WEBVTT - Draft Show: LIVE From Senior Bowl - Day 1 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:24.320 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Showboys on 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.480 your war room for insider news and draft analysis from 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.800 deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rand. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:35.680 The Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand Joe and now your 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:41.560 hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:46.840 the Draft show is a road show, I'll say, and 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.480 we're mobile. We are in mobile. We are mobile, immobile. 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.680 I'm Brian brought us along with Dane Burglar, CBS Sports 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:59.400 in Dallas Cowboys dot Com. David Hellman of Dallas Cowboys 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.160 dot Com. Hi, Brian. We're a long way from the 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.440 s WBC Mortgage studios here, yes, but we're making it 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:10.000 work because the Draft Show we always talk about we're 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:15.720 here to investigate and to He needed himself on No. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.600 I just wanted to see if you guys were listening. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.280 I want to make sure of that. But yeah, we're 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:25.240 here immobilemobile Alabama and uh had a couple of practices today. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.800 We'll get right into this. Had a way in this morning, 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:34.679 had a had a practice, uh morning really an afternoon 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.720 practice with the South team and then the North team 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:44.720 had their practice with Jason Garrett and that crew this afternoon. Uh, well, 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.000 you know I want to get into that myself. I will. 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:49.520 We are not going to take any calls today. We'll 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.480 be able to take some Twitter questions. Dave Hellman will 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:54.240 do that. We'll do it. We'll try and do some 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:56.400 I don't know what the time, the way it is. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:57.720 I don't know if we can do Twitter on the twenty, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.400 but we'll call it that. We'll just spring whatever we want, yeah, 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.800 Ken Garrison. Ken Garrison executive producers telling us we can 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:06.040 do whatever we want, so we will. But yeah, we'll 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.320 take you with questions. We don't have any ability to 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.640 take any phone calls right now, but if fire us up, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:12.800 line us up with some tot of questions, we'll do 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:14.480 our very best. Make sure you're doing it at the 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.080 draft show. In that way, we can can kind of 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.600 rally them all together and then answer them when we 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:23.840 see fit. Maybe as we go along day we'll just 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:29.560 pop some in and depend on the conversation. Anything this morning, guys, 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.520 come out of the way in for you any You know, 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.040 we've been watching a lot of tape, which is my 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:38.800 favorite thing to do, is David Hellman. Brian loves to 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.320 watch tape, got o Griden, the tape, got to grind 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.720 the tape. So yeah, but is there anything though from 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.799 guys you've seen that You've been watching the tape and 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.919 you're like, man, this guy is bigger, he's smaller. Well, 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.760 I didn't expect that, you know that type. And and Dane, 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.120 you've been to an All Star game. I mean you 0:02:57.120 --> 0:02:59.040 did some stuff. I mean not all these guys were there, 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.680 of course, but uh, any any thoughts of any guys 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.840 that it was kind of Hey, this guy is a 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:06.400 little bit bigger than I thought. He's a little bit 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.560 smaller than I thought. Well, for a lot of these guys, 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.200 it's checking the boxes. You know, look at Carson Wentz. 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.000 You know, we knew he was gonna come in around 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.519 six five or sixty six, and he did. But hand 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.079 sized checks at ten rushes, and that's you're looking at. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.160 You know, bigger hands doesn't necessarily mean a better quarterback, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.600 but it's more of a threshold. You know, for quarterbacks 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.680 you want at least nine and a quarter nine and 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:31.919 a half, which is not good news for Brandon Allen, 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:34.359 who was at eight and a half in chants right, 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.520 and now it's not impossible for these, you know, players 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.640 with smaller hands not to have find NFL success. It's 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.520 just you look around the NFL. Not many quarterbacks with 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:46.160 small hands doing much so but for the most part, 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:49.440 nothing really surprising. Um, you know, I think a lot 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:51.520 of these guys, like I said, it's more checking boxes, 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:54.640 verifying what we see on tape, verifying you know what 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.480 we thought would be. Uh, you know, their heights, weights, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:02.440 arm length. L Raven Clark the wingspan, I mean sure, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:09.240 I mean what was it. It was seventy six eighty 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.320 five almost eighty six inches wingspan. I mean it's a 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.840 tech offensive tackle. Right. He puts his hands out, he 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:18.320 starts flapping. He might fly away. That's ridiculous. So h 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:22.400 L Raven Clark really impressed during the way ends Miles 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.440 Killerbrew the safety. He looks like he belongs in the 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.160 front of a magazine. Yes, Fitness grew wrong about him. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:30.440 By the way. I'll go, I'll go at early ad 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.960 knitting on that we sat down and watched. We get 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.480 we'll get into that. And and today when you watched 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.320 him in the North practice. I even wrote about this. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.160 It's gonna go up on Dallas Cowboys dot Com a 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:40.920 little bit later. On which I encourage you to read, 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.719 which I encourage you to read. I wrote about Miles Kilbrey. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:45.240 I need to go back and watch more tape of 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.280 him because there were some plays that he was made. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.240 But we'll get to that. We'll get to Miles kilbog 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:52.040 in some guys. David, is there anybody though that you know? 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.239 I know you were, you know, in a scrambled mode 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.159 trying to grab me and we got coaches. Day was 0:04:57.320 --> 0:04:59.640 today was a day? Yeah, it was good. I mean 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.600 from eight o'clock in the morning until two hours from now, 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.880 it's kind of NonStop. But I'll throw one out at 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.839 you just really maybe my main impression from the day, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.159 I was really bummed. Um obviously hurt himself. It's not 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.360 his fault, but Carl Joseph had to pull out of 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:22.640 the game. His teammate kJ Dillon, that dude can hit man. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:27.359 We're talking shorts and pad you know, not even lighting 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:31.560 dudes up. Yeah, he put it was our boy Tyler Irvin, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.040 which granted, I mean he's the Lance dunbar two point zero, 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.920 so it's not like he's putting the wood on Derrick Henry. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.880 But I'll tell you those blew that guy up, you know, 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.279 non padded practice. Yeah. I'll tell you something about Tyler 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.200 Urban though that I really really like is I thought 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:51.640 he's bigger in person, like five oh ninety seven ninety 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.760 five pounds, I think if I got that right around 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:59.400 one nine yeou Yeah, he looked bigger in person than 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:01.800 he did on tape when you watched San Jose play. 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:03.560 And I thought that he was one of those guys 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.839 that when you when you watched him play today. I 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.000 thought that that Lenahan, those guys came up with some 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:13.520 stuff for him to do that was actually pretty good. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.440 You know, another thing and back to the Way and 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.680 another thing that really stood out. And you know, I 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.039 watched most of the Way in with with Nick Eatman 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.400 and Rob Phillips our other DC dot com writers, and nah, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.000 when he came up on stage. You know, he's not 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.039 a he's not a power five VCS guy. You don't. 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:30.680 You don't hear a whole lot when you think of 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:35.080 Louisiana Tech. Actually all three of them. Uh, Victor Butler, 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.960 Jeff Driscoll, Ryan but Arm, Sorry you right, Victor Butler. 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.280 He plays him, He played and he played with the 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.080 cow He played with the cowboys, a few years ago, uh, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.640 Vernon Butler, Jeff Driscoll and but Kenneth Dixon really yeah, 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.680 he's a big guy. He I mean, you know, we'll 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.000 put together. You do not think of a big workhorse 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:54.159 running back when you think Louisiana attack. But he definitely 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.200 passed only five ten but two hundred and fifteen pounds. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:58.039 He had smaller hands, which I was surprised to see 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.600 because he is such a reliable as catch out of 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.720 the backfield. But he overcomes that the hand size. But 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.400 you're right about the Louisiana tech guys, and I think 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:09.240 that carried over into practice. Especially Butler. He really impressed me. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.920 He he looks a little bit like just his facial 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.920 features but like he reminded me of DeMarcus Ware and 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.840 I know that. Yeah, but like, and he's not played 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:19.520 in the same position or anything like that, but he's 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.160 a big, scary looking long arms to Yeah. We talk 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.640 to me real quick about it. And And you very early 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.720 in practice you were talking about Braxton Miller and the 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.640 and the weight that we had for Braxton Miller was 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:34.120 a two fifteen. He comes in at two o four 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.560 and he's something to try and maybe you know he's 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.200 already a quick player both, but something maybe help him 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.120 a little more. Yeah, And you could see that throughout 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.360 this season. I thought he was really trying to shed 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.480 some of that weight. To me, the Ohio Steak guys 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.320 really stood out. Yeah, I mean the Washington kid was 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.760 really Dolphins Washington to tackle. Nick Vannette the tight end, Yeah, 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.280 you were talking about him, he might, he might be 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.800 the top senior tight end in this class. He was underutilized. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:08:00.880 But you know, Braxton Miller, we talked about being underutilized 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.200 in the Ohio State offense. Nick Vanette the same thing. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.400 I had nineteen catches last year. But back to Braxton, 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:10.320 it just there's so many athletes out there, but then 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.120 there's Braxton Miller. I mean, he's a step above these guys. 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.520 And that's no you know, throwing shade at those other guys. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.000 It's just Braxton Miller's just so elite as an athlete. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.680 The body control, his short area, quickness, the long speed, 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.520 it's all there. And obviously he's still raw and you 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:27.480 could see that in his routes. He needs to learn 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.800 a better nuance how to use his hands. But a 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.840 player that moves like he does, and he caught everything, 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:35.880 And I think it's just he's a natural athlete. The 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.839 quick reflects, it's it's all there and on display. So 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.240 we'll have to see how he improves throughout the week. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.160 But he set the bar pretty high in nine first practice. Yeah, 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:49.040 I really did. I liked Derek Dooley, the Cowboys receivers coach, 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.600 does a really nice job with his drills and you 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.760 and you get something out of movement, and you get 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.439 something out of the ability is the break that drive 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.880 all those things extend for the football, you know. I 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.160 think that he put those North those northern receivers, North 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.720 receivers through a lot that where you can get something. 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:09.800 If you're a scout that was on the other side 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.200 of the fence, right, you could get something like you 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.080 were just talking about. And we see the tape with 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.199 Braxton Miller, but now you're watching him in and out 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:20.559 of cuts, turned the bound all those things the great 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.199 athletes are able to do. Yeah, you want to see 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.040 that short area quickness because you want to see how 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.959 they are at the top of routes. You know how 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.240 they do. And another thing we saw is as a 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.480 punt returner, he was fielding some punts. Yes, yeah, not 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.680 something we didn't see it Ohio State. No. Obviously we 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:37.760 saw him on transition to wide receiver a hybrid h 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.600 back position his past year, but he didn't play special teams, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.760 so seeing him field punts was good, you know, to 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:49.440 expand on that versatility with Braxton getting into we've talked 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.360 about we've just kind of jumped into, you know, just 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:54.240 jumped right in and talked about, but let's talk about 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:59.520 really what we thought from Carson Wentz today. You know, 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.880 and and and you know again North quarterback. Uh, he's 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.880 in a he's in a group with some other quarterbacks 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:12.320 that quite frankly, I was not overly impressing Hogan was 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:16.040 in that mix. And then also Kessler. Yeah, I think 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.240 that was a little bit of a struggle for those 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:22.679 guys today. But talk about you know, initially saw some 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.840 tweets from you that it was very positive about what 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:31.160 you saw, uh, with mechanics and things like that, just 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.000 kind of go into what you thought with his day. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.560 It wasn't a perfect day, but I thought that was 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:39.040 much more good than bad. Um. You know, you saw timing. 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.439 You know, obviously this is a little uptick and competition 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.120 for him going coming from the FCS level. But I 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.240 don't think he had any problem with the timing, you know, 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:51.040 in a setup and his delivery. The velocity's outstanding. His 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.720 placement was generally good. Uh. He had a few one hoppers, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.800 a few that you know, I know he wanted back, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:58.600 but for the most part, I mean it was it 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.640 was on full display all the tools that he has. 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.520 And you know it's easy to see why. You know, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.080 it's you know, the Cowboys are coaching this team. They're 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.200 looking at these quarterbacks like their kids. You have to 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.840 love them equally, but they were favoring yea. Yeah, they're 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.400 trying to figure out. They're trying to figure out quickly. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.480 How dave your your thoughts on him, I know you 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.880 were watching him as well. The big deal with him 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.079 is and you know, not that lies not the right word, 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.480 but you hear about these guys and colleges pump their 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:29.959 guys up. I mean that's why they do the way 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.000 in so you can get the numbers right and everything. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:34.640 You know, guy a six three guys actually six one 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.480 and a five eleven guys actually you know, five ten 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.880 or whatever. So I was impressed it. I mean, he 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:41.920 met the measurables that they put up there for him. 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.000 I mean, he fits the bill and the arm strength too. 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:46.920 I mean again, you can see all this stuff on tape, 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.680 but you're down on the field looking at this stuff. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.960 And he I mean, he had a couple of uh 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.680 you know, running in with the full team, and we've 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.840 talked before about how he can hit those throws on 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.600 the move, on the move right, and he was doing 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.760 that out there and you know, not what's the word, 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.640 not anything that I took me by surprise, But I 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.400 think it counts for something when you see that with 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.680 your own eyes. One thing that you know as a 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.360 young scout coming up, that I was taught by NFL 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.600 scouts was when you evaluate quarterbacks, you have to see 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.360 them in person. They're just something different. When the ball 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.840 comes off his hand, uh, you know, just the way 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.920 he acclimates himself in the setting. It just is just 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.400 a little different for quarterbacks. And so you know, I 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.160 had a chance to see him in the FCS title game. 