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Speaker 1: Boy. He lives in Denver, three time Super Bowl champ

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Speaker 1: with the Broncos for several years and now Mark Slaret

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Speaker 1: is Fox Sports NFL analyst. So you get the weekend

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Speaker 1: off this weekend and you can watch football while many

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Speaker 1: of us were watching Kansas City and Denver. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting about bo Nix?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: And I think Caleb Williams falls into that. It's uneven.

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Speaker 1: It's you kind of feel like bo Nick should run more.

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Speaker 1: The Bears do run more as a team. I keep

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Speaker 1: coming down. This is something that really impresses me about Bonex.

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Speaker 1: He has thrown the most passes in the league since

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Speaker 1: he arrived. And I said this earlier. The greatest compliment

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Speaker 1: that a parent can give a child at an early

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Speaker 1: age is responsibility. I trust you picking up your sister

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Speaker 1: at school. I trust you. I'm leaving babysit your brothers

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Speaker 1: and sisters. Sean Payton has basically done what Andrew luck

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Speaker 1: felt with Bruce arians here's the whole playbook. Go for it,

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Speaker 1: and that's hard. They got a lot of penalties. So

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Speaker 1: my takeaway and all the bow stuff is Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: is telling me listen, I'm giving you the whole playbook.

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Speaker 1: I'm giving you the Drew Brees playbook. Big Ben didn't

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Speaker 1: get that. I don't think Caleb's gotten that. That to

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Speaker 1: me is a real thing. Your thoughts on that theory

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Speaker 1: or that opinion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're a hundred percent right. You know,

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Speaker 3: I've talked about it here a bunch on local radio

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Speaker 3: on my podcast. There are times when I'm like, hey man,

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Speaker 3: the answer is always simplify, Like, if you're having issues

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Speaker 3: Normally what you say is amen, it's too complicated and offensively.

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Speaker 3: You know, by the way you motion a bunch of

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Speaker 3: late all that stuff. Usually the answer, or it's always

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Speaker 3: been in my case, is simplify this. Let's make it

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Speaker 3: easier on our players. And I think one of the

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Speaker 3: things Sean is saying to you is we've got a

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Speaker 3: defense that's ay championship caliber defense is a historic type defense, right,

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Speaker 3: So we have that aspect and we've got a quarterback

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Speaker 3: not worried right now about the regular season. Will win

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Speaker 3: games based on our defense in the regular season. To

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Speaker 3: get where we want to go, which is a world championship,

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Speaker 3: we need the full compliment of offensive place. We need everything.

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Speaker 3: So if I simplify, then I'm not developing. If I simplify,

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Speaker 3: I'm not putting my quarterback with the most weapons available

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Speaker 3: when we get to the playoffs. If I simplify, I'm

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Speaker 3: doing disservice to my football team. So I'm going to

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Speaker 3: put us in a tough position. I am not I'm

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Speaker 3: not going to pare down the offense. I'm not going

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Speaker 3: to quit with my personnel packages. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: on my quarterback. He's going to play and Gun because

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Speaker 3: Payton is telling you right now, is that I'm not

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Speaker 1: So it was a different era. But when you played

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Speaker 3: Play it is? Yeah, yeah. I think one of the

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Speaker 3: and ultimately, for Sam Darlold, you just got to say, dude,

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Speaker 3: football because we've got a football team that is phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: And you think about what happened. I thought the Rams

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Speaker 3: National Football League. You turn the ball over four times,

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Speaker 3: That defense is that good. And oh, by the way,

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Speaker 3: There are certain games calling you walk away from as

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Speaker 3: a player, even though it's a loss, where you go,

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Speaker 3: we're damn good. Yeah, And I think Seattle would look

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Speaker 3: We should have won that game right there, and you

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Speaker 3: at that. If I'm Sam Darnold, quit trying to impress people.

