00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no, guest, your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, here we are. It's I said, no gifts. I'm Brigard Winecker. You know, it feels like a real low energy, you know, sad intro. I don't know where that that came from. Everything's fine, nothing's going on. You know, my screen time is down fourteen percent. I just found that out, so that's huge news. I don't know where that time was spent. I suppose my time staring into space is probably tripled. But you know that's These are the things we hold on to right now. I hope you're doing okay. I hope you're having a nice time. And I think you're about to have a nice time because the guest today is someone I find extremely funny, just a wonderful, wonderful presence, Carl Tart, Carl, welcome to I said no gifts. Oh man, thank you for having me. 00:01:43 Speaker 3: You know you mentioned that screen time thing I was looking at. I was using my screen time earlier today looking at Instagram in the bed as I shouldn't do, and one of my friends posted her screen time was like averaging three hours and fifty three minutes last week. 00:02:00 Speaker 4: I said, who do you think you are? 00:02:02 Speaker 2: You do nothing? 00:02:03 Speaker 4: That's nothing. 00:02:04 Speaker 3: She and and she's a person who tweets a lot and who very hot take Twitter person right the time, the type that I really don't like. We definitely I had to have a discussion with her about like, hey, this is changing a real way I feel about you the way you tweet. 00:02:18 Speaker 2: Really, she's she's someone who just has a huge opinion on every single subject. 00:02:24 Speaker 3: Yes, and uh, we'll tweet things just to make she does things to make people mad for sure. 00:02:30 Speaker 2: Oh right, right. I don't know where someone's coming from with that or whether they get the energy. I don't want the return, no, of course not. I don't want to deal with it. I don't want to sow those seeds and then I have to harvest all of them. And then how does she do that with three hours? 00:02:47 Speaker 4: Exactly? 00:02:47 Speaker 3: She must have she must have hit a hit a rock bottom of something like I don't I don't want to do that. I don't want to deal with people who are being nice to me. I don't want to deal with online people. 00:02:57 Speaker 2: I just don't want to interact in any way. 00:03:00 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if we in person, if you see me walking down the street and you say, hey man, I love your work. Man, it's all love, daddy. But when people talk to me online, I'm like, oh, I don't know, but I can't see you in Yeah. 00:03:13 Speaker 2: Well, the thing with the three hours screen time in a week, to me, that just says this person has a burner phone. 00:03:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all that is. 00:03:21 Speaker 2: She's using her other phone. Is like, your screen time was seventy eight hours this week, and she's been interacting with all these people online because I mean, I can't remember what my screen time was this week, but it's got to be nine hours a day. 00:03:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, mine is usually about that too. 00:03:37 Speaker 2: Like what else am I? I? Truly there's nothing else. We've really reached a point in all of this where I'm like, there's nothing for me to do all day. 00:03:46 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, When you get into bed at night, do you still check your phone? 00:03:52 Speaker 4: As if I don't know what time you go to sleep? 00:03:53 Speaker 2: Are you late? 00:03:54 Speaker 4: I'm a late sleeper? 00:03:56 Speaker 2: You go to bed late. You mean I go to bed late, Like what's late for you? 00:04:00 Speaker 3: Like last night, I didn't do I just played video games until about one point thirty in the morning, and then I said, you know what, let me turn this off and let me go get into bed. Okay, And I still was like looking at my phone waiting for a DM, waiting for a text. 00:04:13 Speaker 2: I'm like, nobody's up. What am I put the phone away, put it in the other room. Was there a specific person you were hoping a DM would come from? Or is it just like, literally, anyone reach out to. 00:04:23 Speaker 3: Me, Literally, anyone reach out to me, someone in my life care about me. Give me a reason to be looking at this phone right now because I shouldn't be. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: I'm I've gotten better at once I get into bed not looking at my phone. You know, there's the last desperate look at the phone before I get into bed, and then I hook it up to charge and put it face down. And I've gotten pretty good at like resisting the urge too, because nothing. I mean, I've been looking at it all day and at night time there's nothing new is going to happen. I've I've finally admitted to myself the Internet is exactly what it was thirty seconds ago. It's not going to improve my life or and if anything, I'm going to see something that makes me. 00:05:07 Speaker 4: Mad exactly exactly. 