WEBVTT - Ep. 419: Hot Legs and Burnin' Squirrel

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<v Speaker 1>This is the me Eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,

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<v Speaker 1>bug bitten, and in my case, underwear. Listening past, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't predict anything presented by First Light, creating proven versatile

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<v Speaker 1>hunting apparel from Marino bass layers to technical outerwear. For

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<v Speaker 1>every hunt, First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer. Kevin Murphy

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<v Speaker 1>tells what's in the oven? Man, Man, what we got

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<v Speaker 1>is rabbit hot wings and squirrel hot wings. Well not

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<v Speaker 1>just that. Three ways, three six ways, sorry, six ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Six different sauces, starns barbecue sauce, a medium wing sauce,

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<v Speaker 1>a hot wing sauce. Guy's favorite. What is it? Guy?

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<v Speaker 1>You be? I don't know what a good man? It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't nothing but like a spider, it's a bottom and

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<v Speaker 1>I almost had to add some water to it to

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<v Speaker 1>give it make it flow out of there. So it

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<v Speaker 1>must be the house specialty here. And then I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to put the ghost pepper on, and Steve started talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a story and I wandered off, and he like,

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<v Speaker 1>give'd be the death glare to get back on. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, people like different things different, something like

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<v Speaker 1>it hot, something like it mild. And we did a

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<v Speaker 1>prep that just and we we knocked it out and

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<v Speaker 1>what like ten minutes. Yeah, you two guys, y'all like

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<v Speaker 1>a production butcher shop cutting the squirrels up. The rabbit's up.

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<v Speaker 1>We saved the tenderloins out of the rabbit. For we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fry some make some rabbit tinders. That man, any kid,

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<v Speaker 1>if they didn't like rabbit tenders, they just ain't a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the next thing to a chicken nugget that

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<v Speaker 1>you would get, you know, at a restaur of whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>but much better, much better. For I'm gonna go, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bread it up, and we're gonna Friday and seven

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<v Speaker 1>jard lard, which I have never seen before, but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess at Michigan that's what they man. Well, you see,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. Man, I don't know enough about this

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you all about this, but there's a thing

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<v Speaker 1>I wish Jesse Griffiths was here. When you get I

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<v Speaker 1>used to think that large like, man, I got so

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<v Speaker 1>many balls in the air right now, Okay, If I

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<v Speaker 1>was making goose con fee long ago, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to and I didn't want to save enough fat

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<v Speaker 1>from geese to get enough fat to cook them in.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't want to buy some little four ounce

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<v Speaker 1>tub of duck fat for three million dollars. I would

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<v Speaker 1>go down and buy the shelf. Stable man, techa man,

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<v Speaker 1>take it. Whatever the hell that company is lard, the

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<v Speaker 1>square block of lard on a shelf, wrapped in wax

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<v Speaker 1>paper and cardboard. You follow me. We've got it back home,

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<v Speaker 1>not that brand. We have a there's white, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>snow white. Mgee, I thinks what we have back home anyway?

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<v Speaker 1>Block a lard on the gross store shelf. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fully know this, why it isn't. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Griffiths was here. He doesn't like that stuff because

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<v Speaker 1>there's something done to that that's not done to the jarred,

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<v Speaker 1>sealed or refrigerated lard. He and he's not like a

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<v Speaker 1>fussy he's not a fussy man. He doesn't have all

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<v Speaker 1>these rules about things he doesn't understand, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>rules for no reason, big good name of a book,

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<v Speaker 1>rules for no reason. So he doesn't have a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of rules that you ask him a bunch of questions about.

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<v Speaker 1>It winds up being he doesn't know what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I just trust him. Generally, and he doesn't like that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of lard. He likes the stuff like in a

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<v Speaker 1>in a jar, the refrigerated or sealed lard. And it

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<v Speaker 1>has something to do with some treatment they do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes that you can put it on your shelf

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<v Speaker 1>for eighteen years, not sealed, and nothing bad happens to it.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes unstabilized. Lord, now you talking, I've got a question.

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<v Speaker 1>So lard is from swine from a pig. It's rendered

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<v Speaker 1>fat from a pig, though right from generally they use

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's tallow as beef and lard as pork.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know how etched and stolen that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Gotch and grease is bear um, you know the pioneers,

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<v Speaker 1>they would make you. Have you ever eaten a crackling? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>pork like pork skin right, No, you'd be bear cracklings

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<v Speaker 1>kind of yeah. They would render the lard and out

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<v Speaker 1>of the cracklings, they would cut them up in little

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<v Speaker 1>chunks and if you really got one special, have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of meat left on it. Though. That was

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<v Speaker 1>like from my my grandparents on my mother's side, they

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<v Speaker 1>would have a big hulk killing. You know, I told

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<v Speaker 1>you about the hull killing pole that had like eight

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<v Speaker 1>coons hanging from it. That my cousin Tim, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>the picture of that. Gotta get him. I gotta get

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<v Speaker 1>a copy of that thing. But I can remember as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, they would be rendering lard out there from cracklings.

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<v Speaker 1>They have like a press two two boards together. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they wrap it in cheesecloth, get the get the cracklings,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they would squeeze it and squeeze all the

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<v Speaker 1>lard out and and jarred up or whatever. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what my grandma did there. And then they would

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<v Speaker 1>use the cracklings to make crackling corn bread. Um. Some

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<v Speaker 1>people would feed them to their dogs, but they would

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<v Speaker 1>get two products. You know, nothing was wasted from the hog,

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<v Speaker 1>but the squeal. Everything else went to use somewhere down

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<v Speaker 1>the line. Do you know the old term for what

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<v Speaker 1>you might now call the pantry used to be called

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<v Speaker 1>a what m hmm? You scratch beard all day long?

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<v Speaker 1>The larder that's cract deal. Scratch your beard. Actually helped

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<v Speaker 1>scratches beard. And the minute he did like two strokes,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer came spitting out of him. The larger Because

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<v Speaker 1>you can create an anaerobic environment. This is what Confie is.

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<v Speaker 1>You can when you take meat cooked meats and put

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<v Speaker 1>him in lard, you create an anaerobic environment, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>oxygen and oxygen free environment when it's encased and large.

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<v Speaker 1>So the larder was where you would store non refrigerated

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<v Speaker 1>foods encased and lard to prevent spoilage, to greatly delay spoilage.

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<v Speaker 1>So why are people listening to this show man? Because

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<v Speaker 1>you learn about all this stuff with lard. I learned

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<v Speaker 1>that just right now, Steve two of us. Um uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff about larden every other week probably.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Confie though. M so good. Now, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you're making. And then I want you to answer

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<v Speaker 1>me this question, Kevin Murphy, you said something then yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>those very cocky sounding just once Kevin's dog, Kevin's squirrel dog,

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<v Speaker 1>Shorty super stout, Shorty super style short just prior to it,

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<v Speaker 1>bite and dirt myth and leg. What you hear about this? No? Yeh,

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<v Speaker 1>dirt got bit now he thinks he's got rabies. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just a little nip. It didn't break his skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Woke him up though really a dog didn't like him anyhow,

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<v Speaker 1>just prior to him trying to kill dirt. Kevin's dogs

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<v Speaker 1>track and a squirrel. We actually saw the squirrel, so

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<v Speaker 1>we saw, we saw, we saw a fox squirrel. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>those fox squirrels up a different tree. A black squirrel

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<v Speaker 1>went that direction, all right, we saw a black squirrel. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>black phase. So two fox squirrels went up across the road.

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<v Speaker 1>A black phase gray squirrel tore off through the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with gray. There was a black and gray gray. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>super stout Shorty was on its trail and gets to

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<v Speaker 1>a little tree, the kind of tree where you know

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<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna find the squirrel in like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of trees. It chased the squirreling the tree, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>you ever gonna find a squirrel in that tree? Full

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<v Speaker 1>of holes? Huge, you know, But this is just a

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<v Speaker 1>little tree, small tree with some grape vines and some vegetation,

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<v Speaker 1>a squirrel tree, you know. But you're like, if he's

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<v Speaker 1>in there, he's got a problems. Yes, yes, he has

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<v Speaker 1>no no where to hide, and the dog is going ballistic,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, I don't know what I thought, but

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like, oh, there's something up in that tree.

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<v Speaker 1>And the more I looked at it. I said, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a raccoon of the tree. And at first I was

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<v Speaker 1>I texted Matt Cook that they were eighteen inches apart,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was exaggerating, Yes you were. Well, okay, Zucker,

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<v Speaker 1>how many inches apart were there? And are you seven

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<v Speaker 1>and a half inches apart? Times take? No, no, times two.

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<v Speaker 1>Look here, they're closer now. He was spreading his arms apart.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only reason I know, because I've seen the footage.

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<v Speaker 1>They were a lot closer, a lot closer, a lot closer. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>right there, I'm the one that climbed up in there.

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<v Speaker 1>From Kevin's chest to one arm extended, yeah, from his brisket,

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<v Speaker 1>the center of his brisket to his Yes, I'll go that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's twice eighteen. You know what, I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>this because I'm gonna fill this out there just because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get you something. I'm gonna get you some action.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even rubbing. From the center of Kevin's brisket

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<v Speaker 1>to his empty ring finger, very empty ladies to his

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<v Speaker 1>ring finger, look past his compass. This is where my

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<v Speaker 1>rain is right here in this as the Boys in

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa says, Murphy, What are you doing with those Bengals?

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<v Speaker 1>So I took my ring, something that my mom gave me,

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<v Speaker 1>and my senior ring what was left of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>made something really good out of it, a bangle. You

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<v Speaker 1>took your wedding ring and all that stuff and melted

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<v Speaker 1>it down. Yep, I had a friend winging man Raymond's son.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, look here's yeah, that's my wedding ring, my

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<v Speaker 1>high school ring and a piece of family jewelry that

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<v Speaker 1>that blowed to my mom. So I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>you some ladies right now, Kevin. Well, I've got a

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<v Speaker 1>gold Bengal. Oh ladies like that? They look at that shiny?

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<v Speaker 1>You never tried anything like tender or anything? Have you?

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<v Speaker 1>Hadn't been on tender yet? No? Yeah, I'm open to

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<v Speaker 1>anything I hold. Are you real quick? I am twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one on the inside and worn in thirty sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>winners on the outside, so average that so twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty four, that's eighty eight. So I'm forty four. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good way to look at it. So younger than you.

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<v Speaker 1>He's ready. Um and then you So this happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was quite I was quite surprised. Because I was

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that were he not it was a medium boer coon,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wondered to myself, were he not so caught

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<v Speaker 1>by surprise of us coming through the woods, would he

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<v Speaker 1>have made a play on killing the squirrel that undoubtedly

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know he was there when he ran up that tree.

