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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the s WBC Mortgage Bedroom again for another episode
Speaker 1: of your favorite podcast on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. It
Speaker 1: is Hanging with the Boys. Shanny Gross, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly,
Speaker 1: Nate Newton. How he doing, fellas good man, good friend?
Speaker 1: It's goods Monday, baby. How was Let's go around the horn?
Speaker 1: How do we? How did we all? How did we
Speaker 1: spend Easter? What did you What did you guys do?
Speaker 1: What did you do? Kurt? You know, it wasn't a
Speaker 1: whole lot different, to be honest. I mean, we had
Speaker 1: a nice dinner with the family here, but otherwise it
Speaker 1: was a little bit more laid back and not quite
Speaker 1: the I guess celebration it normally is. Yeah, what about you,
Speaker 1: Nate oh Man? Just uh did you church for a
Speaker 1: couple hours? You know? Virtually through this m well, upsite
Speaker 1: zoom and got out. You know, my wife needs to
Speaker 1: go to the store. So we got out and drove
Speaker 1: around just periodically. Man, then come back home and you
Speaker 1: know we got this ung these games that we played
Speaker 1: in the house, so oh man, yeah, it's pretty good. Chanlenge.
Speaker 1: Just I'm trying to do us right, man, and see
Speaker 1: how long it's you know, maybe we can get some
Speaker 1: real amaz on. How long this thing going going vast? Yeah? Yeah, Jesse,
Speaker 1: what did you do this weekend? Not? Man, just saw
Speaker 1: just relax man and cook some breakfast yesterday morning and
Speaker 1: we had church service via the web and then m
Speaker 1: leftover lasagna. So we just we just laid low, kicked
Speaker 1: a man and I ain't do too much nothing. How
Speaker 1: about you shall just ate some good food, laid around
Speaker 1: the house, played some some board games, and uh, it's
Speaker 1: about it, man, Just Groundhog day. This is basically if
Speaker 1: any if anyone wants to know what training camp is, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're doing right now, day to day. This is training camp.
Speaker 1: You get up, you do the exact same thing. You're
Speaker 1: in the same place. You can't really leave. You don't
Speaker 1: know what day it is, You don't care what day
Speaker 1: it is because it doesn't matter what day it is.
Speaker 1: If it's Monday, if it's Saturday, it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: So this is this is what about Week two of
Speaker 1: training camp feels like it's just you're basically rolling out
Speaker 1: of bed and just your body and your mind just
Speaker 1: take over because every day is exactly the same. So
Speaker 1: so yeah, so that's that's where we're at. We'll good
Speaker 1: to hear all you guys are good. Everybody's still healthy.
Speaker 1: Everybody's still doing good. Still strong, baby, Yeah, so far,
Speaker 1: so good. All right, good deal. Um, your energy is
Speaker 1: way up today, man, mine? Yeah? Oh am, i am?
Speaker 1: I am? I a little too low? Yeah, you come on, man,
Speaker 1: it's Monday. People listen, man, it's monday. People need us.
Speaker 1: People look to us. People come to us. Man, we
Speaker 1: we we gotta get this energy up. Man, we we
Speaker 1: we we are listen to fellow. Okay, let let me
Speaker 1: take this thing on. We need some energy. Hit this
Speaker 1: for it. People look to us as a way to
Speaker 1: get away from this craziness. They look at us and say, listen, man,
Speaker 1: I'm hanging with the boys for about an hour. I'm
Speaker 1: getting my mind off the craziness. I'm getting my mind off.
Speaker 1: Someone may have lost a job, someone may be sick.
Speaker 1: Someone is looking to us for enjoyment, for happiness, for energy,
Speaker 1: for enthusiasm. So let's find it, fellas. Let's bring it
Speaker 1: this Monday morning. Man. Let's give the people what they're
Speaker 1: used to. Let's bring it. Hang it with the boys style, man,
Speaker 1: Come on, let's go. Man. We are blessed U be here. Jesse, Jesse, Jesse.
Speaker 1: You sound good, Jesse. But I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: just my mind link or whatever, but you we got
Speaker 1: every other words, so we gotta be happy. What did
Speaker 1: what did? What? All? You need to already need to
Speaker 1: hear about it? You know, we know you were happy.
Speaker 1: We know we got half of what being pumped up about.
Speaker 1: All you don't know about being pumped and being happy. Okay,
Speaker 1: something going on with you, Mike, So we gotta figure
Speaker 1: that out. So maybe, yeah, we'll see what's going on.
Speaker 1: So they you want to know if we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about anything football related? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Because you know,
Speaker 1: because I changed my mind on a whole lot of
Speaker 1: of things. I hate all because I go into deep
Speaker 1: thought because I changed my mind on a whole lot
Speaker 1: of things, and mainly this quarterback thing. Okay, why, well,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm trying to say is, you know,
Speaker 1: I've been on a couple of shows, I've listened to
Speaker 1: people talk and last week, for some reason, should we
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback? You know, in the later rounds? And
Speaker 1: I'm and I got to thinking, you know, I got
Speaker 1: to thinking. I guess part of Jesse got into me,
Speaker 1: the voice of reason. Why do we need to be
Speaker 1: trying to sign a quarterback when we have no defense
Speaker 1: at all? That why would we waste a third, I
Speaker 1: mean a fourth, a fifth or sixth round pick when
Speaker 1: we need to be going to the bottom of the
Speaker 1: barrel to get defensive players in in every way we can.
Speaker 1: So why should we worry about a quarterback? We got
Speaker 1: a guy we just chendered two million dollars. We've been
Speaker 1: to pay another guy eighty five hundred million dollars. What
Speaker 1: in the world is we talking about trying to get
Speaker 1: another fifty thousand to somebody else, Get this to somebody
Speaker 1: that can can actually get on the field. Agree or disagree,
Speaker 1: I agree hundred percent. I don't know why they spend
Speaker 1: to pick on a quarterback you already got at all,
Speaker 1: it's got locked up, or you'll have him locked up,
Speaker 1: and then you've got you know, you've got a young
Speaker 1: developmental guy. I mean, I would think that they brought
Speaker 1: in a backup quarterback, it'd be a veteran with a
Speaker 1: little more experience. I don't know why they spend to
Speaker 1: pick on a quarterback. Thank you. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about that, Jesse? I'm I always take things. I always
Speaker 1: take things with a grain of salt, because you know,
Speaker 1: we live in a day in time now where everybody
Speaker 1: can post a mock drift and everybody has an opportunity
Speaker 1: to say something. Everybody can post their thoughts and some
Speaker 1: people just to me, and I'm not trying to criticize
Speaker 1: or critique anyone seriously, but there's some people that just
Speaker 1: should not be allowed to say certain things on certain matters.
