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Speaker 1: name is Dan Andres and I have joined my room.
Speaker 1: Bill was some heroes, Nick shook to my left coming
Speaker 1: off the bench and great Greg that was that was
Speaker 1: a little too on the nose with that money. We
Speaker 1: were just talking before the show, you know, if if
Speaker 1: the ratings start struggling or anything like that would happen,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll bring in like a kid, was an idea,
Speaker 1: like a precocious child, to try to boost boost the ratings.
Speaker 1: If you if you are a listener of the show
Speaker 1: and then out of nowhere, a five year old girl
Speaker 1: shows up sitting in one of our chairs. Just know,
Speaker 1: just like on television, when a precocious child shows up
Speaker 1: in like season eight to a desperate attempt to liven
Speaker 1: up the scene, we might go that same route. In fact,
Speaker 1: we're already kicking around ideas for an open audition, perhaps
Speaker 1: so we don't need kids. We got a lot of
Speaker 1: NFL games, some good ones today. Um wait, this is a
Speaker 1: a little too on the nose to Greg. You were
Speaker 1: trying to pivot out of that fast. Well, I'm just
Speaker 1: I wanna Are you afraid that your chair will be
Speaker 1: filled by the precosive child? Maybe your own daughter? I
Speaker 1: feel like the candidate here. She definitely has a big vocabulary,
Speaker 1: feel like she would do very well. Uh if we
Speaker 1: had to replace a Rosenthal at least anyway, we don't
Speaker 1: plan to do that. In fact, it's just Greg and
Speaker 1: I from the from the main team and shook his happy.
Speaker 1: We're very happy to have Nick here to help us out.
Speaker 1: Um Mark Sessler was in, Is it Carson CALIFORNI no,
Speaker 1: it's uh. Where is the stub Hub Center? Carson? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Carson California checking out the StubHub Center and he's writing
Speaker 1: up a piece that you'll be able to check out,
Speaker 1: I believe. Monday morning on NFL dot com, west actually
Speaker 1: helped out on the website writing some articles, which is
Speaker 1: another positive step for Chris Westling is he's inching his
Speaker 1: way back toward the studio here and we can't wait
Speaker 1: to get get him back. But for now, we uh,
Speaker 1: we go on and a lot to get to Week
Speaker 1: two of the NFL season, A flagship show of course,
Speaker 1: presented by Head and Shoulders, and one just one note
Speaker 1: before we get into the games, because we've got so
Speaker 1: much to get to. Can't mess around here. I cannot
Speaker 1: mess around. But I do want to make an announcement.
Speaker 1: I just spent two minutes talking about a child possibly
Speaker 1: replacing one of us. But go on, yes, just but
Speaker 1: this is an important anounced. In fact, I would go
Speaker 1: as far as saying it's a breaking news. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That's how I mean, that's what I'm talking about. The
Speaker 1: CBS program Scorpion. But if you've been wondering where it's
Speaker 1: been in the commercials on CBS, UH premiers next Monday,
Speaker 1: septem Easter. There you go. You didn't think that was
Speaker 1: worth it? No, for a show that we spent three
Speaker 1: minutes talking about downstairs, and we all we everyone in
Speaker 1: the room thought the show was Scorpion called Scorpio, and
Speaker 1: no one, no one corrected. I was aware. I was aware,
Speaker 1: but I was playing dumb because I didn't want to
Speaker 1: feel over eager about my knowledge of the show. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure I was supposed to.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to watch it, but I didn't get
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten to it yet, but I just know
Speaker 1: that the premiers next Monday. Too many games to get to.
Speaker 1: We gotta get on Greg's ancy. So I know I
Speaker 1: have to get the show going. So let's start. Uh heck,
Speaker 1: let's start in Denver. Simeon under center, play fakes to nobody,
Speaker 1: throws the pass to the Denver play fakes to nobody.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's that's surprising that that work anyway.
Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos looked like they're for real. Trevor Simeon
Speaker 1: through four more touchdown passes and the Broncos No fly
Speaker 1: Zone listen. I like Rocky Mountain Avalanche. I'm on record
Speaker 1: on that. Maybe something different, but for now, No Fly
Speaker 1: Zone carries on. But it lived up to its reputation
Speaker 1: and a decisive heck of blowouten win over the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Greg nobody was talking about the Broncos this summer, but
Speaker 1: I think people should be talking now. They should be
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, half tag team. Trev is feeling
Speaker 1: pretty good right about now. I was saying, we don't
Speaker 1: know what Trevor simeons ceiling is. Oh yeah, at least
Speaker 1: Clay is thrown it out there has a team trip.
Speaker 1: But as much as I want to boost up Trevor
Speaker 1: Simeon for throwing four touchdowns and having a very strong
Speaker 1: game overall, to me, the story was the running game.
Speaker 1: When you watch C. J. Anderson and it's the healthy,
Speaker 1: informed C. G Anderson and then suddenly you have Jamal
Speaker 1: Charles coming off the bench. The Broncos had the dominant
Speaker 1: running game, and the Broncos run defense, which was a
Speaker 1: mess last year, absolutely stopped Ezekiel Elliott eight yards on
Speaker 1: nine carries. So they've in back to back weeks stopped
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon cold more or less stopped Ezekiel Elliott cold.
Speaker 1: And they're running the ball. They're a much tougher team
Speaker 1: than they were a year ago. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if any team in the NFL has had a better
Speaker 1: two weeks than the Denver Broncos. I was actually surprised
Speaker 1: by the way they played on the ground because, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of saw what we were going
Speaker 1: to get out of Jamal Charles in his little preseason
Speaker 1: action in a little bit in Week one, and the
Speaker 1: potential they're from a veteran, but C. G Anderson for me,
Speaker 1: was the big question mark. And then he comes out today,
Speaker 1: like you said, a d eighteen yards on twenty five attempts,
Speaker 1: he's got a touchdown and and you know, any team
Speaker 1: that runs the ball well is usually gonna find success
Speaker 1: and another thirty six yards in a touchdown. He's one
Speaker 1: of those guys, a little like Doug Martin. It you
Speaker 1: just gotta watch Week one or two and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: which C. G Anderson we get in this year? Is
Speaker 1: it kind of the banged up one is he in shape. No,
Speaker 1: he's fully healthy, and he really changes that team, takes
Speaker 1: pressure off of Trevor Simeon, which he's gonna need. They
Speaker 1: lost lost their left tackle, Garrett Bowls today with what
Speaker 1: looked to be a serious injury. That's gonna be a
Speaker 1: problem when this team, if they have that good a
Speaker 1: defense that could a running game, they're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to win games. Greg you said that the Broncos might
Speaker 1: have looked better than any team. I will throw out
Speaker 1: two more teams. They just happened to both play in
Speaker 1: the n f C West. We're gonna get into him
Speaker 1: in more detail later. But the Kansas City Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders. The poor charges We're gonna leave them
Speaker 1: out of this office. Is but uh, this is the
Speaker 1: best division football and it could be we're talking an
Speaker 1: epic uh division race that that's absolutely true, But you
Speaker 1: gotta parse the words that I said. I said no
Speaker 1: teams had a better two weeks. The Raiders, You're right,
Speaker 1: I would say have looked even better in the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are right there. But considering where the Broncos thought or
Speaker 1: I thought they would be, and just the things that
Speaker 1: have turned out well for them, For instance, Shaq Barrett
Speaker 1: returned to the lineup earlier than expected. People were talking
Speaker 1: how they're so thin on the pass rush. He's been
Speaker 1: their best player through two weeks. He's been great, Shelby Harris,
Speaker 1: like they're in their run defense, the fact that they're
Speaker 1: improving what was their weakest parts on the team from
Speaker 1: a year ago, that they're now big time strength and
Speaker 1: to demolished the Cowboys and this is a great Cowboys team.
Speaker 1: This was like a Cowboys like performance by the Broncos.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys not being able to even hang in this game.
Speaker 1: This is simply a performance who did not see all
Speaker 1: last year, And we talked about in the offseason it
Speaker 1: would be hard to match what they did last year.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying the Cowboys are now in trouble.
Speaker 1: The Broncos might be actually a very good team, although
Speaker 1: I will add the Broncos started what four and oh
Speaker 1: last year as well, so we should get too excited
Speaker 1: about Denver ever, But I don't know. Like I I
Speaker 1: thought that this was a big game for Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: I thought a good test for him, a guy that
Speaker 1: I was saying going into the game, how will he
Speaker 1: fair against the great defense on the road. He hasn't
Speaker 1: maybe gotten enough love, which I thought was strange considering
Speaker 1: he's a Dallas quarterback. He wasn't ready for that defense.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Zeke Elliott, I mean, he did not have
Speaker 1: any games like this last season that I remember. This
Speaker 1: is just a totally new look for the Cowboys. Also,
Speaker 1: don't recall a Cowboys game in which Dak Prescott was
Speaker 1: forced to throw the ball fifty time, but it's not
Speaker 1: the formula. But last week, where they won comfortably, they
Speaker 1: threw it, I believe, you know, thirty nine times, and
Speaker 1: they did not run the ball nearly as like they
Speaker 1: went out with and they tried to spread it out,
Speaker 1: and I think he made good decisions last week, didn't
Speaker 1: play as well as he would like, and then this
Speaker 1: game it got away from them early. But they were
Speaker 1: trying to spread the Broncos out and attack the Broncos strength.
Speaker 1: It just didn't work. And the Cowboys lost two cornerbacks
Speaker 1: in this game. They were already down to Orlando Scandrick,
Speaker 1: so that should be mentioned. I mean, Manny Sanders, who's
Speaker 1: just like the best insane route runner, was putting these
Speaker 1: guys in skates, making them look bad and a lot
Speaker 1: of things went against the Cowboys today. I'm not too
Speaker 1: worried about them. Let's move on. We're on a stunt,
Speaker 1: a pastorable left side that's er picked off the forty
Speaker 1: outside of the player inside the fog. Touchstops hamber Boy
Speaker 1: for Robert laying our good friend Jeane decker Hoff. The
Speaker 1: Mike Lennon revenge game went sideways and Jamis Winston through
Speaker 1: for two and four yards and a touchdown to leave
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to an easy, easy win over
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. The Bucks looked great after their irma
Speaker 1: forced hiatus, and this is kind of the perfect start
Speaker 1: to their season. H a game where they jumped out
Speaker 1: ahead early and everything seemed to be working. So if
Speaker 1: you were a fan of the Bucks on hard knocks,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it doesn't translate over and the season starts like, Hey,
Speaker 1: that's not the team I fell in love with, this
Speaker 1: is basically what exactly you would think how this game
Speaker 1: would go at home. It's not how I thought it
Speaker 1: would go. After the Bears played very frisky last week
Speaker 1: against Atlanta, I thought they would be a tough team
Speaker 1: to deal with, but it was Tampa's defense which I
Speaker 1: honestly wasn't sure what we're gonna get out of Tampa's
Speaker 1: defense this you're going into this season. I think maybe
Speaker 1: they got a little too much hype last year, and
Speaker 1: yet in this game it looked like a different Lavonte
Speaker 1: David Kendall beckwith who's a rookie, had a big game,
Speaker 1: h Kwan Alexander. They forced three Mike Glennon turnovers in
Speaker 1: the first half alone, to the point where Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: and the box offense didn't really have to do too much.
