WEBVTT - Higher Learning 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:03.920 You are now listening to Waiting on Reparations the production 0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:10.320 of I Heart Radio. My Name is Dope night, and 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:17.360 y'all are listening to Waiting on Reparation, Hurry up for 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.599 real ship speaking to students. Oh man, that's like the 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:23.200 perfect setup for the episode. But I mean, we can't 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:24.840 even get into that right away, right, I guess we 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.040 gotta like talk about the you know, being the show 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:29.680 that we are. I think it's only right that we 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:33.960 talk about or at least mentioned. Uh So, World War three? Uh, 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:44.479 how's that? Well? Um? I mean this episode is not 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.000 dedicated to that, so, you know, I don't want to 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.600 speak out of pocket without you know, reading fully what's what? 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:56.040 But more or less, uh Russia sent troops into the 0:00:56.080 --> 0:01:00.520 rebel controlled regions of Ukraine. Vladimir Crutain did like hour 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:05.720 long speech and ship where he was pretty much justifying 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.199 going in there. So they're doing it as a quote 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:13.440 unquote peacekeeping mission to protect those uh new states that 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.520 they've recognized, the sovereign nations. And uh, it's kind of 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.320 everyone's saying it's like a pretext to war. What are 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.680 your what are your thoughts on it? It seems like 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.480 everyone was like really freaking out about it. But then 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.959 as the day went on, I guess not. But I mean, well, 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.720 it's not like, yeah, I felt like we're like loading 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:36.200 up aircraft full of you know, college kids to go 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.679 over there and drop them out of plane in parachutes. Today, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:43.399 you know, people started freaking out. But it remains to 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.520 be seen how swiftly if any action will be taken. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:51.960 Particularly I guess um they're being pressure from you know, UK, NATO, 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.840 other world UM leaders and allies of ours to see 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.920 what happens with imposing sanctions. UM. So well, you know, 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.000 we'll see how that plays out. I guess I give 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.800 me some release relief as someone that identifies as anti 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.880 war generally not really a big fan of them military 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:14.399 industrial complex. So um, yeah, that's where we had. Well, 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.240 those sanctions are definitely going to start flying like hot 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.160 cakes all over that place, man, um, I think it. 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:25.239 That's definitely gonna have an economic impact on the US. 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:30.919 I would imagine we'd imagine with like iron and aluminum, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.839 maybe wheat and stuff like that. Even if not, they're 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.160 definitely gonna say it is to explain why no one 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:43.760 can afford anything. We need to talk about the inflation 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.639 ship too. At some point when we need you to 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.320 talk about the fact that Georgia rent has increased in 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.240 the last three years, what we need to talk about 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:54.079 is the fact that wages are not keeping up with 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.320 the natural rate of inflation in the first place. Like 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.880 if we do talk about inflation, we need to become 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.520 adding media narratives around the fact that it is to 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:06.560 do with I don't know, workers getting fucking unemployment insurance 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.799 or some ship and you know, actually take a look 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.200 at the fact that the CEOs you know what we're 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.400 talking about, types and foods or whatever are getting huge 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.840 bonuses right now there and they're the costs of their 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:22.320 goods is going up. Now that's because of inflation, because 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.560 they're just like paying officially because they have like all 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:31.200 these corporations are having record profit years and ship some 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.760 like a lot of this is they're doing to a 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:37.240 large part, they're doing it. They're doing it. They're doing 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:41.360 it to us. And then be like do you see peasants, 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.800 you know, like this is what this is what you 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:47.560 have wrought with your labor shortage. How they're all of 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:54.920 you have a safe plantation down price of stakes on 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.560 the real though, like do you think that there's some 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:02.880 spite involved in it for all of the lab um 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.520 do you like on the real though, do you think 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:09.200 there might be some spike in it involved It's it's 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.400 interesting to me to consider to what degree in various 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:20.200 UM government policies are latently like forms of disciplining the populace, 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.159 like cutting off on employment insurance to like force people 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:29.159 back into an unsafely opened economy, etcetera. So I mean, 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:31.200 I would not be shocked if that were a part 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:35.560 of the calculus of like something like, oh, let's take okay, 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.800 at least, like, let's take advantage of this moment everyone's 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:41.560 talking about inflation, etcetera. You can probably just drive up 0:04:41.600 --> 0:04:43.920 the price of goods and no one will notice, and 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.000 everyone will blame it on someone else. So let's get 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:51.320 that bag babe manufactured consent with the mainstream media, and 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.880 then you can kind of you know, um, So let's 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.839 let's get into you know we we will definitely dedicate 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:01.880 something to talking about that speci quickly coming up soon. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.240 But what are we talking about today? We are talking 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.919 about higher learning. Yes, I had not. I was not 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.840 familiar with this UM film before because I was old 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.120 when it came out. Yeah, no, you hadn't seen it, 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.840 like only Yeah, I mean all I knew of ice 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:26.960 cube cinematic career was fucking Friday, And like, are we veryain? 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.440 That's crazy? I mean, I'm not saying I'm not saying 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.479 you're crazy, but I'm just saying, like, it's it's sucking 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.560 wild to take that in that. It's like, man, you know, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.840 there's like a whole bunch of motherfuckers don't remember like 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.159 when the ice Cube and nice Tea first started being 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:44.840 in movies and ship like that, and you know, they 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.000 actually had some really good ones. But that was definitely 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.320 one of ice cubes better. I want to say it's 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.880 not really the star of it, but he's definitely one 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.200 of his better films that I loved. I loved his 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.120 his character, his acting in this. It was so dope. Anyway, Yeah, 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.160 we get into high today. We're gonna, yeah, we're gonna 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:07.400 be doing kind of a kind of review slash analysis 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:12.520 and you know, dig into the movie Higher Learning, directed 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:17.720 by John Singleton, starring Omar Epps, ice Cube, Christie Swanson, 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:22.240 Michael Rappaport, and Lawrence Fishburne. And if you look real close, 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:25.640 you'll spot some cameos by a young Jennifer Connolly and 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.600 a young Regina King and a young Buster Rhymes. It's 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.520 pretty wild the way the way that is, I was 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:35.160 um watching an interview with Michael Rappaport recently, and he 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.440 was just talking about being on that set because like 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.080 he's you know, bike a round for it's like hip 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:42.520 hopped out, you know. Like so he was just saying, 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.640 I was geeking being on like set with ice Cube 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.640 and Buster Rhymes and show. So that that's that's cool. 