WEBVTT - Settler Colonialism with Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>Alz media.

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<v Speaker 2>With scenes of the genocide and Palestine plastering or screens

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<v Speaker 2>over the past few years, and increasing analysis of the

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<v Speaker 2>settler colonial and supremacist route of Israel's violence. It's having

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<v Speaker 2>me thinking more about the concept of settler colonialism. Many

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<v Speaker 2>people know now about Israel's settler colonial past and it's

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<v Speaker 2>parallels with the US, Australia, South Africa, and Canada. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are common comparisons, but few know much about the settler

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<v Speaker 2>colonial origins of Liberia, which has gained a little attention

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<v Speaker 2>as people have begun learning more about the concept. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to take a look at Liberia, Israel and

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<v Speaker 2>the parallels of settler colonialism. This is it can happen here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Andrew Sage Andrewism on YouTube, and I'm joined once

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<v Speaker 2>again by James Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to learn about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm mainly looking into parallels through the lens of

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<v Speaker 2>analysis provided by historian Patrick Wolfe in his famous article

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<v Speaker 2>Settler Colonialism and the Elimination of the Nature, with other

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<v Speaker 2>historical resources and articles linked in the show notes fust Off.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we start making comparisons, I'll need to introduce the

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<v Speaker 2>concept for those unfamiliar, settler colonialism is, in one sentence,

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<v Speaker 2>an ongoing structural process where outsiders permanently occupy indigenous lands

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<v Speaker 2>to build new societies. Wolf notes that invasion is a structure,

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<v Speaker 2>not an event. He calls setler colonialism inherently eliminatory but

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<v Speaker 2>not invariably genocidal, and calls elimination an organizing principle of

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<v Speaker 2>setler colonial society rather than a one off occurrence. Unlike

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of exploitation colonialism which seeks to extract resources

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<v Speaker 2>and leave, settlers come to stay to claim land. As

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<v Speaker 2>Wolf quotes that were bird rose to get in the

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<v Speaker 2>way of settler colonization, all the native has to do

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<v Speaker 2>is stay at home. Settlers tell various stories to justify

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<v Speaker 2>their eliminatory ambitions race, religion, ethnicity, civilization status, but it

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<v Speaker 2>really comes down to territory. Settlers want to establish lastin

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<v Speaker 2>autonomous communities by eliminating the existing indigenous way of life

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<v Speaker 2>and replacing it with the colonizer's culture, economy, and political order.

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<v Speaker 2>Wolf says that settler clunism destroys to replace point into

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<v Speaker 2>the quite visceral example of Israeli settlers of root in

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<v Speaker 2>ancient olive trees and replacing them with foreign fruit trees,

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<v Speaker 2>or as Israel often euphromizes it, making the desert bloom.

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<v Speaker 2>Elimination doesn't have to mean the wholesale slaughter of indigenous people,

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<v Speaker 2>though frontier homicide tends to be a trend, but elimination

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<v Speaker 2>seeks to dissolve indigenous people and their way of life

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<v Speaker 2>through various means expulsion, encouraged population mixing and forced assimilation, enclosure,

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<v Speaker 2>child abduction, missions and board in schools, religious conversion, marginalization,

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<v Speaker 2>labor exploitation, and more often several at once. Settler clunalism

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<v Speaker 2>tends to remain deeply embedded in the laws and institutions

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<v Speaker 2>of the countries foundly that way, but Woth points to

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<v Speaker 2>a curious side effect of settler clunalism, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>way that settler society subsequently attempts to recuperate indigenity in

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<v Speaker 2>order to express its independence from the mother country. He

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<v Speaker 2>references Australia's incorporation of indigenous symbolism for one example. Australia, Canada,

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<v Speaker 2>the US, New Zealand, South Africa, French Algeria, Rhodesia, Liberia,

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<v Speaker 2>and Israel are all examples of contemporary or historical settler

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<v Speaker 2>colonial societies used on the parallels between just two of them,

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<v Speaker 2>Liberia and Israel. In eighteen eighteen, the American Colonization Society

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<v Speaker 2>scouted what was then known as the Grain Coast and

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<v Speaker 2>deemed it a suitable location for their planned African colony,

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<v Speaker 2>meant to be a home for formerly enslaved people in

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<v Speaker 2>the US foreign emancipation, as well as free black people

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<v Speaker 2>that already existed in the territory. The first successful settlement

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<v Speaker 2>was established in eighteen twenty two after an agreement with

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<v Speaker 2>the local chiefs signed in eighteen twenty one granted the

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<v Speaker 2>society possession of Cape Mesurado. Now, some free black Americans

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<v Speaker 2>had advocated returned to Africa projects long before the ACS

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<v Speaker 2>was even founded, so we shouldn't erase the agency in this.

