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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys Selection by Rand Joe and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Draft show is a road show, I'll say, and

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Speaker 1: dot Com. Hi, Brian. We're a long way from the

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Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage studios here, yes, but we're making it

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Speaker 1: here immobilemobile Alabama and uh had a couple of practices today.

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Speaker 1: watch tape, got o Griden, the tape, got to grind

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Speaker 1: the tape. So yeah, but is there anything though from

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Speaker 1: guys you've seen that You've been watching the tape and

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect that, you know that type. And and Dane,

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Speaker 1: smaller than I thought. Well, for a lot of these guys,

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Speaker 1: it's checking the boxes. You know, look at Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: You know, bigger hands doesn't necessarily mean a better quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but it's more of a threshold. You know, for quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and now it's not impossible for these, you know, players

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Speaker 1: I was in the back seat. I'm driving this daisy,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of those situations you're not driving old

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Speaker 1: man scout. But yeah, but anything Stan, I mean, I

425
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Speaker 1: know people were talking about it like he was throwing

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Speaker 1: people around and stuff like that. Did you get that

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Speaker 1: filling it along. He's strange because you look at him

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Speaker 1: and he looks like a guard, just as I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a guard, right. Yeah, And but there are

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Speaker 1: some stamps and he has short of arms. I mean,

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Speaker 1: well thirty two and I think three quarters, so I

432
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Speaker 1: mean ideally you want thirty three. Uh so you know

433
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Speaker 1: you were kind of thinking guard. But he held his

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Speaker 1: own for the most part, and once he got his

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Speaker 1: hands on you, I mean he showed power. Uh you know,

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Speaker 1: he showed the ability to win at the point of attack.

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Speaker 1: And so for drain Goo, I thought he did a

438
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Speaker 1: nice job. He's playing primarily at right tackle today. Yeah,

439
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Speaker 1: that's what I thought. It was a guard. Yeah, no,

440
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Speaker 1: I diagree. You're an LSU guy. I am as myself.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Jalen Mills was playing a little bit

442
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Speaker 1: of corner Desoto's own instead of playing some safety. I

443
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Speaker 1: think that's a good spot for him. He doesn't he's

444
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Speaker 1: kind of a selective tackler. Yeah, I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: And but you know when you watch him play when

446
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Speaker 1: he was working with Cash, you could really tell this

447
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Speaker 1: on the drills when they would take him, they would

448
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Speaker 1: peddle him and they would spin him. One was clearly

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Speaker 1: finishing faster than the other one. And that's gonna be Cashes.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's gonna be his We're talking about Cash,

451
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Cash from Duke and you could watch him and

452
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Speaker 1: he's gonna make every single tackle play down and be

453
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Speaker 1: that guy. He's not a back player. But Mills and

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Speaker 1: your thoughts about him from LSU. I think that maybe

455
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Speaker 1: corner might be a spot for him. I could see that,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, I feel like that's a tough transition

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Speaker 1: if you haven't played it. But I like his athleticism

458
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Speaker 1: more than I like his physicality. That's fair point right there.

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Speaker 1: That's just my again, that's my impression from watching LSU football,

460
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Speaker 1: not scouting the guy. He looks. It looks like a

461
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Speaker 1: corner ray six foot one ninety four. Yea long. He's long.

462
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Speaker 1: But he watched him at LSU play some out of

463
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Speaker 1: the slot too. When teams try and spread him out,

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Speaker 1: they go with the two safeties and they bring him

465
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Speaker 1: in and let him just play. You know, he's kind

466
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Speaker 1: of a Diamon Nicol monster. Guy on the South that

467
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Speaker 1: really stood up to me was Jonathan Williams. Obviously, we

468
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Speaker 1: oh good, somebody actually asked about him. He's he's been

469
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Speaker 1: the forgotten prospect. You know. He over the summer, he

470
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Speaker 1: was the top senior running back prospect, missed all this

471
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Speaker 1: past year with a foot injury. We got a chance

472
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Speaker 1: to see him today. He's limited this week, so we

473
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Speaker 1: won't get to see him full go. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I was standing next to a lot of the packers. Guys,

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Speaker 1: he's dropping names now, No, that's they really wanted to

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Speaker 1: find out about Jonathan Williams. They're not alone. A lot

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Speaker 1: of team they didn't want to find out about Jonathan Williams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do, and that two fourteen tape is what you

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Speaker 1: gotta go to on Jonathan Williams exactly. So anyway, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: how this uh Senior Bowl win off. So I want

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Speaker 1: to get into some Twitter questions here, Dave, you said,

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Speaker 1: we get some people that are chiming in, and so

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Speaker 1: Uh here's a good one. That's I mean, we got

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Speaker 1: plenty on once questions, but we'll start with one. Curtis

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Speaker 1: Rivera wants to know we talked a little bit Jalen

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Speaker 1: Mills and maybe some other guys, any defensive backstand out

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Speaker 1: on the first Gay Day. He's a Boise fan, so

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00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: he's especially curious about Darry and Thompson. Yeah, but DB's

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Speaker 1: in general. Tavon Young Temple corner. Sure, I had a

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Speaker 1: nice day, fluid. I saw some sticky coverage from him,

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00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: so I thought he helped himself. Um it really Phil

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Speaker 1: Savage loves the small school corner does and so every

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Speaker 1: year we see a lot of these small school corners here,

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Speaker 1: and I thought we saw for a couple of them. Uh,

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00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, the jumping competition was was pretty big for

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Speaker 1: some of them, and so, um, you know, we'll have

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Speaker 1: to see how that goes throughout the week of practice.

