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Speaker 2: I said, no, guest, your presence is presence. And I

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Speaker 1: To surbey me?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. I

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Speaker 3: I have a wonderful guest with me today. A very

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Speaker 3: funny writer, comedian, just general funny person about town. Louis Bertel,

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Speaker 3: co host of Keep It That's True, wonderful podcast that's

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Speaker 3: worth checking out. Writer on Jimmy Kimmel Alive. He does

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Speaker 3: all kinds of things. I'm the new Bridger there. I

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Speaker 3: took my place. You ever seen the movie Rebecca? Like

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Speaker 3: You're like you're you're Rebecca? Like I haven't seen it,

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Speaker 3: but I would love to Bridge.

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Speaker 4: I used to sit there, he was ravishing.

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Speaker 3: I am, wait, so is Rebecca the person who's she's

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Speaker 4: Or does Rebecca take over? Rebecca is the one who

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Speaker 4: she's never in the movie. So she used to live

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Speaker 4: there and we're constantly hearing tales of Rebecca. Oh and

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Speaker 4: I'm like the trembling newcomer, and as you should be

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Speaker 4: sitting there with best coal, right, I know who had

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Speaker 3: She's been gone for a minute. No, Lewis, you're just

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Speaker 3: I mean, I just have to say you're terrific. You're

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Speaker 3: I would say ninety nine point ninety percent of people.

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Speaker 3: You're one person who does this in a very nice,

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Speaker 3: tidy way. It feels to me, feels like you're in

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Speaker 3: just observing things for us. Oh that's so beautiful. No,

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Speaker 3: so people need to check that out. But you're I

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Speaker 3: don't understand how you managed to keep kind of a

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Speaker 4: I mean, the bottom line is pop cultures is constantly

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Speaker 3: Well, and these sort of things don't usually don't require

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Speaker 4: Correct, It's satisfying, Like I feel like I've gotten to

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Speaker 3: Rolls around, totally recurring theme I think that's bubbling up

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Speaker 3: I'm the what was that the East Pond hermit.

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Speaker 4: Do you remember this? Do you remember this?

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Speaker 3: Occasionally I feel like I'm breaking into someone's house and

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Speaker 3: That and your I mean, your memory is obviously a

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Speaker 4: thinking about how no one talks about Rim anymore relevant

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Speaker 3: Recently I had a shocking kind of something that shifted

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Speaker 3: I for my entire life, I've been confusing these two actors.

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Speaker 3: It's very nice, It's like very soothing or something. It

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Speaker 3: like starts off brilliant and then soft, but not in

434
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Speaker 3: a not too soft.

435
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Speaker 4: I don't know. It's a beautiful person's name to Thailand all. Yeah,

436
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 4: mother of Dynete. Yeah, Thailand has lived on this plantation

437
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 4: for fifty years.

438
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Speaker 3: So okay, So the Oscars are behind us, the Grammys

439
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 3: are behind us. We're obviously getting ready for the Teen

440
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Speaker 3: Choice Award.

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Speaker 4: That's my surfboard is in hand.

442
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Speaker 3: Yes, I know. I'm curious because I think you have

443
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Speaker 3: some level of appreciation for award show.

444
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Speaker 2: Is that very?

445
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Speaker 4: Yes?

446
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Speaker 3: I'm curious as to how you rank them because I think,

447
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 3: in my opinion, they're all horrible. Yeah, but in varying degrees.

448
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Speaker 3: And I want you to before I name my what

449
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,239
Speaker 3: I think is the worst. I want to hear what

450
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Speaker 3: you think is out of the ones that are the

451
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Speaker 3: ones yes.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, if we're talking about watchability, are you talking

453
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Speaker 4: about nobility of the award?

454
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Speaker 3: I think about just general credibility, respectability, got it do

455
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Speaker 3: the one that usually gets at the most right, the

456
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Speaker 3: one that usually gets almost everything wrong if okay?

457
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Speaker 4: On that metric ranking those, I think the ones that

458
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Speaker 4: mostly get it right are the Tony's Okay, sure, then

459
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Speaker 4: the Emmys because usually you just have to watch a

460
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Speaker 4: single episode and people will actually do that. Yeah, I think.

461
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Speaker 4: And it's also hard to deny, Like if word of

462
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Speaker 4: mouth builds about a great performance on a TV show,

463
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, you're never it's never

464
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 4: going to be like, was that person good? Let's give

465
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Speaker 4: them an Emmy? Whereas I feel like with Oscar performances,

466
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 4: you can take a wild swing and fully only forty

467
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Speaker 4: percent of people like it, and then you'll still get

468
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Speaker 4: the Oscar because people offended it. Okay, I'm talking about

469
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Speaker 4: like a Kate Blanchett and the Aviator or the nazal

470
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Speaker 4: Wegger in Cold Mountain type, right, Like would that win

471
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Speaker 4: the Emmy? Probably not?

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Speaker 3: You know, with the Oscars, you've got a whole different

473
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Speaker 3: playing right, right, right, Okay, so Tony's yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then I say Oscars is third. And then there's

475
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Speaker 4: this whole scandal about the Grammys and how potentially the

476
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Speaker 4: big categories are rigged based on who can show up

477
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Speaker 4: or who's gonna.

478
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Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, that's not a scandal to me. That's

479
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: just what's been happening the entire I mean, it's the worst,

480
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: the obsolete, worst show. And also everybody has too many

481
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Speaker 3: Grammys is my thing. There's too many categories. You're telling me, like,

482
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Speaker 3: you're excited to win a Grammy for rap sung collaboration.

483
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 3: Do you like listen to the radio and you're like, oh,

484
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: what a great rap sung collaboration every time? Yeah, that's

485
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Speaker 3: why I turn on the radio and I'm looking for these.

486
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, when am I going to get that next

487
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 3: rap song collaboration?

488
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll notice there's no serious channel for rap song collaborations.

489
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Speaker 4: It's just not important.

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Speaker 3: No, I think I think part of I mean, the

491
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Speaker 3: Grammys have so many problems, but music is such a

492
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: huge field that's almost impossible to actually recognize anything good

493
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: going on right within it. It's like and then it's

494
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Speaker 3: also so I think driven by money, whereas like with

495
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: movies with the oscars, that's a fairly fenced in You

496
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 3: can't make that many movies, right, but anybody can record

497
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Speaker 3: a song.

498
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Speaker 4: And also there's there's a clearer rubric as to what

499
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 4: makes a movie successful, Like it's like, what's what are

500
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 4: the intentions of the movie? Like does it is the

501
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 4: story well expressed? Is the acting good? Whereas music is

502
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 4: just good or bad? Right? You know?

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Speaker 3: But the Grammys just have an incredible ability to almost

504
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 3: always reward the very worst. It feels like it's like, yeah,

505
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Speaker 3: the absolute blandest.

506
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Speaker 4: I feel like a good way to play it is

507
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 4: they they pick the thing that will upset the least

508
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 4: amount of people, which is a bad thing in music

509
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 4: for sure. Yeah, but I guess with someone like Billy Eilish,

510
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 4: you just won all these awards, that's at least a

511
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 4: definitive twenty nineteen sound and so you can't really argue

512
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 4: against it, right, you know, And even if you're not

513
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: arguing for it, she.

514
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Speaker 3: Felt like almost a dangerous choice for the Grammys, which

515
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: is insane because it was wildly popular throughout and yeah,

516
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: seven years old or yes, she just turned eleven, Billie Eilish,

517
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Speaker 3: But in I have to root for them because she

518
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 3: and her brother they're like our carpenters, and you love

519
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Speaker 3: I call them the asm Arpenters. That's perfect. I started

520
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: watching the Taylor Swift documentary.

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Speaker 4: I also just started. I've seen half of that. I

522
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 4: will watch the Yeah, I maybe watch half an hour.

523
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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts? Well, my thing about her is

524
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Speaker 4: I'm never rooting against her, Like she's fine. But at

525
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 4: the same time, I do think Breathless by the Cores

526
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 4: is better than anything she's ever done. Sure course, like

527
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 4: there's other b plus yes, pseudo confessional, but mostly vague. Yeah,

528
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: it's me.