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<v Speaker 1>So the coon's already in the tree, just resting for

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<v Speaker 1>the day, he's napping, he's got his nap, and all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the squirrel happens to pick a tree

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<v Speaker 1>or raccoons in books up the tree, passes the coon by,

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<v Speaker 1>probably thinks of himself, holy shit, and then plasters himself

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<v Speaker 1>in the top of the tree right by the raccoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Would the raccoon have said, I'm gonna catch that squirrel

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<v Speaker 1>or not? But we were coming, and he the raccoons

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<v Speaker 1>surely aware of us as well. He's probably like that

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<v Speaker 1>is well, first of all, that's one really unlucky raccoon

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<v Speaker 1>just taking a nap, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>here comes Steve Ranella's crew just right under his tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Because dogs, yeah, yeah, man, that's an unlike. So we

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<v Speaker 1>got the raccoon and got the squirrel, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>said something to the effect of um, bet you've never

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<v Speaker 1>seen a raccoon and a squirrel in the same tree,

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<v Speaker 1>or I bet you bet you never got a raccoon

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<v Speaker 1>and a squirrel out of the same tree before. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you said the cocky thing where you said that,

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<v Speaker 1>basically that's happened to you before. I'm sixty four winners,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of things has happened to me before.

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen it before. I've seen critters that uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Texarcana swamp rabbit hunting the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>of um December. We're out there. I've got Polly Puerpreche.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a little bit on the trashy side. She actually

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<v Speaker 1>tree a coon in the daytime down there, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was going like slow slow up the side of a tree.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we were hunting along. I called her off

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<v Speaker 1>that we were hunt along and I seen her hit

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<v Speaker 1>a trail of swamp rabb I think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>swamp rabbit, don't know that for sure, and she ran

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<v Speaker 1>it into a hollow log and then the swamp rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>ran out ramby me. I did one of those like

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<v Speaker 1>hail Mary shots, pulled the trigger and just watched the

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<v Speaker 1>swamp rabbit drift on off thinking that I probably missed it.

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<v Speaker 1>There was some other hunters over there, and then poly

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<v Speaker 1>pure breds still up there, and the next thing I know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an armadilla that shoots out of that hollow log.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got a swamp rabbit armadilla out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm off the track, but I have seen coons

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<v Speaker 1>and squirrels in the same tree before. Not numerous times,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have seen that before, not thirty seven and

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<v Speaker 1>a half inches apart. You're correct, and that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear that you're right. So well, is it

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<v Speaker 1>sae to say, oh, we're gonna move on. I got yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta stuff. I got stuff. Come on, Zucker, help me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm burning. I'm burning, so I need Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about single shot twenty twos and shooting rabbits and begging.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I bring by twenty two. I'm really good with

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty two. I can kill ship with my twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's talk about twenty twos and the story

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<v Speaker 1>of the single shot. And I got other stuff I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta talk about. Took you guys ready, I'm gonna regale

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<v Speaker 1>you guys with interesting stuff. Do you hear about this Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go to my Instagram at Stephen Ronella, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see a pile. You do it right now, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna see a If you go back an image

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<v Speaker 1>or two, two, three, four images back, you're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>a photo of a ton of schools. Okay, sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like floating in space. This is from I'm gonna pull

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<v Speaker 1>it up myself, pull it up myself. Okay, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see a picture of a whole bunch of skulls Bison, antiquois,

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<v Speaker 1>red deer, and rhinoceros skulls. This is from a paper

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<v Speaker 1>that just came out. You're gonna find this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna interest the dickens out of you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you talking about this. No you didn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>heard you talked about this. Somebody. Maybe I read the post.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I read the post from a paper titled

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<v Speaker 1>a symbolic Neanderthal accumulation of large herbivore crania. I translate

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<v Speaker 1>that on Instagram into a Neanderthal cave stacked with a

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<v Speaker 1>big ass collection of European mounts. This is from Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>A cave complex in Spain where Neanderthal hunters This is

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<v Speaker 1>my words, my synopsis of this thing from Okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>journal is Nature Human Behavior, so you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>journal Nature, Nature Human Behavior Journal. The article again a

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<v Speaker 1>symbolic Neanderthal accumulation of large herbivore crania my words, researchers

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<v Speaker 1>unearthed defined in a cave complex in Spain where Neanderthal

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<v Speaker 1>hunters stashed the skulls of large bison, deer, and rhinoceros,

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<v Speaker 1>all with large appendages, which is science speak for big

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<v Speaker 1>old horns and antlers. Here's what's here's the crazy thing

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<v Speaker 1>about it. No lower jaws in the stack. Okay, it

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<v Speaker 1>represents many many animals. No lower jaws in the stack,

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<v Speaker 1>no other bones at all in the stash in this

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<v Speaker 1>particular cave, and all the things had exemplary horns on

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<v Speaker 1>the bison and rhinoceros and on the red deer. A

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<v Speaker 1>little trophy collection. That's where they brought the toads. That

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<v Speaker 1>was European, right, Spain, euro Mounts I called Freedom Mounts. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When they had to remind the French fry, remember when

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<v Speaker 1>the French were giving us a bunch of shit and

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<v Speaker 1>we had to change French fries to Freedom fries. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so, I'd like to call European mounts freedom mounts. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>freedom Mountstan that the original freedom mounts in the cave. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm digging you. The paper states this is in

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<v Speaker 1>the sum the sum up the conclusion of the paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote today, the accumulation and display of large mammal skulls

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<v Speaker 1>in the form of hunting trophies is linked to sport hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>Very careful word like, I applaud the words selection here.

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<v Speaker 1>I applaud the words selection because, unlike all the not

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<v Speaker 1>all the Unlike so much of the garbage you read

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<v Speaker 1>about hunting in the media, careful word selection is linked

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<v Speaker 1>right to sport hunting. Similar practices, it's continuing on. Similar

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<v Speaker 1>practices for varying purposes have however, also been documented for

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<v Speaker 1>the most recent hunter gatherer societies. Indeed, cultures worldwide have

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<v Speaker 1>invested animal skulls with a strong symbolic content and have

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<v Speaker 1>protected or displayed them with due attention meaning meaning what

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<v Speaker 1>seth meaning people like to show off there the big

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<v Speaker 1>stuff they kill. There, you have it right from Seth

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<v Speaker 1>as we do today. Yeah, they're like, come to my cave.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to show you this bison I got last week.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Chester, if you come to my cave all right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a five gallon bucket that as somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four and thirty swamp rabbit skulls cleaned up, not

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned up yet rotten. They're rotting. The flesh is coming

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<v Speaker 1>off of them. So I'm gonna let them. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the boys at work. I try to get him to

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<v Speaker 1>clean them for me. He said, Man, this is easiest

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do. Murphy said, go back there in the lab.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a five gallon bucket, put him in there, fill

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<v Speaker 1>it just over the top of water, punch a hole

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<v Speaker 1>in it, let it set to summertime whatever going there

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<v Speaker 1>and spray off. And then he said, you'll have your

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<v Speaker 1>swamp rabbit skulls. So you're gonna see twenty at least

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four swamp rabbit skulls that I collected this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't for Chester. Your will and Kevin's willis

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<v Speaker 1>can say I bequeathed this bucket of rotten rabbit sculls

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<v Speaker 1>to Chester only if he comes down and picks him up. Yeah, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys know this. Kevin has

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<v Speaker 1>bequeathed me his crazy cowboy hat, and I think sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I go down to when I know something.

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<v Speaker 1>When I next visit him, I get my pick of

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<v Speaker 1>the litter out of the gun room. No. Twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>twenty tas you know. And I got no left headed

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<v Speaker 1>twenty tis in there. But they've got some nice pumps.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, yeah, yeah, I want my kids killed. Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about the guns that I have or my hunting dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>My son's don't tell me, he says, I mean you die.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give all your hunting dogs away. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sell your guns and buy get tars. I says, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care, so I will be dead. You can do

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<v Speaker 1>what you want if that's gonna make you happy, that's

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<v Speaker 1>my mission. Did you say guitars. He's a he's a musician.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he's gonna sell my guns and buy with

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<v Speaker 1>the money the proceeds and buy buy guitar. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would be looking at the obituary for Beduka, Kentucky. And

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<v Speaker 1>you might get a hell of a deal on a gun,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if you've got to get except for the one

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<v Speaker 1>I take out of that pile, you've got to come

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<v Speaker 1>and pick it up. You should tell him to hit

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<v Speaker 1>us up first before he puts them up for sale.

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<v Speaker 1>I should do what you should tell him, he should

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<v Speaker 1>hit us up first before he puts them up for sale,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'll give him your number. Yeah, well, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>here today. I got another piece of news to report.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of news pieces of report. This

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<v Speaker 1>one's news piece that I picked up myself. Uh Seth

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday observed this is my favorite observation that he observed

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<v Speaker 1>that nothing has brought America together since nine to eleven

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<v Speaker 1>quite like the Chinese spy balloon. Let's get everybody agreed

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<v Speaker 1>for what. The whole country came together around the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that someone needs to shoot that spy balloon down. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, it hasn't been since nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody's been so united. Yeah, everybody when to shoot it down.

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<v Speaker 1>But everybody in the country wanted to shoot that balloon down.

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<v Speaker 1>It really did bring us together. My favorite thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I was telling you Steve the other day, my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>thing that came out of that spy balloon was a

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<v Speaker 1>like a meme photo. It said, Uh, so funny. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it with it's so funny, it said, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, what what did the exact actually say? It's images.

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<v Speaker 1>A few images have been um collected of the well

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<v Speaker 1>how did it go? It was like a from the

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<v Speaker 1>spy balloon over Iowa. And it was like a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of this big, old sunburned dude in his pool throwing

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of beer bottles up in the air at it,

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife was right next to him kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she was like flipping them off

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<v Speaker 1>or doing the same thing, but it was great. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good memes that came out. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>traffic a memes. Didn't seeing him. I like hearing about him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to look at him. Here's an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing I was recently. I had a whole conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Jason about this where I was all fired

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<v Speaker 1>up about reporting around this whole. If you go back

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to the episode we have called Screwed from

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<v Speaker 1>the Right Screwed from the Left a couple episodes ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I went on a real tear about some things that

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<v Speaker 1>the Obama administration had done to usurp Alaska's Management authority

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<v Speaker 1>of Wild Game or of wildlife, and then Trump undoing

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<v Speaker 1>the usurpation and the Biden administration threatening to redo the

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<v Speaker 1>usurpation and this whole thing. And I was talking with

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Jason about how when you read an article,

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<v Speaker 1>when you read, like a mainstream media article about a

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<v Speaker 1>subject you know, well, you realize all the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>the reporter doesn't understand the issue, or is obfuscating the issue,

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<v Speaker 1>or is screwing it up. Okay. But then you read

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<v Speaker 1>another article about something you know nothing about, and you

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<v Speaker 1>feel thankful that the article exists because here you just

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<v Speaker 1>learned all this stuff. But how do you reconcile the

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of reading an article that you know a lot about.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I read an article in the New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times about wild the wild horse issue, the whole article,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, that's not right,

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 1>that's wrong. Okay. But then you know, you read an

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<v Speaker 1>article about something else, You're like, oh, what a great

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<v Speaker 1>piece of reporting. There's actually a thing. There's a word

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<v Speaker 1>gel gell gel Man amnesia. Okay, in a nutshell, gel

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<v Speaker 1>Man amnesia is here. I'm reading from a definition of

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<v Speaker 1>Gelman amnesia. Briefly, state of the Gelman amnesia effect is

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<v Speaker 1>as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on

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<v Speaker 1>some subject you know well, in Murray's case, physics, in

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<v Speaker 1>mind show business. You read the article and see the

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<v Speaker 1>journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or

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<v Speaker 1>the issues. Often articles so wrong it actually presents the

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<v Speaker 1>story backward, reversing cause and effect. I call these wet

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:12.840
<v Speaker 1>streets caused rain stories. Papers full of them. In any case,

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<v Speaker 1>You read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the story, and then turn the page to national international

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<v Speaker 1>affairs and read as if the rest of the newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the Bologna you

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<v Speaker 1>just read, right, You guys understand what I'm saying. It

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<v Speaker 1>on her absolutely, yeah. So it's a name for it,

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<v Speaker 1>Gelman's Gelman Amnesia. A listener, a very kind listener, wrote

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<v Speaker 1>in He says, I was listening to episode four to

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<v Speaker 1>eleven of the me Eater podcasts and not for the

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>first time, I thought Steve needed to be made aware

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<v Speaker 1>of the Gelman amnesia effect. I had no idea it

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<v Speaker 1>had a name. So thank you to Matt. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>great story. Now I'm glad our resident Walleye Tournament anglers

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<v Speaker 1>are here. Chester and South. The guy from Ohio, the

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<v Speaker 1>walleye cheater. We got weights in fish. Yeah. Oh, are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys aware of this? Do you know? We now

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 1>have in our possession and it's going into our new studio.