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Speaker 3: You've already won the job. You're already that good. You've

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Speaker 3: had a phenomenal season. Man, just don't turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: So you know you were lucky you had really good

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Speaker 1: And I watched JJ McCarthy and I'm like, they got

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Speaker 1: And what a player say privately that they won't say publicly,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough when the guys, you know, struggling And

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Speaker 3: I've been in you know, I've been in that situation.

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Speaker 3: What you have to remember is JJ McCarthy didn't play

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Speaker 3: Like when I watch him on film, that's usually going

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Speaker 3: And he had some drops last weekend against Chicago, But

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Speaker 3: there are just too many throws that are just off

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Speaker 3: Denver here when we talked about bow Nicks, when bow

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Speaker 3: just his level of inaccuracy or his level of just

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Speaker 3: And you've got to have energy in your feet, but

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Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up with this. Kansas City's interesting. They

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Speaker 1: won every close game last year, they've lost all of

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Speaker 1: we know Mahomes is talented. I do think they got

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: that really concerns me the most good stuff. Mark schlaur

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Speaker 3: As always no game this week. You gotta sit home

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Speaker 3: How about that? How good is that going to be?

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Speaker 1: Well? Last week you had Titans Texans, and I pity

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Speaker 3: You all right, man, take care.

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Speaker 2: J Mack with a news No, no, this is the

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right.

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Speaker 7: Let's get started with the spitting incident from over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Colin Weird. I think it's like the third one of

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Speaker 7: So obviously there was the Jamar Chase Jalen Ramsey dust

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Speaker 7: can see the video and the line on Bengals Patriots

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Speaker 7: has ballooned up from seven to eight and a half.

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Speaker 7: All of a sudden, Patriots have Christian Gonzalez, right, put

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Speaker 7: Joe Flacco. I like the Patriots here, Colin. I don't

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Speaker 1: On, I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: I just I.

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Speaker 1: Don't know what drives you to do that.

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Speaker 7: Well, not shown here is a right before this, Jalen

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Speaker 7: he retaliated with this.

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Speaker 1: But what do they say, too wrong, don't make a

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Speaker 7: I don't make a lot of wrongs, so I'm not saying.

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Speaker 7: But anyway, so Chase suspended Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: No word yet.

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Speaker 7: We're keeping an eye on that. Now, Burrow, all of

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Speaker 7: But I still think the Bengals are toasted season, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they They're not a playoff team.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 7: Let's move on to Shineur Sanders. He had his debut

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Speaker 7: Vegas Raiders this weekend. Here's Kevin Stefanski talking about his

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Speaker 8: Chador is putting in great work and you know on

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Speaker 3: Would be better. But we trust him.

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Speaker 8: Uh and he's somebody that's that's continued to put in

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Speaker 1: You know, this is the strangest I always thought Tim

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Speaker 1: Tebow had the most illusional fans. I think Shadors surpassed that.

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Speaker 1: This idea, this this criticism of Stefanski, Well, he's not

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Speaker 1: quarterback means you often, don't you do you? Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: The great ones are not giving. If you think Brett

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Speaker 1: was getting poked in the ribs by you know, snarky

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Speaker 1: funny Aaron Rodgers, Josh Dobbs won a game in the

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Speaker 1: There are certain jobs that you I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: That's a week toss at Kevin Stefani his job. By

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Speaker 3: Is a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Why would he give him? Why would he not give

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I should point out you mentioned Josh Dobbs and

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Speaker 1: He just show up boost physicist. Yeah he was smart, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I don't know what che Door's degree was at Colorado.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just say this, he was very, very

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Speaker 1: That's what you look like. Just stop making excuses you

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Speaker 1: I go to Tony Gonzalez's career. Tony Gonzalez was a

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Speaker 7: I watch the Raiders last night. You watch that game.

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Speaker 7: Their defense is not good. Deck did whatever he wanted.

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Speaker 7: Now Dak has better weapons. There's a world where six

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Speaker 7: Shaduer had some success on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Come, I'm not going to shock you. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: shocked if he throws for two hundred and fifty yards

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Speaker 3: Ask you this.