529
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Speaker 3: It's a there's something about her that she just never

530
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Speaker 3: I mean, like, these songs are extremely catchy, but they

531
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: never get their hooks in me. And also the whole

532
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: premise of this documentary is Taylor like making the decision

533
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 3: to have her first opinion, you know, it's like, why

534
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: are we alive?

535
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 4: What?

536
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: It's wild to watch, but maybe there'll be a big

537
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: turn or something. I I still haven't seen the Lady

538
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 3: Gaga documentary.

539
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Speaker 4: Honestly, I truly love her, and I think the documentary

540
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 4: is terrible. Oh interesting in what way? Just well, it's

541
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: about the making of that album Joanne, which is just

542
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: one of could not tas Okay, what happened is Lady

543
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: Gaga made an album that would have been fun for

544
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 4: Pink and it was supposed to be otionary for her,

545
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: which is all wrong. And in the documentary there's a

546
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 4: part where like Joanne is is her aunt who died

547
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: before she was born or something, So she plays it

548
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: for the relative whose daughter was Joanne, right, and the

549
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 4: camera's like fixed on her, waiting for the emotional moment,

550
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 4: and you can tell this I think it's her grandma.

551
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 4: It's just like, what is going on, Like, Joe, I

552
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 4: don't care about Joanne A nomore.

553
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard the song Born this Way at the

554
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: gym the other day, and I think that song is horrible.

555
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: I think that whole album is horrible. I liked her

556
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 4: first two albums and then that one. It's sort of

557
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: like compared to Madonna, and I like this album. But

558
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 4: like when she made Ray of Light, you could tell

559
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 4: suddenly she wanted to sound wise as opposed to sound

560
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 4: like herself. Okay, right, and so like an element of

561
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 4: fun left the picture, and element it's like it's like

562
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 4: she stopped believing in how rad she was and started

563
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: believing she needed to be a talk yes, and then

564
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 4: was immediately in over her head. Correct. But then of

565
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: course she got all that attention and all these Grammys

566
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: for Ray of Light, and then we're on this path

567
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: Madonna's on now where every fucking I call this a

568
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: path at this point, this is a wild like I

569
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 4: don't know, stumbling through a dark alleyway, but like, you know, constantly,

570
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 4: like she's unfurling a scroll and reading us her findings

571
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: about whatever the hell. Like it's like Cabala ask all

572
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 4: that stuff. And so that's what I feel about born

573
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 4: this wabe.

574
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that song just stinks, lady. I know

575
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: you're listening, and the song stinks. More people should refer

576
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: to her as lead. I need to get her in

577
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: my life, Lewis. The podcast is obviously called I said

578
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: no gifts right there in the title, I've set down

579
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: one rule you walk in today.

580
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 4: You're holding it.

581
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: What is can only be described as the biggest gift

582
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: yet on this podcast.

583
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: And I can't wait for you to be disappointed at

584
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 4: how unbig it is. But it is a large target

585
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 4: gift back. This is a bag that's at least six

586
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: feet tall, right, I belong in it. I could sleep

587
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 4: in it tonight and be perfectly comfortable. Should I Do

588
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 4: you want? I mean, do you want me to open

589
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 4: the gift? Is that?

590
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: Oh?

591
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I want you to want your commission. Yes,

592
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 4: I'm sorry you won't get the folly art of like

593
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: unwrapping or like scratch.

594
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: Well, I'll make a noise. I'm gonna scrunch the gift

595
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: bag or something.

596
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, this is for you, Bridge. Okay, let me

597
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: take a peak here. Oh yeah, that's a decent noise.

598
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: It looks uh huh. I mean it's enormous. So I'm

599
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: climbing up towards the top of the bag. Yes, we're

600
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 4: just towering over the microphone. There's tissue tissue. Oh my god,

601
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 4: the levels of beautiful it's raining down on this. Oh yeah,

602
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: it's very sunset colored tissue. This is beautiful pinks and

603
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 4: salmon's and let's just put that by the mic Oh right, okay, right,

604
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: this is an unboxing podcast.

605
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: I'm the Nintendo Switch. First thing we see here. Okay, Now,

606
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: I'm I truly have to dive into the bad I

607
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: have to take it off the table to.

608
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Speaker 4: Reach into it.

609
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: Oh, this is I feel like, I mean, we need

610
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: to we need to speak about the last couple of

611
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: weeks have been real Lewis vertel moments for me.

612
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: Uh huh.

613
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 3: First of all, I had you booked on this podcast.

614
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: You canceled for the SAG Awards, very Lewis totally signature movie.

615
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: Yes recently, can I read the text that you sent

616
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 4: to me? Yes? By mistake, I accidentally sent Bridger a

617
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: tax that was meant to go to another friend of mine.

618
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Speaker 3: This text, by the out of the blue, this isn't

619
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Speaker 3: quote speaking of ponies. Do you remember Dale Evans is

620
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: perhaps the most Fanny Flag statement ever committed to record.

621
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Speaker 3: I got that just with no context whatsoever. My girlfriend

622
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: Brooke and I are obsessed with like things like Match Game,

623
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: and she was watching a clip from Match Game and

624
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: she was asking me about Richard Dawson, you know who

625
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: later posted Family Feud. She was like, is Richard really

626
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: mad in this clip? And so I watched this clip.

627
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: We were analyzing whether or not Richard was mad? The

628
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: answer he was, he was, What was he mad about?

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Speaker 4: He answered, he wrote an answer down for the Match Game,

630
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: and he meant to write another word. It just slipped

631
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 4: his mind and he's like, and he kept saying, give

632
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: her the point. She deserves the point, and he was

633
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 4: just living. He was living. Well, I'm on his side here, yeah,

634
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 4: but he wrote it down. I mean, the rules are rules.

635
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: He was nervous. He was on TV, yes, But sitting

636
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 4: next to him was Fanny Flagg, who incredible Nate who

637
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: is she wrote would eventually end up writing the movie

638
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: Fried Green Tomatoes. Oh okay, kind of a lesbian vibe

639
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: in general, right, which is sort of rare for the seventies.

640
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, vision and she has a kind of folksy

641
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: sense of humor. And afterwards she just because it's so

642
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 4: uncomfortable what Richard's doing. She and he says the word

643
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: pony or something. She speaking of ponies. Remember Dale Evans

644
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: like just random in the seventies where you could say

645
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: things like this and they would not be cut out.

646
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 4: They would just be forced down the viewer's throat and

647
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: everyone's happy with right, And they didn't have a Wikipedia

648
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 4: to look up Dale just so I'd be like, I

649
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: don't know who that is, but now it's in my brain. Yeah, right,

650
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: we need to get back to that. So I'm ready

651
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 4: for TV. That's just mystifying. I mean, I feel like

652
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: I've kind of done that with the part of this

653
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: podcast talking about two very old actors that nobody knows,

654
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 4: Schorsen being Henry Gibson. Let's keep them on our minds.

655
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: But back to the gift. Yeah.

656
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 3: So the first thing I've brought out is the guests

657
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 3: Who Clue edition? Yes, which is? I know you love Clue?

658
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 4: I do. I will let me tell you something. I

659
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 4: don't know that I love the game of Clue, right,

660
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 4: but I love the intrigue of the characters of Clue.

661
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 3: Oh of course that each one their own little back store,

662
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: their beautiful names. Yeah right, Yes, the the categories of color.

663
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: It's just it's very organized. It's almost OCD like, right,

664
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: you know. And then so this is I just want

665
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: to clarify, not just Clue. It's a version of the

666
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: game Guess Who, which you know is the game? I

667
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: love the game. I have played it in years, so

668
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: maybe I'm wrong, but I think it's a delight.

669
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. What I miss about gift giving, or like the

670
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: Christmas season from being a kid is not so much

671
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: whatever the tree, et cetera. Yeah, I miss getting games.

672
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: Oh I love to get a game because then like

673
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: you open it up in front of everybody and presumably

674
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: they're all good people, and then you think, oh, let's

675
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 4: play the game together.

676
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: We now have fun. Yes, this is going to be

677
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 3: shared by all of us, correct, and we're going to

678
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: have some level of enjoyment rather than I'm going to

679
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: put this away and then everyone will forget about the gift.