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<v Speaker 1>The guy that caught the Ohio Walleye Cheaters was on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. We now have the jersey he had on

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<v Speaker 1>that day signed to us. And we have the actual

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<v Speaker 1>leatherman with the broken blade that he very crudely cut

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>in dramatic fashion. In all the videos you see him

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<v Speaker 1>gashing the walleye pulling out weights. We now own for

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<v Speaker 1>our studio, the jersey and the leather man, which we're

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.399
<v Speaker 1>framing in a big case. Yeah, and he signed it.

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<v Speaker 1>We got weights in fish. So we have the NiFe.

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<v Speaker 1>The ship is gonna be highly valuable someday man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the jersey and the night will be in our new studio,

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<v Speaker 1>very prominently displayed. That's that's very generous of him, very

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 1>generous because he could have sold that at like Sothebes

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>or something for six million dollars, seven million dollars others that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't display my hat now, Chester, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that he wears my hat when I'm I'm gonna act.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna wear it, but I don't know. Ronnie Bam

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>had the best advice Ronnie Bam. Ronnie Bam gave me

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.920
<v Speaker 1>two pieces of advice growing up with him, working for him.

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<v Speaker 1>When you got to break up with somebody, You young

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:37.080
<v Speaker 1>listeners out there, listen to me, Ronnie Bam. Advice number one,

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<v Speaker 1>when you need to break up with somebody, don't do

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>the like um. When you need to break up with someone,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the talk you give them. It's not you,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me. Yeah, it's this. There's nothing you can do.

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 1>This is not about you. There's nothing that can be fixed,

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 1>nothing can happen. We're done. We're not trying this out.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 1>We're not taking some time apart. There's nothing that can

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:08.919
<v Speaker 1>be done. We're done. I like that advice. It's the

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>man funk when you get into the funk. He yeah,

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>he would be very annoyed when people would have these

0:28:13.480 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 1>on again, off again. Right, what you gotta do with

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>my hat? Oh? Advice number two? Okay, all right, that's

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Ronnie Bains Rule number one. Ronnie Baans Rule number Rule

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 1>number two is never wear a hat that says hello

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>before you do otherwise, never wear a hat that has

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>more personality than you do. That's good. So that hat

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>works great for you. But you have a better personality

0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:41.959
<v Speaker 1>than I do. And if I get the hat, I'm

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna hang in the podcast. I'll be there, so

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>bunch of ashes in it. Probably it's gonna be a

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 1>half ashes, and I'm gonna frame it. I will make

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>sure that you have a portion of ashes. I'm gonna

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>have some of them sent down here, okay, and guy's

0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna shoot him out the gun barrel. I'll spread them

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>out there or a briar patch where my ashes are.

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I like about a good inch. I want a good

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>inch covering of ashes that happened. Um and super Shorty

0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe down here too, because I've got I made some

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:17.400
<v Speaker 1>bag of my outstanding squirrel dogs rabbit dogs that I've

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I've had since I think I started doing the little

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>funeral by fire. I lost this really good dog that

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I had named Dot Hot Dot Man. She was outstanding,

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just a firehouse and I got into the

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>man funk. And how I got out of it is

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I just cremated her. Had a little Kentucky bourbon saved

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 1>her ashes and started me a bird. It was a

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>big fire, just a bunch of fire there at the house,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and I still remember there after I lost another one

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 1>or two. The ex wife was driving out there and

0:29:57.800 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he kids says, what's daddy doing? He says, he just

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>burn it another one of these dogs. Tree story one

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:15.719
<v Speaker 1>percent track. Well, I'd be honored to have Shorty up there. Okay,

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that'd be awesome. Yeah, we may burn him together if

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you want. I want to get back to this deal.

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>This is all great, he burned dog and everything, but

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to get back to this walleye poetry. One

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of the walleye poachers can accused walleye poachers, Chase Kaminski. Okay,

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>listen to what he is in trouble for now. This

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>is from the Yahoo dot com finance. How do you

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>has there may been to Hermitage, Ohio? How do you

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>say that it's Hermitage Hermitage and it's it's Hermitage, Pennsylvania,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 1>not Ohio. Oh you sure? Yeah? Check this out date

0:30:55.520 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>line of February sixth, Hermitage. I'm reading the article A

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Hermitage man accused of cheating in a fishing tournament by

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>putting weights in fish. We got weights in fish. Is

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>facing more legal difficulties, this time involving the passing of

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 1>fake currency in a bowling alley chase. Elliott Kamenski, thirty six,

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.480
<v Speaker 1>twelve years younger than me, well now thirteen youngers and

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>years younger than me, was charged Monday along with his

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>son Caden Kamenski, eighteen because their address with conspiracy to

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>commit forgering with related charges after employees said they've passed

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>fake one hundred dollars bills and ten pin alley video

0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>surveillance I'm skipping around. Video surveillance from January twenty shows

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 1>one hundred dollar bill with for my year that the

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollar bill says on it promotion picture purpose is

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>only not legal tender. So they got prop money from

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>a movie. Um he bought fifty six worth dollars worth

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a ship with his with his fake hunterd dollar Bildon

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>got forty four legal tender and change they got to

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>investigate him. My favorite part is the text exchange. It's

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it's said for motion pictures only in yours. They don't

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>blame the victim. You're blaming the victim. No, you didn't

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>let me finish ahead. I was gonna say, how stupid

0:32:29.920 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>can they be by like trying that? Pretty stupid? He

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>says he got the money when he sold a PlayStation

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to someone in Akron, Ohio and didn't realize they were fake.

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Read the text exchange, Yden, this is Chase's son, so

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Caden texts as old man texted the Wallee says, sh

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>dash t worked. I think the journalists I know. I'm

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>just okay, shit worked. Chase awesome, should do another one

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>from me tomorrow, Kaden says, Chase, you're still bowling. Kaden says, yeah,

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:15.959
<v Speaker 1>bring bring one of those hundreds, Chase, Okay, you can.

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>You can come play. Cosmics starts at eleven. Nothing bring

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>a father and son together like a couple of eight

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>hundred dollar bills and have a bowling alley. It's cosmic bowling.

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Nothing brings them together. Here's something interesting. Oh sorry, guy,

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.080
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to revisit this dog cremating thing. Well, yeah,

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:49.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just picked curiosity. Uh. I'll cremate them, you know,

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll have some random far wood or tree top or

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe some pallets. Pallets work really good because you can

0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>stack them up like three pallets high. Sandwich. That dog

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 1>in there puts them on the top. It's a yeah.

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 1>And then when it's all over with, I just go

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>in there and pick up some bones, ashes, maybe a

0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>name tag or something, because I'll burn them with her

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 1>collar on. I don't want to reuse that collar, right,

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 1>because that's that dog's collar. You know. It's different than

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>re hunting the same ground. You know that dog earned. Yeah,

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 1>doing a re hunt, that dog earned that. We're gonna

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>get into that. I'm gonna lead the way on that one. Men,

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Me and guy are gonna leave that discussion. We have practice.

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean we have practice on that. I'm not doing

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.319
<v Speaker 1>a re hunt, but I just go I'd look to

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>hear you address the issue of a hunt up up.

0:34:39.080 --> 0:34:41.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, some bones and stuff, and I've got them

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 1>in little ziplock bags and I've got a leather pouch

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 1>with some frayed on. It's like a mountain man pouch there,

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and I've got several dogs and there Bobby Jango, you

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:53.799
<v Speaker 1>hunted with Bobby Jango. He's he's in there, but bad

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 1>told going there morning. He'll go in there, but man,

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>butcher's shit, he may out last mate. He's like ninety

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:02.760
<v Speaker 1>one right now. He'll be thirteen this come in July.

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>And you know, he didn't really do a real good

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>job hunting. But man, I had three male dogs in

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>the kendle together and they got in a damn brawl

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:14.120
<v Speaker 1>because br five four nine he had an injured foot.

0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 1>So super stout Shorty is the only one that come

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 1>out of the first day, you know that we hunted

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 1>with and we took but a bad toe too. But

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 1>he did really get out and hunt around, but you know,

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>we made it. I just think it's really harmable that

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.399
<v Speaker 1>you do that with your dogs. It's I just think

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>that's really cool. Only the really good dog, yes, that's

0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>my only really good The other ones I would just

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>bury him, putting the ground, but the other ones were

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be with me. And when my ashes to

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>get cremated, I've got my tombstones already at the house.

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>A piece of a piece of limestone from just about

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>four hours north of here, from Drummond Island. Oh you

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>got a piece up there? Yeah, I got a piece

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of that flat limestone off that of course, out of

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a souvenir shop. You know, I wouldn't pick anything off

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 1>of public in up there, and I haven't got a

0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:05.839
<v Speaker 1>half of a sandstone now a half of a limestone

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>fence post that come out from Middle Kansas where they

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>use limestone for fence post. Out there, the checks could

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>could hear those things out. And my good friend Zach

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>was out on an up and bird hunt, said, man,

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 1>I like to get one of those. He dug one

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 1>out of a ditch, big massive thing, so it keeps

0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>me grounded when I go on the door. I got

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>drumming out on a little left. I got Kansas on

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>the right, so that would be my markerstone. Have you

0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 1>begun chiseling on that headstone yet? Man? It just so

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 1>happens that I have a stone sculpture buddy from Nashville, Tennessee,

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna put my name and what I won't

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>inscribed on there? What do you want inscribed on it?

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I haven't. You're on your way to

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a rehunt. I would I would say, I would say

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 1>that's what's going on there. I'm going, Yes, that's what

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 1>I think you should have. What do you say when

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it's squirrels dead and you you let your dogs know?

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh oh yea and dead, yeah in a hole

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.439
<v Speaker 1>and dead but I'm not gonna be in a hole.