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<v Speaker 2>But the ACS was led by a mix of white

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<v Speaker 2>abolitionists and white and slavers who mostly just wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>rid themselves the free black population in the US. Most

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<v Speaker 2>free Black Americans opposed the project, either in a or

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<v Speaker 2>in time. Those Black Americans that did participate came to

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<v Speaker 2>be known as Americo Liberians. They carried on the American

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<v Speaker 2>Colonization Society's narrative that the establishment of Liberia was a

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<v Speaker 2>return to the promised Land and exodus of formally enslaved

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<v Speaker 2>people returned into the ancestral homeland to establish an independent

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<v Speaker 2>land of freedom, and as a minority in that land,

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<v Speaker 2>the American Liberians would establish a government and various settlements

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<v Speaker 2>they ruled that would attempt to expand Liberia's initial territory

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<v Speaker 2>and to bring civilization and Christianity to the natives. Those

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<v Speaker 2>that went were clearly heavily influenced by the American background,

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<v Speaker 2>viewing themselves culturally, socially, and educationally superior to the Native

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<v Speaker 2>African ethnic groups they encountered. After a few decades of

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<v Speaker 2>support from the American colonization society, independence was declared in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen forty seven, but only recognized by the US in

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen sixty two. They also very quickly a deteriorating economic situation,

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<v Speaker 2>marked by heavy foreign deck obligations culminating in multinational intervention

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<v Speaker 2>and oversight in the early nineteen hundreds, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>the establishment of a million eco rubber plantation for the

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<v Speaker 2>Firestone Tire and Rubber Company, which would exploit the indigenous

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<v Speaker 2>people in Liberia for decades to come.

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<v Speaker 1>Any time is setting up a rubber plantation. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that should be a massive red flag that you're

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<v Speaker 1>one of the bad guys. Yeah, yeah, exactly, people who

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<v Speaker 1>have been subject to settle a colonial violence and to

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<v Speaker 1>like racially motivated sound like a cople I say, racially

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<v Speaker 1>motivated violence, like the violence to inherent and racism and capitalism,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that the way to kind of right those

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<v Speaker 1>wrongs is to become the one doing the violence, not

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<v Speaker 1>the one subject to the violence. It's it in the Anmar, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like a country that was brutally colonized by the country

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<v Speaker 1>that I was born in, but in which essentially today

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Myanma is it self a colonial entity.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a number of different ethnic groups, dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>ethnic groups within Memma, and we have one ethnic group

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<v Speaker 1>which is dominated governance, and which has dominated the military,

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<v Speaker 1>and which has used the tool of the state to

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<v Speaker 1>extract resources, labor, human bodies from the other ethnic groups, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've gone from being colonized to effectively being like

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<v Speaker 1>a contiguous empire, and they've adopted the logic of the

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<v Speaker 1>colonizer in doing so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Unfortunately, this is a very common phenomenon. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is why I tend to view nationalism, even so

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<v Speaker 2>called Third world nationalisms, as dead ends, as explicitly counter revolutionary,

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<v Speaker 2>as against the liberation of all people. Yeah, because that

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<v Speaker 2>construction of the nation state, or really of states and general,

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<v Speaker 2>tends to come with the establishment of certain superiors and inferiors,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, subordinates and rulers. Yeah, and the privilege in

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<v Speaker 2>of certain religions, ethnic groups, skin tones, whatever the case

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<v Speaker 2>may be, even within so called ethnically homogeneous societies. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You can even look at Japan, right, which is touted

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<v Speaker 2>by you know, supremacists of all flavors as an ethnically

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<v Speaker 2>homogenous society. Even within that society there's you know, colorism,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's also the exploitation and marginalization of certain groups

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<v Speaker 2>within that territory, such as the I knew.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think a lot about like nationalism. Now, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a time when there was a movement to try and

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<v Speaker 1>use nationalism as a positive thing. They have a Brotherhood

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<v Speaker 1>of Nations, right, It existed within Catle anti fascism in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirties, Like, we are a nation which has

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<v Speaker 1>been suppressed by the state, so we will build a

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<v Speaker 1>nationalism that doesn't suppress people right, which sort the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing with Kurdish people right, with the Kurdish Freedom movement.