680
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. And there's something about guests who where I think

681
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 4: that was the beginning of me as a writer because

682
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 4: or and also as a gay person, because I immediately

683
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 4: put inner lives to the female the women in the game.

684
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 4: I'm immediately thinking, now this is the clue addition. So

685
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 4: like miss Scarlett's in this and stuff. But in the

686
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 4: original one there were five women right named Susan, Anita, Maria, Claire,

687
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: and Anne. How was there not a Jill? That's what

688
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Jill. When you put those five together, like

689
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: Captain Planet Jill Emergence, Jill, Jill is the guess who queen. Yes,

690
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: it kind of just floats over earth, the vague concept

691
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 4: that controls guests shit, But I just you would just

692
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: sit there and like look at their faces and be

693
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 4: obsessed with whoever the hell they were and Susan's white

694
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 4: hair pearl earrings. Yes, the ear rings, the jewelry of

695
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 4: the eighties that we treated as standard. And by the way,

696
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: I also just wanted to note about Guess Who. Isn't

697
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: it crazy that we have not had a version where

698
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 4: there's like black people in it? Wow?

699
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I wasn't aware, but yeah, that's what's going

700
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 3: on Hasbro Gaming. I guess the nature of the game

701
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: make it you have black people with red hair and stuff.

702
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the problem. Are you certain that's hasn't happened yet,

703
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: because if not, we've I mean I think Guess Who

704
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 3: is cancer?

705
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

706
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: Shall we start a revolution? I think that something's gotta happen. Wow,

707
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: that's an interesting insight and I'd love to Hasbro. I

708
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: know you're listening. Let's just try to figure this out

709
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 3: and get some get some diversity into Guess Who?

710
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 4: Right? And I think the deal is we would need

711
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 4: I think and Guess Who? You have a board with

712
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: twenty four people on it, right, I think it would

713
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: need to just be a huger board, just an enormous Yeah,

714
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 4: like a seventy two person Guess who? Come up for that?

715
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

716
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 4: I think that'd be a lot of fun.

717
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: I mean, this looks like it may be an entirely

718
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: white cast again with guess who. Yes, well doctor Orchid

719
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: looks oh wait, so potentially So this is the other update.

720
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 3: So Clue, of course we're obsessed with. We love the characters,

721
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 3: we love the murder, et cetera. So there are classically

722
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: six characters and Clue, right, including Missus Peacock, Misscarlett, Missus

723
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 3: White flawless trio.

724
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 4: Unfortunately Missus White had to go in this era. And

725
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 4: now we have doctor Doctor, who is a mean seeming

726
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 4: Asian doctor, and I am thrilled for her. I think

727
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 4: she looks great.

728
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: I mean she's got a bob speaking my language, and

729
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 3: I think as far as I can tell, she's holding

730
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: some sort of pipe or something, right, which is pipe?

731
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 4: Are you new?

732
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: Okay?

733
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I am new. I know nothing about that. Oh,

734
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 3: I mean I know a little bit. I just it's

735
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 3: been such a long time.

736
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: It's actually a sort of frustrating game to play, because

737
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: it's just about you have a certain amount of cards

738
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 4: in your hand and you have to discover what cards

739
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: everybody else has, So you're just walking around collecting every

740
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: bit of information bit by bit until you find the

741
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 4: solution to the game. Right, So it's just it's tedious.

742
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've now that I think about it. I tried

743
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: to play Clue once at my aunt's house. She didn't

744
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: have all the pieces, and he's wrong with your aunt. Oh,

745
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: they're a whole variety of things, and this is just

746
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: the top of the pile. I'm not gonna say which

747
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 3: aunt she's she's got trouble. But yeah, I never played Clue.

748
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: I also have never seen the movie all the way through.

749
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: Well, that Clue I've seen more than any other literal

750
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: piece of media. Like I think I've seen the movie

751
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 4: Clue more than I've seen a picture of Mickey Mouse.

752
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: What.

753
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I also grew up with it, so I

754
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: can't tell you one way or the other if it's

755
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 4: good or not right, right, Yeah, I think I tried

756
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: to watch it as an adult, and it's obviously like

757
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 4: an eighties comedy, correct was? It felt long and I

758
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 4: fell asleep at some point? Right, It is important because

759
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: it's the rare ensemble comedy movie where the three women

760
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: get I think, the funniest lines and also give the performances.

761
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 4: And it felt like some gay person was in charge

762
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: of that, but they weren't trust me. It was very

763
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: straight up of course run organizations.

764
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 3: Okay, So going back to getting gifts, do you enjoy

765
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 3: getting gifts?

766
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 4: Yes? I feel a little bit bad because I am

767
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 4: not a good gift giver personally. By the way, you know,

768
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 4: this isn't the whole gift. There's an oh yeah, of

769
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: course we're going to get back into very good circle back.

770
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: So I feel guilty often when I get a good

771
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 4: gift because I don't have a brain, right, Like, what

772
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 4: is what is your default gift you give to people?

773
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: Is it?

774
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: Are you giving people gift cards? Are you that person?

775
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: Or are you like trying to put some thought into

776
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 3: it and failing. I would be a gift card person

777
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 3: some at the time. Honestly, I have to change what

778
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: my default is because it's just not doable anymore. I

779
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: was somebody who would get you the movie you haven't

780
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: seen or the.

781
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 4: DVD set of a TV show I think you would like, right,

782
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 4: But obviously those days are gone. Right.

783
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 3: But I mean, we're putting all of our media into

784
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: some sort of space environment. When the system goes down,

785
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 3: all of our art is going to vanish.

786
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, exactly. Its crazy. I miss possessing aret, you

787
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: like I miss I mispossessing music.

788
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: I feel like at some point aliens will visit after

789
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 3: we vanished, and they're gonna be like, oh, society lasted

790
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 3: until two thousand and five. Yeah, and then we have

791
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 3: no real documents since you've been gone. Was the last

792
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: thing we made? Yes, and that just demolished society. Yeah,

793
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: that it is a little worrisome to me. I'm doing

794
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: nothing about it. I'm just embracing the fact that I

795
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 3: don't own anything anymore and it just rent everything I enjoy.

796
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. Right, it feels like we're headed down a bad path.

797
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: We might be already on it arguably.

798
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just I subscribe to all kinds of things,

799
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 3: and these corporate corporations are historically had our best interests

800
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 3: in mine. Oh yeah, so there are friends, Yeah, of course,

801
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: So why not just allow them to continue to charge

802
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: us and nothing bad will ever happen as we go

803
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: like grow it cross eyed and like Xanax, sleepy throughout.

804
00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

805
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: So gift cards, I think going back to those, Oh yeah,

806
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: how do you feel about them? I think that they've

807
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: been unfairly maligned. Yeah, I think there was a period

808
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: wheneveryone when it felt good to say that they were thoughtless.

809
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. But now I get a gift card, I'm thrilled.

810
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: I value more like having it. Yeah, I like having it,

811
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 4: and in fact, I almost like not spending it. Oh

812
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: let me tell you.

813
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: I got a gift card to Target for Christmas. I've

814
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: been to Target multiple times. It's Christmas, dozens of times.

815
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: I've spent I've spent definitely more than fifty dollars there.

816
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: But this gift card, the fifty dollars gift card is

817
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: still in my wallet. What am I waiting for? I

818
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: would love to know. Yeah, what is that going?

819
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 4: Because the answer is there's there's a satisfaction with spending

820
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: well on a gift card, so you don't just want

821
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 4: to waste it.

822
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, just like a mundane trying to put a little

823
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 3: way on salary or whatever. It's like, I don't know

824
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: all the celery I'm buy.

825
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 4: But it's like in Monopoly when you have the get

826
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: out of Jail Free card. It's just to see you

827
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 4: have it. Yeah, she's a little safety net.

828
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in your artillery and eventually you're going to

829
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 3: really go out, go all out on it right. I mean,

830
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: who knows what those fifty dollars are going to go towards?

831
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 4: Thank you? Lois? Wow? You know what Lois talk about.

832
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: The dadi's name, Well, it's Jim's mom, my boyfriend's mom.

833
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 3: So she is like a seventy two year old Italian woman.