Speaker 1: And I know people are trying to get clicks and
Speaker 1: trying to get buzz and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. We live in this day in
Speaker 1: time where everyone has something to say, and because we
Speaker 1: have the Internet, everyone can post their mind driving. Because
Speaker 1: we have you know, the zooms and the YouTube of
Speaker 1: the world, everyone can get in front of a phone
Speaker 1: or camera and say here's your they should drive here
Speaker 1: they should die, even if it makes no sense. It
Speaker 1: has a guy like Nate Newton and deep thought, like wait,
Speaker 1: what you know? So sometimes I always take that kind
Speaker 1: stuff from grant of salt and I go, you know,
Speaker 1: I hear certain things and I go, I'm not even
Speaker 1: paying that any attention because that makes no sense for
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do right now. I agree. I yeah,
Speaker 1: any other season, like, I've always wondered why they don't
Speaker 1: just take a flyer on a quarterback, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's been like a fifth or six round pick on
Speaker 1: a guy that just that may work out. Odds are
Speaker 1: they don't ever work out, but you know, neither do
Speaker 1: a lot of the fifth or six round picks. So
Speaker 1: every other year, I'm like, I would just take a
Speaker 1: flyer every year, kind of like what the Patriots. Dude,
Speaker 1: just try to hit on a guy. Maybe you get
Speaker 1: a guy, maybe you know, Odds are you're not. But
Speaker 1: this year I'm with you, guys. I think you need
Speaker 1: so much help and so much depth that I don't
Speaker 1: think you can waste to pick if you don't think
Speaker 1: a guy has a chance at all to get on
Speaker 1: the field, and there's no way you're letting a guy
Speaker 1: get on the field everyday act this kind of money.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you, guys, there's no way in hell
Speaker 1: I draft a quarterback this year. And see, this is
Speaker 1: what that Green Bay has always you know, Green Bay,
Speaker 1: New England teams such as that, has always drafted quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: But understand, men, and I'm not saying that we're not
Speaker 1: didn't have that here, But Mike McCarthy has always had
Speaker 1: a certain time in the year where he would take
Speaker 1: two and a half months and he would just focus
Speaker 1: on his quarterbacks and their development and they would come
Speaker 1: into account of some form working through his direction with
Speaker 1: other people and build these guys up. Have you ever
Speaker 1: heard of us? And when coach Garrett was here of
Speaker 1: having that type of deal go on. Now, they were
Speaker 1: too busy. They were too busy I d game. They
Speaker 1: were too busy having beers at dude games. They were
Speaker 1: too busy up in Tennessee. They were too busy, you know,
Speaker 1: at the Kentucky Derby and do other things in that nature.
Speaker 1: And started being, uh, you know, out there doing some
Speaker 1: real football stuff. They were, they were, they were, they
Speaker 1: were sharing butt lights at dude games. Look at you
Speaker 1: throwing the fire out here. He tried to break. He
Speaker 1: tried to break some energy, ain't it. I guess so?
Speaker 1: But we'll stop. We'll stop when you have a history,
Speaker 1: Stop me when I'm telling a lie, Stop me when
Speaker 1: I'm telling the lie. When you have a history like
Speaker 1: New England has of developing quarterbacks, when you've had a
Speaker 1: history like uh Green Bay has of developing quarterbacks, that
Speaker 1: mean that you have to do something extra. And you know,
Speaker 1: like I tell people, I know, it's certain teams and positions,
Speaker 1: Like I know we're about Pittsburgh and wide receivers. If
Speaker 1: anybody in this finding a wide receiver in his draft,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the Pittsburgh still is. I've never worried
Speaker 1: about that. I've never worried about a three four devas.
Speaker 1: Even if anybody can find him, the Pittsburgh still is
Speaker 1: can So it's certain teams has linked to certain positions
Speaker 1: that but they spend that extra time or they have
Speaker 1: that person within their program or the organization that say,
Speaker 1: this is what a three four divas event looked like.
Speaker 1: This is what a wide receiver looked like. This is
Speaker 1: a little knack I have for quarterbacks. You understand what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say here, Cowboys got that. Is there
Speaker 1: any positions they've been good at. I'm gonna let Jest
Speaker 1: answer that since he's been watching them closer to go
Speaker 1: to the Duke Games. I think this is this has
Speaker 1: been the biggest problem that the Cowboys have had in
Speaker 1: the lives. I'll just say under the Jason Garrett era,
Speaker 1: the biggest issue is guys outside of the first second round,
Speaker 1: and those guys you don't need much maturing or developing.
Speaker 1: A guy who's the first or second round pick right
Speaker 1: coming with enough highly talented skills. That's why they were
Speaker 1: drafted that high. The biggest problem with the Cowboys is
Speaker 1: they have not been able to bring in guys. There's
Speaker 1: guys here and there, but just overall bringing guys in
Speaker 1: that third, four, fifth, sixth round and actually develop those
Speaker 1: guys into players. So that way, now I can have
Speaker 1: a guy who has a significant role on my team,
Speaker 1: like a Dark Prescott for example, who is making six
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a year. If you get enough of
Speaker 1: those guys in your rotation, splashed in a couple of
Speaker 1: those first and second round picks, and now you have
Speaker 1: a good balance of salary and players instead of having
Speaker 1: all your players be at the high end of your
Speaker 1: salary cap, and then you're trying to have these guys
Speaker 1: who are down here really just pan out. If you
Speaker 1: can bring it up with these guys now who are
Speaker 1: making six hundred eight hundred thousand dollars, are in the
Speaker 1: mix with those guys and giving you significant productivity on
Speaker 1: the field, are in the mix with some of those
Speaker 1: high level guys. That's how you formulate and build teams.
Speaker 1: If every year you're having to go into the draft
Speaker 1: and find new players, and every year you have to
Speaker 1: go in the fringe and find new payers because you
Speaker 1: can't develop them in your own system, then that's going
Speaker 1: to always leave you on the bad end of the
Speaker 1: stick because it's going to cost you so much money
Speaker 1: and you won't be able to keep that nucleus together
Speaker 1: and build over time because your salary cap number will
Speaker 1: be so high because you have to pay all these
Speaker 1: high profile players to come in and try to win
Speaker 1: right now. That has been the knock against Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: and his culture staff over the last ten years. If
Speaker 1: they have not been able to draft guys in those
Speaker 1: lower rounds, those fourth, fifth, sixth rounds, and enough of
Speaker 1: those guys they have a player here and there, but
Speaker 1: having enough of those guys being drafted brought in developed
Speaker 1: over time, and now that's how you keep your so
Speaker 1: to speak, your farm system healthy and full, is that
Speaker 1: you're able to bring guys in at a very low
Speaker 1: cost and develop them into players that are able to
Speaker 1: help you on Sunday in significant moments. I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys right now have about seven guys who have been
Speaker 1: drafted on Date three. Seven guys on the roster right
Speaker 1: now drafted on Day three, Tony Pollard, Dorn song st On,
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz, Xavier Woods, Noah Brown, Dak Prescott, and Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: So you've got three starters out of that group, Xavier Woods, Prescott,
Speaker 1: and Anthony Brown. I mean, is that which one and
Speaker 1: on tent and only one of them you just excited about? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: what Jesse's saying is, by the time you get to
Speaker 1: that third or fourth year with these guys, you highly
Speaker 1: excited about what they do. Now I'm not saying there
Speaker 1: a great part of the team, but you excited, like
Speaker 1: you know, like like a special teams guy. You're like, man,
Speaker 1: we can't get rid of this guy. This guy's is it?