Speaker 1: They they ended up being able to sit on that
Speaker 1: lead even without Doug Martin. Yeah, you know, just like
Speaker 1: you don't want Dak Prescott really any quarterback throwing fifty times,
Speaker 1: asking when Mike Glennon is throwing about forty five times,
Speaker 1: you know you're in a bad way. And when you
Speaker 1: have no Russian game. Tree Cohen, who had of course
Speaker 1: the huge breakout game last week's seven carrics for thirteen yards.
Speaker 1: He did have a bunch of catches, but they really
Speaker 1: didn't get any anything explosive out of him. Jordan and
Speaker 1: Harrod Howard nine carries for seven yards, So that's sixteen
Speaker 1: carries for twenty yards, and that is not going to
Speaker 1: get it done. That's just over one yard per carry.
Speaker 1: For all your math wizards at home, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I had four yards a carry in my head. So
Speaker 1: thank you for correcting me on that. I think with
Speaker 1: this Tampa Bay defense, you know, Gregg, you kind of
Speaker 1: said maybe he was a little overhyped. I thought the
Speaker 1: only weakness that they had was in the back end
Speaker 1: was at safety. And then they went out and fixed
Speaker 1: it by getting TJ. Ward, who kind of fell into
Speaker 1: their laps, and then they've got I'm not saying overhyped
Speaker 1: was strong. I didn't know what they were getting a
Speaker 1: lot of hype, and I just didn't know what you
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see out of this. It's a Mike Smith defense.
Speaker 1: Usually it's like his it's like his footwear. It doesn't
Speaker 1: really get me going in the morning. Uh is that
Speaker 1: a tennis shot? That's a shot at the Davis. I
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna hit, You're gonna hit. Shook what
Speaker 1: you hit me with and make up parts parse words?
Speaker 1: Commented banged me with a parse words. I'm still recovering.
Speaker 1: I'm reeling off, so I gotta parse everyone's words in here.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that I was saying that. I wasn't
Speaker 1: saying they were the best even the NFL. They just
Speaker 1: had the best two weeks. But I'm saying those other
Speaker 1: teams had a good, damn damn two weeks. Also, the
Speaker 1: Raiders are a fair point. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: can argue with you on that anyway, And do we think,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike Lennon, obviously they're probably overmatching this game.
Speaker 1: And now they're owing to Uh, don't Mitchell, don't call
Speaker 1: me Mitch Trobiskie. The whispers are gonna start getting louder.
Speaker 1: What do you think? I mean, I think you kind
Speaker 1: of have to give him the benefit of doubt here
Speaker 1: because the Buccaneers have a sneaky good pass rush, and
Speaker 1: that's kind of the point I was kind of leaning
Speaker 1: toward there, or working toward. And I don't necessarily think
Speaker 1: it's on Mike Glennon. However, I don't think that team
Speaker 1: is also the best team around him. And and at
Speaker 1: the same time, maybe this becomes a law season. At
Speaker 1: some point, we're gonna see you this is not a
Speaker 1: team and that can fall behind in games. I mean,
Speaker 1: you go to you know, Kendall Wright caught seven passes,
Speaker 1: Josh Balamy Cup for Deonte Thompson Cup for I mean,
Speaker 1: this is not the Rams trying to come back in games.
Speaker 1: No they are not. Greg Let's move forward over the
Speaker 1: little passion Bomber and running Google quick Colder tapers Bread
Speaker 1: everybody to the chin shoven Yard picture catch for Ben
Speaker 1: and mart tabs. Ben Roethlisberger through two first half touchdown passes,
Speaker 1: including that hook up with Martavis Bryant, as the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers ease to a nine win over the Vikings at
Speaker 1: hines Field. You know, they're really trying to bring back
Speaker 1: the mystical quality of hines Field. They said this week.
Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a mystical quality. Who said there?
Speaker 1: I think it was Big Ben. They said they want
Speaker 1: to bring back and make hines Field some type of
Speaker 1: special player. It's not exactly Lambo Field, guys. Let's colm down.
Speaker 1: But they aren't they a great home team? What am
Speaker 1: I missing? Were they bad last year? So it's just
Speaker 1: like this idea that it was like a supernatural home field.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember that every being in the case.
Speaker 1: Who cares. That's not the point nine win and Minnesota's
Speaker 1: chances of winning This game took a major hit before
Speaker 1: kickoff when it was announced Sam Bradford would be side
Speaker 1: sideline with a knee injury. Uh. That led to four
Speaker 1: more quarters of the old zeuster watching Case Keenum play football,
Speaker 1: which you know, speaking of hard knocks Case Keenum last
Speaker 1: year and for the l a Rams hard knock seemed
Speaker 1: like a very nice guy. His wife seemed delightful. I
Speaker 1: hope everything's going well with them family wise, but do
Speaker 1: I really need to see more games with a starting
Speaker 1: quarterback case Keenum. It felt like watching the Rams for
Speaker 1: stretches in this game. So all that goodwill um or excitement,
Speaker 1: if you're a Vikings fan, you could still have that
Speaker 1: and just think, okay with Case Keenum. Obviously we're not
Speaker 1: going to move the football. But there is this other
Speaker 1: minor issue is that Mike Zimmer after the game, when
Speaker 1: asked about Bradford's future, he had a knee injury kind
Speaker 1: of popped up in the middle of the week, uh,
Speaker 1: and it cost him this game. That there was a
Speaker 1: comment make and I don't have the exact quote, but
Speaker 1: he said something on the lines of he can miss
Speaker 1: one game, he can miss six games, but he'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But he'll be fine, And I don't know what that means,
Speaker 1: but what I do know is that the Viking season
Speaker 1: is over if this guy misses six weeks. I thought
Speaker 1: the Vikings had a great chance to win this game
Speaker 1: if Bradford was healthy, and the fact that they hung
Speaker 1: with Pittsburgh really through the first half, I would say
Speaker 1: it supports that a little bit that offensively for the
Speaker 1: second straight week, Pittsburgh didn't have to look like Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: to win comfortably in this game. But there's no I
Speaker 1: mean the Vikings. I guess if you're gonna take an L,
Speaker 1: you might as well do it in Pittsburgh with case
Speaker 1: keenum like you might. That's a tough game to win anyways.
Speaker 1: But this team isn't going anywhere. And it's just sad
Speaker 1: because that literally last week was the high point of
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford's NFL career and he didn't even get It's
Speaker 1: more concerning that an injury didn't occur in practice. It
Speaker 1: was just something after the game in terms of swelling,
Speaker 1: and it's the it's the knee that's been hurt before,
Speaker 1: and that's a major concern. He's in a contract here, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he's got a history of knee problems, so this
Speaker 1: shouldn't come as that much of a surprise, but the
Speaker 1: way it was kind of dropped on us mid weekend
Speaker 1: and today and announced that he wasn't gonna play, he
Speaker 1: came as a little bit of a shocker. And here's
Speaker 1: the thing. When you're the Vikings and you have backup
Speaker 1: or the back option last year was Sean Hill before
Speaker 1: you traded for Bradford, and now you have case Keenum.
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you lose, that's the NFL. Though there's
Speaker 1: only so many good backups, like I don't mind them
Speaker 1: having case Keenum. And you have to give some credit
Speaker 1: to the Steelers defense. I know they've played the Shauan
Speaker 1: Kaiser and case Keenum and back to back weeks, but
Speaker 1: we wanted to see their defense played better and more
Speaker 1: consistent and take care of business the last few years.
Speaker 1: And they they're getting the pass rush and they've been
Speaker 1: good the first two weeks. And you know, it has
Speaker 1: to kill Teddy Bridgewater, who probably is watching that game
Speaker 1: and taking himself. If my knee was just right, if
Speaker 1: I could have gotten back in a year, this would
Speaker 1: have been my chance to get back in the lineup.
Speaker 1: But he continues to be out of the picture. And UH,
Speaker 1: A couple of the thoughts about this game, UH that
Speaker 1: Martin Martavis Bryant had a nice game and a productive game,
Speaker 1: and it reminded me a lot of the guy that
Speaker 1: really surprised people and and became one of the most
Speaker 1: explosive players in the league. Uh two years ago. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Steelers fans tweeting at me pipe down,
Speaker 1: I didn't say Martavis Bryant was done or anything. They're
Speaker 1: just like what I thought, you said, his career is over.
Speaker 1: He was tard like. He was like, he's fine, Let's
Speaker 1: see the old mars. He was targeted four times, he
Speaker 1: had three catches for ninety one yards and that touchdown
Speaker 1: on a day when Antonio Brown was held in check.
Speaker 1: He was targeted eleven times, just had five catches for
Speaker 1: sixty two and lev Bell, who just was unable to
Speaker 1: get his numbers. At the end of the day, We're okay,
Speaker 1: eighty seven yards, but he needed twenty seven carries and
Speaker 1: a lot of that I could understand. He's what makes
Speaker 1: leve Bell so special is how patient he is. He
Speaker 1: waits for it to open up and then darts and
Speaker 1: it just hasn't opened up yet, so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of dancing and waiting and then everything collapses in and
Speaker 1: I still imagine, imagine that he's going to all uh
Speaker 1: work itself out in another slow game for leve Bell
Speaker 1: and um finally, my final thought on the game Boys
Speaker 1: is uh, just fun watching Big Ben. He he doesn't
Speaker 1: care he just thrown there was one sequence, or he's like,
Speaker 1: he just threw a bomb to Antonio Brown incomplete screw
Speaker 1: at third down, throws another bomb to Antonio Brown that
Speaker 1: didn't work either. This guy just throws the ball downhill,
Speaker 1: downfield over and over again. And there's just very few
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that that play like Joe Namath in two thousand seventeen,
Speaker 1: and it's always fun to watch him. I can tell
Speaker 1: you're definitely enjoying the bomb throwing Big Bend based on
Speaker 1: your tweet. I think I'm going back to that Bell
Speaker 1: point though. It's gonna be one of those seasons for
Speaker 1: him and for Zeke where they kind of work their
Speaker 1: way into uh flourishing for both of them coming off
Speaker 1: of really great years prior, and also Bryant today statistically
Speaker 1: illustrated why we looked at the Steelers is such a
Speaker 1: threat this year is because you have Antonio Brown go
Speaker 1: out and you know catch however many balls for a
Speaker 1: hundred plus yards a week prior then they got to
Speaker 1: try to shut him down. You go to Bryant the
Speaker 1: next game. I mean, they have so many weapons, how
Speaker 1: are you gonna stop that. They're they're gonna get more
Speaker 1: than thirty yards, which is what they had today. They
Speaker 1: have to be worried that t. J. Watt got hurt.
