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Speaker 1: dot Com and the officials Dallas Cowboys Dad and now

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Josh Ellis, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon

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Speaker 1: Gross Volume five, issue twenty something. It's August twenty third,

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and this is Hanging with the Boys. I

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Speaker 1: am Josh Ellis behind that microphone. Is Kurt Daniels behind

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Speaker 1: that microphone? Big sexy Nate Newton here with us? And

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Speaker 1: guess who is missing as us? Shannon Gross is trying

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Speaker 1: to Shannon's hard at work. He's trying to run down

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Speaker 1: Rod Smith, which if he's anything like those linebackers from

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Speaker 1: the Colts, he's going to have a hard time. Yes

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Speaker 1: he will. Man. Man, it's just great to be back

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Speaker 1: another day, man, and trying to get this ain't going on.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to listen to much of

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Speaker 1: And he actually had a couple of comments about Rod

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Speaker 1: show up. He coach thought that playing fullback last year

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Speaker 1: advise him to go low, don't go high. That's a

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Speaker 1: for the event that that happens. And in the meantime, UM,

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Speaker 1: set up. This is, of course, the first time the

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Speaker 1: So we're true left acts Rod. What does that feel like?

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Speaker 1: it yet. It's just weird. Did did the T shirt

428
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: make it to Costa Rica? It's a black T shirt,

429
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: so in that sun it wouldn't have been good. We

430
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: got to hook you up to Nate. You have any

431
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: Tommy John, Nah man, I'm I'm all right, Tommy and

432
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: me Tommy, it to be cool. I'll work on you

433
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: in Douglas's swag. I need to do that as soon

434
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: as I get back to my gut my desk. Okay,

435
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: star marks the spot, star marks the spot. So the

436
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: D line weren't real sure what that was gonna look like.

437
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: Now it's uh. Cedric Thornton returned to practice yesterday and

438
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: was taking some reps I believe with the first team,

439
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: and then some news came out. I think Jason Garrett

440
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: said that Tyrone Crawford's injuried in as bad as initially thought.

441
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: And well, they're not saying he's definitely gonna be back

442
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: by the opener, right, but he is working working towards that.

443
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: So I guess the question for you boys is, with

444
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: Cedric Thornton returning, what does that look like? Who does

445
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: that leave on the outside looking in? And then if

446
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: Tyrone makes it back for the first game, does that

447
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: change the way this thing looks now? And if it does,

448
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: what does that look like? First of all, Tyrone for

449
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: me is I want him close to as healthy as

450
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: he can be. We do not need another year of Okay,

451
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: he was banged up, he was injured. He needs to

452
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: take his time and get back as close as he

453
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: can to where he was doing training camp. You know,

454
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: if you if you you're saying, don't put him at Yeah,

455
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: we need we need him at eighty five at least

456
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: coming back now the season of banging him up enough,

457
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: But we don't need you coming in at seventy. All

458
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're looking at a seventy percent Crawford

459
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: the whole year. That's not that's not going to benefit

460
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: us at any Now. I'm with you that seventy percent

461
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: of Tyrone Crawford is not some dynamic player or anything.

462
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: But is seventy percent of Tyrone Crawford better than Richard

463
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: Ashe or Joey Ivy or Jordan Carroll. I mean, that's

464
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: that's the decision that that they've they've got to make,

465
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: is there. I mean, look on the defensive line, they're

466
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: missing some folks at the start of the season, so

467
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 1: I mean they gotta roll somebody out there. Well, you know,

468
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: let's just see how it plays out. I mean, the

469
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: suspensions are big. I mean, you got what's our starting guys,

470
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: ninety uh, ninety six, fifty five and ninety three. That's

471
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: the starters, right Lawrence Collins Y and Mayo Mayo. Yeah, yeah,

472
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: that's your starters. You got. You can count on Taco

473
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: Charlton as one of the ends. You got, uh tap

474
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: tappers another guy. And is he okay because he was

475
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: they said in the press conference to day, you know

476
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: he left with a neck. Yeah, he may not pray,

477
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: he's day to day. They said, um, Hyed didn't practice

478
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: yesterday with a knee issue, and they said that's chronic,

479
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: not chronic, but it's something he's gonna have to manage

480
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: all season. I think they said Mayo was got a

481
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: knee issue too, He's gonna have to manage all season.

482
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this a little bit in

483
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: one of the first shows we did after camp started.