Speaker 1: We brought him through our system. Anthony Brown, his first
Speaker 1: year was great, his second year was kind of shaky,
Speaker 1: his third year was he got hurt. So it is
Speaker 1: you want to be excited, not so much that they
Speaker 1: are great players, because you had to develop these guys,
Speaker 1: but what they do you're excited about, you know what development. Hey, Kurt,
Speaker 1: hang on real quick because one of my favorite parts
Speaker 1: of this show is I love to hear y'all's opinions
Speaker 1: and I love to hear what you guys are saying,
Speaker 1: and I can't hear anything that Jesse saying. So we're
Speaker 1: going to take a quick break a little early, try
Speaker 1: to fix his microphone technical issues because I want to
Speaker 1: hear what he has to say about this. So what
Speaker 1: well we're gonna do is take this quick break because Jesse,
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring up something after this, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to talk about social distancing and some things that
Speaker 1: happened over the weekend as well. So we're going to
Speaker 1: take a break on hear with Jesse. As I say,
Speaker 1: I want to hear what Nate has to say, and
Speaker 1: I definitely want to hear what Kurt has to say
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Speaker 1: I'll do that. I will do that, all right. So
Speaker 1: let's pick up where we left off. Kurt, what what
Speaker 1: what was your point drafting? Well, we're talking about day
Speaker 1: three and then the number of players on the roster
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. Is it? Are they choosing
Speaker 1: the wrong guys? Are they not developing the guys? I
Speaker 1: think I think, I think it's a litit of boat.
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that, and I'll legest to
Speaker 1: take this is you got I think you're getting the
Speaker 1: right guys. But the culture, the culture somewhere in there,
Speaker 1: the culture you hungry the first year. We see all
Speaker 1: this greatness in the first year, and we expect, we
Speaker 1: at least expect that the next year what you gave us,
Speaker 1: at least from the year before, and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you drop off of a clip. That's the culture
Speaker 1: of I've arrived. And guys should not feel that way,
Speaker 1: at least at least I never felt that way as
Speaker 1: a as a free agent to my eighth ninth year.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I know the way to your
Speaker 1: eighth or ninth a year. Yeah, man, Because they kept
Speaker 1: it was just about competition. They always brought in guys.
Speaker 1: They always was drafting alignment here, alignment there, and the
Speaker 1: first guy they come up, Yeah, but let's replace the
Speaker 1: fact got over there right guard or that fat guy
Speaker 1: left guard. I'm like, wow, every year they've been coming
Speaker 1: at me, brother. And then when Jimmy got here, that's
Speaker 1: when I really um and Jimmy. When Jimmy Johnessy got
Speaker 1: here and Charles Hayler got here, and that's when I
Speaker 1: really took off as an athlete and as a person.
Speaker 1: What was it like coming in, I mean, it had
Speaker 1: been a few years since the team had done much
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Did you get a sense of entitlement
Speaker 1: from the from the team? A sense of entitlement? Yes,
Speaker 1: And I think this is just a part of the brand.
Speaker 1: When you're a Dallas Cowboy, everyone's a star. Like literally,
Speaker 1: everyone's a star. I came in as a guy who
Speaker 1: came off a reality TV show, and people wanted me
Speaker 1: to come on radio shows and do autograph signings and
Speaker 1: do TV stuff. I mean, and that's the biggest part
Speaker 1: of it is that everyone has this brand. Everyone feels
Speaker 1: as if they're actually bigger than I had done nothing.
Speaker 1: I had done nothing, but when a reality TV show,
Speaker 1: and people wanted me a part of their stuff. People
Speaker 1: wanted me there. I think the biggest thing with this
Speaker 1: Cowboys team, and for a long time they've been one
Speaker 1: of the youngest teams in the National Football League, and
Speaker 1: with youth there comes a lack of experience, that comes
Speaker 1: a lack of accountability. I think when you see the
Speaker 1: really good teams, there's this good mixture of veteran guys,
Speaker 1: older guys who have accomplished some things in life and
Speaker 1: in the game that are able to show these younger guys.
Speaker 1: And I think that goes back to where to kind
Speaker 1: of where Nate was at was they had a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys in their team where they were talented, they
Speaker 1: were veteran, good mix of young and old. But those
Speaker 1: guys who were the veteran guys, your Michael RVers of
Speaker 1: the world, your Emmy Smith's, your choice. They kept guys
Speaker 1: accountable right because they understood that it was greater than
Speaker 1: just the individual. Yes, you will have your individual as success,
Speaker 1: but if we all came to the table and do
Speaker 1: what you had to do, that we will all equally
Speaker 1: get You know, as my coaches stay in college, it's
Speaker 1: not about you know, every everyone won't get the reward.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone will get award, but everyone will get
Speaker 1: the reward. So it's kind of knowing where you stand
Speaker 1: and how can we all get the reward from all
Speaker 1: of our hard work. That's kind of how having that
Speaker 1: young mix with a lot of guys in there, because
Speaker 1: you think about it, the veterans of your team, um,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're maybe your tyrants and that nature.
Speaker 1: Those guys are in their eighth ninth year. But Zeke's
Speaker 1: in his fourth year, uh Dax in his fourth year,
Speaker 1: Jalen the second year, third year kind of got You know,
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys who are the key guys
Speaker 1: on this team are still young individuals and still truck,
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out how to to to go
Speaker 1: about this leadership thing. And none of them have really
Speaker 1: accomplished anything in the field of football, you know, in life, yes,
Speaker 1: but just talking about on field, none of them have
Speaker 1: been anywhere of any substantial success to even know what
Speaker 1: it takes to get Like, no one on this team
Speaker 1: know what it takes to get to an NFC championship game.