Speaker 1: But again, I think this team has a lot of depth. Uh.
Speaker 1: They have Bud Dupree having a big game. They have
Speaker 1: Ryan schau Year, they have Cameron Heyward. So even when
Speaker 1: Stefan to It, who's one of their better players, goes down,
Speaker 1: this is not a thin team. This is a team
Speaker 1: that can survive some of the injuries that occur over
Speaker 1: the course of the year. You mentioned Bud Dupree, who
Speaker 1: made a big play and then bust out at dance
Speaker 1: that I will get of the name the erotic frog.
Speaker 1: All right, So if the Indianapolis Colts general manager ever
Speaker 1: asked me my favorite type of frog, I will tell
Speaker 1: him it is, Well, do you want to ask me
Speaker 1: what's your favorite type of frog? The erotic frog let's
Speaker 1: move on any stands. There's pressure, he clutches, he throws
Speaker 1: a lot down, the right type of catch up, the
Speaker 1: thirty the thunder at the time zone, cuckdown Patriots, that
Speaker 1: tull Zacher? Who is that again, Scott? Is that Zolack
Speaker 1: again to his old tricks. That's your team, Greg, not
Speaker 1: a that's your team, tam Posey. It's like a frat
Speaker 1: ranger in the booth up there. It's not aceurce of
Speaker 1: pride for me on the throne of ease. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: threw three touchdown passes uh in, including that deep strike
Speaker 1: to Gronk his sixty nine career scored nice, and the
Speaker 1: Patriots rolled over the Saints in a thirty six to
Speaker 1: twenty win at the Superdome. Uh was that three or
Speaker 1: four touch on sold for Tommy? I know he threw
Speaker 1: three in the first quarters, just three. It ended up
Speaker 1: sticking at three, tougher fantasy owners who were staring down
Speaker 1: the barrel of the all time performance in fantasy, but
Speaker 1: still a great, great, great showing from Tommy boy. Greg
Speaker 1: Brady had a games worth of production in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: and the Patriots got exactly the type of win they
Speaker 1: needed After that Week one let down. This was one
Speaker 1: of the best Tom Brady games I've ever seen. It
Speaker 1: is certainly one of the best Tom Brady has of
Speaker 1: all time. And every clown that immediately says, well, it
Speaker 1: was the Saints, that's the laziest answer to someone that
Speaker 1: hasn't watched the game. If you watched this game, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady had about five or six throws in the first
Speaker 1: quarter where he made outstanding moves in the pocket or
Speaker 1: he made a beautiful throw. He was I for five
Speaker 1: on third down. This all with only three receivers on
Speaker 1: his team, two of which got hurt during the game.
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan and Philip Door set so they were in
Speaker 1: and out and Brady was just playing with some of
Speaker 1: these Saints safety's and a lot of these throws had
Speaker 1: to be right on the money. I'm telling you, if
Speaker 1: if you watch it, just not many. There are so
Speaker 1: few quarterbacks in NFL history that would have done that.
Speaker 1: Even though it was the Saints, it was a really
Speaker 1: impressive bounce back from Week one. Brady thirty seven yards,
Speaker 1: his third high, his third highest yardage total ever. Like
Speaker 1: I said, in a game where Rob Gronkowski ended up
Speaker 1: leaving after three quarters, with an injury. They called it
Speaker 1: a groin injury. Dorset was out late in the game,
Speaker 1: Burkehead had a little injury late like, and yet they
Speaker 1: were just still moving the ball really at well. I
Speaker 1: mean Brady, that's the magic of Brady is that he
Speaker 1: whatever's whoever's in there. And this is even before he
Speaker 1: became a statistical monster, He's always made the best of
Speaker 1: his of his cast around him. He completed thirty passes
Speaker 1: is to nine different receivers. UH. Gronk was targeted nine
Speaker 1: times at the six for one sixteen in touch That's
Speaker 1: something to watch, though I think he injured the growing
Speaker 1: I believe on the touchdown catch. Came out of the
Speaker 1: game later, also dropped a touchdown, a short touchdown at
Speaker 1: the end of the first half. UH. And there was
Speaker 1: a report on NBC from Mike Florio UH Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk that the Patriots, at least publicly, we're saying it's
Speaker 1: not thought to be a serious injury, something that's gonna
Speaker 1: cost him extended time. But that doesn't necessarily that's gonna
Speaker 1: mean that's gonna be the case. And if you know
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know they'll be very tight lipped about this.
Speaker 1: But he knows. With Gronk at this point, he's a
Speaker 1: big question mark. Every time he gets hurt, it is.
Speaker 1: It's a concern because for a second you got excited
Speaker 1: that this is the old Gronk with the fifty three
Speaker 1: yard touchdown UH and being physical. He played so well
Speaker 1: against Kenny Vaccaro that the Saints benched Kenny Vacaro in
Speaker 1: the second half of the game because he couldn't cover
Speaker 1: Gronk one on one and I'm thinking he was on
Speaker 1: top of Gronk and on all his place. Who can
Speaker 1: cover Gronk one on one? I think that uh was
Speaker 1: left over from the week prior when Kenny McCarty got
Speaker 1: burned a couple of times against the Vikings too. So
Speaker 1: I think that's a build up. And you know, for
Speaker 1: the Saints, um, what do you say? I mean, here
Speaker 1: we go oh and two again the defense once again
Speaker 1: looks like to be a major liability. And it's the
Speaker 1: same thing over and over again at this point, the
Speaker 1: team that's gone seven or nine year after year. Drew
Speaker 1: Brees and the press conference afterwards says, you know, this
Speaker 1: is not acceptable and it's not where you want to be,
Speaker 1: and it just all started. It feels so familiar the
Speaker 1: plight of the Saints now, yeah, and you just wonder, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, how many more years of this we're gonna
Speaker 1: see with Sean Payton the coach and Drew Brees talking
Speaker 1: about how they gotta put it together and get a run,
Speaker 1: because what usually happens, They do get a run and
Speaker 1: they get back in position by the middle of the season.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, these slow starts
Speaker 1: they kill you because you can't go into another funk.
Speaker 1: And now they're staring down the barrel and oh and
Speaker 1: three going into next week, And year after year it
Speaker 1: always comes back to their defense and and and how
Speaker 1: they've struggled to address these problems, whether they've been they
Speaker 1: by the cap or they've missed on some picks. Even
Speaker 1: your guy, how do you say his last name, alex
Speaker 1: ANZELONEI was caught, you know, uh, fishing, I guess today
Speaker 1: on a touchdown. I'm the Gronkowski played But that that's
Speaker 1: kind of what I was talking about. That was an
Speaker 1: clearly an improvised play where Gronk and Brady both read
Speaker 1: the same thing. Brady threw it when Gronk was anything
Speaker 1: but open. He had great pass protection, so you can
Speaker 1: fault the Saints for that, and that's just two Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame players kind of coming up with something out
Speaker 1: of thin air and drilling a rookie who had covered
Speaker 1: Gronk well on that play. So that's them getting beaten.
Speaker 1: I would be a little market just as concerned if
Speaker 1: I'm a Saints fan that the Drew Brees and the
Speaker 1: Saints offense to me was out of sync for much
Speaker 1: of this game. They only had thirteen points I believe
Speaker 1: through their first eight drives against a pretty ah I
Speaker 1: think vulnerable Patriots defense in general, and they couldn't finish
Speaker 1: drives and the timing was off, whether it was Ted
Speaker 1: Gin or Kobe Fleaner on one play, just someone Brandon
Speaker 1: Coleman may can just a small mistake and Breeze not
Speaker 1: being like a hundred sharp, and they have to be
Speaker 1: so good on offense to survive with this team and
Speaker 1: no running game whatsoever. Fifty four yards rushing until then
Speaker 1: till the final garbage time run by mark Ingram and
Speaker 1: keep an eye on this Adrian Peterson eighty six. That's
Speaker 1: about three yards to carry. And we'll see if this
Speaker 1: season starts going sideways, what happens next one one last
Speaker 1: thing or two last things quickly, Patriots. Maybe to last things,
Speaker 1: Patriots might have found a pass rusher in Dietrich Wise,
Speaker 1: a fourth round draft pick who had four or five
Speaker 1: QB hits in a sack between him and Trey Flowers.
Speaker 1: That's good two rookies starts. Sure, it was a great performance.
Speaker 1: And then after the game, uh, Tom Brady pointed out
Speaker 1: that James White, he called him what, I've had a
Speaker 1: lot of great teammates, but James White is absolutely one
Speaker 1: of the best teammates I have ever had, and James
Speaker 1: White has really gotten better. Chris Wesley and our friend
Speaker 1: pointed out on Twitter that this is a guy that's
Speaker 1: developed to another level. He was essentially a wide receiver
Speaker 1: for them today and has made a huge different. But
Speaker 1: what a great what a great time to be a
Speaker 1: Patriots And all is well. They had to deal with
Speaker 1: like nine straight days of uncertainty now, but everything's figured out.
Speaker 1: Greg has a bounce in a step in the newsroom. Erica,
Speaker 1: you could tell she you just got a grin. Everything.
Speaker 1: Everything's back to normal, right. They were down to one
Speaker 1: healthy receiver and they gotta play on Thursday. How are
Speaker 1: they going to do it? Out. How are they gonna
Speaker 1: do it? I don't think they can. Let's move on
Speaker 1: in the gun first and goal from the two takes
Speaker 1: the snap roll to the right, Throws quickly touched down
Speaker 1: the Ravens Jeremy Macklin on the receiving end, and the
Speaker 1: Ravens as time expired, kept back in the end zone.
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco look good, Jeremy Macklin made a play, and
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense was at it again, forcing five turnovers,
Speaker 1: four from rookie passer to Shaun Kaiser and routin over
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Um. I believe Erica tamposey uh, Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler locked this one up, so we probably should do
Speaker 1: little housekeeping here, little housekeeping in Mark's defense, I mean
Speaker 1: that's bold. Yeah, that's housekeeping. Is that gonna listen to
Speaker 1: this anyway? Shook? This had been billed as a season
Speaker 1: or you know, still has been built as a season
Speaker 1: of her birth for the Browns, but this one felt
Speaker 1: like just another double shift at the factory of sadness.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm taking the blow for that housekeeping there.
Speaker 1: I thought that one in my chest, the Browns Nick
Speaker 1: took for for our listeners should it. We should point
Speaker 1: out that you two are afflicted with the Browns um
Speaker 1: more conventional. He was born in Ohio? And where's in Ohio?
Speaker 1: Born raised in Akron, Ohio and spent many many sad
Speaker 1: Sundays in Section row three, seat one stadium. And how
Speaker 1: old are you? Nick? Just so the audience knows, I
Speaker 1: am twenty five years old? And how long have the
Speaker 1: Browns been back in the NFL? H what's this? Eighteen years?