834
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 3: So you know, Lois, Lois awesome. Husban calls her big Lou. Wow,

835
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: it's an incredible you know what. I don't have nicknames,

836
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 3: and I'm my my name is Lewis Like, yeah, nobody,

837
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 3: I can't you're not a Lou. It wouldn't that be

838
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: like shocking if somebody said to me calling you Lou.

839
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 3: I feel like you like some like a parent figure

840
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: could like have enough love for you to call you

841
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: Lou and you would be good with it.

842
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 4: But like a colleague calling you Lou, I think you

843
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: would murder them. No, I don't. I don't feel safe

844
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 4: when my mom calls me. It's always though, louis interesting.

845
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 4: I like that.

846
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: I like caw from the Jungle Book. She's got something

847
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: planned for you. Yes, Oh, call from the Jungle Book.

848
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: That's a good reference. What's the snake's name? Oh, that's

849
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: called what's the tiger's name shir Con, sure Con, that's right.

850
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 4: Great. George Sanders, Yeah, I had a.

851
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 3: Good childhood with the the soundtrack to The Jungle Book.

852
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just once a count of time. That would

853
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 4: have been in my top three Disney movie. I actually

854
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 4: cannot stand Disney fandom in any capacity. I'm sorry to

855
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: even you're a Disney freak. Yeah, certified Disney freak. You've

856
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 4: got the annual pass bumper sticker, right, which, by the way,

857
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 4: I still look at and think alien versus Predator every

858
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 4: time I see it.

859
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: Oh I nobody else think that. Yes, change the bumper sticker.

860
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm not thinking about Disney at all. I'm thinking about

861
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 3: alien fending, I mean, fighting off the Predator.

862
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, Jungle Book is lovely music.

863
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: Okay, well, but what were you I'm sorry, Louis, Yeah,

864
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 3: you were saying you're not a Disney person.

865
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 4: Correct? What are your Disney? Where were we headed?

866
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: There?

867
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: Were You're going to name your Oh? I was just

868
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 4: going to say, yeah, why did you bring up the

869
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 4: jungle Book? Why are we even on this podcast? Yeah?

870
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: Right, I'm going jungle Book was brought up because you

871
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 3: brought up called the Snake.

872
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, my mother the Serpent.

873
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: But then we headed down some some sort of Disney

874
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 3: Disney path and I don't know why.

875
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well anyway, I mean when I was a kid,

876
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: for example, you were surrounded by Disney fanatics, and I

877
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 4: was more the competitive kid, and so I was like

878
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 4: a game player that set me apart from kids and made.

879
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: Me better than them whenever you get past them in life,

880
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: Say what you have? Do you win every game you play?

881
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 4: No, well, I've I've gained friends who are similarly obsessive

882
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 4: and competitive, right, and and in fact are obsessive about

883
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: game shows like they I have friends who have they

884
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: build software so that you can play versions of game

885
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 4: shows in the seventies, eighties, nineties, whatever. This is amazing

886
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 4: that they used the original sound effects for and it's

887
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: so amazing, like you'll you'll play like whatever, one hundred

888
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 4: thousand dollars pyramid with the same sound effects that like

889
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 4: Dick Clark had or oh this is a dream world. Yeah,

890
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: but everybody there is also amazing at games, right, so

891
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 4: they really make me step up my game. But meanwhile,

892
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 4: like if I went to a game night that you

893
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 4: typically frequently, yes, I would beat everybody there.

894
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: Okay, no question, Well, challenge except our game. I would

895
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: love to be you, it'd be thrilling. But there's no

896
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 3: way you're that competitive. I'm not competitive at all, That's

897
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: what I mean. I'm frequently like I don't even want

898
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: to play the game precisely, I mean, especially if it's Yatzi.

899
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: I'm just like, why are we we're here together? Why

900
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: are we thinking about Yatzi? It requires so much of

901
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: your attention. Let's just sit So if Yaza gets brought up,

902
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: I just sabotage game night and we talk.

903
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: Right.

904
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing about Yachtzi. Is it a game Yazi?

905
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 4: You roll dice and then write it down. It's a

906
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 4: very odd very and I take other people out. It's

907
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: just simply rolling dice in order and the level of rules.

908
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 4: I have to remember this sort of thing. Well, it's

909
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 4: not difficult. That's a crazy thing to say, but okay,

910
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 4: but it's just a lot to remember. I feel like

911
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: there are just a lot of like little tricks, and

912
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 4: there are strategies, and I don't want to use that

913
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: use my brain for I don't know what I'm using

914
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 4: my brain for otherwise, but Yachtzi for me and game

915
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 4: night fellow members.

916
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, we're not going to play yachtzi and okay, yeah,

917
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: we play you know things that like just kind of

918
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: spark conversation. We've been playing like a game called like

919
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 3: list Domania. Do you know this game that sounds exactly

920
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: up my alley?

921
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 4: Right? Is it about writing lists? Yeah, you're right lists.

922
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 4: My brain is wired to rank things constantly. I don't

923
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: know that you're ranking things that would be a good game. Yeah,

924
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: I think about that often. Actually, I'm like, why don't

925
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 4: I have just I need on my phone list of

926
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 4: favorite TV shows, a list of favorite movies, just so

927
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: when this sort of thing comes up, because I immediately

928
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 4: draw a blank when someone says, what's your favorite? Oh

929
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 4: yeah blank?

930
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 3: But back yeah, the list of Mania game I think

931
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,919
Speaker 3: you like again, it has too many rules, this sort

932
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 3: of nonsense. But you essentially just write down various trivia

933
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: and have to list it in different ways. Okay, but

934
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: it's a good game. Okay, I know I'm sex to

935
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: that that sounds. There's always the thread of Cards against Humanity.

936
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: Everything will just throw myself in front of a car

937
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: to stop.

938
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 4: Well. Also, Cards against Humanity is like a compact version

939
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: of what is wrong with Twitter people choosing all of

940
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 4: their humor from a word bank, right, you know, it's

941
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 4: like you didn't come up with that. Yes, you you

942
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: tape together phrases that have done well from other people

943
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 4: and now are pretending you came up.

944
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: With something, but you did really funny nown Yes that

945
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: somehow someone thinks has an edge. It's the worst thing

946
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: in the world.

947
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 4: And also, as my friend Rachel pointed out about this game,

948
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: and yet it's rude to say you don't want to

949
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 4: play because it's a party game.

950
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: Of course, so I always feel a little guilty, but

951
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: I just mind ways around playing the game.

952
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 4: It's also just like I so enjoy being funny. I

953
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: enjoy being around funny people, and because in a way

954
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: it's like you're getting to know them, that's what they

955
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 4: think is funny. It's like there's a whole empathic thing

956
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: happening there. Cards against humanity like microwaves that and makes

957
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: you feel like you're getting you're delivering content to each

958
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 4: other when you're not.

959
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: Hopefully this podcast gets out to the people in my life,

960
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: stop asking me to play that game. Yeah, I think

961
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 3: it's so bad. Apples to apples though, I think it's

962
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: a perfectly pleasant Well, that's I never think about apples

963
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: tapples because Cards against Humanity like erased the memory of it. Basically, well,

964
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 3: they just took it and made it bad.

965
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, apples to apples is almost like, I

966
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 4: mean whatever, the question will be, like I forget how

967
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 4: Apple staples works, Like name something that makes you think

968
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: of an airplane and you have to put down Apple

969
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: Like it's like right exactly. I like that. I think

970
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 4: there's there's much money for you. Complete out of completely.

971
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: Exactly is harmless and is not trying to intentionally be

972
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 3: funny from the beginning.

973
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: Right.

974
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm gonna there's another gift, another item in

975
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 3: here that I'm gonna pull out.

976
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 4: Okay, just move on to that Taboo another game. Now

977
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: here's my question. Are you a taboo player? I've never

978
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 4: played Taboo? Do you know what it is? Do you

979
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 4: know how to play? I don't. Can you do a

980
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 4: quick rundown? Yes, you're getting through. You and your team

981
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: are trying to get through as many cards as possible

982
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: right on one turn. Okay, and there's a word you

983
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 4: have to you have to get your team to guess.