Speaker 1: No one on this team of significance know what it
Speaker 1: means to get to a super Bowl because none of
Speaker 1: them have done it. So how can these guys you know,
Speaker 1: to go out there and and to say, oh, I
Speaker 1: know what they to get the super Bowl when none
Speaker 1: of them have done it. That's why it takes coaches
Speaker 1: likea Mike McCarthy and his staff to come in and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we've been to the Promised Land and we need to
Speaker 1: get you guys to understand what the new culture is
Speaker 1: going to be and how we're going to get there,
Speaker 1: because no one on this team personally knows what it
Speaker 1: means to get there. Yeah, I talked to I talked
Speaker 1: to DeMarcus Ware last week, did a little interview with
Speaker 1: him on a little video conference call and talked about
Speaker 1: a little bit about the two sevent team that he
Speaker 1: was on and like they had the talent, like that
Speaker 1: was one of the most talented teams you know in
Speaker 1: recent history, And asked him what the difference was when
Speaker 1: you have all the talent and you go to somewhere
Speaker 1: like Denver that wasn't quite as talented, but they were
Speaker 1: able to go win a Super Bowl. He told me
Speaker 1: just what you guys said, the culture, and he said
Speaker 1: they built that team. That team was built in the
Speaker 1: off season. That championship was made in the off season.
Speaker 1: It wasn't during the season when you're playing and you
Speaker 1: on the field. And he said, it was all the
Speaker 1: things they did as a team together before the season
Speaker 1: with their their families and you know, they bring their
Speaker 1: lives to the to the to the building because they
Speaker 1: were like, we're gonna do the work in the offseason.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be here late and we're not gonna be home,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna bring the families up here to have
Speaker 1: dinner and then we're gonna go back to work. And
Speaker 1: he said, they built that whole thing leading up to
Speaker 1: the season is where they won that championship. Because now
Speaker 1: because now you're going on Jesse Nick, we'll see all
Speaker 1: of that play. All of that plays apart. But what
Speaker 1: I admired about coach Johnson, what I admired about Charles Haley,
Speaker 1: uh Emmett Smith, Mike rb and Troy and Tone it
Speaker 1: toward what I admired about these guys star what our
Speaker 1: coaching staff is when it came to work, and they
Speaker 1: had a no nuns, this attitude from the strength coach
Speaker 1: to the head coach, and when it came to having fun,
Speaker 1: they had the most fun. It's about putting your priorities
Speaker 1: in the right place. Man, understanding that this window of
Speaker 1: opportunity is not decided by the fans, about the media.
Speaker 1: This one of the opportunities decided by you as a team.
Speaker 1: Do you look at your team and say, hey, we
Speaker 1: have the players, we had a talent. Now we're gonna
Speaker 1: put ourselves in position. We ain't talking about the coaches yet,
Speaker 1: We're talking about the players. Charles Hayler came in and
Speaker 1: just changed the way we thought about things. Mikel Irvan
Speaker 1: was always that way. Trottman was always that way. But
Speaker 1: then when you got a head coach that you know,
Speaker 1: as the season went on, we got more and more focused.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a grind through those sixteen games. But
Speaker 1: when the playoffs came. I remember coach Johnson came when
Speaker 1: our first playoffs, when we had a real shot to
Speaker 1: make something happen. He told us, he said, man, we
Speaker 1: got three games here. He said, I don't care who
Speaker 1: you are. He looked at me and said, big Newton,
Speaker 1: you were three hundred and fifty plus pound. We can
Speaker 1: flip you upside down bottom and you can hang by
Speaker 1: your cahunas for three weeks. We need total focus. I'm serious.
Speaker 1: You know he didn't said as nice as I'm saying it,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, lead coach, I don't want to have
Speaker 1: a kid after that. But anyway, I understood what he
Speaker 1: was saying. As the season go on, you had those
Speaker 1: mixtures of veteran and coaches like it's no time to
Speaker 1: lighten up now, because what you're trying to do is
Speaker 1: to get a player to see that this is your window.
Speaker 1: Today is your window. What are you doing today? So
Speaker 1: tomorrow and take care of itself. And that's what the
Speaker 1: Markus Lawrence was talking about. We took care of business
Speaker 1: every day so the next day could be better and
Speaker 1: so but it takes us special group of guys have
Speaker 1: that special time. It may not work for one year,
Speaker 1: but they had that one year where it clicked. Think
Speaker 1: any of these guys they brought in can add some
Speaker 1: of that McCoy type to a certain extent. You this
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a difficult year for teams to
Speaker 1: do what they gotta do because you gotta juggle working
Speaker 1: out in a safe environment. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: guys don't have a home gym. So if I'm mister
Speaker 1: Jones in this group here, I'm finding a way for
Speaker 1: the city of Frisco and whoever doctors, whoever where to
Speaker 1: cleanse my area. Way to kind of isolate my area
Speaker 1: so I can get guys going. Because everybody ain't gonna
Speaker 1: condition the same way. You know, everybody ain't somebody some
Speaker 1: people need structure outline. Nate Newton segested in need structure,
Speaker 1: But some guys need structure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So you know, you talk about working out and getting together.
Speaker 1: Now you know our quarterbacks taking a lot of heat
Speaker 1: for doing that. I think that's being overblown a little bit.
Speaker 1: Or is he just uh, you know what's going on?
Speaker 1: What I think is you gotta get into kind of
Speaker 1: a quarantine type area. You know what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: is players got to be checked. You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: bite the bullet financially as a as an ownership group,
Speaker 1: make sure your players are checked and make sure they're
Speaker 1: they understand, Okay, we're gonna do this. We're gonna pay
Speaker 1: for this. So you come to us and you go home.
Speaker 1: You come to us and you go home. You get
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You have to be just yeah, but
Speaker 1: but but, but, but but here's here's my shows that
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. Here, here's here's my thing.
Speaker 1: Here's my thing. And I'm not what you're saying, right,
Speaker 1: but there's a simple fixed all of this. There's a
Speaker 1: simple fix to all of this. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that you should go out and break the rules, but
Speaker 1: there's a simple fix to all of this. To go
Speaker 1: Derek Jeter style. Okay, Derek Jeter played twenty years in
Speaker 1: the Big Apple. Derek Jeter had legendary parties. Derek Jeter
Speaker 1: had all of the most famous women that you could
Speaker 1: ever think about. His lineup is phenomenal. You never heard
Speaker 1: one story about Derek Jeter. There was never any cell
Speaker 1: phone footage. There was never any pictures taken. That's all
Speaker 1: you gotta do, Like whoever you are, tell the people,
Speaker 1: no cameras in here today. But see, everybody wants to
Speaker 1: be a part of this social media thing. I gotta
Speaker 1: put my work out there. I gotta put my work
Speaker 1: out there. They gotta see that I'm doing this. They
Speaker 1: gotta see that I'm doing that. No they don't, No,
Speaker 1: they don't. Nobody has to see what you're doing. All
Speaker 1: you gotta do is go on there and work and
Speaker 1: go home. But every but everybody want to be big.