484
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: But when you have Demontre Moore and David Irving and

485
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: and the ghost of of what's his name that they

486
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: in the second round company, Randy Gregory, you're just you're

487
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: just missing guys and so like once on cutdown date

488
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: or right before it, when it's when maybe you can

489
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: make some trade. I would expect that that's in Dan Tackle.

490
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: I would expect them to be looking to add people,

491
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: just bodies, just getting free agents in here. I think

492
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: they'll stay pat who they got, and so of the

493
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: IVY guys and all of these that you're talking about,

494
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: maybe one or two of them guys would be there

495
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: for one or two games until the Mantrey get back.

496
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: It's a good opportunity for Ivy and Carol and Ash

497
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: because if all those guys were healthy or not facing suspension,

498
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: those guys probably aren't gonna be around with the seasons

499
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: one or two them and be practice squad guys something

500
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: like that. But who on the street, you know, who

501
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: that we know is gonna be on the street. I mean,

502
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a mad rush with those final cuts

503
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: or trying to so you made a lot of teams

504
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: may just stick with their own guys and hey, you know,

505
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: at least we know what this guy is or where

506
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: he's at now this year, they only have one big cut, right,

507
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's gonna be a mad you know,

508
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: Scot's gonna be all over the place making calls and

509
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: trying to find out who's on the wave a wide,

510
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be it's gonna be ugly now because

511
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: normally you get to monitor that and there's a few weeks. Yeah,

512
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: the day you know, after this third game you got cuts.

513
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: Now you've got you're releasing guys back out into the wild,

514
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, can you keep you know,

515
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: it's like letting the damn breaks and all the fisher loose,

516
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Like how do you how do you keep tabs on

517
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: those and catch the ones you need? So that's gonna

518
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: be an interesting dynamic this year or whenever final cuts?

519
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Do we know what day that is? Is that the

520
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: day after sept him a second September, second week from Saturday,

521
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: right so a week from Saturday right after that. It's

522
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 1: gonna ruin some people's barbecue. Man, it's gonna make some

523
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: people's barbecue. But I'm with you, you know, we're gonna

524
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: if they deem him able to play. He's ready to

525
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: play TIERN. But I just would like to see him

526
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: one time at eighty five percent of better, just at

527
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: least starting the season. We don't know how what you

528
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: would be once you get banged up and how to

529
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:15,479
Speaker 1: season goal. But the good thing I would say is,

530
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: at least it's not a shoulder again. It's not that

531
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: same thing that we know has slowed him down for

532
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: for the last couple of years. I mean, this is

533
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: the ankle. M I right. If you can get the

534
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: ankle right, and if the shoulders okay or as good

535
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 1: as it's going to be, then then he's he's got

536
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: a chance to be maybe not as dominant as he

537
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago, but but a as

538
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: as good as they got in the middle. Yeah, I'm

539
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: with you. If it was a shoulder and achilles again,

540
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: I think that's you know, that's a lot bigger deal

541
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: than it just being an ankle. So because now MALIEK.

542
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: Collins is your your is your big dog and and uh,

543
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: hi you, I'll pay you when you go by. He

544
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: he own some life. Let's talk about him. He's the

545
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: guy that Cowboys fans probably not real familiar with. And

546
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: then they you know, most people aren't watching the one

547
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: technique in preseason games. So what have you seen from

548
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: Stephen Paya? Just a penetrate. A man got been showing

549
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: nice hands, nice get off. I mean, coach Marinetta got off.

550
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: Just about every guy getting off in sync with Tapper.

551
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: My market is can you catch Tapper? We're getting off

552
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: the rock, and now guys are starting to be able

553
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: to get off the rock with him and then when

554
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: you're in the middle and you can get penetration. And

555
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: he started out slow the first week or so, but

556
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: once uh, but League got in there and they just

557
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 1: seemed like him. They just went hand in hand and

558
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: they were battling. I at three inside guys. It was

559
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: a dog fight, every pass rush, every uh when they run,

560
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: even when they run fit these guys. These two guys

561
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: were wreck and so fifty five is um now is

562
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: he a bull guy or is he a technique guy

563
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: or is he both? He loves to get only with

564
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: a bull, but he can turn it into he can

565
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: turn it into quickness too. But I mean he can

566
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: he can make your hand, he can make your hands

567
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: missed too. The projection for you then is that he's

568
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: not like Nick Hayden, who's who's a best gonna be

569
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: like a space eater maybe take a double team sometimes.

