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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, March tenth.

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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick with NFL media analyst Bucky Brooks. John Osan

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Speaker 1: out this week. He'll be back with us next time

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Speaker 1: on the Huddle Up Podcast, and we have a whole

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Speaker 1: lot to get to today. Urban Myers speaks. It is

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Speaker 1: full recruiting mode right now for the Jags head coach.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into some of his comments. Cam Robinson franchise

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Speaker 1: tagged by the Jags at left tackle. What does that

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Speaker 1: mean for the future. The NFL Hot Stove, if you will,

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Speaker 1: is on. It's here in a big way, a lot

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Speaker 1: of big moves. A week before free agency. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into the Prospect position group top five rankings for Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: This week. It's wide receivers as we recycle the article

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Speaker 1: from NFL dot Com and a couple of social media questions.

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Speaker 1: So we have a lot going on today. Remember to

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Speaker 1: subscribe to the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. And you're probably

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Speaker 1: saying to yourself self, I already am, because I'm listening

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Speaker 1: to this, But you know what, tell somebody else about it, Apple, iTunes, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts, and give us the

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Speaker 1: five star rating. Bucky good Morning one. A few days

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Speaker 1: it's been and it's been an exciting time, and I

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Speaker 1: think to take the queue from Urban mar he said,

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Speaker 1: the next month is going to be an extraordinary opportunity

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Speaker 1: for the Jaguars kind of reshape and remake who they are.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of feel that excitement. I believe as

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Speaker 1: ready for free atency. The draft is a little more

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Speaker 1: how these dominoes kind of stuck up. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: some of Urban's comments coming up. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: other day, I went on Amazon. I don't know I'm

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Speaker 1: allowed to say that, but I went on Amazon and

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Speaker 1: and bought the Urban Meyer above the line. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I'm all about the above the line or below the line.

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Speaker 1: See you know what you got. You got a book

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Speaker 1: on tape. See like basically you read the book, but

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Speaker 1: the mighty JP Shaddick who is always always above the

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Speaker 1: will always be, you know, detractors, people trying to get

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Speaker 1: the amount of money they've had to eat man, the

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Speaker 1: cost to stick the sticker shock of Dak Prescott's deal

431
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Speaker 1: is really crushing you. But I think of it this

432
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Speaker 1: way when I'm looking at the Cowboys, good thing cash

433
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Speaker 1: is king because to be able to pay out sixty

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Speaker 1: six million dollars when Dak Prescott signs his name, and

435
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Speaker 1: to give him seventy five million dollars in year one.

436
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Speaker 1: I mean it makes you pause and take a deep

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Speaker 1: breath to just even think about that, because I don't

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Speaker 1: know about you, j P, but I'm one of those

439
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Speaker 1: guys that does the mobile banking. Can you imagine what

440
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Speaker 1: the direct deposit looks like. I'm when it comes across

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Speaker 1: the screen. Can you imagine waking up and it goes, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I think I'll go buy a car today, do whatever

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Speaker 1: I want today. That's incredible. How excited I get when

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Speaker 1: I see a three deposit I cannot imagine. I can't

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Speaker 1: look like, why are they waiting till Wednesday to like

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Speaker 1: signs that I would be on the first net jet

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Speaker 1: to Dallas. I don't know where he lives, but I'm

448
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Speaker 1: going today. That facts it to me. Whatever if they

449
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Speaker 1: do that anymore, I'll sign it today. Oh my gosh.