984
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 4: But there are five words on your cart. You are

985
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 4: not allowed to say in order to get them to

986
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 4: guess it. So, for example, if I was trying to

987
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 4: get you to say Oscar the Grouch, I probably wouldn't

988
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: be able to say green or trash can or a.

989
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: Sesame straight okay, sure, yeah, and so you just have

990
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 3: to use the rest of your vocabulary to get me

991
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 3: to guess this.

992
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: Yes, oh that sounds wonderful. It is a I think

993
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: it's among games in my life. I just think everybody

994
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 4: should have it because it helps you. I just feel

995
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: rhetorically right, you get smarter playing it and right. But

996
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 4: also I love getting mad at my friends and it

997
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: just feels it makes me feel safe. Game night, Game

998
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 4: Night's this sort of thing, are you or any of

999
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 4: the other adults in the room, like leaving angry? Yes?

1000
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 4: Sometimes right, oh wow, or like I usually think that

1001
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: will be me, like I'll be so mad or whatever,

1002
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 4: but I actually keep it under wraps somewhat well, which

1003
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 4: is shocked. There's just like a seed thing. Yeah. Normally

1004
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 4: it's the person who claims they are the most whimsical

1005
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 4: and care free I find who goes quickest to the

1006
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 4: like dark drunken, who's afraid of Virginia Wolf place. It

1007
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 4: needs to be removed.

1008
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 3: Have you seen any big explosions at a game night,

1009
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: a competitive game night?

1010
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: Oh?

1011
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 4: All the time? Please? I mean like I go to

1012
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: trivia in Santa Monica every week, which is no doubt

1013
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 4: about it. The hardest trivia are you called O'Brien's Wow? Okay?

1014
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 4: And I like, I would say I'm brilliant at trivia

1015
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 4: and I routinely come in at fiftieth percentile on wow?

1016
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 4: Who are these people doing better than you? Literally the

1017
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 4: greatest Jeopardy players of all time?

1018
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 2: Oh?

1019
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 4: What if you saw Brad Rudder on them? Sure? This

1020
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: is kind of there.

1021
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know any sports reference to say whatever

1022
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 3: that would be well actually showing up.

1023
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 4: That's accurate. It's like their scrimmage version of Jeopardy.

1024
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: Wow.

1025
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: And there's there'll always be like a question about something, Well,

1026
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 4: I'll say like geography or something. Right, and maybe two

1027
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: answers secretly did apply to the river you talked about,

1028
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 4: but you only accepted one. There are enough people here

1029
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 4: who I'm not kidding, will scream. I am routinely covering

1030
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 4: my ears because I can't handle the arguing. Oh my,

1031
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 4: And as I told you I kind of like arguing,

1032
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: of course, and this is too much for you. Well,

1033
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like people must be drunk on

1034
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 4: some level. No, no, they are dead sober, and uh,

1035
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: there's no other way to put it on the spectrum.

1036
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: And so this is a beautiful social environment. Yes, well,

1037
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 4: it's just shocking. It's people who are really good at trivia,

1038
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 4: and they wouldn't do this anywhere else really, because it's

1039
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 4: that it's at that level. But at the same time,

1040
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 4: oh my god, the amount of times I'm like, well,

1041
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: I can't play with him anymore, he'll kill me.

1042
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

1043
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 4: Have you ever have you ever won? Oh?

1044
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: Yes, okay quite a few times. Where what is your

1045
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: weakness with trivia? Where are you failing? I?

1046
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 4: I have a few actually current sports always, right, I

1047
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 4: can kind of do old sports simply because there's fewer names. Yes, yes,

1048
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 4: and they're they're more famous.

1049
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, there was a period when like we would

1050
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 3: pick four people from each category and make them the

1051
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 3: most famous people on the plant.

1052
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 4: That'd be That was my dream. Yes, like I know

1053
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 4: who I need to know when it comes to whatever.

1054
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 4: Swimming up until the year two thousand and eight, Okay,

1055
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: I don't know classical music, well, right, Economics when we

1056
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 4: get into like glossary terms.

1057
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 3: I mean, economics to me doesn't feel like trivia, you

1058
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 3: feel like because I know it's not general, quire's actual learning. Right,

1059
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 3: So those are kind of my three basic But like

1060
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 3: when it comes to names of any kind of really

1061
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 3: good yes, particularly women's names. All women are memorable. I

1062
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 3: think that's what I mean. I think that's true. Everyone

1063
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: has one little thing to offer or something. Right, Okay, economics,

1064
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: I think I would fail like with this list game.

1065
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: It frequently the game night just breaks down immediately to

1066
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 3: who went to a good college and who went to

1067
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: a state school.

1068
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm just failing me too. I'm a state school. Yeah,

1069
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: so I just.

1070
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I economics, anything along these lines,

1071
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 3: I would just be a giant falling.

1072
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 4: On my face. Were you a University of Utah, the

1073
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 4: University of utapic, right, where'd you go? University of Iowa? Okay,

1074
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: which is like the University of Utah but a little

1075
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 4: bit further the Yeah, perfectly fine, I have nothing wrong.

1076
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with a state school. I mean, we

1077
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: both made it in Hollywood, but it's it's it's shocking

1078
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 4: that I went there. I mean it's just imagine, imagine

1079
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 4: me being near football. Oh that's wild, absolutely crazy. I

1080
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 4: would watch a ballet about football. Oh sure, why not?

1081
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 4: You know? And is that?

1082
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 3: Has that been a thing yet? M coming soon, coming soon,

1083
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: the Whispertel Presents. Yeah, University of Utah. I mean it's

1084
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: a shock to me that I even graduated from college.

1085
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 3: The whole thing is a whole wild like, what happened?

1086
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 4: What was your major? English? English? Yeah? It took me

1087
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 4: one hundred years to graduate? Did it really? Yeah? I

1088
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 4: think it took me six years. What happened? Well, I

1089
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: was working and like paying for the colleges.

1090
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was just and then just like not

1091
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: quite knowing what I was doing. No one else in

1092
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: my family had graduated from college, so there was just

1093
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: not a real push to do it. And then of

1094
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: course I'm just not good at finishing things on time.

1095
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: Is that so? Oh?

1096
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 3: You seem so crackerjacked to me. Oh, well, I appreciate

1097
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 3: you ate that. I hope I'm putting off a cracker

1098
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: jack vibe. Yet it's not happening. Then my personal life, absolutely,

1099
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 3: you seem utterly dependable. I will the one thing you

1100
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 3: can depend on me is to be on time to dinner,

1101
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: a meeting, this sort of thing. I will be there

1102
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 3: five minutes early, right, no matter what. That's got to

1103
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 3: be some Mormon upbringing.

1104
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: That certainly has well. Yeah, I guess that is probably

1105
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 4: there's a sense of puritan I will be there. I

1106
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 4: will be there. I mean, actually, do you still not

1107
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: drink coffee?

1108
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

1109
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 4: I just I'm drinking because that's a Mormon thing too.

1110
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: That is a morbid thing, which is very confusing for

1111
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: a lot of people because I mean, we're not going

1112
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 3: to get into it and it's so boring. But the

1113
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 3: caffeine not right sense Mormons do drink caffeine, but not

1114
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 3: in coffee. But it's just it's kind of a make

1115
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 3: up your own rule sort of thing. Sure, but I'm

1116
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 3: drinking coffee right now. I trust Maroni. You know I

1117
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 3: feel that way, Morone. That's how you say that. Oh,

1118
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 3: here's a little piece of trivia for you, Morona.

1119
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 4: How crazy? Right, guys, it's not morone. Look at the word.

1120
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 4: It's Marony.

1121
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: Wrong.

1122
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 4: I believe that Marone.

1123
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: That's the angel on top of their temples, right, Yes,

1124
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: another piece of trivia for you. The Los Angeles Mormon

1125
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: Temple was used as an exterior on Law and Order

1126
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: as a courthouse. It's oh really is an episode? Well

1127
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 3: it's gigantic, right, Yeah, that's like in West l a R. Yeah,

1128
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: it's over in the worst part of Los Angeles where

1129
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 3: it's just question mark, Like what is this called? Yes,

1130
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 3: what who is here? And what are they doing? They

1131
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 3: have money? I think that's the only real answer over there.

