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Speaker 1: we go. Let's get this thing running. My name is

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Gorman. This is the Colts Official Podcast, brought to

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Speaker 1: got to talk about a couple of things. It's riding

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Speaker 1: off of the football field for just a second, Folks,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't already, go to your social media sites.

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Speaker 1: Go to the Colts Twitter, go to the Colts Instagram.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to find. Find Mayte calling the Alec Pierce

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Speaker 1: It is a viral video. It's a bunch of fun, Matte.

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Speaker 1: I loved it because it showed the passion that you

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Speaker 1: the street playing at that five seven fifteen just about

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Speaker 1: I hope we do that weekend and week out that

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Speaker 1: fans can watch what you do, bring you into your

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Speaker 1: You know, the Colts video department did a great job

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Speaker 1: because I've been up there plenty of times obviously through

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, folks, it's fascinating to watch the machine

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Speaker 1: All right, let's move on the big picture is this

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Speaker 1: Colts improved a three two and one following the win

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Speaker 1: I thought a game, great game approach by Frank Reikan.

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Speaker 1: He is likely going to be the future. But loved

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Speaker 1: that they were willing to try things out to work

426
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Speaker 1: different things than to explore the possibilities that there were,

427
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Speaker 1: and that you finally found something successful for you know,

428
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Speaker 1: for the passing game. Now what you want to do?

429
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Speaker 1: I mean not just the passing game either, I mean

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Speaker 1: Dion Jackson runs away with the Angry Runs title today

431
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Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football. The scepter is coming to end. Yeah, yes, oh, congrats.

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Speaker 1: That's a good deal. That's a great deal. That is

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Speaker 1: a great deal. You think about that, Dion Jackson, first

434
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Speaker 1: NFL start, you have the touchdown run, you win Angry

435
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Speaker 1: Runs of the Week. You're a huge part of the victory.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely love love that was there in terms

437
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Speaker 1: of the protection that there was for Matt Ryan and

438
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Speaker 1: also the production you got in the run game. Now,

439
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Speaker 1: let's get that same production, and let's get Jonathan Taylor back.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things here that I've been thinking about

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Speaker 1: after this game. So there's all this emphasis on how

442
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Speaker 1: the Colts went up tempo, no huddle against the Jaguars,

443
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 1: which worked. It definitely was a kind of accelerator that

444
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Speaker 1: the Colts are able to step into to kind of

445
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: neutralize Jacksonville's pass rush. But it's not something the Coults

446
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Speaker 1: are going to lean into every week. It's hard to

447
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Speaker 1: do that week to week in the NFL because it

448
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Speaker 1: kind of limits the way you can deploy your personnel.

449
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 1: Frank Reik wants to be multiple and how he uses

450
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Speaker 1: his guys, how he creates mismatches through his personnel. The

451
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Speaker 1: thing that I think is sustainable about this game why

452
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Speaker 1: I'm confident that the Colts offense can keep this going

453
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Speaker 1: going forward. They ran six plays under center in this

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Speaker 1: entire game. Six out of eighty one plays were under center.

455
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Speaker 1: That is easily their lowest total of that this year.

456
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Speaker 1: When you think about coming off that Broncos game, you

457
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Speaker 1: get the extra couple of days with the mini buy

458
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Speaker 1: to kind of reevaluate some stuff and look at where

459
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Speaker 1: you are. I think the Colts of now, I think

460
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Speaker 1: we're going to see them lean into being a shotgun team,

461
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 1: and we saw how that worked. Advantage Jonathan Taylor or disadvantage.

462
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Speaker 1: I think it's an advantage for Jonathan Taylor because Jonathan

463
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Speaker 1: Taylor this year is averaging more yards per carry out

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Speaker 1: of the shotgun they need is under center. So when

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Speaker 1: you come back with Jonathan Taylor, this suits him better.

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Speaker 1: Last year, Jonathan Taylor was better running the ball under center,

467
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Speaker 1: but you also had Jack Doyle, you had Eric Fisher,

468
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Speaker 1: a really solid run blocking left tackle. You know, you

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Speaker 1: had Mark Luinsky, you had an offensive line. Those may

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Speaker 1: be more suited to under center runs. This year, I

471
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Speaker 1: think your personnel may be more suited for shotgun And

472
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Speaker 1: the Colts have kind of maybe figured this out a

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Speaker 1: little bit. You look at their under center snaps. They

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Speaker 1: had thirty in Week one against Houston, they had nine

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Speaker 1: in Week two against Jackson Moble. The only had fifty

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Speaker 1: total snaps in that game, then thirteen, seventeen twenty one

477
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Speaker 1: in the next three weeks, then six in this game.

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Speaker 1: And I think when you just you think about how

479
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Speaker 1: the Colts are tweaking some things, they're trying to find

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Speaker 1: their identity, Like you know, we're going to talk about

481
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Speaker 1: with Tyler Dunn later, where when you just win games

482
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Speaker 1: early in the season, it's good as you try to

483
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Speaker 1: find this identity. And this is something that if the

484
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Speaker 1: Colts look at this and they say, hey, we can

485
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Speaker 1: really lean into being a shotgun oriented offense. That's something

486
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Speaker 1: that it's hard to figure that out without getting into games.

487
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Speaker 1: And I'm interested how this progresses forward now this season.

488
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Speaker 1: But right now it looks like, hey, maybe they found

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Speaker 1: something with the shotgun oriented offense and we're gonna find

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Speaker 1: out what happens. Laura. On the other side, Colts entered

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Speaker 1: the game allowing just three point four yards a Carrie.

492
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Speaker 1: But the Jags, we saw it gouage it out early

493
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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty three yards rushing. Concern No, because

494
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Speaker 1: you beat Jacksonville. You know they had they had been

495
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Speaker 1: looming over you. They shut you out in week two.

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Speaker 1: You know how they like to vary their offense and

497
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Speaker 1: how great of an offensive, you know, group that they

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Speaker 1: have with Doug Peterson and with Press Taylor, and how

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Speaker 1: much variety they like to have within their offense. So

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Speaker 1: I think, to me, you're not going to have that

501
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Speaker 1: each and every week. I know that everyone's gonna point to, oh, man,

502
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Speaker 1: if you can't stop you know, Jacksonville more effectively, what

503
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Speaker 1: are you going to do this week against Derreck Henry?

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Speaker 1: But to me, you know, Jacksonville had been more of

505
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Speaker 1: a problem of late in terms of what you had

506
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Speaker 1: struggled to do in terms of not only containing kind

507
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Speaker 1: of their overall run game, but especially in containing Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: So I think it was to me it was more

509
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Speaker 1: important to somewhat stifle Trevor Lawrence and avoid allowing him

510
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Speaker 1: to fall into a rhythm early. You were gonna have

511
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Speaker 1: some sort of a trade off, right to some degree.

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Speaker 1: So to me, it's gonna vary. You're not going to

513
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Speaker 1: be able to have, you know, allow just three point

514
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Speaker 1: four yards per carry every single week of the NFL season.

515
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Speaker 1: You're gonna have somewhere you give up fewer yards in

516
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Speaker 1: exchange to have more production and be more stout in

517
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Speaker 1: other areas. So yeah, I'm okay with it because you

518
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Speaker 1: looked at two four sacks in the first half, nine

519
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Speaker 1: at TFLs in the entire game. So when you look

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Speaker 1: at those things and compliment to it, I'm okay. If

521
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Speaker 1: I can get four sacks in the first in the

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Speaker 1: first half on a quarterback who is very mobile, who

523
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Speaker 1: has the ability to make plays with his legs, I'm okay.