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<v Speaker 1>Their understanding, I would say, was more advanced than the Catalans,

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<v Speaker 1>and that like their their analysis was that we are

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<v Speaker 1>a nation that has been suppresed by multiple states, and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore we will build society without the state in order

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<v Speaker 1>to link create well where there is no boots, so

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<v Speaker 1>you can't tread on people, right. I still believe that

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<v Speaker 1>that is possible, but like in the last six months,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've seen people back away from that within

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<v Speaker 1>Kurdistan write and start talking again about the Brotherhood. People's

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<v Speaker 1>was a mistake. They feel betrayed. I don't think those

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<v Speaker 1>people would consider themselves to be superior, but they feel

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<v Speaker 1>that their project didn't work. That really makes me sad. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>the Brotherhood of Nations like didn't succeed in Syria, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And we've seen it effectively at like Sirious Dog or

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<v Speaker 1>the Syrian Arab Republic after hundreds of thousands of people

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<v Speaker 1>gave their lives for it to be a place where

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<v Speaker 1>everyone could be free. And yeah, it really saddens me

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<v Speaker 1>to see that that, like, like I really hoped for

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<v Speaker 1>something better. This idea of brotherhood of nations which acknowledges

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<v Speaker 1>people's difference, but it doesn't create a hierarchy. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>not We haven't made it quite work yet, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>And because we live in a world right where where

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<v Speaker 1>they appeal to nationalism and bigotry and the idea like

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<v Speaker 1>specifically in Syria, I think that like Arabs should not

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<v Speaker 1>be equal to Kurds was appealing. Through making that appeal,

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<v Speaker 1>this project was able to be sabotaged, I guess now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that while we're still fortune the front approaches

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<v Speaker 2>to liberation trying to figure out what that looks like,

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen the truck record of nationalism, is my point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no, I think it's fair like it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>been used much more as a force for dividing us,

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<v Speaker 1>in making us hate each other, than it has been

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<v Speaker 1>for creating a world what we can all live together

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<v Speaker 1>alongside each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a digression, but in my experience in Trinidad,

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<v Speaker 2>what I've noticed is that their efforts to kind of construct,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have been since the establishment of Trinidad as

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<v Speaker 2>an independent country trand Tobago as an independent country in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty two. First led by doctor Eric Williams. There

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<v Speaker 2>were efforts to kind of build this kind of cross

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<v Speaker 2>racial like overarching like Trinidadia and Trindigo Nian identity, which

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I use that term trind Diego in some

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<v Speaker 2>of my work, but the Beagle is kind of attach

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<v Speaker 2>to Trinidad against their will. And even now if there

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<v Speaker 2>are people who try to push that trend bag or unity,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are also people who will assert, particularly people

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<v Speaker 2>from Tobago, who will assert that yeah, no, we want

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<v Speaker 2>greater autonomy, we want even independence from Trinidad. And so

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<v Speaker 2>for maybe certain people unifying purposes that would use the term,

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<v Speaker 2>but I try not to give off that impression that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm using it for kind of unifying nationalism, because I

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<v Speaker 2>think with the nationalism of such a young, quote unquote nation,

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<v Speaker 2>a nation of nations of various people from all over

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<v Speaker 2>the world, mostly brought here against their will. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>are these competitions I think over the proportionality of the

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<v Speaker 2>representation of different racial ethnic groups, the competitions over who

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<v Speaker 2>gets to define what this Trinidadian nation is, what it

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<v Speaker 2>means to be a Trinidadian and afthlets to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>balance or imbalance the proportion of representation depending on which

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<v Speaker 2>government is in power. You know, our current government is

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<v Speaker 2>very much oriented toward a kind of Indo Trinardi and

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<v Speaker 2>Indian focus and have in many ways marginalized all other groups, maligned,

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<v Speaker 2>all other groups, disrespected all other groups within the country

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of elevate the sense of or get back

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<v Speaker 2>for the Indian people in turnet and I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to go too much down that road talking about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just another example to me or the frustration

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<v Speaker 2>and misdirection that comes with investment in nationalism, which currently

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<v Speaker 2>holds a monopoly both here and as much of the

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<v Speaker 2>world on narratives of liberation and anti colonial resistance. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was treated as a anticlonial resistance is synonymous with nationalism. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>as though the two cannot be distinguished.

