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Speaker 2: The seven and three Bills are in Houston to take

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Speaker 2: on the five and five Hexans from NRG Stadium. Laid

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Speaker 2: motion from Hawes hand off to Cook, cuts it inside.

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Speaker 2: He's got the first out through a.

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Speaker 3: Hole thirty twenty ten five touchdown James Cook forty five

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Speaker 3: yards to the end zone for a Buffalo touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Two receivers to the right, one to the left, same formation,

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Speaker 2: shoving the game.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna take Noah.

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Speaker 2: It's a play action fake a fire to a wide

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Speaker 2: Christian Kirk for a two yard touchdown. Reception fields it

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Speaker 2: at the two, out to the ten. Fifteen coming up

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Speaker 2: the middle, twenty five, bounces off a.

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Speaker 3: Tackle, spins and he's out to the forty, cuts it

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Speaker 3: back fifty.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go the distance. Happy birthday, Ray.

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Speaker 3: David's all the way for a flip into the end

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Speaker 3: zone for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Back to pass looking left, fires and into the end

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Speaker 2: zone for the touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Is Jaden Higgins.

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Speaker 2: Pocket collapsing, fires and it's complete for a first down,

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Speaker 2: but the ball is fuffled by Shakir scooped up by

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Speaker 4: Way is Jalen Reid the safety.

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Speaker 2: It's a turnover for Buffalo as the fuffle was forced

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Speaker 2: by Kaylan Bullock the safety rush Alan throws it over

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Speaker 2: the middle. It's complete to Palmer hooking ladder and they're

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Speaker 1: Of pounds at the twenty six yard line. The hooking

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Speaker 2: The shotgun Ty Johnson to his right late orbit motioned

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Speaker 2: from Shakir. Alan back to pass, has to throw it

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Speaker 4: There is a flag on the plane.

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Speaker 5: Passing the ferns on the office from the thirteen nott

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Speaker 6: Can for seven.

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Speaker 7: So it's a turnover and the Texans are gonna kneel

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Speaker 7: this thing out where eighteen seconds left and Houston repeats

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Speaker 7: as a house of horror for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: They have not won here in nineteen years.

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Speaker 2: That is your game, rewind And I don't have the

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Speaker 2: on that one because it's not in the rundown brought

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Speaker 2: dot org. And the game performance probably just as ugly

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Speaker 2: as my read of the sponsor.

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Speaker 1: You know, I I.

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Speaker 2: Was admittedly concerned going into that game because I saw

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Speaker 2: a lot of elite talent on Houston's defensive side of

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Speaker 2: the ball, similar to some of the elite talent on

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Speaker 2: Atlanta's defensive side of the ball. The only difference between

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Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons defense and the Houston Texas defense for

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Speaker 2: me is Atlanta has to blitz to generate pressure. Now

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Speaker 2: they're effective in doing that, but they're the highest blitzer

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Speaker 2: eight team in the league. Houston is so talented they

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Speaker 2: don't need to blitz. They can get it done with

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Speaker 2: their front four, and they did in historic fashion as

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Speaker 2: it pertains to Josh Allen. Because Josh Allen was sacked

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Speaker 2: eight times, that's a career high in a single game.

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Speaker 2: He was hit another twelve, and he was pressured on

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Speaker 2: better than forty three percent of his dropbacks. The Texans

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Speaker 2: in this game had eleven tackles for loss. Eleven tackles

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Speaker 2: for loss in one game is a gigantic number. I

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Speaker 2: think it just speaks to the way they won at

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Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage last night and controlled the tenor

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Speaker 2: and tempo of that football game. Buffalo on offense also

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Speaker 4: And people can.

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Speaker 2: Say all they want about Buffalo's run defense and bag

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Speaker 2: Last night, Buffalo's defense literally held the Bills in the game.

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Speaker 2: I know they're playing a backup quarterback, they should do that.

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Speaker 2: They didn't allow any big runs to leak out, which

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Speaker 2: field goal on five second hand possessions. Houston was two

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Speaker 1: It was rough first half for the Bills defense. They

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Speaker 1: to convince myself I'm an exact reverse barometer, because I

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Speaker 1: was not like you. I told Greg Cosell on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the day of the game, I said, the Bill's gonna

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Speaker 1: score thirty. They score thirty on everybody, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, except when they're on the road and they're playing

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Speaker 2: a good defense, right.

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Speaker 1: It was. That was what we speak about a lot

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about great defense. As I said it

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Speaker 1: with Maddy on the post game last night, if you

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Speaker 1: can get quick, consistent pressure with just four guys rushing,

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Speaker 1: that is a magic elixir and the ripple effects go

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Speaker 1: all the way through your defense. And that's what happened

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Speaker 1: last night. This Houston Texans team defensively looked exactly like

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Speaker 1: the Legion of Boom Boom and the Super Bowl against

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. It looked like the two thousand Ravens in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl against the Giants, looked like the eighty

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Speaker 1: and then people are well, nobody can get open it. Listen,

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Speaker 1: they got seven guys dropped into coverage. Every play, it

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Speaker 1: gets crowded back there fast. When you have to throw

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Speaker 1: you gotta throw it, you want to throw it past

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Speaker 1: They just crowded back there. So that ability to get

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Speaker 2: You also have to remember that they have a first

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they've got some guys.

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Speaker 2: And they got Kaylin Bullock, who was a safety I

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Speaker 4: That kid has two interceptions and a forced fumble.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot in this game that that leans

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Speaker 1: on the axioms that Brownie and I talk about all

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Speaker 1: your defense. Okay, they got their CJ. Stroud and they thought, Okay,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then drafted a guy and then.

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Speaker 1: They start going after defensive players high in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Can't use as much motion, you can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do as much because you can't hear

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Speaker 1: Texans team, they'll travel better than the Bills will because defense,

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Speaker 1: you can talk at a normal voice when the other

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Speaker 1: they did in a big way last night.

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Speaker 2: And the game was not without injury, as the Bills

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Speaker 2: lost a few players to injury in this game. Torell

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Speaker 2: his own end. Texans have allowed fewer than twenty points

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Speaker 2: in eight games this season. That is the most in

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Speaker 2: for the first eleven games of the season in their

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Speaker 2: those eight sacks against the Bills last night. They also

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Speaker 2: lost four of their last seven after starting the season

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Speaker 4: With their Week.

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Speaker 2: Twelve loss, they will enter Week thirteen at least one

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Speaker 2: and a half games back of New England for first

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Speaker 2: below twenty points in this season. They only had two

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Speaker 2: stats that I saw on the Houston defense that were

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Speaker 2: perhaps most impressive. The Houston Texans defense right now is

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Speaker 2: allowing fewer points than the Legion of Boom defense in

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Speaker 2: Seattle back in twenty twelve. Yeah, yeah, they are a

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Speaker 1: They looked at yep, goodness gracious.

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Speaker 2: So looking at the New York Times playoff machine, as

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Speaker 2: I said on the broadcast last night, the Bills chances

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Speaker 2: of winning the division took a serious hit.

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Speaker 4: How serious?

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Speaker 2: According to the New York Times playoff Machine, after the

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Speaker 2: Bills winning the AFCAS dropped to nine percent nine percent

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Speaker 9: And the answer is, you know, we talked about injuries.

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Speaker 2: I felt, I felt effort and juice was there. I

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Speaker 2: think in the first half defensively, the tackling was poor,

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Speaker 2: so that resurfaced. I think there is an athleticism issue

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Speaker 2: with the defense. I don't think there is enough speed

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Speaker 2: and athleticism on the defense, and that inherently will keep

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Speaker 2: defensive players from getting to the position they need to

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Speaker 2: to break down and make a proper tackle, a form tackle.

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Speaker 2: So they're racing to get to a spot that their

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Speaker 2: athleticism does not allow them to reach. And now instead

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Speaker 2: of breaking down and making a solid form tackle, they're

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Speaker 2: reaching into a hole with an arm. Maybe they're dropping

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Speaker 2: their head because they're lunging to go get the ball

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Speaker 2: carrier and it's not a solid form tackle. This team

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Speaker 2: is not fast enough and athletic enough on defense as

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Speaker 2: a whole. In my estimation, it has to be a

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Speaker 2: major priority, and not only on defense. I think they

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Speaker 2: need to get faster on offense as well. James Cook

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Speaker 2: is a dynamic player. He shows you what speed can

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Speaker 2: do for your offense. He's a home run hitter for

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Speaker 2: this team. They need a lot of that on defense

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Speaker 2: because they do not have a guy that can scream

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Speaker 2: off the edge as a pass rusher. They have speed

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Speaker 2: to power rushers. Nobody scares offensive tackles on this team

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Speaker 2: because nobody is a threat to beat them around the

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Speaker 2: edge with pure blinding speed. I think that this defense

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Speaker 2: is in desperate need of speed and athleticism, and it's

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Speaker 2: why they have been unable to fix the problems that

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Speaker 2: have plagued.

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Speaker 4: Them all season long, just how I feel. So, I

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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have some players that are fast and

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Speaker 2: athletic enough, I just don't think they have to think

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Speaker 2: enough of them.

