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Speaker 2: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annick and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that both.

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Speaker 5: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 5: bullshit artists.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Thank y'all for checking back in with us. It is Monday,

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Speaker 6: October eighteenth, twenty twenty one. You have clicked on episode

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Speaker 6: three twenty one of the Anak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Hopefully not by mistake.

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Speaker 6: Right, Hopefully you didn't click on episode three twenty one

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Speaker 6: by mistake.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Ken Flow, how's the fucking back? Huh?

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, it's feeling way way better. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 7: walking more upright as of a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 7: Got a chance to drill a little bit jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 7: So I'm feeling better. Man, We're getting there. Thanks, thank

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Speaker 7: you for asking.

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Speaker 6: All right, I think I might train some jiu jitsu

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Speaker 6: later this week, if you can believe that, Forday, I

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Speaker 6: like it.

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Speaker 3: Years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really because I need to get injured. I

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Speaker 6: have to get out of a future physical challenge, and

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Speaker 6: I know the best way to get injured is to

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Speaker 6: invite Pohomopa over to my house to train some Brazilian

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Speaker 6: jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I'm here.

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Speaker 6: We go, all right, So a lot to get to.

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Speaker 6: This is a vicious cycle for the UFC. Probably the

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Speaker 6: wrong adjective, but live events week after week. I'm leaving

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Speaker 6: for Abu Dhabi in a week. Ken flow is also

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Speaker 6: where are you going? You're going somewhere in a week,

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Speaker 6: aren't you.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to your neck of the woods, man, I'm

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Speaker 7: going to South Florida. We got the finals the championships

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Speaker 7: for p FL coming up, so we'll be over there

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Speaker 7: in Fort Lauderdale, dude, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, hips passing in the night. Is that Is that

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Speaker 6: the cliche?

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Speaker 4: Right? That is our relationship right there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Insentially we got one hug at the residence in before

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Speaker 6: the Ryan hallfight.

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Speaker 4: So all right, so a lot to get to today.

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Speaker 6: We will recap, albeit briefly, what was sort of a

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Speaker 6: listless UFC fight that Lad versus Dumont, if if that's

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Speaker 6: fair to say, some other MMA news and notes as well.

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Speaker 6: We will talk about Andrea Lovsky and Jim Miller and

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Speaker 6: all of that. Ray Long gonna join us imminently off

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Speaker 6: of the TAPA Show. Look at this guy right on

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Speaker 6: the screwis eleven AA Raymond Alongo.

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Speaker 4: Good morning.

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Speaker 8: What's known as being a professional as I have to

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Speaker 8: sit in the backstage listening to you guys how you

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Speaker 8: can't hug each other for another couple of months.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for breaking up that awkwardness, by the way.

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Speaker 8: Yeah right, I think that's I'm like, holy shit, I'm

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Speaker 8: listening to these two guys.

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Speaker 3: Is this actually happening? I gotta hug it.

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Speaker 9: The residents.

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Speaker 4: Got this? Are you done? Are you done?

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Speaker 6: Yourself on camera's sending yourself on camera right out of

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Speaker 3: I need a new setup. I'm not happy, all right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, comb appeared to be working at least on half

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Speaker 3: Good, which yeah, because I is.

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Speaker 4: The other part is just kind of going out and

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Speaker 4: it's going. I don't know where it's.

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Speaker 8: Going, you know, I'm just looking my hands still growing,

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Speaker 8: so whatever happens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 6: So well, thanks for joining us off at the top

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Speaker 6: of the show. Ken Flow doesn't necessarily know this, but

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Speaker 6: we gave Ray the option to join us at twelve

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Speaker 6: thirty pm Eastern today. By the way, we are scheduled

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Speaker 6: of No.

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Speaker 8: I'm so happy after this last weekend of going five

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Speaker 8: and oher on the local circuit. That's right, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 8: just so happy to be because I know John what

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Speaker 8: was he said?

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Speaker 6: My shrip says Team Sarah long ago five and oh

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Speaker 6: locally over the weekend, we're not burying the lady.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know John, you know, last time we

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Speaker 8: worried about me getting a goddamn win.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm ten and oh, since that time, don't

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Speaker 3: ever worry. Hey, he's winning, Buddy.

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Speaker 6: The words in my mouth, motherfucker, since I cut you

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Speaker 6: down and whatever. Unbelievable five and oh for the for

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Speaker 6: the the squad over the weekend.

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Speaker 8: What a night man, I mean, Steve to manager Lee,

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Speaker 8: I mean the guys. Actually now he's at the point

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Speaker 8: where he's taking pictures.

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Speaker 3: You know, he beat his leg.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's actually beat his record of zero pictures,

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Speaker 8: which was his record. Right well, he took like three,

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Speaker 8: and I figured out half of those people thought he

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Speaker 8: was the Korean Zombie. It's actually insane. They don't even

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Speaker 8: not even taking a picture with Stephen Lee's. The guys

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Speaker 8: actually passed themself forth as the Korean Zombie. I think

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Speaker 6: So anyone who listens to this podcast probably wants a

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Speaker 6: picture with miss Lee.

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Speaker 3: Oh at this point, trust me.

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Speaker 6: Your amateur fights correct. But but yeah, A'm way worth keeping.

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Speaker 8: An eye on it, keeps you know what I mean,

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Speaker 8: He's got a great head he works on.

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Speaker 3: What the heck is this? The dogs going?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 4: Kenny and I have kids under four? You don't lucky? Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Is it?

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Speaker 3: Steve Lee? Is that what you're upset about? Buddy? What

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Speaker 8: But no, No, he's an amateur. But I'll tell you

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Speaker 8: a great head for the game helps everybody out.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 8: I think he's a good student in the game, and yeah,

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Speaker 4: How old is he?

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Speaker 3: He is twenty five.

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Speaker 4: I believe Crown a lot of good experience.

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Speaker 6: And anybody else who want to shout out before we

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Speaker 6: get along to the uh?

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Speaker 3: Of course? John? I know you love when I shout

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Speaker 3: out to local people.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 6: I I mean, you paint me in this corner my

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Kenny, you're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna come up to New York. You gotta be careful,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is gonna be not now. John.

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Speaker 8: John is always welcome. He's a he's a made man.

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Speaker 8: That's second. He sets foot in New York.

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Speaker 4: That's not a Long Island native. So that's not get

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Speaker 8: I don't know my best friend Jenny Nadell knocked it

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Speaker 8: out of the Paul Vicious Knockout Dianas. Uh I finally

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Speaker 8: got a win for Hoe, which is nice. She was

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Speaker 3: Uh. Anthony de Lemmy another great performance. Uh.

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Speaker 8: Justin Montalvo was at another location being cornered by Dylan Montello,

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Speaker 8: Aliaquinta and al Jamaine Sterling W thirty three and O

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Speaker 8: three and oh three knockouts. Three body shot, I mean

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Speaker 8: with all body shots, it's wow, he's looking good.

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Speaker 3: You should look at the instagram.

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Speaker 8: You get a little glimpse of some of the stuff

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Speaker 8: that what happened. I'm afraid I'm gonna leave somebody out too.

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Speaker 8: But uh so we had oh and and Na's he

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Speaker 8: won his fight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah right, release the new album I believe over the

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Speaker 6: weekend is well yeah.

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Speaker 8: Exactly, Yeah, it'd be uh It's and jay Z. They're

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Speaker 8: going to be appearing in Colorado a couple of months.

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, you look good, you look lean. Congrats

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Speaker 6: on the five and zero. Very exciting stuff. And I

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Speaker 3: To They loved John, loved the show. They love you

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Speaker 3: and Kenny.

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Speaker 4: Loves ken fl even Cody Wow.

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Speaker 6: So you men, any natell got a knockout, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Norma Dumont did not. Yeah, Andy Hicky Mma on Twitter,

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Speaker 6: Cody Merrow or executive producer, sent me this this morning.

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Speaker 6: Eight female led UFC main events in a row that

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Speaker 6: have gone to a decision and featured zero knockdowns, collectively,

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Speaker 6: Lad Dumont, Hadriguez, Dernrodriguez, Waterson, home Al, Donna Waterson, hill I,

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Speaker 4: Nonetheless, any thoughts on the main event?

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Speaker 8: Ray?

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Speaker 4: Did you watch the UFC headliner?

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Speaker 8: You know, I saw only because I was I was

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Speaker 8: it looked like Dumont looked like she had a really

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Speaker 8: good right hand to me. And I'm just I didn't

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Speaker 8: don't think Lad did much.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not mistaken. It was pretty black that way.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Dumont, you know, is probably in line to fight

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Speaker 6: NOONEZ for the belt at one hundred and forty five pounds.

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Speaker 6: As wild as that may sound to some, she's got

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Speaker 6: only one pro loss, has a pretty good jab can flow. Kenny,

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Speaker 6: you got anything for us on the main event before

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Speaker 6: we dive into what seems to be the big narrative

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Speaker 6: coming out of the event, the corner work in that

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Speaker 6: Lad corner, No, not too much.

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Speaker 7: You know, I saw Norma kind of being the cleaner striker.

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Speaker 7: I think that's kind of the story of the fight.

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Speaker 7: As far as the technicol aspects of the fight. You know,

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Speaker 7: she was out jabbing Aspen from the outside really wasn't

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Speaker 7: allowing her to get to that clitch position very much.

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Speaker 7: And you know, for Aspen, I think the story was

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 6: So, Ray, I don't know how much you've digested as

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Speaker 6: far as what has been said about Jim West in

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Speaker 7: For me, you know, listen, it gets a lot trickier

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Speaker 4: I don't have any problem with what he said.

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Speaker 7: To be honest, if you're talking about someone who's in

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know any of.

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Speaker 7: The specifics of their relationship, right, I'm not going to

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Speaker 4: You can't.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes you can't just kind of oh, would you like

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Speaker 7: you think we're doing out there playing tittley wakes?

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Speaker 4: We're fighting out there, you.

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Speaker 7: Know, Like are we supposed to be tiptoeing around situations?

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Speaker 4: Either you want your fighter to win or you don't.

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Speaker 7: And sometimes you have to get right to the point,

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Speaker 7: there's there's tact and certain fighters are going to respond

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Speaker 7: And I think people are upset about, you know, specifically Misha,

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Speaker 4: What she's dealt with. So and again that's a different story.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, Ken Kenny hit on a lot of good points.

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Speaker 8: You're not really look I think you know, just a

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Speaker 8: She might have had a different relationship with Brian Carroway

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Speaker 8: If it's about himself, then the guy's a complete douchebag.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's about himself.

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Speaker 6: I really thinks he has so champion on his hands

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Speaker 3: Based on that.

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Speaker 8: However that comes out, I don't really give a shit

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Speaker 6: She has to be responsive to it and it has

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Speaker 4: And you could argue that there were some.

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Speaker 6: And again, I mean, there are parallels in all walks

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Speaker 6: I mean, she like didn't want to be there at all.

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Speaker 6: She was favored to win this fight. Go ahead, Kenny, you.

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Speaker 4: Know we can. We can. Let's let's twist it the

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Speaker 7: She goes out there and she gets knocked out, and

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Speaker 4: Out and she's hurt potentially irreparably. Yeah. Sure.

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Speaker 7: And now because she felt good out there and she

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Can we can none of it can know what the

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Speaker 7: And for someone to chime in, even for Misha or whatever,

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Speaker 4: I don't know the dynamic of that relationship.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, And if you want to criticize me

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Speaker 7: And it could just be her, like, you know, it

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Speaker 4: That's the thing.

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Speaker 7: We don't have the opportunity to come back the next

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Speaker 3: You know, listen, man, I think you know.

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Speaker 8: The other thing is I do think Misha is coming

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Speaker 8: I think look, I think it's based on her situation,

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Speaker 8: also that whether it's true or not, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: But I mean, let's let's face.