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be dead. There's no doubt we're all gonna die,

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I'm gonna live too. I die. What

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>did you have to say about re hunts? I told

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:30.919
<v Speaker 1>y'all was wrong in that case. In that particular case,

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I was wrong. Well, I do re hunts. You know.

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>It was in New Mexico. You know, your ibex hunting

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 1>me and Raymond was out scouting around trying to figure

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 1>out the blacktail jack rabbbit, the desert cotton tail and stuff.

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.239
<v Speaker 1>And so we were out scouting around and I kind

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 1>of knew how you were, so I didn't say nothing

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>about hunting this area. And you come in and you

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>saw our footprints on there. You said, Kevin, have y'all

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>been here? I said, we have been here, just scouting around.

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Said man, there's plenty of rabbits in there. Says, let's go.

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 1>And so you took us on some death march up

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 1>next to the mountain with my war out knees, and

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I knew that you didn't like to hunt the same

0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>territory over a rehunt. I rehunt doing a re hunt,

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 1>And what I have found is four rabbits, four rabbits

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and squirrels are not only re hunting for squirrels either. Okay, okay,

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you don't like re hunting for small gang, but you're

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 1>re hunt for big games. So we want to do

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a spot and want to do a spot there day

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and got a lot of rabbits out of it. We

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of rabbits, ran a lot of rabbits,

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>shot a lot of rabbits. And then these guys want

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.400
<v Speaker 1>to go back to the same spot, and I was like, man,

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do a re hunt. We already

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 1>shot all kinds of rabbits out of there, and and

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, we're gonna go in there. Take five steps.

0:38:50.640 --> 0:38:55.439
<v Speaker 1>There's a rabbit places, four rabbits, man rabbits or where

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>rabbits are, and you've got to find out where they've

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 1>got food protection and briars in there. And that's what

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.560
<v Speaker 1>they had. You know, when we saw rabbit tracks, we

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 1>jumped rabbits. They were in the thickest part of that

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 1>that place, that corridor. I truly believe that they will

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:15.800
<v Speaker 1>move in if they were on their fringes, all small

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>game like squirrels. I mean, there was one place when

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>we were we were hunting squirrels on edge of Tennessee's

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>probably back in Man. I don't know if my my

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 1>buddies from Alabama and West Virginia were in there. It's

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>like Wildcat Holla. It was just cram packed full of squores.

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:33.879
<v Speaker 1>You could go in there and get your limit and

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 1>we would all say, or where are we gonna hunt today? Well,

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:39.280
<v Speaker 1>we don't know, Well, somebody would end up in Wildcat.

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 1>It got hunted every single day, and every anybody that

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.600
<v Speaker 1>one hunted in every they got twelve squirrels, they would

0:39:44.640 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>just the food was in there or something safety whatever,

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>but it just got penalty. You just couldn't kill them out.

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>You could not kill them out of Wildcat Holler. And

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I see that, you know, I see that once rabbit

0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>hunting a place and we'd go in there, kill four

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>swamp rabbits, let it rest just a little bit, go

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.239
<v Speaker 1>back in there. You know. We wouldn't pound the next day,

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>but we would go back in there. It's habitat. Man.

0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Guy has got the habitat up. He's got weed seed,

0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>he's got briars, he's got small game corridors where he

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>has a food plot. Here he has water here, he

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 1>has a shelter belt. He has got it figured out.

0:40:23.480 --> 0:40:26.360
<v Speaker 1>This is what we need. We do not need oceans

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>in seas of nothing but native grass in those thick places,

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 1>small game, these rabbits. You look at that and you think, man,

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing in there. But you look at that stuff.

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 1>There may be a little stream or a drain. There's

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>four lane highways in these thick places of briars and

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 1>weeds and trees and stuff. A rabbit's gonna run in

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>places of least resistance. Now in the beginning, he may

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>run through some thick stuff, but he's gonna try to escape.

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna take him a rabbit highway. It might be

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:57.319
<v Speaker 1>a two lane, it may be a four lane. And

0:40:57.480 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>when you figure those out, when you can read that

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>road map a small game, you'll become a better small

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 1>game hunter. Yeah. I truly believe it's a great rabbit

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>habitat great probably some of the best rabbit hunt I've

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.720
<v Speaker 1>ever seen. It's very good. It is very good. This

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:19.240
<v Speaker 1>this is laid out. I want even get some quail

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>up here. There may be winter extremes that freeze to

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>quail down. Because we had one back home in seventy seven,

0:41:26.120 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight. But more on that line is the pheasants

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>that they talk about that they used to kill here. Oh,

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>that it definitely ain't from here. You know that they

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>to talk about pheasants right here that they used to kill. Yeah,

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>but that's those are from Asia. Yeah, but they are

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a species that can handle this habitat. But cause the

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:47.439
<v Speaker 1>glaciers come through here, you're in historic range. We saw that.

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I asked, you know, that's where the native not the native,

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>but they what do you call call that? But that's

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>where the pheasant range was, wherever the glaciers where they

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 1>stopped or stole glaciers in Kentucky. We don't have any

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 1>any uh any physics act. No, he's you're in. You

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.200
<v Speaker 1>are right now south of Moskegan. You're close to the

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.839
<v Speaker 1>historic range of the Northern bobweite Um. And then the

0:42:13.880 --> 0:42:16.359
<v Speaker 1>line now is a bit the line now has moved

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>quite a way as south. So you have it. So

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 1>you got about so dad, I do that they might

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>love it. Man, what do you think about doing that?

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Buying a whole ship load of quail and turning them out? Yeah,

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.000
<v Speaker 1>but I heard that that's that It never works well

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I just said that tune. You were like, well, no,

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:38.399
<v Speaker 1>but it's got to be wild. They got to get

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>We've got to get wild quail. You got to start

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:44.360
<v Speaker 1>catching them. Yes, we got to trade something here in Michigan.

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>DNR has got to go somewhere and get some kind

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.839
<v Speaker 1>of quail. Of course, with the bird flu and those

0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:53.560
<v Speaker 1>diseases stuff across the state lines and all that stuff,

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, but we got to figure out how to

0:42:56.120 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>get on repat Zucker might need to go vigilante. He

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>already is. I've seen action. He's a top notch preder

0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 1>control guy. He joined my team. I immediately he went

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>to the top. He is right there, shoulder to shoulder

0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 1>with me. Here's here's a good letter. A guy wrote

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>in We don't need to touch on that. It's great

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 1>with here, but here's here's letter a guy wrote in

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>so New Mexico. Um, I know this first hand because

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.360
<v Speaker 1>a good friend of mine, who's who's a wild cattle catcher,

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:34.800
<v Speaker 1>has been doing a bunch of work in New Mexico.

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:39.160
<v Speaker 1>He catches wild cattle with hounddogs. In fact, in fact,

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to overshare here. I was on he

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:45.399
<v Speaker 1>was on this podcast. I want his in I Don't

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Love to Dan YouTube Love the best time in the world.

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:54.719
<v Speaker 1>You guys would be like blood brother nuts on a dog.

0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>Blood brothers. You guys would be like yo. You guys

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>would have a hell of a time. So he was

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast he was talking about his business of

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:10.720
<v Speaker 1>he catches cattle that can't be caught. In his words,

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter what kind of cowboy, cow punch or

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>cow catcher you are, you can't do what he can do. Okay.

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.799
<v Speaker 1>He uses his lion hounds and has trained as lion

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 1>hounds to bay cattle that can't be caught. So if

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you got straight, if you're a rancher and you got

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>stray cattle and you get stray cattle off or they're

0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>not supposed to be, they open the wilderness area. Whatever

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't get him, he'll get them. You get cattle

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>that can't be pushed with a helicopter, can't be whatever

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to clean off wild cattle, so you can

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.840
<v Speaker 1>put cattle on the ground that are tame and catchable.

0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>He catches wild cattle that's been out there for generations,

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>not like a cow that was normal and went wild.

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>He catches them that were born wild with these dogs.

0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm all in. He was on the podcast speaking about

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>his line of work and wound up giving a bunch

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>of work down in New Mexico. But the New Mexico

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.520
<v Speaker 1>is getting serious about the wild cattle issue. They got

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:12.319
<v Speaker 1>a plan now to go into the HeLa Wilderness, which

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>is tricky because there's certain constraints around what you do wilderness.

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>But going into the HeLa Wilderness is a plan in

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>place to do helicopter gunning to try to get wild

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>cattle the HeLa Wilderness. Of a listener wrote in wondering

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>about this, he's like, that's all finding good. I'm paraphrasing

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 1>that's all fine and good, But why is it not

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 1>part of the plan when they gunned down a wildcattle

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:46.120
<v Speaker 1>to release GPS coordinates of the carcass immediately, Because he's like,

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:51.000
<v Speaker 1>why let all that good beef go to waste? Do

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>you know for a fact that they let it all

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:56.320
<v Speaker 1>go to waste? They shoot him and just leave them.

0:45:56.400 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>He wants them to shoot them and an immediately release

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.879
<v Speaker 1>GPS coordinate so that people going there and butcher those

0:46:01.880 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>wild cattle and pack up choice cuts. Yeah, I mean,

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.839
<v Speaker 1>yeah it He thinks they should do it during cool weather.

0:46:08.960 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 1>There'd have to be some kind of sign up things.

0:46:11.440 --> 0:46:14.959
<v Speaker 1>So there, you know, get on a list. Back home

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>in Kentucky, we bring in the gun ships, as I

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 1>call them. We've got a wild hog problem. People letting

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:26.719
<v Speaker 1>him lose, thinking there's going to be some kind of

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 1>new sport with their dogs or whatever. And they brought

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>in a gun ship back in I'm thinking about twenty twelve,

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifty. I lose track of time anymore. And the

0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:47.640
<v Speaker 1>pilot said that was the densest population of wild hogs

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that he had ever flown on. They killed like three

0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty Obion Creek bottoms there. They were going

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>in destroying the farmer's field. They were just getting like

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>on a corn row and just route all the way

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 1>down and just eat all the corn seed in there.

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 1>But they killed like three fifty the first year. They

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>come in late March when the vegetation is at the

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:12.600
<v Speaker 1>thinness where they could see them and yes and shoot them.

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:14.719
<v Speaker 1>They came back the next year they killed like one

0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty something, and then they came back the

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>third year and they killed like thirty two. Then they

0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.840
<v Speaker 1>hired a professional trapper to come to come in and

0:47:22.920 --> 0:47:26.919
<v Speaker 1>try to catch those really super smart ones out there.

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 1>We have them at LBL right now. They brought in

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the gun shehelp up there. I don't know. I was

0:47:31.520 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>told the numbers, but I don't remember, so I'm not

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>going to repeat anything. But the wild hogs are a

0:47:37.719 --> 0:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>super big problem because there's the like the swine flu.