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Speaker 1: You love Rock Purty. How many first team reps do

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Speaker 1: you think he got before Trey Lance and Jimmy g

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Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, you're not that athletic Josh Allen can

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Speaker 7: Final story constant the NBA, Well, Lebron James May May

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Speaker 7: Here at the Crypt, Lebron ramped up with the Lakers

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Speaker 1: Was it practice? You could see the videos all over Instagram.

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Speaker 1: That's fine.

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Speaker 7: We're talking about the greatest player of all time at

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Speaker 7: Lebron plays fifteen minutes tonight and you lead the show

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Speaker 1: Hi May He's gonna take some shots away from Austin Reeves,

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Speaker 1: not Luca, but Austin. He'll take shots away from Ruey

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Speaker 7: He's a team player. He's not a selfish individual. You

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Speaker 1: loves it in Los Angeles. Doesn't want to go to

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Speaker 1: the Bulls, doesn't want to go to Milwaukee Bucks. For

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Speaker 1: your honest he loves la Jmack with a news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd lot.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's saying Lebron's talent isn't an additive to a team.

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Speaker 1: But I've said before is that Luca Lebron and Austin

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Speaker 1: Reeves there's a lot of duplication. They're very good with

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Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, Luca is the best offensive player

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Speaker 1: right now in the NBA. He wants the ball and

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Speaker 1: you got to give it to him. He's in his prime.

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Speaker 1: It's skinny jeans Luca. So there is implication. This team

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Speaker 1: does not have a rim protector, and they're not good

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Speaker 1: enough athletically on the wing defensively. So when you have duplication,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like a team that that's got excellent

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Speaker 1: running backs but need some perimeter weapons. If you have

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Speaker 1: three good running backs, move one and get a number

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Speaker 1: two or number three perimeter weapon. So I just it's

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Speaker 1: not that Lebron will make the team worse, but it'll

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Speaker 1: look different, the spacing will be different. Austin Reeves will

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Speaker 1: get fewer looks, and Austin's very good with the ball.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Luca's second in usage rate, So the Lakers

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Speaker 1: are winning giving Luca the ball a lot. Lebron's going

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Speaker 1: to have the ball some He's going to probably drop

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Speaker 1: in usage right or Austin Reeves is, So the offense

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Speaker 1: won't look the same or feel quite the same. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how what works out. It's the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 1: I was kind of it was funny this morning we

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Speaker 1: were talking about Sam Donald and Andrew Luck and I

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Speaker 1: we just we came in this morning. We do about

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Speaker 1: an hour and a half prep in the morning, and

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Speaker 1: I said, go look at Andrew Luck's career interception numbers,

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Speaker 1: because I had said years ago when he came into

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Speaker 1: the league. I said, I think Sam, you know Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck played at Stanford in the PAC twelve and Sam

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Speaker 1: did at USC and I said, I bet their interception

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Speaker 1: numbers are kind of similar. I had no idea how

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Speaker 1: similar they were. And again, Luck played in a weaker division.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have Belichick in his division twice a year,

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Speaker 1: and Andrew Luck had Bruce Arians. And when you look

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Speaker 1: at the Sam Donald Andrew Luck, That's why I've defended

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold. He's a playmaker. He can be reckless. Farv

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Speaker 1: was reckless, Elway was reckless. Andrew Look and Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1: If you look at their career numbers, they're incredibly similar.

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Speaker 1: Sam's actually more accurate. But it's crazy. I mean their

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Speaker 1: passer ratings. Both have nine games with three plus interceptions,

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Speaker 1: And I mean, here was here was? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: just think, I like people love Cam Newton, and Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton never had back to back winning seasons. Sam is

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Speaker 1: now going to have back to back winning seasons with

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Speaker 1: two different teams. Like it's about winning and if you

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Speaker 1: take the Jets out, Sam was a winner in Carolina

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Speaker 1: four and two, a winner in Minnesota, and a winner

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Speaker 1: in Seattle. So here was Sean McVay yesterday, despite picking

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Speaker 1: off four of his passes, talking about Donald.