570
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: See the thing about him, he can do a little

571
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: bit of all of it. He can he can eat

572
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: space up, you know, and he anchors pretty good. Uh.

573
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: He is a bull guy, but he's he's a movement guy.

574
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: You know. That's what Marinelli likes. He don't mind having

575
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: the the guy that can eat up blocks and stuff

576
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: like that. But if he prefer a guy that can,

577
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: that's gonna make you make the block more difficult and

578
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: you have a chance to make a play. Piya has

579
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: a chance to make a play. He's a Marinelli guy,

580
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: right Yeah, with Chicago, with me Nelly, so this could

581
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: be a great fit for him. Yeahs twin brother as well.

582
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: Didn't know that till Camp and the whole family showed

583
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: up and every one of them looks alike. They don't

584
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: all look alike, Shannon, that's wrong. I do like as

585
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: we go back to the numbers rankings that I did

586
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: last year for the whole roster, I do like a

587
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: defensive tackle wearing fifty five. That's cool to me. You

588
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: like that, And it's just it's too sad that they

589
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: didn't save it for Rolando. I thought Rolando was coming back.

590
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: Did that just will blanket on all those hopes? I guess. So, Yeah,

591
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: whatever happened to that did Did they ever get a

592
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: letter from him or anything? You know what, technically, he's

593
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: just like I think, quit answering. It's a great question.

594
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: Find that out next time you talk to Will they

595
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: find that out? For us? Garret and Garrett's talking about

596
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: the defensive lines to um. Garrett said in the press

597
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: conference that Collins was the engine of the train up

598
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: front that makes it all happen as far as getting

599
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: pressure and all that. And he also said that Lawrence

600
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: is looking He's impressed with Lawrence. He thinks he's healthy.

601
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: First time he's been healthy in a long while. He

602
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: looks better. I'm telling he looks better at that left

603
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: defensive ven and he does that the right. It's just

604
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: sometime when he catches on fire that left defensivn. Boy,

605
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: he is like he's got just a variety of moves

606
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: at all of them are It's where he got all

607
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: his sex a few years ago when he left he man,

608
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: he is he is bawling. I mean, he is playing

609
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: with Uh he's back relentless is what I should say.

610
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean, and uh, that's a good thing. What about

611
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: Cedric Thornton does What can we expect out of him?

612
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: You know they I think they kind of expected a

613
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: little more than what maybe what they got last year

614
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: and he's been banged up all the preseason. Is that

615
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: going to be a guy that we can expect any

616
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,959
Speaker 1: kind of production from or is he just a guy

617
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: that's or is he just a body right now? What

618
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: do you guys think about him? I I wouldn't expect

619
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: better than you got last ye year. Just guys that

620
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: have to take that kind of pounding from play in

621
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: and play out. I think that they're gonna peak at

622
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: about twenty four or twenty five, and after that you're

623
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: gonna just the wear and tear is going to get

624
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: to them. So he missed a lot of time last year,

625
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: and by the time he got back, the rotation had

626
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: sort of worked out a different way. I don't have

627
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not expecting Randy White or anything. I

628
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: think that I think that he's as much as anything,

629
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: he's he's the space eater guy. Yeah, and this and

630
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: the last few years, this defensive line has been just

631
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: kind of they're able and you know it, it it goes

632
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: back to I think Marionelli. They're able to just get

633
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: just guys get him off the couch and then they

634
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: wind up putting this thing together. And you don't really

635
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: have any big names on the line, but they seem to, yeah,

636
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: end and not break. Is that kind of what we're

637
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: looking at again this year? Are we're going to see

638
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: one of these young guys step up, and you know

639
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: your Tap or your Malik, your Paia, or to see

640
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: one of them breakthrough and get more than ten sacks.

641
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: I think my Lak broke through right last year. Now,

642
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: it's wrong to expect ten sacks from from any defensive tackle.