524
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Speaker 1: The five longest runs of the season against the Colts

525
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Speaker 1: defense have all been by the Jaguars. The Colts do

526
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Speaker 1: not play the Jaguars again this season, but they played

527
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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry this week. Yeah, it's different offense. One hundred

528
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Speaker 1: and sixty five rushing yards per games they've given up

529
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Speaker 1: in the last three games. And I'm going to the

530
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Speaker 1: song the song Flopper on this one. Find me some

531
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Speaker 1: positive in that because they are guy and there's twenty

532
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Speaker 1: ninth in the NFL right now, and they pride themselves.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm stopping a run enter King Henry. I'm just a

534
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Speaker 1: concern factor there. I mean, look, Derrick Henry had a

535
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Speaker 1: very good first half against the Colts in Week four.

536
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Speaker 1: In the second half, he couldn't do anything in situations

537
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Speaker 1: where you kind of knew Tennessee who was going to

538
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Speaker 1: be running the ball with that lead um And the

539
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Speaker 1: Colts have generally done a pretty good job against Derrick

540
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Speaker 1: Henry over the last couple of years. It's kind of

541
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Speaker 1: baked into their mentality. So it was a little bit

542
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Speaker 1: surprising to see Henry have a pretty good first half

543
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Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago. But it's a completely different offense.

544
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Speaker 1: The way that ja Xonville can kind of crease these balls,

545
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Speaker 1: you know, in their run game, you know, you get

546
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: hasty going for sixty one yards when you have a

547
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: loaded box, you have etn going for forty eight yards,

548
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: you have James Robinson the thirty seven yard or in

549
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: week two, Um, you know, Jamal Agnew a completely different

550
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Speaker 1: kind of guy with the ball in his hands. I'm

551
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Speaker 1: not really worried about where the Colts run defense is

552
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: going to be because we've seen what Grover Stewart can do.

553
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: We've seen what DeForrest Buckner can do. Zia Franklin's playing

554
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: out of his mind. E J. Speed is playing out

555
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: of his mind on that side of the ball. Whether

556
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Speaker 1: or not Shaquille Leonard comes back, we'll see. Um. You know,

557
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Speaker 1: the one thing I think I might look at here

558
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Speaker 1: Leonard yesterday, by the way, he's doing well great, well yeah, yeah,

559
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Speaker 1: great to hear that got the brace off of the nose,

560
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: he you know, and everything. So he's healing up really well.

561
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 1: So that's he's feeling great and all the swelling has

562
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Speaker 1: gone down from that surgery to repair the broken nose.

563
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you hope, You're welcome, you hope. The other

564
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Speaker 1: update we get this week is that maybe Quitty pay

565
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: could potentially be back this We keep an eye on

566
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: his practice status Wednesday and especially on Thursday, because if

567
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Speaker 1: the Colts can get him back, he's so important in

568
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,479
Speaker 1: setting the edge against the runs. That would be a

569
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Speaker 1: big addition to the confidence lays we'll see. I think

570
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Speaker 1: you know it's because he practiced twice last week. That's

571
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Speaker 1: probably a good step in the right direction. And if

572
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Speaker 1: i'm if I'm the coltson you're making the decision, all right,

573
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: do we need jt in this game? We can kind

574
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Speaker 1: of really lean into the pass, and we need Jonathan

575
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Speaker 1: Taylor for the rest of the season, for the next

576
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Speaker 1: eleven games, not just for this one game. I get

577
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Speaker 1: it if you say, hey, we want to make sure

578
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Speaker 1: you are as close to top level Jonathan Taylor as

579
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Speaker 1: you can. I think it not only comes down to

580
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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's health. I think it comes down to to

581
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: you're much more confident in your offensive line this week

582
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: than you have been in prior weeks to put him

583
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: out there with what you're getting. I mean, we saw

584
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Speaker 1: it both and I want your input on just real quick,

585
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly, enough to get dramatic here and stuff, said

586
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Speaker 1: to one of the reporter's pull reporters in the locker

587
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: room last week, I came here to play came here

588
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Speaker 1: to play. Came out to the media and say, came

589
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: here to play. I don't know, you tell me it

590
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: came here to play. It wasn't animosity, but it was

591
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: just a little bit of hey, well went on and

592
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: finally we see him get in there and not only that,

593
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: have a hell of an impact. I mean, I you know,

594
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: Frank Croich said the plan was for him to rotate

595
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Speaker 1: with Bernard Ryman, and it wasn't anything that Bernard did.

596
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: It was just, hey, Dennis is playing really well. If

597
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: you look at the last the last snap Bernard played,

598
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: he stood up I think it was Josh. It was

599
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: either Josh Allen or Treyvon Walker. He stood him up

600
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: in pass protection, did a really good job. But then

601
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly comes in and was like, whoa, whoa, this

602
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: guy's playing really well. How can we continue to rotate

603
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: these guys? A couple of things with that, Dennis Kelly's

604
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: time was limited in training camp. Did he have any

605
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: time at all in training camp? I had to have

606
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: a procedure. And I also think that so you were

607
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: in a situation where he had to prove that he

608
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: was healthy and durable and that he was so there

609
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: was that factor of it. Then you also had the

610
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: situation of you'd drafted Bernard Ryman and you would already

611
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: kind of promised that starting role to Matt Pryor, so

612
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: Matt Pryor deserved to get an opportunity there. You had

613
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: to work through some things. There are a number of

614
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: factors leading up to that. But I also commend Dennis

615
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: Kelly for advocating for himself. And yeah, so I think

616
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: there were multiple factors and this was just the good time.

617
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: This was finally timing where Dennis Kelly was a healthy

618
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: enough option for you to prove what he can do

619
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Speaker 1: for this offensive. We've already talked about what Matt Ryan

620
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: means to this offense, and he's getting hot. Ranked second

621
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Speaker 1: in the NFL passing yards to six games. He's now

622
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: led four fourth quarters. We know all this, We've talked

623
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: about it a little bit earlier. That's the hit, that's

624
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: a chart topper. I'm gonna be the bad guy. Good news,

625
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: bad news, You're for this. Colts have lost four straight

626
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: to the Titans, and five of the last six have

627
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: to go down the Nashville Nashville. This weekend, the Titans

628
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: wrecked up three sacks five quarterback Hicks hits and picked

629
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: off Matt Ryan his pass and for three fumbles. Okay

630
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: in their road victory over the Colts. I'm just saying,

631
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: why do they have their number jjam Starting with you,

632
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: I think it starts up front with the way that

633
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: that defensive line has played. You know, Taniko Autry, it's

634
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: like every time he plays the Colts, he he looks

635
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: like I meaner in Donald. But Jeffrey Simmons is a

636
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: really good player too. We know that he's probably on

637
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: an All Pro track in his career. So you really

638
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Speaker 1: got to take care of the interior of that Titans

639
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: defensive line. That's where it starts. And the other thing

640
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: with Tennessee, man, I mean you look at their roster

641
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: coming into this year and you're like, all right, you know,

642
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: you trade AJ Brown, everyone's a year older. You know,

643
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: you've got some pieces there, but you're kind of in

644
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: this transition type year. But you're not a transition year.