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Speaker 4: I think Sam has done a great job, and I

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Speaker 4: totally agree how well he's played. I think it's the

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Speaker 4: epitome of Russian coverage playing together. And that's why I

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Speaker 4: always think stats are for losers because we had zero sacks.

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Speaker 4: But those four interceptions were such a great combination of

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Speaker 4: he gets sped up with Russian cover, you feel that

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Speaker 4: pocket collapse, he has to deliver the ball earlier than

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Speaker 4: he wants. It was a great job by our group

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Speaker 4: as a whole bringing it to life. And I think

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Speaker 4: you see on all four of those interceptions the consistent

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Speaker 4: team is there's a push in the pocket, there's somebody

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Speaker 4: flashing across his face, and there's guys connected and in

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Speaker 4: their spots on the back end.

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Speaker 1: And I thought Mark schlaer With had a point is

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Speaker 1: like Sam, this is a really good team. Just hold

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Speaker 1: the ball, eat it, dirt it take a sack. But

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Speaker 1: it is interesting because Andrew Luck, I thought was the

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Speaker 1: best quarterback prospect I'd ever seen since John Elway. And

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Speaker 1: to give you an example how good Luck was. I

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Speaker 1: don't think people understand this. He went eleven and five,

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Speaker 1: eleven and five, eleven and five, and two of those

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Speaker 1: years the Colts arguably had the worst roster in the league.

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Speaker 1: As I love Josh Allen, he wasn't that good his

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Speaker 1: first two years, and he had a team that had

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Speaker 1: made the playoffs. He had a better roster Andrew Luck

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Speaker 1: is Tom Brady could not have won and he's the

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Speaker 1: best quarterback ever. Joe Montana could not have won. Peyton

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Speaker 1: Mannon could not have won as many games as Andrew

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Speaker 1: Luck did his first two years with that roster. They

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Speaker 1: had one other player that was a Pro Bowl level player.

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Speaker 1: I was a cornerback I believe may have been a

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Speaker 1: special teamer. They just didn't have a lot of talent.

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Speaker 1: So my takeaway is that what Andrew Luck did is

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Speaker 1: all time unique. And then he got you know, he

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Speaker 1: just got lung got, I believe, punctured, and it was

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Speaker 1: just really sad. But if you go back and look

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Speaker 1: at Luck, he's an all time talent that got knocked

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Speaker 1: out of the game physically. And yet if you look

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Speaker 1: at Sam's numbers, including the Toxic Jets, a lot of

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Speaker 1: them are the same. They both had nine three plus

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Speaker 1: interception games. By the way, the worst game Luck ever

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Speaker 1: played four interceptions against Belichick. Well Sam had to play

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Speaker 1: Belichick twice a year, so Luck didn't and the worst

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Speaker 1: game Sam's had, He's had two really really bad games

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Speaker 1: in terms of interceptions. One was this past week and

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Speaker 1: one was last year in the playoffs against the Rams

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Speaker 1: where they had multiple picks. So you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: and again, I think Luck's better. I'm not disputing that.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of great quarterbacks, Happy birthday to Caleb Williams. He

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Speaker 1: is officially twenty four years old today. Happy birthday. It's

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Speaker 1: the great Caleb Williams. Come on, alhard, what do we

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Speaker 1: do comparing Darnald to Andrew Luck? And birthday shouted?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't think this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Darnold's as good as Andrew Luck.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but somebody in an airport walking by the screen

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Speaker 7: is going to see that and be like, wait, what's

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Speaker 7: happening now. I mean, you made a decent argument, but

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Speaker 7: like if this went to court, you would just you

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Speaker 7: would lose the case for sure.