Speaker 1: Do the map? Everybody? I was at the first game
Speaker 1: at that stadium. Anyways, you don't know Bernie Cozar, No,
Speaker 1: I was just you know, not not not exactly a
Speaker 1: person that go ahead, tell tell us all, tell us all.
Speaker 1: Why the Browns? Uh, we're so thoroughly overmatched on Sunday.
Speaker 1: That's a great way to say it. Uh, well, you
Speaker 1: got to start with Deshaun Kaiser, who took a major
Speaker 1: step back this week. Everything was positive, the sun was shining.
Speaker 1: Everybody was excited about the Browns after last week and
Speaker 1: their close loss because the bar is very low. But
Speaker 1: Kaiser did not look as sharp this week. He was
Speaker 1: about a full beat behind in the pocket, holding onto
Speaker 1: the ball too long, uh, not getting out of the pocket,
Speaker 1: and making some decisions that just really really didn't didn't
Speaker 1: bode well for them. He threw three interceptions and this
Speaker 1: is most of those coming after he returned from having
Speaker 1: a migraine. He had a migraine that kicked him out
Speaker 1: of the game, and Uh in relief Kevin Hogan, who
Speaker 1: started a little controversy with one quick drive for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: then fell apart as well. Because the quarterback situation there
Speaker 1: is dires you're what it is. But on the other side,
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I mean, their defense is playing extremely well.
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco had more of an expanded role in the
Speaker 1: passing game for once. All Right, how did Flacco look
Speaker 1: like physically? Watching Week one? I and I didn't get
Speaker 1: to it until later in the week. I left that
Speaker 1: game thinking, oh, boy, like I would be a little
Speaker 1: worried if I was a Ravens fan, just because he
Speaker 1: the way he was. He was moving like a guy
Speaker 1: who had a back injury. How did he look today?
Speaker 1: I kind of thought that at times too, especially when
Speaker 1: he was trying to be evade pressure. But he was
Speaker 1: mostly accurate his numbers. He was I think he was
Speaker 1: in the thirties. Yeah, it looks good. About seven yards
Speaker 1: per attempt to Yeah, and uh, except for a few
Speaker 1: times when he threw a ball up I was basically
Speaker 1: an arm punt that was intercepted. He looked pretty effective
Speaker 1: for the mustart, but he did kind of look stiff
Speaker 1: in those throws. I think I thought he looked good.
Speaker 1: He when he rolled to his right, and I believe
Speaker 1: it was the Macklin touchdown. Uh, he showed he was
Speaker 1: able to move. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you look at the Ravens and we talked about if
Speaker 1: they're going to have a big season, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: riding that def ends and three and thirty seven total
Speaker 1: yards of offense, uh today, And they didn't light it
Speaker 1: up last week either. So the defense got the job done.
Speaker 1: And this is what you expect if you have if
Speaker 1: you really do have a premium defense and a rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback comes into your building, Uh, this is what you're expecting.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't you know. I know there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of Browns fans. I don't know if Mark's
Speaker 1: one of them. Um, and I'm I'm curious for you
Speaker 1: come down on this show that I don't feel any differently.
Speaker 1: I think this still kind of points to a season
Speaker 1: potentially of growth for the Browns. But there's some things
Speaker 1: I don't like. I don't like how grizzly the quarterback's
Speaker 1: performance was here. I don't like that they suffered injuries
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman. Now this is the second year in a row. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're talking about Corey Coleman suffering a hand injury. Jamie Collins,
Speaker 1: who they just gave a lot of money to and
Speaker 1: they're expecting him to make plays. He hasn't made a
Speaker 1: lot of plays for Cleveland, and he left this game
Speaker 1: with a concussion. So there are some things to start
Speaker 1: to get nervous about now that all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: all that positive vibes, it's own to his own. This
Speaker 1: is one of those games where in the last six
Speaker 1: minutes from the Browns were down by two possessions. I
Speaker 1: was kind of sitting there just watching, going, let's get
Speaker 1: this game over with two avoid injuries on either side.
Speaker 1: And that's when the Browns actually incurred most of those injuries.
Speaker 1: So that's right. It's really bad when it comes to that.
Speaker 1: But I had them at four and twelve going into
Speaker 1: the season. Overall, you know, to finish the season with
Speaker 1: a height maximum height of six and ten. Anything below
Speaker 1: four and twelve, you're talking about maybe a coaching change,
Speaker 1: which would be really bad for this entire regime, considering
Speaker 1: it's a multi year rebuild. It's only one week though,
Speaker 1: Ye yeah, if I'm a Ravens fan, though, I'm excited
Speaker 1: about the fact that, Yeah, I'm winning games with Buck
Speaker 1: Allen as the lead running back and Alex Collins and
Speaker 1: Terence West, you know, is out of the line so
Speaker 1: far in two games. I just did the math, I
Speaker 1: would have scored a lot higher than thirty on the
Speaker 1: New York stated Man math test twelve twelve targets for
Speaker 1: Mike Wallace and Brisade Paraman over two weeks. Twelve targets
Speaker 1: a total of twenty yards from those two players, and
Speaker 1: yet they're waking good. That's not good. But I think
Speaker 1: this team has up side. They have players that can
Speaker 1: be better on offense. I think they're gonna figure the
Speaker 1: offense out as they go. And if they're winning games
Speaker 1: and their defense is this good as they go, that's
Speaker 1: a team with the high ceiling. Yeah. I thought there
Speaker 1: was gonna be one team in the a f C
Speaker 1: North that would be um, you know, the you know,
Speaker 1: the Browns are rebuilding, there would be a team that
Speaker 1: was kind of next to the Browns and not really
Speaker 1: in the mix. I thought that was gonna be the Ravens,
Speaker 1: and I thought the Bengals were gonna be okay. Now
Speaker 1: it looks like those two teams are gonna flip. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, realities, at least in the way I saw
Speaker 1: it coming. So the Ravens look great, and if their
Speaker 1: offense does click and and just get to the marginal level,
Speaker 1: get to the mediocre, because I don't think they're there yet.
Speaker 1: I mean C J. Mosley, just the fact they have
Speaker 1: huge difference makers at every level of the defense, Like
Speaker 1: their their linebackers are playing really well. They're defend like
Speaker 1: all three levels. They can make place. I think they
Speaker 1: have a chance based on that running game. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about how Alex Collins Buck Allen. They both
Speaker 1: looked pretty good and they didn't go down after the
Speaker 1: first hit, which is saying something for that offense. If
Speaker 1: the Ravens are one of the best defenses or the
Speaker 1: best defense in the a f C, the Caroline and
Speaker 1: Panthers staking a claim as the NFC's best defense, let's
Speaker 1: check it own. Them. Here we go fourth and eleven
Speaker 1: Bills at the thirty three yard line. The snap, Taylor
Speaker 1: looks down field. They fled the field of receivers. He
Speaker 1: got a man open Z Jones and he can't make
Speaker 1: the catch at the four yard line. Z Jones got
Speaker 1: both hands on it at the four. It was up high.
Speaker 1: He could not bring it down and that will do
Speaker 1: it with nine seconds left to play, That's the Bill's
Speaker 1: call for sure. Bill's rookies A Jones couldn't come down
Speaker 1: with a slightly errant pass from Tyrod Taylor, allowing the
Speaker 1: Panthers to escape with a nine three win uh in
Speaker 1: an uninspiring effort by both sides in Charlotte. Overall, this
Speaker 1: was a cost louin for the Panthers to tight end.
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, who's been the heart and solved that passing
Speaker 1: game for years, will be sidelined indefinitely after suffering a
Speaker 1: broken foot after the game. Olsen, who started eight one
Speaker 1: straight games for that team, third most in history of
Speaker 1: the Panthers, I'm going to miss a lot of games,
Speaker 1: so that's a big bummer. And Cam Newton again looked
Speaker 1: very rusty and his accuracy remains a major concern. Uh,
Speaker 1: he misfired and this was the low point of his game,
Speaker 1: which was I believe the last passing through of the day.
Speaker 1: He misfired on what was a gimme touchdown to Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 1: should have been a two yard touchdown, would have iced
Speaker 1: the game late in the fourth quarter, opened the door
Speaker 1: for the Bills down nine three, and uh God, it's
Speaker 1: tough being it has to be tough because after after
Speaker 1: all this fight, the defense putting it up, putting up
Speaker 1: such an incredible fight all game, and keeping the offense
Speaker 1: in the game, they cross over into Carolina territory and
Speaker 1: they just cannot make plays. A Jones I think should
Speaker 1: have had the ball. You should have It should have
Speaker 1: been ball at the two yard line with I don't
Speaker 1: know what had been thirty seconds or so left. Maybe
Speaker 1: they get in, maybe they don't. But that's what that's
Speaker 1: the difference between good and bad teams. And you wonder, guys,
Speaker 1: if the Bills, and I know Tyrod Taylor is not
Speaker 1: is not all to blame, but how much rope he
Speaker 1: has in Buffalo. He threw for fifteen yards in the
Speaker 1: first half and they had one first down in the
Speaker 1: first half and they scored three three points after scoring
Speaker 1: twenty one against the Jets last week. The Bills have
Speaker 1: problems on offense, they do, but I think they're playing,
Speaker 1: as you said, one of the best defenses in football.
Speaker 1: I said it going into this season that on paper, Rivera,
Speaker 1: I think this is the defense he's really been building
Speaker 1: to the whole time he's been there. I know they
Speaker 1: had a fifteen and one team, but I think the
Speaker 1: potential of this defense is even greater when you have
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers coming back to the flow and getting a
Speaker 1: couple of sacks in the mix too, good, Thomas Davis
Speaker 1: still making plays, and then the younger players on this
Speaker 1: defense also stepping up. It's they're gonna be a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, look that we've talked about defense kind of
Speaker 1: winning the day. Early in this NFL season, the bill
Speaker 1: has had a hundred and seventy six yards the Panthers
Speaker 1: only had twoft Those are those are games we were
Speaker 1: not seen in in two thousand sixteen too often, and
Speaker 1: they're happening a lot more often. Yeah, I think the
Speaker 1: Bills are in a weird position for me as a franchise.