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Speaker 8: Anybody ever go out with a you ever go out

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Speaker 8: Listening to that, they're disc man, They're just that is

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Speaker 8: my own shit onto this situation. And uh, we'll see

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Speaker 8: what happens. But I'd love to hear from Aspin Ladd

443
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Speaker 8: and I'm going to go back and look at that

444
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Speaker 8: fight just to get a better idea, but might look

445
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Speaker 8: my coaching philosophe you do whatever it takes to get

446
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Speaker 8: that w I don't give a shit what it is.

447
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 8: I don't care what help people think. I don't care

448
00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 8: if they think I'm screaming, they think I'm not giving

449
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 8: technical like the guy doesn't know technical advice.

450
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Speaker 3: Guy's been with me ten years. He knows exactly what

451
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Speaker 3: to do.

452
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Speaker 8: You can remind him, but sometimes you got to get

453
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Speaker 8: up his a and get him to fucking do it.

454
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Speaker 3: That's the problem. So whatever point are.

455
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Speaker 6: Your athletes differently based on their disposition?

456
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Speaker 8: Everybody's different and right, you know, I mean I know

457
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Speaker 8: what different leadership style?

458
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Speaker 6: No, I just think we all respond to different leadership styles. Right,

459
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Speaker 6: I was designing a corner for a fight, you know,

460
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Speaker 6: I respond to the Jim West of the world large

461
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Speaker 6: thinking out.

462
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Speaker 3: I think there is Jill.

463
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Speaker 8: It seems at this point there's nothing wrong with Again, look,

464
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Speaker 8: we're in a social climate where things that you can't

465
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Speaker 8: even you can't mention the words fat, you can't do this,

466
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Speaker 8: you can't do that.

467
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Speaker 3: And this looks like another case.

468
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Speaker 8: Now you're not allowed to talk to your fighter in

469
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Speaker 8: a certain way, you're being condescending. They have a relationship,

470
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Speaker 8: they know exactly what's going on, you know.

471
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Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, Starry to cut out.

472
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Speaker 7: A great example was your was the fight with Morob, Like,

473
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Speaker 7: what would have happened if you told Morob he was

474
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Speaker 7: doing a great job, keep doing what you're doing out

475
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Speaker 7: there in round one and you were being overly nice

476
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Speaker 7: to them like you went there and motivated them and

477
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Speaker 7: obviously switched things around, right, I mean based.

478
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Speaker 8: From literally Tenny, based on a conversation I had with

479
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Speaker 8: him less than twenty four hours ago. I wanted to

480
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Speaker 8: reinforce what we talked about and you know, get him going,

481
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Speaker 8: and he he got. Technically, he said, do you want

482
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Speaker 8: me to keep his standing up? Do you want me

483
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Speaker 8: to take it, you know, take it to no, I

484
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Speaker 8: want you to fake the takedown, to open up the hands,

485
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Speaker 8: to get the takedown again. And he went out and

486
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Speaker 8: did exactly that. So I don't know if you want

487
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Speaker 8: to consider that technical, but I want I know Malan

488
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Speaker 8: didn't want to be on the floor. So it's like

489
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Speaker 8: when you get punched in the bulls, right, anybody even

490
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Speaker 8: goes to flick in the balls, you twitch.

491
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Speaker 3: It all over the place, right, So he don't want

492
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Speaker 3: to be on the floor.

493
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Speaker 8: Let's work off of that. Open up the hands, because

494
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Speaker 8: Morod does have some power. And look what he did.

495
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Speaker 3: He right fake right hand, knocked him down, put him out.

496
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Speaker 8: Everything works out, thank god, right, So, and there's going

497
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Speaker 8: to be times that doesn't work out, but that's the

498
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Speaker 8: fight game.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: Last thing I'll say some have alleged Kenny that I

501
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Speaker 6: have a gender bias when I look in these corners,

502
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Speaker 6: and there may be some truth to that, right, Like,

503
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Speaker 6: I'm trying to be self reflective as I look at

504
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Speaker 6: these situations, and you know, when Ray is lighting up

505
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Speaker 6: morob or maybe it's safe sut. I mean, there's certainly

506
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Speaker 6: times Safe South is one of my best friends in MMA,

507
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Speaker 6: but certainly there are times when he's talking to Damon

508
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Speaker 6: Jackson most recently, I'm like, dude, would a little tact

509
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Speaker 6: fucking kill you?

510
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Speaker 4: You know?

511
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Speaker 6: Like so it's not that I'm always thinking about it

512
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Speaker 6: in but I just did not at all like the

513
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Speaker 6: visuals that I was seeing in the Aspen Lad corner.

514
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Speaker 6: And I wonder if Jim West at one point and said,

515
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Speaker 6: Aspen do you want to be here? Like do you

516
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Speaker 6: want to fight? I wonder if she would have given

517
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Speaker 6: him a response yes or no. You know, I just

518
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Speaker 6: didn't like what I was seeing there. And I'm very

519
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Speaker 6: curious to see Aspen Lad's next fight, obviously because of

520
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Speaker 6: this whole dynamic and everything else.

521
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Speaker 8: And one one more thing, John too is like I like,

522
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Speaker 8: again I got to go back and look at I

523
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Speaker 8: don't want to. I'm just my whole basis here is

524
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Speaker 8: based on what you're telling me sight, but I could

525
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Speaker 8: tell you from what you're telling me.

526
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Speaker 3: I've felt like that a bunch of times.

527
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Speaker 8: In the corner that's not you know, that shit happens

528
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Speaker 8: where you're like, what the fuck are you doing?

529
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Speaker 3: Like why do we even bought the train?

530
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Speaker 4: If you ever corner your wife though, what was it?

531
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Speaker 4: Did you ever corner your wife?

532
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Speaker 3: Though?

533
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Speaker 4: It's a little different, it adds there's a different dynamic.

534
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Speaker 3: Put I've cornered it, but I've cornered it like in

535
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Speaker 3: the bathroom right there, right, that's corner. That's a different corner.

536
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Speaker 4: Sorry, my half cornered my wife room with.

537
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Speaker 3: One of my wife How dare you? Is that a

538
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Speaker 3: little personal?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I guess there's probably a parallel to be

540
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Speaker 6: drawn for Keith Flory and cornering Kenny, right. I think

541
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Speaker 6: when there's blood or a significant other, there's just a

542
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Speaker 6: different a different thing, you know, Like they're holding Keith

543
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Speaker 6: Flory in back. He's trying to get his brother out

544
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Speaker 6: of the sauna so he doesn't perish, right, and they're

545
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Speaker 6: like holding Keith back.

546
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Speaker 4: I mean, is that just an anecdote or did that happen.

547
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Speaker 4: I don't know it, probably did happen.

548
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Speaker 8: Are you?

549
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Speaker 3: Are you jealous of his relationship with his brother?

550
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 4: Am I jealous of his relationship with Keith? Probably? I

551
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 4: mean No'm an identical twins, So I think this.

552
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Speaker 3: Bronce is thicker than I thought it was. This is crazy.

553
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: Thus thieves, ray thieves love?

554
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Speaker 3: What else do you got?

555
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 4: All right? My good friend R. J.

556
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Speaker 6: Clifford, whom you may have heard on Sirius XM, wrote

557
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 6: on Instagram about Jim Miller. It's one thing for low

558
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Speaker 6: damaged grapplers like a Randy Coo tour or Damian Meya

559
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 6: to have long careers. But Jim Miller is an all

560
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Speaker 6: action fighter with dozens of wars to his name and

561
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Speaker 6: still has fifty fights and scorches newbies.

562
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Speaker 4: Just a legend.

563
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Speaker 6: J obviously has a way with words, and Jim Miller

564
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Speaker 6: has twenty two UFC wins Kenny at one hundred and

565
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Speaker 6: fifty five pounds. At least twenty one of those are

566
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Speaker 6: at lightweight. I don't even know if I want to

567
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Speaker 6: have a Hall of Fame conversation or if want to

568
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Speaker 6: have like a Jim Miller appreciation conversation. But to deal

569
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Speaker 6: with the lime disease that put his career in jeopardy

570
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Speaker 6: and to come out the other side and dust a

571
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Speaker 6: dude like this at his age and at this stage

572
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Speaker 6: of his career, All hail New Jersey's Jim Miller here

573
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Speaker 6: on a Monday Ken Flow.

574
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Speaker 7: What he got his durability is just unbelievable, and it

575
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Speaker 7: proves that it certainly is a superpower.

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Speaker 4: He's been around a long time.

577
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Speaker 7: And I think it was you know, one of the

578
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Speaker 7: broadcasters talking about how his goal was to fight at.

579
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Speaker 4: UFC one hundred, UFC two hundred and you have C

580
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Speaker 4: three hundred, I thought bj Pennett UFC one oh one.

581
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Speaker 7: So to put that into context was just like, right,

582
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Speaker 7: Andre pay per views.

583
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable how long he has been fighting.

584
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Speaker 7: And I agree with Arjie the fact that you know,

585
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 7: he is very much a fighter's fighter. He's, uh, he's

586
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Speaker 7: going to try to take you down, but he's also

587
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 7: willing to brawl with you. And you know, it's pretty

588
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Speaker 7: cool to see him go out there and take out

589
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Speaker 7: some new blood. Now, this guy was ry Green, right,

590
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Speaker 7: I mean, he threw a very reckless kick up in

591
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Speaker 7: the air and just kind of charged Jim Miller and

592
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 7: ran into another left hand from Jim that just kind

593
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Speaker 7: of folded him like fresh laundry. But yeah, it's amazing. Man,

594
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 7: Jim is as tough as they come. I have so

595
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Speaker 7: much respect for the dude. He can win in a

596
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Speaker 7: lot of different ways. He's as tough as they come,

597
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Speaker 7: like I said, and yeah, just awesome to see him

598
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Speaker 7: do well. Man, a guy from kind of my generation

599
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 7: right still in there fighting.

600
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Speaker 6: Wow, And we know long ago has a deep rooted

601
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Speaker 6: Northeast bias.

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Speaker 4: So I assume you're a Jim Miller.

603
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Speaker 3: Very let's rephrase that very deep rooted.

604
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean just two words, built tough. I mean

605
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Speaker 8: this guy, dude, that's not easy what he's doing. And

606
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Speaker 8: to me, he is one hundred percent of Hall of

607
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Speaker 8: Famer just for his consistency and his durability. And how

608
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Speaker 8: old could he be now? Because I just saw Frankie

609
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 8: turned forty, which I'm in shock over. Yeah, Frankie Edgar

610
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 8: is forty years old. I mean those guys fort each

611
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 8: other on one of my Ring of Combat shows years ago.

612
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 8: I mean that's crazy. Why forty years old? But this guy, NonStop.

613
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Speaker 8: I think he's a great guy to look at if

614
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 8: you're never going to become a champion. This is the

615
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Speaker 8: route you go. It's just absolutely it's not easy to

616
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 8: do that. They didn't get rid of him or whatever.

617
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 8: So he's always comes to fight, win, to lose, and

618
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 8: then he comes back again.

619
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Speaker 3: He's unbelievable.

620
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Speaker 8: That's not an easy thing to do because people get hurt,

621
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 8: they're ound for a year or two.

622
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Speaker 3: He's twenty two wins in fifty fights. Good luck, man,

623
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: And you.

624
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Speaker 6: Know what's crazy, Ray, I'm sitting next to Ken Flow

625
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 6: in Bristol, Connecticut in two thousand and eight. We're filming

626
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 6: MMA Live, which was a show that we used to

627
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Speaker 6: do way back eight, and we broke the news on

628
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Speaker 6: MMA Live. We probably didn't break it, but we offered

629
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Speaker 6: up the news on MMA Live that Jim Miller and

630
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Speaker 6: his brother Dan had both signed with the UFC. And

631
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Speaker 6: here we are thirteen years later, and he's going to

632
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 6: be a record holder across UFC Annles. I mean Andrea

633
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Speaker 6: Orolovski factors into this conversation because they both won on

634
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Speaker 6: this night. But I think it stands to reason that

635
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 6: Jim Miller is going to retire as the UFC's all

636
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 6: time leader in wins and appearances and it's remarkable.