00:05:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, in the morning, I still haven't you know, I'm still looking at it almost immediately, just to get my day off to a terrible start. But you know, there's a lot of like going through junk email and having to delete all of that. That's what happens for me in the morning. But you're up till one thirty. I go to bed at like eleven o'clock now, I mean it's like it's creeping down if anything, like, just get me to bed. There's nothing going on. 00:05:35 Speaker 3: Yeah that I stay up pretty late just because I'm about to make an excuse that that's nonsense. 00:05:41 Speaker 2: I don't. 00:05:41 Speaker 4: I don't have an excuse. 00:05:42 Speaker 3: I stay up because sometimes I'm tired and I should probably just go like relax, and yet I'm like, nah, for some reason, I gotta stay up, and I gotta play one more game of two K and I don't even like it that much. 00:05:55 Speaker 2: This is NBA two K. NBA two K Is that all you're playing? 00:05:58 Speaker 3: No, I'll play need for Speed Heat. 00:06:02 Speaker 2: Oh sure, I just recently started playing that. 00:06:04 Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, yeah, that's fun. 00:06:08 Speaker 3: But I won't even like other than that, I'm not even like such a huge gamer like you know Iffy. 00:06:14 Speaker 2: No, I know of Iffy, but I've never met Okay. 00:06:16 Speaker 3: If he can sit and play all day, like never take his face away from the computer screen or the video game screen, I can't do that. I'll get into a mode where I'm like, Okay, tonight's video game night. But mostly other than that, I've been really getting into YouTube, and I've been watching people's live streams on YouTube. 00:06:33 Speaker 2: This is how you become radicalized. Exactly. 00:06:36 Speaker 3: I'm making sure it's all stuff that I agree with. It's all stuff in my bubble. 00:06:40 Speaker 2: Right, Well that's what everyone thinks, Carl. But then the algorithm is like, well here's somebody who has a slightly different take. You're clicking on it. In six months from now, you're bombing a federal facility. 00:06:52 Speaker 3: Exactly, I'm in the Capitol, I'm bombing a Baja Fresh. 00:07:00 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think YouTube for me. I still I feel like there's probably stuff for me to watch on it, but I feel so old. I'm like, the only time I ever use YouTube, I actually I can't point to any reason I use YouTube. I'd be like, maybe I'll go look at a music video, but that's not true. When am I watching music videos on you. 00:07:19 Speaker 3: I see I will I'll sit there, I'll check out the latest, the latest tunes. 00:07:23 Speaker 2: Have you seen any good music videos recently? 00:07:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, some weird ones that justin Bieber Yummy is always a hit. I like that, and I'm kind of going these are older than but they're still kind of in the rotation because they'll pop up in my like, you know, no, just keep playing when I'm not paying attention, when I'm on my phone using my screen time and the Arizona Service rock saying, that'll pop up. 00:07:48 Speaker 2: I like that visual. Oh I don't know this. 00:07:51 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you should check that one out. That one's a fun one. 00:07:53 Speaker 2: I miss a good music video. I you know, I feel like they've kind of gone by the wayside, but some people are still making music videos. 00:08:02 Speaker 3: One thing about being in a YouTube head right now is showing like a lot of artists are just coming out with visuals, like they're not spending the money on music videos anymore. They'll just like do like this. This dude Duckworth has a song where it's just him. It's just a loop of him kind of flirting with this girl right like they're on roller skates and he just loops every fifteen twenty seconds. But the song plays out through the whole thing and the lyrics come up at the bottom. And this has been out for months, and I'm like, Okay, they should have made a video right now, Like I understand its COVID times, but people aren't really paying attention to that. 00:08:37 Speaker 2: Wait, so he like kind of made like a fifteen second music video of him on roller skates. Yep, yeah, I mean, once you get the roller skates on, just shoot for three minutes exactly. 