1132
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 3: I think that's also kind of the part of the

1133
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: world where no one's vaccinating their kids. Oh really, I

1134
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: feel like I just read that going into Santa Monica

1135
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 3: be for the Hills, I think is one of the

1136
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 3: most highly unvaccinated parts of the country.

1137
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 4: Well, I have to tell you I was there yesterday

1138
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 4: and the stupidity made itself known. I have to let

1139
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 4: you know in which ways I was walking. Uh, id

1140
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 4: have to get a tux and I was just walking

1141
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 4: around and just it's it's one of those things like

1142
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 4: it's like when you see like an abandoned mall or

1143
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 4: something like that, even though it's fully populated, just like

1144
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 4: this was something else once upon a time and doesn't

1145
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 4: need to be here now. So whoever is here is

1146
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: misinformed and like got a pamphlet from the eighties they're

1147
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 4: still following.

1148
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 3: That makes perfect sense, actually, you know, yeah, because no

1149
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: one that has any actual interests is going over there

1150
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: for anything.

1151
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 4: It has nothing to offer. It's just it's the weirdest

1152
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 4: way to spend money. I don't know, in an Amazon universe.

1153
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 4: Doesn't make sense, you know. Okay, Well, we've got Taboo here,

1154
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 4: and I also I love.

1155
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: I can't believe you've never played it. You have to

1156
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 3: play it. It kind of I mean, the packaging has

1157
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 3: almost a horror element to it because it says the

1158
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 3: classic game of unspeakable fun. Oh and it also is

1159
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: threatening you to have fun. The electronic buzzer is bad.

1160
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 3: So I just feel like there's a lot of fear

1161
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,879
Speaker 3: built into this game of Taboo and I like it.

1162
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 4: I'm excited to play this. And it's the buzzer they're

1163
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 4: referring to. Is so, when you're reading the clues to

1164
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 4: your team, right, somebody from the other team is over

1165
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 4: your shoulder making sure you don't say the taboo words

1166
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 4: on the card, and they buzz you.

1167
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 3: Oh this sounds they should be shocking you. That this

1168
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: game could really benefit from a taser. Oh, I guess,

1169
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 3: just a quick jolt to the system. I would be

1170
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: into that, or just like a full slap. If you

1171
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 3: don't have a buzzer, you can be slapped. I would

1172
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: love a physical version of taboo or everyone walks away

1173
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: with just like a red mark on their cheek, right

1174
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 3: and that mistake again. Yeah, of course I could get

1175
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 3: into that. Taboo hasbro again, you're on the line.

1176
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 4: Think about it.

1177
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 3: Put in some diverse characters into guess who make taboo

1178
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: more violent. We're going to move in, speaking of games,

1179
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: where at the point of the podcast where we're going

1180
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 3: to play a game. Okay, and this is really intimidating

1181
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 3: because you're you play so many games, so who knows

1182
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 3: if you're going to like it, but I like watch

1183
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: games might be up your alley.

1184
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: Okay.

1185
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 3: This game is called Gift Master, all right, now, what

1186
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: is going to happen is I'm going to name three gifts,

1187
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: three different separate things that you can give as a gift,

1188
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 3: and then three celebrities. You have to tell me which

1189
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: gift you're going to give to which celebrity and why.

1190
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 4: I can't think of anything I'd rather do. That's so exciting. Okay,

1191
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: So I need a number between one and ten from you.

1192
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 4: Very good. I'm going to pick the gayest number. Four.

1193
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 4: Four is the gayest of all numbers. Four.

1194
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 3: I'm going to calculate this, and while I'm doing that,

1195
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: I want you to You can recommend something, you can

1196
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: promote something, just do whatever you want with an undetermined

1197
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 3: amount of time while I calculate. Oh okay, I guess. Unfortunately,

1198
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: you can still find me on Twitter at Lewis Vertel

1199
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: alo UIs v I r T E l I.

1200
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 4: As Bridge mentioned before, I host a podcast called keep It,

1201
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: which is on Crooked Media with Iram Madison the Third

1202
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: and Aida Osmond talk about pop culture news of the

1203
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 4: week and also other things. When we're bored with that

1204
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: pop culture news you ever heard of podcast? It's like that.

1205
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

1206
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 4: Otherwise, Yeah, listen to Jimmy or listen to Jimmy Kimmel Live,

1207
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 4: put on the Jimmy Kimmel Radio Show. Listen to his comedy. Yeah,

1208
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 4: he's still on ABC. Nice guy. I always say about

1209
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: Jimy Kimmel that his cynicism is aimed in all the

1210
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 4: right places, not at the people who work for him,

1211
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 4: but at people like Republicans. So he's as normal a

1212
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 4: superstar as you can meet. God what else can I promote?

1213
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 4: A big fan of Dua Lipa's new album, I would say,

1214
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 4: are the three singles we have so far? I always

1215
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 4: wonder if dua Lipa is a Latin term meaning damp woman,

1216
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 4: because she's so damp all the time. Why is her

1217
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 4: hair wet? When did we invent you look wet? That

1218
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 4: looks good? Why? I'm sorry that took so long to calculate,

1219
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 4: but I'm thrilled with what was just being said. I

1220
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 4: feel like a.

1221
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 3: Lot of material was presented there, and I hope people

1222
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 3: can take something away from that. I haven't heard of

1223
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: du Alipas, by the way, never asked.

1224
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: You what you know? New rules one to pick up

1225
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 4: the phone? You only you don't know. I've never heard this.

1226
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 4: I need tossing at all. I can't believe I'm gonna

1227
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 4: have to take a look. But this all goes back

1228
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 4: to me.

1229
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: I don't know where everyone's getting their information from, but

1230
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 3: I just I'm of course familiar with du Alipa. How

1231
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 3: have I never heard her music in five years? I'm

1232
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 3: going to be saying to somebody, I heard it that

1233
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 3: du Alipa song that Jim and I hated it, and

1234
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: I just need to. I need like an assistant that

1235
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: just keeps me up.

1236
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 4: To date on these things. I don't know how that works.

1237
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 3: Okay, the three gifts that you are going to be

1238
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: dealing with here, okay, A hot glue gun very good,

1239
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 3: A game boy great, and a DVD of This Is forty,

1240
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 3: which I've never seen.

1241
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 4: How crazy?

1242
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So here we go. The people you have to

1243
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: give these gifts to. Sandra Oh. That guy from Limp

1244
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 3: Biscuit with the black contacts. Oh, I didn't look up

1245
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: his name, but I remembered him and thought, why not

1246
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 3: put him on.

1247
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 4: I actually can't believe. I don't know that guy's name

1248
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 4: right now, but I feel like it's something frightening like Scarecrow.

1249
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 3: Let's assume his name is Scarecrow, Fred Durst's friend Scarecrow.

1250
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: And Janet Jackson.

1251
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 4: Wow, well, I'm definitely in the business of giving gifts

1252
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 4: to Janet Jackson. I see that in my life for me. Oh,

1253
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 4: it should happen at some point. So, okay, a hako

1254
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 4: gun This is forty. What was the other thing? The

1255
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 4: other thing was a game boy? I think the answer

1256
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 4: is I Okay, Sandra Oh definitely had a game Boy

1257
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 4: at some point in her life. Okay, okay, she seems

1258
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 4: like an entertained Personah, it seems what she likes and

1259
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 4: she's on the go, yes, oh please, So she's like

1260
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 4: she needs to be entertained when she's on the train,

1261
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 4: when she's on the plane, just when she's getting around

1262
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 4: to her next appointment. And we're talking about original recipe

1263
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 4: game boy, we're looking like the one that's essentially the

1264
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 4: size of two bricks. Yes, that you cannot see the screen, right, Yes,

1265
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 4: it's that kind of a that non paltrad green that

1266
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 4: you have to be a perfect you can only play

1267
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: during Golden hour, right, Okay? And you know who definitely

1268
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 4: had a game Boy, the Limp Scarecrow. Oh no, I

1269
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 4: feel like he's a Sega game gear woe. Like he

1270
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 4: had a game gear. Do you know what I had?