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00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: Talking about DeAndre Hall, the corner from Northern Iowa, who

561
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: has humongous arms like thirty four and three quarters in charms,

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, bigger than offensive tackles, Harlan Miller

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Speaker 1: the Southeast Louisiana kid, and h Bradberry the Samford corners.

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Speaker 1: So I think we want to see these smaller school

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Speaker 1: corners see how they progressed throughout the week as they

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Speaker 1: you know, face this competition and get acclimated. Did candidate

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Speaker 1: do anything for you? He had a few nice plays,

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00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: had a few you know, struggled a few other plays.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was a mixed bag from him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: See the thing about him and I love the length

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Speaker 1: I've talked about this. He's the Virginia corner. The very

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Speaker 1: first play he drives on the ball and a plant

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Speaker 1: and knocked it down. Timing long strides, it was just

574
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Speaker 1: bam and you're like, oh, here he goes. And then

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Speaker 1: the next play they take him on a nine route

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Speaker 1: and it's Struggles City. So he is not going to

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Speaker 1: be fast. He has range as far as his range,

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Speaker 1: as far as his build. If anything's in front him,

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Speaker 1: anything he can drive on. I think he's gonna be outstanding.

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00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: But we saw a double move against Notre Dame that

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Speaker 1: ended up as a touchdown. And today they ran the

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Speaker 1: UCLA kid Peyton ran a nine route on him and

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Speaker 1: caught a touchdown. So yeah, there's some there's some things,

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Speaker 1: but I agree with you about I was sometimes these

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Speaker 1: the small school corners, you know, they it's gonna take

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00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: him a day or so to feel more comfortable, and

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00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: tonight they'll get some coach and they'll go through the tape.

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00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: Coaches will point out, hey, you need to think about

589
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Speaker 1: your technique. Gonna tell you to do this, this is

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Speaker 1: what you need to do. So anyway, yeah, I agree

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Speaker 1: with you on your corners. There. Dave Jake wants to know,

592
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Speaker 1: and I guess I mean, we'll throw out Braxton Miller

593
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Speaker 1: for the purposes of this mid round wide receivers who

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Speaker 1: might have impressed you today And I we've talked a

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Speaker 1: guy that I noticed was Sharp, who we've talked about

596
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Speaker 1: So last week of the Shrine game, they were seven

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Speaker 1: and three quarters. Today they were eight. Ye, get bigger

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Speaker 1: hands him. Yeah, that's we're all about. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what though, you're right, Uh, we've the kid from Peyton

603
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604
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Speaker 1: team is they put him in the slot some I

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Speaker 1: mean they did. They moved in both sides vertical routes

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Speaker 1: we talked about. He had some incut routes that he

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Speaker 1: was able to run, but played him out of the slot.

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Speaker 1: I thought that showed a lot though, the fact that

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611
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Speaker 1: could play on that left side, right side, but he

612
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Speaker 1: could also play in the slot. I thought he had

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Speaker 1: some good catches, so I tracked the ball pretty well

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Speaker 1: when I was talking about with candidate on that vertical

615
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Speaker 1: route where he made the touchdown, made the diving catch there.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I haven't seen him. I haven't

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Speaker 1: studied him. I don't know on your board where you know,

618
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Speaker 1: even if he's on your radar as far as that

619
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Speaker 1: type of a guy anything like, he's a late rounder

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Speaker 1: for me. Um And it's it's hard not to include

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Speaker 1: Braxton in this conversation because he was, clear cut, clear

622
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Speaker 1: cut the top wide receiver. I only left him out

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Speaker 1: because we've dedicated so much time to him. Exactly. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think I think he could be in the first

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Speaker 1: or second round pick. Maybe. Oh, Dane's got him right though, folks,

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Speaker 1: Dane told you last week on the Draft Show he's

627
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Speaker 1: not getting out the top sixties exactly. If Philip Dorset

628
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Speaker 1: can go in the first round last year, I don't

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Speaker 1: see why Braxton Miller cans. I'm not ruling out first round.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to see how, you know, the process goes.