637
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Speaker 4: How about our Lobsky at forty two right before we

638
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Speaker 4: let yeah, Now.

639
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, Yeah, definitely another.

640
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Speaker 8: I'll say I was one hundred percent rule and I

641
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 8: thought he was finished after the Anthony Johnson fight going

642
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 8: back for you know what I mean, like another guy

643
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 8: that's found a way to just stay in there.

644
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Speaker 3: And win.

645
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 8: It's it's crazy, and he won that fight. I believe

646
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 8: that was the right decision. I think I saw that fight.

647
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Speaker 6: Twenty one UFC wins for our Loobsky and he really

648
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 6: has to fight you with a game plan, a strategic way.

649
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: He didn't sort of.

650
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Speaker 6: Engage Felipe and the type brawl that Felipe probably wanted.

651
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 6: And Uh incredible. Got to feel good for Alosky that show.

652
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 6: Money's pretty good, Ken flahap for Alovsky.

653
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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

654
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Speaker 6: All r right, what else you got before we let

655
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Speaker 6: you fly? We got the darkest brothers out of Philadelphia

656
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 6: coming up here in about three minutes, so.

657
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Speaker 8: Please tell him. I set allow uh to two really

658
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 8: nice guys. I mean I got to spend some time

659
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 8: with uh the heavyweight Christmas Chris really what nice guy?

660
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the cop from Philly. You talk about.

661
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well he fought on Morob's Cardrob and him fought together,

662
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Speaker 8: right us going somewhere, but got to talk to him

663
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Speaker 8: a little be he's just did did look easys Coast

664
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Speaker 8: guys have built different Keny. No, they just think whatever,

665
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 8: whatever is missing on the talent side, it's just made

666
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 8: up twentyfold on the hard side.

667
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: It's just the way it is. This kid, he's knocking

668
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: to cover off the ball.

669
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Speaker 8: This guy, yeah, it's I wish him to wish him

670
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Speaker 8: the best. But uh, before that, let me just touch up.

671
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 8: I got uh one of people fighting in the Ring

672
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 8: of Combat this week. So Dylan Montello's fighting for a title,

673
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 8: James Gonzalez defending his title. I believe Dennis Bazooka, Lauren Bracia. Uh,

674
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Speaker 8: oh mean, come on, who will So Damian Nelson.

675
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 4: You gonna forget fucking Damian Nelson.

676
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: Look for that guy man great for.

677
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: You're going to.

678
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Speaker 6: List all those names and forget Damian Nelson is all

679
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Speaker 6: I'm wondering.

680
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Speaker 3: And the lone wolf I believe hungry wolf, some sort.

681
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 4: Of Tresano is the lone wolf.

682
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: Oh yes, maybe this guy's uh it's like a pack wolf.

683
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: I think, Hey, I'm blocking on this Christian alka sorry Christian.

684
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: All right, I think I got everybody Christian.

685
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: You listen to the Anakin Flooring podcast this guy Butcher

686
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 6: your name fifty thousand listens.

687
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 8: I'm really horrible with names, and you could you could

688
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 8: call me anything you want, really seriously, I wouldn't.

689
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: Just don't you know what?

690
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 4: There you go, Hey, just no the non English, non

691
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: Italian names.

692
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Speaker 3: You don't know? Good.

693
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: Hey, I arrive.

694
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Speaker 6: I arrive in New York City on Halloween, so I'm

695
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 6: gonna be there for like eight nights, so hopefully we

696
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 6: can uh.

697
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: Come on, you know, wow, I know, I know, love it.

698
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 6: Why don't you from.

699
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 4: New York straight to New York?

700
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's your bucket list in New York? What do

701
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: you want to know?

702
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 6: Well, my only on this item in New York is

703
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 6: to actually go to the US Open Flushing Medals. It's

704
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 6: not happening right now. No, I mean I love seeing

705
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 6: seeing Broadway shows. I think I would like to see

706
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 6: Hamilton at one at one point. Uh, what's the best

707
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 6: slight slice of pizza in New York?

708
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 8: We're gonna think about that. We got we got some connections, though,

709
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 8: I think we're doing something nice. Wear a bulletproof vest.

710
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 8: I think that's recommended.

711
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 6: Your daughter's still thicker street now those days.

712
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: No, definitely not.

713
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 8: You know, I tell you I was at the US

714
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 8: Open probably like seven years in a row. What a

715
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 8: beautiful stadium, Author rash is beautiful.

716
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 4: That's just under the light.

717
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 6: Because I grew up just staying up late in summer

718
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 6: watching Andre Agassy and Pete Sampress and everybody else.

719
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 8: Those were the years I was going to the UH

720
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 8: to the Open Pete san.

721
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 6: To the surprise of many, my bucket list sporting event

722
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 6: is is a nighttime match at the US Open. Oh

723
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 6: Man wish Sampress was still playing campflos like a root

724
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 6: against that guy.

725
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 4: You know. All right, Ray, Uh, great day, better evening.

726
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 6: We'll talk to you. We'll talk to you on Sunday.

727
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 6: If you can squeeze us in. We have a special

728
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 6: Sunday show next week because the show because we got

729
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: we got some of a Kemp traveling and I'm going

730
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 6: to Abu Dabi, so we're trying to get it in

731
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 6: next Sunday. So since you don't watch the NFL, maybe

732
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 6: you can squeeze us in.

733
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 8: I'm rare and ago whatever time you want on Sunday,

734
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,479
Speaker 8: and I'm thinking about we got to do something when

735
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 8: you come in.

736
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Speaker 6: I would love to We'll connect off the air and

737
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 6: we'll talk to you a week.

738
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 4: Thank you, my man.

739
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 3: All right, man, take it easy, guys.

740
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Speaker 6: Right there he is the very longo minute every God

741
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 6: for Sake and Monday here on the Anak and Florian podcast.

742
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 6: All right, so we go from New York to Philadelphia.

743
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 6: Let's get to the docas boys. All right, So, if

744
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 6: you don't know, now, joining us a pair of brothers

745
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 6: from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania that are really making their presence felt

746
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 6: in the UFC seventh ranked heavyweight contender, Chris Doccas middleweight beast,

747
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 6: Kyle Doccas. Great to have you with us. So we're

748
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 6: gonna sort of ping pong back and forth. Kyle, how

749
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 6: do we sound? Do we sound okay to you?

750
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: All? Good? Yep?

751
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 4: All right, So we got to start with you.

752
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 6: I've been waiting to talk to you since that Kevin

753
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 6: Holland fight I ended in a no contest. Not all

754
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 6: that long ago. It was actually sixteen days ago on

755
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 6: October tewod. We've spent a lot of time obviously on

756
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 6: it over the last two weeks, you know, largely, I

757
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 6: think you got kind of hosed, but you've had time

758
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 6: to digest it. Now, what do you have for our

759
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 6: audience in terms of that result and how you sort

760
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 6: of dealt with the aftermath of it.

761
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 9: I don't know.

762
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 11: I think did that like a referee. It's kind of

763
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 11: like a referee's mistake as far as everything just based

764
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 11: off of the situation because he had but of the

765
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 11: he had one of them, I mean, sorry, the head clash,

766
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 11: and then because he let the fight continue so long,

767
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 11: and then the result ha happened that I had choked

768
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 11: him and stuff. I think just him making it so

769
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 11: long at the end of the fight that kind of

770
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 11: caused the issue on his part, I think. But I mean,

771
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 11: the fight happened, it's good that it's happening again, and

772
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 11: I'm excited to just get back in there and kind

773
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Speaker 11: of choke him out again.

774
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Speaker 6: Yeah, rematches agreed through for November thirteenth, and obviously with

775
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 6: heightened anticipation, if not stakes. Did you see Dan Murgliata

776
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 6: walk back up the stairs and audibly say let's just

777
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 6: leave it the way it is. Did you see that

778
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 6: or were you just sort of processing everything that happened.

779
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: No.

780
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, when I was in there, I was I was

781
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 11: like fully and I was hearing everything that they were saying.

782
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 11: Dan said he was gonna leave it as it was,

783
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 11: so we were like, like, my cornerman gave me the

784
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 11: thumbs up. My other quarnerman, Jim, gave me a thumbs

785
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 11: up and said like yo, like we're good. But then

786
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 11: as soon as I saw Mark Smith or the yellow

787
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 11: light up, I started talking to Chris and pointing at

788
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 11: the yellow lightings and like it's a replay. And as

789
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 11: soon as I saw that that was going to go up,

790
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 11: I knew that it was going to be there, no

791
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 11: contest or some some other issue was going to happen.

792
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 4: So Chris, obviously you're right there.

793
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 6: I've since talked to a commissioner about how it all transpired,

794
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 6: and he reiterated to me that the power definitely still

795
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 6: resides with the referee, even though it appeared in this

796
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 6: instance that the review official kind of reigned supreme.

797
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: I guess the reason I kind of.

798
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 6: Felt like Kyle got because there's not a lot of

799
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 6: guys who can submit Kevin Holland, so if that fight

800
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 6: goes back to the stools, right and then it resumes.

801
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 6: Then Kyle has a great chance to get a win.

802
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 6: But it's like you go out and submit the guy

803
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 6: and they take that away. I don't know, I was

804
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 6: feeling for you, little bro.

805
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, it definitely sucked the whole situation.

806
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 12: You know, it's it's really sucks that that the rematches,

807
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 12: you know, obviously overclayouted by this, you know as the

808
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 12: skill set. I mean, if you look at strictly the

809
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 12: numbers and how the fight was going before then Kyle

810
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 12: was super dominant in everything. I think Kevin landed twenty

811
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 12: nine I'm sorry, he threw twenty nine strikes and landed

812
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 12: twenty seven of them, but you know the twenty seven

813
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 12: of them were you know, slaps and.

814
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 9: Footsteps against the cage.

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Speaker 12: You know, he was extremely dominant in the uh, in

816
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 12: the in the whole fight, and I think that that's

817
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 12: like one of the main things that people are.

818
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 9: Missing about this.

819
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 12: They you know, everyone's saying he got lucky or you know,

820
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 12: he it was only a matter of time before he

821
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 12: got knocked out. Like what what part of that fight

822
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 12: dictated that narrative? Like he was absolutely dominant every second

823
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 12: of the athlete.

824
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, Kyle, you know, it seems like you were in

825
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 7: a situation once that they let that fight play out.

826
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 4: You really were kind of in a situation where you.

827
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 7: Couldn't win, right because everything was going to favor you know,

828
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 7: Holland at that point.

829
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: Is that the way that you saw that?

830
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 13: Uh?

831
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 11: Anyway, I knew that if the roles were reversed that

832
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 11: it might have stayed the same, like you would have

833
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 11: got to win. Like I'm not I'm not saying that,

834
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 11: like I'm not trying to be bias or anything like.

835
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 9: That or or whatnot.

836
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 11: But I feel like, because he has an number next

837
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 11: to his name, because he's a big he's a big

838
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 11: known guy, that they would have kind of just kept

839
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 11: it as it was and then probably just moved on.

840
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 11: But because now he has a number next to his

841
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 11: name and people love him, it's an issue, but it's

842
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 11: something that we have to deal with.

843
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 7: So moving forward, knowing what you know about Holland, Now,

844
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 7: do you feel like this gave you some good information

845
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 7: for November thirteenth for the rematch that kind of were

846
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 7: you know, you know where you need to take this fight?

847
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 9: Yeah? I know that, Like I felt her strength in

848
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 9: the cage, she saw my strength he knows.

849
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 11: That I'm a lot longer than him.

850
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: And you know, we.

851
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 11: Were just getting started, we were just getting warmed up.

852
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 11: And I know that the fight's are going to be

853
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 11: the same. I'm not changing my game plan up or

854
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 11: anything like that. I'm going to go in there and

855
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 11: do the same thing that I did. What was it

856
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 11: two weeks ago? And I see this hi result. I

857
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 11: seen me sube to him either in the in the

858
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 11: first or the second.