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.479 But we're gonna check it out. The movie is about 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.080 just to give you a little oh yeah, there's gonna 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.839 be spoilers in this, so we're giving a spoiler warning, 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:57.640 but just to give you a brief rundown before we 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.680 get into the jump. The story follows three students in 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:04.840 their freshman year to a fictional college, California college called 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.280 Columbus University. Uh. The film follows their differing struggles with 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:13.560 identity and the real world, and their storylines you know, 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.200 intermingled and intersect that it all comes to a climax 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:21.440 that's pretty tragic, and you know, I guess the filmmakers 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.240 are hoping that you get some lessons from it and 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.000 it you know, the Mariah was five when it came out, 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:30.640 but I was like twelve, I think, So we had 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:36.040 Higher Learning dubbed on a VHS tape in between like 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.040 Married with Children and three Company and Ship. So it 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:42.440 was like a movie that I watched quite a bit 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.400 when I was younger, which watching it now is kind 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:51.840 of like, but hey, but yeah, it's a pretty heavy movie. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.280 It's got a lot of heavy topics. I mean, we're 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:58.200 going we're jumping all over the place from like race, sexuality, rape, 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:03.280 white supremacy, the generation sheels, divide, class warfare. It's it's 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.520 got a lot to it. So we're just gonna, we're gonna, 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:07.560 we're gonna go down and give our thoughts and then 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:10.000 dig into what this film is about and how it 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:17.320 portrays like college life and also I think like youth activism, um, 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:21.920 and how that differs from how things are now. Um. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.720 So yeah, we'll be right back with that after the jump. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.640 All right, we are back. So, ladies and gentlemen, we 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.400 are talking the film Higher Learning. If you guys haven't 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.640 seen it, I mean we're gonna be spoiling the hell 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.080 out of it. So maybe you want to check it 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.760 out and come back and watch listen to the podcast. 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.720 But first going into it, I've seen it a bunch 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.200 and I've got some thoughts, but this being your first 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.959 time watching it, and then also for you, another thing 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.480 to consider between the two of us that like, you're 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.640 watching it for the first time as an adult. Yeah, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.880 so you know, having a having done and been involved 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.680 in the things that you've been involved in. So what's 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:12.720 your takeaway from I mean, I felt like it was 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:17.319 pretty blunt with like some of its themes, Like specifically, 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.600 I think it's very well encapsulated in the scene where 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.480 ice Cube and like all of the black students are 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.040 chilling at the black hole and he's like, and there's 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.720 the Mexicans and they're the Asians, et cetera, in a 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.520 way that like today you might see more of a 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.240 nuanced presentation, even if you're tackling the same themes of 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:39.120 like you know, racism and um, the stuff like that 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:42.400 on a college campus. But then there were some subtle 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:45.440 elements to it that I thought were really interesting, Like, 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.839 I mean, maybe you could speak to this probably knowing 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.920 the director better than I. John, what else do you do? 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.760 Actually wait to hold on a second so John Singleton 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:58.600 directed Boys and directed Baby Boy. He directed that ill 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:02.240 fated Schaft movie back in two thousand. Perhaps there was 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:03.960 more of us in other films of his that I 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.439 have seen, if I thought there was like a ton 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:10.240 of like subtle justice. Yeah. So like from the scene 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.120 where the white students are at the frat party and 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:15.400 they're standing around and forcing a black girl to drink 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.720 beer from a funnel with her feet in a bucket 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.400 of ice, and the one dude, one white dude, pops 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.720 out and yelled, let's go cap us. Like I was like, 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.800 this is both subtle and not subtle about like some 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:32.640 real ship about like I think, more broadly, the abuse 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:36.679 of black people, uh, you know, stuff like that. Like 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.560 this one character I think it was, was it Remy 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.680 He had like a white zombie poster in his room 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.520 and his in his norm was like white zombies. That's 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:49.040 actually that's a that's a loaded that that whole scene 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.120 actually because his Okay, you know what, well, here's a 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.600 here's a good way to start this, right, how about 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:59.080 we introduce everyone listening, give them a brief cap of 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.480 the main characters the movie. Right, So you've got these 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.880 three kids getting into college for their freshman year. So 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:08.360 the first character is Malik, who's played by Omar Epps. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:14.360 You might remember him from House or Um. Yeah, House, 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:17.439 all right, I sus been a lot of stuff. I 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.600 don't know why I'm blanking out right now. But so 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:24.320 Malik is kind of like an outcast, goes to his 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:26.760 own pace. He's one of those characters. There's a cool 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.520 there's there's a really on the nose scene to introduce him, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:34.560 where the entire schools giving like their school you know 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.319 whatever hand gesture, like you know, like their schools sports 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.800 team hand jesterre and he's walking in the opposite direction 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.560 that everybody's standing, not giving the jester. And he's the 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.800 only person in the frame who's not doing the same 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.720 exact thing as everyone else. So to establish that he's 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:52.800 against the grain, he moves at his own pace. But 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.880 he's a star track athlete, and I guess you could 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.440 say his arc or his struggle in the movie is 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:06.079 he struggling with um being a scholarship athlete and having 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.040 to study and trying to do good in school at 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.319 the same time, as well as I feel gradually throughout 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:18.040 the movie becoming more radicalized in in black revolutionary politics 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:19.839 with the more things that he reads and the more 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.680 people that he's exposed and that's generally yeah yeah yeah. 