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Speaker 1: But Leonte Carew, the Rutgers player receiver, I like him,

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633
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: a borderline top five senior receiver in this class. I

634
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: see a smaller golden Tate. Didn't have a great day

635
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: to day. Too many drop passes, uh, you know a

636
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: few from Wins that were on target, right. I think

637
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: that's what kind of hurt wins a little bit times

638
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: when you want to say, whoa wait a minute, you

639
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: got to catch that ball for him? Absolutely, so Carew

640
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: I want to see. I need to see bigger things

641
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: from him moving forward. But I do think you know,

642
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: Burbridge and Carew I think are in that mix, you know,

643
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,959
Speaker 1: top five senior wide receivers kind of you know on

644
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: the cusp there. Yeah, I was kind of hoping that Sharp.

645
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: You know, I was hoping that he would stay. The

646
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: film from you, Mass I think is very good and

647
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: that is against Matt competition. Well there's sometimes, but they

648
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: played Temple right and you know what, he makes some

649
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: play So I give the man due but absolutely, but

650
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: you're right, yeah, I will again, let's see what tomorrow brings,

651
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: maybe even Thursday for somebody to say, and let's see

652
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: what the game does as well. And with Taja Sharp,

653
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: it goes back to last week for me seeing him

654
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: at the East West Shrine game. He wasn't the most impressive.

655
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean the Temple wide receiver impressed me more a

656
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: few other guys. Sou Definitely for Taja Sharp. He's got

657
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: this great opportunity to be in front of scouts again.

658
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: You know, let's see him make the most of it. Dave,

659
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I'll say this one thing, and nobody on the South team.

660
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm not using correct English there, I'm sure, but I

661
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: was not impressed with anybody on the South team when

662
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: it came to receivers. I thought they were all smallish.

663
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: It seems like we have the better draw with the receivers. Yeah,

664
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: but they had the better defensive lineman. This this is

665
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: gonna be if you could get the ball out, hey, Carson,

666
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: have fun. Yeah, exactly. We'll see how tough Carson Wentz

667
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: really is in this football. The South team does have

668
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd Oklahoma is a good receiver. But no love

669
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: for jay Lee. Huh. A bunch of people in Waco

670
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: don't like you right now? No, jay Lee, you know

671
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: for a guy that's not really I mean, Corey Coleman

672
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: gets all the love a lot of receivers, but jay Lee.

673
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: Actually I thought he did a nice job. He saw,

674
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, quick release off the line, h long arms.

675
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: I thought he did okay today definitely, you know, caught

676
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: my attention where I want to see more the rest

677
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: of the week. See that just I need to pay

678
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: better attention because I felt didn't feel like though watching

679
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: the receivers and and my guy, Jerry Sullivan's coach at Jackson,

680
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: he coaches them up, and I didn't see when you're old,

681
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: you can do that. It's fair. Yeah, all right, you're

682
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to run out

683
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: of time on the segment, and I want to I

684
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: want I want to get to this because I mean,

685
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: this is the guy. Um. So you guys have both

686
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: covered plenty of these Brian, you especially have been around

687
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: for a long time. Like, what do you make of this?

688
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz hype that the way? I mean, you know,

689
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: a month and a half ago, the average football fan

690
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: had never heard of this guy, and now we're talking

691
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: about him top ten, top five. Uh somebo Gary was talking,

692
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, is he over hyped or is he for real? Uh?

693
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: Michael wants to know. I mean, do you see that

694
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: sustaining itself? I mean, obviously that depends on his performance

695
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: and things like that, but what do you make of

696
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: this compared to the other years and other quarterbacks. I mean,

697
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: it's too early for this hype to come. You know,

698
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: you want to slowly build and gain that momentum as

699
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: a process goes along. We're still three months from the

700
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: draft and Carson Wentz we're being talking about him as

701
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: a possible, ready and getting ready for all the whole exactly.

702
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: This thing is the balloon with everybody with an ice

703
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: pick in their hand, right yeah, just ready to pop that.

704
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: So it's not like he came out of nowhere. I mean,

705
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: we've been talking about him and it's he's such an

706
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: interesting prospect because he missed a second half of the

707
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: year with a wrist in He's from an FCS school,

708
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: so you know, it's not like he you know, went

709
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 1: to Alabama or an SEC school or a top program

710
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, we're just catching

711
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: up to how good he is. You know, he's always

712
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 1: been on the radar, but now you know, seeing him

713
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: live at the FCS Championship game that you know, to me,

714
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: I had him in that early second round. I thought

715
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys might have a chance for him that early

716
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: second seeing him live that secured first round I thought, okay,

717
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: this this gets the first round pick. He's not falling

718
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: out of the top thirty two. But you don't see

719
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: him as a top four player. No, But when you're

720
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: talking about these quarterbacks, all bets are off because you know,

721
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: on my board, he's what twelfth, But you know, when

722
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: if you need a quarterback, it's not like you're gonna

723
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: wait until the twelfth pick to take him. I mean,

724
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: are there better players in front of him? Yes, there are,

725
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: but quarters and quarterback is king and in reality, quarterbacks

726
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: you can't put on your board because or you know,

727
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: your your overall board, because they just carry different value

728
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: than other positions. Would you be terrified if you had

729
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: to pick him? No, I mean at four? Yeah? Terrified? No?