1271
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 4: Do you know what? This is an obscure gaming reference?

1272
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 4: I had a game Com game Calm No, And I

1273
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 4: feel like I know these things. The year was exactly

1274
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight, okay, in ninety seven, and it was

1275
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 4: the size about a brick, right, And it had a

1276
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 4: pen you operated the screen. Oh that's always a good sign. Yes,

1277
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 4: And I got it because there was a version of

1278
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 4: Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy on it. I want oh beautiful. Yeah,

1279
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 4: but a game con? Game Calm, calm a game Oh,

1280
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 4: game con sounds like I guess that's probably a thing.

1281
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 4: Yeah right, Oh yeah, I don't need to go to

1282
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 4: game coll No one needs to go to game con.

1283
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna give the game Boy to Janet

1284
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 4: Jackson to see if she has memories of playing a

1285
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 4: game Boy. Oh interesting, what if you know? You give

1286
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 4: it to Jana Jackson. She's like, oh, doctor Mario or

1287
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 4: whatever with her curiously high voice. That voice is incredible.

1288
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,160
Speaker 3: Anytime she checks in on Facebook or whatever, it's a

1289
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 3: real gift to everyone.

1290
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 4: I feel the only time she talks, she is murmuring

1291
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 4: thinking her fans, thank you guys for being there for me, you.

1292
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: Know, like that all the time, Like that's all she

1293
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 3: says she's never had. I mean, in the last twenty years,

1294
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,600
Speaker 3: she hasn't had just a conversation like an adult.

1295
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 4: I don't think. No, you go to coffee with Channa Jackson,

1296
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 4: She's like, the fans have always been there for me. Okay,

1297
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 4: so she's getting the game Boy. Yeah, I think that.

1298
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: I think that that actually makes sense. I think she was.

1299
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: Just famous enough at the point of the release of

1300
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: the Game Boy that it didn't cross her radar.

1301
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 4: You think it might be So it's the lady, right, yeah? Right,

1302
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 4: So she's definitely in rhythmation. She's a busy dancing up

1303
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 4: a storm, right, yes, redefining the choreographically. Yeah, friending with

1304
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 4: Paula Abdul was making all the moves happen, trying to

1305
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 4: distance herself brother right, being successful? Yeah, you know, uh

1306
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 4: but if she picked up if she picked up a

1307
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 4: and was like Zelda right, that would be really worth

1308
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 4: it to me. I would love to hear Janet Jaggs

1309
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 4: and say Zelda right. Okay.

1310
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 3: I think that's an excellent choice. You're left with now.

1311
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 4: Oh, I have to assign the other two. Oh yeah,

1312
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 4: very blue gun. A DVD of this is forty okay, well,

1313
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 4: the DVD of this is forty uh huh. I want

1314
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 4: to know if Scarecrow likes the conventional comedy, but can

1315
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 4: he dial into that Let's see. I feel like I

1316
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 4: actually kind of believe he can. Okay, I feel like, yeah,

1317
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 4: thinks of Leslie Mann, so I want to do it. Yeah.

1318
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 3: He I feel like he's probably taken the contacts out

1319
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 3: by now, and it's probably he's probably just living among us.

1320
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 3: We're all we know, no, as a normal man. My

1321
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: dream is that he is now works on a farm

1322
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: somewhere with the contacts in the exact same two thousand.

1323
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 3: Look he's actually I mean, it's probably time for him

1324
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 3: to make his comeback. I feel like we've unfortunately forgotten

1325
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 3: the lessons of history and are allowing new metal to

1326
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: creep back into our lives, right, and it's horrifying. Yeah, no,

1327
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 3: I long for him. I feel like Grimes is going

1328
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 3: to have him guessed on her album or something and tough.

1329
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 3: It's scary to watch it happen because I lived through

1330
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 3: that period of history and it was not positive. You

1331
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: seem shaken, Yeah, I'm very shaken. The wide leg jeans,

1332
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: oh god, I'm still traumatized by having to wear white

1333
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 3: leg jeans. I can't picture you in a wide leg

1334
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 3: jeans truly.

1335
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 4: I mean, like I think most of my friends would say,

1336
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 4: I dress in very tight clothes. Sure, and it's because

1337
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 4: I am constantly compensating for the shame I felt wearing

1338
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 4: baggy clothes. We can't go back to that. No, it

1339
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 4: was horrible. We all have.

1340
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 3: For a period, we found our bodies and like allowed

1341
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 3: them to be as we could see that people were

1342
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: people shaped the last few years and I feel like

1343
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 3: we're headed back towards something that is not good.

1344
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 4: No. Remember there was a period in our lives where

1345
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 4: you had to look like you skateboarded.

1346
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 3: Yes, yes you and not well no, like those jinkos

1347
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 3: were dragging behind you on the skateboard. And the only

1348
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: pragmatic application there was that you wanted pants where you

1349
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 3: could fit a whole disc man in the pocket.

1350
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 4: Right, So now.

1351
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 3: Obviously we don't need that, Yes, I mean, so stop

1352
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: pretending we do exactly you know. Yeah, it felt like

1353
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 3: a period where every teen boy was wearing a floor

1354
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 3: length denim skirt. Yes, the silhouette, Yes, what is happening?

1355
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 4: Like a Victorian?

1356
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to go back to it. Yeah, I

1357
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 3: do feel like I've gotten to the age of it.

1358
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,600
Speaker 3: I can just embrace what I want to wear, and

1359
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: it's like, well, I'm an adult and this is my look.

1360
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 3: But so I if wide leg jeans do make their

1361
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 3: big comeback, I think I've boarded up the house. I

1362
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 3: can keep them out right, But who knows? You never

1363
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 3: know what that.

1364
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 4: In a world with pinterest, where like I feel like

1365
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 4: all styles are relevant at all times, I feel like

1366
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 4: you won't be forced to wear white leg jeans. I

1367
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 4: have been educated recently that we're post fashion. Yeah, oh

1368
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 4: that's nice.

1369
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: You can just do whatever you want and if it's

1370
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 3: your look, it's your look, which may just be an

1371
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: excuse to do whatever you want. Yeah, as sociopath told

1372
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 3: you this, but yeah, I think actually you never know. Okay,

1373
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 3: but back to Okay, he's getting Scarecrow has got the DVD,

1374
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 3: probably definitely owns a DVD player.

1375
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 4: Yep, he's watching that. Okay. Sandra is gun because you

1376
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 4: know what would be thrilling to me if she were handy.

1377
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: Oh sure, she's like, oh you know, if she had

1378
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 4: like a shed she needed to fix, or something that

1379
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 4: would really a boom gun.

1380
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 3: That's how sheds work. To watch Sandra fix an entire

1381
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 3: shed using nothing but her hot glue.

1382
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 4: You know how you walk into a shed if you're

1383
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 4: little something unglued about this, and then you fix it.

1384
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 3: I also can see Sandra using the hot glue gun

1385
01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 3: in kind of a hostage situation or something like she

1386
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 3: doesn't have her weapon. She does see the hot glue gun.

1387
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: She's going to save the hostages using nothing but this

1388
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 3: hot glue gun.

1389
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and she nobody registers urgency on a face

1390
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 4: like Chandra, so she would be very successful. I can

1391
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 4: totally I can see her doing that in a Wait,

1392
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 4: what's the series?

1393
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: Uh?

1394
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 4: What's raised? Anatomy? Killing Eve?

1395
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: Killing Eve? Yes, Killing Eve? Season three coming up? Hmm,

1396
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,919
Speaker 3: she's got the glue gun. I see, Lewis, You've absolutely

1397
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 3: nailed it with that.

1398
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you.

1399
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 3: We're going to move into the final segment here. I

1400
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 3: said no questions. Very good people are writing and they're

1401
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 3: asking for help to I said no gifts at gmail

1402
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 3: dot com they have they're having trouble giving gifts. We're

1403
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 3: going to try to help one or two people and

1404
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 3: just get them on their way. Let me read this

1405
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 3: to you first up High Bridger, My mom's birthday is

1406
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 3: coming up, but she's been on a Marie Condo kick

1407
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 3: trying to clear out the house. What should I get

1408
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 3: her that won't just add more clutter? That's from Andrew

1409
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 3: in Miami. Andrew's mom is finally throwing some things out

1410
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: and he's about to bring something else into her life. Well,

1411
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 3: I feel like the answer is a box full of containers.