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.680 And then like the remy guy is like getting radicalized 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.559 into like Nazism. And then ah, the main white girl 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.880 forgot her name, Christian Chris. Yeah, she's like getting into 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.520 like feminism and so as I'll touch on later. It's 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:40.440 interesting these themes and like what they mean about, um, 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:44.720 the way folks have reacted to the um consciousness raising 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.960 or quote or and or like radicalis and potential of 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.960 higher education. Um, it's interesting to see those things play 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.720 on this one. So um, okay, so let's talk about Malik, right, 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.680 So I just think that, you know, just to sum 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.960 up his art, it goes. It goes from him getting 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.440 scolded by ice Cube's character, who will get into later, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.880 but it goes from him getting scolded by ice cubes 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.760 character for wanting to read the autobiography of Frederick Douglas 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:18.280 solely for a class to the last end scene he's 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.880 wearing a black panther shirt and he's moved out of 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.360 the dorms with he's you know what I mean, He's 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.680 he's moved into an all black dorm and and and 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.920 things of that nature. So like, what's your your initial 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.840 like feelings on that character. Do you think that because 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.120 every every character in this movie, every you know, character 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.520 is like an archetype of something, you know what I mean, 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.839 kind of bothered me. But it's also like I get it. 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.600 I mean, it's it's you know what, it's not like 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:51.560 I think if the movie was like an independent film 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:55.760 or like you know, like an art house film, I 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.760 think it probably would have been dealt with, like with 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:04.040 more nuance and so. But John Singleton at the time 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.319 was a big director. It was it was a pretty 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.880 anticipated film as like his frollologue to Poetic Justice and stuff. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:11.840 So it was like a mainstream movie, you know what 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.160 I mean. And I feel like some of some of 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:18.520 those aspects of it, like some of the clunkiness of it, 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.600 I kind of, you know, give it, give it the 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.680 understanding that it's like a glossy movie, theater movie that 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.080 they tried to like you know, ballsy, you know, dealing 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.160 with the subject matter that they were dealing with. But 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.680 you know what I mean, it's kind of it's kind 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:35.400 of like a a diet version of some real ships. 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.960 That makes sense, Yeah, Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, but 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:40.440 I mean I think it's helpful to like with these 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:45.000 archetypes then us see ourselves in the characters, you know, um, 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.520 like be you know, being with like Molik in the 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:50.120 elevator when like Kristin Line grabs her bag and pulls 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.280 it closer her Like we've kind of all been in 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:56.120 that sort of circumstance the professor, I mean, particularly in 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.840 my experience of working as a writing tutor as an undergrad, 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.720 like that whole encounter he has with the Lawrence Fishburn 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.920 character of like well your grammar and ship, like you know, 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.840 he wasn't good enough so you got like anphoni paper 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.080 or whatever, though the content was like really interesting. Is 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.600 something that like is a very real struggle for people 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:20.760 that like professors, people of like how you're learning, um, 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.760 want of discredit people's knowledge based on the way they 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.000 present themselves, UM, which I think is a huge theme 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.680 of the movie, just like people discrediting each other based 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.120 on what they seem like and how they communicate themselves 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.360 and not necessarily like what the people know or who 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.360 they are. What do you think about some of the 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.400 back and forth between Laurence Fishburn's character and the lead 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.760 because Laurence Fishburn's character is he's much more of a 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.360 supporting role in this. I think he's only like five 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.720 scenes or so, but he is a political science professor 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:55.080 that several different you know characters in the movie. They 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.120 attend this class and they have them as a teacher, 0:15:57.120 --> 0:15:58.800 and they have scenes where they're talking to him. But 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:05.000 his main dialogue between Malik in him, I guess could 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.400 be summed up as he's like from an older pull it, 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:13.360 pull yourself up from by your bootstraps generation and Malik 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.840 isn't like I think like Malik is like a gen 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:20.920 X version of like how a lot of a lot 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.000 of young activism. Now it kind of feels I feels 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.920 like he's like a precursor character character of that. Yeah, 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:31.400 Malik is what Joe Rogan would call woke. You know 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:38.040 what I'm saying. Well, really it's what's his name? Fudge? Yeah, okay, 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:43.280 so next next character is Fudge. That's all he goes by. 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.920 There is no other there is no other Oh no, no, 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:56.960 I think calls him Mr White. Yeah. Yeah. Character ice 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:01.480 Cube's character, he's like a super duper senior. He's been 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.399 there for like six or seven years. He's got a 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.400 giant afro. He's super pro black. You don't take no ship. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.760 Party is hard, but he hits the you know, he's 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.040 he's knowledgeable in in in the things that you know 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.520 he talks about. So what are your initial thoughts on 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.359 ice cubes? I mean both, it was both an archetype 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:23.639 and like handled pretty like definitely in that it seemed 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.479 very real, like the moment when they're talking about Frederick 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.760 Douglas and he's like, you've only ever read this for school, 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.800 Like that's like a real conversation I can imagine someone 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.560 engaging in, and like I think it's like a powerful 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.040 lesson for the audience even like oh, like you can 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.280 just learn. First of all, you just learned to learn 0:17:40.280 --> 0:17:44.400 on your own. Also like um, school won't teach you 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:47.520 what you need into a too in a sense, like 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.280 you know the importance of self study. I thought you 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.920 have little gems like that. I was like, okay, already 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:58.159 see you all right. So next character is going to 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:03.359 be Christian. So Christian is kind of if higher learning 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.320 where the matrix and the college is like you know, 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.520 the whole real world rabbit hole ship, then the character 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.199 Christian kind of serves as our neo. You know what 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.399 I'm saying. She's like the vessel by which this like 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:21.560 real world quote unquote situation is explained. She's the fish 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.080 out of water from Orange County. And she doesn't, you know, 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.480 he doesn't know how to socially interact with people. It 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:31.320 doesn't know how to get around all that sort of thing. Um, 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.840 her character aren't I don't even I don't even know 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.880 if it's I guess her character more than anybody else 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:42.119 in the movie is the one who's I guess going 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:47.080 through the identity crisis. Right. Um, So she gets sexually 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.800 assaulted very early on in the movie, and that kind 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.920 of sparks her into activism. But then she starts exploring 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.800 her sexuality. It's not really it's not really dealt with 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:01.840 I guess, like in In I mean, I think they 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:05.600 could have gone in more on that storyline of her, 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:11.560 you know, exploring her bisexuality. They have some fleeting lines, 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.359 but there fleeting scenes between her and Regina King where 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:18.399 you know Regina King kind of express How would you 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:26.480 describe that, like as playful? Playful? Uh, playful, biggest you 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.320 know what I mean? Like, oh girl, you saw y'all 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.080 holding hands and you know what I mean, that sort 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:32.919 of thing. Um, what was what are you? What are 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:36.960 your thoughts on the Christian character? I mean I felt 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.920 like that whole storyline was like problem sort of problematic 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:44.320 and fucked up. Frankly, Like, first of all, I realized, 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.359 I'm gonna watch it goddamn fucking sexual salt scene, so 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.160 that was super fun. And then like the implication that 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.360 like speaking out against sexual solve will drive you into 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.280 the arms of a lesbian like thing. I was like, 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.399 this is pretty whack. Um. That's so that's how to 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.840 speak someone of her character as much as like how 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.440 the characters are written, because I presume they weren't written 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.800 by women, so that in itself it's like, well, what 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:13.960 do you expect? Like, Okay, I mean, that's that's totally fair. 