WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Ravish The Draft 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:19.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfields, 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:25.000 flooding down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, presented 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.960 by Windstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts, 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:40.000 Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:44.840 to the s WBC Mortgage Bedroom again for another episode 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:49.360 of your favorite podcast on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. It 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:54.200 is Hanging with the Boys. Shanny Gross, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.920 Nate Newton. How he doing, fellas good man, good friend? 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.400 It's goods Monday, baby. How was Let's go around the horn? 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.400 How do we? How did we all? How did we 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.280 spend Easter? What did you What did you guys do? 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.640 What did you do? Kurt? You know, it wasn't a 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:12.920 whole lot different, to be honest. I mean, we had 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.119 a nice dinner with the family here, but otherwise it 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.959 was a little bit more laid back and not quite 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:26.399 the I guess celebration it normally is. Yeah, what about you, 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:31.720 Nate oh Man? Just uh did you church for a 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:36.480 couple hours? You know? Virtually through this m well, upsite 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:41.720 zoom and got out. You know, my wife needs to 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.399 go to the store. So we got out and drove 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.959 around just periodically. Man, then come back home and you 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.960 know we got this ung these games that we played 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:54.080 in the house, so oh man, yeah, it's pretty good. Chanlenge. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.200 Just I'm trying to do us right, man, and see 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.480 how long it's you know, maybe we can get some 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:04.840 real amaz on. How long this thing going going vast? Yeah? Yeah, Jesse, 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.920 what did you do this weekend? Not? Man, just saw 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:12.079 just relax man and cook some breakfast yesterday morning and 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.280 we had church service via the web and then m 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.560 leftover lasagna. So we just we just laid low, kicked 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.640 a man and I ain't do too much nothing. How 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:28.440 about you shall just ate some good food, laid around 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:31.840 the house, played some some board games, and uh, it's 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:37.360 about it, man, Just Groundhog day. This is basically if 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:41.360 any if anyone wants to know what training camp is, like, yeah, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:45.200 you're doing right now, day to day. This is training camp. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.399 You get up, you do the exact same thing. You're 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.840 in the same place. You can't really leave. You don't 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.920 know what day it is, You don't care what day 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.720 it is because it doesn't matter what day it is. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.360 If it's Monday, if it's Saturday, it really doesn't matter. 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.480 So this is this is what about Week two of 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.240 training camp feels like it's just you're basically rolling out 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.480 of bed and just your body and your mind just 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.880 take over because every day is exactly the same. So 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.480 so yeah, so that's that's where we're at. We'll good 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.360 to hear all you guys are good. Everybody's still healthy. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:21.480 Everybody's still doing good. Still strong, baby, Yeah, so far, 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:27.320 so good. All right, good deal. Um, your energy is 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:32.200 way up today, man, mine? Yeah? Oh am, i am? 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.200 I am? I a little too low? Yeah, you come on, man, 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:39.480 it's Monday. People listen, man, it's monday. People need us. 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:42.880 People look to us. People come to us. Man, we 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.920 we we gotta get this energy up. Man, we we 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:47.400 we we are listen to fellow. Okay, let let me 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:48.920 take this thing on. We need some energy. Hit this 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.160 for it. People look to us as a way to 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.080 get away from this craziness. They look at us and say, listen, man, 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.760 I'm hanging with the boys for about an hour. I'm 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.080 getting my mind off the craziness. I'm getting my mind off. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.480 Someone may have lost a job, someone may be sick. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.920 Someone is looking to us for enjoyment, for happiness, for energy, 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.960 for enthusiasm. So let's find it, fellas. Let's bring it 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:13.800 this Monday morning. Man. Let's give the people what they're 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:17.120 used to. Let's bring it. Hang it with the boys style, man, 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:22.880 Come on, let's go. Man. We are blessed U be here. Jesse, Jesse, Jesse. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.960 You sound good, Jesse. But I don't know if it's 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.200 just my mind link or whatever, but you we got 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.039 every other words, so we gotta be happy. What did 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:34.800 what did? What? All? You need to already need to 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.279 hear about it? You know, we know you were happy. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.679 We know we got half of what being pumped up about. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:47.680 All you don't know about being pumped and being happy. Okay, 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.679 something going on with you, Mike, So we gotta figure 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.240 that out. So maybe, yeah, we'll see what's going on. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:53.920 So they you want to know if we're gonna talk 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.359 about anything football related? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Because you know, 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.920 because I changed my mind on a whole lot of 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.120 of things. I hate all because I go into deep 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.200 thought because I changed my mind on a whole lot 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:12.160 of things, and mainly this quarterback thing. Okay, why, well, 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.719 you know what I'm trying to say is, you know, 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:16.920 I've been on a couple of shows, I've listened to 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:20.720 people talk and last week, for some reason, should we 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:25.560 draft a quarterback? You know, in the later rounds? And 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.120 I'm and I got to thinking, you know, I got 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.359 to thinking. I guess part of Jesse got into me, 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.960 the voice of reason. Why do we need to be 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.560 trying to sign a quarterback when we have no defense 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:40.839 at all? That why would we waste a third, I 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:43.599 mean a fourth, a fifth or sixth round pick when 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.640 we need to be going to the bottom of the 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.160 barrel to get defensive players in in every way we can. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.160 So why should we worry about a quarterback? We got 0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:55.000 a guy we just chendered two million dollars. We've been 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:58.039 to pay another guy eighty five hundred million dollars. What 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:59.760 in the world is we talking about trying to get 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.520 another fifty thousand to somebody else, Get this to somebody 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.920 that can can actually get on the field. Agree or disagree, 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.360 I agree hundred percent. I don't know why they spend 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:12.920 to pick on a quarterback you already got at all, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.360 it's got locked up, or you'll have him locked up, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.160 and then you've got you know, you've got a young 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.480 developmental guy. I mean, I would think that they brought 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.280 in a backup quarterback, it'd be a veteran with a 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.120 little more experience. I don't know why they spend to 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:26.440 pick on a quarterback. Thank you. How do you feel 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:32.800 about that, Jesse? I'm I always take things. I always 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.760 take things with a grain of salt, because you know, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.120 we live in a day in time now where everybody 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.160 can post a mock drift and everybody has an opportunity 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.039 to say something. Everybody can post their thoughts and some 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:45.400 people just to me, and I'm not trying to criticize 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:49.320 or critique anyone seriously, but there's some people that just 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.360 should not be allowed to say certain things on certain matters. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.200 And I know people are trying to get clicks and 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.000 trying to get buzz and all that kind of stuff. 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.200 But that's the thing. We live in this day in 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.919 time where everyone has something to say, and because we 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.960 have the Internet, everyone can post their mind driving. Because 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.440 we have you know, the zooms and the YouTube of 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:08.200 the world, everyone can get in front of a phone 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.480 or camera and say here's your they should drive here 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:13.320 they should die, even if it makes no sense. It 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.800 has a guy like Nate Newton and deep thought, like wait, 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.680 what you know? So sometimes I always take that kind 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.000 stuff from grant of salt and I go, you know, 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.160 I hear certain things and I go, I'm not even 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.400 paying that any attention because that makes no sense for 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:30.200 what we're trying to do right now. I agree. I yeah, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.800 any other season, like, I've always wondered why they don't 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.720 just take a flyer on a quarterback, and you know, 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.440 it's been like a fifth or six round pick on 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.240 a guy that just that may work out. Odds are 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.520 they don't ever work out, but you know, neither do 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.400 a lot of the fifth or six round picks. So 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:49.600 every other year, I'm like, I would just take a 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.760 flyer every year, kind of like what the Patriots. Dude, 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:54.560 just try to hit on a guy. Maybe you get 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.920 a guy, maybe you know, Odds are you're not. But 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.680 this year I'm with you, guys. I think you need 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:03.080 so much help and so much depth that I don't 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.640 think you can waste to pick if you don't think 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.240 a guy has a chance at all to get on 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:09.960 the field, and there's no way you're letting a guy 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:12.000 get on the field everyday act this kind of money. 