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Speaker 1: I think it does speak to your point that when

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Speaker 1: Bishops start playing all the time, he's drafted because of

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Speaker 1: his athleticism He's got, He's a tremendous athlete. And of

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Speaker 1: course when Max got on the field, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you saw an uptick in their production.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And that's not by accident, and it's not by accident,

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Speaker 1: and it also had it had some ripple effects. Their

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Speaker 1: entire secondary started playing well. And that's with Jordan player,

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Speaker 1: who you know is long in the tooth. They they

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Speaker 1: helped him play better and he helped them mentally. Of course,

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Speaker 1: as we've heard about and we've heard you know that

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Speaker 1: story about how Bishop has really been aided by Poyer

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Speaker 1: being out there. But when those two guys, Harriston and

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Speaker 1: Bishop got plugged in and started playing big snap counts,

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Speaker 1: the athleticism was very noticeable in the back end. And

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Speaker 1: because Benford can play, and you know, so those two

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Speaker 1: added and all of a sudden, you're the majority of

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Speaker 1: your secondary went way up athletically and you could tell

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Speaker 1: the difference. So that speaks to Brownie's point.

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Speaker 2: I mean the starting safeties for the Houston Texans. Our

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Speaker 2: second year player Kayln Bullock out of USC I believe

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Speaker 2: he was a third round second or a third round pick.

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Speaker 2: The other starting safety is a sixth round rookie from

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Speaker 2: Penn State, Jalen Reed.

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Speaker 4: Youth an athleticism.

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Speaker 2: They're starting corners third year player out of Georgia, Kamari Lassiter,

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Speaker 2: fourth year player out of LSU, Derek Stingley. There is youth,

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Speaker 2: speed and athleticism on the back end of their defense. Now,

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Speaker 2: it also helps when you're drafting at the top of

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Speaker 2: the draft because you haven't been good for a while.

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Speaker 2: And look, Houston made a decisive move in that draft

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Speaker 2: a few years ago. They get CJ. Stroud and they

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Speaker 2: also moved up. I believe they traded up a spot

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Speaker 2: maybe two to take Will Anderson Junior. He was the

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Speaker 2: second or third pick in the draft, and then the

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Speaker 2: same draft they get c. J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud.

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Speaker 2: So when you have that ability to make two picks

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Speaker 2: in the top fifteen, it's going to transform your franchise.

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Speaker 2: Provided you make the right choices they did. They haven't

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Speaker 2: won probably as much as they would like.

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Speaker 11: C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud has had his struggles in his second and third season,

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Speaker 2: but their defense is absolutely lights out. We've got to

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Speaker 2: take a break here, but more of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: when we return on a Buffalo Football Friday. Here on

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Speaker 2: one Bill's live by Kilida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap, four man rush. Allen throws it over

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Speaker 2: the middle. It's complete to Palmer hooking ladder and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna get the first down up the sideline of Shakir

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Speaker 2: and he's out of pounds at the twenty six yard line.

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Speaker 1: The hooking ladder, Baby.

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Speaker 2: Your player of the game is presented by high Mark

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Speaker 2: Blue Cross Blue Shield. High Mark is the official health

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Speaker 2: plan of the Buffalo Bills because life Khalil Shakiir with

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Speaker 2: eight catches for one hundred and ten yards. Those were

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Speaker 2: both game highs in the loss to the Texans. Gonna

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Speaker 2: get right back to the phones, though. At eight oh

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Speaker 2: three zero, five point fifty one, eight of eight, five

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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty the numbers to get on board,

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Speaker 2: and we go to Abraham on a cell.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Abraham, Hey, guys.

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Speaker 12: I just wanted to hear you guys talk a little

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Speaker 12: bit about Ray Davis and the kick return game and

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Speaker 12: one question on that. I wasn't able to watch the

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Speaker 12: game last night. They're using him on punt returns or not,

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Speaker 12: and maybe the differences between punt and kick returning. You know,

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Speaker 12: he did really well in the kick returns against the

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Speaker 12: Buccaneers as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair question.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pivot to the special team's ace here and

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Speaker 2: let him handle the differences between kicking punt return.

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Speaker 1: The primary difference is how easy it is to catch

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Speaker 1: the ball or feel the ball kick off. It's very

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Speaker 1: easy to catch, and you've got a lot of space

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Speaker 1: to do it, particularly in this day and age. There's

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Speaker 1: nobody standing around you. You's got to wait for the ball.

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Speaker 1: Nobody can move until you catch it, so it's no pressure.

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Speaker 1: Catch the ball and let's go. Punt is one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty degrees from that. You have no idea who's

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Speaker 1: coming down there. You can kind of hear him sometimes

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Speaker 1: you can peek at him. But the more you watch

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Speaker 1: the guys cut the punt and how close they are,

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Speaker 1: the less time you get to catch a ball that's

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Speaker 1: dropping out of the sky and maybe tumbling, maybe spiraling,

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Speaker 1: coming at a steep angle, and it's really hard to catch.

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Speaker 1: It's coming hard. Punts are hard to catch, and you

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Speaker 1: got no space to do it in and you got

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Speaker 1: no protection. So there's the difference kickoffs.

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Speaker 2: And why might a running back position wise not be

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Speaker 2: a great fit for punt return.

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Speaker 1: Well, they can be. It's because I tell you this

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Speaker 1: all the time. Punt returning is Yes, it's about feeling

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Speaker 1: the punt and being able to run with it and

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Speaker 1: all of that. But if you're a candidate to be

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Speaker 1: back there, you've already got all that right. That's a given.

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Speaker 1: That's the floor. What makes you better and better and

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Speaker 1: better is your ability to one A, always do it

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time. You always catch the ball.

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Speaker 1: You always end the play with the ball in your possession.

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Speaker 1: You always And the second thing is make the perfect decision.

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Speaker 1: You always make the right decision. Shakira made a really

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Speaker 1: good decision on a punt return last night where the

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Speaker 1: ball bounced. Two guys were down on the goal line,

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Speaker 1: they were gonna down it. He caught it on the

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Speaker 1: bounce in front of them after they had gone by it.

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Speaker 1: He ran in front of him, caught the bounce and

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Speaker 1: got an extra six or seven yards and turned that

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Speaker 1: into maybe a fifteen yard swing and field position. Those

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Speaker 1: kind of decision making things are what you do it.

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Speaker 1: Some guys do that really well and some guys just

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Speaker 1: never get it. You can bet the reason Shakira is

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Speaker 1: back there is because of his sure handedness, first and

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Speaker 1: foremost his ability to catch the ball and end the

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Speaker 1: play with it. Now, it flies in the face of

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Speaker 1: the fumble he had last night, but that was on

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Speaker 1: a pass, not a punt. That is always job one

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Speaker 1: when a special team's play happens. The object is to

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Speaker 1: end the play with the ball in your possession. That's

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Speaker 1: the floor. Everything you get after that's gravy, and it

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Speaker 1: comes from the decision makings of the return man.

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Speaker 4: Let's get back to the phones and to Michael in California.

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Speaker 4: What's up, Michael?

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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, gentlemen, hate sorry if you've already spoke about

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Speaker 13: this out in Cali. I'm a little bit behind the

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Speaker 13: telecast here, but I've got two things I wanted to

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Speaker 13: hit up. The number one, it felt like some home

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Speaker 13: cooking last night with that play clock going down right

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Speaker 13: at on the final drive. To me, I couldn't understand

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Speaker 13: why they wouldn't just stop the game and correct that,

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Speaker 13: because you look at all what Josh.

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Speaker 1: Has to do.

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Speaker 13: He has to get to play in from the coaches,

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Speaker 13: he's got to convey it to his team. He's got

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Speaker 13: to get the team lined up and set up. He's

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Speaker 13: got to read the defense, and then he's got to

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Speaker 13: set his protection, all while he's oh, he's also dealing

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Speaker 13: with proud noise, and now he's got to count the

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Speaker 13: forty in his own head. Doesn't that seems like crazy

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Speaker 13: to me. So if you look at that one, I

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Speaker 13: think it was second and third down, they ran two

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Speaker 13: plays within fifteen seconds because I bet they felt panicked

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Speaker 13: on the inside. They didn't know how much time they

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Speaker 13: had left on the playplock. That's not fair. If the

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Speaker 13: head ref hadn't gotten injured, he probably would have had

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Speaker 13: to wear with all this. Hey let's fix the clock

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Speaker 13: and give these guys a fair chance. But I don't

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Speaker 13: hear anyone talking about that, And it felt like, Uh,

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Speaker 13: it really made a difficult thing hard. You're playing against

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Speaker 13: the number one defense in the world and now you

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Speaker 13: don't have a play clock. Not cool. Second option. The

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Speaker 13: second thing I wanted to bring up was yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 13: I'm sorry, everyone's going to talk about it today, but yeah, Chris,

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Speaker 13: you nailed it. Defense is slow. They're small, Brandon Bean,

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Speaker 13: you know, my gosh, we had a chance to. We

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Speaker 13: keep wafting on some of these drafts. You know, like,

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Speaker 13: I'm sorry, man, cam Coleman. I thought he was the dude.

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Speaker 13: He's not. He's not the guy. Also, you know, I

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Speaker 13: remember that now his name is going. It's scaping the

633
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Speaker 13: defensive back, cornerback that we we we whiffed one as well.

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Speaker 13: He's gone, Yeah, there you go, Thank you guys. And

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Speaker 13: so I don't know, man, it's it's love this team

636
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Speaker 13: my whole entire life. I'm out here amongst all these

637
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Speaker 13: Rams fans and they're all kicking me in the teeth today.

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Speaker 13: So I'm not real happy about it.