643
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: It's not named Leroy Glover or John randall Um. There

644
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: aren't very many of them. I'm just talking about across

645
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: the line in general. Like, is anyone gonna hit ten

646
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: sacks this year? My guess is no, Lawrence might be,

647
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna spell, They're gonna split reps too too much

648
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: to begin with. Unless a guy shows the ability to

649
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: be consistent when he's in there, you know, you can't think, well,

650
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: this is how it goes with a coach. Let's let's

651
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: use David Irvan as that example. If Dave Irvin get

652
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: out to a good start, once he get back, Marcus

653
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: moments to be even better because he'll be there from

654
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: the start. Let's say he get off to a good start,

655
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: he get him a cup of sacks in two or

656
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: three games, he get four sacks. Well, all pass the situations,

657
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: whether he just ran off the field or not. He

658
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: back on the field a coach realized that, Okay, this

659
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: guy's hot, let's don't mess with this. We'll rotate right

660
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: around him. Everybody moved two men over because this guy's

661
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: not moving. So that's how it go. But until somebody

662
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 1: shows that, they'll keep rotating the men, hoping somebody get

663
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: a hot hand. Because you gotta remember last year, was

664
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: it two years ago? Last year when David Ever had

665
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: those two or three sacks, and you know they won't

666
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: take our opportunities. Yeah, they weren't taking them out of

667
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: the game then because he's hot. I mean, you go

668
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: with the hot end. But we just haven't had anybody

669
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: to get hot and get consistent when it comes to sacks.

670
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: Lawrence is a really interesting case because this is his

671
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: contract year, and I don't know what you do with him.

672
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: I think if he hits the open market, he gets

673
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: one of these stupid contracts that teams are giving out,

674
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: especially to defensive end. I mean, this guy in the

675
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: open market might make my get like thirteen million dollars

676
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: a year. And if I'm the Cowboys, I look at

677
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: the last three years and I don't see a guy

678
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: who's who's worth that. So but then you know you

679
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: have to be really comfortable with who's left, or you're

680
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: back in the draft, um going after another first round

681
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: defensive end. And maybe you are anyway, So that's that's

682
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: it's a big year for him and it's a it's

683
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 1: a tough question for them to try and figure out

684
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: over the next six months. It's just it's just scary

685
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 1: that that you don't have that guy, even take away

686
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: to suspensions, you don't have that guy that you can say, Okay, fellows,

687
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: this is our bail cow and this is I'm hoping

688
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: it's MALIEK. Collins. You know that's that's that's even doing

689
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: an off season, that's been my guy, Malie Collins. And

690
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, the scary thing. We're just talking about the

691
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: defensive line. But I don't think you have other than

692
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: maybe Sean Lee, I don't think you have that guy

693
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: anywhere on that side of the ball. I mean, you

694
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: got some solid players, you got some good guys, and

695
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: you got some ben but don't break guys. But you

696
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: don't really have I mean, look at offense, you've got

697
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: studs all the way around, offensive line, quarterback, running back,

698
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: wide receiver tied in. Well, you go to the other

699
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: side of the ball, there's not a quote that's that's

700
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: partially why you have all those guys on offense and

701
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: why your defense is so barrens because they've made that

702
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: commitment to the offense. They've they've picked three off three

703
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: you know, offensive line in the first round and then

704
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: picked a running back to run behind them anyway, in

705
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: the first round. They paid Terrence Williams instead of Brandon Carr,

706
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: stuff like that. They've they've made that decision to invest

707
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: more heavily on the on the offense and hope that

708
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli can cover it together on the defense. And oh,

709
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: by the way, I think that that's also why you're

710
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: seeing some suspensions on defense, is because they've taken chances

711
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: on guys who, um maybe they otherwise wouldn't, just to

712
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: try and get some talent in there. And I mean,

713
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: do you hate that? Do you hate that they've invested

714
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: so much in the offense. I mean, it is what

715
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: it is because you you that, uh, and that's what

716
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad he did. You gotta make a decision to

717
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: be strong somewhere this year. Okay, let's get a tack

718
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: defense next year. Oh, let's get a wide receiver next year. Oh,

719
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: let's get a safety. Okay, you have no core of nothing.