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eighteen, I was coming back from Sasasquan on a

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 1>waterfowl hunt. I was sitting with a veterinarian that was

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>a swine veterinary that worked around the world. He had

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:59.640
<v Speaker 1>grown up in Canada and worked his way over into

0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 1>spin and a few other places in Europe. And he

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 1>was flying to Nashville and I asked, you, said, you

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.640
<v Speaker 1>going there to see vacation or whatever. Said, no, I'm

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 1>going there for a seminar on the swine flu. And

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>he told me how bad it was. And then you know,

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 1>if you watched the news and seen that was going

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 1>on in China where they were killing millions and millions

0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:26.080
<v Speaker 1>of tame hogs, where the swine flu come in. And

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>he told me that that. You know, at customs coming in,

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you know they check you for food, you know, not

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>processed like you know, if you had a country ham

0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that you cured at at your house over in Spain

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, they wouldn't let that thing. If it was

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.520
<v Speaker 1>processed in plastic wrap, they will, they will let that through.

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes it will and sometimes it won't. But he told

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 1>me that someone could have some sausage if they cured

0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and may have not went through the proper process. They

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.719
<v Speaker 1>could bring it over here, take it out, eat a

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>sandwich out in LBL, throw it down, and then a

0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 1>hog could come in there it eat it and then

0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>start transmitting swine fleet from that. We had a hog expert,

0:49:16.640 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 1>a hog eradication expert on the show one time on

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 1>this podcast a couple of years ago, and he was

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.720
<v Speaker 1>saying that he don't care about all the big numbers.

0:49:24.840 --> 0:49:27.960
<v Speaker 1>That's not interesting to him. Like the guys that go

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>into an area and they catch two hundred, three hundred,

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>He's like, whatever, you know what he's interested in. He's

0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:37.240
<v Speaker 1>interesting the guy that catches the last one. Yes, exactly.

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>We all are esportunate. Yeah, because because they are vectors

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 1>for a wildlife and vectors for our farming industry. Well,

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:51.919
<v Speaker 1>his point being that the skill set the experts are

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the ones that get like any anybody can do the

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's say you got a hundred catching ninety

0:49:59.719 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 1>seven them whatever. But the guy that he likes is

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:04.879
<v Speaker 1>the guy that can go in and get the last three,

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 1>because that's the hard part. He's the guy. Yeah, that's

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 1>what becomes he is. He is like actually doing an eradicate,

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like thinning back numbers is one thing, but doing like

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>an absolute eradication is a difficult job. I understand that one, yes,

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 1>yes to get the last one the smartest one, and

0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:24.239
<v Speaker 1>hogs are super smart. They are way up there on

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the on the smartness scale. I'm always talking about how

0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm always talking about um, this guy, says Steven episode

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>four one one was bemoaning the lack of clear representation

0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>of hunters by the two major US political parties. Check

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this out. Guess what Australia has for a political party.

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>They have a political party called the Shooters, Fishers and

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Farmers Party. I like that, man, I'm gonna be a

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 1>member of that. I like that. You know what they

0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:56.160
<v Speaker 1>do in Australia, it's weird. You have to vote, compulsory voting.

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>No shit, that's the weirdest thing in the world. Why

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 1>did you make people vote? Why would you want to

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:05.480
<v Speaker 1>dilute your vote? That's what I remember my my civics

0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:08.879
<v Speaker 1>teacher in schools like he was trying to teach his view.

0:51:08.960 --> 0:51:11.839
<v Speaker 1>His name was al de Young, and he was staying

0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:15.440
<v Speaker 1>up in front of the class and he'd say, why

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:18.400
<v Speaker 1>would I be He a lot of the government teachers

0:51:18.440 --> 0:51:21.239
<v Speaker 1>were trying to encourage their kids, that their students to

0:51:21.600 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 1>register to vote. He would say, why would I want

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:27.240
<v Speaker 1>you people to vote? Why would I dilute my vote?

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>And he'd always point his two thumbs at himself and

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:35.560
<v Speaker 1>he'd say, I'm concerned only with what af facts? Al

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:40.040
<v Speaker 1>de Young, and that was his Civics lesson. You don't

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:41.560
<v Speaker 1>want people to vote. He's like, if I had in

0:51:41.640 --> 0:51:44.439
<v Speaker 1>my way, I'd be the only guy that voted. Right,

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.279
<v Speaker 1>they make you vote. I didn't know this till now.

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Either way they have them. Wasn't name of that party?

0:51:53.120 --> 0:51:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Hunter Fishers and Farmers Shooters the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers party.

0:51:58.360 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Here's the problem it only it only pulls point six

0:52:02.600 --> 0:52:06.040
<v Speaker 1>percent of the vote. Over the last twenty five years,

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>they've ranged between point six and one point seven. That

0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:10.800
<v Speaker 1>was the hell of a good year. One point seven

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:17.239
<v Speaker 1>three percent. Huh. He says voting is compulsory in Australia.

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>The listener, which may skew numbers, Let me damn sure

0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:24.280
<v Speaker 1>would skew numbers making everybody vote? What kind of lunacy

0:52:24.480 --> 0:52:27.920
<v Speaker 1>would you get if everybody had to vote? You actually

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:29.360
<v Speaker 1>got a guy that doesn't want to vote, and you

0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>make them go vote. You just got to pull the lever, Like,

0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:35.960
<v Speaker 1>why do you want his opinion? No, I really want

0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:39.400
<v Speaker 1>your opinion. You don't care, you don't know anything, but

0:52:39.400 --> 0:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I really would like to know what you think. I

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:45.800
<v Speaker 1>if that's true that you have to vote. Here's another

0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:48.280
<v Speaker 1>interesting letter that came in. Check out this headline I found.

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>This is an email subject line I found a human

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:56.120
<v Speaker 1>skull while shed hunting. Yeah, that's interesting catches my eye.

0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Podcast listener in Massachusetts, this was out shed hunting, found

0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>an unexpected deadhead. My wife and I managed to buy

0:53:08.560 --> 0:53:14.759
<v Speaker 1>our first house here in Westfield, Massachusetts last October. He's

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 1>only got a little chunk of land, but behind it

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:19.360
<v Speaker 1>as a big track of forest owned by the city,

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 1>White Pine and Wetlands green Space right a ton of

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.720
<v Speaker 1>deer activity. He's been doing a bunch of shed hunting

0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:36.920
<v Speaker 1>at there, went out on a real cold day and

0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:42.319
<v Speaker 1>hunting sheds. Now here's him talking. I've been looking for

0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.799
<v Speaker 1>sheds for about an hour and was starting to loop

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.320
<v Speaker 1>back around in my house and noticed that the largest

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:50.359
<v Speaker 1>section of wetland that I'd yet to muck through was

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:55.120
<v Speaker 1>finally frozen over. I was pretty confident deer had been

0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:57.440
<v Speaker 1>pushing through there, but I hadn't yet strapped up hip

0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>waiters to check it out. I walked on the ice

0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 1>and followed a game trail through the cat tails, and

0:54:03.360 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 1>at about twenty feet I noticed there was a tiny

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 1>island with a small red maple just barely hanging on

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:14.839
<v Speaker 1>in the center. I got onto the island and right

0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:20.400
<v Speaker 1>smack next to the tree was a human skull. Huh,

0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to have that happen to me. It looked deliberate,

0:54:24.719 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 1>how perfectly it was in the center of the small

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:31.680
<v Speaker 1>little sectional land. This man's an excellent does a great

0:54:31.719 --> 0:54:34.760
<v Speaker 1>job explaining this right. Yeah, even nailed the tree species.

0:54:35.920 --> 0:54:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought to myself, Huh, that's some dude's skull, followed

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:42.120
<v Speaker 1>promptly by it. That's gotta be fake. So I flipped

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:44.720
<v Speaker 1>it over with my boot. It was most certainly not fake,

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:50.880
<v Speaker 1>seeing as it still had its fillings on the molars. Wow.

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't typically bring my cell phone out with me

0:54:56.680 --> 0:54:58.439
<v Speaker 1>when out behind my house, so I had to head

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:01.879
<v Speaker 1>back home. At this point, I was pretty asked it

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the deadhead I was looking for, but I already

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:05.879
<v Speaker 1>knew I had a great story to tell my wife.

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I got home, told my wife parentheses pretty shocked, then

0:55:11.840 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 1>called the cops. At this point, it was four thirty PM,

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>five degrees fahrenheit. A lot of details. Yeah. I suggested

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>to the dispatch we'd go out the following morning when

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 1>it'd be light, but that didn't fly. Two cops got

0:55:27.080 --> 0:55:31.040
<v Speaker 1>to my place and I brought him out back. I'll

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>note there's about an eighty foot elevation drop at roughly

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:37.400
<v Speaker 1>forty five degree angle behind my house. This guy is

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:42.440
<v Speaker 1>just made for this kind of thing, playing out. Eighty

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>foot elevation drop, forty five degree pitch. You know what,

0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:50.399
<v Speaker 1>that's a very steep pitch. He might be wrong. I'd

0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 1>love to check that. When I brought them to the spot,

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the lead investigator came to the small island while the

0:55:56.640 --> 0:55:58.720
<v Speaker 1>other state a bit outside. He looked at the school

0:55:58.719 --> 0:56:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and confirmed it was real. Then a second bone caught

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:04.400
<v Speaker 1>my eye. Just under the cops boot. Sticking out of

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the water was a femur. I feel like a dumb

0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 1>ass for this, but I didn't have my phone on

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:12.840
<v Speaker 1>me before and I hadn't gone out to take a

0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 1>picture before the cops arrived, so no picture. I asked

0:56:16.080 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the investigator if I could take a pick after we

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:24.879
<v Speaker 1>found the femur and got a pretty hard no. Still

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:28.399
<v Speaker 1>kicking myself for that one. I spent the next few

0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 1>hours helping some additional cops navigating ATV close to the wetland,

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>then called at night while they stayed out in searched

0:56:33.920 --> 0:56:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the area for a few more hours. The remains ended

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 1>up being from a guy down the road that went

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 1>missing three years back. Apparently he wanted to live off

0:56:42.040 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the grid. I thought I'd be more shocked to find

0:56:50.360 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>human remains, but it made more of a philosophical impact

0:56:53.680 --> 0:57:02.320
<v Speaker 1>than an emotional one. Think about that. Overall, it was

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:16.480
<v Speaker 1>a wicked experience. Here's a good story right for this one. Yep, Kevin,

0:57:16.480 --> 0:57:21.760
<v Speaker 1>as you'll appreciate this one alright. Aggressive squirrels forced Florida

0:57:21.840 --> 0:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>Country Club to consider relocation. These are my kind of squirrels.

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:30.240
<v Speaker 1>On a golf course. Maybe I might want to bring

0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 1>some of them up here and you can, Kentucky. This

0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:38.240
<v Speaker 1>is amazing SETTHEWS says you're good at regional proNT Windermere,

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Windermere Windmere. It's not Windmere wind Windermere Windermere Country Club.

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Is that quote peak playability right now? Unless you count

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the squirrels. The twenty seven hole Naples, Florida Golf Complex

0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is going through quite an ordeal when it comes to

0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>regional wildlife. Squirrels in the area are being nuisances in

0:57:59.160 --> 0:58:01.320
<v Speaker 1>all sort of ways. Is beginning to force the hand

0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>of the Windermere higher ups. They're probing relocation options for

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 1>aggressive squirrels. Yeah, I's never heard of an aggressive squirrel.