859
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 6: Well, the one lock of the fucking century was that

860
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 6: Kyle was going to take the high road after the fight.

861
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 6: That's why I had to come on the airwaves and

862
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 6: say to anyone who was listening that you got fucking hose,

863
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 6: because no, I just I don't know, I just don't

864
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 6: feel I feel like I got some clarity from the

865
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 6: commission in so far as the referee does still wield

866
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 6: the power.

867
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: But I felt like the referee here got persuaded.

868
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 6: And again I just keep coming back to submission offense

869
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 6: being a lost start. But my listeners are going to

870
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 6: kill me if I hammer it any longer. So Chris,

871
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 6: let's get to you for a second. Is it really

872
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 6: just fifteen months on the roster?

873
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: Is that right? Fifteen months roughly since.

874
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 12: You Yeah, that's yeah, since I signed. Yeah, it was

875
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 12: August of twenty twenty.

876
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 9: So yeah, it's pretty crazy.

877
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 13: You know.

878
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 9: Kyle made his debut I think it was June against

879
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 9: Brendan Allen, and then I surely got the call afterwards.

880
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 6: So yeah, it's just got to be amazing to the

881
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 6: family for both of you guys, but Chris, for you

882
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 6: obviously to have these type of results so quickly for

883
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 6: and known the UFC with as many knockouts, three straight bonuses,

884
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 6: and now the main event obviously coming up against Derek

885
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 6: Lewis on December eighteenth. So I read an article on

886
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 6: UFC dot com recently about sort of this fast track

887
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 6: relative to your expectations for your career. I mean, you

888
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 6: certainly seem ready for primetime, but is it safe to

889
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 6: say that things have happened even quicker than you thought

890
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 6: they would.

891
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is this whole Uh my career in the

892
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 12: UFC really really took off.

893
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 9: I didn't expect it to take off.

894
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 12: This guest or plan on any of this, you know,

895
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 12: uh uh, I'm not taking any sets back obviously. This

896
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 12: is what we want, you know, So as far as

897
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 12: you know, this whole whirlwind. I'm still ready to wake

898
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 12: up and think that this is all a dream as

899
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 12: far as you know, making my debut, running through these people,

900
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 12: and then getting a man event.

901
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 6: Spot that UFC dot Com article Kyle by the way, Uh,

902
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 6: they talked about Chris's son as both Cooper and Carter,

903
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 6: So I'm trying to do my research.

904
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: Cooper is your son's.

905
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 9: It's his sons?

906
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 6: Are Is there a Carter Knakas out there that I

907
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 6: don't know about? I love both names. But all right,

908
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 6: so your son Cooper? How old is Cooper?

909
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 9: By the way, he'be three in January.

910
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 6: So did you guys have any parental or paternal pressure

911
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 6: to go into police work Chris or did that sort

912
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 6: of materialize you know naturally?

913
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 9: You know it was It was kind of pushed by

914
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 9: my dad.

915
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 12: He's he's a sergeant in the swat teens here in Philadelphia,

916
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 12: So it was always there. It was always a part

917
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 12: of the family. I was in college and you know,

918
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 12: the police were hiring. He was always pushing to just

919
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 12: come take the test. You know, you always turn it down,

920
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 12: just see how the test goes. I took the test

921
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 12: just to kind of get him off my back. I

922
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 12: didn't hear anything for a full calendar year.

923
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 9: So, like I took a test in July of twenty

924
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 9: eleven and I didn't hear anything.

925
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,240
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, of twenty ten and I didn't hear anything

926
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 12: until July of twenty eleven, and they called me on

927
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 12: like a Friday. They're like, hey, you start Monday morning

928
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 12: to get all your uniforms and everything you need. And

929
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 12: I was kind of like, all right, I guess this

930
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 12: is what I'm doing now. And then I've been here

931
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 12: ever since.

932
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 6: I just find it interesting as a young father and

933
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 6: you go all in on MMA, and certainly you have

934
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 6: a great career that you can fall back on, but

935
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 6: can you even describe for us what it's like to

936
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 6: like bring bonuses home when you have like a little

937
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 6: boy in a family depending on you.

938
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: It's just got to be a really special thing. I

939
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: would think, Nah.

940
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's it's really crazy that you know, I've I've

941
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 12: been able to get a single bonus, let alone three bonuses,

942
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 12: you know, back to back to back like that.

943
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 9: So it's really good.

944
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 12: Obviously, the taxman's got to get paid, So the taxman

945
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 12: gets paid, and then uh, and then everything that's left

946
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 12: over from the taxman robbed me? Is is get.

947
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 9: Put in the back account for my son?

948
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 12: So yeah, it's really good, and it's a really good

949
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 12: sort up for him and whatever he wants to getting

950
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 12: as far as his life.

951
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 6: Like, the only point of comparison for me is like

952
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 6: I bet on the Kansas City Chiefs to win the

953
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 6: Super Bowl a few years ago, and I made like

954
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 6: seven grand, right, and so bring in that seventh grand

955
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 6: to my wife. It's like, look at this mother, all right,

956
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 6: there's seven k on the don't ever you know. So

957
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 6: I can't even imagine to knock out another man and

958
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 6: bring fifty thousand dollars home. If I like, if I

959
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 6: knocked out another man and brought my wife fifty k,

960
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 6: it's like it's like a hall pass for the rest

961
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 6: of my life to do whatever I want.

962
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 12: You know, Yeah I don't, it's all And yeah, I

963
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 12: gotta start submitting people. The wifes getting used to the

964
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 12: fifty K bonuses, so I can't.

965
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 9: Be doing that.

966
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 6: He does have a submission bias in terms of the bonuses,

967
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 6: so I should tell you guys that. So, Kyle, is

968
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 6: it did you wait two sixty coming out of high school?

969
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

970
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 11: Wow?

971
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, people get bringing this up.

972
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, as well, you look great now.

973
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 6: Obviously, I bring it up in the context of your brother,

974
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 6: who seems to get like smaller and leaner every time

975
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 6: we see it, you know.

976
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.

977
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 11: We actually at his last fight, we saw Ray Longo

978
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 11: and Matt Sarah and Ray Alonga came up to me.

979
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 9: And he was like, holy shit. He was like, you're middleweight,

980
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 9: and I was like yeah, He's like, and you make

981
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 9: the problem. I was like, yeah, it's pretty easy. I

982
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 9: was really.

983
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 11: Surprised, like, I don't think I'm that big of a middleweight.

984
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 9: And and then I see pictures of me and Chris.

985
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 11: Together and I look like a little bit bigger, and I'm.

986
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 9: Like, he needs to stay big though I'm not trying

987
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 9: to keep getting bigg now.

988
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 6: So Chris, hopefully Rich Pohler is not talking to you

989
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 6: about two hundred and five pounds.

990
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 4: Your staying at heavyweight?

991
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: Correct.

992
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 12: No, As far as far as I know and as

993
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 12: far as right now in my career, I'm staying at

994
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 12: at heavyweight.

995
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 9: I just killed a rabbi.

996
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 12: I just bought a bunch of more at Sansbrug So

997
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 12: I'm gonna be growing them up and eating none.

998
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 9: You know, if I make it to if I you know, jump,

999
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 9: I'm gonna.

1000
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 12: Be super upset and my wife is probably gonna be

1001
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 12: super upset during that whole came But no, I mean

1002
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 12: it's really good to, you know, tell myself that I'm

1003
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 12: eating clean with like a bull of chicken rap every

1004
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 12: once in a while, you know. My god, you know,

1005
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 12: I got like chicken breasts and like sweet potatoes and stuff,

1006
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 12: and like a treat, I'll do a buffaloshing and rappers

1007
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 12: on my dad.

1008
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 9: So that's good.

1009
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 6: Well, we were all sort of marveling after your last

1010
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 6: fight about just how calm you both are in combat.

1011
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 6: But for you, Chris, it's almost like I think I'm

1012
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 6: saying a Paul Felder, it's like, well, his opponent doesn't

1013
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 6: have like a bunch of guns and knives that he's hiding.

1014
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 6: So Chris feels pretty confident going up against another human weapons,

1015
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 6: so to speak. But does that does that serve to

1016
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 6: help you be calm just because you've been in some

1017
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 6: crazy spots there in Philly?

1018
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, definitely, Yeah, it definitely plays the factor as

1019
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 12: far as you know, keeping my my nerves, you know,

1020
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 12: in the in the streets when you're a police officer.

1021
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 12: In certain situations, it becomes like that situation. So I've

1022
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 12: been in certain situations where.

1023
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 9: You know, I you know, I was okay with that,

1024
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 9: and you know, fighting in a cage is perfectly fine

1025
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 9: with me.

1026
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 12: What really gets my nerves going, honestly, and I've talked

1027
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 12: about this before is like public speaking and just like uh,

1028
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 12: you know, even doing the ceremonial way and like with

1029
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 12: your void, like hearing your voice like announce me in

1030
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 12: like the crowd going wild like because that was a

1031
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 12: whole new thing for me. So that that really gets

1032
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 12: like my nerves going and and just.

1033
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 9: Like I wanted to fight right down and there.

1034
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 12: So yeah, that that's the main thing that that really

1035
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 12: gets me going for That's cool.

1036
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 6: It's funny because I tell people when I go to

1037
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 6: like read to a kindergarten class, I get more nervous

1038
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 6: than like starting a pay per view because it's just

1039
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 6: that my comfort zone.

1040
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 4: I got thirty five year olds looking at me like

1041
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: who's this guy? You know?

1042
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 6: All right, just a couple more things before we get

1043
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 6: to fellas out there out of here. So Randy Brown,

1044
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 6: who just had a big win a couple of weeks ago.

1045
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 6: So he recently went out to a couple of bigger gyms.

1046
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 6: I think King's Mma was one of them, not with

1047
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 6: the intent to change camps, but really just to see

1048
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 6: where his level was at relative to Marvin Vattori and

1049
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 6: Kelvin Gasloman, maybe some other guys who he deemed to

1050
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 6: be elite.

1051
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 4: We'll start with you, Kyle.

1052
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 6: Have you left Philly recently or otherwise to get different

1053
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 6: looks and is that something that you even think about?

1054
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 10: Uh?

1055
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 11: So, first, like two years ago, I think it was

1056
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 11: before my Confender series fight. I went off the Trystar

1057
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 11: just to like kind of get a different feel. I

1058
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 11: knew a couple of the guys that were out there.

1059
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 9: I knew Zach.

1060
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 11: Mccowsky and Sanchez who's out at AKA, so just training

1061
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 11: with that. I just got up there just to get

1062
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 11: some extra work with them. But I didn't intentionally go

1063
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 11: up there just to see, like where my talents meet

1064
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 11: other guys that are into the division or in my division. No,

1065
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 11: I mean the gym that we have here in Philly,

1066
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 11: it's it's we have a bunch of big guys and

1067
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 11: we're not really I don't think. I mean, Chris isn't either,

1068
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 11: I'm not wanting to go out there and try to

1069
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 11: search and have a big ego when I fight or

1070
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 11: when I train, like going to other gyms and fighting guys.

1071
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 9: That are in my weight class and.

1072
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: Thing.

1073
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 11: I don't I'm not going out there to try to

1074
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 11: do all that stuff.

1075
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, Well, because Randy Chris has always been

1076
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 6: sort of a home body and he bleeds New York

1077
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 6: loud and proud, and uh, I think this was just

1078
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 6: a huge confidence builder for him to know that he's

1079
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 6: getting every bit the work he needs back home, you know.

1080
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 9: No, yeah, and you know absolutely, I what Kyle was saying.

1081
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 9: I I really I've never really trained anywhere else. You know,

1082
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 9: obviously I have. I know people who live.