Speaker 1: I know, early in Week two of the season, but
Speaker 1: they have some signs of a team that could either
Speaker 1: go a few changes away from being competitive again, or
Speaker 1: they could be a few changes in the opposite direction
Speaker 1: away from blowing the whole thing up. They're caught in
Speaker 1: the gray, they're caughting the right and Cam Newton something
Speaker 1: to watch. He got his ankle twisted. It was the
Speaker 1: same ankle he's had surgically repaired. He said after the
Speaker 1: game that he kind of stopped himself. He said, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to say what I originally thought it was,
Speaker 1: but was otherwise seemed relieved, um that it wasn't more serious,
Speaker 1: But I thought it was telling. And maybe it was
Speaker 1: because he got dinged up. But that drive I mentioned
Speaker 1: early on when they had first and goal from the
Speaker 1: one yard line with a chance to make it thirteen
Speaker 1: three and for all intents and purposes and the game, uh,
Speaker 1: that is prime. If you've been watching the Pathers the
Speaker 1: past five years, Newton one of their little gadget plays
Speaker 1: where he just not even gadget play called play and
Speaker 1: Newton sneaks it in either on a draw or getting
Speaker 1: behind a center or guard. It's being guards. Marshal Leanda
Speaker 1: got hurt for the Ravens and that that we'll see
Speaker 1: how serious that is. But in this case, uh, with
Speaker 1: the Panthers, Newton never tried a running play, never try
Speaker 1: to running play. They passed it, did a run and
Speaker 1: a pass and it didn't work out. So are they
Speaker 1: still going to use him the same way as his body? Okay,
Speaker 1: enough to use it the way they used to. We'll see.
Speaker 1: He was one of the best short yardage but backs
Speaker 1: in the league. I know he's a quarterback, but he's
Speaker 1: one of the best short yardage players in the league.
Speaker 1: The numbers say it. It's what made their offense and
Speaker 1: running a taxas special. It's been surprising to see Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey bottled up the first couple of weeks. This has
Speaker 1: also been a season where we've kind of worried about
Speaker 1: franchise quarterbacks with Newton and luck, so I'm not totally
Speaker 1: surprised to see if they're not running him at all,
Speaker 1: does that affect their offense and how many things they
Speaker 1: can definitely do And just to put a bow on it,
Speaker 1: the Ravens did uh the circle back announced Marshal Yonda,
Speaker 1: who a lot of people believe the best garden football
Speaker 1: meant to mention that during the Browns game is out
Speaker 1: for the season, which is a monster loss. That's a
Speaker 1: big loss. Uh, let's move on. Here's up. We've got
Speaker 1: plenty of dishors made. It's like a bunch of Grandpa's
Speaker 1: all fired up, but failed field goal conversion has felled
Speaker 1: the Charges for the second time in six days. Young Way,
Speaker 1: who's forty four yard attempts sailled wide right with seconds
Speaker 1: to play. A sour ending for the Chargers in their
Speaker 1: Los Angeles debut in nineteen seventeen. Win for the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: who get out of Dodge with a victory. That was
Speaker 1: actually the Hodgson family's reaction watching from the crowd. They
Speaker 1: went to see their beloved Dolphins. Uh yeah, congratulations to
Speaker 1: handsome Hank nick Shook. Uh who's who's failure shouldn't overshadow
Speaker 1: the hero beas of Cody Parkey, who's fifty four yard
Speaker 1: or with one oh five to play served as the difference.
Speaker 1: Cody Parkey, who was a kicker who in Miami last
Speaker 1: year couldn't make a game winner. Just a little flashback
Speaker 1: to that. Uh yeah, he you know, he made three
Speaker 1: field goals down the stretch. That was huge for a
Speaker 1: Miami offense that continually struggled to get the ball in
Speaker 1: the end zone when they really needed to, and the
Speaker 1: Chargers gave them as many opportunities as they'd like. But
Speaker 1: credit to the Los Angeles defense for standing tall inside
Speaker 1: the red zone. But really, this game comes down to
Speaker 1: why couldn't the Chargers hang onto the lead because they
Speaker 1: had a seventeen to ten lead for what seemed like
Speaker 1: an eternity and completely abandoned the run game. I know
Speaker 1: they weren't doing well on the run on the ground
Speaker 1: to begin with, but when you have a lead and
Speaker 1: you're at home and you're your home opener in a
Speaker 1: new stadium, bleed some clock. And they didn't do that,
Speaker 1: and it came back to bite them in the end
Speaker 1: because they gave the Dolphins enough time to get down
Speaker 1: at the field goal arrange and nail one for the
Speaker 1: Chargers fans that followed the team and stayed with them,
Speaker 1: you know up the five, you know freeway into Carson.
Speaker 1: This has to just feel so ridiculous, lesslie familiar that
Speaker 1: you get into another fourth quarter and you go punt punt,
Speaker 1: missed game winning field goal to end the game while
Speaker 1: you give up two scoring drives to the other team.
Speaker 1: It's the exact, the exact same thing of what's been
Speaker 1: happening now for a year, and after a while, it's
Speaker 1: gotta make you go crazy if you're if you're Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: if you're a charges player, right, it was making me
Speaker 1: go crazy, and I'm I just barely adopted that. Well you,
Speaker 1: I mean, you were all down on a mess. You
Speaker 1: were like so emotional, and uh, I get it. I
Speaker 1: get it because if it's a team that you imagine
Speaker 1: actually being and seeing Coo miss it, and I was
Speaker 1: going a little crazy. Not to cut you off about
Speaker 1: the game management at the end of the game, Anthony
Speaker 1: Lynn settling for that field goal when he had more time,
Speaker 1: It's okay to try to get the ball further. This
Speaker 1: isn't Herm Edwards or the party Schottenheimer's School of Football,
Speaker 1: where oh, let's just once we get a forty five
Speaker 1: yard field goal, let's stop playing football and making as
Speaker 1: hard as possible on the rookie kicker who, by the way,
Speaker 1: just barely made an extra point and missed a kick
Speaker 1: from the exact same distance. Oh, by the way, yeah,
Speaker 1: it brought back flashbox for me. For Doug Bryan in
Speaker 1: the two thousand four playoffs. You do not listen, you
Speaker 1: don't you have your quarterback slide over and to set
Speaker 1: up the right hash mark for your field goal kicker
Speaker 1: when you're kicking a chip shot, when it's like that,
Speaker 1: but when you're sliding doing that slide where you snap
Speaker 1: it and like to take two steps, yeah you do that.
Speaker 1: You don't do it setting up a forty four yard
Speaker 1: field goal because I know the kicking game has come
Speaker 1: a long way in the NFL, and a forty four
Speaker 1: yard or is a lot more solid and attempt than
Speaker 1: it used to be. But that is not a gimme.
Speaker 1: You're much better off trying to like a And you
Speaker 1: got Philip Rivers, who's one of the most accurate pastors
Speaker 1: in the league moving the ball. He's thirty one of
Speaker 1: thirty nine in the game. You all you do is
Speaker 1: do a little post route. You getting like two or
Speaker 1: three yards, you make that you stop the spike at you. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: you just don't do that because guess what the football
Speaker 1: gods who are probably already annoyed about the sand Diego thing,
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, he moves over to slide a little
Speaker 1: bit to the right, and then the kicker and this
Speaker 1: is wide right, my goodness, And I hope that cook
Speaker 1: kicker has a job because I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are rooting for the kid, and I am it
Speaker 1: sucked the way things ended last week when he actually
Speaker 1: made the game tying attempt in his first game, only
Speaker 1: to see the ice time out that Colleen Wolf loves
Speaker 1: so much. I hope you were happy breaking that guy's heart, Connie.
Speaker 1: And now he's missed another kick, and you wonder if
Speaker 1: his job's safe. Now that's football. I do give credit
Speaker 1: for Rivers to Rivers for handling it like a pro
Speaker 1: after the game, because he's used to this, instead of
Speaker 1: getting questions about all how heartbreaking was another last second
Speaker 1: loss because they lost to the Dolphins, you know on
Speaker 1: one of the final players last year too, with the
Speaker 1: Kiko Alonso pick six, which pretty much wrapped that one up.
Speaker 1: Happened to yes, exactly. And then and then he goes
Speaker 1: into the press conference this year and instead of getting
Speaker 1: questions about the game so much, he's getting asked about
Speaker 1: how did you feel about the atmosphere? What was it
Speaker 1: like to have a bunch of fans in the stand,
Speaker 1: especially off a loss, and he said there was a
Speaker 1: lot of Dolphins like I like the energy. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of Dolphins games, but we're used to it. Essentially,
Speaker 1: they been concerned for them that they can't get any
Speaker 1: running game going. By the way, Melvin Gordon nine for
Speaker 1: I though, a big concern. They've got twenty five thousand
Speaker 1: in that building for the first game, not a sellout
Speaker 1: at the Stubbub Center. And we'll hear from Mark Cecil
Speaker 1: on Tuesday who's they're covering the game. And by the way,
Speaker 1: one positive for the Chargers, Antonio Gates finally got that
Speaker 1: elusive hundred and twelve touchdown. He's now the all time
Speaker 1: NFL leader at tight ends. Congrats to Antonio gets who
Speaker 1: did you know guys used to play college bass? And
Speaker 1: welcome back Jake Cutler. A look for redemption, left to right,
Speaker 1: clean snapping spot, right footed kick. It's in the air,
Speaker 1: it's got the lag and it's good. Phil Dawson connects
Speaker 1: from thirty yards out and he redeems his mistake at
Speaker 1: the conclusion of regulation. Phil Dawson's thirty yard field goal
Speaker 1: and overtime served as atonement. I like the way I
Speaker 1: described the better after a miss at the end of
Speaker 1: regulation and the Cardinals escaped Indianapolis with a win over
Speaker 1: the Jake Brisket led Colts. Shook, we will be handing
Speaker 1: out lollipops to a Cardinals team that needed five quarters
Speaker 1: to beat the Colts, but Carson Palmer and company will
Speaker 1: take the comeback victory that comes their way. Man, it's
Speaker 1: a battle of an aptitude. Both teams were just not
Speaker 1: very good for most of the afternoon. For a while,
Speaker 1: it looked like Mr Briskett was gonna get that elusive
Speaker 1: W until we got down to the final moments and
Speaker 1: Phil Dawson couldn't hit the game winner, which, as you said,
Speaker 1: nice atonement in overtime game and knock it, uh send
Speaker 1: them home with a W. I think kind of a
Speaker 1: big win for the Cardinals just because it would have
Speaker 1: looked really bad for them to lose the road if
Speaker 1: they lose to the Cults on the road with Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck and a sling or whatever. It's like absolutely, And
Speaker 1: I also think it's still an uphill battle for them,
Speaker 1: but hey, you know they're tread and water. They didn't
Speaker 1: have John Brown in this game. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: this is not the Cardinals passing attack that we knew
Speaker 1: John Brown's not there pretty often. David Johnson obviously is
Speaker 1: not there. You know you have Geron Brown as your
Speaker 1: second receiver. He had eleven targets but only four catches
Speaker 1: in the game. You never know how a season is
Speaker 1: going to go. That's why these wins sometimes earlier. You
Speaker 1: always can turn it around. But they're gonna be on
Speaker 1: Monday Night football again. The Cowboys next week game I'm
Speaker 1: going to and they have some tough sledding. Um shook.