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.719 Is the same thing here. The ball definitely pops off 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.400 his hand. Let me ask you this, did he try 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.000 and do a little too much today? Did? I mean? 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.960 And I this is old man scouts sitting in the 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.120 you know, here's young Scouts an old man Scouts sitting 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.960 in the press box thinking, you know, I'm actually sitting 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.640 with Ozzie Newsom there. I'm not trying to but I did. 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.120 But that's my guy. Ozzie and I sit together and 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.480 we do it every year and it's it's great. It's 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.079 a great experience for me name dropping more and more 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.679 as yeah, gole, this is my guy. Is lsu got 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:01.600 you hate Alabama guys? That I said, would mister Hellman 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:06.319 for a little bit? Yeah, fact, like the conversation. The 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.200 conversation that we had was maybe he tried to do 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.120 a little too much today, maybe a little too hyped up, 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.520 you know, maybe tried to make a couple of throws, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.040 probably shouldn't have made, talked about the one hop. Maybe 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.160 try a little too hard, maybe, you know, just a 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:23.920 little bit over anxious in how he practiced today. I 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:25.679 kind of got the sense that he was like trying 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.839 to be the dude, you know, like he was trying 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.800 to embrace the spotlight that's on him, which I kind 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.120 of I appreciate that. I think that's the right way 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.559 to play it, just and like not in a bad way, 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.280 but he was it seemed like he was being the 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.160 vocal guy he was. I mean, he was the center 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.160 point of all the quarterbacks as far as I'm concerned, 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.079 and I felt like he kind of carried himself that way. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.040 But I don't think that's a bad thing. No, No, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.360 and especially when you know Cody Kessler's checking down every place. 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:54.040 But we've seen Cody Kessler. We've seen that. I believe 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.360 it was a Stanford game. They've got two minutes left, 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.800 need ten points or at four play and he checking 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.880 in and check him and he runs. Yeah, and he 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.200 runs the clock completely out before the completion percentage can 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:08.080 be a little deceiving something, right. I just felt like 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.800 though that did he maybe tried, maybe was a little 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.160 too hyped up today maybe, So I think that's fair, 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:17.679 and I have to take that over like just the 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.440 just the vanilla, the vanilla guy that's not really doing 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.280 over much. It's an exhibition game. Go compete, that's what 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:27.160 you know. Some quarterbacks Connor Cook didn't even want to 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.720 compete here. Yeah, and here did you say Connor Cook 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.800 didn't want to compete? Right, didn't want to compete here. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.640 But here's Carson Wentz coming in wanting to compete, and 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.640 he helped himself. There's no question about it. We were 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:41.800 over on the uh you know, on the south side. 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:46.560 They were over in fair Hope and had an opportunity, 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.000 and I have to admit it was like an hour 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.600 and twenty minutes. I felt like they stretched forever and 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:55.800 then finally you got to see some some work over there. 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:59.680 Did uh? Did let's get some of their quarterbacks? U 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:07.040 pri set Alan, any Prescott, anybody, you know, anybody Dane 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:10.000 light you up over there? Not really, you know, looking 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.600 at the quarterbacks, I don't think we really got a 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.960 chance to see them. Uh, you know, show what they have. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.960 You know, I think all all four looked solid. You know, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.280 they looked looked okay. But for the most part, and honestly, 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:25.080 at the south practice, I was focusing on the offensive 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.840 line and the defensive line. Yeah, and you know, watching 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.680 Noah Spence about to you know, kill somebody out there. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.240 He was talking about hyped up. Yeah, Noah Spence was 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.960 hyped up. He was whether it was John Thas, Yeah, 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.240 theis is now now. I wrote this earlier today that 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:43.880 in Guys to Watch, I was hoping that somebody would 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:48.080 step up and play hard against the against uh Spence 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.680 Spence and because he he there's I didn't feel like 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:55.800 there was a tackle on either side either that could 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.280 block him one on one. Agree, and thus in there 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.200 and it's like they're I'm not gonna call it th drill, 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.600 kind of a fit drill where they come off, they 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:07.000 fit and they try, you know, we'll see who's the 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.960 strongest and who. It was a couple of times after 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.520 the snap where or after the play where thas It 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:14.920 had enough of him, you know, I blocked, you pushed him, 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.680 you know, and then okay, now we got sep you 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.640 separate him, And it just kind of came a common 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:24.360 theme throughout the day. I haven't seen Thea's play at Georgia. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.160 Can you talk about I mean, the makeup of Yeah, 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.520 he's he's a competitor and there's no question about it. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.720 But then they moved Spence to the other side, rolling 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.040 up against Vidal, Alexander the other guys, and it was 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:36.920 more than the same over there. Yeah, I mean it, 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.960 Spence was just uh, he looked like a volcano ready 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.480 to erupt. I mean, he was. And that's not a 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.480 bad thing. We talked about, you know, Carson Wentz going 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.320 out and competing. It was Spence. I mean, he was 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.960 wound up so tight that you know he was picking 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.600 fights with everyone. But that's all right. You want a competitor, 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.720 you want a guy that even it's the first practice, 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.160 you know, it's I love to see when guys are 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.160 told to kind of tone it down a little. Yeah. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.320 It's like the Jaxonville coaches were like, okay, and then 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.359 they let him keep going and okay, and then they 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.720 break it up a little bit. Hey, calm down, but yeah, 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:09.399 calm down, but okay, let's see you do it again. Exactly. 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.240 I'm gonna talk about another guy over that North seen 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.240 the South practice got my attention. It's it was Reggie Raglan. 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.720 Pay you're gonna say that, yeah? And and Reggie Raglan 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:20.879 though playing as an outside linebacker yeah, and which I 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:23.520 think his choice too, Yeah, which I think was a smart, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.360 smart play on his part. And I'll tell you why. 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.040 Because Reggie Raglan he was unblockable. Is that is that 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.840 a word? Did I just make up a word? Football? 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:35.239 Because if you try and type it, you laugh at 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.320 me right time When when I type unblockable, you go, 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.639 what are you doing? Microsoft? Word doesn't think measurable as 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.760 a word. Yeah, it doesn't need Okay, well, let me 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.199 tell you this. He was unblockable when they did the 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:50.040 one on one stuff with the running backs and having 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.199 to deal with with Reggie Raglan rushing. He it was 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.680 not the same Okay, we're gonna run over your type move. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.280 He had pass rushings and you could tell you could tell, oh, 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.600 with with what they do with him at Alabama putting 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:05.560 his hand on the ground and I the questions I 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.520 had last week on the Draft show was, Hey, I 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.160 need to see Reggie Raggling stand up and cover somebody cover. 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.800 That's his weak spot. Yeah, because you never see him. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.560 But it's more improven than weakness. You know, we don't. 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.480 We just don't know how well he could. Yeah, it's 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.040 a bad phrasing. Well he he was. They didn't block him, 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.880 so you guy, Yeah, well no, he's my guy because 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.480 I'm just sitting there going, you know, and he looks 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:32.119 and he just looks the part you talk about, you know, loody, 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.680 the lower body sickness, there's you just you watch him. 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.119 His uniform is always dirty. You know, he's always in 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.879 the middle of things. It's somebody is gonna get I 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:44.120 think a great football player. I don't think it's gonna 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:46.359 be a Dallas cowboy. May maybe I'm wrong, maybe they 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.520 drag back whatever I mean, but yeah, but it is. 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.719 But but I'll tell you what though, if you just 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:56.880 want to talk about football players, Reggie Raggling is that guy, 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.040 and I think he did himself. Why not play on 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.600 the outside there? It's maybe some three four team. I 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.600 don't know if he has the length. I don't know 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.320 if he has the length to be a three to 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.520 four outside linebacker. Well, it's funny, and I know he 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:11.440 plays Mike in a four to three in Dallas, right, 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:14.480 I mean, I'm well, I'm very familiar with Rolando mclin. Right. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:16.160 I got to talk to Reggie a little bit after 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.639 the way in today and like he doesn't I mean not, 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.000 he's an impressive athlete, but like it's not the same 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.399 as Rolando mclin Like you're talking about two different guys. Like, 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.520 I mean, what what's he at Dane? Is he like 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:29.080 six one six two? Reggie Ragland wighed in at six 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.960 one two y two fifty nine. Rolando mcclain' is like 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.560 six six, Like he's a gigantic users. Yeah, it's it, 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:38.719 but it's impressive. I mean, so you're not talking you're 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.560 probably not talking about the same caliber of athlete, but 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.680 he's every bit as productive, which is impressive on his part. 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:50.359 He thoughts about Sean Oakman and what anyway, and I 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.960 was very big, yeah, like very sixty seven, two sixty seven, 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.720 leaner than I thought. I mean, because he weighed in 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:00.119 at six seven and a half but only two win 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.040 or sixty nine pounds. Yeah, I have a very lean 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:06.199 muscled um. And during crowd share it for him, but 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.920 then he does some things in practice where it kind 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.000