450
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Speaker 1: But I mean, so there are a lot of things

451
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Speaker 1: at play as it relates to Jackson and what this

452
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Speaker 1: will mean. I think when you see your team signed

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Speaker 1: this kind of deal, particularly in the pandemic with a

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Speaker 1: flat cap work cap that has been reduced, it means

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Speaker 1: the TV money is eventually going to kick in. And

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Speaker 1: when the TV money kicks in that is going to

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Speaker 1: reset the salary cap space and the amount of money

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Speaker 1: that's allotted for the players. And so even though we're

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Speaker 1: very excited about the Jaguars salary cap space, now imagine

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Speaker 1: if they maybe they don't spend it all. They don't,

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Speaker 1: they don't let the money burn a hold in their pocket,

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Speaker 1: but they save a little bit for the caps that

463
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Speaker 1: are coming next year in the year beyond, maybe they

464
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Speaker 1: can be players for three years in terms of being

465
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Speaker 1: able to acquire big time talent. Well maybe, just maybe,

466
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Speaker 1: Trent and Balky will get asked something like that in

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Speaker 1: the press conference today. He speaks at noon coming up,

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Speaker 1: and we'll try to get in his head a little bit.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Dac will be at the latest when

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Speaker 1: he's back on the market, he'll be thirty one years old.

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Speaker 1: How about that deal? Thirty one years old? But not

472
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Speaker 1: only that, JP, and he's gonna make a hundred and

473
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Speaker 1: twenty six million guaranteed, like a hundred and twenty six guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: and its guaranteed next league year, like the third day

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Speaker 1: is guaranteed against injury protections or whatever. And so everyone

476
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Speaker 1: went crazy over Pat Mahomes. Still he makes more money

477
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Speaker 1: and Pat mahomes in his three years or four years,

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Speaker 1: and then he goes back, He goes back to the

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Speaker 1: to the market again. He wins. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lesson to be learned. There's a lesson bity learned. Like

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Speaker 1: we we certainly hope that Jacksonville has a player that

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Speaker 1: is worthy of the money, but a pay him sooner,

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Speaker 1: Pay him sooner rather than later, because it only goes

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Speaker 1: up and never comes down, especially at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: A few other names in the news this week around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Leonard Williams, Giants defensive lineman. The Giants are

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Speaker 1: gonna franchise tag him. He was a guy we were

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Speaker 1: thinking might get away. I know, already had him sized

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Speaker 1: up until was thinking about Jimmy, let's getting this number

490
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Speaker 1: name playing ready to go. We gotta wipe it off,

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Speaker 1: you know, so pointing he's unavailable. Allen Robinson tagged wide

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Speaker 1: receiver for the Bears. We were hoping for a reunion

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Speaker 1: of swords. No I thought he was gonna be I thought, here,

494
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Speaker 1: gonna at him out the building, because I mean, Chicago

495
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Speaker 1: is to the graveyard, is where wide receivers go to die.

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Speaker 1: There he is. He's back in the grave aard for

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Speaker 1: another for another year. I thought they were gonna let

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Speaker 1: him out the building. Man uh. And then Isaiah Wilson

499
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Speaker 1: traded from the Titans to the Dolphins after one season.

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Speaker 1: What's his deal? He can't get right? JP. He is man.

501
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Speaker 1: He is like the post to child for all the

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Speaker 1: things that you don't want your number one pick to do.

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Speaker 1: Very distracted by the trappings of the NFL lifestyle. We

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Speaker 1: can hope that maybe he can go to Miami and

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Speaker 1: and and fix it. But think of it this way.

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Speaker 1: We always get excited over first round picks and those things.

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Speaker 1: One year after drafting him in the first round, the

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Speaker 1: only thing they can get back swapping seventh round picks.

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Speaker 1: You talk about a man a limon if this was

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Speaker 1: off the car lot, like man, you are so to

511
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Speaker 1: build up goods like that is a tremendous depreciation on

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Speaker 1: the first round asset after one year. One year, incredible,

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Speaker 1: incredible up there. We haven't a look around the hot stove.

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Speaker 1: A lot a lot more going on than that, but

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Speaker 1: just a few notables there and welcome to a new

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Speaker 1: era of Jaguars football. The reload has begun with that

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Speaker 1: coach Urbandmire. Don't miss out on the best seats before

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Speaker 1: they're gone. Locking your tickets for season, place a deposit

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Speaker 1: at Jaguars dot com. And as I as we record

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Speaker 1: this podcast, Bucky, I'm sitting in the press box looking

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Speaker 1: out at t i A A bank field beyond and

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Speaker 1: the sun is rising. We've got beautiful Teal seats everywhere,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like they're going to be packed this year.