730
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, sure, I'm worried a little bit, but I'm

731
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: not terrified. I mean, what we saw today, but you

732
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: have him as your second best quarterback, right, Yeah? But

733
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: I still think he's a you know, a top He's

734
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: twelve on my board, so obviously I think enough of

735
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: him to put him in my top fifteen. So I

736
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: think he's a darn good player. So I wouldn't be

737
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: scared to take him that early. But you know, obviously,

738
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: I think that there could be a better way to go,

739
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 1: very diplomatic. I liked it. No, I you know, I'm okay,

740
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: you're talking to the guy that says, hey, if that

741
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: tag is up there on the top of that board,

742
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: if you determine that Carson wentz as you're one of

743
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: your top four players on that board and his tags there,

744
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: and you don't take him, that's on you. Oh, that's

745
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: on you. I'm I'm worried about somebody forcing a pick here. Yeah, oh,

746
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: how can you not be you know what, this is

747
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 1: a great thing. Maybe, And I'm not just talking about

748
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, right, I'm talking about I'm just talking about

749
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: in general. But I I think they're better players than now.

750
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: If you if you're asking me about Golf or Lynch,

751
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: then I'm I'm I'm going a different direction. Yeah, you know,

752
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: and I and I like Lynch better than anybody in

753
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: this panel. We have anybody in this show. And he's

754
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: your top quarterback, right, Yeah, he's my top guy. And

755
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: there's other there are several in the NFL community who

756
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: agree with you. And that's the one thing about this

757
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: draft class that people need to realize. There is no

758
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: consensus on these quarterbacks, and that's what scares me. Some

759
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 1: teams will like Golf, someone like Wentz, someone like Lynch.

760
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: It reminds me of two years ago the twenty fourteen draft.

761
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: Some really like Bordles, some really like Bridgewater. I mean

762
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: there was oh yeah, Car, there wasn't that consensus number

763
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: one guy. And that's fine. I don't think there needs

764
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: to be a census. But you know, you better, you

765
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: know nail these quarterbacks and they're they're different because they different,

766
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: they need different things. You look at Golf, I think

767
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: he's a little more pro ready. With Wentz and Lynch,

768
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: ideally you'd like to see them sit a little bit

769
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: and in Dallas they'd be afforded that opportunity. Hopefully as

770
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: long as you know, Tony stays healthy. So it where

771
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: these guys end up their fit the offense, whether or

772
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: not they're pressed in action right away, goes a long

773
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: way to determining, you know, they're how they end up

774
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: their success. This hype train has too much steam right now,

775
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: something yeah, something, Well eventually, what I'll happen is the

776
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: media driving it all. And then but the media then

777
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: catches up with the scouts. Sure that's the one thing

778
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: about the Draft show that we've tried to do is,

779
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, is investigate and educate, And that's the thing.

780
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: Don't don't feel like that. You know, there's somebody laying

781
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: the cold of this train and then eventually it's gonna

782
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: be whoa, wait a minute, this thing is off the tracks. Yeah,

783
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I think we all like the player,

784
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: but I think we need to be a little bit

785
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: cautious about what we're getting into here. Dane laid it

786
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: out perfect, and I know Blake Bortles is off to

787
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 1: a pretty solid career for a third pick overall, but

788
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: when there's no consensus like that, that's what scares me

789
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: off of picking a quarterback in the top five. Like

790
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: I want there to be a little more consensus than

791
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: we have right now. And he mentioned Derek Carr, who's

792
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: going to a Pro Bowl, was taking what thirty third overall,

793
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: second round. I feel a lot better about that. I

794
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: feel a lot better about, you know, getting a guy

795
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: at thirty four, and you know, you can't predict if

796
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: it's going to work out that way, but that you

797
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: know if they're if you're not, If there's not a

798
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: sizeable contingent of people that are sold on this guy spending.

799
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: Who's the guy you would take because you have Tony Romo,

800
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: But again maybe for two years. Yeah, if if that,

801
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: if that, and that doesn't. I don't think that matters

802
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: for me because I'm taking the best quarterback. Yeah, whoever

803
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: I think is the best quarterback is gonna be my pick,

804
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: regardless if he's gonna play next year or two years

805
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: from I agree with that, But it's probably fair to say,

806
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: like maybe Jared Goff or maybe Jared Goff is the

807
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: better guy to start right away, and maybe Carson Wentz

808
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: is the best fit for a guy that has to

809
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: sit for a long term. Would you would you be

810
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: shocked if if Cleveland took a WinCE at two? No,

811
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: absolutely not, because Cleveland he's a quarterback. And if you

812
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: believe that Wentz is your guy, you know whom I

813
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: would argue because he might be the top quarterback in

814
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: this class. I mean, you know, we we obviously like him.

815
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, and ye would it surprise you if three

816
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: years from now, uh you know, he said to do

817
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl. It wouldn't surprise me. I know exactly.

818
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: And so that's why I wouldn't be surprised at all

819
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: of Cleveland falls in love with him and takes him.