Speaker 1: And I gotta get my lights up. I gotta get
Speaker 1: my views up, I gotta get my retweets up. I
Speaker 1: gotta get all all this stuff. And none of this
Speaker 1: stuff would happen if all they did was come in
Speaker 1: there and whoever's working out Dak das Zeke, whoever saying, hey, fellers, listen,
Speaker 1: we're coming here for an hour to get some work in.
Speaker 1: No cameras if we're gonna record it for our for
Speaker 1: our own purposes, to look out a view later on
Speaker 1: our own cool. No social media, no Instagram, no Twitter,
Speaker 1: because that's all that's all you gotta do. That's all
Speaker 1: you have to do. I was telling you guys in
Speaker 1: the break, I get a chance every year, and I'm
Speaker 1: so thankful for this. Brian Wallsley brings me and I
Speaker 1: get tend to talk to the rookies every single year,
Speaker 1: and I talk from a media slash perspective. And I
Speaker 1: asked this one question to every single one of the players.
Speaker 1: You do But Jess, I'm I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 1: No matter what you do, it still comes down to
Speaker 1: the player. And the individuals that they're with. And I
Speaker 1: grew under if dad don't want that out there, don't
Speaker 1: put it out there, you know. But it's not him
Speaker 1: putting it out there. It's someone else putting it out there.
Speaker 1: But he needs to come in and say, hey, don't
Speaker 1: cameras either. But that's that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: I see ever there, the Dak don't care. So now
Speaker 1: maybe the you know, maybe a coach said, hey, Dak,
Speaker 1: great you're working out, but you know, don't put that
Speaker 1: out there. But once again, I'm talking about that as
Speaker 1: a team. What you have to do is, mister Jones,
Speaker 1: the government body, the governing body of FRISCO, which in
Speaker 1: turn whichever a counter there in have to get with
Speaker 1: these people and say, okay, how can we safely get
Speaker 1: these players worked out? But the players that have to
Speaker 1: be disciplined because you want to you don't want to
Speaker 1: bring nothing to nobody and you don't want to take
Speaker 1: nothing out to somebody. So it's not gonna like the
Speaker 1: baseball thing where you try to bubble up thirty teams.
Speaker 1: But you have your individual players and your trainers and
Speaker 1: your coaches and you and you work out and you
Speaker 1: leave there, you go home, you come from home, you
Speaker 1: stand at lockdown, mold that you're in. But you make
Speaker 1: sure everybody is clear and that that's something that that's
Speaker 1: only way you can do this thing. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: get a jump on the rest of the league, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna try to expect the guys that were a
Speaker 1: new coach, a first year coach. If you want to jump,
Speaker 1: you got to stop putting things because that virtual putting
Speaker 1: stuff in. I can look at a playbook all day,
Speaker 1: but I wanted the players that needs to get on
Speaker 1: the field and actually do it. I'm a visual guy,
Speaker 1: I'm a doing guy. So I would be way behind
Speaker 1: because they'd be like, hey, we got this new player,
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, what do we do? You know,
Speaker 1: so Kurt did it? Didn't bother you. The video that
Speaker 1: came out over the weekend of dak Hevin. I guess
Speaker 1: his birthday party or Easter party or whatever that was
Speaker 1: on team Yeah, people in his house. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to tell him not to
Speaker 1: do it. I just he's he's young, he's healthy, he's
Speaker 1: probably a pretty low risk category. But it just it
Speaker 1: looks bad, you know, that's the thing. And he's already
Speaker 1: in a position where he's you know, in the contract
Speaker 1: situation and the franchise and this and that going on,
Speaker 1: you got Dez happening. It just it's another one of
Speaker 1: those things. It just, you know, kind of builds up
Speaker 1: to people kind of looking at in fans and say,
Speaker 1: you know, is this the guy we really want running
Speaker 1: our team? And so it's just it's probably in the
Speaker 1: end it's no harm, no foul, but for right now,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just a bad look to me. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, you know it does. Dez has a different
Speaker 1: he has a different motivation. He's trying to get his
Speaker 1: and he wants people to see he's working out. So
Speaker 1: that may be a situation where Dez or Dak's got say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw you the bag, You're gonna put
Speaker 1: it out there. But I don't know, it's just Dak's
Speaker 1: just got to be a little smarter, I think, because
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's the most popular position in the
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback for the Cowboys. He's he's got different rules
Speaker 1: unfortunately for him, but he's got he's got a different
Speaker 1: playing field. And look, Dak is from everything I know
Speaker 1: and everything I've been around, Dak is a good dude.
Speaker 1: But all the things that throughout his career, even in college,
Speaker 1: all the stuff that's wound up on social media of
Speaker 1: him with cell phone footage and pictures and all that,
Speaker 1: and you know, with him and Zeke since they've been
Speaker 1: on the team together. I guess the part that I
Speaker 1: don't understand is kind of like what Jesse said, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a get together. We're gonna have fifteen,
Speaker 1: twenty thirty people, whatever. Put your cell phone. There's a
Speaker 1: box at the front door. Put your thank you in
Speaker 1: the box. No videos, no nothing if you want to
Speaker 1: come in. Like I don't everything he's been through, like
Speaker 1: you would think he would be like, this could be
Speaker 1: this could be construed as a bad thing. If this
Speaker 1: gets out that I'm having people over when there's a
Speaker 1: no congregating order, why not just shut it down. And
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I have is it's almost like
Speaker 1: what y'all said, he doesn't care. So that's a part
Speaker 1: I can get. I would have just been like, put
Speaker 1: your cell phone and if you want to come in,
Speaker 1: it goes in the box. If I see one out
Speaker 1: you're out, You're out of the house. So I don't
Speaker 1: think I don't think he does. I don't think that
Speaker 1: is that he doesn't care. I think. I think the
Speaker 1: thing with Dak is he is I think he's I
Speaker 1: think he's too kind I do. I think he's young.
Speaker 1: I think he's too kind. I think a part of
Speaker 1: him still thinks like a fourth round pick. I think
Speaker 1: a part of him still thinks like, Hey, I'm just
Speaker 1: one of the guys. I think a part of him
Speaker 1: still feels like I'm just one of the boys, and
Speaker 1: he has to realize, no, I'm the starting quarterback of
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Like that has to be a realistic
Speaker 1: thought that goes through his head every single time. Every
Speaker 1: single time I wake up, someone's watching, someone's filming, someone's
Speaker 1: critiquing I am the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That you're not just one of the boys anymore. You
Speaker 1: ain't hanging with the boys no more. You're Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. So when you have people
Speaker 1: in your home, you have to have the mentality of man,
Speaker 1: someone in here could be recording me or filming me.