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Speaker 1: I like that, Oh, I do like it. There's so

525
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 1: much excitement and buzz around the team this year, and

526
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: then all of the new things that we're talking about,

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00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 1: new coach and Urban Meyer. There's gonna be a new

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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback like the in the building, a return to

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Speaker 1: Teal Teal that's now primary. A lot of excitement, a

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Speaker 1: lot of excitement, and so I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: them kind of collect the town a free agency, do

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Speaker 1: what they're going to do in the draft, and then

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Speaker 1: see him run around on the field all over the

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Speaker 1: course of the summer. Hopefully we're able to do that. Also,

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Speaker 1: give us a subscription or subscribe to the Official Jaguars

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00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: Podcast Network on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, or wherever else you

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Speaker 1: get your pods, and give us a comment in five

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Speaker 1: Stars let's move along now to the weekly recycling of

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Speaker 1: Buckey's article on nfl dot com the top five draft

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Speaker 1: prospects by position. This is apparently version one point oh.

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Speaker 1: When does two point oh come out on this? I

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00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: mean sometimes who who knows? When? I mean the board

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00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: is already done, Like the hard part is done there.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, look a different name and those things.

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00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: But move a couple of guys around. Yeah, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: just tweaking now. But I think what's interesting and rather

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Speaker 1: than talking about one to five, let's talk about one,

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Speaker 1: two and three because I think they're all together. Jamaar Chase,

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00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith, and Jalen Waddle, whatever order you want to

550
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Speaker 1: have them, those are the three guys that you have

551
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: to pay attention to. All of them bring different skills

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Speaker 1: to the table. When I think about Jamar Chase, Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase kind of has a little bit of that anchorin

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00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: bolden Ish type to his game, meaning he's physical, he

555
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: wins the balls, aggressive with the ball in his hands,

556
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: breaks a lot of tackles in space. Then you get

557
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: the jail and Waddle and jam and Waddle to me,

558
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: is the most electric of all the wide receivers. In

559
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Speaker 1: the draft because when he gets his hands on the ball,

560
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: that's when the magic happens. Like he can take the

561
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: distance from anywhere. He has return ability. You can see

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00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: him running reverses and bubble screens and all of those things.

563
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Speaker 1: And it's uncommon to have two guys well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: unless you're Alabama, where you have to people for yourself.

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Speaker 1: They're going to first they're going in the first round,

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Speaker 1: and you're trying to debate who's one A and one B.

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Speaker 1: The first part of the season, Jaalen Waddle is one A.

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Speaker 1: Then he goes out exit stage right, and Lord behold,

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Speaker 1: DeVante Smith decides that he wants to be the best

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and all of college football, win all of

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Speaker 1: the awards, the Blitanic Cough and the Heisman and goes

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Speaker 1: off and when you look at him, a hundred and

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Speaker 1: seventy five pounds, as he's generally generously listed in the

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Speaker 1: media Guide, but he does it, and he does it

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Speaker 1: in fantastic fashion. Any of these guys can play and

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Speaker 1: play at a high level at the next level. It's

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00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: fascinating to think about that trio. So we're talking wide receivers. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase opted out last year at l s U

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Speaker 1: because of whatever. He was getting ready for the draft,

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Speaker 1: but won the bullet into Coffer nineteen. But he just

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Speaker 1: couldn't come out. He's too young. He was a true

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Speaker 1: freshman two years ago or three years ago now and

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Speaker 1: then after soft you have to play three years, so

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Speaker 1: he wasn't available. Where would he was gone had he

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Speaker 1: been eligible last year to go out? Man, he's been