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Speaker 2: I get it, Michael, keep on keeping on, stay strong

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Speaker 2: out there. As Steve says, you're a pilgrim in an

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Speaker 2: unholy land. The playclock was a problem at the end

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Speaker 2: of the game. It was not functioning. Had I usually

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Speaker 2: call the playclock when it's down under five to our

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Speaker 2: listeners when I'm calling the game, I was unable to

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Speaker 2: do that. The referee that filled in as the head ref,

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Speaker 2: Roy Ellison, who was the umpire, He said, obviously they're

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Speaker 2: going to keep time on the play clock on the

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Speaker 2: field and they were going to try to communicate it

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Speaker 2: to the offense. But with that noise, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: the ref is shouting at the quarterback ten seconds, I

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Speaker 2: don't think there's any way in hell he's hearing that. Now,

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Speaker 2: all of that being said, I think it was only

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Speaker 2: about a three minute window in time where the play

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Speaker 2: clock was down. They did get it back working again

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Speaker 2: while the Bill still had the ball.

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Speaker 1: Right, I think it's maybe two or three play not

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Speaker 1: even I don't even know if it was three where

658
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Speaker 1: it was no there was no play clock going and

659
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Speaker 1: you're right home cooking. I was thinking the same thing

660
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Speaker 1: of like, man, I want to to take for a

661
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: team to sabotage the play clock in a moment like

662
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: that when it's really important. I'm just but what better

663
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Speaker 1: time to do it? No question?

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm just gonna say this, though, the Bills have

665
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: had a persistent problem through the course of this season

666
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Speaker 2: where plays get in late. It's been more frequent on

667
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Speaker 2: the road, and it happened more than half a dozen

668
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Speaker 2: times last night where there are late substitutions, they're not

669
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Speaker 2: breaking the huddle until about eleven or twelve seconds left,

670
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Speaker 2: and that just speeds everyone up. Moreover, it gives the

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Speaker 2: defense an advantage because they know you have to snap

672
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: it when there's two or one second on the play clock,

673
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: and they already have an inherent advantage at home with

674
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Speaker 2: the crowd noise benefiting them, and they could just look

675
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: at the play clock and not even listen to your

676
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: cadence and know when to take off. So there are

677
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: a multitude of reasons why you have to get the

678
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Speaker 2: play call in quickly and get up to the line.

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Speaker 2: I mean, heck, Jared Goff's career changed dramatically with the

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Speaker 2: LA Rams when Sean McVay got there because he was

681
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: calling play so fast it allowed GoF to call to

682
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Speaker 2: play in the huddle, get up to the line of scrimmage,

683
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: and Sean mcvayh could still talk to him in his

684
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Speaker 2: headset to tell him what the defensive coverage was before

685
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Speaker 2: the play, before the communication device shuts off with fifteen

686
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Speaker 2: seconds left in the play clock. He would literally get

687
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Speaker 2: him up to the line at twenty four to twenty

688
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Speaker 2: three seconds, so he could talk to him for eight

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Speaker 2: seconds and tell him what he was looking at.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that does make a difference, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: It happened a lot last night, half a dozen times,

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Speaker 2: including the fourth down at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: That's not for nothing, habit. And I'll say this, I

694
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Speaker 1: thought at times last night they would get benefit out

695
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: of going faster as an offense, the Bills would. Now,

696
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: it's hard on the road, I get it. But when

697
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: you simplify your language to go fast, you got to

698
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: simplify your language, right, you got to start name and

699
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: plays and formations. But you can't. You know, you don't

700
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Speaker 1: shift and move as much as you do when you're

701
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: going fast, particularly, and then when you abbreviate your verbiage,

702
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Speaker 1: you also make it more difficult to add motions, add shifts.

703
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: But you also make it that much more difficult for

704
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Speaker 1: the defense to do the same to sugarcoat and to

705
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: give you what you know to disguise. And plus you

706
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: get them on the field, you get them going fast,

707
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Speaker 1: you take some starch out of the pass rush when

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Speaker 1: they have to go three or four plays right in

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Speaker 1: a row. I saw a first and second down happen,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the Bills are in

711
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: third and eight or whatever, and all of a sudden,

712
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: now they're bringing in those the front line front four.

713
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 1: You know, they take them out. After the Bills get

714
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: one hard fought first down, the top flight pass rushers,

715
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: they all go to the sidelines, sit for two plays,

716
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Speaker 1: and on the next third down they're right back on

717
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: the field fresh. That's a problem. I think you go

718
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: fast once in a while on these defenses to see

719
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Speaker 1: if you can get an edge at least you if

720
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Speaker 1: you don't, if you don't substitute, you can go as

721
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Speaker 1: fast as you want and they won't hold the game up.

722
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Speaker 1: And that's something I think the Bills need to have

723
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: an answer for when they go forward. At least have

724
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Speaker 1: that in their toolbox to going forward. And I thought

725
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: they wish If they do have it in their toolbox,

726
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Speaker 1: I wish they would have gone to it a little

727
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: bit more last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get back to the phones here at eight

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Speaker 2: oh three, five point fifty one eighty eight, and.

730
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Speaker 4: Let me see who's been waiting here the longest. We

731
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Speaker 4: go to Michael out in Ohio. What do you got

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Speaker 4: for his Michael, Hi.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, My point to the call, Skinner was, uh, look

734
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 5: at what was actually working last night for the Bills,

735
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 5: and it's when they did the quick release passes, the

736
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Speaker 5: short passes. And I'm thinking when I'm thinking about this,

737
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Speaker 5: I'm thinking what Tom Brady used to do to teams,

738
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Speaker 5: and I think if that's what they used to do, is.

739
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Speaker 10: Keep keep like a quick.

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Speaker 5: Defense like Houston. If you keep doing that from the

741
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 5: beginning of the game, that's your primary thing. You you

742
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Speaker 5: basically keep them on the field and you wear out

743
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: a quick defense. And actually that's I remember all the

744
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: way back to when the Bills were in the four

745
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 5: Super Bowls and there were teams that they would they

746
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 5: would do that. I mean, when when you got a

747
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 5: quick defense but they're not necessarily huge, you can wear

748
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 5: them out by keeping them on the field. And they

749
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 5: were having success last night with those kind of passes.

750
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Speaker 5: Even the one that kind of secure dropped okay, but

751
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Speaker 5: he cost some of them too, And so I just

752
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Speaker 5: wanted to run that by you. You guys see what

753
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Speaker 5: you think.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in favor of that.

755
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Speaker 2: I was hoping going into the game that they would

756
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Speaker 2: use the offensive approach that they did in the Chiefs

757
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Speaker 2: game here at home.

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Speaker 4: A few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: There was a concerted effort to get the ball out

760
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Speaker 2: of Josh's hands quickly, and it worked very well pretty

761
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Speaker 2: much from start to finish in that game. I think

762
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Speaker 2: this defense is a step up in weight class. I

763
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: don't know that they would have been as successful, but

764
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Speaker 2: I think they certainly would have had more success. And

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Speaker 2: I certainly know that Josh wouldn't have been sacked eight

766
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Speaker 2: times and hit another twelve times.

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Speaker 4: And they did it on occasion.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they did it nearly enough night. That

769
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Speaker 2: should have been the focal point of this offensive plan

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Speaker 2: in my estimation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did quite a bit of it, no question.

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Speaker 1: But they could not because you're right, they couldn't drop

773
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Speaker 1: back five steps and throw the football. He couldn't get

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Speaker 1: it off, and so you got to have answers for that.

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Speaker 1: And the quick passing game seemed to work for them.

776
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: But you start teaching the defense things really fast when

777
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Speaker 1: you do that, and it's not very long before they

778
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: start jumping in jumping routes. I think that's one thing

779
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: you can be afraid of. But if you can't drop

780
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Speaker 1: back to throat, you've got to do something. Yeah, Yeah, And.

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Speaker 4: Even if you had.

782
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Speaker 2: What amounted to a level of overconfidence in your offensive

783
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: line that your five could block there four, it became

784
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: patently obvious early in that game that that was not

785
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: going to function well and they had to make another

786
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 2: adjustment there, and for the most part, they chose not to.

787
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Speaker 2: And I understand you want to get more people out

788
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: in routes when they're dropping seven, so you have more

789
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: options for Josh, but you also have to keep Josh

790
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Speaker 2: from getting killed. And I think there's a balance there too,

791
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Speaker 2: and I don't think they struck it last night.

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Speaker 4: Got to take a break.

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Speaker 2: and leading us off in this segment is Dan in Rochester.

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Speaker 4: What's up? Dan?

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Speaker 8: Hey, Chris, great call last night. I don't like al Michaels.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I have a lot of respect for

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Speaker 2: al Michaels. But you're entitled to your opinion.

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm seventy four years old. Hey, Steve, I could

815
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Speaker 8: ask Steve a question. Steve, you behold in the hall

816
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Speaker 8: of pay Steve, I saw your whole career. I'm seventy

817
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Speaker 8: four years old. Wouldn't you think will make the playoffs?

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Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance they still make the playoffs.

819
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Speaker 2: They're probably on the road though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they make the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: But you know it, how come the hockey team the

822
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 8: football team says the same thing. We get up to

823
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Speaker 8: a full start.

824
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Speaker 1: We never say that about the football team. Go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Well, they always has that excuse. We should have played

826
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Speaker 8: better at the first period or second period.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm talking about the football team, but yeah, I

828
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Speaker 1: get you. Yeah, that's I don't know, that's a common

829
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Speaker 1: thing in sports.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they did come out flat against the Falcons.

831
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Speaker 1: They came out fast in this Houston game. They scored first,

832
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Speaker 1: went down and then snapped off that forty five yard

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Speaker 1: touchdown run right out of the gate. That's pretty fast start.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you want to argue that the defense didn't

835
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Speaker 2: get off to a great start, I'll listen to that.

836
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Speaker 1: We talked about that, but yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 4: Joe in Williamsville is next. What's up?

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Speaker 1: Joe?