Speaker 1: When I go to the store, everything that I do
Speaker 1: is going to be magnified times ten. I'm not just
Speaker 1: the fourth round guy standing behind Kella Moore and Tony
Speaker 1: Romo anymore. I'm the guy under center. I'm the head
Speaker 1: of Hancho in this peach right now, and I have
Speaker 1: to understand that. I think sometimes he kind of reversed
Speaker 1: back to I'm just one of the homies. I'm just
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. I'm just one of the guys
Speaker 1: like the rest of y'all. Nah, Bro, you are Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. You have to always
Speaker 1: you have to act like Derek Jeter. You have to
Speaker 1: carry yourself Derek Jeter esk when you're having gatherings and
Speaker 1: being around people like that has to be away a
Speaker 1: mentality of every single thing that you do, and those
Speaker 1: folks that can't get with that, they should be cut
Speaker 1: off and should be around the advantage of being a
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys quarterback is what you say go. The disadvantagement
Speaker 1: of Dadas Cowboy quarter a quarterback is when you do wrong.
Speaker 1: It's all a goal. So yeah, So, I mean the
Speaker 1: man picked a cup up on the sideline and threw
Speaker 1: it in the trash and it became like this national
Speaker 1: story that he picked a cup up off the ground
Speaker 1: on the sideline. It's like, okay, what and see that?
Speaker 1: That is what I tell people is h you know,
Speaker 1: let me let me get a him. Move my wife trying,
Speaker 1: my wife trying to shout sellers. I gotta move to
Speaker 1: the house. You just put your wife on the interview. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: she talking about some some Our job is insurance and
Speaker 1: all this foolishness. Let me get I'll tell you what. Well,
Speaker 1: Nate relocates. Let's take our last break, and when we
Speaker 1: come back. We got a little bit a little thing
Speaker 1: called the draft that's gonna happen here in about a
Speaker 1: little bit over two weeks. We haven't really talked a
Speaker 1: whole lot about it. I want to get y'all thoughts on.
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Speaker 1: So Kurt, you did a great job. So you gonna
Speaker 1: promises things out of the draft thing s. I'm not
Speaker 1: making any promise to you, but that Okay, I just
Speaker 1: was sorry. Sorry, speak She's good. She's good. There was
Speaker 1: a lot of people reached out to me over the weekend. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: there was a tornado that touched down in Monroe, Louisiana,
Speaker 1: my hometown, ten miles from mom's house, and destroyed a
Speaker 1: bunch of airplanes at the airport, and um, it was
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Speaker 1: far enough away from her that she didn't affect her.
Speaker 1: So she's doing fine. But she's doing good. She called.
Speaker 1: I talked to her at least once a day now
Speaker 1: she calls me or I call her and we chat
Speaker 1: and see what's going on. Everybody's everybody's healthy and doing good.
Speaker 1: So just riding it out. Wait until this this stuff's
Speaker 1: over so she can start getting ready to move to
Speaker 1: Texas so and be our live in studio guests every
Speaker 1: Friday during the season. So there we go. Speaking of
Speaker 1: the draft, Kurt, we're all trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: we're doing with this draft since we're all social distancing
Speaker 1: and sounds like the NFL is going to hold the
Speaker 1: draft kind of virtually, and everybody's trying to figure that
Speaker 1: out with you know, the different technologies. And if you're
Speaker 1: you've been following our social channels, you've been seeing mister
Speaker 1: Jones and the coaching staff and Will McClay and Steven
Speaker 1: and all those guys conduct these Uh, I guess what
Speaker 1: normally would be the thirty visits where the players come
Speaker 1: in and talk to the coaching staff and the ownership.
Speaker 1: They've been doing all that virtually through you know, web interviews,
Speaker 1: and then the draft itself obviously was going to be
Speaker 1: in Vegas, and with everything that's going on, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see how this plays out because
Speaker 1: it's I think every team's trying to figure out how
Speaker 1: to give more access than ever before, just to keep
Speaker 1: people interested and keep them engaged because you don't have
Speaker 1: the big event like the draft. So we're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out some things on our end of how we
Speaker 1: can On Dallas Cowboys dot com, we're gonna have a
Speaker 1: virtual draft show hosted by two pretty high profile people.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're allowed to say who they
Speaker 1: are yet. I think everything's still in the works, but
Speaker 1: it's if we pull this off, it's gonna be really cool.
Speaker 1: There'll be call ins from players and possibly fans, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be really cool. We're still working
Speaker 1: out all the logistics, but it's gonna be really neat.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really neat to see how the NFL
Speaker 1: and all the other teams kind of pull it together
Speaker 1: virtually as well, and how do you handle are you
Speaker 1: able to bring players into the facility like you used to,
Speaker 1: can you not? I would imagine way things are now.
Speaker 1: That's probably still up in the air. So one thing
Speaker 1: that won't change is the draft itself and kind of
Speaker 1: you know, the rounds and all that stuff. I think
Speaker 1: there's been some talk of them possibly given more time
Speaker 1: on the clock just because of logistics. But what do
Speaker 1: you guys, We hadn't talked a lot about the draft.
Speaker 1: What do you guys? Obviously we all think they need
Speaker 1: to go defense. Have your opinions changed? Everybody's still thinking
Speaker 1: they need to go defense. Anybody zeroed in on a
Speaker 1: particular guy that they like or that they hope is
Speaker 1: there when the Cowboys are on the clock. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they'll I mean, I think this should go defense,
Speaker 1: but you're starting to see more and more that might
Speaker 1: not be the case. I think Peter King had it
Speaker 1: in his column that the Cowboys really like the center
Speaker 1: from Michigan m Rs I think his name is, and
Speaker 1: even he was talking about the team trading down and
Speaker 1: getting a center to immediately place Frederick. So you hear
Speaker 1: either talk about I think Morning News at a columnists
Speaker 1: this weekend and said, hey, they may they may take
Speaker 1: a receiver with that first pick. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wish they'd go defense, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're going to now who knows, what do you think?
Speaker 1: You know, I think it's still defense from me. It's
Speaker 1: still defense from me. M give me. I just give
Speaker 1: me an athlete on the back end. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: one of my if you can give me a guy
Speaker 1: on the back end, because I just feel the way
Speaker 1: the NFL is going, this is going to be a
Speaker 1: past happy league. You know, throwing the ball thirty forty
Speaker 1: times a game is not going to be an outlier anymore.