820
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: I two, same thing with Goff and really the same

821
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: thing with Lynch. I mean, again, there's no consensus on

822
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, and so for a team that needs a quarterback,

823
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: it just depends on who they think is the top guy.

824
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: And you know how early are they willing to take him.

825
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, you couldn't drive and nail up

826
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: my rear at four if you had to take him.

827
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: That is a drop. I mean seriously, I would sit

828
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: there and I would you know, that's the one. Is

829
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: that the one you're always talking about, the team in

830
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: front of you takes him. Yeah, I mean you know

831
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: you're just you're just singing, You're going, please please san Diego,

832
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: please san Diego, let this cup pass. And then all

833
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden, did that dude? You're like going, Okay,

834
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: but that's the whole about not window dressing your board. Sure, yeah,

835
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: but absolutely, But I'll say it again, if if a

836
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: quarterback tag is on the top of their board, when

837
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: their time comes, they need to take a quarterback. This

838
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: is it's arbitrary and it doesn't mean anything. But I

839
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting. We were talking to Steven Jones

840
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: tonight and somebody was asking about, you know, he's FCS,

841
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: he's only started twenty three games and that scary you

842
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Stephen said no. And the comparison that

843
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: they that got brought up was Joe Flacco, which you know,

844
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: if you're getting Joe Flacco, I think most people would

845
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: be pretty pleased with that one. I hadn't even I

846
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: hadn't considered that, you know where right, let's just say, yeah,

847
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: the FCS comparison, although you know, he did start at pit.

848
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: He started a pit and transferred over. But yeah, the FCS. Uh,

849
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, a top twenty pick from the FCS, so

850
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, Wentz. Assuming he goes top twenty, it's not

851
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: completely unheard of for an FCS quarterback to go that

852
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: high at all. What Uh, that was a good one

853
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: from from coach. That's a good question though, thank you.

854
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I mean and obviously, and we're gonna

855
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: talk more about whence. I'm positive, Um wants to know coach,

856
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: he said, coach, Yes, coach, I think coach Hudson, Oh,

857
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: coach good? Yeah, Um, he wants to know about linebackers

858
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: on this North team obviously, like Ragland is the guy,

859
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: but he's not on the Cowboys team, right, So maybe

860
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: some linebackers that have stood out to you, I know.

861
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: Uh And I talked to one of the scouts today,

862
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: Um Showberth Showbirth from Wisconsin, Joe Schobert. Yeah, ye Shobert.

863
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: Excuse me. He caught my eye once or twice. Um.

864
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: And and considering, yeah, I think the linebacker talent is

865
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: mostly on the other roster. My favorite guy is Facral

866
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: from from That is your guy, yeah, week, Yeah, that's

867
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: my favorite guy. When you talk about linebackers, I don't

868
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: think he fits in surprise. He was two forty four

869
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: today's two fifty little players. Yeah, he's leaner to Honestly,

870
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 1: when I see Kyle Facroll, I want to make him

871
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: a tight end receiver. He does. He looks like a

872
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: big receiver. He's an athlete and he can catch them

873
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: though that you can't. Yeah, he can't. But those long

874
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: strides also worry me a little bit because it, you know,

875
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: it can hinder him in small spaces to you know,

876
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: to break down and finish. Um. I'd love to see

877
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: him a tight end because he's got the ball skills,

878
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: but no, he is such a rangy player, such an

879
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: athlete for that size. Uh, you know, we've seen him

880
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: dropping coverage, we've seen him rush, We've seen him do

881
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: it all at Utah State. And so do you think

882
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: he is he a primarily a three four player? Do

883
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: you think you know he'd fit in the well, he'd

884
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: be a Sam linebacker, and then you know he would

885
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: be he would be a better Kyle Wilbur. It's it's disappointed,

886
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: like I'm just I don't Wilber rushes, but he doesn't

887
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: rush this well. I don't allow myself to get excited

888
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: by tweeners because they fit so much better in in

889
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: three four schemes. You know, like this, this guy he

890
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: could be a monster in a three to four, but

891
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's gonna And that's the problem

892
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: because the Sam linebacker in the scheme is in the

893
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys scheme, is not the most important linebacker. And I

894
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: can't imagine them ever spending. But if you figure out, well, hey,

895
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: maybe this guy can rush, well even still, the guy

896
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: can rush, even if he's a good rusher, and obviously

897
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: if he's amazing, you find a way to make it work.

898
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: But even in that situation, it's probably only going to

899
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 1: be in certain circumstances. You know, It's not like he's

900
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: gonna be coming every down rusher from the same love

901
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: the guy. I love him too, And there were guys

902
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: last year that I liked that fit that same role.

903
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: But I just think it's harder to squeeze those types

904
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: of guys into this scheme as opposed to other ones.

905
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: Another linebacker in the North squad that I like to

906
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: Josh Perry, Yeah, its not bad. The Ohio State not bad.