720
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: And then by the time you get to draft the cornerback,

721
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: then then the other cornerback is left every agent and

722
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: like you're constantly like playing whack a mole trying to

723
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: build these positions. And you know, I they have an

724
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: identity and five, five, six years ago, and before that,

725
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: they didn't really have an identity. They they they do

726
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: have that now and it's the offensive line. And you

727
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: could make an argument I did at the time that

728
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: then maybe that's why they don't need to spend such

729
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: a high pick on Ezekiel Elliott. You could make an

730
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: argument I did at the time that maybe that's why

731
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: they don't need to spend seven million dollars a year

732
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: to resign Terrence Williams, because you know, you've got guys

733
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: who can as good, are almost as good, but you've

734
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: got the other side of the ball that needs some attention. Well,

735
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: they're hoping Jalen Smith will turn into one of those

736
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: playmakers that's eight games away. Yeah, you know, they they

737
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: made their commitment, which I didn't care whether it was

738
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: a defensive commitment or offensive commitment, but you had to

739
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: commit one way or other they did that. Now they

740
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: have a coach that you gotta be happy in Marnella

741
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: because he keeps it simple. Can you imagine having somebody

742
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: like a ryaning in here and guys literally not knowing

743
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: where to go and what to do, so it fits

744
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: what these guys do. Now, what we need to happen

745
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: is for Cedric Thornton to play, to play, not come

746
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: up and be half doing it. We need for a

747
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: charge and to understand that you cannot take plays off.

748
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: You have to the Payc's on now versus from the

749
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game to now, He's improved every week

750
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: and we have to continue to see that. We need

751
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: for these young guys in the secondary to get healthy

752
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: and to play and to compete. We're not asking you

753
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: to have perfect technique. We know that's got to come

754
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: over time. We're not asking you we know you may

755
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: have some blown assignments, which we never want that as

756
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: a coach, but we need you to come play hard.

757
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: We need you to come play fast, and that'll come

758
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: up for a lot of your weaknesses. And that's what

759
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: Cedric Thornton hasn't given us. With consistency, that's where Benson

760
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: Mayowa hasn't given us with consistency, and that's where they're

761
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: hoping that the Louis Neil or Lenny Jones or Joy

762
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: Ivy or whoever can play hard all the time. And

763
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: I took up back to Jalen Smith. Do you think

764
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: that he's not starting against the Giants week one? Do

765
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna take six weeks into the regular

766
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: season before, assuming no setbacks, He's you know, up to

767
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: speed and got his angles all right, and he's ready

768
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: to be a starter. I just think what I what

769
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: I saw on film is I saw a guy at

770
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: the beginning of a training camp who was fresh, looked good,

771
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: was running, you know, sometimes looked like he played on

772
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: one leg, but he was. He was spry. Well. This

773
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: last past game, I saw him going there. He made

774
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: that one stop, he bounced around out of that. And

775
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: then in practice two days ago, I saw him jump

776
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: up an air, come down and jam his feet in

777
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 1: the ground and he took off the run and looked

778
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: like one of them commercials the little cartoons were taking

779
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: eight hundred steps to go to go to yards. So see,

780
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 1: I tell people, you know, and y'all all never y'all

781
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 1: a rally ever hear me say this right here, because

782
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: we all gather that information how we get it. But

783
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: sometimes you got to stop and look at the film.

784
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: And in this case, we have to look at the

785
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: film on Jayla because the doctors probably looked at it.

786
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: The coaches probably when we know the coaches and scousel there,

787
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: but they were because I'm telling you he jumped up,

788
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you got a chance to

789
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: see he jumped up. I mean hot that when he

790
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: was chasing them. Yeah, he showed that. He showed he

791
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: was athletic. He jumped up and as he was jumping,

792
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: he was he was churning. But when he hit the ground,

793
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: it jarred him and he went to run. Man, It's

794
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: like he hadn't went three yards. I'm like, whoa, And

795
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: that happened just play out the playout to play. So

796
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: that led me to believe that at some point you

797
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: have to let him fatigue that leg. And that's what

798
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: I think they've taken him through. Now now that leg

799
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: can pop back to mar and I'll be but I

800
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: thought Nate said, I'm just saying, I'm just telling you

801
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: what I saw on film. I think that's the big

802
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: thing is consistency. Last year, we saw flashes from David

803
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: Irving toward the end of the year, Vincent Mayoa, you know, Malik.

804
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: If they can build on that momentum, bring it to

805
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: this year and just stay consistent, you know, not get

806
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: two sacks this game, three sacks this game, and then

807
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: you don't hear from them for four or five games.

808
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be the whether this is

809
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: a solid defensive line or whether it's just Josh checked

810
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: this out last year. I secondary, as much as we

811
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: banged on him in Bang, I secondary played last year

812
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: as a unit, they played. Okay, do you think Scandrick,

813
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: Carol and Brown as good as what we had last

814
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 1: year in our secondary? With Heath added, do you think

815
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: they're better than what we had last year? No? Okay,

816
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: So that that I'll tell you that these guys got

817
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: to be flying around and more important. Our secondary now

818
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: truly hasn't nowhere to be all starts up front. So

819
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna take another quick break when we get back.