Speaker 1: It's going to be the way of business going forward
Speaker 1: in this league. And I just think if you can
Speaker 1: give me one of those athletes on the back end,
Speaker 1: whether it's McKinney or del Pit or you know, what
Speaker 1: is it, E J. Henderson, m one of those guys
Speaker 1: on the back end, safety or cornerback, that it's going
Speaker 1: to be able to go out there, cover guys outside,
Speaker 1: cover some guys inside. Because all the Titans now are
Speaker 1: starting to look like you know, receivers. They're they're six
Speaker 1: foot three, six foot four, six foot five, and they're
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty pounds and they can run, and
Speaker 1: the receivers, you know, those guys are getting Look at
Speaker 1: the draft, I mean everyone's running for fours and for
Speaker 1: threes and four and you know low for fives. Everybody
Speaker 1: can run nowadays, So so you know, I need guys
Speaker 1: who I am put on the field defensively that's going
Speaker 1: to be able to keep up with the those guys
Speaker 1: offensively because the days of two tight ends and a
Speaker 1: full back and all that, those days are out the door.
Speaker 1: You're going to see three full bar receiver sets, vertical routes,
Speaker 1: deep overs, you know, double moves. Guys are dropping back
Speaker 1: now five seven step drops or in the shotgun which
Speaker 1: is basically a five or seven step drop just to
Speaker 1: start off with, and letting roles developed down the field.
Speaker 1: So I just want athletes on the back end that's
Speaker 1: going to be able to cover those guys. Jesse, Do
Speaker 1: you think that these teams nowadays, You know, so for
Speaker 1: so long we've heard they should be building from the
Speaker 1: front end back and really load up your defensive line.
Speaker 1: But you're seeing some teams now, I think Miami, maybe Baltimore,
Speaker 1: where they're they're loading up on the back end in
Speaker 1: the secondary. Do you think that's the way to go.
Speaker 1: Now that you know, we talked about that within three
Speaker 1: seconds one second. You know, it's so quick. Now they
Speaker 1: need to be focusing more on the back end. Now.
Speaker 1: We talk about it a lot, and we talk about
Speaker 1: it as far as from the New England Patriots perspective.
Speaker 1: Look who Winghan plays, Emmy doing. Brian Flores, who comes
Speaker 1: from the Bill Belichick tree, He's doing a lot of
Speaker 1: what he saw done in New England. They pay the
Speaker 1: back end guys. They find safeties in cornerback because they
Speaker 1: figure if I got guys that can cover in the
Speaker 1: back end, I can scheme up twists and stunts and
Speaker 1: maybe bring an extra guy in to hold guys up front.
Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about being gashed so much so,
Speaker 1: you know, in the running game, but in the passing game.
Speaker 1: If I can shut guys down in man and man coverage,
Speaker 1: or I can shut guys down and some sort of
Speaker 1: coverage where I don't have to commit a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys into coverage, then I can do a lot upfront
Speaker 1: with six or seven guys. I can bring guys from
Speaker 1: weird angles. I can have guys you know, dropping and twisting,
Speaker 1: do all types of function stuff upfront. So I do
Speaker 1: think the way the league is going because the running
Speaker 1: back is kind of being pushed a little bit out
Speaker 1: of the league, and it's more so bringing in the
Speaker 1: shotgun quarterback throwing the ball forty times a game, three
Speaker 1: or four five receiver sets. So you're gonna need guys
Speaker 1: in the back end. It's going to be able to
Speaker 1: cover full large majority of the game. So build from
Speaker 1: the back end up. I don't I don't see that
Speaker 1: being a problem. I just see it as you know,
Speaker 1: adapting to what the game is going to be. And
Speaker 1: if we're looking at teams are done at the best.
Speaker 1: Look at the Patriots, Look at the guys who've gotten
Speaker 1: checks in New England. Those guys always, somehow, some way,
Speaker 1: we're twenty numbers. When it comes to defense. Those other
Speaker 1: guys they let go. They let Pro Bowl guys go.
Speaker 1: They bring guys in the collins of the world, the
Speaker 1: van noise of the world. They say, Blaye Bayell, We'll
Speaker 1: bringing another guy next year that's gonna give us maximum
Speaker 1: effort and we're gonna play him in position that's gonna
Speaker 1: be successful for him. The back guys, the back end
Speaker 1: guys for the pictures of the guys that get the checks.
Speaker 1: What do you think Nate being a big man up front?
Speaker 1: I think they should be focusing on them are on
Speaker 1: the back end. You know what you know, Like I've
Speaker 1: told guys over the last three weeks, Man, it's a
Speaker 1: kid out of Florida. I can't think it's Nat. I
Speaker 1: think it's Na. Na, it's Henderson. And yeah, you better
Speaker 1: go out and get those wasting to pick on the
Speaker 1: quarterback when you can say from the fourth round to
Speaker 1: the seventh round, and if you got any compensatory picks,
Speaker 1: make them all cornerbacks. You got to go ravage this
Speaker 1: draft for everything you can on the back end. High
Speaker 1: bread safeties. You know, the Clemson got a kid that's
Speaker 1: a linebacker that's a high bread can be a high
Speaker 1: bread safety. I know we can't get him. I understand
Speaker 1: that right there. But anything that's a safety or corner
Speaker 1: got any type of coverage skills, you got to go
Speaker 1: ravage this draft and get it. It's nowhere in the
Speaker 1: world that you go out and get you go out
Speaker 1: and get a receiver. I'm not saying that we can't
Speaker 1: control the ball thirty five minutes a game and that
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna score forty points. I'm down with that.
Speaker 1: I'm down with that. But somewhere on defense, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to make a stop. If you're gonna go all
Speaker 1: the way, somewhere on defense, you're gonna have to make
Speaker 1: a stop. You got to have some corners that can
Speaker 1: take away that initial move, get them defensive line of
Speaker 1: the chance to get their and vice versa. Uh. We
Speaker 1: we have to we have to go at this draft
Speaker 1: man in a logical way. Uh. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: after the first two picks that if if we got
Speaker 1: some guys that are equal that we don't go get
Speaker 1: the offensive guy. But right now we have Looney at
Speaker 1: the center position. We got to deal with that. We
Speaker 1: have to pray that the mc government kid can stay healthy.
Speaker 1: We have to go another year with our left guard.
Speaker 1: Let's let's do that, man, because you you cannot keep
Speaker 1: uh plugging holes with the defensive guy for the last
Speaker 1: two or three years. Besides the one or two guys
Speaker 1: that we had, Uh, we let one go to Miami
Speaker 1: and defensive back we got d laudn't play up to
Speaker 1: the standers last year, you know who. It was basically
Speaker 1: coming off an injury. Other than that, who do We
Speaker 1: have two linebackers but none existent last year, so we
Speaker 1: don't have any playmakers. We have anybody on defense that
Speaker 1: we can say, Hey, we can depend on this guy,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna just ignore it in the draft. No way,
Speaker 1: no way. Can they do enohing to think in the
Speaker 1: draft to make a difference. They gotta try, they gotta
Speaker 1: get have all our effort and if it ain't, if
Speaker 1: it's nobody there when you pick, I understand if it's
Speaker 1: nobody there. But we don't need to see during the
Speaker 1: year like, Wow, we had a chance to pick this guy. Wow,
Speaker 1: really this guy? Wow, that's been out. That's been our
Speaker 1: mantra the last two or three years. Wow, this dude
Speaker 1: can really play. Why didn't we? Wow, that dude can
Speaker 1: really play. You know that. That's why we have a
Speaker 1: new coaching staff that's given a new direction to our
Speaker 1: putt personnel that that know the players that they want.
