbelievable. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:10:00.000 You likened it too, and asked because they have also said, hey, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.000 there are some other ship names that are want up 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.000 to be removed as well, including Thurgood Marshal, the first 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.199 black Supreme Court Justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg. 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:12.320 Can you stay with third Good Marshal Force second February one, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:16.080 tell us you're going to rename stuff like that. 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.040 The beginning of Black History Month. Go ahead and say 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:20.800 we're going to start removing names of black civil rights 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:21.880 leaders and pioneers. 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.840 So try this on February one. There's a USNS John Lewis, Okay, 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.960 February one, make that announcement. Why why would you do 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.439 that unless you're trying to give a big f you 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.440 to the black community. I would take it as such. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.160 I wouldn't like it if you took it off in 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.640 September or December. But if you do know February one, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.800 what are you trying to say to a group collectly? 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.240 This blows my mind. There are a lot of things, 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:51.520 but this to be that that obviously and embracing how 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:52.320 mean we are trying? 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.280 Yes, yes, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg same thing. Let's do 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.000 it at the beginning of Women's History Month. I mean, 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.600 it's just you could get think about that and think 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.920 about how that would make you feel with whatever community 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.280 you identify with. It is an extra like it's like 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.920 they're spitting in your face and it's just unkind and 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.600 unfair and unnecessary. 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.240 That one really got us talking. You know that, it 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:27.800 got us worked up. If you can't tell Love Island 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.640 and the inward, you might know the story by now. 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.280 But yeah, Rose, the show too much much anticipation, finally 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:41.520 launched this week and on episode two, one of the 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.440 hotties in the villa was already gone and there wasn't 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.000 much fanfair and we didn't know why if you were 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:48.480 just watching the show. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.480 When you said not much fanfair, that was almost an 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:56.400 understatement because there's a cheeky narrator with a British accent, who, look, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.280 we watched Love Island. I think if anyone listens to 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.520 this podcast. You know, we're kind of obsessed with reality. 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:03.160 For the record, she forces me to watch. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:08.600 Yeah, it's really hard. Yeah, I should be charged with coercion. Yes, no, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.280 you are, you are okay, you're right. Sorry, I shouldn't 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.520 go there. You are a willing participant. In fact, I 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:16.960 believe it was last night that we were catching up 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.800 on Love Island. But in the second episode, at the beginning, 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.560 the cheeky narrator says this and only this, Ulyssa has 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.520 left the villa, and then moves on there is no 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.880 other commentary, and we've been watching. We actually went back 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:31.840 watched the first episode heading into the second one now 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.600 and look, this is a very diverse group. I'm curious 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.199 what they even think because this all blindsided them. Were 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.480 there was chatter before she got on, because people found 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:48.040 these podcasts that this particular contestant was on. How long 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.920 ago were these podcasts, you know, I don't have the years, 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.280 I don't know, but fairly recently. She goes on podcasts 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:59.400 and very casually and very comfortably starts dropping the N 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.880 word when she is being recorded with the microphone for 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.320 a podcast that she knows is going to be broadcast 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.600 or at least disseminated and seem to have zero concern 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:15.640 that Ulyssa herself could say this and knowing she is 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:19.880 not black, She's Hispanic, but she is not black. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:24.480 But she is very comfortable using the in words incredibly comfortable. Something. 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:25.559 Is that shocking to you. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.760 I have known folks before who have been around a 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:31.560 lot of black people and maybe hear black folks talk 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:34.320 to each other in this way and sometimes get comfortable 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.400 enough in that environment where they get permission to use 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:37.920 it from. 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.160 Me, ken, can a black person say it sounds like 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:42.880 she was dating a black man for a long time. 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:44.600 She had like an eight year relationship I believe she 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.800 talked about and when you hear what she said, it 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:51.720 was seemingly referring back to him. Can a black man 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.960 give permission to a white girl, a Hispanic girl, anyway, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.080 anyone who's non black, to use the word no. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.920 The answer is no. Now, permission in a clothes setting 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:05.960 is just the two of us, the three of us 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.680 a certain group is one thing. You shouldn't do that either, 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.800 because if word gets out that you're permitting this, you 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.760 might be in trouble with your community. But what I'm 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:18.280 saying is there's nobody who can give any person outside 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.920 of the black community permission to use the word publicly. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:28.200 Nobody gets that permission. You can't. You're gonna have to 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.480 ask every black person in America if it's okay, and 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.920 we're not gonna give that permission. So this is it 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.720 was so casual in how she said it. She didn't 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.920 miss a beat or think she said anything wrong, and 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:41.120 knew this was public. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:46.600 She just it's remarkable to me that someone that young 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.360 would feel so free to do it, because aren't those 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.280 young folks also woke and they know what to say 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.000 and what not to say. And you can't say this, 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.680 and you can't say that. Things that we could say 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:59.800 as kids, you can't say anymore referring to other certain 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.680 time types of the population, whether whether you're whether you're gay, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:08.800 or whether you have you know, cognitive issues. There were 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.800 things that we said as kids that you absolutely cannot say. 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:12.400 And we know that. 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:16.720 But you've commented now. I believe that also these kids 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.520 these days, they got so many options, they got so 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.120 much social media, they got so much, so many podcasts 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.440 and so much How do you stand out? How do 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.360 you speak or I'm going to be myself I am 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.360 going to do. Look, there's another way I saw her 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:32.520 as someone like, nobody's going to tell me what to do. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.080 I make my own rules. She's comfortable in this setting, 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.880 and she just started. She reverted to who she probably 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:39.440 truly is. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.600 How do you feel, as a black man to hear 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:43.840 this girl say that? 