Speaker 1: I do have a question. So Carson Palmer um was
Speaker 1: tracking other games work closely during this game and and
Speaker 1: his numbers at the end of the day look okay,
Speaker 1: nineteen and thirty six two yards and threw a touchdown.
Speaker 1: How to pick but nine point two yards per tempt?
Speaker 1: This is a game. My tweet deck was just filled
Speaker 1: with people putting Carson Palmer underground, uh and moving on
Speaker 1: as a franchise. Even my buddy Jason Zumwalt, was a
Speaker 1: huge Cardinals fan, had a uh tweet along lines of
Speaker 1: blow it up and start over? Uh? Did he get hot?
Speaker 1: Is that? Because his numbers look okay to me? Super
Speaker 1: inflated by the second half. It was so bad in
Speaker 1: the first half, Bruce Arians basically threw Hi under the
Speaker 1: bus the Cydeline reporter who came out with very rarely
Speaker 1: happens the scathing Sydeline report to open the second half,
Speaker 1: saying that uh, Carson Palmer was the problem and that
Speaker 1: they needed to get fixed in all kinds of that.
Speaker 1: You know, I love Bruce Arians, but you know, Bruce
Speaker 1: is pretty wild sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, And and he was
Speaker 1: pretty wild there too. I think they're they're feeling the heat.
Speaker 1: I mean they kind of. I think they all have
Speaker 1: it in this head that they have to make this
Speaker 1: season count. And we're suddenly down at halftime against the Colts,
Speaker 1: and it's feeling like, Wow, this is a long season ahead.
Speaker 1: It does make a huge it does make it a
Speaker 1: huge win. Just to get it, get it in there.
Speaker 1: You never know. I got Yeah, I guess I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like the Sideline report, everybody knows it's silly and ridiculous
Speaker 1: and probably doesn't need to exist. If I was the coach,
Speaker 1: I would go to the Greg Popovitch route. I would
Speaker 1: like send it up and be subversive about it and
Speaker 1: not actually be roasting my quarterback to the country out.
Speaker 1: You keep that stuff in the house, I do if
Speaker 1: you've credit to J. J. Nelson who stepped up with
Speaker 1: his other teammates out five catches a hunter twenty yards
Speaker 1: and a touchdown and should have had two touchdowns if
Speaker 1: he could have gotten a little quarter of his foot inbounds. Nick,
Speaker 1: it's very big of you to give a shout out
Speaker 1: to J. J. Nelson. Let's move on. M Brussel takes
Speaker 1: a shotguns now looks now he's got a scramble. Now
Speaker 1: he looks straight at him, still scrambling. The website is
Speaker 1: that Paul Richardson touchdown catch was seven or nine to play?
Speaker 1: Was the difference for the Seahawks? Whoever, whoever came another
Speaker 1: subpart performance on offense to squeak past twelve to nine
Speaker 1: at the claim these are the games that that he
Speaker 1: was watching. You got the offensive challenge, offensively challenge game,
Speaker 1: I got twelve nine, I got nine three, and then
Speaker 1: my favorite teams eight play the game. I didn't say
Speaker 1: who it was. If you're new to this podcast, you
Speaker 1: have no idea which team I'm talking about. Um Anyway,
Speaker 1: Seattle snapped a streak of more than a twelve minutes
Speaker 1: without a touchdown with that score, that's the type of
Speaker 1: stuff that gets offensive coordinators fired in Nick Shook's home state.
Speaker 1: But for the Seattle Seahawks, I think they're willing to
Speaker 1: write it off and expect this to be the start
Speaker 1: of better things. The Seahawks started last season in a
Speaker 1: very similar fashion, basically going one and one to start
Speaker 1: the year with absolutely no offense. They've traditionally started slow
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. The issues remain the same. The players
Speaker 1: are different, though. The fact that Chris Carson, the guy
Speaker 1: that we talked about a lot in the preseason, was
Speaker 1: the one closing out the game here that Eddie Lacey
Speaker 1: is a healthy, scratch healthy they said. After the game,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll said, we wanted to get Thomas Rawls kind
Speaker 1: of into the mix. Slowly, he'll get more and more
Speaker 1: work as as he goes like It's it's pretty telling
Speaker 1: that Carson is the one out there and had a
Speaker 1: pretty good day. From the look car he he made
Speaker 1: a number of big plays on the ground. I mean
Speaker 1: he's not explosive, He's not making you think this is
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch's prime bute and and move the chains and
Speaker 1: put them in good down and distant situations. Uh, Thomas Rawls,
Speaker 1: who you A lot of people thought he would end
Speaker 1: up winning this battle and be there their bell cow.
Speaker 1: Maybe that happens, but it makes you think that they
Speaker 1: still don't think he's right. He had um just five
Speaker 1: carries for four yards in this game, So you know,
Speaker 1: I think I think they'll figure it out. I'm shaking
Speaker 1: a little bit. My confidence is definitely shaking. Two teams
Speaker 1: that I thought we're gonna have really strong offenses this year, uh,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Seattle, and in both cases it's kind of
Speaker 1: a mess right now. Seattle, I feel more strongly about
Speaker 1: them getting it together, but it was they were just
Speaker 1: good enough to beat the forty niners at home, and
Speaker 1: to me, that's a little bit alarming. Uh, they got
Speaker 1: a show with something going forward. I have a feeling
Speaker 1: already continue to see a little bit of a revolving
Speaker 1: door in the backfield, just because we've seen in the
Speaker 1: past that Pete Carroll is not afraid to go with
Speaker 1: the guy who he thinks he's gonna work best in
Speaker 1: a week to week basis, and I think this was
Speaker 1: no different. But yeah, what's up with the Seattle offense
Speaker 1: and a lack of points and also a little bit
Speaker 1: of a leaky offensive line for the second year in
Speaker 1: a row. And now, so what happened to the Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan's offense will travel and you know Brian Hoyer, maybe
Speaker 1: he's not a superstar, but he'll put up numbers in
Speaker 1: that offense. Not so far. First of all, quarterback throwing
Speaker 1: for yards and four quarters is grim. We don't even
Speaker 1: this is sub gabbards on three point seven yard it's
Speaker 1: for attempt. That's hard to watch. The X defense has
Speaker 1: shown up for eight quarters, so that that's so far
Speaker 1: they're exactly what we expected. Let's move on to the
Speaker 1: a f C. Here's Henry on the left side to
Speaker 1: the Tan breaks the tackle to the five barrels this
Speaker 1: way end of the end zone touch down. The grown man,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Delaney, Walker, and Jalston Fowler all rushed for
Speaker 1: touchdowns in the Tennessee That I got the right. I
Speaker 1: like that all rush for touchdowns and the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: had no problem pulling away from the Jacksonville Jaguars a
Speaker 1: thirty seven to sixteen win. And uh, I guess there's
Speaker 1: two big picture takeaways from this for me guys. The
Speaker 1: Titans doing not they take care of business doing nice
Speaker 1: job washing out that week one loss, which was probably
Speaker 1: a little bit humbling to lose at home to the Raiders. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then the Jaguars welcome back to Earth after you
Speaker 1: know we we in this very studio. I remember there
Speaker 1: were being conversations, Oh, well, you know what I'm in
Speaker 1: on this team with their defense and running game. Maybe
Speaker 1: you know I, well, you can't buy out if you
Speaker 1: never bought And I'm saying is in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I know this is the new dominant defense NFL. Everybody
Speaker 1: get excited for this year. But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you cannot hide your quarterback in Blake Bortles.
Speaker 1: Here we go again. Uh, there's two more picks and
Speaker 1: is is just not the answer? And Anya, any time
Speaker 1: Greg they' getting a deficit, they're gonna need their quarterback
Speaker 1: to make plays, right it was. This is the final
Speaker 1: score feels misleading because it was six three at halftime,
Speaker 1: but the Titans offense basically woke up did what they
Speaker 1: wanted to do in the second half. I think you
Speaker 1: have to give a game ball to our friend Chris Wesley,
Speaker 1: maybe a second one to Dan Handison. I'll explain why
Speaker 1: the first one to Chris Wesley at halftime, he's saying,
Speaker 1: Eric Decker not really looking great, to Marco Murray not
Speaker 1: looking too good. Let's get the ball more to Derrick
Speaker 1: Henry and Taiwan Taylor. So what happens in the second half.
Speaker 1: They get the ball to Derrick Henry and he really
Speaker 1: picked up that running game, gave it some juice, made
Speaker 1: it possible for them to control the ball. Taiwan Taylor
Speaker 1: didn't have a monster second half by any means, but
Speaker 1: they got him the ball a few more times, including
Speaker 1: a forty two yard game. He adds a little juice
Speaker 1: where Decker looks like a guy that maybe, in West's words,
Speaker 1: might have left a little something down the operating table.
Speaker 1: We'll see long term. So that was a good adjustment.
Speaker 1: And then Dan Hansis gets a game ball too because
Speaker 1: he said, he said, if you want me to stop
Speaker 1: calling you the Tytoons, then you gotta come in and
Speaker 1: you gotta show up with a big performance and just
Speaker 1: put this team away. And what did they do thirty
Speaker 1: seven sixteen. They're not They're the Titans, That's what I'm saying. Okay, okay, Well,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna talk about names, right, what happened to
Speaker 1: saxon Set me up there? What happened to Saxonville? For
Speaker 1: geting rid of Titoons after this week? What happened to Saxonville? Well,
Speaker 1: I think they held on for as long as they
Speaker 1: could and Bordles and the Jags offense had turnovers and
Speaker 1: three straight drives setting up short fields, and after a while,
Speaker 1: you can only do so much. It bummed me out
Speaker 1: because I spent a couple of hours watching the Jags
Speaker 1: Week one film and giving them all kinds of credit
Speaker 1: for their offensive line. This week, I'm checking out the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans two thousand seventeen schedule. I'm not ready to
Speaker 1: call it not droppings. I want a big win. It's
Speaker 1: not difficult. Their entire division has a nice schedule in division,
Speaker 1: out of division. They're fine about this. At home against
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, a team that we know is a very
Speaker 1: good team, but maybe struggling a little bit on offense.
Speaker 1: Give me a w there? And is that asking so
Speaker 1: much from the Tytoons to win that game? No excuses? No, Oh,
Speaker 1: well it's a tough opponent. No, you're in your building.
Speaker 1: You're facing a team that has not been able to
Speaker 1: get on track yet, win that game, and we'll revisit this,
Speaker 1: save it for the Week three preview pod. What about
Speaker 1: if they get that win, You're gonna keep it going,
Speaker 1: probably because it's good. It's a good podcast. And and
Speaker 1: if that happened, like Marcus Mariota can't have a first
Speaker 1: half like he had against Jackson Vory. They just kind
Speaker 1: of didn't show up, couldn't move the ball, and I'll
Speaker 1: do it. I can't do it. Let's move on it.