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Speaker 1: No brainer, it's not even plus. I mean, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: am acknowledging. I mean, USC before Donald got there, was

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Speaker 1: not very good, and he got them to win a

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Speaker 1: Rose Bull over Penn State. I remember that game. He

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Speaker 1: kind of carried him and then he just went to

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Speaker 1: a place where nobody can win. So I loved him

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Speaker 1: on the Jets. I was rooting for him.

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Speaker 7: When the remember the Giants passed on him. They were like,

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Speaker 7: we'll take a running back. I was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 7: I'm doing cartwheel Donald.

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Speaker 1: He went twenty one and six at usc USC the

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Speaker 1: year before and the year after Donald thirteen and thirteen.

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Speaker 1: They did not have I mean, they did not have

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Speaker 1: a lot of talent. I think he played with Michael.

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Speaker 1: Did he play with Michael Pittman? I think he did.

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Speaker 1: I think might Michael Pickett may have been a freshman

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Speaker 1: or something. I could be wrong on that. So one

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Speaker 1: of the issues with Donald.

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Speaker 7: Then again we're picking knits here, but he hasn't faced

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Speaker 7: any good defenses this year, Colin, and then he goes

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Speaker 7: up against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask those four picks, and the Rams owned

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Speaker 1: him last year. Let me an he was in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Let me name five great defenses in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Right now, Okay, well that depending on what metric you want.

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Speaker 7: The Denver Broncos defense is great. The Houston Texans defense

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Speaker 7: is great. Didn't play great last week, but they're great.

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Speaker 7: The Philadelphia Eagles defense is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: Those are three.

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Speaker 7: For sure, Seattle has one of the best defenses in

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Speaker 7: the league. I think you would agree with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: the fifth one is tricky. Off the top of my head,

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Speaker 7: I would say the Rams are up there in most categories.

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams are really good. Yeah, they would

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Speaker 1: they would probably be. And I think the Eagles are

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Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, and I think Denver's really good. I

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Speaker 1: think Sam beat did not Yeah, Sam beat. He beat

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Speaker 1: the Texans earlier this year. Sam beat that defense at

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Speaker 1: twenty seven to nineteen. Yeah, you see that right there, Yeah, right, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Pittman was a freshman and a sophomore with Sam, so

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Speaker 1: they that was his best teammate, Michael Pittman. But again,

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Speaker 1: I'm not Luck's better. I'm not. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: Luck is better, but I'm saying Sam his recklessness. The

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Speaker 1: comps on picks our luck. So here's my thing.

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Speaker 7: If they don't win the division, Colin, they will have

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Speaker 7: to go on the road in the first round. Right now,

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Speaker 7: it might be Tampa Bay, which I think, you know,

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Speaker 7: not inclement weather there. But if he's got to go

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Speaker 7: outdoors to Green Bay, god forbid Chicago, I don't like

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Speaker 7: his chances.

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Speaker 1: Now, the defense will keep him in it.

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Speaker 7: But outdoors Sam Darnold Colin'.

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Speaker 1: I never worry about the outdoors with Sam. The outdoors,

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Speaker 1: I worry about Jared Goff or Tua. If it's cold

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Speaker 1: and winning, yeah, I don't worry about Sam and cold weather.

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Speaker 1: What I worry about Sam is they lead a game

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Speaker 1: and Sam gets sped up. Like McVeigh said, Sam and

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Speaker 1: this was a Luck thing. I also think Andrew, Luck

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Speaker 1: and Sam are so confident in their abilities. They're not

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Speaker 1: deterred after a pick or two. They don't care. Brady

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Speaker 1: had that ability. Brady threw pick sixes and Super bowls.