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Speaker 1: right at the top. He'd been writing in that mix.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you think about Justin Jefferson, all those guys. Yeah,

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00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: like he's up there, and you know, like you know,

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Speaker 1: it's funny because I had the conversation with an old

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Speaker 1: wide receiver coach who had been down there just kind

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Speaker 1: of consulting with L s U, and he talked about

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Speaker 1: he was so big on Justin Jefferson, and he said

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Speaker 1: last year, like everyone is looking at mar Chase, but

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you Justin Jefferson is to do. And then

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Speaker 1: I think about Jamar Chase and all the touchdowns that

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Speaker 1: he was able to, you know, as many times he

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Speaker 1: put the ball in the paint, and Justin Jefferson having

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Speaker 1: that I media success. I do believe there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: some that look at Justin Jefferson and say what he

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Speaker 1: had this kind of success, what kind of sets would

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Speaker 1: mar Chase have? Man, that's gonna impact like the draft

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00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: of and because he didn't play and all this suff stuff,

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00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: he's kind of like out of sight, out of mind.

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00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: But we will quickly be reminded how good and how

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Speaker 1: talented he is when as just to step between the lines.

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Speaker 1: Will there be some organizations that shy away from somebody

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Speaker 1: like that who sat out an entire season? You know,

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Speaker 1: I wondered, but this is such a different and unique circumstance. JP.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about guys who didn't play their final season

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Speaker 1: in but dominated in twenty nineteen. We're seeing guys who

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Speaker 1: played not well in twenty nineteen but dominated. We're now

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Speaker 1: getting prospects who are not running forties because they say, well,

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Speaker 1: you can get by GPS measurements off to the Why

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Speaker 1: do I need to go run You already know what

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Speaker 1: I play like in game. It's a it's a unique

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Speaker 1: set of circumstances for scouts is different. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you'd ever go back to the way it was,

618
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: but it's a different time and who no good luck

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Speaker 1: predicting that you know how you see all these games

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Speaker 1: where hey predict to pick and all that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how anybody can predict to pick this year because

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00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: it's so subjective with all the different variables involved in this.

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Speaker 1: I will say, um, we mentioned Jalen Waddle as well Alabama.

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Speaker 1: He entered his ankle in late October, of course, but

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Speaker 1: then came back and fought his way back just to

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Speaker 1: get on the field against Ohio State in the National

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Speaker 1: Championship game. And it just I felt for him because

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00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: he's just noticeably limping through that game. I felt like

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00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: it was just a little too soon. But either he

630
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: wanted to get back Nick Saban wanted him to get back,

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Speaker 1: a combination of both to have an extra something to

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Speaker 1: think about, I think for Ohio State. But I like

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Speaker 1: the fact that he pushed and tried to get out

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Speaker 1: and play at least well. I mean, he speaks to

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Speaker 1: his toughness, um, and toughness is really important. It's probably

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00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: an underlooked, underrated aspect of wide receiver. How tough are

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Speaker 1: you not only just your physical toughness, but your mental toughness.

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00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: Can you bounce back from drops? Can you bounce back

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00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: or can you handle if you're good enough to get

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00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: double team and the ball doesn't head your way for

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Speaker 1: two three quarters, but still can you perform in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I think for Jalen Waddle, what I learned

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Speaker 1: from watching him fight to get back in the championship game, Man,

644
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Speaker 1: he loves it. He loves it because there was no

645
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Speaker 1: incentive outside of playing with his teammates. He was already

646
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: going to be a first round pick. There was no

647
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Speaker 1: real incentive for him to push it to get back.

648
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Speaker 1: Six volumes about how much he loves the game, and

649
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: everybody wants those guys that are guys that love it,

650
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: passionate about the game, want they want to play. They

651
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Speaker 1: want to see how they stack up against elite competitors. Bucky,

652
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Speaker 1: I know you said the top three guys, but if

653
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Speaker 1: you get a phone call or text with a to

654
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Speaker 1: five one area code, lookout, it's probably Cadarius Tony because

655
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Speaker 1: he's fourth on your list and you didn't include in

656
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Speaker 1: your top three. So he went to blunt high school mobile.