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.200 That was like I was watching it with my roommate 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.200 who's also lesbian, and she had that same like from 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.119 the moment, from the moment that Jennifer Connolly's character showed 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:26.520 up to start consoling her, Like just the way that 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:30.600 Jennifer Connolly's character was acting, my roommate was like, Oh, goddamnit, 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.560 are they about to do what? I think the traumatized 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:39.280 like sexual Salt Survivor, Like I don't know, that's all 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:46.480 the films. In the film's defense, just I'm just I've 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.919 watched the movie a bunch of times, and I watched 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.320 it a few times leading up to now. So in 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:56.119 the film's defense, they do try their best within their 0:20:56.359 --> 0:21:01.440 studio film run time to have that like play out 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:04.480 and not be as you know what I mean, not 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:07.560 to be so oh, I don't I still got to 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.320 get sexual and now I'm a lesbian, you know what 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:11.520 I mean. It didn't. It doesn't really go quite like 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.679 that where it like dives into it like quite head on. 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.680 But it is again clunky, you know what I'm saying 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:22.199 for lack of better words. Um. The next character, and 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:26.119 this is probably I mean just I don't know why 0:21:26.240 --> 0:21:29.800 I feel that this character is probably like the most 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:33.720 interesting to me. But as the character portrayed by um 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:38.920 Michael Rappaport, Remy, who is another fish out of water 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:41.439 from Idaho, but he's much more on like the in 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:47.320 cell you know, in cell type, and he he's pretty 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.600 much the inciting incident of the movie. So I think 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:52.760 in order to explain Remy, We're gonna kind of have 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.280 to just you know, pretty much give you a layout 0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:57.800 of the movie. Right. So we've got all these different 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.840 characters that come into the school. There's the culture clash, 0:22:00.920 --> 0:22:04.560 there's everyone trying to find their identity, and there's this character, Remy, 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.960 with an inciting incident of him being ice Cube's roommate. 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:10.920 To start the movie. He's Fudge's roommate and Fudge has 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:17.280 a party. The party's raging. It's the first days class, 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.879 so Remy calls the campus security to break up the party, 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:27.520 and that you know, begins his ostracized ostracization from you know, 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:30.120 his his dorm and he has to move out dorms, 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.200 and then he ends up getting into fights with frat 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:37.040 boys and finding himself walking alone at night, and he 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:40.200 meets a group of neo Nazis and they bring him 0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:46.240 into their pack. Um Uh. Run in with Malik's character 0:22:46.400 --> 0:22:48.639 leads to him pulling a gun on the leak and 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.280 then running away and dropping out of school, which leads 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.240 to a fight off of campus between Malik and his 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.720 boys in this small skin head click, and then a 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:05.280 retaliation of Remy going to the rooftop of the of 0:23:05.320 --> 0:23:08.720 a building on campus and shooting into the crowd with 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.960 a rifle mass so mass shooting before I guess even 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:19.120 Coliban happened. Um, yeah, so he is the inciting incident 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:23.560 or he causes the inciting incident of the movie. Um, 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.560 what are your takeaway from that character? I mean, that's 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:30.120 it's really spot I mean he's just like an awkward 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.720 white boy, you know that like just doesn't have any 0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:38.639 social skills. Remember that the moment in the frat frat 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.080 party where he's like John talked to this guy sitting 0:23:41.080 --> 0:23:42.680 next to him and he looks over again and the 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:47.080 guy's gone, just sort of like social alienation, Like, yeah, 0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.520 I'll drive people to crazy extremes. I think the isolation 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:54.480 of the pandemic has demonstrated that to puttit of the 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:57.280 way that you and on, etcetera has like taken off 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:02.399 because everybody been sitting in their houses as hell, Like 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:05.919 perfectly normal regular people with social skills that just like 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:11.080 didn't have any social interaction got drawn into like insane conspiracytion. 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:15.400 So do you do you take at all any issue 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:22.080 with the with how the movie chose to Do you 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:24.879 think the movie chose to depict him too sympathetically or 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:26.800 do you think no, I think it's good to humanize 0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:31.360 that perspective because those are people and understanding how we 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.800 how they get into that world. It's like a really 0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:38.600 important lesson for us because I don't know, I think 0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:43.359 it's really easy to Another interesting no, another interesting character 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.840 that's related that that's related to Remy's character is the 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:50.520 character Scott, who's the head of the Skinhead crew that 0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:54.879 brings them in, because he has this like I don't know, 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.440 the way that I was reading it is he's got 0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.439 this sort of there's like this, at least for a 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:05.600 certain portion of the movie, there's like this actual, like 0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:10.000 genuine care or concern that he has with like Remy's. 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:12.520 Like he's he's upset when Remy drops out of school 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:14.200 because he's like, damn, man, you shouldn't dropped that, you 0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.000 know what I mean, Like you should have dropped out 0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:18.240 of school, and you did that. And he actually tries 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:23.159 to like momentarily called the US prevent Reamy from going 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:25.879 out and doing the shooting before ultimately giving him a 0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:27.520 gun and aiding and a betting up. So that's not 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:30.399 a good but I just I just thought that there 0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:36.439 was something, there was something that wasn't cartoonish I guess 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:40.680 about Remy's character and really all of the characters too, 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:43.199 for that example, because as much as everyone was like 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:47.040 an archetype, I don't think that anybody was a stereotype 0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:51.320 in the movie, you know. And and and for me, 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:55.200 I mean it's like I I would have to probably 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.080 think about it more because I didn't even think about 0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:00.600 this this like angle of it. But if I really 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:05.640 sat down and assess, like just like how I formulated 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.520 some of my you know, worldview just growing up as 0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:12.800 like a preteen and an adolescent in a teen you know, 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.040 I'm sure all of the media and all the things 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.399 that I like read and saw, I'm sure all that 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:21.160 influences influenced and built that net. And knowing how much 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.480 I've seen this movie, I mean yeah, I mean like 0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.639 watching it, we rewatching it now recently, like as an 0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:30.800 adult and stuff, there is like a good amount of it. 