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Speaker 14: Hey, guys, how are you feeling today? Chris, You're feeling

840
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 14: a little dragon today, a.

841
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Speaker 2: Little bit, man. But it's part of the gig, you know.

842
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Speaker 2: I woke up at eleven, raced in here.

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Speaker 14: Here we are, okay. I want to discuss the play

844
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Speaker 14: that gave Davis toward the end of the game, our

845
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Speaker 14: last drive. Yep, we touched you guys touched on at

846
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Speaker 14: the beginning of the show. Josh, it was first him

847
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 14: ten forty seconds left, ball was on the twenty four

848
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Speaker 14: yard line of Houston and Josh he goes back and

849
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Speaker 14: he throws to Davis who was on his left side

850
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Speaker 14: and gave me its a fantastic catch and unfortunately his

851
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 14: heel is out of bounds. You know, now my criticism

852
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 14: of Josh. I was watching the NFL network this morning

853
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 14: and they were it was a replay of the game,

854
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Speaker 14: and they had the end zone. Came on there and

855
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Speaker 14: I focused in on this last plane. I put it

856
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Speaker 14: it plausa and everything they had he had. H Palmer

857
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 14: was on the left sideline and Shakir was crossing over

858
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 14: the middle and they weren't as deep. You know, they

859
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 14: were probably about ten yards down the field. There was

860
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 14: nobody covering him, and Josh goes for the home run

861
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 14: ball and instead of going for the low hanging fruit,

862
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 14: and they could have got a first down on that

863
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 14: and we would have kept the ball and you know,

864
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 14: who knows what would have happened after that. But my

865
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 14: criticism is, you know, Josh, more often than not, he

866
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Speaker 14: goes for the home run ball instead of taking the

867
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Speaker 14: lowlanian fruit. What are you guys going to say about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought last year he was exceptional in playing

869
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: within the structure of the offense and taking more of

870
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: the checkdown routes or the underneath stuff, and you saw

871
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Speaker 2: how it benefited the offense. I think when he gets

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Speaker 2: in games where things are not going well, I think

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Speaker 2: there are instances where he will drift back to wanting

874
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: to get it all in one play. Now, I don't

875
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: know if that was at work on this particular play

876
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: that you're talking about, because we don't know what the

877
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: progressions are in his reads. If Gabe is his first

878
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: progression and he thinks he can win outside, he's going there.

879
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that the level of effectiveness

880
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 2: of Houston's pass rush is going to have an impact

881
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: on a quarterback's internal clock the more and more he

882
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: gets hit over the course of a game. And so

883
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: while you see all these guys running around free and open,

884
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: Josh may not have gotten off his first read to

885
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 2: his second or third.

886
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: And it may be coached as well on certain plays.

887
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about as a rule, but I'm

888
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: talking about on a specific play in a specific spot.

889
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: And even though and it might have even been talked

890
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: about in his ear when they sent the play in.

891
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: If you've got Gabe on a one on one over there,

892
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 1: take that shot. Because with forty seconds left. It was

893
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: a first down play. They knew they had three downs

894
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: to get. It was four down territory. They knew they

895
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: want to take a shot right there, particularly after they

896
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: just converted a fourth and twenty seven the play before.

897
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: They wanted to strike right away. So it was kind

898
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: of an emotional matchup. Let's go take it, if it's there,

899
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: try it kind of thing. So, yes, you're right. There

900
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: might have been other guys running open. I would suspect

901
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: on a play like that, Joe Brady, and rightfully, so

902
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: it's a it's a thing in the NFL. Hit him

903
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: right here if they get if Gabe's on a one

904
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: on one on the outside, take him. That might have

905
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 1: been something they've been watching during the game and the

906
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: lead up to that or whatever. So yeah, you can.

907
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: And certainly there have been many times this season when

908
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,240
Speaker 1: the game hasn't gone the Bill's way, and four times

909
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: in fact, where multiple occasions Josh passed up an easy throw.

910
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 1: He kind of made light of it against Tampa Bay

911
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: when he hit the Shavers touchdown down his left side

912
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: in the back of the end zone towards the tunnel

913
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,760
Speaker 1: and home. He said, yeah, I passed up the first route,

914
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: which was open. I should have taken that. Then I

915
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: got the number two and it was open. I should

916
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: have taken that. And then it came back in and

917
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: through the hail Mary to Shavers for the touchdown. He

918
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: does that, so you can criticize them all you want

919
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 1: for it. But in this instance, while you may be right,

920
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: there might have been guys running around, I suspect they

921
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: were in his ear saying, hey, we just hit him

922
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: for a fourth and twenty seven, let's knock him out.

923
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: It's like coming on the field after your defense gets

924
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: a big turnover, let's go for the end zone.

925
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: And Josh is super competitive and he subscribes to that approach.

926
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 2: And I would rather have a quarterback that is super

927
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: aggressive than one who's the other way, because we live

928
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 2: through it, Steve. We live through guys throwing it out

929
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: of bounds on fourth down. We live through guys taking

930
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: a checkdown on fourth and twelve, Like I'm taking this

931
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 2: guy every day of the week. And if you want

932
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: to call that a flaw, you're entitled to your opinion.

933
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 4: But the good so far.

934
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: Out weighs the not so good right that I'll live

935
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: and die with it and deal with it every single day.

936
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 4: We are up against the clock. We have to take

937
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: a break.

938
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 2: But if you you're holding at Ato three oh five

939
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: point fifty, we will get to you in the next

940
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: segment because we are wide open for your phone calls.

941
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: It's our longest segment of the show. So stay where

942
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: you are. If you're holding at Aito three oh five fifty,

943
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: we want your thoughts on yesterday's game.

944
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: We'll get to you when we return.

945
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 2: Here on a Buffalo Football Friday.

946
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

947
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 4: Second Hour.

948
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: Here on a Buffalo Football Friday, Chris Brown Steve Tasker

949
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 2: with you after the Bill's twenty three nineteen loss at

950
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 2: the hands of the Texans. All the seven and four

951
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: on the season, the division title is firmly in peril,

952
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 2: as according to the New York's Times playoff Machine, the

953
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 2: Bills have a nine percent chance.

954
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 4: To win the division. Now, what is it?

955
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: Two games back in the lost column? And h what

956
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: is it a game? No, it's two games back in

957
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: the win column too, So two full games behind the Patriots,

958
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: who play the Bengals this week, who may or may

959
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: not have Joe Burrow in the lineup, but will not

960
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: have Trey Hendrickson in the lineup. He has been declared

961
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 2: out for that game. Let's get back to the phones

962
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: at eight o three to zero five fifty one eight

963
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty and to Mike in Syracuse,

964
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:41,479
Speaker 2: what's up.

965
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 15: Mike, Hi, Chris, I see you, Thanks so much for

966
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 15: taking my call here. I just have a few takeaways

967
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 15: from the games, some positives surprisingly and some negatives positive wise.

968
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 15: I want to say that even though the defense looked

969
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 15: really bad, I feel like we have to give Babbage

970
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 15: and those guys some c because there's been multiple games

971
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 15: now where the first half we don't look good, we

972
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 15: don't tackle well, we don't play well. Yet they come

973
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 15: out in the second half. They must make some adjustments,

974
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 15: figure some stuff out, because then they get it together

975
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 15: and they hold the team down in the second half.

976
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 15: And the defense once again held them down the second half,

977
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 15: and somehow, you know, we played terrible. They gave us

978
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 15: a chance to still win the game, which we almost did.

979
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 15: We're one heel touched away from gave Davis getting us

980
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 15: back in that game and getting the touchdowns. Then, as

981
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 15: you said, a couple of questions about your guys get

982
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 15: your guys' opinions, I was all four going for it

983
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 15: on the fourth down where we turned it over. It's

984
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 15: a gutsy call, but I think we needed it. Field

985
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 15: goal would have been great and everyone could have would

986
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 15: have shoot everything that we could have won the game

987
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 15: if we would have just kicked a field goal there.

988
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 15: But it is what it is. It's done over with,

989
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 15: So my only thing was how they executed it, giving

990
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 15: it to Cook for a fourth time in a row.

991
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 15: You could clearly see that Josh is frustrated on the

992
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 15: sidelines after that, asking like what do we do? And

993
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 15: I asked myself the same question, what could have been

994
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 15: a better play call there? In your guys' opinion, because

995
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 15: Cook was obviously kind of gassed. He just you know,

996
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 15: got handled the ball a bunch of times. And the

997
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 15: other opinion I have is just I think we really

998
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 15: need to quit the screen past pick Shakir. I've never

999
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 15: seen that play go anywhere. Every time Josh rolls that

1000
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 15: ball out to his left, Shakir gets swallowed up in

1001
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 15: about two seconds. And my question, and that would be,

1002
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 15: it seems as though when you run that play and

1003
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 15: we throw to Ty Johnson that it seems to get

1004
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 15: more success.

1005
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 8: Out of it.

1006
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 15: He has gotten some big plays off of that play.

1007
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 15: Very similar screen pass for the left. What's the difference

1008
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 15: is the why teams are all over Shakir and sometimes

1009
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 15: Johnson can get away with it. I'll hang up and

1010
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 15: listen and go bills and thinks again.

1011
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, as for your last point, Ty Johnson's

1012
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: a tackle breaker, Khalil Shakira is not. That's one of

1013
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 2: the biggest reasons. Yeah, Colele's bigger, stronger player.

1014
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Khalil can make people miss, but he's got to

1015
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: have space to do it. Ty Johnson breaks him.