657
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Speaker 1: You know, well, you said the top three. You know

658
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Speaker 1: where's Tony is? The next level? He's not quite those guys.

659
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Speaker 1: He's not quite those guys, but he is impactful he

660
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: is an impactful player. He is someone uh you have

661
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: to find a way to get the ball in his hands.

662
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: And when we think of Deebo Samuel Brandon and you

663
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: have two guys that are playing for the San Francisco

664
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Speaker 1: forty nine is right now. Tony is in that category

665
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Speaker 1: where you're just trying to figure out a way to

666
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Speaker 1: get him the ball. Get it to him, however, you

667
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: have to get it to reverse his screens in the rounds,

668
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Speaker 1: make sure he touches it enough where he can have

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Speaker 1: an impact on the game. He'd be a terrific Jaguar.

670
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Speaker 1: I'll just say that because he he he can do

671
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: some fantastic stuff. And you just know Coach Meyer has

672
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Speaker 1: always had those guys around Curtis, Samuel, Parris, Campbell going

673
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Speaker 1: all the way back. He's not the same category as

674
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Speaker 1: Percy Harvin, but he loves having those guys that can

675
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Speaker 1: do it in space. Keepan is talk and urban and

676
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: said that Percy Harvard is probably the best overall player

677
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: that he's coached in college football or the nod to

678
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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow obviously, but Percy was the most explosive and

679
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: that it's really difficult to find anybody like that. But

680
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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you didn't leave Tony off,

681
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: because you know he's right there and you can do

682
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Speaker 1: to five one. I like how you bring up that mobile,

683
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Speaker 1: like I get it. That's right. You've spent a night

684
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Speaker 1: or two a mobile. Oh I've been more many a

685
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Speaker 1: night there, many many of my night down there, and

686
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Speaker 1: you know, um, I missed it this year because I

687
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to get the winches and yeah

688
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: winz tho, sorce your house and get get get get

689
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Speaker 1: my stuff, you know, get my my field of fried

690
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Speaker 1: food since I don't get as much out here like

691
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: I try and get all when I'm in there one

692
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: week and then they got to see me out because

693
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: if not, I'm gonna gorge myself on just all kinds

694
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: of Poe Boys and and all of that. So yeah,

695
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: I know, I know Tony would be mad at me

696
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: for not shouting them out. Well, now you have so

697
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: check out the list on NFL dot com the top

698
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: five prospect rankings for each position group and whenever to

699
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: point Oh comes out, they might just shuffle. We'll get

700
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: to that at some point. The Huddle Up podcast rolls along,

701
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: JP Shadrick Buckey Brooks john Os, you're out this week.

702
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: He'll be back with us next week. And we started

703
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: this segment last week and it went so well that

704
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: we decided, you know what, let's do it again. Let's

705
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: put out the bat signal and go to social media

706
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: and ask for some questions. And we've got a few responses,

707
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: but these are the ones that you know, the cream

708
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: rises to the top. So this is the cream, and

709
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: let's start with Danton Thomas at Danton Thomas. After hearing

710
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Speaker 1: the position groups that Urban believes he should focus on,

711
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Speaker 1: how do you foresee acquisition of the defensive line, speed,

712
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight ends, and secondary For instance, the tight

713
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: end room would be free agency and draft for him,

714
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Speaker 1: and the wide receiver will probably be draft heavy. What

715
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Speaker 1: do you think of those? Yeah, I think he's in line.

716
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: I would expect the defensive line to be a mix,

717
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: but I think he wants some veterans that can play.