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<v Speaker 1>It should be a relic of the twentieth century, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like it was heavily tied to state socialism. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>The idea of the way that we.

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<v Speaker 1>Fight the wrongs of colonialism is through creating post colonial

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<v Speaker 1>nation states and ignoring the fact that many of those states,

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<v Speaker 1>many of the boundaries they find themselves within, include a

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<v Speaker 1>diverse range of identities. Like you said, of many people,

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<v Speaker 1>including those bought against their will to those places, and

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<v Speaker 1>many of those identities don't line up with the national identities,

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<v Speaker 1>and it almost always results in a change of the

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<v Speaker 1>oppressure rather than the absence of oppression.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean you could literally just look at the

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<v Speaker 2>entire history of independent Nigeria. Yes, the one very clear

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<v Speaker 2>example of that. Yeah. But getting back to the comparisons, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see an explicitly titled ideology behind the founding

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<v Speaker 2>of Liberia beyond settler clunalism, I suppose, but the implicit

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<v Speaker 2>ideology was the supremacy of the elite American liberian way

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<v Speaker 2>of life and the right to that territory and the

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<v Speaker 2>label and the resources of its people. While the elite

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<v Speaker 2>would themselves be subordinate to the global catalyst order dictated

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<v Speaker 2>particularly by America and Europe, so the supremacy the American

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<v Speaker 2>Liberian elite did not place them in a position of

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<v Speaker 2>supremacy in the global stage. They were still in a

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<v Speaker 2>subordinate position in some ways. Turning out to Israel, the

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<v Speaker 2>political Zionist movement emerged in the late nineteenth century Europe

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<v Speaker 2>amid programs and a failure to achieve equality for Jews

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<v Speaker 2>in many countries. Its most influential early theorist Theodore Hurzel,

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<v Speaker 2>argue that Jews constituted a nation and that anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 2>could not ultimately be so through integration into European societies. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>they required a state of their own, and Palestine was

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<v Speaker 2>not initially the only territory under consideration. Various proposals included Argentina, Uganda,

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<v Speaker 2>and other locations before Palestine became firmly established as the

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<v Speaker 2>movement's focus. Not all Jews agreed with this political Zionist

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<v Speaker 2>cause that many Jewish socialists, particularly those associated with the

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<v Speaker 2>General Jewish Labor Bund, rejected Zionism altogether. They argued the

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<v Speaker 2>Jews should fight for libration where they lived, rather than

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<v Speaker 2>establishing a separate nation state. Nevertheless, the Zionists colonial settlement

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<v Speaker 2>efforts began and expanded in Palestine through the late nineteenth

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<v Speaker 2>and early twentieth centuries, aided by wealthy benefactors, land purchases

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<v Speaker 2>from absentee landlords, and growing immigration. The movement received a

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<v Speaker 2>major boost in nineteen seventeen when the British government issued

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<v Speaker 2>the Balford Claratia Express in support for the establishment of

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<v Speaker 2>a Jewish National Home in Palestine, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>Palestine's Arab population constituted the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, a settlement expanded Sinus narratives increasingly emphasized

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of return. The Jews were not colonizing a

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<v Speaker 2>foreign land, but return into an ancestral homeland from which

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<v Speaker 2>they had been dispersed centuries before, and the state of

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<v Speaker 2>Israel was officially established in nineteen forty eight, accompanied by

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<v Speaker 2>the Nakba or catastrophe, when more than seven hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinians were displaced or expelled from their homes across Palestine.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Liberia before it, ISRAELI emerged as a state founded

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<v Speaker 2>by a population claiming a historic connection to the territory,

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<v Speaker 2>and like Liberia, is legitimacy would be built upon narratives

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<v Speaker 2>of return, civilization, and nationhood, while the indigenous inhabitants found

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<v Speaker 2>themselves excluded from the political order being constructed on top

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<v Speaker 2>of their home now Already, these situations aren't exactly one

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<v Speaker 2>to one, but they don't need to be. To apply