1083
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 12: In the surrounding states like Maryland and New Jersie who

1084
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 12: were a bigger guy, so I would obviously travel to

1085
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 12: their gyms, but it was never like a testing you know,

1086
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 12: I test yourself.

1087
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 9: It was more of I just need bigger people to.

1088
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 12: Work with, and those are where the bigger guys are

1089
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 12: those where the bigger guys are at I think that obviously, Uh,

1090
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 12: myself and Kyle are both at the elite level in

1091
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 12: the sport, so there's really no need for us to

1092
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 12: go anywhere else. I mean, if people want to come

1093
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 12: train with us and test themselves with us, doors open,

1094
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 12: you know, shoot me a message, and uh, you know,

1095
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 12: we got no problem with uh with Rumby Brown and uh,

1096
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 12: I'm you know, opening the door up for for some

1097
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 12: people to come in. So you know, but I'm super

1098
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 12: happy with the core group of guys we have. And

1099
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 12: you know, my brother is the same way. We have

1100
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 12: the same group of guys very past a couple of fights,

1101
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 12: and I wouldn't change anyone out for any other you know,

1102
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 12: big name in this sport or anything like that.

1103
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 9: Besides those guys.

1104
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 6: I love to hear it East Coast, baby, And if

1105
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 6: you stay long enough, maybe you pick up a little

1106
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 6: bit of that Philadelphia accent here and Chris.

1107
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.

1108
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 4: Uh No, I like it.

1109
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 6: I went to Gettysburg College in Pennsylvania, so it brings

1110
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 6: me back to, uh, to my college days, all my

1111
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 6: good friends from Ashby, Pennsylvania. I believe it was Ashton, Pennsylvania.

1112
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 6: Excuse me, all right, all right, So a couple of

1113
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 6: things on the way out, Kyle, if you could pick

1114
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 6: one Philadelphia sports team to win a championship next would

1115
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 6: it be the Eagles, the Flyers, the Phillies, or the Sixers.

1116
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 11: I'm a big Eagles guy, so Eagles.

1117
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: Same question.

1118
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 6: If you could pick one of those four teams to

1119
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 6: break through next, I mean, Eagles obviously won a Super Bowl,

1120
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 6: not all that long ago.

1121
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 4: Who would you pick?

1122
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, not too long ago.

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00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 12: I'm just hearing the Flyers because the Flyers ben shooting

1124
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 12: themselves in the foot every every season, like they like,

1125
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 12: they draft good and then they trade away for shitty

1126
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 12: players and then oh, this is the year, this is

1127
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 12: the year, and then they just suck.

1128
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Speaker 9: So I really wish the Flyers can get it.

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00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 6: Together, all right, Kyle, Kevin Holland is number fourteen in

1130
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 6: the world. You know, part of the reason I was

1131
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 6: bemoaning the no contest was because you would be ranked

1132
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,919
Speaker 6: for this conversation right now.

1133
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 4: But do you have another call out planned of another rank?

1134
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 7: Guy?

1135
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 6: If you do get by Kevin Holland on November thirteenth,

1136
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 6: you don't have to share the name.

1137
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 4: But I'm just curious if you're progressively thinking.

1138
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 5: No.

1139
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 11: I honestly, I don't think like once I do win,

1140
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 11: I don't think I'm in any position to call anybody

1141
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 11: out I have my eyes set on you know, everybody

1142
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 11: that's in front of me.

1143
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: I mean, just like that.

1144
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 9: I like and there's flight of my manager.

1145
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 11: That I like to see if I can try to

1146
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 11: get them. But yeah, I mean, all right, I'll nime drop.

1147
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 11: So the Edmund Christ Yeah right, you know, would be

1148
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 11: a good matchup. That fight.

1149
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 9: That fight I think I.

1150
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 11: Played well in against both of those guys. But yeah,

1151
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 11: I mean they're they're both young guys and I think

1152
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 11: it's a good fight.

1153
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: And Chris.

1154
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 6: Last thing before we softly broke the nickname topic, Derek

1155
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 6: Lewis desembarate man. What are your thoughts on him and

1156
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 6: and how does he compare to maybe the heavyweight That

1157
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 6: would be the toughest matchup for you.

1158
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 12: You know, as of right now he's he's the toughest matchup.

1159
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 12: I think, just don't paper. He's got that one knockout

1160
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 12: power that everyone has to be for U, you know,

1161
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 12: aware of no matter what time is going on the

1162
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 12: light to be five seconds in or five seconds left.

1163
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 12: He has that that turn your that turn to switch

1164
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 12: off type power. I think he's more dangerous than Francis

1165
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 12: in the fact that he probably carries more power throughout

1166
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 12: the whole fight. Francis obviously is like a Marauder's He's

1167
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 12: like a berserker in the in the beginning of of

1168
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 12: every fight. And then you know, I just really think

1169
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 12: that he's He's obviously the toughest guy that I fought

1170
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 12: to date, and I just think I'm better than him everywhere.

1171
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 9: So we'll see how it goes.

1172
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 4: I can't wait to watch it.

1173
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 6: And then last thing, so largely I love it when

1174
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 6: like fighters don't have a nickname. You guys don't need nicknames, right,

1175
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 6: But so well, we were talking about it recently, I

1176
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 6: think on this show after one of your big wins,

1177
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 6: and I was like, you know, Chris Doccas, the whole

1178
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 6: name is three syllables like Kyle Dowcas. You can argue

1179
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 6: is three or four, but you know, for a buffer

1180
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 6: of the world, he can punch Kyle Dowcas, right, So

1181
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 6: of course, lo and behold, our executive producer Cody Merrow

1182
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 6: throws out Chris dark Horse Doccas and look like you

1183
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 6: embraced it a little bit on social media. So I

1184
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 6: guess I just want to know I'm not paging like

1185
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 6: the UFC bio researcher Tom Gerbasi, but like we drop

1186
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 6: a dark horse on the broadcast, like are you okay

1187
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 6: with that?

1188
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 9: I am okay with that.

1189
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 12: If you drop it on the broadcast, I'm probably not

1190
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 12: going to pick it up. As like my official nickname,

1191
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 12: I just just never really had a nickname, never.

1192
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 9: Really cared for the nicknames.

1193
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 12: When people like when Bruce is like announcing you, you know,

1194
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 12: I'm kind of like zoning Bruce out because if I

1195
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 12: don't zone Bruce out like a right, all right, I'm

1196
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 12: ready to run through a wall, like I'm just ready

1197
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 12: to go. So I have to keep my nerves at

1198
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 12: check and just kind of like don't pay attention to

1199
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 12: what he's doing or you know, saying, so you know,

1200
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 12: if he wants to call me the doork Corse, you

1201
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 12: can only do Corse.

1202
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 9: If not, then it doesn't matter to me.

1203
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 6: Well, and you're smart to tune him out because, as

1204
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 6: you guys know, he does have Philadelphia ruth and he

1205
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 6: I told him, I think before Kyle's debut, I was like,

1206
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 6: don't be afraid to punch the Philadelphia like that's where

1207
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 6: you're from.

1208
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 4: So well, in any event, thank you guys so much

1209
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: for the time. I know it's overdue.

1210
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 6: Kyle Dacas fights Kevin Hall in November thirteenth, one hundred

1211
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 6: and eighty five pounds, and the main event for Chris

1212
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 6: against Derek Lewis December eighteenth, live on ESPN Plus.

1213
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 4: Fellas. Appreciate you, wish you all the best, and look

1214
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 4: forward to seeing you guys on the road.

1215
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 11: So thanks, guys, appreciate good luck always you guys.

1216
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 9: Thank you.

1217
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 6: There they are, Kyle and Chris Doccas out of Philadelphia, PA.

1218
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 6: I don't tell Buffer how to do his job, but

1219
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 6: I'm like, can you imagine, you know, you don't giving

1220
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 6: it to the Boston guys. Give a little, you know,

1221
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 6: Chris a little Philadelphia, you know, give it a little

1222
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 6: extra punch.

1223
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 7: I love it, man, and that's awesome you were able

1224
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 7: to get him on the podcast. Big fans of those guys,

1225
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 7: you know, they've been awesome to watch. They just continue

1226
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 7: getting better, man, and to see two brothers fighting at

1227
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 7: the highest levels of the sport is really cool and

1228
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 7: a very difficult thing to do. So wish those guys

1229
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 7: the best man and middleweight is so ruthless.

1230
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 6: Like Kyle's really good and he's had a loss to

1231
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 6: Brendan Allen and a no contest in there, and you

1232
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 6: know he's accrued a lot of high level experience pretty

1233
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 6: early on. And he's the younger of the brothers. I

1234
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 6: think he's just twenty eight. But man, it's happened quickly

1235
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 6: for Chris fighting Derek Lewis in a couple months. Man,

1236
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 6: you know, very interesting fight. All Right, we thank we

1237
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 6: thank Hector Castro for setting that up with the daucas brothers.

1238
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 6: All Right, it is time for the pronunciation of the

1239
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 6: week as we call on our producer Cody Merrow. So,

1240
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 6: Chris dark Horse doccas right, you'll have to settle for

1241
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 6: me because there's no way Buffer's gonna get clearance to

1242
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 6: say that.

1243
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 14: So God, all right, I'm just gonna four. I'm gonna

1244
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 14: find my way into the arena, forge the sheet like it'll.

1245
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: Be fine, nice red sox hat. Yeah, it's not bad.

1246
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 14: Right, Well, the fighter you're gonna ask for John is

1247
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 14: keyk Hernandez.

1248
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 4: He's the best thricker in all of baseball.

1249
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 14: Any Ashos fans listening, I'm sorry, Like next week you're

1250
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 14: gonna sing a different tune, but this week, whatever, rider

1251
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 14: high horse, your ball boys in the way trying to

1252
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 14: get runs out of nowhere, whatever whatever, We're.

1253
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 4: Back in Boston tonight or tonight tomorrow night.

1254
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 6: I don't remember, so as some of our listeners assuredly know.

1255
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 6: Carlos Corea, who's the shortstop of the Astros, whom I

1256
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 6: consider a friend, I guess I should say former friend.

1257
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 6: I did throw away his player T shirt after.

1258
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 4: Jam You're gonna keep your friends closer.

1259
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 3: I love you.

1260
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 6: And Lance mccullors with Corea does an MMA podcast in

1261
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 6: the off season.

1262
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 4: Right.

1263
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 6: So, Lance mccullors is the number one starter pitching wise

1264
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 6: for the Astros, missing the series with an injury. So oh,

1265
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 6: that's a break for the Red Sox. The number forty

1266
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 6: three is not a part of this series, but uh

1267
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 6: one one game three tonight, hopefully it goes to the

1268
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 6: Red Sox. But Cody Marrow, you're here for the pronunciation

1269
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 6: of the week. This fighter represents the great nation of Argentina.

1270
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 6: He has lost three straight fights in the UFC. Was

1271
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 6: to face Jamie Pickett earlier this month, but wan of

1272
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 6: Pickett's coaches tested positive for COVID nineteen, so the fight

1273
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 6: delayed two weeks and now it shall be down this weekend.

1274
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 4: Cody Marrow of whom am I speaking.

1275
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 14: I believe you're speaking of Loriano Steripoli.

1276
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 4: No, that's not at all how you pronounced the first

1277
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 4: or last night.

1278
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 14: Let's hear him though, Lauriano Stato buddy.

1279
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 4: That's a tough one. Can flow? Uh? Can we hear

1280
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 4: that once more?

1281
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 7: Cian Louriano Stato buddy, Lauriano Stato buddy. Lao lao loo.

1282
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 14: Like mao, So I'm tyler in Portuguese and that's that's

1283
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 14: one of the things I'm struggling was the mao, yeah,

1284
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 14: mina lua. Now everything's on the like the tip the owl.

1285
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a no for me. I mean star trying.

1286
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 4: I'm putting the work I'm putting.

1287
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 14: You know, I'm not out here on Sundays doing Fantasy

1288
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 14: Zone instead of UFC names.