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:44.840 I don't know the way she said it. 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:45.400 No, I don't care. 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:47.920 I don't think she should. I don't get worked up 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.680 about people saying the N word. As soon as it 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.360 comes out of your mouth, we are done, because it 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.760 means you're just moronic. I mean, I can't have a 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.080 conversation with you. I don't get upset or worked up. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.280 I've been yelled and called the N word plenty times 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:05.440 in my life, barely flinched. Just it doesn't work me 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.360 up like that. And there's a lot of black folks 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:10.880 it doesn't like you. Just really, that's all you got 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.560 after two hundred and fifty years, this is the best 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:16.440 you could come up with. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:20.480 Still, But is it surprising to you that that people 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.760 who aren't black still need to be reminded that that 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.480 is a forbidden word. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.080 Nobody needs to be reminded if they're using it. They're 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.440 using it intentionally, and you know it shouldn't be used. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.560 This is silly, This is this is a non issue, 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.640 and if there's anybody out there arguing what black people 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.880 say it, I should be able to say it. Then 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.880 you ask yourself, why do you want to say the 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.600 N words so much? Why do you want permission? Why 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:44.840 is it so important to you? Now? 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.400 Almost like they're trying to be black, like to be 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.640 a part of the community. They think they are a 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.120 part of the community, and that's highly offensive. 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.200 Yeah, because you can always go back to the safety 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.600 of your other community. I can't leave this black skin 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:01.280 at home. But yeah, you don't want to do the quote. 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.720 I guess I'll have to read the quote. Yes, please, 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.320 we will tell you what exactly what she said to 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:08.240 wrap it up here, just so you know what we're 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.520 talking about. The second reference, I'll do the second one. 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.359 Here she's talking about relationships, talking about some dudes U 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:20.320 was dating, and she quotes, are you efing my inward? Perfect? 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:25.680 That's it, But now I'm efing my in word. He's 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:30.399 my in word? Is what she said. Didn't miss a beat, 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.720 so she just reeled it off and it's not like 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.760 a slip and oh, I can't believe I. 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.040 Said that, also talking about her boyfriend like he was 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.640 a piece of property to be owned. So I feel 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.200 like that was an extra dig and reference to things 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:44.640 we should not be. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:48.280 Talking, you know what. The other thing, there's no reference 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.760 to it on the show, and there might never be 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:54.840 one for this reason. They all have been in that 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.800 villa for a little while doing some pre production stuff, 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.840 so they've been off the grid. All their phones have 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:00.359 been taken. 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:02.000 Yeah, they don't have access to. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.920 The producers aren't telling them and they have no idea. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.480 Because they're in Fiji right now shooting it. Because if 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.600 this is a week two weeks show, so basically, if 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.120 you're a fan of the show, you can call in 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.439 and you can vote on who your favorite couple is. 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.439 You can actually contribute to who gets voted off or not. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:21.000 So this is in real time. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.400 It's possible they have no idea what's going on. It's 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:29.240 possible she had no idea until she came out, because 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.680 there were reports of like friends of hers have been 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.800 online frantically responding on social media trying to defend her. 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.320 It's not working and it's not going away. 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.639 I wait to hear from her, but let's end with 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.320 one other future this week. Okay, people you know by 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.399 now Trump and Elon broke up. There's a bunch of 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:52.399 billionaire bickering. But they went back and forth on social media, 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.800 with Trump saying he was wearing thin. I'm very disappointed 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:59.320 he was not in favor of my bill. And now 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:03.640 Elon has gone pretty much nuclear, accused Trump of being 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.359 in the Epstein files and said that's why we haven't 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.840 seen them, and a whole bunch of other jaw dropping stuff. 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.040 But it got us to thinking. Roll this stuff got 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:14.159 nasty and personal and quick. 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:16.160 Man, it heated up fast. 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:17.800 It was a matter of hours this was over. 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:21.399 They were back and forth, just eviscerating each other on 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.879 social media for all to see. It's one thing if 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.040 you're texting someone back and forth, but man, this was 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:32.159 a public display of it was so this is the 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:36.000 biggest feud, the biggest battle I have ever seen between 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.280 two people that I can recall. 0:19:38.400 --> 0:19:39.840 We got to be missing in history. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.560 Well it got us thinking. You actually asked, like, what 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:47.159 other feuds can you think of? What other public breakups, divorces, 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.840 just battles have escalated. And I looked it up these 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.000 celebrity battle and it's actually quite funny. But truthfully, I 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:55.679 don't think any of these rise to the level of 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.840 what we saw yesterday. The number one that you see 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.040 pop up is Kanye weston Taylor Swift. 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.639 Okay, I don't really because she never got into a 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:06.040 nasty back and forth with him. 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.440 They had some lyrics back and forth referencing one another, 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:12.760 or was it mostly Kanye references? It was Taylor. She 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.439 was actually already like, yeah, I'm good. I'm pretty much 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.760 good with my swifties and my like mega hits and 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:20.520 my platinum albums and I'm fine. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.600 But the moment on stage is pretty awful when he 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.840 jumped up there and took her, so I guess maybe 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:26.200 they were. 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.600 Speaking of jumping up on stage. Another one referenced Will 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:32.679 Smith and Chris Rock, but Chris Rock was was was 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:33.879 the hero in that, but. 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:35.880 He came a public view when he did his stand 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.040 up and he took some shots back. But okay, I 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:39.680 wouldn't have put that one up there, But okay. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.879 That's up there. They have. There's some fun got violent 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.160 that one that one. Actually guess that one turned physical, 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:51.360 so there is that they go back. They have Britney 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.920 Spears and Christina Aguilera. That was so long ago. I 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:54.800 don't really remember that. 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:56.719 I thought that was kind of a musical. 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:58.320