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:33.720 It's like, man like, that's oh, that's that's where I 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.080 got that idea from him. That's that's talking about. Yeah, 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:40.080 Like I I there's one thing, you know, I I 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:43.239 grew up in a half African household, you know what 0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:51.320 I mean. So two, to put it nicely, like homosexuality, 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.520 especially when I was a little kid, wasn't necessarily like 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:58.920 the most accepted topic or things like that within our 0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.119 household and ship. But I remember being a kid and 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.960 watching that movie, like watching it on my own, watching 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.159 it with my parents, you know what I'm saying, And 0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:11.360 it's like like I remember, like like how it even 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.480 affected them in shape, Like they're like I remember, like 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:18.520 my mother like sneering at some of the lesbian sex 0:27:18.520 --> 0:27:21.879 scenes and then like crying out when the Nazis are 0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:23.920 beating up a gay couple, you know what I mean, 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:26.640 Like through the journey of the movie and the ship 0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:28.960 like that. So you know that's that's that's cool for 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:33.160 some heartwarming points. Again, um so let's let's let's get 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:37.600 into some of the like topics that the movie kind 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.760 of touches on, because it's all over the place. For 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.960 for film buffs and people who were really heavy on 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:46.400 like story structure when they're watching movies and stuff like that, 0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.160 the movie is probably a mess, you know what I'm saying, 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.080 because it is kind of all over the place in 0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.679 terms of the ideas. It's trying to communicate themes and 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.000 all that ship. But we're gonna try to touch on 0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:58.400 a little bit of those first. So one of the 0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.920 things that Mariah had down that also was like compelling 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.280 to me as one of the first real scenes that 0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.640 you really really breaks down everything. And that's when ice 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:14.280 Cube is breaking down the different demographic clicks within the school. 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.720 Like he's he's sitting on the yard and he's like, 0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.840 over there's Chinatown. It's where all the Asian students are. 0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.600 And he's like, over there's Disney World. That's where all 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:24.800 the rich white kids are. He's over there south of 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:28.520 the border. When where the black hole? You know? Um so, 0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:33.080 just so you being a professor, the statement that the 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:39.320 movie made about self segregation and segregation segregated campuses and 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:42.160 how you know, Remy makes the line about it seems 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.680 like everybody's sticking to their own, everybody standing up for 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:46.840 their own Like what are your thoughts? What are your thought? 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.560 So well, I feel like self segregation on college campuses, 0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.040 first of all, I mean there's a degree to which 0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.920 it's not really it's compulsory based on just like the 0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.880 material conditions of various students, Like some students can't get 0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:03.280 in to frast some students can't um like afford to 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.680 live off campus, or when they do, they live in 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:09.800 like just not very nice places and so away in which, 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:14.200 like the economics and vary varying socio economic status is 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.160 of students on college campuses, segregates naturally. But then I 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.720 would also say that, um self segregation is somewhat of 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.480 a defense mechanism for certain groups when they try to 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.680 venture out and you know, go to a frat party 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:32.240 or go be involved in these predominantly white organizations or 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:35.280 you know, experienced my fire aggressions in the classroom, the 0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:37.520 best way they have to defend themselves is to like 0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:42.880 group up and stick together. Um So, yeah, to add 0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.000 to that, so I told you all about the scene 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.480 where Remy and Malik get into a fight and Remy 0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.560 pulls a gun on Malik before he runs away and 0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:56.560 drops out of school. So Malik ends up leaving his 0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.560 dorm you know in his roommates is a white kid. 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:03.440 They band up, forming like a little friendship off off screen, 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:06.960 like you never get to see that friendship really, but 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.520 but apparently they're friends and ship. So when Malik is 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.800 moving out, there's a scene where he's like, hey man, 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.360 you know, I'm not like that. I'm not a white supremacist. 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.640 Bla blah blah. You're you're treating me like like I'm 0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:18.560 that guy or something like that. And Malik makes the 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.760 point of, you know, right now, I just feel more 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:27.360 secure and safe and comfortable around my own people. Yeah, damn, 0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.920 I mean that's that's kind of how it is, though, 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.520 I mean, if you think, I mean even thinking of 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:38.280 like a contemporary and different context example, like you know, 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.520 with regards to gentification, which I'm experiencing a great deal 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:46.560 over in the community I represent, like the the quote 0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:50.160 unquote infiltration of white people makes the legacy residents feel 0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:56.800 less safe because of criminalization, they have wild parties, you know, 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.479 changing even something as simple as the changing traffic patterns 0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:02.200 on the street making people feel less physically safe to 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:04.600 ride their bikes with their kids, right, and so they 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.120 just feel safer if we could just stay segregated and 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.479 like not have white people live over here. Um, so 0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:14.680 do you think that best? Do you think? Like is what? 0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:16.880 Like what is that? Is it? Is that a good thing? 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:18.800 That a bad thing? Is it? Just? Is it just 0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:20.440 a thing? Like? I mean, I think there's a degree 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.400 to which, like, um, there's so many levels to this, 0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:27.240 but like I mean like going back select the initial 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:30.560 form of integration, school integration, you know, even MLK identified 0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:31.960 it is like, oh, I'm not sure we should have 0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.160 fought for this, because it's like integrating our people into 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.480 a burning house and so um. With regards to gentrification, 0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.480 for example, it's like, oh, our neighborhoods are becoming diverse 0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:43.720 and mixed income. It's like, well, not by choice, Like 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.600 people are being forced to live in people and for 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.080 with people and then forced out of their neighborhood by 0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:52.040 these people. And there's this I mean, I guess there's 0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:55.000 a sense to which like folks long for the good 0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.280 old days all the time, like, well, we just wish 0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:00.960 things could go back to the way they were before. Yeah. 