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Speaker 1: Brady did not care. The ultimate confidence is you throw

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Speaker 1: a pick six, you throw a bad pick or two,

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Speaker 1: and you don't care. So that's the confidence, almost illusion,

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Speaker 1: that a great quarterback needs. One of the criticisms I've

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Speaker 1: had for years of Aaron Rodgers if he throws a

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Speaker 1: second pick in the game, he shuts it down so

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Speaker 1: mentally he starts protecting his passer rating. You can see

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Speaker 1: the body language he deteriorates. He had one of those

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Speaker 1: games years ago. It may have been against Brady and Tampa.

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Speaker 1: It was windy, he had a couple bad picks. He

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Speaker 1: just kind of like Felty shut down and was protecting

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Speaker 1: his passer rating. Donald doesn't do it. Peyton didn't do that,

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Speaker 1: Brady didn't do that, Luck didn't do that. They don't care.

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Speaker 1: They have inner scoreboard confidence. They're gonna let it rip.

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Speaker 1: And I respect that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. One of the problems with Darnald in the three

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Speaker 7: games against the Rams too, and I know two were

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Speaker 7: with in Minnesota last year. If he falls behind, he

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Speaker 7: don't know that they Yeah, he's presses, he's overthinking it.

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Speaker 1: That's a tough spot put up. Put up the NFC

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Speaker 1: playoff picture, though, I'm telling you you do not want

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Speaker 1: to play Seattle in the playoffs. They'll probably be an underdog.

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Speaker 1: Remember what is Seattle on the road bizarrely great? Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine being the Rams or the Bears or the

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Speaker 1: Buck and hosting Seattle and Seattle is the best road

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Speaker 1: team in the in the league. If tomorrow, if the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks play the Bears and the Bucks, I take Seattle

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Speaker 1: on the road.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would. I would probably agree. Let me check

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Speaker 7: the Seahawks schedule. The Eagles are gonna win the NFC

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Speaker 7: barring some kind of major injury. If you're a schedule

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Speaker 7: lined the if you to Washington twice.

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself this. If you're the Eagles and you look

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Speaker 1: at the Seahawks, Packers, Niners, Detroit, and you could ask

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia who they don't want to play of those four?

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna play division winners. You're gonna play either Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, San Francisco, Carolina, Dallas or Detroit. I guarantee

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Speaker 1: you Philadelphia would say we have no interest in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay, Green Bay is don't scoff at their defense.

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Speaker 1: They have no identity at all. I mean, you already

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Speaker 1: beat there. Coach Green Bay or Seattle lafloor. Obviously, McDonald's great,

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Speaker 1: But come on, if la floor, come on the floor

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Speaker 1: has been great. You asked me a question and gave

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Speaker 1: me the answer, I'd take McDonald over the floor. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: based on one season that McDonald's been pretty good. I

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Speaker 1: needed one season with Sean McVay. I knew he was

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Speaker 1: better than ninety percent of the league. Fine quarterback, Donald

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Speaker 1: or love Coin flip? Oh my god, are you're clearly

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Speaker 1: all in on Seattle run game? Seattle athletic roles, Josh's healthy?

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Speaker 3: Wait?

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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, wait, what's happening here? Hold on, you think

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Speaker 1: Seattle's better right now than green Bay? If they played absolutely? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Oh damn okay.

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Speaker 7: I was not anticipating that, So you give them the

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Speaker 7: edged coach? Quarterback is a toss up.

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Speaker 1: Run game and roster and by the way, number one

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Speaker 1: weapon Seattle run game Seattle.

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Speaker 7: Seattle does have the best offensive skill position player weapon. Yes,

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Speaker 7: I would agree JSN is number one. Huh okay, Oh my,

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Speaker 7: that's a bold take. Could you tell our social staff

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Speaker 7: to put that online? Let's see people agree with you

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Speaker 7: or no.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying Seattle has an absolute identity. What is green Bay? Offensively?

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Speaker 1: Their coach doesn't know Seattle. You see, you know what

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Speaker 1: Seattle is. Do you tell me how many teams can

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Speaker 1: throw four picks against the Rams and be kicking a

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Speaker 1: winning field goal? How many not green Bay