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Speaker 1: With Mike Vrabel, who is such a good head coach.

646
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: I have such respect for the mentality that that Titans

647
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: team plays with every single year where you think, yeah,

648
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: they probably shouldn't be that good. They're the number one

649
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: seed in the AFCA. They shouldn't be that good. They're

650
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: leading the AFC South going into week seven. I mean,

651
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: they're a tough, physical team. They always bring it and

652
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: they are They're a challenge for this Colts team. They

653
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: are a physical and schematic challenge that the Cults are

654
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to be up to this. All right, the

655
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: record is what the record is. But let's go back

656
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: to a few games. Okay, down there in twenty beat them.

657
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: You beat the Titans in Nashville in twenty twenty on

658
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: some phenomenal special teams play. That was the TJ Kerry

659
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: EJ speed blocked punt that that became a score. Then

660
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: you go into twenty one. Okay, down there in twenty one,

661
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is playing on two sprained ankles and you

662
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: were still in that game. And then here it was

663
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: a freak play. I mean, Taekwon Lewis interception. We've gone

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Speaker 1: through it all. Then there's that that happens like It's

665
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: not like you've gotten blown out. In these opportunities the

666
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: Colts have been in these contests of late, I think

667
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: that they have just been there as we have come

668
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: to expect with divisional games, it's a battle. It's going

669
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: to be down to the fourth quarter. It's going to

670
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: be a dog fight. There are always going to be

671
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: kind of some wacky, unpredictable things that happen. I do

672
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: have great faith and confidence in the Colts this go round,

673
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: building off you know, two really gritty victories. So I

674
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: like where the Colts are right now. I think they

675
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: are rising. One of the things I've talked to the

676
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: number of the veteran guys in this locker room about

677
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: is that you finally establish who you are as a

678
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: team week five, week six, So that is where this

679
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: team is starting to come to their own. One thing quickly.

680
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: You mentioned the game winning drives, the clutch play of

681
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Here's what I love about those plays, about

682
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: the game winning drives, the way he's elevated the rookies

683
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: in those situations, Gillannie Woods and Alec Pierce. That's what

684
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: makes Matt Ryan so great is it's not just the

685
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: plays that he makes, it's the plays that he elevates

686
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: other guys to make. On this off out. How about that.

687
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean those two guys catching game winning touchdowns in

688
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: the last thirty seconds of two games, and Lara I

689
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: know you've talked to players about this, some of the

690
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: young guys, but they just say when you look at

691
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and you see how calm and collected and

692
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: confident he is in those moments, that just brings you

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00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: up as a player. And you know when Matt Ryan says, hey,

694
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: be in this spot, You're gonna go be in that

695
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: spot because you trust that he knows exactly what he's

696
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: doing in those situations, and you're that's that's a good

697
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: point with Alec and Gilani, where hey, you need to

698
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: go make a play, Go make a play. I can

699
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: do it. The last thing for me is it's also

700
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: a couple of plays before that, when there's the conversation

701
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: on the sidelines and the guys are thinking, Okay, how

702
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: do we play this safe? How do we set up

703
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: All we need is a Fueld goal to win it,

704
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: and Matt's like, no, let's score a touchdown. He's like,

705
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: this is how we're gonna be. We're gonna be aggressive.

706
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Let's go into that. You love that mindset and that

707
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: is infectious across this offense when you have a leader

708
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: like that, because you know Frank Reik's a ballsy play caller.

709
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Then when that's mirrored in your quarterback and then he

710
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: also you know, has the you know, has the production

711
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: and you know has the ability to execute it, then

712
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: that that creates a ripple out. Hey, can can we

713
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: get a quick ranking? Top five things about Alec Pierce's

714
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown. Number one Alec on the play. Number two,

715
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan with the throw. Number three, Matt Taylor's call

716
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: of it that you can watch on cold social media.

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00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: Number one. I thought it was better than the cat.

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00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: Number Casey Valier celebrating it in the background of the video.

719
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: A number five Ryan Kelly and Quinn Nelson picking up

720
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Speaker 1: a stunt. That was fun. That was fun. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that in a minute. But first off,

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Speaker 1: we gotta say hi to Tye Dunn, an incredible book

723
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Speaker 1: out national NFL insider as well and host of the

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Speaker 1: Golong podcast. Also author up a new book, Guys, This

725
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: is Fun, The Blood and Guts How Tight Ends Say Football,

726
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: that is written by ty Dunn. He joins us, Now

727
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: what I love about this? And we're gonna talk the

728
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: state of the Colts in the NFL right now. But

729
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: you're looking back in the years of the greatest position

730
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: arguably on the football field, the tough tight end position.

731
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Speaker 1: But you got a chance to find out a little

732
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: bit about one of our own, and that's Dallas Clark,

733
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Speaker 1: who obviously had magnificent numbers and seasons with Peyton Manning

734
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: let offense. What did you find out about Dallas Clark

735
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: that you liked, ty that he didn't know before you

736
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: talk to him? Well, can you guys carve out about

737
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: five hours on that topic. I mean, Dallas Clark is football,

738
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Speaker 1: Dallas Clark is America. He is everything we love about

739
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: humanity in general. That was you know, I just teld

740
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: you before we we started, that might have been my

741
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: favorite conversation out of all of these that I had

742
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: travel in the country, hanging out with all of these

743
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: tight ends who really saved the sport and it really

744
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: force us to look into the mirror and examine our

745
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: own lives and what we're doing in this world. Dallas

746
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: Clark is at the top of that list. I mean,

747
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: if you want to start at the start, it starts

748
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: with his mother tragically dying in his arms as a

749
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: high school senior right before his graduation, and as he

750
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: put the life can kind of go one of two

751
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: directions there. You can absolutely go into the pits. You

752
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: can absolutely blame God, blame whoever you want. And he

753
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: really did genuinely go that other direction, and in so

754
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: many ways that trauma kind of defined him. And we

755
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: get into it in the book, but everything he went

756
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: through in Iowa, it kind of blows your mind. I mean,

757
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: this is a needle in the in the haystack. This

758
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: is somebody who is to own the campus newspaper at

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00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: six am and Mowen Kinnock Stadium and tearing up the

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00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: patting on the side and covering it up. And I mean,

761
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: I mean he did it all. He was a test

762
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: dummy for a psychology student figuring out why they pick

763
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: red Eminem's and uh, you know, a dentist stry dummy

764
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: for those students because he got the free cleaning. He

765
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: he really paid his way through school. He worked every

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00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: step of the way. It is no coincidence that he

767
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: became Peyton Manning's best friend on and off the field. Really,

768
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean they're pulling pranks on teammates, they're connected for

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00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: just iconic third downs. I think we can all learn

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00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: something from Della and real quick. I just wanted to

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00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: add and just finished the iron Man triathlon there, just

772
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: had a little fun afternoon of about thirteen hours of

773
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: grueling physical On top of everything that Dallas does, he's

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00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: also an iron Man. So well done, well done on

775
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: this book. I can't wait to dive into a tie. Hey.

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00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny is we talked shortly after

777
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: he kind of went through that self describe like midlife crisis.