820
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about that Dez thing. And then running

821
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: back is not the only rotation that's that's kind of

822
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,440
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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on you know who

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00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: do you guys? Nate and I talked a little bit

825
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: about it, and I think Kurt too at camp Josh.

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Speaker 1: What's our what's our next Star? Issue? Is that the

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Speaker 1: Season recap everywhere? So after the super Bowl, after the

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Speaker 1: preview again. Awesome. I want to get your thoughts on

889
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Speaker 1: some things. Well, let's say the desk piece for last,

890
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: because we could make that real short if we get

891
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: into some really deep tight end talk. That's what she said.

892
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Speaker 1: So you got just firing him out, firing him out there,

893
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Speaker 1: even the terrible ones. So you got Jason Witten that

894
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Speaker 1: you know, that's a staple. He's gonna be there. He's

895
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Speaker 1: on this team you've got. Do you think he's gonna

896
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Speaker 1: make it? I think he's gonna make it. I'm pretty

897
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Speaker 1: sure he's gonna make it. Josh, how much time he

898
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Speaker 1: takes off during games and they get or they they

899
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Speaker 1: won't let him out on the field, I'm not real

900
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Speaker 1: sure about that. I don't think you don't think he's

901
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Speaker 1: gonna let that happen. I kind of agree with that. Um,

902
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: you got Jeff Swain, you got James Hannah that's back

903
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Speaker 1: and healthy, and then you got project Rico Gathers that

904
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Speaker 1: I think they just have threw him out there the

905
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Speaker 1: first two preseason games because they really wanted to see, Okay,

906
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Speaker 1: is this what we think it could turn into? Not bad,

907
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Speaker 1: not bad touchdown? Each of those games made some some

908
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Speaker 1: really athletic plays. He's he's been hurt this week and

909
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Speaker 1: hasn't practiced. So I wanted to get your thoughts on

910
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: who do you keep four tight ends? If you do that,

911
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Speaker 1: do you lose the fullback? Which is you know now

912
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Speaker 1: keismiss your fullback? Do you keep three tight ends? Because

913
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Speaker 1: I don't think any of these guys are going to

914
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Speaker 1: the practice squad if they don't make the roster. That's

915
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Speaker 1: just my opinion. So how do you how do you

916
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Speaker 1: approach this? What do you guys think? Well, it just

917
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Speaker 1: so happens that I went through and did a little

918
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Speaker 1: roster projection this morning when you sent over the rundown.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for not making fun of the run down

920
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Speaker 1: preparation here. Yeah, I had a little time to kill

921
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Speaker 1: and i'd seen little David Hellman tweeting about how it's

922
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: just so hard to how do you narrow it down

923
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Speaker 1: to fifty three? They got too many good players, and

924
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: I didn't have that much trouble. I kept I kept

925
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Speaker 1: four tight ends, I kept three quarterbacks, I kept nine

926
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Speaker 1: offensive linean The thing to remember is that you've got

927
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Speaker 1: a lot of these guys who were going to be

928
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Speaker 1: suspended for the start of the year, So you may

929
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Speaker 1: have some tougher decisions to make a month end of

930
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Speaker 1: the season than you have to make to get to

931
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Speaker 1: fifty three. One place where I went short to make

932
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Speaker 1: this happen is I only kept um the full back

933
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Speaker 1: and two running backs. I cut Alfred Morris. I don't

934
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Speaker 1: think that they need Alfred mores. I don't think that

935
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Speaker 1: he brings um any special dimension that that Rod Smith

936
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Speaker 1: and and um Darren McFadden don't. And when when Elliott

937
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Speaker 1: is eligible, I think he probably will be the odd

938
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Speaker 1: man out. So yeah, I think that all four tight ends.

939
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Speaker 1: I think I think Jeff Swaim's a pretty good blocker.

940
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: When when he got hurt last year, UM a lot

941
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: of people thought that they noticed a difference in the

942
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: running game with Gavin Escobar blocking. I think that m

943
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: James Hannah, while he hasn't really been used uh this way.

944
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Speaker 1: I think he has some potential as a receiver, and

945
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: I think Ricco has potential as a receiver. I still

946
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Speaker 1: think that Rico probably gets gets gray shirted all year.