0:58:13.440 --> 0:58:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Never heard It's here's a great here's one of my

0:58:16.720 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 1>favorite sentences of my life. We are looking into the

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:23.120
<v Speaker 1>issue to determine the best outcome for both the squirrels

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and our members safety. Oh you know, it's crazy, Candy

0:58:27.760 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>as I literally god man, as if golf couldn't get

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:35.120
<v Speaker 1>any lower, go ahead. I literally just I saw my

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:37.120
<v Speaker 1>phone light up. I literally just picked up my phone.

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.680
<v Speaker 1>My buddy Ben Levy sends an article. It says aggressive

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:44.480
<v Speaker 1>squirrels forcing Florida Country Club to consider relocation. What are

0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the chances he's just send me that article like picture

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:53.120
<v Speaker 1>this man? What kind of person? What kind of first off,

0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I've made my feelings about golf, no one, but I

0:58:57.920 --> 0:59:01.640
<v Speaker 1>mean that you're goal. You can't, you can't, you're scared

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:07.439
<v Speaker 1>to go golfing because the squirrels. You have a golf everything. Well,

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a tweet from a guy in his

0:59:10.440 --> 0:59:17.720
<v Speaker 1>handle as a Naples golf guy. I played the golf

0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.560
<v Speaker 1>course a lot. I would say the squirrels are persistent.

0:59:20.680 --> 0:59:24.360
<v Speaker 1>If you leave open food containers in your cart, they

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:29.240
<v Speaker 1>will help themselves. I love these squirrels. You know what, man,

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that if it goes well, they'll move that

0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:37.240
<v Speaker 1>golf course to another country and Scotland anything they like

0:59:37.280 --> 0:59:41.040
<v Speaker 1>golf over there. Moved to Scotland and and then have

0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>that be a good hunting spot. A golf story about squirrels.

0:59:46.520 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>My uncle Pete or it was my uncle Gary, I

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 1>can't remember which one. Was golfing with my dad and

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a squirrel was about two hundred and fifty yards out

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>running across the fairway and he hit a hit a

0:59:56.800 --> 1:00:00.560
<v Speaker 1>drive and a golf ball flew out there and I'll

1:00:00.560 --> 1:00:06.400
<v Speaker 1>send it hit something in ricochet and uh and then

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<v Speaker 1>he ended up getting that squirrel out in the fairway,

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<v Speaker 1>killed it, HM with a nine urn or what says.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, Steve. If I was a golfer, I

1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>would be so humiliated by this being an issue. No, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>by you needing to like fret about how to handle

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<v Speaker 1>the risk of squirrels while playing golf. Maybe they should

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<v Speaker 1>just have Kevin come in there. They need to get

1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:36.760
<v Speaker 1>him some feral cats. That's what they need. They'll take. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they need to move the golf course to another country.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if we brought those aggressive squirrels up here,

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<v Speaker 1>because you got retreating squirrels here. Yeah, if we braid

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<v Speaker 1>those together, then that should be a state put squirrel Maybe, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. Just bring in some zucker squirrels.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll teach those squirrels how to steer clear. Um. Check

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<v Speaker 1>this out. This is kind of a news episode. You're

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<v Speaker 1>getting us. China trains squirrels to detect drugs. It's reported

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<v Speaker 1>an NPR. Now what I'll say it again? Did I stutter? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't paying at we were making hand signal. China

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<v Speaker 1>trains squirrels to detect drugs. As reported in an NPR,

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<v Speaker 1>a police squad in China claims it's trained squirrels to

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<v Speaker 1>detect drugs. Police sources told local news outlets the squirrels

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<v Speaker 1>keen sense of smell makes them suited for the task.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't been deployed, but news of the rodent troop

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<v Speaker 1>went viral on Chinese social media. Let's be talking about TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the last guy on the planet, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like this whole thing with TikTok and how it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's basically like the Chinese spy balloon in your phone. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>mercer long the Bobcat Tramper has it take Send me

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<v Speaker 1>a TikTok. I can't even watch because I don't have it.

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<v Speaker 1>He sent me a TikTok link. Yeah, he's wondering about

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<v Speaker 1>putting them. He was like, he's asked me. They're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about taking a mixing wild game meat with bacon soda

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<v Speaker 1>and watched TikTok. Can't watch the video? Huh, um Clay,

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<v Speaker 1>he tears a new one on or TikTok. Clay's like

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<v Speaker 1>Joe TikTok. I know, I heard, I've heard of this.

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok has stricter even though it's a spy and like

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<v Speaker 1>spies on you, it has stricter stuff around hunting and firearms,

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<v Speaker 1>really strict hunting and gun rules. You know why, because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't Well, I could go down away conspiracy rabbit hole, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like what kind of people they're trying to draw in?

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to draw in the lambs and not the wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So, but this is very interesting. So a

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<v Speaker 1>police squad in China claims its successfully trained squirrels to

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<v Speaker 1>detect the smell of drugs. This is an interesting part. Please.

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<v Speaker 1>Sources told local news outlets that the squirrel's keen sense

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<v Speaker 1>of smell and you're ready flexibility make them uniquely suited

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<v Speaker 1>for the task. So that spy balloon it what over

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<v Speaker 1>Florida is a dropping spy? Squirrels drop better retrieving aggress

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<v Speaker 1>it with a spar That might be man. They might

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<v Speaker 1>be like, hey, man, when we're done spying on the

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<v Speaker 1>military installations, if we can zap up somebody's aggressive squirrels

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<v Speaker 1>from this golf course in Florida. I'm training them to

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<v Speaker 1>drug sniff squirrels put them back into TikTok squirrel. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw one of those squirrels here sniffing around sets bag.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe Suck has a few that's nutty. No drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>So the trail mix the cheng Quinn city, please, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure I'm mutilating the name choung Quinn City. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a dog brigade. They now have a subunit of

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<v Speaker 1>six squirrels. They have a dog brigade. It must not

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<v Speaker 1>be curs or fee. They're using red squirrel They're using

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<v Speaker 1>red squirrels because the dogs would be after the squirrels, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because they can sniff out drugs and the nooks and

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<v Speaker 1>crannies of warehouses and storage units. Hm. The picture of

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<v Speaker 1>that squirrel that they have looks a little different than

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<v Speaker 1>our red it is, but there's a lot of kind

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<v Speaker 1>of red squirrels. I think red squirrels are basically, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>transpolar do you know, like the blue like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>the blue muscle is transpolar like if you if you

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<v Speaker 1>take ah, that's not the right word for it. Look

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<v Speaker 1>up what the word for it is. If you take

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<v Speaker 1>a latitude band, Okay, there's some species if you like

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<v Speaker 1>the polar bear. For instance, you can take a latitude

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<v Speaker 1>band so it would be zero to whatever latitude and

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<v Speaker 1>run it across the whole planet. That latitude band whole

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<v Speaker 1>holds that species. I believe moose are like this. You

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<v Speaker 1>can take a latitude band in the northern hemisphere and

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<v Speaker 1>and and take that band. So let's say with Moose,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is, thirty to I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what, right, thirty to forty five whatever, and run

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<v Speaker 1>that latitude band around the whole globe, the whole planet.

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<v Speaker 1>They exist in that latitude band. Blue muscles that have

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<v Speaker 1>a latitude band all the way around the planet. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called circumpolar. Circumpolar. Yeah, transpolar is transpolar existing across either

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<v Speaker 1>of the polar regions. You know. Here's another good words

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<v Speaker 1>I learned one day is if if you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you were a kid, you thought if you dug down deep,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd pop out in China at any point on the

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<v Speaker 1>planet if you were to, if you were to burrow

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<v Speaker 1>straight through, so the longest axis through and pop out,

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<v Speaker 1>that's called your antipods. M hm. So you I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you'd like started digging right here Chester and popped out,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd pop out at your antipities. Where would I pop out?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. But once you popped out, you

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<v Speaker 1>this is metaphysical. Once you popped out, you would be

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at your antipities. M that's that's it. Could and

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<v Speaker 1>see what right here? Yeah, it's probably an app. If not,

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<v Speaker 1>we should develop an app called the Antipities app and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll always tell you what your antipities is. Man, we

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<v Speaker 1>got this, We got this tunnel, like, uh, what was

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<v Speaker 1>that movie that I saw where it had that hole

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<v Speaker 1>in it? That Western thing? Did y'all see that? M? No,

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<v Speaker 1>what was that name? It had the guy from uh,

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<v Speaker 1>scratch your beer? Old Country, No country for McCarthy, O man,

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<v Speaker 1>No country for omen? Yeah? Uh you Ellen was the

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<v Speaker 1>like the star guy in the thing. And then any

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<v Speaker 1>hid Luellen? Yeah, lou Allen. This hole that he popped

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<v Speaker 1>out of on his property. It was like going down

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<v Speaker 1>the rabbit hole. YO, didn't see that? That's all the

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<v Speaker 1>movie A bunch of times when no one pops out

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<v Speaker 1>of a hole in the yard. Yeah, that's worth that's

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<v Speaker 1>a new world lou Ellen coming from he come out

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<v Speaker 1>of that hole. I think we'd be somewhere right in

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<v Speaker 1>the Indian Ocean. I don't think he's talking about no

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<v Speaker 1>country for old man now I was talking about But

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<v Speaker 1>there was another that was another series of about I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, eight shows, nine shows, and uh, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interested. That was. I can't remember. I haven't seen that. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids have a great kids book called Sam and

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Dig a Hole. And they dig a hole and

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<v Speaker 1>they dig, dig, dig, dig dig, And what's weird is

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<v Speaker 1>they eventually fall through the other side of the planet

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<v Speaker 1>and they fall through the sky and land in their

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<v Speaker 1>own yard. Because love that book. What's it called Sam

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<v Speaker 1>and Dave Dig a Hole. I think that's what it's called.

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<v Speaker 1>Look up Paduca, Kentucky. I want to know. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they land in their yard, it's a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>If you compare the pictures in the beginning. Some things

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<v Speaker 1>change when they fall from scott they come out, they

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<v Speaker 1>plunge out the other side of earth fall and flop

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<v Speaker 1>right in their own yard and they're fine. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you look, shit's a little different. M So instead of

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<v Speaker 1>reading from left to right, they read from right to left. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these the police and the um oh this goes on.

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<v Speaker 1>I got this more parts of this they have the

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<v Speaker 1>Chong King Seun King Police Department. They have not returned

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<v Speaker 1>m requests for comment on their drug sniffing things. But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing I didn't know about. In two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and two, the Pentagon backed project to use bees to

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<v Speaker 1>detect bombs. Meanwhile, Cambodia has deployed trained rats to help

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<v Speaker 1>bomb disposal squads trall mine fields or buried explosives. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want that job as a rat. Fucking back, as

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<v Speaker 1>a rat, I don't want to do that. So how

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<v Speaker 1>do they use bees to don't know. I haven't read

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<v Speaker 1>up on it, and I'll follow back. That's pretty bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see a rat training them to do feed

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<v Speaker 1>them some C four or something or you know what

1:09:20.040 --> 1:09:24.160
<v Speaker 1>they smell C four. They get a reward. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see trading that, roading that road in mind

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. But a bee is a whole different.