1016
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 2: What about but that fourth down series at the start

1017
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter first and ten, Houston thirty two,

1018
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: Cook left guard three yards, second and seven, Cook left

1019
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: guard five yards, third and two, Cook left tackle for

1020
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: one yard fourth and one, Cook right guard for minus two.

1021
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been talking about this. We talk about it

1022
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: every year. You can talk about it every time a

1023
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: play like this happens. It's always the wrong call when

1024
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, and then you should have called a

1025
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: different play. I get it. Yeah, given it to him

1026
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: four times in a row. I see that too. I

1027
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: don't like first of all, Cybo just whiffed on the play.

1028
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: He had no shot. He completely whiffed on the defensive

1029
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: tackle who got right in the backfield, right in James

1030
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: Cook's face. If you're gonna whiff on a block right

1031
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: at the point of attack on a dive play, you lose.

1032
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: So you can call what you want about the play.

1033
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: Call when your guard doesn't get a piece at the

1034
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: guy right on his nose, that's what happens. The execution

1035
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:15,720
Speaker 1: was the execution was substandard. Giving it to Cook again, Well, yeah, okay,

1036
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: it's four straight plays, but for a total of fifteen yards.

1037
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: He probably had another three yards in him before he

1038
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: collapsed of exhaustion. I'll just say it that way. I

1039
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: don't have a problem giving it to him again, Josh.

1040
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: I understand as well why they kept the ball out

1041
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: of Josh's hands. The guy was getting his head caved in.

1042
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 11: He was.

1043
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: He ran more yards last night after the snap than

1044
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: the receivers and tight ends did after the snap. That

1045
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: guy was all over the joint. You didn't need to

1046
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: expose Josh to anything last night, let alone trying to

1047
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: pick up another fourth and short. He got the first

1048
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: one of the game when he jumped over the top

1049
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: or it was time for him not to have to

1050
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: take another shot. So I get that you want to

1051
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: throw it again and get sacked nine times. Okay, you

1052
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: can roll that dice if you want all that stuff.

1053
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 1: That still exposes Josh to another hit. So I see

1054
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: the disappointment in a simple dive play from under center

1055
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: that got blown up. But when you look at the

1056
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: guys up front, it was just one more instance of

1057
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: the Bill's offensive line not playing like the Buffalo Bill's

1058
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: A two twenty twenty five. They were playing like somebody else.

1059
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: They got absolutely worked on that play, and you can't

1060
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: do that on a short yardage play. Yep, it looks

1061
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: like that.

1062
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 4: So Bob in South Carolina next, what's up? Bob?

1063
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call. I think we'd

1064
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 10: all agree that Josh is the most important asset we

1065
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 10: have on this team?

1066
00:56:59,280 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 8: Is that?

1067
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 10: Can we agree on that?

1068
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: Yep? Sure?

1069
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 14: Okay?

1070
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 10: So why then would during that play, during that crazy

1071
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 10: eight sacks.

1072
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 11: And twelve hits that he took and almost a.

1073
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 10: Serious injury, it looked like, why would we not adjust

1074
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 10: on offense? And only during that game did we chip

1075
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 10: those defensive ends two times? Why would we do that,

1076
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 10: Why would we move a tight end to the right

1077
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 10: off the line of scrimmage, bringing Anderson on the left

1078
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 10: and let him help the tackle so Josh wasn't getting

1079
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 10: murdered and he'd have a better chance to throw. I

1080
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 10: know he'd have less receivers, but at least he'd be

1081
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 10: standing up.

1082
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1083
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 10: I still get that lack of adjustment on the offense

1084
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 10: to slow and Hunter, whom they had joked during the

1085
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 10: week about chips that he eats chips, yeah for breakfast,

1086
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 10: and Anderson is a beast. Why wouldn't we help those

1087
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 10: tackles out. There's no tackle on offense that I know

1088
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 10: of in the NFL time after time blocking to one

1089
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 10: of those guys at a fast rush.

1090
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: They're too good, right, Bob, It's an excellent question. I

1091
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: don't have a good answer for you, because we were

1092
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: asking the same question. Even if you resolutely believed that

1093
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 2: your front five could block there four capably on their own,

1094
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: it became very evident in the first half of that

1095
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: football game that that was not the case and you

1096
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: needed to adjust.

1097
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 11: Now.

1098
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: Steve made the point earlier that when you do that,

1099
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: you're taking more skill position players out of the pass routes,

1100
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 2: and if they're rushing four and dropping seven and you've

1101
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 2: got three versus their seven, good luck.

1102
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: You go double team with a free safety.

1103
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: Now, now there are other things you can do to

1104
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: combat that, and maybe it's swing passes out of the backfield,

1105
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: you know, chip and then release and then you have

1106
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: somebody to throw two on a high percentage play. It's

1107
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 2: hard to live that way consistently. But I agree with you, Bob.

1108
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: I could count on one hand how many times they

1109
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: gave chip help to the offensive tackles in protection, and

1110
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: I believe there was one play that was a max

1111
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: protect play and it didn't work either. So I think

1112
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Bob. They probably should have adjusted

1113
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 2: and protected Josh more effectively.

1114
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 4: They didn't do that.

1115
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: They also did not use him on the bootleg game.

1116
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 2: After they thwarted that. Early in the game, they ran

1117
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: a couple of bootlegs and the Texans were ready for

1118
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: that too. There were a couple of times he ran

1119
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: right into the teeth of the rush and got flattened,

1120
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: so I think that dissuaded Joe Brady from calling bootlegs

1121
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: after that. So his menu kept getting whittled down by

1122
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: the performance of that defense, which had a banner day.

1123
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: I watched that defense the week before at Tennessee. They

1124
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 2: are a great defense. They're not nearly as good on

1125
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 2: the road as they are in their own building with

1126
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: the crowd behind them. They they are a defense that

1127
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: is better by a multiple of four, like they're four

1128
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: times is better at home than they are on the road.

1129
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: And they are really good defense on the road. They're

1130
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: almost unstoppable at home.

1131
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why I would agree with all that

1132
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: that Browning was talking about, because I think there's got it.

1133
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: There is a reason for it. Probably and certainly they

1134
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: see these guys on film. Other teams had to chip them.

1135
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: And when you try that stuff in a game and

1136
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: it keeps and it's not working, it goes even worse.

1137
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: They're reluctant to go back to it. Right. Yeah, it

1138
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: was not It was not a good scene when the

1139
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: building and I'll say this too, We've talked. Josh had

1140
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: to get rid of the ball quick and they kept

1141
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: getting put in third and mediums and third and longs,

1142
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: and they weren't horrific on third down. Yesterday they were

1143
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: five of sixteen. Well, it's not good. Yeah, five or sixteen,

1144
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: plus they were three of five on fourth down, so

1145
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: they were eight of eight of eighteen. So yeah, it

1146
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: was it was a rough night. Yeah. And those third

1147
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: and longs, you know you can't drop. They were not

1148
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: able to drop back five steps on a quarterback drop

1149
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: and get rid of the football.

1150
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 4: I said it on the show yesterday.

1151
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: I got to get rid of the ball.

1152
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 4: Had to stay on schedule.

1153
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 2: You can't be in anything like second and ten or

1154
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 2: third and six or more against that defense. If you are,

1155
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: you're dead and your quarterback's gonna get killed.

1156
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 4: Now.

1157
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 2: Josh, to his credit, put some of those sacks on himself.

1158
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: There were instances where he had chances to get rid

1159
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: of the ball and chose not to. But I would

1160
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: say that's probably the smallest percentage of this bas that

1161
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: he took and down in distance worked against him.

1162
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: That's part of what Josh does too. We've bills fans

1163
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 1: know that you watch this team, Josh takes a sack

1164
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: once in a while because he won't because.

1165
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 4: He eats the ball, doesn't want to give up on a.

1166
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to give up on a play, and

1167
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: he just hangs on to the ball too much instead

1168
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: of taking the easy out earlier in the down, get

1169
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: rid of it, throw it, throw it out of bounds.

1170
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: He just doesn't do that. So you got to live

1171
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: with some of that. We all get that, but uh,

1172
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: there is more to this than that, and we can

1173
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: all see that.

1174
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Carol in Tonawanda next.

1175
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 4: What's up Carol?

1176
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 16: Hi, guys. Thanks. You know, the Texans defense was something

1177
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 16: else last night. But you know, maybe if the Bill's

1178
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 16: played with urgency they did the last two minutes of

1179
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 16: the game, maybe we would have had a different outcome

1180
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 16: because it really looked like they were nicely moving that

1181
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 16: ball down the field. I don't know what it is

1182
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 16: or why they can't get that going from the beginning,

1183
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 16: but it would be nice to see. The other thing

1184
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 16: I just want to comment about it, like the offensive

1185
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 16: line was letting go of their holes and not holding

1186
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 16: it long enough for the whole play, assuming Alan had

1187
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 16: already thrown the ball, but he didn't, so I don't

1188
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 16: know what was happening there. Granted there were probably two

1189
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 16: defensemen coming at them, but it seemed that that was occurring.

1190
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 16: And the one thing I want to say is that's

1191
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 16: why we need to go in with an attitude to

1192
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 16: win every game, because I remember an interview with Dion

1193
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 16: Dawkins after a Falcons game when they lost, saying we

1194
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 16: don't have to win every.

1195
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 13: Game, and I just cringed.

1196
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 16: I was like, yeah, you do, because you never know

1197
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 16: what your winning lost column is going to be at

1198
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 16: the end of the season and then we're fighting for

1199
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 16: playoffs spots or wild car card spots. And you know,

1200
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 16: that's what I had to say about that. And I

1201
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 16: think something that I really didn't want to see last

1202
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 16: night was Keon Coleman being Josh Allen's ball boy yesterday.