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<v Speaker 2>a settler clonal analysis. The key questions for ascertaining settler

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<v Speaker 2>clonalism are if the settlers established permanent residents, if they

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<v Speaker 2>claimed political sovereignty, if they dominated inditionous populations, if they

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<v Speaker 2>created institutions that privileged settlers. Basically, what was the political

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<v Speaker 2>and social order that emerged after they arrived and who

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<v Speaker 2>was elevated and degraded by it. For Liberia, the answer

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<v Speaker 2>becomes pretty clear once we look at how the new

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<v Speaker 2>state was organized. Over the course of the nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 2>American liberia and settlements expanded their territory through a mixture

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<v Speaker 2>of purchases, treaties, coercion and military expeditions, and outright warfare

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<v Speaker 2>with Inditionous peoples, who made up the overwhelming majority of

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<v Speaker 2>the population, were largely excluded from political life for generations.

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<v Speaker 2>They lacked meaningful representation and government, and were treated as

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<v Speaker 2>subjects to be administered. The settler elite monopolized state institutions

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually established what was effectively a one party state

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<v Speaker 2>under the True Whig Party, which ruled Liberia for over

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<v Speaker 2>a century. The Liberian state extracted taxes and tribute from

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<v Speaker 2>indigenous communities, relied on indigenous labor, and by the early

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<v Speaker 2>twentieth century, international investigations were uncovering systems of forced labor

0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:37.000
<v Speaker 2>and human trafficking so surveyor that they generated an international scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>While the settlers themselves had once been victims of slavery

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<v Speaker 2>and racial oppression, they recreated similar class and ethnic hierarchies

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<v Speaker 2>in their state. Liberia, of course, differs from many other

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<v Speaker 2>settler colonies, but they retained the basic framework of a

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<v Speaker 2>settler population, clearing sovereignty over territory inhabited by indigenous peoples,

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<v Speaker 2>and concentrated political and e chemic power in its own hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Now compare this to Israel. From the late nineteenth century onward.

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<v Speaker 2>Zionist organizations acquired land through purchases and violence following the Knappa,

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<v Speaker 2>which created one of the largest refugee populations in the

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<v Speaker 2>modern world. The Palestinians, which remained within Israel, was subjected

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<v Speaker 2>to military administration for years. While Palestinians in the occupied

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<v Speaker 2>territories continue to live under a different legal regime than

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli settlers. The nineteen fifty two Citizenship Law and the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen Nation State Law cemented the Jewish supremacist heart

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<v Speaker 2>of the Zinis project. As since nineteen sixty seven, settlement

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<v Speaker 2>expansion in the West Bank had steadily increased, accompanied by

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<v Speaker 2>land seizures, home demolitions, restrictions on movement, and the fragmentation

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<v Speaker 2>of Palestinian communities, and Gaza has been an open air

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<v Speaker 2>prison where settlers occasionally move the lawn aka slaughter population

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<v Speaker 2>since two thousand and seven. It's worth noting a major

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<v Speaker 2>difference between the two cases, which is the demographic element.

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<v Speaker 2>America Liberians remained a small minority ruling a much larger

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<v Speaker 2>indigenous population, but the entire history of American Liberian ruled Liberia.

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<v Speaker 2>Those kind of demographics are more akin to settler societies

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<v Speaker 2>like South Africa, Rhodesia and French Algeria, which leaned heavily

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<v Speaker 2>into the exploitation aspect of clonalism. Israel developed differently intentionally

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<v Speaker 2>to ensure that Jewish people became the demographic and majority

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<v Speaker 2>within its territory, so it's more comparable to settler societies

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<v Speaker 2>like the US, Canada and Australia. Such demographics necessarily led

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<v Speaker 2>to a difference in how indigenous peoples were managed between projects.

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<v Speaker 2>Liberia system depended upon indigenous labor, while Israel's project has

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<v Speaker 2>generally prioritized secure in land while minimizing dependence on Palestinian labor.