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<v Speaker 1>Associate it with some kind of collen or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't like discipline the b when it does bad. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I was told about some of the you

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<v Speaker 1>roll up a newspaper, you can't hit them a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on the nose. Some of the mountain people that

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<v Speaker 1>I knew. They said to find in the mountains, to

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<v Speaker 1>find a wild colonies to bee, you know, honey. They

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<v Speaker 1>would tie something a thread or something they could see

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<v Speaker 1>on a on a wild honeybee and let it fly

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<v Speaker 1>up and then when it leveled off. They knew that

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<v Speaker 1>there was probably a B tree in that area, and

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<v Speaker 1>used to when I really did a lot of prowling

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<v Speaker 1>and this stuff, I knew were like five or six

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<v Speaker 1>wild b trees were located. Now I only know where

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<v Speaker 1>one is because I would say that. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>prowl around, you know, as much as I used to.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was to me, I'm mark of a woodsman

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<v Speaker 1>where I'd be out prowling around, you know, looking and

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<v Speaker 1>finding a wild B tree. Yeah, it's it's funny you

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<v Speaker 1>bring this up because there's a couple. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad he brought this up. Maybe you could shed

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<v Speaker 1>some light on something for me. There's a Tom Petty

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<v Speaker 1>song in which Tom Petty says, sure, did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>watch that great documentary about Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

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<v Speaker 1>called Running Down a Dream? The first time any of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys were ever west of the Mississippi River is

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<v Speaker 1>when they went to La to try to make it

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<v Speaker 1>as musicians, and they no kidding, phoned a rap of

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<v Speaker 1>paper that had a bunch of record producers names on

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<v Speaker 1>it in a phone booth and started calling those numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a Michigan elbow grease in Florida, people. What was

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<v Speaker 1>I getting that? Oh? There's a Tom Petty song where

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<v Speaker 1>he says I can track a single bee to its hive. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend whose name was Layton, and he

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Montana, and he would as a hobby, he

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<v Speaker 1>would make his own boot wax and he would make it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would he'd make a triblend boot pitch okay, bees wax,

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<v Speaker 1>bear grease, pine pitch okay, equal parts to treat his boots.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd get his own pine pitch. He'd get his own

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<v Speaker 1>bear grease, and he'd get his own bees wax, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would find it. He would make it a hobby

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<v Speaker 1>of his. In the summer, he would go out until

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<v Speaker 1>he saw a honeybee flying, and he'd watch, and he'd

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<v Speaker 1>watched where he couldn't see it anymore, okay, And then

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<v Speaker 1>he'd go stand in that spot and mark it with

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of surveyor's tape, and the next time he

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<v Speaker 1>had time, he'd stand in that spot and he'd wait

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<v Speaker 1>and wait and wait and wait and wait for honeybees

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<v Speaker 1>to come along there, and he'd watch far as it

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<v Speaker 1>would go, mark that spot and hang out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>he used to routinely find wild honeybees that way. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be interesting to know if he figured that out

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<v Speaker 1>on he's his own, or if some warning got told

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<v Speaker 1>him about that. Well, that's why I think he I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say he learned it from Tom Petty,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what. That's what. And when you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Petty, and like all the everybody on the planet

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<v Speaker 1>has heard I can track a single bee to its hive.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wonder how many people have any how many

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<v Speaker 1>people listen to that and they just like hear it

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes through their brain, but they don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>at all what it means. They don't understand, like what

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<v Speaker 1>that level of what he's saying about that level of prowess.

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<v Speaker 1>You brought up No Country for Old Men, and I

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<v Speaker 1>brought this up before. In the end of No Country

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<v Speaker 1>for Old Men, the character is describing a dream and

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<v Speaker 1>he dreams that he and his father are riding horses

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<v Speaker 1>in a blizzard and his father rode ahead carrying a

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<v Speaker 1>horn of fire. No one knows what that shit means.

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<v Speaker 1>If you listen to the show. If you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the show, you know what that means. But like, how

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<v Speaker 1>many things enter your brain from media or whatever, music, art,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just that's the noise it makes when it

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<v Speaker 1>goes through sets head. Its probably sounds like, yeah, most

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<v Speaker 1>most of that feats my head. It's in and out. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I can track a single bee to its hive. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love something. I want to set myself to doing

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<v Speaker 1>that someday. But the thing is now you brought it

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<v Speaker 1>up with like with rampant use of pesticides, changing farm practices,

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<v Speaker 1>colony collapsed this order like we're running out of that

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<v Speaker 1>ship less pollinators, and we got this monol culture of

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<v Speaker 1>seas of soybeans and corn and not any like. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>look milt miltweed that we used to have for the monarchs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a lot of milkweed. I asked him if

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<v Speaker 1>he planted that milkweed. He says, he's, he's he just had,

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<v Speaker 1>he just got and it's coming more and more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>Milkweed here. Yeah, there's I got milkweed pods off a

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<v Speaker 1>Drummond Island, but we'd up that far north. But I've

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<v Speaker 1>been trying to collect. I've got some kids and they've

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<v Speaker 1>sent me some some uhum mit weed pods. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what they was used? Ordering? Uh? W

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<v Speaker 1>W two? I know what I use them? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when checker wouldn't they make them? They're making silk or

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<v Speaker 1>something or no, no, no, I'm wrong about that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what about it, fisherman. What what's y'all's PFDs? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now? What is it made out of? But they

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<v Speaker 1>made they use it as a floatation device for add

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<v Speaker 1>you're kidding me? Nope, I knew the calculations. I did

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<v Speaker 1>some research on it. But they don't only last so

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<v Speaker 1>long they become waterlog But they collected huge amounts of

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<v Speaker 1>for PFDs. For PFDs, yes really, yes, two? Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>learning great stuff, man, that's great. Yeah. What I like

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<v Speaker 1>to do is in my in my FHF vinyl harness

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<v Speaker 1>or is this little kind of like pockey You can't

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<v Speaker 1>really figure out what what you'd put in air? It's

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<v Speaker 1>like for what it's actually for a mouth call. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect size. You put a red call like a

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<v Speaker 1>mouth calling air, and one on each side. It is

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna come out in a thousand years, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just there if you want to grab it out. When

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<v Speaker 1>I see milkweed, I take the milkweed. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>two having like a little night? Do you think about it?

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<v Speaker 1>We have bondedge, we have we have spent three is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get in trouble when he comes to Kentucky. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>all them patches I got on my jacket, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to like call the on me. It's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I need some help. What does my jacket side says?

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<v Speaker 1>All kinds of stuff? This is like a jacket. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks like an old nineteen seventies Harley Rider because he's

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<v Speaker 1>got so many patches sewing on to his hunting coat. Oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>on the FHF Binal harness. There's like these little mouth

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<v Speaker 1>caall things. I like to keep one of those packed

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<v Speaker 1>full with milkweed. Oh, let's say that it's not the

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<v Speaker 1>actual seed, it's the little white stuff. It's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that carries the seed in the wind. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>know what the winds doing? You take you reach in

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<v Speaker 1>there it works, well, throw that up. You gotta just

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be careful because if you take your

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<v Speaker 1>die from turn you call or your elk call, and

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<v Speaker 1>you put it in the wrong pocket with the milkweed,

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<v Speaker 1>you can whip it out and get your mouth full

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<v Speaker 1>of a bunch of milkweed. In Michael Harre's book Dispatches,

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<v Speaker 1>he talks about the lerps, the long range of constance

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<v Speaker 1>patrollers in Vietnam. He talks about how they always kept

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<v Speaker 1>uppers in the right pocket of their tiger suit and

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<v Speaker 1>downers in the left pocket their tiger suit. I do

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<v Speaker 1>like milkweed right, instead having uppers and downers, I do

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<v Speaker 1>milkwed milkweed right, mouth call left. I don't mix them up. Good.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give you guys a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an update here after some research. If you dig a

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<v Speaker 1>hole where we're sitting right now, the whole way through

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<v Speaker 1>the earth, you end up somewhere in between the Indian

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<v Speaker 1>and Southern Ocean, in the water kind of on the south.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be the southwest tip of Australia. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>the Indian Ocean, right. Yeah, funny you mentioned that, because

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<v Speaker 1>when I learned the word antipities, I was reading a

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<v Speaker 1>thing by the writer Ian Frasier, who's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>coming on the podcast soon, and he had written a

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<v Speaker 1>big He was from Ohio, and he talked about like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of towns and all people used to

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<v Speaker 1>be obsessed with the antippities, Like can't in Ohio If

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not, I might be messing parts of this up.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's towns around the country named after what they

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<v Speaker 1>thought their antipities was. Like people used to really be

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<v Speaker 1>into this antippities idea. And there's town's name where they

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<v Speaker 1>had miscalculated what the antippities was and named the town

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<v Speaker 1>after its antippities. So when you're a little kid and

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<v Speaker 1>you're brought up thinking that if you dug through in America,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like dig through and land in China. He wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a whole piece wasn't long, but he wrote a whole

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<v Speaker 1>piece about what the antippities of his hometown in Ohio was.

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<v Speaker 1>And he got into this kind of muck that's like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand feet deep in the ocean, and all this

1:19:02.560 --> 1:19:05.080
<v Speaker 1>information about this muck down there, and like did a

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<v Speaker 1>whole piece about his hometown's antippaities, which which was like

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<v Speaker 1>this primordial muck deep in the ocean. Yeah, and coming

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<v Speaker 1>back to me. Now, anywhere in the United States, the

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<v Speaker 1>antipit Antippaities would be in the in the water in

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean. In the ocean. We should get my deep

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<v Speaker 1>drop reel and go down there and deep drop. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch you dropped down there and catch chester. You see.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see a bait come up. Yeah, the hook with

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<v Speaker 1>tennis in, Chad, dude, big sharp hook and put a

1:19:42.360 --> 1:19:44.240
<v Speaker 1>tennis in on there and lower it down out in

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<v Speaker 1>the Antippities are pretty soon. Liked to be out there

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<v Speaker 1>on his boat and Kane ferry and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden a ten pound piece of lead come shooting up.