778
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: He was just kind of figuring out, now, I just

779
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: googling around what do I want to do to try

780
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: to impact the world at Oh, why why not? Let's

781
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: let's do an iron man. Let's try to raise a

782
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: million bucks for a hospital. Let's take this. He is

783
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: what of a kind? You got that right? This is

784
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: the most relentlessly optimistic tight end on the planet. That

785
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: is how your chapter about Dallas Clark starts. Colts fans.

786
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: You can go read that at golongtd dot com. I

787
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: am a loyal subscriber to go along and some of

788
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: the work that Tyler does. It's all fantastic and the

789
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: blood and guts. It's out today. You can go find it.

790
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: You can preorder it on Amazon. You can order it,

791
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: I guess on Amazon now that it's out. Tyler, though,

792
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: when when you're going through this and you're you're looking

793
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: at the history of tight ends in the NFL, and

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00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to dig in to the chapters. You know,

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00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: you have on John macke the great Colts tight end

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00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: from the Baltimore days. What did you learn about how

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00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: this position is evolved from you know, I guess the

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Speaker 1: John Mackey, Mike Ditka era in the sixties to the

799
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski, Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates, Travis Kelsey era that

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00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: it kind of has been since the turn of the millennium.

801
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: Great question, because you know it's it really was created,

802
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: sounded just started from scratch by Mike Dicka and John Mackie.

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00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking those early nineteen sixties is when

804
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: the end, you know, through the thirties, forties, fifties, he

805
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: just kind of called that player an end. And Ernie,

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00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: of course, he's somebody who I'm sure your listeners are

807
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: no well, and he's such a great historian when it

808
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: comes to the Colts and end the whole NFL. As

809
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: he put it, like you had your split end, and

810
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: then you had your end, and then here comes Dicka,

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00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: here comes Mackie. They're able to kind of do this

812
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: two way release off the line of scribbage. Luke John

813
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: Soos was the Bears offensive coordinator. He had the innovation there.

814
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: And with the Colts, I mean, Don Shoola just had

815
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: a vision for this, this hybrid kind of thread out

816
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: of Syracuse. And John Mackey, who played a little running back,

817
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: played a little tight end, but he figured, look, look

818
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: at this dude's size, look at what he can do

819
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: after the catch. We're gonna put him at this. You know,

820
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: this budding position that nobody's seen before. And yeah, you

821
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: catch a short pass and you just run people over that.

822
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: That's basically what that tight end position was with those

823
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: two the belludgeon, they beat the hell out of you.

824
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: It was glorious to watch. It was right when NFL

825
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: films was coming on. So they're almost for kind of

826
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: like superheroes, right, I mean, you put that music with it,

827
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: you put Johnson send his voice with John Mackie, they

828
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: kind of became larger than life. So that's how it starts.

829
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: And then Gus, if you want to fast forward back

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00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: to Clark, I mean I think that he absolutely had

831
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: a role in the evolution where yeah, you know he

832
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: is he six six like Kellen Winslow, this matchup nightmare? No,

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00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: is he going to lower his shoulder and just run

834
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: over you like Jeremy Shocky. No. But all of that,

835
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: that that walk on mentality, as he put that ability

836
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: to want to learn and learn and work at his crap.

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00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean him and Peyton during the off seasons, they

838
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't just work up a chorel route tree to go

839
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: out there and say, okay, what are the two routes

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00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: that we want to just absolutely master and let's work

841
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: on those two routes twenty five times, right, like, let's

842
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: get it till it's absolutely perfect to the centime where

843
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: you want me to be. And that's kind of how

844
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: they spent their off seasons to where all right, you

845
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: stick down as Clark out in the slot. You know

846
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: there's no need to sign a receiver when Brandon Stokely

847
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: goes down in OH six because Clark can handle it

848
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: and you can trust him. On third down, you know

849
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: exactly where he's going to be, and hey, if a

850
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: corner's out there, guess what You're gonna run the ball

851
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: his direction. So that offense, you know that no huddle offense.

852
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: It was there before Clark got there, but it is

853
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: he took it to a new level because now you

854
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: don't have to substitute anybody in. If you want to

855
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: run or pass, you keep him out there, and then

856
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: if a linebacker's over the top, you send him on

857
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: a route. Strong safety, you send him on a route.

858
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, they've worked on that route, you know,

859
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: more times than they can even count. Hey, TI, take

860
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: me back to the start of this. How long have

861
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: you been sitting on this idea and where did the

862
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: idea come from? Why did you want to write this

863
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: in depth of a book about the tight end position.

864
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: I guess it probably comes from the emotion that we

865
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: all felt as football consumers last week again when flags

866
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: are just flying and we're wondering, what in the hell

867
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: is becoming of this NFL? Like that's that's the flag

868
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: that's roughing the passer. I've always been kind of an

869
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: old soul when it comes to football. I haven't played

870
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: it my entire life, watched it my entire life. It's

871
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 1: just been, you know, so ingrained into how I think

872
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: it's just it. I guess that's probably where it starts,

873
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: just seeing where is the game right now and who

874
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: is the player has kind of preserved what we love

875
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 1: about football, And hey, I don't think it's callous to say.

876
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: I mean there's an element of risk when you put

877
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: on the paths and you decide to hit other human beings.

878
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: That's why we watch Look, I mean, the violence is

879
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: a huge reason we all can't take our eyes off

880
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: this product. And until you stick the flags in, until

881
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: you make it touch, I mean, you're gonna have blocking,

882
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna have tackling. And I think that the player

883
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: who does keep that alive more than anybody is the

884
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: tight end because yeah, lineman offensive and defensive, obviously they're

885
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: hitting each other sixty seventy times a game, but the

886
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: tight end is just so freaking fun. I mean, that's

887
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: the player who can still make a play down the

888
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: field and then and dance has brought off in the

889
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: end zone and have personality and preserve that authenticity within

890
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: the game that we love so much. So that's kind

891
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: of what set me off on this cross country tour.

892
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean I hung out with Mike Dicka, Jeremy Shockey,

893
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: Ben Coates, Jackie Smith was unbelievable. I can't wait for

894
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: people to learn more about him beyond the Super Bowls

895
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: drop we all know, and then obviously the Gronks and

896
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: the Kittles and the gonzalez Is. It really was a

897
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: labor love kind of put it lightly. I mean it

898
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: was a passion project. In every second tie. I've talked

899
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: about this a lot, and I got a question. Is

900
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski a first ballot Hall of Famer and considered

901
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,399
Speaker 1: the best to play the position? I know eras change.

902
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: I know we're talking about the Dicks and the Mackis,

903
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: But when it's all said and done, in the new

904
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: era of football, he's Gronkowski considered the best. I think

905
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: he is, right, I really do. I think that this

906
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: is the player who probably you can stick into any era.

907
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: I mean, fifty sixties, seventies, it doesn't matter. I mean

908
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: Rob Grenkowski just has a game that can kind of

909
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: just transport to any era you want. I mean he blocks,

910
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: he I mean he was breaking dude's next without even

911
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,439
Speaker 1: knowing his rookie year. Alvandon Bosch, I mean a crackback block.

912
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: He's he's in college catching a pass down the field.

913
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: Alfonso Jackson for Washington State. You know he's a head

914
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: hunting safety in the in the college ranks, blast into him.