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.680 Part of it is not feeling safe, but part of 0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.760 it is because of criminalization. Part of it is awareness 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:10.920 of the displacement that comes with um, new folks moving in. Um. 0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:14.040 There may be a way to which like white supremacies internalized, 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.040 like what we want to stay segregated. The same thing 0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.560 with like like interracial relationships canna look down upon like 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.880 oh you marry us outside, you're the race that it's like, uh, 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.760 did people not fight for and when this like right, 0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:31.240 Like didn't they people enforce antimigenation laws as like a 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.440 means of oppression, and so people internalized dogs have been 0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.160 a couple of people over that. Pretty pretty sure. Yeah, 0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:41.840 so I think it's it's a host of factors. It's 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.240 like anachronistic just wanted to go back good old days, 0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.200 very real threats of like you know, small scale but 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:52.080 very real like violence, and then some perhaps internalized webs 0:32:52.080 --> 0:33:01.400 from zine I don't know. So okay, so now jumping 0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.000 onto let's jump to another team that they hit. So 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:08.800 this one happens even before the issue of segregation, so 0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:11.520 this is off the bat. Like to start the movie off, 0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:16.480 Laurence Fishburn's character calls up a volunteer, which happens to 0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.000 be the leak, and the leak goes and starts reading 0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:22.239 off marked names off of a piece of paper, one 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:26.720 of the names being his and christians Man. And after 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:31.400 he's done reading it, Laurence Fishburn informs everybody whose name 0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.880 was just read that they have their financial aid didn't 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:39.840 go through and they hand them situated. Oh shit, Like 0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.360 just as a side story, my mom used to told me, 0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.840 like the graduation process in Liberia, you know, they make 0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:49.120 you do like like you don't know whether you graduate 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:53.480 until the ceremony, you know, so like like you got 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.600 like you gotta do like some like ceremony like walk 0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.120 and if you get there you didn't graduate, like go 0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.160 straight up tell your friend of like all your families 0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:04.680 and friends you did not graduate. You gotta go walk 0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.680 back and sit down. That's just rutal. But anyway, like 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:12.680 the topic of financial aid and students struggling to make 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.040 ends meet and go to school and stuff like that, 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.879 that's again it's it's very loosely touched on a gank. 0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:22.480 The only resolution that you get out of it is, uh, 0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.880 like one of the financial aid ladies tells Christian that 0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.080 she needs to get a job. Look so in the 0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:31.320 night that you never see her get. In the n nineties, 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.920 tuition at four your public colleges was like three thousand, 0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:38.480 two hundred dollars per year um. And so this is 0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.960 the time in which, like you could conceivably go get 0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:44.120 a job to like cover your expenses that weren't covered 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.720 by your parents or financial aid or you know, student loans, 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:51.560 which were still a relatively new phenomena at that time. Today, 0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.480 tuition had well I guess no, not even today. We're 0:34:55.520 --> 0:35:00.000 thinking like eleven years ago, tuition had risen two person 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:06.279 sent so almost um to ten thousand dollars per year. Okay, well, no, 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.040 I'm trying to I'm getting my day to mix up. Okay, 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.200 it's ten thousand longars per year at two thousand eighteen, 0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:15.440 which is still far far outpasting inflation and wage increases. 0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.759 And so imagine what that conversation would be for Chris 0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.799 kristen orm league today at the Financial Aid office, be 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.960 like she should out of luck, bud, like they got 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:29.560 a loan. I don't know the movie. In the movie 0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.200 when they show that screw, they show like the scream 0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.360 of the financial aid lady screen of how much money 0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:40.080 molikos and it's like three gs. I'm like, yo, best 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:46.440 can we takes three grand to be in one class 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:49.640 at the University of Georgia right now? One class? No, 0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.640 not even one class. Its it cost me three grand 0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.319 to be listed as working on my dissertation. So I'm 0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.160 not even in class. It's just like to qualify that 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:02.239 to like tell the school that I am writing in 0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:06.120 my own time. I mean the financial aid situations, why, 0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.279 I you know, Unfortunately, dropped out of college. You know, 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:14.239 my father wanted to try to pay for school, like 0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.719 out of pocket. Then he started getting sick and he 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.240 wasn't able to so I had to apply for student 0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.840 loans like mid going to school, and I had to 0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:24.640 get a job, and it was just you know, I was, 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.120 I was, I was working, I was going to school, 0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:30.520 and I started, you know, I started doing things outside 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.719 there were of actual interest to me. So you know 0:36:33.840 --> 0:36:39.120 that's kind of alright. So next theme that we are 0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.760 going to jump to that they talk about. So okay, 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.279 so you mentioned, you know, I should have probably given 0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.640 you a trigger warning, not for real, like about the 0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.080 rape scene. I should have seen it popped up on 0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.560 the screen like in the beginning, like all the different 0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:56.000 like you know warning, but like I didn't really until 0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:59.319 it happened. I was like skip skip skip skip. So 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.560 but I mean, um, just like the you know, I know, 0:37:02.640 --> 0:37:08.160 you mentioned the the aspect of the fallout being the 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:13.280 the lesbian relationship that aside, like the initial her getting raped, 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.120 her roommate Regina King finding out about it, the incident 0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.160 between her and the rapists on the telephone where he 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.799 calls Regina King a black bitch, which then gets all 0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:25.719 the black students to go over to the you know, 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:27.759 the frat house and and and pull him out and 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.520 rough him up. What was your like, how do you 0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:34.240 feel felt that that went down? Because it definitely I'm sorry. 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.600 So I will say that that was an interesting moment 0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:42.440 that like really underscored the power of like intersectional solidarity. 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.080 So this guy that is arguing with softness because he 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:50.840 just committed fucking, you know, sexual crime, is also demeaning 0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:53.640 to a black woman that he doesn't even know on 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.760 the phone. And so the homies rolled up and Pete's 0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.520 ass because he was demeaning you know, a black queen. 0:37:59.600 --> 0:38:02.040 It sound her. And so I was like, okay, so 0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:04.479 you got this white girl, you got this black woman, 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:07.680 you got these black dudes. Like y'all come together and 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.400 sure they didn't end up addressing like what happened to Kristen, 0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.920 but like together they could like take like take action 0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:16.879 and funk this guy up that was disrespecting all of them. 