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.440 So I'm with you, guys, there's no way in hell 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.840 I draft a quarterback this year. And see, this is 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:23.240 what that Green Bay has always you know, Green Bay, 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.840 New England teams such as that, has always drafted quarterbacks. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.080 But understand, men, and I'm not saying that we're not 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:35.760 didn't have that here, But Mike McCarthy has always had 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.000 a certain time in the year where he would take 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.640 two and a half months and he would just focus 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.280 on his quarterbacks and their development and they would come 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:49.640 into account of some form working through his direction with 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.839 other people and build these guys up. Have you ever 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.320 heard of us? And when coach Garrett was here of 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.080 having that type of deal go on. Now, they were 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.240 too busy. They were too busy I d game. They 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.640 were too busy having beers at dude games. They were 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.200 too busy up in Tennessee. They were too busy, you know, 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.480 at the Kentucky Derby and do other things in that nature. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.160 And started being, uh, you know, out there doing some 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.439 real football stuff. They were, they were, they were, they 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.480 were sharing butt lights at dude games. Look at you 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.360 throwing the fire out here. He tried to break. He 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.719 tried to break some energy, ain't it. I guess so? 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:29.080 But we'll stop. We'll stop when you have a history, 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:31.760 Stop me when I'm telling a lie, Stop me when 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:36.160 I'm telling the lie. When you have a history like 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:40.040 New England has of developing quarterbacks, when you've had a 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:46.080 history like uh Green Bay has of developing quarterbacks, that 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.360 mean that you have to do something extra. And you know, 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:53.200 like I tell people, I know, it's certain teams and positions, 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.120 Like I know we're about Pittsburgh and wide receivers. If 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.959 anybody in this finding a wide receiver in his draft, 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.000 it's gonna be the Pittsburgh still is. I've never worried 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.880 about that. I've never worried about a three four devas. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.559 Even if anybody can find him, the Pittsburgh still is 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.720 can So it's certain teams has linked to certain positions 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.600 that but they spend that extra time or they have 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.360 that person within their program or the organization that say, 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.840 this is what a three four divas event looked like. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.760 This is what a wide receiver looked like. This is 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.800 a little knack I have for quarterbacks. You understand what 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.680 I'm trying to say here, Cowboys got that. Is there 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:35.560 any positions they've been good at. I'm gonna let Jest 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.640 answer that since he's been watching them closer to go 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:44.160 to the Duke Games. I think this is this has 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.559 been the biggest problem that the Cowboys have had in 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:49.640 the lives. I'll just say under the Jason Garrett era, 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.880 the biggest issue is guys outside of the first second round, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.840 and those guys you don't need much maturing or developing. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:59.640 A guy who's the first or second round pick right 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.360 coming with enough highly talented skills. That's why they were 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.160 drafted that high. The biggest problem with the Cowboys is 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.600 they have not been able to bring in guys. There's 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.800 guys here and there, but just overall bringing guys in 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.280 that third, four, fifth, sixth round and actually develop those 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.600 guys into players. So that way, now I can have 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.240 a guy who has a significant role on my team, 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:26.320 like a Dark Prescott for example, who is making six 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.880 hundred thousand dollars a year. If you get enough of 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.360 those guys in your rotation, splashed in a couple of 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:33.520 those first and second round picks, and now you have 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.000 a good balance of salary and players instead of having 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:39.040 all your players be at the high end of your 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.360 salary cap, and then you're trying to have these guys 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:44.440 who are down here really just pan out. If you 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.520 can bring it up with these guys now who are 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:49.480 making six hundred eight hundred thousand dollars, are in the 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:54.000 mix with those guys and giving you significant productivity on 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.760 the field, are in the mix with some of those 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.960 high level guys. That's how you formulate and build teams. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.319 If every year you're having to go into the draft 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:02.920 and find new players, and every year you have to 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.000 go in the fringe and find new payers because you 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.880 can't develop them in your own system, then that's going 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.320 to always leave you on the bad end of the 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.360 stick because it's going to cost you so much money 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.520 and you won't be able to keep that nucleus together 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.839 and build over time because your salary cap number will 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.680 be so high because you have to pay all these 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:22.720 high profile players to come in and try to win 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.160 right now. That has been the knock against Jason Garrett 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.000 and his culture staff over the last ten years. If 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.840 they have not been able to draft guys in those 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.680 lower rounds, those fourth, fifth, sixth rounds, and enough of 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.600 those guys they have a player here and there, but 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:39.040 having enough of those guys being drafted brought in developed 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.920 over time, and now that's how you keep your so 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.360 to speak, your farm system healthy and full, is that 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.480 you're able to bring guys in at a very low 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.120 cost and develop them into players that are able to 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.959 help you on Sunday in significant moments. I think the 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:57.000 Cowboys right now have about seven guys who have been 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:01.320 drafted on Date three. Seven guys on the roster right 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.920 now drafted on Day three, Tony Pollard, Dorn song st On, 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:10.559 Dalton Schultz, Xavier Woods, Noah Brown, Dak Prescott, and Anthony Brown. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:15.079 So you've got three starters out of that group, Xavier Woods, Prescott, 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:18.120 and Anthony Brown. I mean, is that which one and 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.560 on tent and only one of them you just excited about? Well, yeah, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.760 what Jesse's saying is, by the time you get to 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.560 that third or fourth year with these guys, you highly 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.360 excited about what they do. Now I'm not saying there 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.360 a great part of the team, but you excited, like 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:37.320 you know, like like a special teams guy. You're like, man, 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.600 we can't get rid of this guy. This guy's is it? 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:44.600 We brought him through our system. Anthony Brown, his first 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.760 year was great, his second year was kind of shaky, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.920 his third year was he got hurt. So it is 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.959 you want to be excited, not so much that they 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.160 are great players, because you had to develop these guys, 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:06.760 but what they do you're excited about, you know what development. Hey, Kurt, 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:09.160 hang on real quick because one of my favorite parts 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:12.680 of this show is I love to hear y'all's opinions 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.000 and I love to hear what you guys are saying, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.439 and I can't hear anything that Jesse saying. So we're 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.360 going to take a quick break a little early, try 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.360 to fix his microphone technical issues because I want to 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:29.360 hear what he has to say about this. So what 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.600 well we're gonna do is take this quick break because Jesse, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.760 I'm going to bring up something after this, and I'm 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.960 going to talk about social distancing and some things that 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.320 happened over the weekend as well. So we're going to 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.480 take a break on hear with Jesse. As I say, 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:46.720 I want to hear what Nate has to say, and 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:48.480 I definitely want to hear what Kurt has to say 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.200 because he's actually talking today on hanging with the Boys, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:56.720 we'll be right back after this commercial break. 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No, I've been out like for runs and 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.560 walk around the neighborhood and you know, driving to the 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:54.480 grocery every once in a while. So I've been around. Hey, Jesse, Kurt, Jesse, Kurt, 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:59.639 y'all there, Yeah, here, Jesse, you there, I'm here. I 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.480 don't believe we let him get get through that commercial 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:04.840 if we have a we have a tasted in of 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:10.440 the flavor when it get I don't believe, y'all let 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.160 this dude get through that. He made promises, didn't he? Yeah, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.160 we stop him? Is with flavor go where out the door? 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:20.560 Where does it go? You know what? I Am just 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.359 gonna quit telling you guys. Here's the way it works. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:27.000 Here's the way it works. Sponsorship will reach out to 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.320 me and they will have a great idea and they'll say, 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.480 what do you think about this? And I'll be like, oh, 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.000 the Fellas will love it. Yeah, let me make sure 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.359 they're on board. And then I tell you guys, and 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.840 you guys are, oh, hell yeah, that sounds awesome. Let's 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.840 do it. And then sponsorship will come back and be like, yeah, 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.000 well we did something happened. We're not able to get 0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:47.880 that done. Will this happened over him? We can't get 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.080 that done. So I'm just gonna quit telling you guys 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.840 anytime any of this comes up. I'm just gonna wait 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.000 and let you because I got your addresses now, so 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.639 I can just surprise you with all kinds of stuff. 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.960 Let me say this right head. I got an email 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.919 from a person that was going to bring in something 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.120 and then then it was cut off, like, oh no, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.399 Shannon got something going, so I can't. So I'm like, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:16.440 I got that this other product because Shannon got something. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.160 I'm not letting you make it. Shannon. I am not 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.760 letting you. It's not on me. It's not my fault. 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:29.320 It's extenuating circumstances out of my control. Adapt and overcome 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:35.600 my brother Me and Jess and Kurt have Okay, okay, 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.040 I'll do that. I will do that, all right. So 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.520 let's pick up where we left off. Kurt, what what 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.640 what was your point drafting? Well, we're talking about day 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.720 three and then the number of players on the roster 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:49.919 and that sort of thing. Is it? Are they choosing 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.320 the wrong guys? Are they not developing the guys? I 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:55.960 think I think, I think it's a litit of boat. 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.399 And what I mean by that, and I'll legest to 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:02.320 take this is you got I think you're getting the 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.440 right guys. But the culture, the culture somewhere in there, 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.719 the culture you hungry the first year. We see all 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:12.639 this greatness in the first year, and we expect, we 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.959 at least expect that the next year what you gave us, 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.240 at least from the year before, and all of a 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.440 sudden you drop off of a clip. That's the culture 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:25.359 of I've arrived. And guys should not feel that way, 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.520 at least at least I never felt that way as 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.760 a as a free agent to my eighth ninth year. 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:36.800 You know, I think I know the way to your 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.680 eighth or ninth a year. Yeah, man, Because they kept 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:44.000 it was just about competition. They always brought in guys. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.800 They always was drafting alignment here, alignment there, and the 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.080 first guy they come up, Yeah, but let's replace the 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.200 fact got over there right guard or that fat guy 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.680 left guard. I'm like, wow, every year they've been coming 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.480 at me, brother. And then when Jimmy got here, that's 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.600 when I really um and Jimmy. When Jimmy Johnessy got 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.280 here and Charles Hayler got here, and that's when I 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:05.040 really took off as an athlete and as a person. 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:09.919 What was it like coming in, I mean, it had 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:11.720 been a few years since the team had done much 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.280 in the playoffs. Did you get a sense of entitlement 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:19.120 from the from the team? A sense of entitlement? Yes, 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:22.520 And I think this is just a part of the brand. 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:26.240 When you're a Dallas Cowboy, everyone's a star. Like literally, 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.199 everyone's a star. I came in as a guy who 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:32.199 came off a reality TV show, and people wanted me 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.159 to come on radio shows and do autograph signings and 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:38.200 do TV stuff. I mean, and that's the biggest part 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:41.600 of it is that everyone has this brand. Everyone feels 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:44.359 as if they're actually bigger than I had done nothing. 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.760 I had done nothing, but when a reality TV show, 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.919 and people wanted me a part of their stuff. People 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.399 wanted me there. I think the biggest thing with this 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.280 Cowboys team, and for a long time they've been one 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.600 of the youngest teams in the National Football League, and 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.360 with youth there comes a lack of experience, that comes 0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:04.800 a lack of accountability. I think when you see the 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.800 really good teams, there's this good mixture of veteran guys, 0:22:09.040 --> 0:22:11.840 older guys who have accomplished some things in life and 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.639