915
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: Gront just kind of wobbles a bit and he's in

916
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: the end zone for a touchdown. What did that hit

917
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: through the Alfonso Jackson, Well, he suffered a concussion and

918
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: it basically ended his career. I mean, this is a

919
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: creature of specimen, unlike anything we've seen. And I think

920
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: that totality of his game is, you know, that's one bucket,

921
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: but then you got the offentity, You've got the personality,

922
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: you've got the fun in which he just brought and

923
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: he where did he bring it? He brought it to

924
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: the Evil Empire, to Bill Belichick, to the New England Patriots.

925
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: You know, we all off these are a bunch of

926
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: robots who can't even think for themselves or have basic

927
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: human emotions, and he brought it back to that. I mean,

928
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: that's where he is. Joe soisiesting around and you know

929
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: he danced his butt off after Super Bowl losses. Um.

930
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: I think that that almost preserves everything we love is football,

931
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: as much as his beautiful belligerence and violence on the

932
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: field that we loved. One other thing for you, tie

933
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: the My favorite part of this passage that you put

934
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: on golong td dot com was about how Dallas Clark

935
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: gained weight, and for all of us normal people reading this,

936
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, wait a minute. He guzzled nt double

937
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: a approved protein shakes that tasted like puddle water and

938
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: pounded two medium sized Totino's party pizzas before bad. This

939
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: is this is insane. How Dallas Clark got up to

940
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: the weight that he was at because he thought you

941
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: had to be a two hundred and seventy five pounder

942
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: to make it as a tight end in the NFL.

943
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: I look at our tight end room here in Indy

944
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: and he got Kyle and Granton who's six two two

945
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: forty and runs like a gazella out there that position.

946
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: For so long, it seems like it was just in line, guys,

947
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: kind of like we were talking about. And now you've

948
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: kind of added this sort of hybrid type tight end

949
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: to the equation. Where do you see this position going

950
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: in the future, now that you've done all this research

951
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: about where it's been in the past. I do think

952
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: that it's still behooves you to have a dude who

953
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: can do it all. And that's why we end the

954
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: whole the whole book with George Kittle and a deep

955
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: dive on him, because it's no slight of Travis Kelsey.

956
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Kelsey's unbelievable and schematically what you can do

957
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: with him, And I mean even outside of the scheme,

958
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean it turns into a game of basketball with

959
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes where they're just kind of freestyling out there.

960
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 1: But I just feel like George Kittle, he might finish

961
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: a game with four catches for forty eight yards, but

962
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: just take a look at how many yards that the

963
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers ran for. They probably ran

964
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: for two seventy that day, and he probably had a

965
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: huge part to do with that. Because if you're such

966
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: a good blocker as you can be dependable, if you

967
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: have that willingness to just stick somebody's face in the

968
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: dirt ten yards down field that Kittle does as he's

969
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: he's laughing in your face and enjoying every second of it,

970
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: that's going to open up the pass game. I mean

971
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: he sees it and he breaks it down and like ally,

972
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm blocking a guy all game long, all of a

973
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 1: sudden he kind of gets a little a little lazy,

974
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of being a cover man and

975
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: forgets that I might just slip behind him and there

976
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: I go for seventy yards. And I do think that

977
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: that's the tight end you still want. Now, the problem

978
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: is that that tight end it's really hard to find.

979
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: I mean, college is you know, the days of us

980
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: talking about spreads and the spread offense. I mean that

981
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: feels antiquated itself. I mean the spread is like on

982
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: steroids at this point where nobody's really deploying this kind

983
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: of tight end, probably because they can't even find him

984
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: in high school really, I mean, you want the athletic streak,

985
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: who's just going to be a matchup nightmare. So I

986
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: still think there's there's college scouts. You know Mark Brune

987
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: in the book as an old school tight end. He's

988
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: a scout for the Steelers. Now he kind of breaks

989
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: it down a well, we're trying to find that guy, right,

990
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: But you almost have to find the willingness of a

991
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: Pat fryar mouth too. You know, maybe he didn't block

992
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: a lot, but he wants to block, and then you

993
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: teach him up, You coach him up, and then you

994
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: have that all around tight end. So I still think

995
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: that's kind of what teams want is somebody who does

996
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: it all yet you know did the extreme. You're not

997
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: You're not going to turn down to Kyle Pitts. I mean,

998
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: if you if you could get this freak show who's

999
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: a matchup nightmare and just throw him out wide like

1000
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: you know, like Cala Winslow back in the day. Yeah,

1001
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: that's that's not a bad place for the tight end

1002
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,240
Speaker 1: position of the year. Oh doubt about it. That's good stuff.

1003
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: Tied downe NFL insider from the Golong Podcast. He's also

1004
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: the author of the new book Blood End Guts, How

1005
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: Tight Ends Say Football. It's available on Amazon right now,

1006
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: just came out today and also wherever books are sold.

1007
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, Ty, I want to talk

1008
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: to you about the cults. You're dialed in on the NFL.

1009
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: As we said all year long, I gotta ask you

1010
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: through six games here, the cults are up and down

1011
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: right three two and one, but they're getting hot here lately.

1012
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: They've won two games in a row through six. Where

1013
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: do you have the Colts right now? Through six games?

1014
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: Where do you have him in terms of the AFC hierarchy?

1015
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: As we're about a quarter and a half through the season. Man,

1016
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, the older you get just kind of covering

1017
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: this league, you just you learn it's good to collect

1018
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: wins this time of year. Right, it might be the

1019
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: ugliest football game we've ever seen them in our damn lives.

1020
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: But if you win that game, nobody's gonna really care

1021
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: or remember. They'll just remember that you won. So I

1022
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: think that's huge for Indy to just kind of collect

1023
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: some of these wins. You know, it might not always

1024
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: be pretty, but they hope they can just figure it out.

1025
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: On offense, you know, you get you get Jonathan Taylor

1026
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: healthy down the road, Matt Matt Ryan starts gaining rapport

1027
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: with receivers around Pittman. The defense is loaded. I think

1028
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: you have studs at every level. And boy, you think

1029
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: the heavens for Stefan Gilmour. He won two the first

1030
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: two games. Where are they with us, Stefan Gilmour, I

1031
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: don't even know. I think that you can still talk

1032
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: yourself into the cold as being a contender, no doubt

1033
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: about it. Because it's a long season. They're in the

1034
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: right division. If you have a quarterback who's who knows

1035
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: what it takes. He's older. But I think this last

1036
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: game gives you some hope that there's still some juice

1037
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: left in Matt Ryan. Yeah, I think that they're in

1038
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: a good position, especially when you look around the league.

1039
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: How many just good teams are there. I don't know

1040
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: three four. It's totally a progress and the cults are

1041
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: absolutely in the mix. One of my favorite details that

1042
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: I've read in something you've wrote, Tie, was when you

1043
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: were up at training camp in Westfield this year, you

1044
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: talked us to find Gilmore, and Gilmore told you that,

1045
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: you know those videos that wide receivers post on Instagram

1046
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: or TikTok of them working on their releases, Well he

1047
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: takes note of that. He's not a big social media guy,

1048
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 1: but he looks at that and he says, oh huh,

1049
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 1: that's how you have that kind of release. I'm gonna

1050
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: make a mental note of that and then beat you

1051
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: on that when I play you later this season. Like

1052
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: those little things that's to find Gilmore is able to do.