1289
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 6: The part, right, I tell you guys, and Kenny's probably

1290
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 6: so sick of me on a weekly basis. But I

1291
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 6: shouldn't need phonetics by the time the fight arrives. But

1292
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 6: for this surname Starpily, I need phonetics, you know, because

1293
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 6: I don't.

1294
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 4: I still don't even know which you think would emphasize. Yeah, yeah,

1295
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 4: st You know, Cody, you're not putting in the work.

1296
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 7: You're not going to Argentina in between podcasts if you

1297
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 7: really care about.

1298
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 4: I mean Global Pandemic.

1299
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 14: Since I started working Global Pandemic, I can't go to

1300
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 14: Brazil twenty seven times.

1301
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 4: Like I'm trying. I'm trying.

1302
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 6: All right, we got one thing left to do. It's

1303
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 6: UFC Fight Night, Costa versus but Tory. It is coming

1304
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 6: up this Saturday. Believe it might be an early start time.

1305
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 6: You gotta check your local listings. But it's from the

1306
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 6: ufcapix on October twenty three. Paolo Costa Marvin Vatory in

1307
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 6: the main event. Let us get to the main event Challenge.

1308
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: It's the main event challenge.

1309
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:21,479
Speaker 4: Try Hi Fish? How do you everything? Boss?

1310
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: Will Twins, It's the main event challenge to John Hannick

1311
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: and Kenny Florian podcast all.

1312
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 6: Right, joining us to make picks today a very special

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Speaker 6: guest UFC bandam Way, former All American wrestler at Menlo College.

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Speaker 6: I was digging into the Menlo College Wrestling archives two

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Speaker 6: thousand and eight, Style This Morning podcast host and so

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Speaker 6: much more. She is Ashley Evan Smith. Great to see you, babe.

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Speaker 6: How are you this morning?

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Speaker 3: I'm awesome.

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Speaker 5: I'm really excited. To be on. Guys, thank you so

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Speaker 5: much for having me.

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Speaker 6: So what time do you usually wake up? Because we

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Speaker 6: had you waken up at like eight a m. Pacific

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Speaker 6: today to come on our show.

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Speaker 10: So you know, this is really like my lunchtime because

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 10: I'm such a grandma. I'm like, I've thirty, I'm in

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Speaker 10: bed by nine point thirty. Yeah, It's it's not rebel

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Speaker 10: girl esque at all, but I'm going through recovery right now.

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Speaker 10: So I'm getting up early and I'm going to my pete.

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Speaker 10: I'm eating good, I'm sleeping like I'm being I'm living

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Speaker 10: life like to the tea just so i can get

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Speaker 10: back in the cage sooner.

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Speaker 5: So I've been up for a while.

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Speaker 4: Guys, I love that she's ready to go.

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Speaker 7: Ashley, can you talk about the surgery? What exactly did

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Speaker 7: you have done? And how's the recovery going? And when

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Speaker 7: can we see you next in the cage?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Kenny, I stoked your guys last podcast.

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Speaker 10: I know you're dealing with some owe sciatica by yourself,

1339
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 10: so I bet you're personally invested in this one. I

1340
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 10: basically had an artificial disc inserted in my C six

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Speaker 10: C seven like so I've got some titanium alloy plastic

1342
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Speaker 10: metal in there. What happened from so many years of wrestling,

1343
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 10: the vertebrates were kind of grinding on each other and

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Speaker 10: causing nerve damage all down the left side of my body.

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Speaker 10: So I fought my last fight back in November. I've

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Speaker 10: been dealing with a lot of pain. Long story short.

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Speaker 10: I fought regardless, didn't go my way, and then I

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Speaker 10: got surgery December fourteenth, like a week later, and it's

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Speaker 10: just been a really long recovery process. Al Jo is

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01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 10: currently dealing with the same recovery. And when I heard

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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 10: he was going to get back in the cage like

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Speaker 10: after four.

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01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 5: Months, I was like, it's amazing, it's a miracle.

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Speaker 10: And then it didn't happen, and I was like, Okay,

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01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 10: that seems about right, because this is right.

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Speaker 5: It hasn't been.

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Speaker 10: Fun, but I'm on the road to recovery. And I

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Speaker 10: don't want to give you a solid, you know, timeframe

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01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 10: in case it doesn't go my way, but I'd like

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Speaker 10: to say mid twenty twenty two, just ready to go,

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01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 10: full fight camp, no injuries, new body parts, ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Exciting because Ray Longo is on our show every week

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01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 6: and anytime we brought up al Jamain Sterling at October thirtieth,

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Speaker 6: he didn't want to have that noise, right because I

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01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 6: think internally Ray was thinking like, dude, you're not fighting,

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Speaker 6: like this isn't happening, you know.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I mean, you want to do everything you

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Speaker 10: can to believe.

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Speaker 3: That you can do it.

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Speaker 13: You know, they say it's sports are ninety eighty whatever

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Speaker 13: percent mental.

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Speaker 5: I fully agree.

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Speaker 13: But if you're having that kind of pain, the kind

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Speaker 13: of pain that I was dealing with and continue to

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Speaker 13: struggle with in my recovery, you don't want to fight

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Speaker 13: for you don't want to defend your title with that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So you fought once in twenty eighteen, nineteen, and twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Actually the last fight was Norma Dumont.

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Speaker 6: So were you watching that main event with any added

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01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 6: heightened interests this past weekend?

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Speaker 10: So I'll be real, real, real with you guys.

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Speaker 5: I'm very open.

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Speaker 10: I watched the whole card, and you know, leading up

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01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 10: to the main event is just highlight reel of actually

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Speaker 10: I FI getting pow did it.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, this is not good for my mental health,

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Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 10: But I'm like, okay, I would like to transition two

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Speaker 10: more broadcast post fight career.

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Speaker 5: I gotta take it, just take it for then.

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Speaker 10: You know, my partner, my boyfriend and I were watching it.

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Speaker 10: I'm like, the main event comes on, I'm like, turn

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Speaker 10: the shit off. So I didn't watch the main event.

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Speaker 10: I clicked the next morning. I woke up, you know,

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01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 10: and saw that she won, which, in a weird way,

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01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 10: it's like, you want that, right, you want the people

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01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 10: that beat you. Your stock goes up. It makes you

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01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 10: look a little better, I guess.

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Speaker 5: And this girl is no joke.

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01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 10: And now that and I know that personally, and now

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Speaker 10: that she's at featherweight, I feel like she's probably gonna

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Speaker 10: be unstoppable. You know, she's not struggling to make that

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01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 10: VANDAM weight weight class, and that really didn't seem to

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01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,439
Speaker 10: affect her anyway in our fight. So it was nice

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01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 10: to wake up and be like, all right, I knew

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Speaker 10: I thought a tough bitch.

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Speaker 6: Oh sorry, no, that's all bizz, No, you cannot cuss

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Speaker 6: away here. So you were three and oh as a

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Speaker 6: pro when you made your UFC debut and twoy fourteen

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Speaker 6: against Rachael Pennington. I don't remember much about what's going

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Speaker 6: on in my life seven years ago. But what do

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Speaker 6: you remember about that fight and anything else that was

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01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 6: like going on in your life at that time?

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Speaker 4: Green as Hell obviously making your UFC debut.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I think Kenny can agree. Everyone remembers that

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01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,479
Speaker 10: first call. It's like their first time.

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Speaker 5: They're like, they'll never forget it, whether it was, whether

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Speaker 5: it was good or bad. You know, it's always on there.

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Speaker 10: And you know, I was three and oh, such a baby,

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01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 10: you know. I know I'm a seasoned veteran now, but

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Speaker 10: I really don't feel that way. As you mentioned earlier,

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01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 10: I fight about once a year because of whatever reasons, injury, pandemic,

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01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 10: other crap, and it's unfortunate, but it is what it is.

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01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 5: So I remember every fight really well.

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Speaker 10: It's not like I'm you know, Andrea Rolowski or Jim

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Speaker 10: Miller who had a buttload of fights, and I'm like,

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Speaker 10: I kind of remember, you know whatever. But I was

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01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 10: three and oh, I was the only real fights I

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01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 10: had had were CFA, which is not a promotion anymore,

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01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 10: and one World Series of Fighting fight, and the UFC

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01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 10: called me on short notice two weeks actually to replace

1434
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Speaker 10: Holly Holme, just like this last weekend she got injured.

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01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 10: They called me. I said, you know, I told my coach,

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01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 10: I'm like, I don't know if I feel ready. And

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Speaker 10: my old coach at the time, Adam Lynn from Subfighter MMA,

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01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 10: he looked at me and he goes, you don't say

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01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 10: no in the UFC calls, and I was.

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01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 5: Like, oh, I guess you're right.

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01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 10: I had to lose twenty six pounds in two weeks.

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Speaker 5: It was not fun. As a wrestler. I knew I

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01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 5: could do it.

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Speaker 10: I was just like, you know, this is this is

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01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 10: not how I want to start my career. But as

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01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 10: my coach said, you just don't say no. So took

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Speaker 10: the fight.

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Speaker 5: Made the way.

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Speaker 10: I fought Roquel Pennington on two weeks notice, who was

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01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 10: no joke obviously, and I was doing pretty good in

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01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 10: the first round until she caught me with a very

1452
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 10: unorthodox submission, the bulldog choke, where it's just it kind

1453
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 10: of like you really don't see it a lot, because

1454
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 10: it's almost like brute school yard dish, like you don't

1455
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 10: see it in the training room a lot. And honestly,

1456
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 10: I just never saw it. I didn't defend it. When

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01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 10: she locked it in with like ten seconds left, I

1458
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 10: literally hear the clack claque, and I like, oh, I got.

1459
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Speaker 5: This, and then I woke up on the mat.

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Speaker 10: So it was a brutal debut. But like I say,

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01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 10: with my career and fighting in general, it's high risk,

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 10: high reward and I got a four fight contract, so

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01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 10: I do not regret taking that fight. I think the

1464
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 10: UFC appreciates people who do them as solid you know,

1465
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 10: are always down to fight no matter what. And it

1466
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 10: worked out. You know, I've won some, I lost some,

1467
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 10: but that was a memorable fight for me.

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01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 6: Well, I saw you a couple of weeks ago at

1469
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 6: the celebration of life for our late great makeup artist

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Speaker 6: Susie Fretan and just enjoyed talking the fight game with you.

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Speaker 6: So we appreciate you joining us today. We got a

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Speaker 6: few picks to make. Last thing for me before we

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 6: make picks. In terms of your division, I know you've

1474
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 6: had time away, but is it like better for you

1475
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 6: if Amanda Nunez just keeps beating people like Juliana Penya

1476
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 6: or do you want this belt change in hands? Or

1477
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 6: do you truly not give a shit? Like I just

1478
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 6: am curious because you are one of a handful of

1479
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 6: vandam weight contenders that hasn't fought her, Amanda, I mean,

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Speaker 6: what are you root for?

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01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 10: Well, I always tend to root with my heart as

1482
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 10: opposed to my head. Even when I make my picks,

1483
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 10: I really have to turn my heart off and go

1484
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 10: with my brain. And I did that today because I

1485
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 10: want to win. I want to win. I'm going to

1486
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,479
Speaker 10: but uh but in my heart, I just I think

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01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 10: Amanda is such a great representation of our sport. She's

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01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 10: killing it. I love everything she stands for. I know

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01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 10: we're on a personal level. I think she's a great human,

1490
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 10: so I want her to just keep raining. And on

1491
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 10: another personal level as well. You know, let's say I

1492
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 10: get back in the cage I went through in a row.

1493
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 10: I'm in title contention. Of course you're gonna crap my

1494
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 10: pains and find Amanda Neuna. But like if you haven't noticed,

1495
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 10: I will always step up.

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01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 5: To the challenge.

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 10: So I mean, yeah, that's what dreams are made of

1498
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 10: for me. You know, come back, go on a winning spree,

1499
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 10: and then fight the best of the best. You got

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01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 10: to beat the best to be the best. So yeah,

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01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 10: let Amanda stay there, but make my way up there.