1412
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 4: Am I wrong?

1413
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

1414
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 3: Not a bad idea, just something that she can the

1415
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: things that she does want to keep. She's going to

1416
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 3: put in some tupperware.

1417
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, minute little things to put other minute little

1418
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 4: things inside. That is the revelation of Marie Kanda, right. Yes,

1419
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 4: and she's also like the world's greatest gammer of all

1420
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 4: time because she has one tip. Oh and by the way,

1421
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 4: she has no time to stay in your house. No,

1422
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 4: and she the difference she makes in your home is

1423
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 4: not significant. No, she comes in and she's like, do

1424
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 4: you really like that scarf? Tea and walks out. And

1425
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 4: also her folding techniques are impossible to replicate. The specifically underwear.

1426
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 4: The underwear thing is never happening. That the way she

1427
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: folds underwear means she has killed before and will kill her.

1428
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 4: Of course, if I was going through someone's clothing and

1429
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 4: found their underwear away triangle, yeah, I would think you're

1430
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 4: looking for the exit immediately, right, and the exit is

1431
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 4: now locked. Do not treat my briefs like a bandanna, No,

1432
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 4: absolutely not. I'm throwing them. I'm piling them in a drawer.

1433
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 4: That's all they need right, No, you can see all

1434
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 4: of them just in a drawer. Yes, they don't need

1435
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 4: to be origami swans or whatever.

1436
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 3: It makes no sense, Marie. Yeah, I think some sort

1437
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 3: of a container would be good.

1438
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 4: I guess you know.

1439
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 3: I said tupperware and immediately thought there's probably some sort

1440
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 3: of environmental problem with that. Let's do a basket. Let's

1441
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: do something that will eventually fall apart in the dirt.

1442
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,919
Speaker 4: Also, there's something decorative about a basket. You can't Baskets

1443
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 4: are something that can't become outmoded because there's such a

1444
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 4: pleasure to see.

1445
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 3: Right, it adds a little extra something. Or you know,

1446
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 3: it sounds like she's doing a lot of hard work

1447
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 3: around the house. Maybe it's something like a massage. Let's

1448
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 3: help mom relax after throwing out all of the Christmas ornaments.

1449
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 4: I feel like we're racing headlong to a future of

1450
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 4: buying only services for each other.

1451
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and yeah, I think just as a society, none

1452
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 3: of us is going to own any physical item, right,

1453
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 3: and then we're gonna pan. There's gonna be a moment

1454
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: of panic in the near future. I wish I owned something.

1455
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 4: Right, No, you'll be assigned a collar and your wholehouse

1456
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 4: will be that and that's all you have.

1457
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 3: The walls will be that color, right and right? Okay, Andrew,

1458
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 3: problem solves. Mom's going to be thrilled. Moving on, Bridger,

1459
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 3: My friend gave me a beautiful walk for my birthday

1460
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 3: and said he can't wait for me to invite him

1461
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: over for a walk dinner. Okay, but I hate walks

1462
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,439
Speaker 3: and I want to return it. Am I obligated to

1463
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 3: cook the dinner for him as a thank you thanks

1464
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 3: Darlene in Portland. You know what he could have done

1465
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 3: bought himself a walk or just taken you both out

1466
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 3: to a Chinese restaurant or something. Is this feels crazy

1467
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 3: to me? I mean, I mean the Darlene on a

1468
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 3: lot of levels, you hate walk Who has an opinion

1469
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: that's strong of an opinion on walks?

1470
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 4: This guy? Really? Wait? I assume did I thought? She? Did?

1471
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 4: She say? He am? I? Yeah?

1472
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 1: Him?

1473
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay. He couldn't have been more wrong about Darlene,

1474
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 4: I know.

1475
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 3: I mean, she obviously has a strong preference about this,

1476
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 3: and I feel like if you have a strong opinion

1477
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 3: about walks, everyone knows maybe this is kind of an

1478
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 3: in your face. Every element of it does feel a

1479
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 3: little like, Darlene, look that I got you, and look

1480
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 3: a you're going to be using when I come over

1481
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 3: to see it after you haven't been able to return it.

1482
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 4: Is it in fact an intervention like they're worried about

1483
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 4: her anti walk stance and want to, you know, get

1484
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 4: your back in the good graces of society. Darlene.

1485
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 3: I think your only choice here is to I think

1486
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 3: use the walk poorly. Yes, show the friend. That's the

1487
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,640
Speaker 3: only revenge you can get here is of course, you

1488
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 3: can come over for a walk dinner and I'm going

1489
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 3: to make some I'm going to undercook the meat. You're

1490
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 3: probably gonna end up sick, and it's all your fault.

1491
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 4: It's very I feel like it should be the fatal

1492
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 4: attraction response, you know, where they boil the bunny or whatever.

1493
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, takes something that is meaningful to him and

1494
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 4: then kill it or cook it in the walk, right.

1495
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 3: I mean, both of the people in this situation feel

1496
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 3: like full manias to me, and I almost feel unsafe

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01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 3: advising either of you. But it's a ken of mouse

1498
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: game here. It's a total like what team I'm on? Yeah,

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01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 3: it's going to have a thrilling conclusion. I can only

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01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 3: imagine despite this person being named Darlene. Well, the question

1501
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: is am I obligated to cook the dinner for him

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01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 3: as a thank you?

1503
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 4: No?

1504
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: But ultimately, in the greater scheme of things in your

1505
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 3: relationship with this lunatic, you owe it to yourself to

1506
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 3: make him a horrible dinner, bring him over, and then

1507
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 3: throw the walk out because you're not going to see

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01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: him again.

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01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 4: I assume any food you would want from a walk

1510
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 4: can be made other ways, in a way Darlene likes,

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 4: so she could also just make it. Yeah, I mean

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01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 4: fried rice? Can you make that in a okay?

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01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 2: Man?

1514
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what. I don't cook. And I even

1515
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 4: brought up fake expertise about the matter.

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01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: I've seen a walk used, but I can't recommend anything

1517
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 3: to make in a nice stir fry Darling. Good luck.

1518
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 3: I don't know, Lewis, it's been an absolute pleasure. You've

1519
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: nailed it with the game. We gave both of these

1520
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 3: people perfect advice. I now have two beautiful games to

1521
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 3: take a game night.

1522
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 4: I need you to. We need to play Taboo, and

1523
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 4: even though you are not competitive, you will be frightened

1524
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 4: into enjoying it.

1525
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 3: Okay, I that's the only way I enjoy things to

1526
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 3: be just scared shaken. Yes, I just my back should

1527
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 3: be against the wall and I should be terrified.

1528
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 4: I want you to I want you startled and alerts. Well,

1529
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 4: thank you for being here, and thank you for being you.

1530
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 4: I just love you to death.

1531
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 3: I'm so happy you had me on Well, look him

1532
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 3: up on Twitter, look up his Instagram because he's the

1533
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 3: only person correctly using Instagram story and so every once

1534
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 3: in a while, yeah, you get and I truly when

1535
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 3: I see fifty Instagram stories any other person I'm muting, yeah,

1536
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 3: or your homicidal area. But you're going to have a

1537
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: wonderful time with Lewis. All right, Well, goodbye. That's the

1538
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: end of the podcast. I Said No Gifts isn't exactly

1539
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: right production. It's engineered by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris.

1540
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,600
Speaker 3: The theme song is by Miracle Worker Amy Man. You

1541
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 3: can follow the show on Instagram and Twitter at I

1542
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 3: Said No Gifts and if you have a question or

1543
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 3: need help getting a gift for someone in your life,

1544
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 3: email me at I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com.

1545
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 3: Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, or wherever you

1546
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 3: found me and Why not leave a review while you're

1547
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: at it?

1548
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: Hell, why did you hear? Fun?

1549
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 4: A man?

1550
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:55,839
Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? But you're I guess Tom, you gotta

1551
01:15:55,960 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 1: come to me empty, and no guess your own presence

1552
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: is presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So

1553
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: how do you dare to surbey me?