718
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: If any elite, top rated veterans came along, I think

719
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: the Jaguars has to be in a conversation because you

720
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: don't have time to wait on those young guys to

721
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: get it to play. We said and watched every Sunday

722
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Speaker 1: the young guys hoping that they could pop and make

723
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Speaker 1: a play. So I'll expect veterans to come in that

724
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: from free agency would be the answer. Speed receiver. I

725
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: think you can find so many wide receivers in the draft,

726
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: it's easier to find those guys. I would look for

727
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: the draft to be the vehicle that they lean on

728
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: to get the speed receiver. And when it comes to

729
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: what was the other thing we got, secondary, we got

730
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Speaker 1: secondary second. Secondary. Secondary is an interesting one because said

731
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of work to come there too. They

732
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Speaker 1: got to really do some work back there the secondary.

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Speaker 1: I think you can get some young guys at corner,

734
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Speaker 1: even at safety. I think you have to supplement that

735
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: though with a little some veterans to kind of show

736
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Speaker 1: those guys along the way. It's gonna be more of

737
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: a developmental program. I think about Chris ash being back

738
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: there some of the stuff like they're trying to teach them.

739
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: They're very familiar and comfortable doing some of the stuff.

740
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Speaker 1: With young guys coming from the college ranks, I would

741
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: expect it to excuw more towards the draft and younger players.

742
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: But I think you may get an older VET that

743
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: will kind of come in there and maybe show those

744
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: guys the way interesting stuff there. Thank you for the question.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, while we're on the top, we

746
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Speaker 1: wenttion tight ends. Are you a Hunter? Are you a

747
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry guy? Are you a John Smith guy? They're

748
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: both going to be available. Hunter Henry gives you a

749
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: little different flavor. He's more of his traditional tight end.

750
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: Can block a little bit, can cash make plays and

751
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: do that. John H. Smith is a playmaker. I wonder

752
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: for Urban if he wants more of a playmaker at

753
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: the position, a seam runner, someone that can kind of

754
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: get down the hashes and make plays in the red zone.

755
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: He score ten touchdowns the last two years in the

756
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: red zone. No drops in the red zone either per PFF.

757
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, so he's interesting. You know, Hunter Henry is

758
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: more than traditional. I think if you've got money to spend,

759
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: I think you go Hunter Henry first. If you can't

760
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: get that, then you look at John new Smith week

761
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: to last year against the Jags. Five targets, four catches,

762
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: eighty four yards, two touchdowns for John NU Smith and

763
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: the Titans win in Nashville. One final question from at

764
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Speaker 1: Magic fan Bin why are the Jags the only team

765
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: using the tag on a non Pro Bowl caliber player

766
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: ensuring continued sub hard play at left tackle that has

767
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: played this team for the past four years. Wow, that's

768
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: that's an aggressive question, Bucky, but aggressive. Okay, what do

769
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Speaker 1: you think? Why you know Cam doesn't have you miss

770
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: a year with any injury and was really not right

771
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: the next year coming back until about he said November

772
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: December of that next season. So why now I think

773
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: we touched on it earlier. Yeah, prioritizing continuity. Uh, he

774
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: might not be the best play at the position that's available,

775
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: but it is a bit of a mix. Did you

776
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: want to get into the big money sweep stakes maybe

777
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: that it would be necessary to get Trent Williams, or

778
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Speaker 1: do you feel better about Cam Robinson the potential with

779
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: also an eye tours. Maybe at the bottom of the

780
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: first round, maybe you draft one, maybe you draft another one.

781
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: This is a one year rental per se and you

782
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: get another one. Because this is a draft early in

783
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: the rounds, there are plenty of offensive tackles that can start,

784
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: So maybe they double up at the position by retaining

785
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: Cam but then eventually getting another guy who could be

786
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: his replacement if it doesn't work out. Done a lot

787
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Speaker 1: so Magic fan, Ben, I don't know when was the

788
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: last time you watched the Magic game, Bucky, I it's

789
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: been a while. I couldn't. I saw the G League team,

790
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: the G League team maybe on TV or whatever, but

791
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: that's that's about it. I haven't. I couldn't tell you, Penny,

792
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: it's been a while. When I was playing, when I

793
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: was playing in Jackson, we used to go down there

794
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: and and watch the games. That's when they were Hey,

795
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: that's when, that's when they were really good, like Shack

796
00:39:54,440 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: and Penny Nick Anderson taking down goals. Yeah, yes, I

797
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: found my Shock rookie card the other week, by the way,

798
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. Yeah, it's not worth much though, it's not.