1203
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 16: You know, if he didn't have the time to be

1204
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 16: at the meetings and providing input, then I don't think

1205
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 16: he really had any In addition to add to Allen

1206
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 16: yesterday at the game, but thank you, I want to

1207
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 16: hear what you have to say.

1208
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, First, first, I want to provide the proper context

1209
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 2: to what Dion Dawkins said after that game. And the

1210
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: only reason I'm going to do this is because I

1211
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: was there. I know exactly what he said. He didn't

1212
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: say we don't have to win every game. He said

1213
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: the fact is, in this league, we're not going to

1214
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 2: win every single game.

1215
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 4: We play.

1216
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: There's a huge difference there in the tone of that

1217
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 2: common and what it means. I think he's just trying

1218
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: to point out that the competitiveness of this league makes

1219
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 2: it very difficult, despite your best efforts as a team

1220
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 2: to win every football game. Dion Dawkins wants to win

1221
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: every game. I just want to assure you of that.

1222
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: As for Keon Coleman, I thought Steve made an excellent

1223
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 2: point on our show yesterday when the reports surfaced, and

1224
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 2: then it eventually became true that he was inactive again

1225
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 2: last night as a healthy scratch. I think a lot

1226
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 2: of people were under the impression that Keon still not

1227
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 2: doing the right things and that's why he's sitting down.

1228
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: It was no longer that that had been addressed the

1229
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 2: previous week and was over. The reason that Keon Coleman

1230
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 2: was sitting down was because of the way the players

1231
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: who replaced him in the lineup last week performed. Tyrrel

1232
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: Shavers had a career day four catches, ninety yards and

1233
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Gabe Davis had a huge fourth down conversion

1234
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 2: against the Bucks, made two other big plays in the

1235
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: passing game, and blocked exceptionally well in the run game,

1236
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 2: they earned more time on the field again Thursday night.

1237
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: It was more about what those players did and less

1238
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: about what Keon Coleman failed to do. Keon Coleman didn't

1239
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 2: do anything wrong this past week leading up to the

1240
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 2: Thursday night game. It was more about what those guys

1241
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: had done on the field the previous week. They earned

1242
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: the time on the field. Coleman still down.

1243
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 4: That's what it was.

1244
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: So don't don't think that Coleman didn't deserve to play.

1245
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: There were just other guys that have done more of

1246
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: late and we're gonna get more opportunities because of it.

1247
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: To ask for speaking to Josh on the sideline height

1248
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: they're friends, that's I mean, it's that simple. It's not like, yeah,

1249
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: it's nothing other than that. Uh, if Keon will try

1250
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: to help, you got to try to help if you're

1251
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: down there and listen. They could have left Keon behind

1252
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: at home, but they felt it was important for him

1253
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: to be there and be a part of the things

1254
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: and be part of the conversation. So don't read too

1255
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: much into that. And also we do that people do

1256
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: this all the time because we watched Josh so closely.

1257
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,439
Speaker 1: Everybody psychoanalyzes Josh when he comes off and looks, has

1258
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: some look on his face, puts his hat on a

1259
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: certain way, puts his helmet down a certain way, picks

1260
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: the surface up a certain way, talks to this guy

1261
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: but not that guy a certain way. You know, Spare me,

1262
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: you don't know, you have any idea what those guys

1263
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: are talking about or thinking about. Just don't don't put

1264
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: yourself through the fact that you think Josh is tormented

1265
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: down there and going through something that you don't that

1266
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: you can just plainly see, because you can't. Just spare

1267
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: all of us the psychoanalytics about Josh and his body

1268
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: language and this and that and the other. You don't know.

1269
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: You just don't know. It's a total guess by you,

1270
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 1: and you're and more often than not, you're projecting your

1271
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: feelings on Josh and making it fit. So just you know,

1272
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: just relax. Josh is doing fine. I had a guy

1273
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: I had. I was listening to the radio show last

1274
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: week or two weeks ago, and one of the national

1275
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: guys was talking about, you know, Josh Allen's just gonna

1276
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: get tired of this and he's gonna want out of Buffalo.

1277
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: I was like, shut up, Uh, I was like, I

1278
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: that could that's really that couldn't be more stupid to

1279
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: have somebody say that on a on a radio show

1280
01:07:52,520 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: as a national analyst. It's completely idiotic. So just you know,

1281
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, the psychoanalytics and all the stuff

1282
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: they say, well, Josh was really mad on the sidelines.

1283
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: Da da da da. You have no idea what he's

1284
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: mad at. Even if he is mad, you have no idea.

1285
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 1: You think you know, I think it's you think it's

1286
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: painfully obvious, is what he's mad about, because that's what

1287
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: you're mad about. You have no idea. He could have

1288
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: been mad at the he could have been mad at

1289
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: the girl with the water bottle. I tell you, it happens.

1290
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: Just leave it. Stop trying to psychoanalyze these guys on

1291
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: the sidelines. It you know, stuff happens on the sidelines

1292
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: that you don't want to know about. You don't have

1293
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,320
Speaker 1: enough information and you don't know the guys enough. So

1294
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 1: just don't put yourself through this scenario where you think

1295
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: you know how Josh feels in that moment on the sideline.

1296
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 4: Let's go to Donnie in Tanawanda next. What's up Donnie?

1297
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, can you hear me?

1298
01:08:59,000 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 4: Yep?

1299
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 17: All right, awesome. I just want to know, you know,

1300
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 17: we had a chance to win it at the end

1301
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 17: of the game, and we did that hooking ladder and

1302
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Speaker 17: the gout down to crucial seconds in the game, and

1303
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 17: there were still forty seconds on the game, and and

1304
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 17: Ty Johnson broke off that nine yard run on third

1305
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 17: down or whatever, second down whatever, it was third and one.

1306
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 17: Why did we pass it?

1307
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: I just want to know on second down, on second down.

1308
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 17: Or second was it second?

1309
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Speaker 4: He was talking about third and one and fourth and

1310
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Speaker 4: one at the end of the game.

1311
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Speaker 1: You're talking it was third and it was third and

1312
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: one on after second down?

1313
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And after Ty Johnson broke off that

1314
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Speaker 17: nine yard.

1315
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Speaker 4: Run on second and ten, and then.

1316
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 17: We threw that third and one, and I'm pretty sure

1317
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,040
Speaker 17: that's when Josh threw the interception.

1318
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 4: He threw it on fourth down. Yeah, right, got it down.

1319
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: He understood. Why didn't we run it on third and one.

1320
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Speaker 2: And two times you had you still had two timeouts?

1321
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: Oh no, he had one time out left. One time

1322
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: out left, so you could run it once at least.

1323
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. Yeah, we had two timeouts.

1324
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 2: Left, so Now they called the second time out after

1325
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson's run, so when it got to third and one,

1326
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Speaker 2: they had one time out left.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking right at the place.

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Speaker 1: Sheet, all right, So there you go. That might have

1329
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,640
Speaker 1: been the reason they threw it because they wanted to

1330
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: stop the clock after that play. They wanted the clock

1331
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: to stop. Now. They didn't throw it because they wanted

1332
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: to not complete it, but they also wanted to if

1333
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 1: they completed it or incompleted it, they wanted the clock

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Speaker 1: to stop.

1335
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Speaker 2: It's wide open too, but Will Anderson makes a fantastic

1336
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: play and bats the pass out of the air. Khalil

1337
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 2: Shakira is open in the right flat leaking out of

1338
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Speaker 2: the backfield.

1339
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Speaker 1: Dan Orlovsky broke that play down. This play down into

1340
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:51,639
Speaker 1: a large measure the safety, young safety Jalen Reid. Jalen Reid,

1341
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:56,120
Speaker 1: who's fresh out at Penn State, pointed the fact that

1342
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 1: Shakir was in the backfield.

1343
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 4: Because he lined up in the right slot then retreated

1344
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 4: to the backfield to the left.

1345
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: The left of Allen and he knows and Orlovsky said this.

1346
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: They the Bills take him from the left side of

1347
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,240
Speaker 1: the backfield. After the ball snap, he goes forward and

1348
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: then to the right and sifts through the offensive line

1349
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: out into the flat, which was wide open. But the

1350
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: Texans saw it coming. The safety had alerted the defensive end,

1351
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: which was that Will Anderson. Anderson heard it, got the call,

1352
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,880
Speaker 1: saw Shakir go behind him and was ready to bat

1353
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: the pass down, and that he did not.

1354
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 4: All out pass rush Josh Allen on the play.

1355
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: He purposely kept a kge rush and just stayed in position,

1356
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: put himself in position to get in the passing lane

1357
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 2: instead of rushing the pass.

1358
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: A guy a team. He got eight sacks that I

1359
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 1: passed up a sack.

1360
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Speaker 2: That's very disciplined defense. So it's a good offensive play call,

1361
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 2: it's a better defensive play in reaction to the pre

1362
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 2: snap reeve.

1363
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Speaker 1: And that's how players elevate themselves. They so the.

1364
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 4: Play was to be made.

1365
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 2: There was just superior execution yea by the Texans defense.

1366
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna squeeze Mike and Montana in here. Who's been

1367
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 2: waiting a while. What do you got for his mic.

1368
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 18: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I pretty much

1369
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 18: agree with a lot of what's been said. You know,

1370
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 18: the idea of this the fourth down, you know, handing

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01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 18: the ball off to Cook, you know, four or five

1372
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 18: yards deep in the backfield, when these guys are crashing

1373
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 18: through the line like they are. It just didn't make

1374
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 18: sense to me. And I know Steve that you can't

1375
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,719
Speaker 18: read what people are thinking, but you know I could

1376
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 18: read Josh's lips and he said, what are we doing?