947
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Speaker 1: You know I've practice suh no, just inactive. Yes, all

948
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Speaker 1: of these tight ends except Rico can can can do,

949
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Speaker 1: They can catch, they can run decent routes, and they

950
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Speaker 1: can block everybody except Rico. Rico just has to learn

951
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Speaker 1: his assignments and who to block, when to come off.

952
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Speaker 1: And once he learned those small things, then he'll be

953
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Speaker 1: in nextlace. Is that where he struggles most is blocking

954
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Speaker 1: or is it route running or you know we've see

955
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Speaker 1: him he's got hands. Let me say this right here.

956
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: Listen up, everybody who cares about break it down this dude.

957
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: You know, I hear brought us and men brought us

958
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Speaker 1: pretty tight. And I listen to a lot what he

959
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Speaker 1: says because he's very knowledgeable. I don't care if he's

960
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: still he catches the ball if he can, then turns

961
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: me because we are we're well, we're forty nine fifty

962
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: team when it comes to run past depending on who

963
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: we're playing. So blocking is an issue. We cannot waste

964
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Speaker 1: a position if you cannot block. You know, now, I

965
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: don't know where he's at on special teams, and I'm

966
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 1: talking about mister Rico, but you know, every time I

967
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Speaker 1: see him running routes seem like it's the ball in

968
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Speaker 1: his hand and he's running somewhere with so I all

969
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: the route running. I don't know what he's talking about

970
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: on that, but not the but the better the run blocking,

971
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: he has to do a little bit better, a whole

972
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: lot better. He may still be a ways off from it,

973
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: but nobody worries worried about like Shannon Sharp's blocking, Nobody

974
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: cared about Antonio Gates block not even do that now.

975
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: I think Shannon was a little bit better than Antonioka.

976
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: I think Tonio got to the point where man I

977
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Speaker 1: just needed the yardage, not worried about blocking. Kurt, what

978
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: do you see the what's your projections on the tight ends?

979
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Speaker 1: The same way? I mean, they're they're kind of at

980
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: a point they either keep him or lose him, and

981
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: I don't think they're ready to lose him. I think

982
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: they're like the progress he's made. He like Nate said,

983
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: he can't catch the ball and he can't catch it

984
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: man and hopefully with his size and athleticism, the blocking

985
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: will come. So there's gonna come a game this year

986
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: when he's got to play. I mean, if if you

987
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: got three tight ends, somebody's getting hurt at some point,

988
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be Jason Witten, but one of the

989
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: other two is the ankle sprain. And the last two

990
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: or three years, one of their tight ends has been hurts.

991
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: And there's every position group on on the roster pencil

992
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: and one injury at least at some point in the

993
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: year because you're gonna need the depth, and there's no

994
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 1: way any of these guys get to the practice squad.

995
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: There's too much down out there on all of them, right.

996
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so, I would think. I know one thing,

997
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: just my personal at a Witton, which is shoeing. You know,

998
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: to me, Hannah used to have a big lead over Swain.

999
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: To me, you don't have that big lead over Swain.

1000
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: Now's that because how much time he's missed? Or is

1001
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: that just because Swayin is regretted himself? Yeah, now that is.

1002
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Speaker 1: That's not to say that Hannah's just holding back because

1003
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Speaker 1: you want to make sure he's one hundred percent healthy

1004
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: with with with the injury. So but but now I

1005
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Speaker 1: like I like both of those guys a lot. I

1006
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Speaker 1: like both of them a lot. Yeah, well, the last

1007
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: few minutes, let's get into some fun talk. Does fielded

1008
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: a punt and practice yesterday? Dan Skipper fielded a punt

1009
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: and practice Skipper did? I doubt we would ever see

1010
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: Dan Skipper do a punt in a field, a punt

1011
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: in a game. That would be awesome, though, what do

1012
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: you guys think? He's probably, you know, one of, if

1013
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: not your, most dynamic player on the team. Seems to

1014
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: get separation and away from people more after he has

1015
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands and any other person, maybe

1016
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: other than Zeke. Why not throw him out there and

1017
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: just see, let's is a is it a risk reward

1018
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 1: type deal? Is it a just you know, it's a risk.