1053
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: You mentioned the two plays he made to seal the

1054
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: Colts wins. When you think about where this team can

1055
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: go this season with a guy likes to find Gilmore,

1056
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,720
Speaker 1: with his experiences, level of talent, what kind of confidence

1057
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 1: does that give you in the colts. Oh my god,

1058
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: thanks for bringing that up. Isn't isn't that hilarious? I

1059
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: just love anybody using the narcissism of Generation Z against them.

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00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: You want to go, I'm all about it. I am

1061
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: all about it. Yeah, I love it. I mean I

1062
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: wish you would backfire and like TikTok would just you know,

1063
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: go under as a business because I've got a daughter

1064
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: now who's three, and you know, I'm hoping by you know,

1065
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: ten twelve years that doesn't exist. But I'm gonna agree,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Don't agree more. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I totally forgot. Would you even ask me something about

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Speaker 1: your Yeah? Just how how when you have that that

1069
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: guy who's been a former dpo y, who's won a

1070
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl lockdown corner on your defense, just going forward,

1071
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: what that does for a team, It's huge. I mean

1072
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Speaker 1: I was just thinking of that last night, where you

1073
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: know J C. Jackson gets paid just a ridiculous amount

1074
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: of money and he gets best and this is somebody

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00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: that we all thought was a premier cover corner making

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00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: a ton of plays um and he can't even get

1077
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: on the field. Now. It just goes to show all

1078
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 1: these corners who we kind of think our studs, and

1079
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 1: you know there are the best of the very best

1080
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: in the league. They tend to come and go um

1081
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: they get their money, and they might not be the

1082
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: same player. To find Gilmore, I mean, his consistency of

1083
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: excellence is numbing. I mean, he has been an elite

1084
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: corner his entire career. I covered him here in Buffalo,

1085
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: got to know when I was at the Buffalo News,

1086
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: and he is just I mean, he is absolutely top

1087
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: five players that just kind of learned the game from.

1088
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,959
Speaker 1: In the locker room, he's he's honest, you're not gonna

1089
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: get any ds. He's gonna he's gonna give it to

1090
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: you straight on. You know, the receivers in the corners

1091
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: he respects. Maybe the receivers and corners he doesn't respect.

1092
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 1: And just how he attacks the profession. I think that

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00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: that consistency is why he is still playing the way

1094
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: he's playing. I don't think he's going to slow down

1095
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: anytime soon. And this is somebody who is using his

1096
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: brain at just a different level. I mean, he studies routes,

1097
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: he studies receivers. He's looking at your tiktoks and your

1098
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Speaker 1: Instagrams and knowing what your next move is gonna be. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's the best one ten million money can buy in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. That is Tyler Dunn, author the latest The

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Speaker 1: Blood and Guts How Tight End Say Football and also

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Speaker 1: covers this game day in and day out. Find him

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at TI dune t y d U n

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Speaker 1: n E. A lot of fun. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: dive into this book and also we're gonna have you

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Speaker 1: back on because I want to hear about the stories

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Speaker 1: back in the day when you're getting this book together

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Speaker 1: and you're you're running late for a meet up and

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Speaker 1: you might be in the heartland of Iowa, or you

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Speaker 1: could be out in Baltimore somewhere and you're you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, it's offseason right there. You spilled coffee

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Speaker 1: in the front of your car to get there. That's

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Speaker 1: the stuff that I want because I know you went

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00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: around the states making this thing. How do you make

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Speaker 1: a book? How do you write book? That's a whole

1116
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: other podcast. Incredible, incredible. I don't know the answers. I mean,

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00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: we had our son in July and that it was

1118
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: about Mayhem with our me and my wife, our our

1119
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: pedal is to the metal basically all football. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: so it's a it's a team effort. Man, it really is.

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Speaker 1: Good job by your congratulations, that's great. Say thank you

1122
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: so much. And I really appreciate all the Colts fans

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Speaker 1: out there buying Blood and Guts say, I think you're

1124
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: absolutely gonna love this. The Matthew stuff, the Clark's stuff,

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Speaker 1: all these tight ends, because it's not just football, it

1126
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: really is about life. Really appreciate it and can't wait

1127
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: to find out more about it. Again, the blood end

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Speaker 1: guts is what it is called. How tight ends say football?

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Speaker 1: Tied down, appreciate the time. We'll see you back soon. No,

1130
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Speaker 1: they thank you. Appreciate it. You like football? Follow him

1131
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: at tie down and again, don't forget if you like

1132
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Speaker 1: football again, you're gonna love this book, The Blood and Guts,

1133
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Speaker 1: How tight ends say football. Let's bring us all around

1134
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: now talk about this. We're gonna sit around this campfire

1135
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: time now for the Colts. Twitter mail bag, mate, what

1136
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: do you got? What do you got? JJ? What's over there?

1137
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: This is from Brian de Witt at Brian to Wit

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Speaker 1: eighty six on Twitter. This team is one missed field

1139
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: goal from being a foreign two team team. I feel

1140
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: like we are still in a good spot. But what's

1141
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: the difference between a four and two team versus a three,

1142
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: two and one team. Is a player, coach's confidence, more

1143
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: aggressive play calling, or something else. Oh, by the way,

1144
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: great call may take It's half a game, isn't it. Well,

1145
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: the differences the lead, it's owning the division right now? Well,

1146
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: the differences right And also, hey, the Colts are the

1147
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: seventh seed in the AFC. But I wanted to I

1148
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this because Lara kind of touched

1149
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: on it about talking to players about how you really

1150
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: can start to find your identity in week five or six,

1151
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: second quarter of the season, and yeah, exactly. And think

1152
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: about where the Colts have been in years past. Last

1153
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: year at this point, there were two and four in

1154
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 1: twenty and eighteen, they were one in five in twenty twenty.

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00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: They they were I'm just gonna pull it up real

1156
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: quick in twenty twenty three weeks six in twenty twenty,

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00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, miss heard you go ahead, Um, yeah,

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00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: you're going to nineteen, right, you're going to night. In

1159
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty, the Colts were four and two

1160
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: through this point, so right around the same part. But

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00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: you really you find out who you are in the

1162
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: first five six weeks of the season, and then you

1163
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: lean into that starting in about week six, seven, eight,

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00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: going into the rest of the year. I think the

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00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: Colts have some things they can lean into. They can

1166
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: lean into their their front seven and how they're they're

1167
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: starting to play, you know, getting the four sacks against

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00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. You can lean into some of the shotgun plays,

1169
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: whether it's with the pass or the run on offense.

1170
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: But you can just lean into this mentality of like, hey,

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00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: we got this. We've got veteran guys. We've got Matt Ryan,

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Speaker 1: We've got Stefind Gilmour who have won games for you

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00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: quite literally on both sides of the ball. You've got

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00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: Frank Reich in that steady hand that so many players

1175
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: keep talking about after these games, whether it's a winner

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00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: or loss. This team is in a good position to

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Speaker 1: now that they've started to figure out some things about

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00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: their identity, to lean into it. At three two and one.

1179
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: You are not buried at this point in the season.

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00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: I think one thing for me is Matt pointed it

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00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: out on the radio broadcast. Now through six games, you've

1182
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: led how how money minutes five minutes of the entire

1183
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: season maybe, or why I don't like ninety percent of

1184
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's passes in the second half have been with

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00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: the Colts losing. So I also I also think that

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00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: these have been ugly, gritty, grinded out type of wins,

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00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: and the majority of these situations that you have, you know,

1188
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: had to play from behind. I like where you are.