1502
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 10: I'm on a fighter and then we'll you know, have

1503
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 10: a drink afterwards.

1504
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 4: I like that. Well.

1505
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 6: I was actually thinking about you when Holly Holm fell out,

1506
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 6: because if you were healthy, you know, potentially rematch Duma

1507
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 6: up ten pounds.

1508
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 4: Just you haven't been.

1509
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 6: Able to take advantage of all the weird circumstances of

1510
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 6: this COVID climate because of your health. But as you know,

1511
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 6: weird shit's happening like weekend and week out.

1512
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 10: So I don't want to sound salty, but in a

1513
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 10: freakin heartbeat, I would rematch that girl, just, you know.

1514
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 5: Because no excuses.

1515
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 10: I just know that I can give a better performance

1516
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 10: in the future.

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01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, when you can actually feel the left side of

1518
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 6: your body. All right, let's make something. Yeah, we got

1519
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 6: four of them today, first up at featherweight. And if

1520
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 6: you don't know how good South koressngwou Choi is, the

1521
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 6: odds makers certainly are paying attention. Seems to have figured

1522
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 6: it out. After starting zero to two in the UFC,

1523
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 6: he has now won three in a row. As such,

1524
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 6: he's the minus two to eighty betting favorite here against

1525
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 6: Alex caceras Bruce Leroy comes back at plus two twenty five. Ashley,

1526
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 6: what do you think about this one at featherweight and

1527
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 6: ultimately who wins it.

1528
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 10: I really I like this matchup a lot. I think

1529
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:25,040
Speaker 10: the betting odds are on point. Troy is a tall featherweight,

1530
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 10: He's six foot and when you watch his striking, he

1531
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 10: knows how to use it.

1532
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,959
Speaker 5: He's chrisp He's tight, he's very technical.

1533
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 10: I especially watched that fight as last fight and gets

1534
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 10: Julian Arosa that nasty knockout on the first round. And

1535
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 10: Erosa himself is a very high level striker, so that

1536
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 10: puts me on notice. And you know, but in my heart,

1537
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 10: like I said before, I'm a little torn because Bruce Leroy,

1538
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 10: I believe he's a fan favorite. He's always exciting to watch.

1539
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,520
Speaker 10: He's a vegan I like that. And you know, he's

1540
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 10: had so much experience in the Fed the Way Division,

1541
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 10: in the UFC itself, and he's on a four fight

1542
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 10: win streak, which is I believe the longest win streak

1543
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 10: he's ever been on. So it seems to like he

1544
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 10: has this resurgence of his career, which who knows, maybe

1545
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 10: he's got some new mental game and new nutritionists. You know,

1546
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 10: he's just he's he's.

1547
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 5: On another level. Now with that.

1548
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 10: Being said, I like Choi for this fight, I think,

1549
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 10: and do you want me to give you the method?

1550
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 4: You don't need to for this fight, but we'll take it.

1551
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 4: Have a leen, I.

1552
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 10: Just it's hard to say. I think Choi's gonna win

1553
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 10: this one. I think it's going to be an exciting fight.

1554
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 10: These guys both have gas tanks. I'm gonna say Choi

1555
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 10: and the third all right.

1556
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 4: So joy round three for Ashley Evans Smith.

1557
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 6: So yeah, Casara's Kenny interesting case, right, you and I

1558
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 6: called a lot of his early fights in the UFC

1559
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 6: has never had more momentum than he has right now.

1560
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:57,719
Speaker 6: As Ashley alluded to four straight wins twenty fifth UFC appearance, guys,

1561
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 6: been there and done that.

1562
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 4: Tough spot, tough fight he draws this weekend. Your thoughts

1563
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 4: flowing well right now?

1564
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 7: My thoughts are that I'm very upset that you had

1565
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 7: Ashley on the podcast because clearly she's smart and she's

1566
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 7: done her homework. So I'm not feeling good about these picks.

1567
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 7: But yeah, no, listen, I agree with her absolutely.

1568
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 4: On CHOI.

1569
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 7: I think that it's most likely going to come down

1570
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 7: to striking. I think Cassara's you know he could be

1571
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 7: tricky on the ground, but I don't think he has

1572
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 7: the takedowns or the size to really impose that part

1573
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 7: of his game on Choi, So I think it's probably

1574
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 7: gonna stay on the feet, and Cassara's will kind of

1575
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 7: use that karate style, But I think choice power, his

1576
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 7: ability to put together cleaner combinations, I think will be

1577
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 7: the difference here.

1578
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 4: So I like Choi here as well.

1579
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 6: Only man to beat Cassarras at all recently was ice

1580
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 6: Cream Crone Gracie. I actually went down a little chron

1581
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 6: Gracy rabbit hole this morning.

1582
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: He moved to Montana. Can flow out of California. Ashley.

1583
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 6: By the way, everybody's leaving California, Ashley. Evan Smith is

1584
01:10:56,400 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 6: not leaving California. Maybe Yeah, hasn't fought since the Cub

1585
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 6: Swanson fight, and I'm a big fan of his, But

1586
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:08,799
Speaker 6: he moved to Montana.

1587
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 4: Everybody getting out of Dutch, all right? Next up this

1588
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 4: is in Ashley's division.

1589
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 6: By the way, Jessica Rowse Clark minus won thirty five

1590
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 6: Jocelyn Edwards plus one point fifteen. So Clark tore her

1591
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 6: acl in her last win last September against Sarah alpar

1592
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 6: back for the first time here in more than a year.

1593
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 6: Edward's on the other side, making her third start in

1594
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 6: the UFC, all of them in twenty twenty one. I

1595
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 6: believe she trains under Victor davi La in California. If

1596
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 6: I'm not mistaken, Ashley, what do you think about this one?

1597
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 6: In your division?

1598
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 4: Baby?

1599
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 10: Obviously I always eyeballs are always on featherweight and or

1600
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 10: sorry Flywaight and bannam Way have bounced around from those

1601
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 10: weight classes. Let's just say when I come back, it's

1602
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 10: gonna be bantamweight. Okay, I get too old for that

1603
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 10: featherweight division. But you know, I like this fight a lot.

1604
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 5: Jocelyn.

1605
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,839
Speaker 10: I've been watching her since she did make her debut,

1606
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 10: been paying extra close attention to the fight because of

1607
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 10: the pandemic, so thank you COVID. I guess I thought

1608
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 10: she looked real sharp in her debut, But when I

1609
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 10: watched her fight against Rosa, I just saw her get

1610
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 10: controlled with the wrestling. I saw her not check kicks

1611
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 10: a lot. And you know, matching her up against Jesse

1612
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 10: Jess who, regardless of her coming off that ACL injury

1613
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 10: and you know, a year layoff, maybe she's got some

1614
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,640
Speaker 10: ring rust. I don't believe in that, you know, But

1615
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:32,799
Speaker 10: it's dependent on the fighter. I just see jesse jess

1616
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 10: If she controls this fight with wrestling and throws a

1617
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 10: lot of heavy leg kicks, this is her fight for sure.

1618
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 5: I picked Jessica Rose Clark.

1619
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 6: Yeah. No, it's a good breakdown, and I think you

1620
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 6: picked up on a lot of things that I did

1621
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,759
Speaker 6: on the Edwards film. Kenny, what do you think about

1622
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 6: this one short price on Jessica Rose Clark the favorite?

1623
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, it's hard to see what kind of

1624
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 7: fighter Jocelyn Edwards is. You know, it seemed like her

1625
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 7: debut and her second fight. We're two different performances and

1626
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 7: of course two different opponents, right, But I don't know.

1627
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 7: I can't tell if she was just off or if that's,

1628
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 7: you know, a real weakness in her game. But I

1629
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 7: think Edwards probably has the advantage on the ground. I

1630
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 7: think her grounded pound, her submission game might be a

1631
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 7: little bit better than Jessica's.

1632
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 4: But Jessica's gonna be the cleaner striker here.

1633
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 7: I think the way that she's able to strike from

1634
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 7: the outside with those leg kicks that Ashley was talking about,

1635
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:30,679
Speaker 7: could really slow her down.

1636
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 4: And kind of be the beginning of the end for Edwards.

1637
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 7: So I think if she's able to pick her apart

1638
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 7: from the outside, slow her down, maybe attack the body

1639
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 7: and stay out of that clinch, or be efficient from

1640
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 7: the clinch. I think this is Jessica's fight as well,

1641
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 7: So gotta go with Jessica Clark.

1642
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,680
Speaker 6: Gotta roof for the fellow hyphen too, Ashley, right, I

1643
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 6: mean I know hers is in her first name.

1644
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1645
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 4: All right?

1646
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 6: Co main event at lightweight, we will need the in

1647
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 6: the method of victory here Grant Dawson three to one

1648
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 6: favorite modest three h five against Ricky Glenn, who is

1649
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 6: plus two forty. So Dawson had a fight on the books,

1650
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 6: as Ken Flowell knows against Diego Fijeda that was to

1651
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 6: happen earlier this month Fajita got hurt, I believe, so

1652
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 6: Dawson instead draws Ricky Glenn a few weeks later and

1653
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 6: Rick Dawson, Rick Dawson, Grant Dawson trying to move to

1654
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 6: six to zero here in the UFC. Ashley, what do

1655
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 6: you think about the comin event?

1656
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 10: I think this and this is a strong statement with

1657
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 10: costa and victory being the main event, but I think

1658
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 10: this is going to be fight of the night. I

1659
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 10: think that Dawson is a young powerhouse, and like you said,

1660
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 10: he's undefeated. He struggled with some weight class issues, and

1661
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 10: if you have ever bounced around from weight class to

1662
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 10: weight class, you know, you just don't know you want

1663
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 10: to be. You want to find the right fit where

1664
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 10: you're lean and fast and powerful. And I think he's

1665
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 10: finding his home at weight and I think it's gonna

1666
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 10: be a really good fight for him. Rick Glenn, he's

1667
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 10: extremely experienced.

1668
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 5: You know, he's one of those guys.

1669
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 10: I didn't say this about Jessica Rose Clark, but you

1670
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 10: know she has a fight too often, myself being one

1671
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 10: of those a similar type of fighter, right once a

1672
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 10: year type thing. But when they show up, man, they

1673
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 10: show up, and Rick Glenn shows up, He's got plenty

1674
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 10: of experience. So it's like a younger, powerful guy, you know.

1675
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,520
Speaker 5: A guy who's been doing it longer, with more experience.

1676
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 10: I take Dawson and I think that it's going to

1677
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:33,879
Speaker 10: be I expect to finish.

1678
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 5: I expect a third round choke.

1679
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 6: All right, third round submission for Grant Dawson. Nicely done,

1680
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 6: Ashley and yeah, Kenny, no doubt Grant Dawson has found

1681
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 6: his right weight class, and thankfully he is finding it

1682
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 6: early in his career. You think about guys like Dustin

1683
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 6: Poria and Dan Hooker did all this work at featherweight.

1684
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 4: I digress.

1685
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 6: But Ricky Glenn on the other side, Kenny, he had

1686
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,920
Speaker 6: like a three year layoff but came back with that

1687
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 6: huge knockout of lakem Silva in June. Still a big

1688
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 6: price here though, Ricky Glenn plus two forty.

1689
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 4: What do you think about his chances here against Grant Dawson. Listen,

1690
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 4: I think rick Rick Glenn has some good skills.

1691
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:17,600
Speaker 7: I think he's well rounded, he's dangerous, and you know,

1692
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 7: the only thing, he's a little inconsistent. Sometimes we see,

1693
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,799
Speaker 7: you know, some good performances, some OK performances here, sometimes

1694
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 7: makes some mental errors during the fight, whereas Grant Dawson

1695
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 7: probably a little bit more consistent. I was really impressed

1696
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 7: with his comeback win over Leo Santos as well. I

1697
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 7: thought it showed a lot about his heart and his

1698
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 7: willingness to win. And I think he's got a lot

1699
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 7: of potential. I think he's learning from each and every fight,

1700
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 7: so I like Grant Dawson here as well.