907
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: The other Ohio State guy, Uh, good looking kid, physical,

908
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: looks like a defensive endure. But he moves moving around

909
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: out there, moves more like a safety. I mean he's

910
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: he's rangy. Uh. You know, we saw him, you know,

911
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: the change of direction, the redirection. He moves pretty well.

912
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: And we've then on tape with his with his coverage ability.

913
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: So I think Josh Perry can be a three down

914
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: linebacker and that's why he's in my top sixty. I

915
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: think he's a second round player. But if he's there,

916
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: it'say early third round. I mean, that'd be a heck

917
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: of a pick. That would be a heck of a pick.

918
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: David got anything else over there? Uh? Yeah. A couple

919
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: of people have asked, and just for the record, Cowboys fans,

920
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: his name is Nick Martin. He's not Zack Martin's brother.

921
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 1: They calling him Zach. He's gotting. Oh, they're asking, how's

922
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: Zach Martin's brother doing. He's got his own name. His

923
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: name is Nick. But several people have been curious about

924
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: what's he looked like? What can you expect from him?

925
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: How's he doing? You know it to me, he doesn't

926
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: have the strength of Zach right, he doesn't have that

927
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: ability to get in and push and make things happen.

928
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: He's plays on his feet. He's a getting away guy.

929
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: He can reach guys. Now, the question I have for

930
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: you and you too, Dave Hilm, and I'll bring you

931
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: in on this. Oh. I appreciate that because of because

932
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: of what to deal is with McKenzie, Bernardo sets an

933
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: inner free agency. Would you would you consider because because

934
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: Nick Martin is a center, would you consider drafting a

935
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: Nick Martin? Keeping Mit your primary as your backup center,

936
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: but teaching to play guard? Well? And he played guard

937
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: last year or yeah, last year two years ago? He

938
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: played guards play and he's listed at guard on the ross,

939
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: but we've seen him on center in this tape. In

940
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: practice today he only played center, But no, I think

941
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: he can play guard at the next level. I love

942
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: the way he's even just similar to his brother. He

943
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: always able to stay square. It's so important for offensive

944
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: lineman stay square to your target. But you're right, he's

945
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: not as not as physically gifted as Zach, but he's

946
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: technically sound. I mean, he's the character, it's it's all there.

947
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: Similar as his brother, he's just not quite as physically

948
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 1: gifted and sound. Yeah, third round. If it's the third round,

949
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm on board because I was gonna say, I'm not

950
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: trying to spend too high of a resource on a

951
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: guy that you're drafting to be a flexible backup basically,

952
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean, but if something yeah, but you know, but

953
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: he could he could be that guy displacing your all

954
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: pro guard and you're all pro center. Or is he

955
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: displacing your freak show. No, no, No, he's tough guard. Yeah. Probably,

956
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: Third is probably too rich to spending. You're talking about

957
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: spending a top seventy pick on a guy that you

958
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: don't really expect to take. It's selling me it's telling

959
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: me wanted to draft a Gavin Escobar, right, you could,

960
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: well you could also. Um, I mean, I'm just trying

961
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: to I'm trying to help looking into the future. Yeah,

962
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: Travis Fredericks only got two years left on his deal.

963
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking of right there. What if

964
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: they don't This is for a whole another day. Yeah,

965
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: I know we're getting into we get a whole another day.

966
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: But but if but if they don't want to pay

967
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick. Sure, yeah, all of a sudden, it's like

968
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 1: you right, you walk. He's a plug in, plug and play.

969
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: Here we go. He's been in, he's been with you

970
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: now for two years. What is Jason Garrett Love position flex? Right?

971
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: So if you're telling me I can get a guy

972
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: who can do both, well, yeah, I'm all about it.

973
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: So it's would be worth the third round pick. And

974
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: maybe that scares me. Yeah, he's a little too early.

975
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean we're still talking, you know, so far in

976
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: the future. I think between the duo one or you

977
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: between all right, we're getting away from draft, but between

978
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: the duo of Bernardo and Leary, I think one of

979
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: them is here in twenty sixteen, and then either you

980
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: either have Bernardo or Zach Martin can back up fun

981
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: anything else? Whatever? Um, do I have anything else? No?

982
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: I don't. That's it. Hang on. Let me said our

983
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: last break and come back and wrap it up there. Okay,

984
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,319
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985
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,200
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Speaker 1: So Oliver again, Yeah, how about that? Wait? How long?

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Speaker 1: How long before the combine another month February twenty well

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00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,399
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00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,560
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1044
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Speaker 1: before I went to break as, I thought, maybe is

1045
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Speaker 1: there any other question? I just I don't want to

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1048
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Speaker 1: of becoming one of our darling guys, so like, I

1049
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about him too much, but at

1050
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: the same time we need to talk about him. But

1051
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: John or what's that John? Or well we like John too,

1052
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: We like all our listeners. But um, Austin Johnson he

1053
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: all and well, there we go. Penn State guys in general.