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00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: I like what you're building on, but now it's time

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00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 1: to actually, like go up score early, score on an

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00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: opening drive. You'll build a two score lead, have an

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Speaker 1: opportunity for your offense to not have to play for behind,

1193
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: and for your defense to be able to get after

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00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: some people when you're forcing people to play on their

1195
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: heels a bit. Yeah, what would it be like to

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00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: not be down by eleven points or seventeen points? To

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00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: your point, layer, I mean the Colts. They've received the

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Speaker 1: opening possession of every game so far this year, and

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Speaker 1: they haven't scored points on their opening drive of a game.

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Speaker 1: What I like is the defense is coming along with

1201
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: the pressure. You know that JJ mentioned the nine tackles

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00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: for loss. This team has a days, very very hard

1203
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: very well, he's coming there. The Colts have eleven sacks

1204
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: in the last three games, and they're spreading that out

1205
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: between guys like Buckner and Lewis and in god there,

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00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's right. He got one last Sunday

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00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: as well, he got one. That one he had Oh

1208
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: my goodness, did he roast Cam Robinson on that play? Wow?

1209
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: Go back and watch it. I mean he's got He's

1210
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: got Cam Robinson and a blender on that. It was incredible.

1211
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 1: I love it. So that that's what's giving me confidence

1212
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: is the defense is starting to put it all together

1213
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: and playing better than just just the fourth quarter or

1214
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: the second half. They're starting to infiltrate their will if

1215
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: you will, in the second quarter as well. You guys

1216
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: hit on it earlier when you're fine tuning an offense

1217
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: like this Ferrari, like all NFL offenses are, and you

1218
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: show you can win different ways. But I'm saying that,

1219
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: and you're starting to fine tune this and you got

1220
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: a guy with fifteen more years under his belt and

1221
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 1: met Ryan. I like that. I like that. That that

1222
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: the way that this thing's building up, that this team

1223
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: starts to hit all strides after week six, after week seven,

1224
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: after week nine, keep getting stronger. But the last thing

1225
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: on this, I just feel like when the Colts took

1226
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: over possession, their defense gives up that you know, eight

1227
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: team play scoring drive for Jackson will take the league.

1228
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: They take over about two and a half minutes to go,

1229
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, Yeah, Colts are gonna win this

1230
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: game because we've seen Matt Ryan do it time and

1231
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: time again now and there's there's no loss of confidence

1232
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: that like, oh, here we go, I gotta go down.

1233
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: It's like, no, like we gotta go down. Matt Ryan's

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00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: gonna go do it. You feel that? All right? Guys?

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00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: Good stuff, Good question Colts Twitter mail bag, JJ, you're

1236
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 1: running that thing for us, and I love the things

1237
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: you put out online to talk about it and you know,

1238
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: get a big feedback on it. So follow JJ at

1239
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: JJ Stanko. It's at Lara Overton at may Take Colts.

1240
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm at hey Gorman. You got any questions about team,

1241
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: you can find out we will answer them. May tell

1242
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: you got a random thought of the week. It's very

1243
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: random because I was watching TV the other day and

1244
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, I saw a promo for Chucky seven or

1245
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: Halloween twenty five with Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeah, Halloween ends, Yeah,

1246
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: Soowe end. So I want to know it really though

1247
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: Lara until three years doesn't really is is she back?

1248
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: Somehow she survived? And Jason's back and he's healthier, and

1249
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: the horse, I mean he is Jason. No, it's Michael Meyers.

1250
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: Michael Myers. Yeah, Jason's the elm Street third. I can't

1251
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: watch so I'm completely But But what I was getting at, though,

1252
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: is Jeffrey, this is a good question for you because

1253
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: you've been in the film industry. I want to know

1254
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: our our child, our child actors and adult movies like

1255
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: our rated movies was Dark Waters. I was wondering, wait,

1256
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: and when I read this, I was like, are you

1257
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: saying adult films? What are we? What are you talking about?

1258
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: What are you watch like rated get your head out

1259
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: of the gut? Or about even pg R in that rate?

1260
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? Even PGR If you got

1261
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 1: a six year old child actor, are they gonna six

1262
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: year PG thirteen, Yeah, that's right. PG thirteen to R

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00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: PG thirteen and up, let's say our child actors in

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Speaker 1: those movies, are they allowed to watch the films? The

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Speaker 1: age of the child. Uh seven, zero chance. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: especially if there's skin in there. They show a little

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Speaker 1: coming out the show my dad drops a filth or fall.

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Speaker 1: You know, just let them watch the scenes that they

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Speaker 1: are in, because isn't it important when you are honing

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Speaker 1: in on your craft. You're right, you need to be

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Speaker 1: able to watch yourself and assess. So at least they

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Speaker 1: should be able to watch the scene they're in, because

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Speaker 1: if they're participating in it, there shouldn't be anything that

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Speaker 1: would be that inappropriate for them to be unless it's

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Speaker 1: a Tarantino film. Yeah. So did you ever work with

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Speaker 1: a child actor? Uh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I worked on

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Speaker 1: stage more than I mean in live theater than I

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Speaker 1: have on when I did, you know, back in the day,

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Speaker 1: even TV commercials. All I worked with kid in a

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Speaker 1: veterinarian commercial. That was fun. And you're just fun because

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Speaker 1: they're all just like you. They're like, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: great and everything. Right, Yeah, that's type of thing. You're

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00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 1: great and you know they're not jaded by Hollywood yet,

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Speaker 1: you know. By the way, D. D. Cohn was French

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Speaker 1: and Greece. Yes, yes, yes, good bull. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there are any child actors in though, Hey listen, they players, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like Trivolta had to be about thirty five, by the way,

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Speaker 1: Like you go back and you watch that, like you

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Speaker 1: can't tell me. Rizzo was, Have you guys ever seen

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Speaker 1: the Netflix show? Never have I ever? No, no, never

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Speaker 1: have I ever? Know? It's a good it's are you go?

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Speaker 1: It's like a good twenty five minute, brainless easy watch. Right,

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Speaker 1: just kind of wind down from the night. Anyway. The

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Speaker 1: point I'm making is it's set in high school, but

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Speaker 1: the main guy character in the show is literally thirty

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Speaker 1: two years old playing a seventeen year old. Really, he's

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Speaker 1: thirty two years old, and they're not trying to disguise

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Speaker 1: it at all. They are they are, and he pulls

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Speaker 1: off a seventeen year old very well, but he's thirty

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Speaker 1: two years old. I sometimes go back and I watched

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Speaker 1: Save by the Bell and I look at Mario lopezs

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01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: Ac Slater, and I was like, how are we buying

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01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: that this guy was supposed to be getting his driver's license? Also,

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01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:55,959
Speaker 1: he looks the same now. It is wild whatever he's

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01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 1: frozen in at night that keeps him preserved that way,

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01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: you know. Paul Rudd, Yes, in fact, he looks younger

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Speaker 1: now he might get better with age all rud definitely does. JJ.

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Speaker 1: You got something that we should know about? A TV

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Speaker 1: show that you were fond of back in the day

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Speaker 1: or are fond of, but you don't tell many people

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Speaker 1: about it? Come on, what is it? A DIY show?