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<v Speaker 2>In many periods of Zionus history, Palestinian labor was actively

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<v Speaker 2>displaced in favor of exclusively Jewish labor. But again, settler

0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:13.400
<v Speaker 2>colonism operates according to a logic of elimination that might

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<v Speaker 2>often be expulsion and extermination, but it can also mean assimilation, confinement,

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever else. Again, the settlers want the land. The

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<v Speaker 2>native becomes an obstacle, and difference that the societies developed

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<v Speaker 2>different methods for dealing with that obstacle. The US had

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<v Speaker 2>its ethnic cleansings, removals, reservation system and boarding schools. Australia

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:42.119
<v Speaker 2>had frontier wars, stolen generations and land dispossessions. Canada had

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<v Speaker 2>assimilation policies like reservation schools. South Africa and a wide

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:50.440
<v Speaker 2>rule couldn't expel the black majority, so they maintained apartheid

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.720
<v Speaker 2>controlled reservations and extracted labor. But again, what matters for

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<v Speaker 2>definance at the clonalism is that indigenous sovereignty is displaced

0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:03.159
<v Speaker 2>and set look control over the land is secured. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>indigenous people in all cases do not take this abuse

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<v Speaker 2>lying down. From the very beginning of Liberian settlement, Indigenous

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<v Speaker 2>peoples resisted the crew grabo by and numerous other ethnic

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<v Speaker 2>groups fought against territorial expansion, taxation, forced labor, and attempts

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<v Speaker 2>by the Liberian States to extend its authority into the interior,

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<v Speaker 2>and despite generations of American Liberian dominance, indigenous resistance never

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<v Speaker 2>entirely disappeared. Eventually, the political order that had governed Liberia

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<v Speaker 2>for over a century began to crack, economic crisis, corruption

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<v Speaker 2>and grow, and resentment towards settled domination culminated in a

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<v Speaker 2>military coup in nineteen eighty led by Samuel Doe, overthrowing

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<v Speaker 2>the government of President William Tolbert and ended more than

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<v Speaker 2>a century of uninterrupted American Liberian political dominance. Now, that

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<v Speaker 2>coup clearly did not create a free or egalitarian society.

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<v Speaker 2>Liberia would soon face dictatorship, civil war, and immense suffering,

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<v Speaker 2>but it did mark the collapse of the older settler

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<v Speaker 2>elites monopoly on state power, and efforts at recovery in

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<v Speaker 2>the country are ongoing. Palestinian resistance, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>faced a very different structury from the beginning of Zia settlement.

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinians resisted displacement and land loss through protests, strikes, political organizing,

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<v Speaker 2>and armed revote. The Great Arab Revolt of nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six to nineteen thirty nine saw Palestinians launch a massive

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<v Speaker 2>reich An uprising against both British colonial rule and Zonu settlement.

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<v Speaker 2>Decades later came the first and second in defaders mass movements,

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<v Speaker 2>a combined protest, civil disobedions, community organized and armed resistance.

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<v Speaker 2>Pastidians have built a number of institutions alongside international solarity

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<v Speaker 2>movements in an effort to sustain their efforts under occupation, siege, exile,

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<v Speaker 2>and apartheid. Amid the destruction genocide of Gaza, passing and

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<v Speaker 2>resistance continues. Liberia and Israel are both settled clunal projects,

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<v Speaker 2>but they are different enough in scale and goals and

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<v Speaker 2>methods and historical development that obviously treating them must equivalent

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<v Speaker 2>for be misleaded. The point of the comparison is to

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<v Speaker 2>identify what these societies have in common. Since the cool

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<v Speaker 2>In Liberia, the old American Liberian elite has lost its

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<v Speaker 2>monopoly on power, but in Israel, the settler clunal project

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<v Speaker 2>is alive and well, with ever expanding settlements, occupation, displacement,

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<v Speaker 2>and brutality. Whether settler dominance in Israel remains or falls

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<v Speaker 2>is yet to be seen in Liberia. The end of

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<v Speaker 2>settler rules not automatically bring justice, equality or freedom. Deliberation

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<v Speaker 2>through state power has not brought their relief, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>the context of a global capitalist order. The replacement of

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<v Speaker 2>one ruling class for another has ended the struggle, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe put us semi cooler on that struggle. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>the aim of deconization must be not merely the fight

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<v Speaker 2>against the people at the helm of the system, but

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<v Speaker 2>the very helm of the system itself, dismantling the structures

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<v Speaker 2>that make domination possible. The first place, for Palestine and

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<v Speaker 2>for all people's struggling against oppression and then set localism

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<v Speaker 2>is only the beginning in the pursuit of liberation. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all I have for today, All powers to all the people. Peace.

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