1054
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: Karl Nassas obviously part of that, but boy he played

1055
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 1: better today too, and nice day to day. What has

1056
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: Brian brought us spent scouting? My god, you didn't like

1057
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: NASA when you saw him, not initially? No, No, I didn't,

1058
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: and you know, I thought it was a try hard

1059
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: guy and he is that. Yeah, he just trash around

1060
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: and oh he gets blind and you know, and then

1061
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: you watch him played Decker and Decker knocks him in

1062
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: the next week and I'm like, okay. And then today

1063
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: he plays left in nice pass rush, plays right in

1064
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: nice pass rush and constantly just you know, another nice player.

1065
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: So interesting because he didn't start a single game in

1066
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: his career until this season, not even high school. He

1067
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: didn't start, wow, And so that's amazing. He had so

1068
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: much to learn. He's a late bloomer. He showed up

1069
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: at like, you know, two hundred pounds when he went

1070
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: to Penn State, a walk on, and so just a

1071
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: late bloomer really coming into his own as a player.

1072
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: And I think we've we've seen that. But you know,

1073
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: back to Austin Johnson. I thought he had a nice

1074
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: practice today. Uh. He just he knows how to find

1075
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: the ball. He's instinctive on the line. Yeah, and he

1076
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: finds the ball and he goes and gets it. He's

1077
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: not the most rangy player, but the short area quickness,

1078
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: the ball wearing this uh, and the power is there.

1079
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's gonna make uh some team very happy.

1080
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: He has a one technique six h four three three

1081
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: twenty three. He carries it well, yeah, he doesn't. He

1082
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: doesn't look bad. Me and old dude. Yeah, and you

1083
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: walk behind him, it's like you walk, you kept to

1084
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: kind of look around him. He's that kind of a

1085
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 1: white guy. And this is a player who he thought

1086
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: he'd be playing basketball. Yeah, that's that's that's where his

1087
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: pro career was gonna go. And so you know he's

1088
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: an athlete. Um, but at the same time, he does

1089
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,720
Speaker 1: carry this weight really well. It's not the field, oh yeah.

1090
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: And he finds the ball. It's not just some of

1091
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: these guys can get up the field, but they don't

1092
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: know where they're going. This guy has a compass and

1093
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: it's pointed to the ball at all times. A very

1094
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: good player. Austin Johnson. The big question for the Cowboys

1095
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: is will he last to that early second round or not.

1096
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: That's something we'll be asking see the next few months. Yeah,

1097
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: that's the that's the question. I mean, And I look

1098
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: at there's there's several one techniques in this track. It's

1099
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: it's crazy, and nobody likes one. These guys especially don't

1100
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: like one doesn't like well, it likes Nick Hayden, he

1101
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: doesn't like any other one. Drawn Reid had a nice

1102
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: day to day the Alabama defensive tackle. I'm just imagining

1103
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: Brian sitting in that studio in three or four months

1104
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: and you know, and the Panthers are on the clock,

1105
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: and the Broncos, who else the you know, the pack

1106
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven, you know, twenty five through twenty nine. Brian's

1107
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: just got his pen and he's just going, come on,

1108
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: come on, Ted Thompson, don't do it. That's and you

1109
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: want to hear me, You want to hear me curse

1110
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: on the air. Yeah, And somebody takes you just throw

1111
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: your pen and then that's what I just I just

1112
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: chucked my I pull a tom cough And they picked

1113
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: the phone up and just throw it against the wall.

1114
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: He did that one time. Who got taken? Who was

1115
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: the guy? It was? Uh? Oh, it happened to be

1116
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: Uh how about this? It was Curtis Enis running back

1117
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: and he ended up taking Fred Taylor. That's he throws

1118
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: the phone against the wall. Curtis Enis and then and

1119
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,720
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he has to take Fred Taylor.

1120
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: And it's like that in itself is like the microcosmim

1121
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: of the draft, Like you're you're so mad that you

1122
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: lose out on a bust that you throw a phone

1123
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: and you draft and you don't know pro bowler, Yeah, Jacksonville,

1124
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: Jaguar Hall of Fame, nothing else there um because if

1125
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: Eddie Eddie wants to know, Uh, you guys talked about

1126
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: Spence kind of setting the church best pass rusher in

1127
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: the draft. Was there anybody like that? He said, defensively,

1128
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: but was there anybody like that for the North in

1129
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: the second practice today? Just kind of somebody that you

1130
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: were like, this guy's not playing around, and well that

1131
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: was our that was our guy. Nasa Yeah, I mean

1132
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing around. He was he was rushing the

1133
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: passer and you're like, going, that's what he is. Hey,

1134
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: By the way, our Stanford tackle is it Murphy? Murphy

1135
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: had a really day and you start and you figure

1136
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: Stanford would have some guys that could. It's always funny

1137
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: with these Stanford guys because you watch them on tape

1138
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: and they're tough and they're rugged, and then they come

1139
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 1: here and you know, you take them out of their element,

1140
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: and you know, Murphy had what a thirty two inch

1141
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: arms disappointing there, and then the practice didn't go as

1142
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: well as you would hope. So I had this whole

1143
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: tackle class. I still have hope for Spriggs. Indiana attack

1144
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: had a couple of nice reps did But besides Spriggs,

1145
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: the rest of these offensive tackles, it's a mess. There

1146
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: isn't much there. So if you need an offensive tackle

1147
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: in this group, not much there. Okay, with h M

1148
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: throwing my boy Dylan in there, just he was out

1149
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: there popping people. I like that. I don't know how

1150
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: good he action he is now there, I don't know

1151
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: how good he actually is, but he was hidden. We'll

1152
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: let you. We'll get back to Valley Ranch. We'll watch him.