00:08:46 Speaker 3: It's a three and a half minute song. Just shoot the whole thing, as simple as that. 00:08:50 Speaker 2: They must have had the opportunity to shoot for three minutes. I don't understand quite what's happening. I guess you know, they had the fifteen second budget and you just go for it to Oh that's interesting. 00:09:02 Speaker 4: My thing is is retro commercials too. 00:09:05 Speaker 2: Wait what type of commercials? 00:09:06 Speaker 4: Retro? 00:09:07 Speaker 2: Oh, retro? You go back and watch retro commercials. 00:09:09 Speaker 4: I go back and watch retro commercials. 00:09:11 Speaker 3: I'm feeling like I'm fascinated by the eighties right, And so I like to go and look at commercials from channels like Channel thirteen here in La, KCOP right, which was upn when I was growing up here, or KTLA. So the more local channels, not the more national like NBC, ABC CB, but like Fox eleven Metro Media what it was called when I was growing up. You go back and you look at a commercial like the commercial block from February sixteen, nineteen eighty five, on that channel, and you just get to see LA that you missed, like I never saw them. 00:09:51 Speaker 2: Oh, I bet that's incredible. Yeah, And it's like like basically local business commercials like window coverings or exactly. 00:10:00 Speaker 4: They're like in your neighborhood. 00:10:01 Speaker 2: Oh, I've got to give that a shot. I mean, I should do that for Salt Lake or something. Have you seen any particularly interesting commercials recently, you know. 00:10:11 Speaker 3: The ones that interest me about the old school LA. So I moved here in nineteen ninety eight and there was no There's these these grocery stores that had already been gone from LA at this point, like Alpha Beta, and I had never heard of these stores coming from the South and come to LA. So when I got here, it was like lucky and Ralphs and Alberson's Vonds. You know, we still see Lucky's gone now. But when I see the commercials for these stores and and I'm like, oh wow, like and then I go and I'll go down the rabbit hole where I go and look on Pinterest to see what the location was, and I'm like, wait a minute, now, that's a Halloween superstore right around the corner. 00:10:52 Speaker 2: Like, well, every one of those was a Halloween super Yeah. 00:10:56 Speaker 3: So it's cool to see that. It's cool to see that type of stuff. I don't know, I'm weird for liking it, But. 00:11:01 Speaker 2: No, I think that that's a perfectly normal thing. I'm so curious about. I mean, one thing, maybe you could have answered this question for me, I do you know the seers on I believe it's on Santa Monica in Hollywood that's now shut down, and it's just this giant, shuddered building. 00:11:18 Speaker 4: Santa Monica and Western basically like St. 00:11:20 Speaker 2: Andrew's right, was that open when you were here? I mean, when it's been closed that long. 00:11:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been it's been closed for a long time. 00:11:28 Speaker 2: I need to know what's happening inside that building. I'm in contact the mayor somebody get me in there. 00:11:33 Speaker 4: I would like to see. I would when you do, I would like to know as well. 00:11:36 Speaker 2: I'm truly desperate. I mean, if it's been closed that long, it truly it looks like a fortress. M hm. 00:11:43 Speaker 3: And that that that type of stuff interests me too, especially when it sticks an people say LA didn't have any culture, and you know, stuff a. 00:11:49 Speaker 4: Lot of culture around here, and then you'll drive by places. 00:11:52 Speaker 3: My big thing is the old theaters that are now all like LATINX churches right right, and what they used to be. So there's this webs I called Cinema Treasures where you can go and look at the name of the theater and there will be just like, oh, this theater opened in nineteen twenty eight. 00:12:10 Speaker 2: This was the first production that they showed this. 00:12:12 Speaker 3: Here's a picture from the premiere of Gone with the Wind that they had. And then in nineteen sixties it turned into a porno theater, and then in the nineteen eighties it turned into a church, and then in nineteen nineties it turned into a nightclub, and now it's a church again. I guess used like the trajectory of all these theaters. 00:12:27 Speaker 2: That's fascinating. Yeah. I used to live down in Mid City and there was a former theater that turned into a church and they had like out in front of it like a Hollywood star, but on the star it said Jesus, which is just this real confusing mix of religion and Hollywood, which just who knows what's happening there? Well, I hate to veer away from this. This podcast is obviously called I said no Gifts, and you agreed to be on it a few weeks ago, and I was just thrilled, Carl is gonna be on. We're going to just have a nice chat and move on with our lives. And then a couple of weeks after you had agreed, something arrived on my doorstep and I thought I didn't order anything. Where could this have come from? I looked at it. I opened it up and there was a little note inside that it said it was from you and Carl. I have to ask, is is this a gift for me? 00:13:27 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a gift for you. I'm sorry I disobeyed. 