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<v Speaker 1>We Uh, we're gonna wrap the show up. I got

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<v Speaker 1>one last thing to say. Uh, we're having a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes day, I learned that I was reading it when

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<v Speaker 1>they shot one of those balloons, those spier it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>not a spy bloom, but the one they shot over

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<v Speaker 1>leak here on right near here. Yeah, the first sidewinder

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<v Speaker 1>missile missed. It missed the balloon. Wow. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about what if you boys been fishing Walwyes and

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<v Speaker 1>got hit by that sidewinder missile Off Lake here on

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<v Speaker 1>what a story. Yeah, I think there's only one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that would happen. Seth and I were both would be

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<v Speaker 1>both looking at our meg alive and see something coming

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<v Speaker 1>towards us. Chris Gill says, if that would have happened,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have got good coverage of it. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>guy doesn't miss the hook set. Well, all right, got Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>you got anything left? You want to add? Special thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to my dog wrangler that helped me on this trip

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<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't have been dog, not your dog wrangler,

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<v Speaker 1>My dog wrangler. Yeah, my dog wrangler. I was like, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>you had a dog named Ler. Yeah, my dog wrangler, Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>That helped me immensely and made this trip more enjoyable. Ut. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>worn out, worn in, worn in, I'm more in man guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, We've got some adventures to do. That's

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. That's for sure. Forward to Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris said he could get us into Burning Man. So

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<v Speaker 1>are you in r out? Yeah? So I think Zucker

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<v Speaker 1>he might be more into your Burning Squirrel Festival in

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<v Speaker 1>Burnie Squirreld. Yeah, we're gonna have that on the Ohio

1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:32.439
<v Speaker 1>River sometime red in June. So yeah, we're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to be river pirates for a weekend. So, um Man,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a wonderful place. You've done a wonderful god

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<v Speaker 1>job of of going to here and making habitat for

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're turkey and a dear guy, but people

1:21:47.000 --> 1:21:51.160
<v Speaker 1>don't understand turkey and dear habitat make great. Small game

1:21:51.240 --> 1:21:55.920
<v Speaker 1>habitat small game to habitat makes great. It's all intermingled

1:21:56.120 --> 1:21:58.000
<v Speaker 1>in there. That's the way I look at it. If

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<v Speaker 1>if you're doing stuff for the rabbits and quail and

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<v Speaker 1>the birds, you're helping them, Darren, the turkeys along briars,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'd say, up everything, it's an amazing I mean

1:22:07.200 --> 1:22:12.000
<v Speaker 1>it's it's an amazing property. So Matt who owns this place,

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the TRCP board of directors. Guy does all

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<v Speaker 1>the wildlife management out here, and you know, goes to

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<v Speaker 1>show like what can be done, what can be done

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<v Speaker 1>on a piece of recreational property with when you're able to,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in a position we're able to just to

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<v Speaker 1>have the I don't want to say the luxuries not

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<v Speaker 1>the right word, but it's part of that, right part

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<v Speaker 1>of that, but also the tenacity, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 1>will to do wildlife work and driving around here. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean there's not a ton of it happening, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean here it's just like and it's it's active control timberwork,

1:22:54.200 --> 1:23:00.160
<v Speaker 1>burning planning. It's like active control bear dirt pollinators. I

1:23:00.240 --> 1:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>saw all the fling plants that you have out there,

1:23:03.040 --> 1:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the bees, the butterflies. The chain of

1:23:07.920 --> 1:23:12.439
<v Speaker 1>nature is here. You've got soul health. That makes plant health,

1:23:12.600 --> 1:23:16.639
<v Speaker 1>but that makes wildlife health. Just what I see going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. No, it's it's it's amazing, man, the amount

1:23:19.160 --> 1:23:21.680
<v Speaker 1>of I mean, just like the bird let everything, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an amazing it's an amazing place. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine if if if we could double quadruple the

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<v Speaker 1>acreage in this country that that was like this, because

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<v Speaker 1>the cats out when it comes to human involvement, like

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<v Speaker 1>the cats out of the bag, Genie's out of the bottle,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to put it. It's like leaving it

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<v Speaker 1>alone is one Like leaving alone is one thing, but

1:23:45.760 --> 1:23:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't leaving it alone at this point, this used

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<v Speaker 1>to all be This used to be old growth white pine. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so in terms of what, um, you know, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more north you here but you know, like

1:24:00.040 --> 1:24:03.280
<v Speaker 1>old growth timber that's not coming back, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, it's like you gotta fight for every

1:24:06.400 --> 1:24:08.240
<v Speaker 1>square inch of it, man. And it's like and that

1:24:08.439 --> 1:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of superactive management just makes incredible wildlife habitat and

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<v Speaker 1>with all the invasives now and stuff, leaving it alone

1:24:15.800 --> 1:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>is just it's a scary thing. And this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the nicest little podcasts setups I've ever been at.

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<v Speaker 1>You We've done a number of I'm sitting right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that fire crackling, yea, a couple of weasels up

1:24:28.320 --> 1:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>above there checking us out stuff. Weasels. Chester has got

1:24:31.120 --> 1:24:35.320
<v Speaker 1>his coz he's on. Yeah. Well, it's it's a privilege

1:24:35.360 --> 1:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to work with Matt and be able to do the

1:24:37.160 --> 1:24:39.800
<v Speaker 1>things that I do. But it's it's constant, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm working for Turkey season and deer season and

1:24:44.360 --> 1:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Turkey season. You know, it's just a constant battle of

1:24:48.040 --> 1:24:50.920
<v Speaker 1>there's never downtime, you know, there's and that's the great

1:24:51.000 --> 1:24:53.920
<v Speaker 1>part about it, you know, being able to see the

1:24:54.000 --> 1:24:55.840
<v Speaker 1>future and what that field to look like. And we

1:24:55.920 --> 1:24:57.240
<v Speaker 1>talked about what we were going to do with that

1:24:57.320 --> 1:24:59.360
<v Speaker 1>field that we walked through and how we were going

1:24:59.439 --> 1:25:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to connect it and I've already got a plan for

1:25:01.280 --> 1:25:03.519
<v Speaker 1>two years from now for that, but I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>let nature catch up to where I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to utilize what it has to do. And the

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<v Speaker 1>lack of roundup that we lose use here and now

1:25:11.520 --> 1:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>we do use it like in our food plots, but

1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, we just we don't use it very much.

1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And we're not fence to fence. We're letting fence to field.

1:25:20.120 --> 1:25:23.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're letting it the briars and the milkweed

1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:26.519
<v Speaker 1>and everything else coming along. And we've seen it the

1:25:26.640 --> 1:25:29.439
<v Speaker 1>last year. It's really taken off. And that took three

1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>years to get there, you know. Yeah, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>when you see if you if you listen to the

1:25:34.800 --> 1:25:37.599
<v Speaker 1>show and you watch on social media of stuff we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see us do the TRCP Raffle turkey hunt,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where we hold that hunt. This will be

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<v Speaker 1>this will be our third year. Yeah, So coming to spring,

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<v Speaker 1>we do our raffle. People. You buy raffle tickets from

1:25:51.080 --> 1:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>five bucks apiece or something like that, and then we

1:25:54.040 --> 1:25:56.960
<v Speaker 1>get lucky winners picked out of that raffle and then

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<v Speaker 1>we host them for a turkey hunt for me in

1:25:58.520 --> 1:26:00.479
<v Speaker 1>Yanas hunt turkeys. This is where we do that. This

1:26:00.560 --> 1:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>is where we do that. And we raised the boatload

1:26:02.200 --> 1:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>of money for TRCP doing that that raffle hunt. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great, that is great. I'm thinking we need to

1:26:08.640 --> 1:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>extend it, man and do a raffle where we do

1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:15.559
<v Speaker 1>a rabbit hunt. I'll be in on that. I'll help God. Oh, Kevin,

1:26:15.880 --> 1:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>that was amazing that those beagles. Steve and I are

1:26:20.600 --> 1:26:23.919
<v Speaker 1>talking about how we gotta get some beagles out in Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but I'm not doing it until Kevin comes

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<v Speaker 1>out with his and does an assessment, like a condition assessment. Yeah,

1:26:33.280 --> 1:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just I'm just worried about the dry like like,

1:26:35.960 --> 1:26:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is how boned are you gonna get by the dry air?

1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:41.439
<v Speaker 1>The dry condition right right? You may have to you know,

1:26:41.640 --> 1:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>a puppy might acclimate right into the thing. Um you know,

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<v Speaker 1>might have tried. But I'll bring the dogs out and

1:26:47.600 --> 1:26:49.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll try that. Just kind of like this morning, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were snowed in ice underneath we had a track

1:26:54.760 --> 1:26:57.559
<v Speaker 1>and snow where we could see rabbits signs the dogs

1:26:57.600 --> 1:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>were hit or miss on the on the rabbits kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get them going kind of lose them and they're

1:27:01.920 --> 1:27:05.280
<v Speaker 1>at end. They were running. One rabbit pretty pretty decent.

1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:07.360
<v Speaker 1>We might have been able to kill it, but in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning we just said, man and I said, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to kill them with the dogs.

1:27:11.880 --> 1:27:14.679
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to push through like we were sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and go through the rough stuff and jump shoot the rabbits.

1:27:18.280 --> 1:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what we did, and we got four rabbits. But man,

1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that day when it was just wet ground, ohow, Yeah,

1:27:24.200 --> 1:27:26.519
<v Speaker 1>the minute those things that day was incredible because the

1:27:26.560 --> 1:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>minute one of those dogs bellard, You're like, that's a

1:27:29.720 --> 1:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>dead rabbit because they're gonna run that thing by three

1:27:32.479 --> 1:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>times they need to. And then and then when that

1:27:35.400 --> 1:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>layer of ice, that layer of frozen rain on the ground,

1:27:38.920 --> 1:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>within that frozen snow on top of that, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just incredible the difference it made. We steth Ball killed

1:27:44.720 --> 1:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>one stepping on it and it ran out, and the

1:27:46.800 --> 1:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>dog could tell that it had where it had been laying,

1:27:49.680 --> 1:27:53.120
<v Speaker 1>but it couldn't pick up its exit out of there. Yes,

1:27:53.560 --> 1:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>because he melted a little pouch right head. It had

1:27:56.280 --> 1:27:59.160
<v Speaker 1>melted there. Yeah, big difference, man, Yeah, that wet soul,

1:27:59.280 --> 1:28:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that rich palectual deposit soul here. It the scent really

1:28:02.960 --> 1:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>stays in when singing conditions are above freezing well, and

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<v Speaker 1>that On that note, I just want to thank you

1:28:10.680 --> 1:28:13.320
<v Speaker 1>for bringing them dogs up here and Steve dreducing me

1:28:13.360 --> 1:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to him because you know it burnt myself out on

1:28:16.080 --> 1:28:17.599
<v Speaker 1>it for so many years and be able to pick

1:28:17.680 --> 1:28:20.120
<v Speaker 1>up a gun and go do that. It was just

1:28:20.360 --> 1:28:22.880
<v Speaker 1>it really meant a lot, and you bore than welcomes

1:28:23.160 --> 1:28:26.439
<v Speaker 1>enjoying myself a mena zucker got burned out on hunting guide,

1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>took it out of explained that yep, and the good

1:28:31.360 --> 1:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Lord give it back to me, and I just I

1:28:34.479 --> 1:28:36.200
<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe it. It was just a really good day,

1:28:36.560 --> 1:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>it really was. And then for you to shoot my

1:28:40.040 --> 1:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>rabbit with my twenties here today and showing me how

1:28:41.920 --> 1:28:43.679
<v Speaker 1>it was done. I'm just put it in the case.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Uh. It was just a really good day,

1:28:47.360 --> 1:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>a really good time, and I'm looking forward to getting

1:28:49.840 --> 1:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>in trouble with you many many times. Burning Man, Squirrel,

1:28:55.280 --> 1:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Burning Squirrel as usual, Kevin Guy, thanks for coming on

1:28:58.880 --> 1:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>the show man, Thank you enjoyed. It won't be the

1:29:01.439 --> 1:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>last time you boys have been on the show. But

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. Thanks for having us money