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:21.360 That they didn't but you know they didn't know that, right, No, 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.759 they didn't know that, but like like they didn't they 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:25.680 didn't know that she got raped. I know that I 0:38:25.719 --> 0:38:28.120 know that, Yes, yes, I know that so um but 0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.759 they all but like, oh, so all, y'all are getting 0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.960 shopped on by these kinds of people. You might not 0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:35.959 even be aware of the ways in which some people 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.240 are getting shoot on, but you recognize it's not cool 0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:42.160 because maybe in a peripheral ray, someone in your group 0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.880 has been impacted, like the Regina King character, so you 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:48.080 roll up and fucking with his ass and like, I mean, 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:49.760 I wish there would have been more justice for Christen, 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.919 but like, yeah, that is actually one of the best 0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:56.160 scenes in the movie too. It's it's a good mixture 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:58.000 of like, it's you know, it's it's like a good 0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.279 dramatic serious within all. So it's got you know, there's 0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.040 an element to it that's really satisfying to see the 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.879 rapist guy get roughed up by Buster Rymes and ice 0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.360 Cube that I can't I didn't ship. I just you know, 0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:11.440 I just said at the sentence, I just said, come on, man, 0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:13.640 you gotta you want to see this ship. So okay, 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.719 So the you know, there's no way that we can 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:19.600 touch on every single of the little loose threads that 0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.080 they leave in this movie. But the last bit that 0:39:22.120 --> 0:39:25.080 I wanted to touch on is a theme that's ongoing. 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.680 I mentioned to y'all how Malik and Laurence Fishburn's professor 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:32.040 character they have a back and forth several times throughout 0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:36.239 the movie, and for me, it seems to be like 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:41.480 the the main through line for that storyline between those 0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:46.319 two is I'm having a hard time articulating this, but 0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:52.080 it's kind of like, is is our issue economic or 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:56.680 is it racial? With Malik feeling that it's a racial issue, 0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:02.080 and I guess Laurence Fishburn being the older character kind 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:04.359 of you know what I mean, more so encouraging the 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:09.239 idea that it's an economic class struggle that's going on. 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:11.839 And it seems to be seems to be like those 0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:13.760 I mean, obviously it's both. I mean, it just seems 0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.960 to be like those two philosophies between those two characters 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:18.960 are the ones that are budding head. It never gets 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:22.200 a resolution, but at the end of it never gets 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.200 a resolution. But another cool thing that they did with 0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:27.200 it is they don't make it like one way or 0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:32.560 the other, where Laurence Fishburn enlightens of Malik onto you 0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:34.799 know what I mean, onto the class struggle, and it 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.920 doesn't end with Malik showing Lawrence Fishburn, No, it's actually 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.880 a racial thing. They go away from the movie with 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.400 all the things that happened in the movie still believing 0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:45.240 what they believe, know what I mean, and just having 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:49.120 argued it out throughout the movie. But Malik, Laurence Fishburn 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:52.880 is reading Malik's paper that he's been working on trying 0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.120 to perfect throughout the movie and ship like that. But 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:59.239 he gets to this passage that Laurence Fishburn, while still disagreeing, 0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:04.160 he like nods with it, you know, happy that Malik 0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:07.400 is able to express, like what is like the ideology 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.120 that he has a ship like that? And Malik says 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:13.279 this passage that are wants run by Maran says it 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.520 is it is. It is my belief that the dread 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:21.520 Scott decision, if was retried in contemporary American courts, the 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.560 decision would remain the same, meaning that a black man, 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.840 no matter what his class status, would still have no 0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:30.319 no rights that a white man, by law, would be 0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.120 bound in respect. The result would be the same, no 0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:36.000 matter what the law of the land states, because it 0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:40.080 was not written for the benefit of or by African Americans. 0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.040 The credo of justice and liberty for all is a 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.200 falsehood I would say that. I mean, the thing that 0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:49.799 strikes me about this quote, this passage is that if 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:53.160 dread Scott okay, so are you saying if it was 0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:58.120 retried in contemporary American courts? I mean ship Supreme Court today, 0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:01.439 the Supreme Court to day. He might be fucking right. 0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:07.280 I don't know, Um. I mean I think the um, 0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:12.000 I think that the decision remains the same in practice, right, Um, 0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.200 no matter what the law of the land states, as 0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.960 he says, Um, because it was not written for and 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:21.960 by African Americans. It's a falsehood. Um, the Fredo of justice, 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.840 of liberty and justice and liberty for all of fawsood. 0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.399 I mean I think that rings that that feels true 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.880 to a degree today. What do you think about just 0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:35.359 the broader struggle between class or race? I mean, that's 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:39.759 a fundamental struggle in ideological ideology today. The divide and 0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.239 conquered mindset of folks that only want to focus on 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.439 class and folks that only want to focus on race 0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.000 is beneficial to the folks that benefit from both race 0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:54.160 and class oppression. Um. That the that you know, working 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:58.080 class white people see, you know, Mexicans and Niggers as 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.560 their enemies rather than the fact that like, none of 0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:04.480 y'all make it any money because the CEO of Tyson 0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:07.560 Foods is jacking up the price of steaks or whatever 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:12.520 eight percent, blaming inflation and buying another yacht. Um. So 0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:15.839 I think that, yeah, that's that central tension is still 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.359 with us today in the way that people argue about 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.520 what is wrong with society. It is both racism and 0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:25.200 classism and often intertwined um, as seen in the character 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:27.400 of Laurence Fishburne, where it's like, if you have a 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:31.640 certain class privilege, your race doesn't matter as much anymore. 0:43:31.640 --> 0:43:36.439 In fact, you might emphasize um, your bootstrapping this as 0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:40.719 a way of distancing yourself from the people that are oppressed, 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.600 so that you were like, oh, I'm not I'm not 0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:46.440 like them, I'm you know, I'm a self made man, etcetera. 0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:52.080 So yeah, we're still Do you think there's uh, do 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:55.320 you think there's anything being communicated by Laurence Fishburne's character 0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:59.800 being of obvious West Indian immigrant. No. I wondered what degree, 0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:04.640 like white people that aren't very familiar with the ways 0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:09.759 that a pressure to assimilate will sometimes produce like right 0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:14.799 wing thinking. Right wing thinking in some immigrants, um I 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.319 mean and something I mean then not to like essentialize 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:22.200 their experience. Some folks that immigrate from Cuba, Venezuela, etcetera 0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.000 might just be like, Yo, I saw like leftis unveil. 