1153
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: We'll start watch him because I need to do him too. Okay,

1154
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: we've go. We got a few more minutes to go

1155
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: before we have to wrap up our show for this evening.

1156
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: Looking forward to tomorrow, practice has been backed up. We're

1157
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: getting some weather that's coming through. Yeah, mobile tonight and

1158
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: then early tomorrow morning. So the North practice will lead

1159
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: us off at noon and then the South practice will

1160
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: be at two thirty, so it'll be thirty minutes between practices.

1161
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: So just hang with us on Twitter and flurry. Yeah,

1162
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: it's gonna be an all day sucker, as they say, so, yeah,

1163
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: it should free up our morning to provide some content

1164
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: for exactly. So, Yeah, make sure you check out Dallas

1165
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com and then also check out Dane stuff

1166
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: on CBS Sports. Just going into tomorrow, some guys had

1167
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: some questionable days, some guys had some good days. A

1168
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: thought or two and maybe what we'll see tomorrow. Well,

1169
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: and with these All Star games, the most important thing

1170
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: is just you want to see guys get better. And

1171
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, you listen to what the coaches are saying

1172
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: to these players and how did these players react. Are

1173
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: they making the proper adjustments and you know, taking what

1174
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: the coaches are telling them and applying it to their

1175
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: game and showing that in practice. So, you know, Braxon

1176
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: Miller returning these punts, Carson Wentz, uh, you know, they

1177
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time with Carson, you know, just

1178
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: talking to him about the offense and timing and different things.

1179
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: And so you know, especially with these quarterbacks, especially with Wentz,

1180
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: want to see the improvement from day to day. Yeah,

1181
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: I think I think you're absolutely right that that I

1182
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: thought he was a little anxious today. I thought he

1183
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: was a little tried, a little too much. You know,

1184
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: I have feeling that Wade Wilson will get him in

1185
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 1: that meeting room tonight and say, okay, hey, just calm

1186
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: down a little bit, is what we're gonna do, and

1187
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: then away they'll go, Dave anything you got from your end, oh,

1188
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Wentz is the obvious one. And then you know,

1189
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: now that we're getting into full pads, he might see

1190
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more football. I'm intrigued by. Yeah, I'm

1191
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: intrigued by Kenneth Dixon. Yeah, I thought he looked good today.

1192
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: Just do you like your either? I like that, So

1193
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: I want to see some more of him. Hopefully he

1194
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: gets to get in the mix and actually maybe break

1195
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: some tackles and do some stuff like that. So that'll

1196
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: be fine. And then you know, me personally, I have

1197
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: a feeling the big dog Jerry Jones is going to

1198
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: talk to us tomorrow. So yeah, makes you check that out.

1199
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones talk today, He's on up on the website

1200
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: and hopefully Ken I don't know if I'm speaking out

1201
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: of turn talking to you, maybe some Senior Bowl Live tomorrow.

1202
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: Maybe perhaps if there're some one on ones we could make. Yeah,

1203
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: if there's some one on one today, we'll definitely hit that. Yeah, we'll.

1204
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett said in post game press conference or post

1205
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: practice press conference that he understands how important one on

1206
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: ones are, So I guarantee in the full pads tomorrow

1207
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: we'll see some one on ones. We'll see some nine

1208
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: on seven. So hopefully I can get down on the field.

1209
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll grab Dame Brugler if he's available or so

1210
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: it's competitive, yeah, yeah, and we'll we'll give you well, yeah,

1211
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: it'll be. And you know what we can do. We

1212
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: can show the whole scheme. We don't have to worry

1213
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: about this scheme. We can show you some schemes. So

1214
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: all right, Well that'll do it for the Draft show tonight.

1215
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody out there for hanging out with us. I

1216
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: appreciate it. We all appreciate you. We thank you for

1217
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: all of your Twitter messages and questions and all that

1218
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: that makes it all go. Here. For my buddies, David Hellman,

1219
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: for Dane Bruglon, Brian Brusson, also for Kent Garrison, our

1220
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: executive producer, thank you again and we will see you

1221
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: probably again. We'll tweet out the time, but six thirty

1222
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: seems to be a time that works for everybody, so

1223
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: we'll be back Thursday night. So make sure you're checking

1224
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: out Dane's work on CBS Sports and then all our

1225
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: work on Dallas Cowboys dot com, and we'll see you

1226
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: tomorrow