1377
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 18: And my guess is he didn't like that play?

1378
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: Who do you think he's talking about? Who's the Wii?

1379
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: In that sentence? Who's the Wei? Who's he talking about?

1380
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: Who is? Who is we? When Josh says what are

1381
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,799
Speaker 1: we doing? Is he talking about him and the players?

1382
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: Or is he talking about the coach? Or is he

1383
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,440
Speaker 1: talking about their process? Or is he talking about their attitude?

1384
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: What's he talking about?

1385
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 18: Talking specifically about that play?

1386
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: You think? How do you think? Why do you think that?

1387
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 8: Why?

1388
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 18: Because I think there's a lot of reasons to you know,

1389
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 18: there's other teams.

1390
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 11: I get it.

1391
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 18: I wouldn't sacrifice Josh going in there, uh trying to

1392
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 18: tea But.

1393
01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: Mike, Mike, all I'm saying is this. Mike, all I'm

1394
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: saying is this. You're you think that's what Josh thinking?

1395
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: Because that's what you're thinking about that's the thing you

1396
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: think Josh is thinking about, because that's what we're all

1397
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: thinking about. Josh might be thinking about the fact that listen,

1398
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: here's what I Josh might be thinking about, not the

1399
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: play call, but why it took him so long to

1400
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 1: call it. Josh might be thinking about that, or he

1401
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: might he might have loved the play, or he might

1402
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 1: have thought why didn't why didn't they call it faster?

1403
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: Or there's a million whys, and there's a million wei

1404
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: in it as well, so we can guess all we want.

1405
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: My point is that that's my point. Don't don't put

1406
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: yourself through it. Yeah, Josh was unhappy. You need Josh

1407
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: to be unhappy in that moment.

1408
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, So.

1409
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: Don't fight it.

1410
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 18: Yeah, I agree, Okay, I'll drop it. But listen, I

1411
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 18: think it's a virtue that Josh Allen is self reflective

1412
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 18: as he is. Okay, but I'll tell you sometimes I

1413
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 18: think he's overly taking blame when he ought to be

1414
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 18: looking at other people to take accountability. And you know,

1415
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 18: and and one last thing I'll make is I don't

1416
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 18: understand why you know we had this Coach McDermott said,

1417
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 18: oh yeah, you know, the offensive coordinator. He's solid. When

1418
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 18: the day Ball thing came up, you don't have to

1419
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 18: replace him. But why can't day Ball be if he's

1420
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 18: willing to consult with him and put their heads together

1421
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 18: and maybe develop some more creativity, Because you know, to

1422
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 18: deny that out of hand without thinking that, I think

1423
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 18: is a bit errogant.

1424
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: Frankly, what do you all right? There's nine things here

1425
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: that are wrong. I don't know if we have time

1426
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: to do it. But here's the thing. Uh Yeah, it's

1427
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 1: it's Josh's job to be accountable and to hold himself

1428
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: over overlead a blame. That's what leaders do. And you

1429
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 1: and let me say this, it was my experience on

1430
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 1: a team that was really good. You get held accountable.

1431
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: The next day. In films, Josh is at a mess

1432
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: press conference. He's talking to strangers in the crowd. People

1433
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: are coming up to him. Nobody knows who these people are,

1434
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: and they're asking him questions that they're not family. He'll

1435
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 1: put it on him when you get he'll take all

1436
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: the blame. Yes, that's what a dad does, a big

1437
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: brother does, That's what a leader does. Yeah, I should

1438
01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 1: have been better. I got to do this in private.

1439
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: We don't know what happens, and you can bet that

1440
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 1: there's some hard conversations going on in private about the

1441
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: guys who are really responsible for having that play blow up.

1442
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: That's the way it works, and that's why Josh gets paid.

1443
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: That's what the money is for, right, So all of that,

1444
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 1: they're all held accountable. And as for Brian day Ball

1445
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: and having guys come in, let me let me tell

1446
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: you it's been my experience with with head coaches and

1447
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: guys who have been head coaches who came up through

1448
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: the ranks like they all do. It's an apprenticeship. You're

1449
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: a quality control, you're an assistant assistant. Then you're a

1450
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 1: full assistant coach. Then you're a position coach. Then you're

1451
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 1: a passing game coordinator, running game coordinator, a defensive back coordinator,

1452
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 1: or a linebacker coordinator, you know, run pass rush, pass

1453
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 1: rush coordinator. Then you're up a full coordinator. You're coordinator

1454
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: in offense or defense. Now you're a head coach. So

1455
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: they all work their way up and when you get there,

1456
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: like Brian dabol did, or Sean McDermott did, or anybody

1457
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: else you can name did, Rex Ryan, Mike Shanahan Kyle

1458
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: Shanahan Sean, you get up there and you you do

1459
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 1: this and you're making it work. You're doing you're working

1460
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: the staff, you're a head coach. You're making fifty million

1461
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: bucks on the contract, which is all guaranteed. It doesn't

1462
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 1: go well. You poured your heart and soul into that team,

1463
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 1: they fire you. Monday morning comes around. You're at home

1464
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there, your phone rings, and it's a

1465
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,719
Speaker 1: guy you used to work for saying, hey, would you come,

1466
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: would you come pour your heart and soul into this

1467
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: team for free for the same money you're getting because

1468
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 1: you're not getting any more money because it's all offset.

1469
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: If the bills pay day ball, it's the Giants paying

1470
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: day ball. He doesn't get as much money from the Giants.

1471
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: It's just all traded off. But come in and put

1472
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: eighteen hour days in for us for our team. Yeah,

1473
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 1: those guys are like, no, I'm putting my feet up

1474
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: for a hot man.

1475
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 2: Not to mention the fact that it changes the dynamics

1476
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,759
Speaker 2: in the office where the coordinator who is working saying,

1477
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 2: apparently I'm not good enough for you. They need somebody

1478
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 2: else to help me. There's some of that replace me

1479
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 2: with that guy eventually. So now that guy is looking

1480
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 2: over spending more time looking over his shoulder than he

1481
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 2: is coming up with the right ideas for what he's

1482
01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 2: fixing for the offense.

1483
01:17:59,479 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: That's right.

1484
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 2: It's office dynamics and it's all of the stuff that's set.

1485
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: You will be hard pressed to get a guy like

1486
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: Brian Dabole to say, yeah, sure, all come back to

1487
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: Buffalo for nothing.

1488
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: Break time for us more of your phone calls when

1489
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Speaker 2: we get back on a Buffalo Football Friday. Here on

1490
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Raiding.

1491
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 2: Nick is gonna go to Davis out to the ten, fifteen,

1492
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 2: coming up the middle, twenty five, bounces off a tackle,

1493
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 2: spins and.

1494
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 3: He's out to the forty, cuts it back fifty. He's

1495
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 3: gonna go the distance. Happy birthday, Ray Davis all the

1496
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,600
Speaker 3: way for a flip into the end zone for a touchdown.

1497
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Speaker 2: Your Big Energy Play of the Week is presented by

1498
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Speaker 2: a National Grid. National Grid brings reliable energy to Bill's Mafia,

1499
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 2: and beyond forty four games had gone by since the

1500
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 2: asked kick return for a touchdown. It went for one

1501
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 2: hundred and one yards back in January of twenty twenty three.

1502
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 2: It was the Naheem Hines two kick return touchdown game

1503
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 2: against the Patriots. It was the last time the Bills

1504
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 2: took back a kick return for a score. Still wasn't

1505
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: enough though, in a twenty three nineteen loss to the Texans.

1506
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:24,679
Speaker 2: Got to get back to the phones to get your thoughts,

1507
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: and we go to Tom in Wheatfield next.

1508
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 4: What's up Tom?

1509
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 11: Hey? How you doing?

1510
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 2: Guy?

1511
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 4: Good?

1512
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 11: Hey, Steve, real quick, he just congrats on the last

1513
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 11: nine players. Hope for you to get to three and

1514
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 11: from when I understand either all three or two or

1515
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 11: one can get in.

1516
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 4: Or none good luck?

1517
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, it's thumbs up or thumbs down. We

1518
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 2: want to get to the thumbs up thumbs down chance.

1519
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: At least not me anyway. So we've seen that before.

1520
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 11: Reason a couple of points real quick, as far as

1521
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 11: I thought, the game changer at the very end, besides

1522
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 11: the gameplay and whatnot, was fourth and one when Dian

1523
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 11: Dian jumped in uh for legal procedure and that made

1524
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 11: it fourth and six. That was huge. Fourth to one

1525
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 11: to help a lot different than fourth and six obviously,

1526
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 11: and Dan's been jumping a lot all year I like

1527
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 11: to know the numbers out of eleven games. He does

1528
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 11: every game and I love Dan. He's going to retire

1529
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 11: here as an all pro. I'm sorry pro bowler for

1530
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 11: the Bills rest of his career, but he needs to

1531
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 11: clean that up. I think.

1532
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1533
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 11: Another thing is where the heck was Shavers? Not one target?

1534
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 11: That that bothered me, and I just, uh, I don't

1535
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 11: understand it. I mean, the guy was a standout last week.

1536
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:51,559
Speaker 11: I get the pressures and Josh maybe not have enough

1537
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 11: time to get into him, but not even one target.

1538
01:20:54,920 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 11: And the last question, guys, as far as Kean, as

1539
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 11: far as I'm concerned, I couldn't care less if you

1540
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 11: ever set in the field again. But do you think

1541
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 11: he's played next week?