Speaker 1: Shot by Foster. Mason Foster stepped in front of a
Speaker 1: Jared Goff passed with less than two minutes to play,
Speaker 1: ensuring the Redskins would escape l at Kurt Russell bit
Speaker 1: there with twenty over the Rams. Minutes earlier the Redskins
Speaker 1: because you could tell by that call how exciting that
Speaker 1: play was a major point of the game. Uh minutes earlier,
Speaker 1: the Redskins had taken a lead on a Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: touchdown past to Ryan grant Um. This was not the
Speaker 1: same Redskins team that stumbled their way to a Week
Speaker 1: one lost at home. And I'll tell you what, Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: I'm very happy that we removed our locks on the
Speaker 1: Rams because the Rams like the Jags came down to
Speaker 1: earth and week two they did. Maybe we got a
Speaker 1: little too excited, and uh, you have to point out
Speaker 1: as as their friend Chris Wesley did on the right
Speaker 1: up again, he's back in the mix, right and there
Speaker 1: give another game ball. It's uh. He pointed out how
Speaker 1: Rob Kelly and Chris Thompson both really got to go
Speaker 1: and they had a hundred and sixty seven yards rushing
Speaker 1: at the half, so they controlled this game on the
Speaker 1: ground and kind of took I wouldn't say the Rams
Speaker 1: hearts that way, but it really settled down a passing
Speaker 1: attack that wasn't as good last week and set up
Speaker 1: the passing attack for success. I was worried late, you know,
Speaker 1: with with the Rams driving that that Kirk Cousins was
Speaker 1: gonna do with Kirk Cousins thing and throw a pick
Speaker 1: or you know, whatever he might do. I have a
Speaker 1: buddy who calls him Kurt when he plays like that,
Speaker 1: and instead of Kirk, Yeah, that's the president of your president. Sound,
Speaker 1: but no, I was glad to see him follow through. Hey, Bruce,
Speaker 1: it's Nick Vegas, Vegas pobs bowling at least sweet go ahead.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing with the Rams, though, we kind of
Speaker 1: had to expect a game like this against the Redskins.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's early. We don't really know everything about every team,
Speaker 1: but we do know a little bit about the Colts,
Speaker 1: and the Rams weren't gonna look that good this week, right,
Speaker 1: and the Redskins knew they had to get this game Suddenly,
Speaker 1: the entire NFC East, if the Giants win Monday Night,
Speaker 1: is one and one, So that's a big win for them.
Speaker 1: It's not like anyone's panicking golf in this game. I
Speaker 1: would say, probably still look better than just about any
Speaker 1: game he looked last year. He looked professional. Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: had a very nice game, Chris Wesley and wondering if
Speaker 1: it's going to be a comeback year. A hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty six yards from scrimmage, that's the most he's had
Speaker 1: since two thousand fifties, and making plays, being a little
Speaker 1: more decisive, beating defenders to the edge. Even on his
Speaker 1: touchdown he he leapt over. He had a leap over
Speaker 1: a defender, um the former hurdles champion in college. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of the Todd girl we've been waiting to
Speaker 1: see for for what a year and a half now,
Speaker 1: so maybe that's a sign of good things. The Redskins
Speaker 1: lost Rob Kelly Fat Rob in this game. Two lane
Speaker 1: grad Ryan Grant, by the way, score that touched another
Speaker 1: two lane grad. They're just loaded with him on Washington.
Speaker 1: They lost their right tackle. They lost Jordan Read at
Speaker 1: one point he was in and out, so they got
Speaker 1: some injury concerns. Savor for the unsung heroes of two
Speaker 1: Lane podcast, Yes and Me and On King hosting, all right,
Speaker 1: let's move on, and then said Roberts car get a
Speaker 1: lob on right side and Crabtree comeback catch and he's
Speaker 1: in the US again. Touchdown blog. That was one of
Speaker 1: three Michael Crabtree touchdowns from David Carr's The Raiders took
Speaker 1: Cara Business at five to twenty home victory over the
Speaker 1: completely overmatched New York Jets, who we can go ahead
Speaker 1: and probably removed from the quote in the hunt list
Speaker 1: for an an f C playoff spot. Uh this game,
Speaker 1: you know what, This game was actually competitive for two
Speaker 1: quarters into the third quarter, even I'd say, uh it
Speaker 1: was um. The play that really changed the game was
Speaker 1: late in the second quarter that the Raiders got up
Speaker 1: fourteen zip the Jets scored ten points. Josh McCown and
Speaker 1: Jermaine Curse, who was looking like a nice little player
Speaker 1: for the Jets, by the way, two touchdowns. Uh it
Speaker 1: was fourteen ten. And then somebody named calif ray men
Speaker 1: muff to punt for the Jets, gave the Raiders the
Speaker 1: ball at right near the goal line. They punched in
Speaker 1: and for all intents and purposes, game over. I hate
Speaker 1: to point this out because but I don't feel as
Speaker 1: bad because I know you feel dead side on level
Speaker 1: about the Jets. That right before that punt, when the
Speaker 1: Jets got to stop and it looked like worst case
Speaker 1: they're going into halftime close, you said, yeah, this is
Speaker 1: all you can ask of the Jets. They're they're not
Speaker 1: embarrassing themselves. They're not embarrassing and then the next play
Speaker 1: that they embarrassing themselves. I also said, David carr was
Speaker 1: Derek carr Um, Yeah, that and that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It Actually, I thought they were going to get out
Speaker 1: of there with their dignity. But then what happens is is,
Speaker 1: you know, they just break down because there's such they're
Speaker 1: just two different, totally different leagues, the Jets and the Raiders,
Speaker 1: and and the thing I guess would be the most
Speaker 1: disappointing um from the Jets standpoint is their defense looks
Speaker 1: very bad, and especially the run defense continues to get
Speaker 1: carved up, their missing tackles. And when you have an
Speaker 1: offense that we know is limited, if the defense is
Speaker 1: gonna be a lower third unit in the league, that's
Speaker 1: when you start getting worried about whether you're gonna get
Speaker 1: a win. That's the magic potion, because this isn't a
Speaker 1: special the special teams for this team isn't isn't special either,
Speaker 1: So you take them out of the in the hunt category.
Speaker 1: That's usually where the Browns reside is out of the
Speaker 1: in the hunt category after a couple of wins and
Speaker 1: and then you bring up the whole you know, maybe
Speaker 1: not getting a win or being worried about getting a win.
Speaker 1: This might be one of those seasons for the Jets,
Speaker 1: but on the other side for the Ravens. For the Raiders,
Speaker 1: excuse me, I'm really excited somewhat about this trend of
Speaker 1: putting wide receivers in the backfield. We first it was
Speaker 1: Tie Montgomery, then it was Michael Campanero with the Ravens today,
Speaker 1: and then it was also Cordale Patterson with the Raiders
Speaker 1: three carries fifty seven yards, including a big jaunt right
Speaker 1: up the middle. They're using Patterson in interesting ways to
Speaker 1: the ways that the Fightings never knew how to unlock him,
Speaker 1: and and he is one of the best special teams
Speaker 1: players in the league. I remember writing down last week,
Speaker 1: just like, what a great signing he's gonna be for
Speaker 1: the small amount of money. And that's before they're using
Speaker 1: them like this. They just got players upon players. Jalen
Speaker 1: Richard was on only in the game for seventeen snaps
Speaker 1: and he somehow ended up with a hundred and nine
Speaker 1: yards on eight touches. I mean, he is an explosive player,
Speaker 1: and he's like the eighth guy you think of Derek Carr.
Speaker 1: It's very early, but I feel like Derek carrs, you know,
Speaker 1: starting to build the base of what could be a
Speaker 1: really special season. Like he's one of those guys that
Speaker 1: you would think is going to be in the mix
Speaker 1: for some hardware at the end of the year. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're UM team trev I think you'll be the
Speaker 1: first admit you were a little slow to get on
Speaker 1: the Derek car Absolutely, I was so wrong about Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: especially after his rookie season. He looks great, he looks
Speaker 1: he's looked tremendous both weeks now and UM. And one
Speaker 1: one last note from the Raiders side of things, Marshall
Speaker 1: Lynch again looked like Marshall Lynch. Numbers don't jump out
Speaker 1: at you. But he scored his first touchdown in a
Speaker 1: couple of years and in what was really a nice moment,
Speaker 1: especially remember that we're running out of time now for
Speaker 1: the Raiders in Oakland. UM. After they went ahead by
Speaker 1: three scores, I believe in the game was put away.
Speaker 1: They showed the camera CBS cameras caught Lynch just dancing
Speaker 1: like a maniac on the sideline, swinging his dreads around
Speaker 1: completely like that old thing dance like no one else
Speaker 1: is watching. There was like eighty thousand people watching him
Speaker 1: because they put him up on the Doumbo tron and
Speaker 1: the entire stadium is losing their ship and enjoying the
Speaker 1: moment and enjoying Lynch. And uh, I'm sure if you're
Speaker 1: you know, some Jets fans or some football fans, you
Speaker 1: might not like that display by Lynch. But that's exactly
Speaker 1: why the Raiders wanted him back to add that. Just yeah,
Speaker 1: the final piece to their offense. But this guy, that's
Speaker 1: almost like a goodwill ambassador to Oakland. Uh, the marriage
Speaker 1: cannot be going better. Um two weeks in, So the
Speaker 1: Raiders moved to two and oh, uh, let's move on
Speaker 1: now quick getting drop korem Hun at the forty yard
Speaker 1: line at five touched on sidays the rookie to Ram
Speaker 1: Hunt blast Chiefs rookie cream Hunt scored twice, including that
Speaker 1: sixty one yard touched on you just heard and uh
Speaker 1: travel Travis Kelsey took a shovel pass uh fifteen yards
Speaker 1: for a go ahead touched on. The Chiefs held on
Speaker 1: to beat the Philadelphia Eagles. Uh. The Eagles were covered
Speaker 1: an outside kick late and did have a hell Mary,
Speaker 1: but it did not work out. So Greg, the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: You know, you can make the argument that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are the most impressive too. And oh team in football
Speaker 1: right now. Two good wins a game, a strange game,
Speaker 1: entertaining six three a halftime didn't seem entertaining then and
Speaker 1: then the floodgates kind of opened offensively. But what really
Speaker 1: stands out is the Chiefs have different ways they can
Speaker 1: beat you. They showed that against the Patriots and to
Speaker 1: go toe to toe with the Eagles front defensive line,
Speaker 1: which played very well in this game, but to actually
Speaker 1: make a bigger impact even then the Eagles defensive line.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some stats, Dan, I like stats.
Speaker 1: Six sacks, ten tackle is for loss. You just don't
Speaker 1: see that too often, and another ten quarterback hits on
Speaker 1: top of that. They were in Carson Wentz is grill.
Speaker 1: So it's not just Justin Houston who I think has
Speaker 1: come out of the gate on fire. It was you know,
Speaker 1: Chris Jones and uh Benny Logan who came over and
Speaker 1: DeFord and just they're just coming at you and waves it.