799
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: That's not that's okay with Skinny Shack, not big check

800
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: that we see on t NT right now. But hey,

801
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: that was the last time. Maybe they'll bring it back.

802
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll just be a renaissance in Central Florida, like maybe, Yeah,

803
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: the Bucks are good now, right, Jags? Just everything up

804
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: that way offense to a time, we're not just depens depends,

805
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, then you have I mean, let

806
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: you tell it. One of the best quarterbacks in this

807
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: draft class from Mac Jones like, oh yeah, that's right,

808
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: Jones representing one of those areas down there way and

809
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: he's from here, so yeah. See there's a lot going

810
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: on in professional sporting here in Florida these days. There

811
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Speaker 1: you have it. Thanks for the social media questions and

812
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: the submissions. I hope we answered sufficiently. I know, Bucky

813
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: did it. Coming up this week, Trent Baulky schedule to

814
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: meet with the media today at noon and we'll get

815
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: in his head about a week away from free agency,

816
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: what he thinks about the tagging of Cam Robinson and

817
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: what the offensive line has done, and and some other

818
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: the moves that are likely ahead the new league year.

819
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Speaker 1: A week away free agency starting on St. Patrick's Day.

820
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Speaker 1: Happy early St. Patrick's Day, Bucky, It's uh the seventeenth

821
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: of March at four pm. And what do you have

822
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: on NFL Network and NFL dot Com this week? Obviously

823
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: not the position Rankings Volume two because you don't know

824
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: what it's coming. But what else do you have? It's

825
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: magic time. It's Pro day season, so we have to

826
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: go too interesting pro days. Let's see, on Thursday we

827
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: have Clemson's Pro Day. But you know, without without the start,

828
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: without the star attraction. So Clemson's pro day is on Thursday,

829
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: and then we have Texas also going that day. That

830
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: day could be interesting because good safety Caden Sterns, have

831
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: some outside pass rushers, some other guys, and in Friday

832
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: get a Chassie Trey Lance North Dakota State throw the

833
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: ball all over the yard a little bit, So I

834
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: should be fun. Is he doing his own He's doing

835
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: his own deals on his own, and he is he

836
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: is the prospect that brought up. Yeah, I'm not running

837
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: to forty. You got my GPS stuff like we gotta

838
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: throw it all over the yard, No need, no need

839
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Speaker 1: for me to get out here and do all the

840
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: three COMA stuff. You can get my my metrics in

841
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: game action. Well there you go. That's all coming up

842
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: this week. And all I know is that Trevor Lawrence,

843
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: I'll throw come on, whatever you want to do, sixty

844
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: and eighty, whatever you want me to run. Yeah, Trevor,

845
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: we just want to put you in Bubba rap and

846
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: make sure you make sure we get you get you here, Yeah,

847
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: no doubt. But remember to subscribe to the Official Jaguars

848
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: Podcast Network. It's on Apple, it Tunes, Spotify, Stitcher, all

849
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: those other ones where you get your podcast. Give us

850
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: five stars and a comment. Buckey, thank you very much.

851
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: We will talk to you again next week. Man, looking

852
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: forward to this so always the best part of my week.

853
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: JP we get together talking about the Jacks, Jaguars football,

854
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: all get ready one. You'll pay for the whole seat,

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Speaker 1: but you'll only need the edge here in dude ball.

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Speaker 1: And we'll see you next time on the Huddle Up Podcast.