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Speaker 1: You're like cooking cham? I mean and my wife and

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Speaker 1: I are Switzerland when it comes to watching TV. Is

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Speaker 1: the it's either Food Network? We a big guy, fiery guy?

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Speaker 1: Really you look like guy a little bit? No, I don't.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Can we get the Man

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Speaker 1: of Flame? Yes? You know you remind me of because

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Speaker 1: it's the biggest contrast of your hair, you know, and

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Speaker 1: him and oh god, not even close. You're right, you

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Speaker 1: don't look like guy, but I do like him. He's

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Speaker 1: a fun he's great and his cooking shows and his

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Speaker 1: cooking competitions are great on Food Network. Also HDTV love

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Speaker 1: watching you know whatever? You know, like House Hunters, work,

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Speaker 1: Good Bones, my girl? Yeah? Right? Are you like Tucker By?

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Speaker 1: I shoutut to the Hawks who are Colt season ticket

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Speaker 1: holders are steven. If you're watching HGTV, do you I

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Speaker 1: don't really watch HG No? No, no, No, like, honey,

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Speaker 1: why don't we do this? Look at how easy? Oh

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Speaker 1: my god. No, he's more likely to watch HGTV than

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Speaker 1: I am. You know, I'm very one track minded. I'm

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Speaker 1: very predictable. Like you know, if the TV, if if

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Speaker 1: you turn the TV on it it's it's immediate who

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Speaker 1: was watching it prior to like it was either on

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Speaker 1: NFL network or ESPN or like good Morning America. That's

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Speaker 1: what I've been watching. Like anything else, it's Tucker. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's me. We're getting out of here. But I got

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Speaker 1: a random thought of the week for you very quick,

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Speaker 1: because we're getting out. Okay, when do you stop mowing

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Speaker 1: your lawn? This week? Yeah? Not into November? No, this week.

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Speaker 1: Let's pick up leaves, coach, I mean, what are we doing? Well?

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Speaker 1: Leave is a different story. Okay, hold on, no one,

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Speaker 1: have you seen my house? Okay, leaves still January? At

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Speaker 1: what age does young Hayden Taylor have to start mowing

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Speaker 1: the lawn? Oh? Great quote. I started mowing grass when

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Speaker 1: I was about eleven. I was gonna say ten, I

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Speaker 1: figured would be about the appropriate a. Yeah, middle school?

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Speaker 1: Have you your kids pushing the more right? Now? They

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Speaker 1: have little toy mowers that they push around the lawn. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then they yell at me when I don't mow

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Speaker 1: the lawn. But here's it's like it's like too big

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Speaker 1: for the like the grass is too tall for them,

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01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: and they're like, Daddy, mow the law and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: doing it here. The problem is I don't want to

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Speaker 1: give up mowing the lawn. I like mowing, do you

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Speaker 1: guys know? I like yark. I'm weird about I'd never

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Speaker 1: mowed the lawn before until about five riding or pushing, oh, pushing,

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Speaker 1: and so he was showing me how to do because

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Speaker 1: I never did it. And so I start going and

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Speaker 1: I'm like going up and back like he goes, You're

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Speaker 1: not back you mean? And so that he's like, you're

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Speaker 1: never doing and I'm like that's the best way. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the best way. Try something. Just butcher it and

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Speaker 1: I'll never ask you again. Nobody can mow my lawn

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Speaker 1: as good as me. Not true. I'll grab the colch.

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Speaker 1: I'll grab the colch. Grass guy, Troy gun Denny, you

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Speaker 1: go over there and man over there, Darrell over that,

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Speaker 1: and they could eat off your lawn. Matetey, Now you

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Speaker 1: love doing it, but you leave it to the professionals

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Speaker 1: if you probably have better quick Okay doesn't mow his

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Speaker 1: own own own lawn. He does one time he does.

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Speaker 1: He does, soody else doesn't. Hey, you know what you

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Speaker 1: made it when you do that? All right, guys, This

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Speaker 1: is Fun to Coach Official Podcast presented by our friends

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Speaker 1: at win Bet. A couple of quick reminders. We got

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Speaker 1: the Roundtable live Frank Reich recapping the game against the

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Speaker 1: Jags and getting thoughts on former Rick, Ben Tury and

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Speaker 1: Joe Writes on a big win. Daily updates Tuesday through Thursday.

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Speaker 1: You Know It on ninety three five and one oh

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Speaker 1: seven five. Inside Football with the Coach, Rick Ben Turry,

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Speaker 1: Know Your Foe Interview with Joe rex Rod. He covers

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Speaker 1: the Titans case Rex Road. I'm sorry, Live, Sorry Joe, Joe.

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Speaker 1: We'll see in person and apologize. She's Friday Colts Happy

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Speaker 1: Our Jojo Road, Jam v Can Butcher. Another hour on

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Speaker 1: five and Sunday Night. It's a good one. Gaining steam

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Speaker 1: Instant reaction. COLCH Podcast with JJ Stankovitz and Bill Brooks. Hello,

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Speaker 1: you got anything before We say Goodbye. Fantastic interview this

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Speaker 1: week on Colts sixty with Jelanie Woods and if you

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, go back to the director's cut

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Speaker 1: from last this week with stuff on Gilmore where he

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Speaker 1: breaks down that game clinching play in JJ make Me Smarter.

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Speaker 1: I wrote a little bit about Zaire Franklin last week

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Speaker 1: and just how he's kind of come along. But I

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Speaker 1: want to dig into this this week. I want to talk.

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Speaker 1: I want to do a story. I don't see if

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Speaker 1: I can do it. This week's about Tony Brown and

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Speaker 1: Grant Stewart, the two Banshees on Cult Special teams who

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Speaker 1: have consistently made plays for Bubba Ventron's Kickoff cover Brown

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Speaker 1: Track Guy Guy. So he's those two guys. Those two

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Speaker 1: guys have been two of my favorite players to watch

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Speaker 1: a whole season. That is your that's your deep well done.

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Speaker 1: I like it the deep cut. You're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: where they're not on a rolling off her tongue. These

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Speaker 1: kids names with these young players names, but they're so

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Speaker 1: importantly they're two of the most energetic players on the

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Speaker 1: field of mattey. Other than looking forward to cutting your lawn,

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Speaker 1: what do you got anything, just getting ready for a

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Speaker 1: monster game with Jackson. Excuse me for Tennessee. Easy for

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Speaker 1: me to say, geez, where's the schedule here? Mattey might

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Speaker 1: go visit the Old Country Music Hall of Fame right

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Speaker 1: while we're in there. Yeah, there is an exhibit down there. Jeffrey,

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Speaker 1: have you been in the country. Okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: go check it out. I've never been there, but they're

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Speaker 1: long lines, old brother. Yeah, there's an exhibit for like

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Speaker 1: the Eagles in Poco and Linda Ronstead and the Flying

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Speaker 1: Burrito Brothers their contributions for like musical insturmance. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're what they wore on stage, everything like that. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: fun down there. Don't get arrested because it is Nashville,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna come back with any arresting news next

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Speaker 1: week after the Colts take care of the Titans down there.

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Speaker 1: Colts Official Podcast again presented by our friends at wid

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Speaker 1: Bet for Matt Taylor, Larra Overton at JJ Stanko. It's

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Speaker 1: I'm Jeffrey Gorman. We'll talk to you next week as usual.

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Speaker 1: Let's go down there and take care of business. Go Colts.