1019
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: It's definitely a risk. But isn't that risk worth it

1020
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: if you can better your field position for twenty thirty

1021
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: yards on a punt. But the risk isn't his injury,

1022
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: him getting injured. The risk is will he play it

1023
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: safe when he needs to. That's why he lost the

1024
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: punt return job to begin with, because he was fielding

1025
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Speaker 1: punts at like the four yard line, catching him over

1026
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: his shoulder running backwards. I think if you're in a situation,

1027
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: for me, if you're in a situation at the end

1028
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Speaker 1: of the game where you need a big a big

1029
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: return or something that absolutely stick him out there. But

1030
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Speaker 1: that's Bryant is twenty eight years old now, he's not

1031
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: as spry as he was when he was twenty one

1032
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: getting into the league, and you get fresh young legs

1033
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: out there who you don't need on offense nearly as

1034
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: bad as you need Doz Bryant. So I think his

1035
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: first professional touchdown was a punt return against the Bears.

1036
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Speaker 1: I think so. But you know they drafted Ryan Switzer

1037
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Speaker 1: to return punts, So assuming that he has as a

1038
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: hamstring that's attached when the season starts, and he can

1039
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Speaker 1: return punts. So a no for Josh Kurt, I would

1040
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: lean towards a note too, it's too much. I want

1041
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: him on offense. I want him available and guys like

1042
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: Beasley and hopefully Switzer can hopefully provide enough flash and

1043
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: flare and yardage too. You'd be all right with that, Brian,

1044
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: keep him on off Nate. I'm with Josh for as

1045
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: if he's a big play scenario that you can get

1046
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: him in there. You know, I remember Derek Green for

1047
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: the red Skins used to be that guy to Sean

1048
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: Jackson for when he played with the Eagles. He was

1049
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: that guy. Not not know every time, but when the

1050
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: game is tight and on the line, and you know

1051
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: he's stating on the twenty on his twenty, you know

1052
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: the game is on the line. I got to win.

1053
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: So ain't no risk me, you know, risk the from me.

1054
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: I got to win because at the end of the day,

1055
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you can walk away

1056
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: with your head down saying, wow, I thought I should

1057
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: have would all you can say, well, we took a shot.

1058
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: I think the coaches are torn knee or something. Punk

1059
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: guys getting it get it all the time on It

1060
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: could happen on offense. And you know, did you see

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Speaker 1: the kid from the Giants, ll Beckham Jr. This defensive

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Speaker 1: player did not try to hurt him. But that was

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Speaker 1: a freak accident. Yeah, I mean, who would have thought

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Speaker 1: that would have happened? Was that on a point return?

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Speaker 1: That was a kickoff return. It's just it happens. We

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Speaker 1: see Zeke cut back across the field, all the thing

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Speaker 1: on the thing we hear is tyrone crawl a holiday,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and and and be honest, now, if

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Speaker 1: you was looking, that was almost Zeke was almost in

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00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: a walk through mode. So I'm serious, did you see it?

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Speaker 1: It just I mean, this team has had a guy

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Speaker 1: get hurt playing paintball within the last Yeah, Danian Wilson,

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Speaker 1: I'll be want to talk about swimming with sharks. I

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00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: was like, we'll keep his elbow inside the cage then yeah,

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Speaker 1: and Dan Man, you hear me fattily let his kid

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00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: leg get to off shark. It's definitely a contact sport

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Speaker 1: that you don't have to even make contact to get injured. Sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Kurt, if it if it's seven to

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Speaker 1: seven fourth quarter and it's Green Bay, I'm putting Dad's

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Speaker 1: back then because I don't need a Rodger running. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: I want to see it. I want to see it.

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Speaker 1: That's all the time we have for today. Happy cowboys,

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01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: Happy cowboys, for Josh, Kurt Nay. You have will always

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Speaker 1: be like that, I hope. So. Just so y'all asked

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01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: about it every day. Anything to aggravate y'all, it looks

1086
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: like you're the guy from smash Mouth. I don't know.

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01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come in here with a different every day.

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01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: Just say, y'all ask me about it. We will see

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Speaker 1: you guys tomorrow. I think we're going at twelve thirty

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01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: again tomorrow. Friday. I believe it's still up in the air.

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01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: There's some all kind of events going around that Omni

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01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: ribbon cutting and some other things around the stars, so

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01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: we should know what time we're rolling Friday tomorrow. Join

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Speaker 1: us again. We'll try to get Rod Smith on and

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01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: if not, you're stuck with us. Four. See you tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Douglas, Thank you're welcome. This has been a

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