Speaker 1: And those guys up front really kept this game close
Speaker 1: and ended up making a difference. We'll think about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an offense that is multilayered with
Speaker 1: a lot of weapons, and they're being used in innovative
Speaker 1: fun ways. Uh So that side of the ball is
Speaker 1: looking good and and and the defense is hitting its
Speaker 1: stride immediately. I mean, it has the makings of potentially
Speaker 1: special season for the Chiefs, who a lot of people
Speaker 1: forget won the division last year, and they look just
Speaker 1: as good if not better. I also really like that
Speaker 1: they scored on a shovel pass to Travis I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. The NFL is a strange game, and
Speaker 1: it turned on a few little plays like Alex Smith
Speaker 1: just evading you know, he's very good at evading the
Speaker 1: rush in the get to set up that touchdown or
Speaker 1: you know, you could have been taken down it would
Speaker 1: have been a field goal. Who knows then. And also
Speaker 1: you know, the game turning interception came on what Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz attempted to be a throwaway, which just took a
Speaker 1: flukey bounce and they turn it over and score on
Speaker 1: a short field. So it was it was a very
Speaker 1: tight game. I don't really feel any differently about the
Speaker 1: Eagles after watching this one. I like the Eagles, like
Speaker 1: both these I'll give you something to be a little
Speaker 1: bit afraid of. And it looks like the Patriots got
Speaker 1: things together here. But the Chiefs could be barreling towards
Speaker 1: thirteen and three something in that neighborhood and you got
Speaker 1: that head to head matchup that means you gotta finish
Speaker 1: a game ahead of the Chiefs. If they have that
Speaker 1: type of season, there's something I would be wary if
Speaker 1: I was the Chiefs of the four games left against
Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Broncos. This division is outstanding and
Speaker 1: they got to play the NFC stat a division that
Speaker 1: those games aren't easy. So you say, I think the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are great, but you're you're gonna have to be
Speaker 1: an unbelievable team to win games. Whether it's the Raiders
Speaker 1: or the Chiefs or the bronk they all gotta play
Speaker 1: each other. They can't all wint. I think the Chiefs
Speaker 1: might be the one that always Okay, okay, that's fair.
Speaker 1: There's they've They've done nothing to prove you wrong, that's
Speaker 1: for sure. All right, let's roll. Look look at it
Speaker 1: looks like it's a Is it a live Bowl? If
Speaker 1: it is? Just gonna be a touchdown? And that's gonna
Speaker 1: be true fun. The Atlanta Falcons must really be good
Speaker 1: at hydrating, because Greg, there ain't no Super Bowl hangover here? Wow,
Speaker 1: how long did you work on that? Many? Many hours?
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan threw a touchdown past the mount of Freeman,
Speaker 1: ran for two more, and the Atlanta Falcons toyed with
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. I'm gonna say it a thirty
Speaker 1: four to twenty three win and it wasn't that close, folks. Uh,
Speaker 1: in the first game at Atlanta's new home facility, they're
Speaker 1: very impressive. But don't take it from me. You've got
Speaker 1: three and a half hours of Chris collins Worth telling
Speaker 1: you so, Nick shook um. This is a game that
Speaker 1: you thought maybe it would be a shootout, but just
Speaker 1: like the NFC Championship game, what you hoped what was
Speaker 1: gonna be a close game was pretty much a one
Speaker 1: sided affair. And then you look at the stats. Whoa
Speaker 1: thank you card? This car under one? Know, like, how
Speaker 1: well built Nick is? You? You guys gotta be careful.
Speaker 1: She's jumping into my points like she jumps in my dreams. Hello,
Speaker 1: now he's now, he's way off here. We got go
Speaker 1: Rogers thirty three for fifty three and forty three yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and it wasn't even close. Of a lot
Speaker 1: of garbage yardage in the last quarter and a half. Well,
Speaker 1: they're they're missing their top two tackles. And then just
Speaker 1: to think about the players that left throughout the game.
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson leaves early with the quad injury. Mike Daniels
Speaker 1: leaves with an injury, doesn't return Randall Cobb leaves late.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about not just starters for the Packers,
Speaker 1: You're talking about the most important players on the team
Speaker 1: practically other than Aaron Rodgers. So that's that's a lot
Speaker 1: going against you on the first night in in another
Speaker 1: team's building. I have to say, because I was you know,
Speaker 1: history told us, or tells us how much teams can
Speaker 1: struggle coming off the Super Bowl. Uh And and I
Speaker 1: really did think the Falcons would be in a tough
Speaker 1: spot and get off to a slow start. And whether
Speaker 1: you connect those two things. A lot of people say
Speaker 1: that's silly, blah blah blah. But they look good. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe not as explosive as they were last season in
Speaker 1: these first two games, but this to me was a
Speaker 1: really good sign that the Falcons have put the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in the rear view. This is a new season.
Speaker 1: And if you're a Packers fan, you're there's party you worried. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, are we gonna have to get in a
Speaker 1: situation where we're gonna have to go on a run.
Speaker 1: Is there's gonna be another slow start and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you're gonna be four and six down the road.
Speaker 1: Something like that. I want to get two worked up.
Speaker 1: This was a tough, tough assignment on the road on
Speaker 1: Sunday night in the New Building. You play the two
Speaker 1: biggest NFC powers going into the season, one at home,
Speaker 1: one on the road. You split him, You'll sign off
Speaker 1: for a split there. I don't think they get stuck
Speaker 1: in the whoa you got double dropped by this Sunday night.
Speaker 1: They were like, what do we need Carrie, Let's put
Speaker 1: more Sunday nights in that song. I do have one
Speaker 1: follow up question, Nick, you said that Carrie Underwood jumps
Speaker 1: in your dreams. Tell us more about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know she's she's a very beautiful woman who's very talented. Alright,
Speaker 1: and I keep this straight, and you know, continue on, Nick.
Speaker 1: We got him shook, knocked off his game. He shook.
Speaker 1: Here's here's my point. I don't think we give the
Speaker 1: enough credit to the Falcons defense. Uh pass rush that's
Speaker 1: led by Vic Charlie Casher likes to call him Victor Beasley,
Speaker 1: who had one sack tonight, but a lot of pressures.
Speaker 1: He was in on a lot of hits on Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: which forced some turnovers and overall the Falcons playing some
Speaker 1: very opportunistic defense which helps them come away with a
Speaker 1: big win like that. I think they're deeper on defense
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, Dion Jones, Devondre Campbell, you
Speaker 1: got Adrian Claiborne back, had a big hit, looked like
Speaker 1: he wanted to take Aaron Hudgers head off late in
Speaker 1: the game. And then their offense maybe it hasn't been
Speaker 1: quite as explosive, but the running game really struggled in
Speaker 1: week one and was totally back to normal with Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman and Deon Devonte Freeman looking great and very You
Speaker 1: know what really annoys me is an overused football cliche
Speaker 1: is a quarterback was efficient. That usually means they really
Speaker 1: didn't play that well, but they won the game. But
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan was efficient tonight passes two and fifty yards,
Speaker 1: spread it around a lot of chunk players, but didn't
Speaker 1: need to throw it. That's efficient. That's what you're looking for.
Speaker 1: And so they are there two and oh and they
Speaker 1: go to Detroit next week. This team, I thought a
Speaker 1: good point was made on the Sunday Night tell cast
Speaker 1: that uh, you know, they were playing on the on
Speaker 1: the real surface in Chicago. This is a different team
Speaker 1: on turf. They get to go on turf on the
Speaker 1: road at Ford Field next week. I expect him to
Speaker 1: score points. Then they come home and face the Bills,
Speaker 1: that they get a bye week, then they get the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and then they go to New England to face the
Speaker 1: Patriots and a Super Bowl rematch which is October, which
Speaker 1: is uh five weeks away. So I think the Falcons
Speaker 1: are in good position to to go into that game
Speaker 1: feeling really good about themselves. And this was I would say,
Speaker 1: a very encouraging victory to beat an NFC superpower with ease. So,
Speaker 1: you know, bring it all around this NFC South now
Speaker 1: to start the season, the Panthers, the Bucks, and the Falcons,
Speaker 1: none of them have lost the game. And it reminds
Speaker 1: me of the a f C West, where none of
Speaker 1: those teams have lost. We went into the season saying,
Speaker 1: these are the two best divisions in football. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to win a lot of games to win these divisions.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be it's gonna be part of
Speaker 1: the story of this NFL season, these two divisions being
Speaker 1: really the powers of their conferences. Alright, So that's it
Speaker 1: for the week. To recap one more game a Monday
Speaker 1: night affair between humor Greg, the Detroit Lions and then
Speaker 1: New York Giants. And it's rare double lock. It's on
Speaker 1: lock off baby, lock on lock crime, and the lines
Speaker 1: are gonna win it. Yeah, but the crime will be
Speaker 1: against me, but the d d A will drop the
Speaker 1: charges because they'll say, understandable what you did to Greg.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it. Okay, One quick program
Speaker 1: note and this is important. Yes it's been long teased,
Speaker 1: but beginning this Tuesday, it is time for the subreddit
Speaker 1: super contest. If uh you are on the subreddit around
Speaker 1: the around the NFL subreddit where almost seven thousand strong,
Speaker 1: now Erica Tamposey loose cannon behind the glass on Sunday
Speaker 1: on Monday morning, is going to post a thread on
Speaker 1: the subreddit. Um, what what are you gonna be writing
Speaker 1: on that thread? Tell me? Tell me more tempose. I'm
Speaker 1: not really sure. I'm just gonna I'm gonna make the
Speaker 1: title you know you around the NFL subreddit, and then
Speaker 1: people are gonna answer and that I wouldn't say make
Speaker 1: the title on the on the subreddit around the NFL subreddit,
Speaker 1: I would say what you should do? Is say, uh,
Speaker 1: Subreddit super Contest Week one. That should be the title,
Speaker 1: and then you could write in the body of your
Speaker 1: of your thread, I'll take you through this. Uh. If
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm not a writer, come on, well we
Speaker 1: talked about this before the show. In the body of
Speaker 1: the post, right, If you're interested in being a contestant
Speaker 1: for week one of the super contest, um reply to
Speaker 1: this thread. Everyone that replies is in the running for
Speaker 1: week one. The group the around the NFL group. We
Speaker 1: will pick from that group at random three names and uh,
Speaker 1: those three people, at least the first person has a
Speaker 1: chance to win. The trivia contest on Tuesday will go
Speaker 1: as long as it takes to find a winner. Uh.
Speaker 1: So be on the lookout on the subreddit. And guess what,
Speaker 1: you can't join. Unless you join the subreddit, you can't
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Speaker 1: Coast time, I'd say around ten am, look for an
Speaker 1: Erica tamp posty jam on their It's gonna be fun,
Speaker 1: all right, get ready. Greg stan Hands is signing off
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