0:44:25.040 --> 0:44:26.840 I don't want nothing to do with that ship. But 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.480 then for a lot of people, it's like you, like 0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:33.480 you must live the American dream, like definitely gets some 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:35.640 people's head that like, fun, I have to be like 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:39.719 hyper capitalists and like ascend the ladder and put my 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.760 foot on the boot on the necks of everyone below 0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:44.600 me in order to like fit in and have made 0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:46.879 it in society. I think that, I mean, it could 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:49.640 be true for like a variety of racial groups as well. 0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:53.360 But I want to say that like his character was 0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:58.239 an archetype of a certain kind of um immigrant. Yeah, 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:02.040 I think you nailed it on the head about the 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.959 you know, racing classes. It's obviously both. But I gotta 0:45:05.000 --> 0:45:08.560 tell you, yo, I I really you know, you know 0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:11.200 how like you have that like you know, how like 0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:14.040 you got like that racism radar when like some shifts 0:45:14.040 --> 0:45:17.160 going off and you're like it's like it's not obviously 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:19.759 like some racist ship and you kind of have an 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.840 inkling in the back of your head, like, man, I 0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:24.520 think the ship might be racist, yet I know something 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:30.600 about like this new breed of like white leftists. Oh 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:35.120 that's like, hey, the only thing that matters is class. 0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.359 Nothing else matters, nothing else is of important. Don't bring 0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.960 identity politics, don't bring it up. Don't bring it up 0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.719 that it shouldn't be about racist. That shipped to me 0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:48.239 seems weird. I don't know. It rubs me wrong and 0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.360 I don't funk with it, Like, but what do you think? Like, 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.960 am i am? I just is that like me just 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:56.560 like not really having a full grasp on the issues 0:45:56.800 --> 0:46:00.000 or is there something to that this It just feels weird, 0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.960 you know what I mean. It's like when yeah, yeah, 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:08.520 like the so called leftists that are like Joe Rogan's awesome, 0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.160 you know what I mean? That's well yeah, I mean, 0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:15.200 oh fuck, I mean you know what I'm working about. 0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:22.400 It's like, yeah, well, where we are we should we 0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.080 should we close it up? Yeah, let's wrap it up, 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:28.400 Let's wrap it up. You know what, Just we're just briefly, 0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:31.200 you know, this isn't really gonna be a music discussion. 0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:37.400 They just briefly I'll mention the soundtrack for Higher Learning. Yeah, 0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:43.560 if I gotta give my honest opinion, it stinks. It's 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:48.560 not good. I'm giving up the title song by ice 0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:52.360 Cube Higher Learning. It's I like it, you know, the 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.040 Rafael Sadique joined on there's pretty flying. I mean, you 0:46:56.040 --> 0:46:59.640 know one thing I will give the soundtrack props for 0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:05.000 is that it definitely tries to capture the eclectic flavor 0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.879 of the movie, because, like we're talking, we're going from 0:47:07.960 --> 0:47:11.880 ice Cube and Raffael Sadiq to Tory Amos doing R E. 0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:15.080 M covers and Liz Fair. I even think Tory Amos 0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:16.640 got two songs on that fucking thing, you know what 0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:19.640 I mean. But all in all, it's it's not really 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.240 that good at the soundtrack. I mean, we we've discussed 0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.399 some movies before and some movie soundtracks, but just given 0:47:25.440 --> 0:47:28.239 it to you real like we we can't. We can't 0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:30.799 cue that music discussion beat to talk about the Higher 0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:37.480 Alerting soundtrack. It don't it don't have enough gun. Yeah, alright, 0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.600 let's I guess that's it for this week. Yeah, so 0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.359 I I just want to plug I got a new 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.720 single that came out yesterday. It's called Bell Ringer Um 0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:47.440 if we could go ahead play it at the end 0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:50.279 of the show. Go check it out. Music videos up 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:54.080 on YouTube. Um you can go to a bit dot 0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:57.640 lee slash lf Bell Ringer to stream it or go 0:47:57.760 --> 0:48:00.600 pre order the album. Yeah, gotcha it out. That's my 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:03.520 rats for this week. I got a new video that 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.880 just came out too, for that song so nine one 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.920 two that I can remember. Yeah, just dropped a new 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.200 video for that, so y'all check that out. I'm sure 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.359 Maria put the link on something like that and the thing. 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:19.759 All right, y'all, I guess get your earbuds ready and 0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:24.040 get your face properly prepared to be melted off, because 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:26.799 we're about to jam that new Lingua Frankie, let's get 0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:41.040 it Ryan, I ain't never cheated. They never needed a 0:48:41.040 --> 0:48:43.880 lot of cheese, but at the mercy and not about 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.040 the lot. I'm thirsty walking in the luger mark. This 0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:49.359 Asian lady spotted me, like what ship with us? Nika 0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:51.480 starting tick a target on me? If you got I'm 0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.200 seeing a cup of bottle that water be concoction by 0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:56.680 the tram memory, show me some karaderie. We both have 0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.520 probably seen some muffle robberies and no less for keeping 0:48:59.520 --> 0:49:02.800 this teckle shart God, don't pray you that are ride it? 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:06.439 You die, don't pay you better ride it. I die, 0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:12.160 don't pay you better ride it. If I die, don't 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:15.120 play you better ride there. If you do, don't pay 0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:17.799 you that a ride if if my time, don't pray 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:22.920 you better ride it. I'm Luca cooler with nothing. I'm 0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.600 losing counter the collar takuzie who house, I'm rumbling to 0:49:25.760 --> 0:49:27.919 the center the sound of the class a gun gout. 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:29.919 You're cropping like where they very you want the ground. 0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:32.560 I'm down in buday that I'm not like the buck 0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:35.000 be ch ot with. I'm the have bart bart bitch. 0:49:35.000 --> 0:49:37.279 Shut me off. Belaia takes several feet on the part, 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:40.160 then put me and want you know without starting this, 0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:42.320 please call the places I don't in the part of 0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:45.960 car and he die. Don't pray you better right? If 0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:48.839 I do, don't pray you that are ride it side 0:49:48.920 --> 0:49:54.439 that don't pay you better ride it. If I die, 0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.920 don't pray you better ride it. Die, don't pay it 0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:01.440 better right. If you're die, right, you better ride it. 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:07.560 You know that groppy for keeping this single shot right? 0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:10.360 You know the grippery for keeping the single shot. You 0:50:10.360 --> 0:50:15.759 know that grippery for keeping this single shot. You know 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.919 that where we were keeping the single shot, that gropp 0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.680 we we're keeping the sidle shot. You know the grippy 0:50:21.719 --> 0:51:31.720 were keeping the single shot right right, Rye, don't you better? 0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:44.640 Don't done? That ship is what I call the definition 0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:48.920 of dough. Appreciate it work. My friend looking forward and 0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:52.440 on the streets is looking forward to this album. Everybody's 0:51:52.560 --> 0:51:55.640 everybody's waiting for it. So I'm sure you're gonna knock 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:57.839 it out the part with us, but we gotta go. 0:51:58.000 --> 0:52:00.640 My name is Dope, not Frank. And you have been 0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:05.960 listening to Waiting on Reparations. Take your sweet time, no problem, 0:52:05.960 --> 0:52:10.480 It's cool. See y'all next week. Listen to Waiting on 0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:14.000 Reparations on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:15.400 wherever you get your podcasts.