1701
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 4: Let's go with the third round TKO for Dawson.

1702
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 6: Third round TKO the picks and click for canflow there

1703
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 6: on Grant Dawson I main event big fight at one

1704
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 6: hundred and eighty five pounds Marvin Vittori Right now on

1705
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 6: DraftKings sports Book, the Modus one thirty betting favorite Paolo

1706
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 6: Costa can be had at plus one ten. All right,

1707
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 6: so these two men have combined, excuse me to face

1708
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 6: The champions are a out of Sonya three times they're

1709
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 6: ozer and three for Costa. That is his only pro loss, Ashley,

1710
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 6: and that was his last fight, all the way back

1711
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 6: in September of last year at UFC two fifty three.

1712
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 6: Costa Vittori under the lights this weekend. Who wins the

1713
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 6: main event?

1714
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1715
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 10: I believe both these guys, Vittori and Costa Adasanya was

1716
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 10: their last fight, if I'm correct, And uh, you know

1717
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,719
Speaker 10: this this one is extremely tough, right because you've got

1718
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 10: just two specimens and it's I'm nitpicking now, like you

1719
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 10: have to nitpick when it gets to this level, and

1720
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 10: I'm really you know, if Theori has never been finished.

1721
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 5: They both fought out of Sonya.

1722
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 10: I think the difference is the fact that Adasnya stle

1723
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 10: Bender really broke down Costa mentally. He kind of you know,

1724
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 10: destroyed him when they fought, and Tory just seems to

1725
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,839
Speaker 10: have a stronger mental game. And at this level, it's

1726
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 10: like I said, I'm nitpicking, but I think the mental

1727
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 10: aspect is going to be the final straw for this fight,

1728
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 10: you know, the really the deciding factor, and so I

1729
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 10: give it to the VATORI and man to have to

1730
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 10: pick a specific.

1731
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say decision for the Tory.

1732
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, but we're really nitpicking, Man, this is going to

1733
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 10: be a great fight.

1734
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 6: Well, No in Vegas obviously has this close on paper,

1735
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 6: and for Marvin Vittori, man, he wants this so badly, Kenny,

1736
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 6: He's racked up a lot of experience, right, He's fought

1737
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 6: seventy five minutes in that octagon since we last saw

1738
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 6: Paolo Costa, the main event wins over Jack Romanson and

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 6: Kevin Holland, and obviously the twenty five minutes with aut

1740
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 6: Asani that did not go his way. You know, I

1741
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 6: felt like at times Inventori's last fight he was a

1742
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 6: little bit delusional with respect as to what was actually

1743
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 6: happening in that fight, and then afterwards kind of felt

1744
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 6: like maybe he had done enough. You know, I think

1745
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 6: there's less there are more unknowns on the Palo Costa side,

1746
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 6: certainly as far as what his last year has held. Kenny,

1747
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 6: what do you have for us on the main event?

1748
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 6: I have no idea who wins it, and I'm glad

1749
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 6: I don't have to make a pick.

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01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. Man.

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01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 7: You know, you know Ashley was calling these guys physical specimens.

1752
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 7: That's why they remind me a lot about myself. You know,

1753
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 7: you look at the body type that you know, I

1754
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 7: could really see no, but listen, these guys definitely are

1755
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 7: physically very powerful guys, very explosive. I think for victory, though,

1756
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 7: you know, the path is pretty clear.

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01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 4: He's got it. He's got to look for a takedown.

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01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 7: He's got to slow Polocausta down, get him on his back,

1759
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 7: you know, and get rid of you know, a lot

1760
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 7: of those exchanges in tight.

1761
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 4: I think that's where Paulocausta can really hurt you.

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01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 7: He's extremely fast, and for a guy who is as

1763
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 7: physically big, who carries as much muscle, you know, a

1764
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 7: lot of times you expect him, you know, to to

1765
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 7: slow down, and when Paulo is a tremendous shape, he

1766
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 7: doesn't really slow down. He could still have a lot

1767
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 7: of pop in his punches.

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01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 7: I think Victory's got to be very careful here. He's

1770
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 7: got to set up his takedowns properly. He's got to

1771
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 7: get respect from Paulo Costa with his hands, but he

1772
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 7: can't stay in the pocket for too long. So really

1773
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 7: fascinated by what the approach is going to be by

1774
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 7: by both guys here. I think Vittori obviously has been

1775
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 7: more active than Paulo Costa has been recently, but I

1776
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 7: do think Paulo Costa has the skills to get it done.

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01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 4: I like Paulo Costa here.

1778
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 7: I think he'll find a way to stop those takedowns

1779
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 7: and be more effective and slow but Tory down and

1780
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 7: then kind of pounce a little bit later in the fight.

1781
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 7: When does that happen, You know, it's between the third

1782
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 7: and fourth round. Let's go with round three. Paulo Costa

1783
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 7: again here by tkoh.

1784
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:58,879
Speaker 4: All right, Cancelo Lex Costa by TKO.

1785
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 6: And I know, for the Palot fans and his coaches

1786
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 6: like they felt short changed by that last performance to

1787
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 6: say the least, so a big opportunity for for him

1788
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 6: to not write that wrong but to sort of right

1789
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 6: the ship this weekend against Marvin Vactory.

1790
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 3: All Right.

1791
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 6: More for Ashley Evan Smith on social media, you can

1792
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 6: find her at Ashley Mma and her podcast is at

1793
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 6: Sex and Violence with Rebel Girl. Ken Flow's got to

1794
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,519
Speaker 6: come on the show. I'm a little timid, you know

1795
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 6: about the format. No, I know, we talked.

1796
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.

1797
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 6: I just need to accrue a little bit more sexual

1798
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 6: experience before Kenny would be a great I think Kenny

1799
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 6: would be a great guest.

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01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 10: You know.

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01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 6: So much for joining us, Thanks for lifting me up

1802
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 6: over the last few weeks obviously with Susie, and we

1803
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 6: wish you all the best with your podcast and with

1804
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 6: coming back and look forward to seeing you soon.

1805
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 5: Thank you guys so much. I have a great day.

1806
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 5: Talk to you soon.

1807
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 6: As is Ashley Evan Smith with us for the main

1808
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 6: event challenge this week here on the Anecmploring podcast. So

1809
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 6: when we had that celebration of life for Susie, Ashley

1810
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 6: really was lifting me up and she was telling me

1811
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,559
Speaker 6: about this podcast that she has right and some of

1812
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 6: my broadcasting colleagues, I think Alan Joe Bann and Laura

1813
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 6: Sanko have been on the program. But there's certain things

1814
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 6: we obviously can't talk about because of what we do

1815
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 6: for a living, right, Like I can tell our intimate

1816
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 6: audience here on the Anakin Florian podcast. You notice I

1817
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 6: take chances on these airwaves that I certainly wouldn't take

1818
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 6: on a UFC telecast. And there's a lot that I

1819
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 6: can't even say here because of the nature of what

1820
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 6: we do for a living. But rest assured when I retire,

1821
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 6: Oh my god, when I retired all old.

1822
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 4: We're eighty doing this podcast. Dude, it out.

1823
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 6: We're asking people to hit the like button when we're eighty.

1824
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 6: You know, we're just trying to retire. Can you hit

1825
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 6: the fucking like button?

1826
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 14: Look, John, no offense, I like you, but you get

1827
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 14: to wait until after a couple episodes after Alan Joe

1828
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 14: Benn right like, do yourself some favors.

1829
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, seriously, that's a good looking man. But again, beauty

1830
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 4: is in the eye of the beholder, right It's like,

1831
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 4: I think.

1832
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 14: Well, in the eye of modeling agencies, he's much better

1833
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 14: looking than either of us.

1834
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 6: So I haven't solicited modeling work. I have an identical twins,

1835
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 6: That's true. It's like, let me solicit the modeling. I

1836
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 6: suggest that modeling services aren't interested. You know, unbelievable. This

1837
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 6: guy bang on. All right, thank you to our guests

1838
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,759
Speaker 6: Ashley Evan Smith. By the way, how about bitcoin?

1839
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:29,679
Speaker 7: Huh oh, let's go, let's go to the moon, John, Yeah,

1840
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 7: and all right.

1841
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 6: So it's over sixty two thousand right now. I guess

1842
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 6: what I grapple with. You know, my average purchase price

1843
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 6: on robin Hood forty two thousand, My average purchase price

1844
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 6: on Gemini thirty eight thousand. You know, but that doesn't

1845
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 6: really matter, right, It's like, why am I hyper focused

1846
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 6: looking at it at fifty nine?

1847
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 4: What does it matter? Just keep just exactly whole, long

1848
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 4: term think of it.

1849
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 7: Four or five year old man will be in a

1850
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 7: completely different conversation. W A G M, I wag me.

1851
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 7: We're all gonna make it. Just hold on, we're all.

1852
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:06,760
Speaker 4: Gonna make it.

1853
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 6: And you know, ken Flow obviously has to keep certain

1854
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 6: things close to the vest. But I gotta think, if

1855
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 6: we go back to our conversation earlier about me hitting

1856
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 6: seven grand on the chiefs or doc is coming home

1857
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 6: to his wife. It's like, oh, hey, honey, I just

1858
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 6: want another fifty thousand dollars bonus for knocking another man unconscious.

1859
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go to the bar tonight and you

1860
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 6: have Cooper.

1861
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 4: Okay, honey, but i'd imagine can flow.

1862
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,759
Speaker 6: At some point you've had a bitcoin conversation with Clark.

1863
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 6: That's hey, honey, I was onto something?

1864
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 4: Was I not right?

1865
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 10: Oh?

1866
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 4: Any chess puffing.

1867
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 6: There has to have been some chest puffing with the

1868
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 6: wife on bitcoin a little bit.

1869
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 7: No question about it, because you know, like what I'm

1870
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 7: talking to her in the beginning, you know, years ago

1871
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 7: about bitcoin.

1872
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 4: She's just like, what what are you doing?

1873
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 7: What you're gonna You're gonna put how much money in

1874
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 7: the mainary money?

1875
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 4: What are you? What are you doing? You're just throwing

1876
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 4: it away? Okay, yeah great? Uh So now I'm like,

1877
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 4: remember what I told you? Be something? Now we're here. Yeah.

1878
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 6: So, and I have another dear friend and colleague who

1879
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 6: sold his and so he has the reciprocal conversation with

1880
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 6: his wife, who doesn't let a day go by right

1881
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 6: without reminding how many millions he decided to sell for

1882
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 6: like sixty thousand bucks back in the day. All right,

1883
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 6: Thank you to our guest actually Evan Smith, Chris Dacas,

1884
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,799
Speaker 6: Kyle Dawcas, Chris the dock Horse, doccash Ray Longo.

1885
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 4: That feels like a long time ago.

1886
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 6: Next week's show is going to be out early, folks,

1887
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 6: right Cody, because it is wheels up to Abu Dhabi

1888
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 6: and South Florida. We got a big show coming up

1889
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,879
Speaker 6: at advance of UFC two sixty seven and a special

1890
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,719
Speaker 6: announcement on next week's three hundred and twenty second episode

1891
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 6: of the Anakin Florin Podcast. So stay tuned for that

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01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 6: Antichlorin podcast. Dot com is live for all of your

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01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 6: merchandise needs millions dot co for the one more sleep stuff,

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Speaker 6: and don't forget kemplo's YouTube channel Bulldog Chokes, Clock Chokes.

1895
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 6: Whatever needs to be explained, We'll be explained there. Thank

1896
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 6: you all for indulging us. Thanks to our executive producer,

1897
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 6: Cody Merrow. Until next week, enjoy the fights, don't text

1898
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 6: and drive Holo Costas back in your life this weekend

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01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 6: on ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you next Monday.

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Speaker 3: You'll lave