Speaker 1: We should be a better we should be a better team. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it will it will transferred to
Speaker 1: the field this year, because you do have a new
Speaker 1: coaching staff with a new system, especially defensively, So we
Speaker 1: don't know how the thing will play out if we
Speaker 1: play football this year. What you don't say that? Now,
Speaker 1: what's up? What do you think? Well? I agree, I
Speaker 1: think this should be going defense. Um, you know I'm
Speaker 1: talking about building from the back forward. Do you think
Speaker 1: you should spend our resources on the back end or
Speaker 1: the front end on defense? Yeah? You know, I kind
Speaker 1: of tend to agree with Jesse that. You know, this
Speaker 1: day and age, you know, it's such a passing game.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks can get it out so quick. You know, you
Speaker 1: can do some things on the front line to mix
Speaker 1: things up. You know, finding a grade a corner that
Speaker 1: can shut somebody down, to me these days, is maybe
Speaker 1: the most important thing on the field. Whether the Cowboys
Speaker 1: do that, I don't know. I just I hope they
Speaker 1: take the best player, best defensive player available though, at
Speaker 1: that seventeenth pick. If he's there, If he's there, If
Speaker 1: a guys at sixteen, okay, we had to give up
Speaker 1: a fifth, we gotta give him a fourth into all
Speaker 1: of the fifth, sixth, give it up. Get a player
Speaker 1: that Jesse said, get an athletic player that cannot that
Speaker 1: can be an athlete that can make plays. If you
Speaker 1: don't do that, we're gonna we're gonna be in the
Speaker 1: same position. We're gonna be like, what, well, what happened.
Speaker 1: But what happened is this guy was right, then we
Speaker 1: didn't take him. What if the best player available is
Speaker 1: one of those wide receivers. Now that if Jerry Judy,
Speaker 1: if Jerry Judy stuck, because every Judy is available. To
Speaker 1: tell you something, the worst thing said, what jess if
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy is available, I want him. He makes me
Speaker 1: football horny. I'll take me some Jerry Judy all day.
Speaker 1: I have no I have no problem. I have no
Speaker 1: problem with an elite athlete that is fallen into your lap.
Speaker 1: But the last two or three years follow us that
Speaker 1: as not happened. Well, lee athletes fell intire lab. We
Speaker 1: went for a position need and picked the wrong guy.
Speaker 1: What do you think I know, I got one minute
Speaker 1: to get this out. Yeah. This team just has not
Speaker 1: put a lot of They haven't put a lot of
Speaker 1: stock in the back end of this defense. And it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see with the new coaching staff.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a lot to do with the
Speaker 1: old coaching staff and the old defensive coaching staff that
Speaker 1: they thought everything started with pressure up front and if
Speaker 1: you could get enough pressure, then you didn't have to
Speaker 1: worry about the back end. Well, the games, the game's changing.
Speaker 1: The game constantly changes. There's ebbs and flows, and with
Speaker 1: rules changes and everything, different positions become more valuable. Like
Speaker 1: you're seeing the running back positions not as valuable as
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position is now. And I think you're
Speaker 1: seeing a big shift in now your secondary is more
Speaker 1: valuable and a lot of systems than your front end.
Speaker 1: And the pressure, like you said, Kurt, all these quick
Speaker 1: releases and everybody you know, these three step drops and
Speaker 1: one two, three, bam and the balls out within three seconds.
Speaker 1: So I don't know the right answer, but I do
Speaker 1: think this is going to be one of the most
Speaker 1: exciting and interesting drafts we've had in recent memory, just
Speaker 1: because there's so many new things at play and there's
Speaker 1: so many positions that you need. Usually we go into
Speaker 1: these drafts that we've we've had the same coaching staff
Speaker 1: for so long you can almost you could almost tell
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. And this year, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you can, just because who all might be available
Speaker 1: at seventeen who alls? You know, all the positions that
Speaker 1: we need help at like nothing would surprise me. And
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see what this coaching staff,
Speaker 1: how they work with Will and Jerry and Stephen to
Speaker 1: tell them what they need and try to develop this
Speaker 1: team out. So I think this is gonna be super
Speaker 1: interesting and I'm it's one of the most I'm intrigued
Speaker 1: by this draft more than a draft we've had in
Speaker 1: a long long time. So well, fellas, we're out of time, Matt,
Speaker 1: I robot is gonna yell at us if we don't
Speaker 1: get out of here right now. So what do you
Speaker 1: say we do it again next Monday? And I tell
Speaker 1: you what I promise. I will start the show off
Speaker 1: next week with more enthusiasm and more energy, so Jesse
Speaker 1: doesn't get mad at well, you know what, if you
Speaker 1: can just get some wings and maybe all of us
Speaker 1: to be excited, maybe that's what it was. I was
Speaker 1: just grumpy because I didn't get any wings for breakfast.
Speaker 1: So all right, Kurt, thanks for thanks for showing up man, Jesse,
Speaker 1: thanks for bringing it as always. Thank thanks for wearing
Speaker 1: a collar shirt today. Jesse, you look really right. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. You're welcome,
Speaker 1: You're welcome, Nate, thanks for bring and as always, Hey, Matt,
Speaker 1: I know you got a ton going on man at home,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot a lot you're dealing with. I
Speaker 1: just want to say personally, I appreciate all the hard
Speaker 1: work you've done to get these things figured out, to
Speaker 1: get them on the air, to keep them on the air.
Speaker 1: They look great, they sound great, and I know you've
Speaker 1: just been a lot of people working from home aren't
Speaker 1: working as hard as they were when we were in
Speaker 1: the office. You're working ten times harder than you were
Speaker 1: in the office, and you worked hard in the office.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate you, sank, you icing and doing what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Man, It's it's great that we're still able
Speaker 1: to do this once a week. So all right for Chris, Chris,
Speaker 1: bean do a little something today, Yeah, Chris, Yeah too, Chris.
Speaker 1: Appreciate everybody that has anything to do with this, So
Speaker 1: be safe. We will be back next Monday. Good seeing you, fellas,
Speaker 1: good talking to you, and we'll be back one week
Speaker 1: from today. Hanging with the boys. This has been a prettyucture.
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