1542
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,680
Speaker 4: Good question, guys, Yeah, that's a good question, Nanks, he

1543
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 4: said Coleman.

1544
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Keon, Yeah, wants to know. You think he'll play

1545
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: next week? Yeah, it's a great question.

1546
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 2: I think there's I think there's a decent chance that

1547
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 2: he does, because after last week's game, they're looking for

1548
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: answers in the passing game.

1549
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1550
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: I think the reason Shavers didn't get a target is

1551
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,120
Speaker 2: because he barely played. He played thirty nine percent of

1552
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 2: the snaps he was on the field or sorry he played, Yeah,

1553
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: thirty nine percent of the snaps, twenty six of the

1554
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 2: sixty six snaps he was barely on the field.

1555
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't use him that much, and I think

1556
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: too probably he had an uptick in his special team stuff,

1557
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: so that he probably had some special team snaps that

1558
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: maybe sapped some of his availability away. They tend to

1559
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: balance that stuff out, but I don't know, I can't.

1560
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: I have to go back and check his special team

1561
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 1: snaps as well.

1562
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 4: But he had twelve special team snaps.

1563
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: So that gives him over thirty, which that's kind.

1564
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 4: Of the special team snaps.

1565
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of that's a chunk. So maybe

1566
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: that had something to do with it. Maybe it didn't,

1567
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: but you're right. That is a change from a guy

1568
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: who had, you know, ninety yards of the year the

1569
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 1: week before and not get a target. It says something

1570
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: about what their game plan was and what they were

1571
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: thinking to Bobby and Buffalo.

1572
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 4: Next, what's up, Bobby?

1573
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 6: Hey, how you doing? Chris?

1574
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 1: Good?

1575
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 6: Good? Listen, Chris. I was looking at the game last

1576
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 6: night and the one one word is one word that

1577
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 6: came to my mind that entire game the word was

1578
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 6: speechless because Number one, the reason why I was speechless

1579
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 6: was because, first of all, listen, if I'm your quarterback,

1580
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 6: the most valuable player of this league, and if and

1581
01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 6: if my offensive line cannot protect me, that's problem number one.

1582
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 6: First of all, listen, I know, I know Steve Tasker

1583
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 6: was talking about. You don't know what Josh is thinking

1584
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 6: or whatever, but listen. This not listen. This does not

1585
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 6: only fall on Josh Allen. This also falls on his

1586
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 6: whole offensive line, because first of all, Number one, listen,

1587
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 6: if I'm your quarterback, I am supposed to get protected

1588
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 6: at all costs, no matter what. That's number one. Number two,

1589
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 6: the way the Houston Texas defense was playing last night,

1590
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 6: Steve Tasker, you might laugh at this one I tell

1591
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 6: you this, but the Houston Texans reminded me of the

1592
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 6: old Buffalo Bills defenses back in the late nineties when

1593
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 6: they had Bruce Smith, Cornelius Bennett, Shane Connellan. They were

1594
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 6: totally ferocious last night, listen, and it seemed like the

1595
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 6: Bills did not have an answer for any one of

1596
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 6: those for none of it. And my and my question

1597
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 6: to you, Chris, listen, we look at the Bills schedule. Okay,

1598
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 6: I understand they got Pittsburgh next, then Cincinnati, then the

1599
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 6: big game against New England. Me personally, I do not

1600
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 6: see the Bills winning the AFC East at all. Okay,

1601
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 6: you guys may have You guys may have a different perspective,

1602
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 6: but that's my perspective of it all. Okay, I will

1603
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 6: hang up and let you answer.

1604
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 14: Guys.

1605
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 4: I appreciate the call.

1606
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, their chances of winning the division took a

1607
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 2: major blow last night with that loss.

1608
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 4: It's an AFC Conference loss.

1609
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 2: You're now two full games behind the Patriots with six

1610
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 2: left to play, and the Patriots have a couple of

1611
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 2: difficult games, one against Buffalo, one against the Ravens after that.

1612
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 2: But they they're gonna be playing the Bills coming off there.

1613
01:24:55,720 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 2: Why they're playing the Bengals this week, presumably with Joe Burrow,

1614
01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 2: But they played in three months.

1615
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 4: What's that gonna look like?

1616
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 2: So they have a firm lead, and outside of Baltimore

1617
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 2: and having to play Buffalo head to head, it's a

1618
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 2: relatively easy stretch run of the schedule.

1619
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: Bobby, Yes, the Houston defense last night was historically good,

1620
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: very good. They were off the charge. There's no doubt,

1621
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 1: it was probably their best game of the season, maybe

1622
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: the best game of this last handful of years, because

1623
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 1: of the offense they were playing, because of the guy

1624
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: they were playing, right, They did it against a great

1625
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 1: team on the road or at home, who was on

1626
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: the road, and they made him look pedestrian at best.

1627
01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: They handled the reigning MVP. Now Josh didn't go down

1628
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: without a fight. They beat him up really bad and

1629
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 1: he still had a shot at it at the end.

1630
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 1: And you can bet their hearts were in their throat

1631
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: when it was fourth and twenty seven. They picked it

1632
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 1: up and came in and just missed a first and

1633
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 1: goal at the two. So yeah, their hearts were in

1634
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:02,520
Speaker 1: their throat too. But yeah, they played outstanding football yesterday.

1635
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: And no, you can't. Nobody can pick the Bills to

1636
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: win this division. Now, everything's got to fall. Would have

1637
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 1: to fall perfectly for them, and in order to do

1638
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: that the way that what we've seen in the England

1639
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: New England Patriots, it would almost have to come down

1640
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: to the something they have to stumble. Something other than

1641
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: their play will have to derail them. Somebody get injured,

1642
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: the wrong injury this, you know, whatever, they have to

1643
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 1: have like four bad breaks go their way cost them

1644
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: a couple of games in games that they would normally win.

1645
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be like that for them, and you

1646
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: don't see that happening. So, yeah, you're right, the Bills

1647
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: probably will not win this division this year. And so yeah,

1648
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: you're you're not breaking any news there, Bobby. I think

1649
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: everybody agrees with you.

1650
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 4: Gotta take a break here.

1651
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 2: One final segment ago, We'll see if we can squeeze

1652
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 2: in a phone call next on a Buffalo Football Friday,

1653
01:26:50,960 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: stay with us. Late motion from Hawes hand off to

1654
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 2: Cook cuts it inside.

1655
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: He's got the.

1656
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: First out through a hole thirty twenty ten five touchdown

1657
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 3: James Cook forty five yards to the end zone.

1658
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 2: This week's Clean Play of the Week is presented by Tide.

1659
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,920
Speaker 2: If it's got to be clean, it's got to be tied.

1660
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: And James Cook, with his third forty plus rushing touchdown

1661
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: of the season, got the Bills off to a good start,

1662
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 2: although they did miss the extra point after that, and

1663
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,799
Speaker 2: it was only a six to nothing lead and did.

1664
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Not prove getting back to haunt them too.

1665
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were down four at the end, couldn't tie

1666
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: it on a field goal and forced overtime, which we

1667
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,960
Speaker 2: haven't really even touched on at this point. Gonna squeeze

1668
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 2: a phone call in here before we are out.

1669
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 4: Let's go to Dave in Orchard Park. What's up, Dave?

1670
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 19: Oh yeah, guys, thanks for taking the call. You know,

1671
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 19: let's just look at the bottom line yesterday. Zero takeaways

1672
01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 19: for the Bills, three for the Texans, zero sacks for

1673
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 19: the Bills, eight for the Texans. Red zone efficiency zero

1674
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,520
Speaker 19: for two for the Bills, two for four for the Texans.

1675
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 19: That's the bottom line of why we lost this game,

1676
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 19: despite the fact that we were in it almost till

1677
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 19: the end. You know, the play of the game to

1678
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 19: me was a minute thirty eight six offensive plays by

1679
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 19: a backup quarterback right before the half, and the Texans

1680
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 19: get that score, and we come out to start the

1681
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 19: third quarter and absolutely did nothing to respond to that.

1682
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,040
Speaker 19: And to me, that was basically a backup quarterback with

1683
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 19: a minute thirty eight before halftime, six offensive passing plays

1684
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 19: and they get that score. Dawkins, to me, every week

1685
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 19: it's a penalty with this guy. He's a big bag

1686
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 19: of wind. I heard him on the pre game, I

1687
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 19: heard him on the post game. He never makes any

1688
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 19: sense when he's talking. And I'd like to know where

1689
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,879
Speaker 19: do we stand with cap money going into next season,

1690
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 19: because Bean has put this team in cap hell. It

1691
01:28:58,280 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 19: seems like every single year.

1692
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna take some hard decisions in

1693
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 2: this offseason. You're gonna have to lop off some of

1694
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 2: the older veterans who cost too much money. They're eight

1695
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 2: and a half projected under the CAF for twenty six.

1696
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 4: They're gonna have to make that.

1697
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 2: A larger a larger pot to work with, so they're

1698
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 2: gonna have to probably release some veteran players. This team

1699
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 2: needs to get younger in athletics.

1700
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, I agree with all that stuff

1701
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: you said about, you know, the plays and the and

1702
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 1: the stats that made this game out of hand. You're

1703
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 1: right that two minute drill from the backup quarterback right

1704
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: before halftime was the difference in the game. It's really

1705
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 1: the difference in the game.

1706
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 2: That's it for us. Everybody, have a good weekend and

1707
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: breathe a little bit. We'll see you back on Monday

1708
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: for a three hour show at noon.