00:13:30 Speaker 2: So it's now wrapped in this kind of beautiful green wrapping paper which is so so pretty. Should I open it the rest of the way? 00:13:39 Speaker 4: Please do. 00:13:44 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna open this up and we'll see what's happening in here. Okay, oh I don't even have it fully open, so we're gonna have to use my strength. 00:13:58 Speaker 3: It was like an unboxing on YouTube. Tell me that an unboxed products to blow things up. 00:14:03 Speaker 2: You're an unboxing freak, I've heard. Let's see. Thanks for having me on the show from Carl Tart. Okay, we're opening. We're opening. It's now in another box. This is a nice little brown box, so we'll just keep Oh no, this is oh so now it's already So what's happened is the surprise has been slightly ruined. But I'm not gonna because there's a little sticker on the outside that told me what it is. Oh no, but it's the complete series of Martin on DVD. Yes, this is incredible, the incomplete. I mean that's five seasons of television and this is a show when they were making what twenty five episodes of season or something? 00:14:46 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they were going big. 00:14:48 Speaker 3: I don't know if those have twenty five each season, they might only be like thirteen or so. 00:14:52 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just so telling. I mean, I'm gonna keep opening here and we'll see what's happening. I'm using my teeth, tim teeth is Yeah, I'm essentially a rodent at this point. Now tell me. I mean, full disclosure. I grew up in the whitest household of all time and have never seen an episode of Martin, but people rave about it. It's the best, It's the best, it's the it is. I remember I was saying, I was I was very fascinated with the eighties, right, Martin is a real view into nineties culture. How so just the colors, the attitudes, the actions to close the subject matters. The era that was multicam sitcoms when they were actually watchable. Right. Have you seen the entire series? Oh? 00:15:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, multiple times? 00:15:45 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see here me, I'm trying to see how many. It doesn't tell you how many episodes, so you're really just in. Do you feel like it's aged? Well, my thing, like, I haven't seen that many multicam sitcoms I've seen, Like I mean, oh, I mean my family watched Home Improvement. 00:16:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched it. 00:16:04 Speaker 2: And then I wasn't allowed to watch essentially anything else, so I have it's like nineties sitcoms are a huge blind spot for me. I mean, I've seen most of Seinfeld at this point. I've seen news Radio and that's about it. I mean, like, we'll go back and watch Golden Girls, my boyfriend and I. But otherwise, like I don't even know where to begin. 00:16:25 Speaker 3: Golden Girls are so good. The joke always goes, I mean is amazing. I'll never be as good of a joke writer as that writer's room on Golden Girl. 00:16:33 Speaker 2: It's wild. And to think that they were doing that truly for like twenty five episodes a season or whatever. It is really like as far as joke writing goes, I imagine Martin's up there too because people rave about it. 00:16:47 Speaker 3: Yeah, So what Martin, what I wanted you to see with Martin was, I don't know if you've seen the Bad Boys movies or not. 00:16:55 Speaker 2: I have not seen the Bad Boys movies any anything that has to do with action. I you know, it's a weak cultural point for me. Is sorry, if somebody shooting a gun or driving a car in a fast way, I probably couldn't tell you that much about it. 00:17:12 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get you, Well, Martin, I wanted you to see this because I wanted you to enjoy the physical comedy the verbal. 00:17:21 Speaker 4: Comedy that is Martin Launce. He was a tour divorce. 00:17:24 Speaker 3: He really was just the complete performer and every episode he brought it. 00:17:30 Speaker 4: And also you got to see the change. 00:17:32 Speaker 3: He went through a lot of major changes in his life towards the end of the series, and you kind of get to see those two like. 00:17:37 Speaker 2: What changes in his life were happening? 00:17:39 Speaker 3: He was going through drugs and bipolar disorder and running down venture a boulevard with a gun and oh. 00:17:46 Speaker 2: Of course I forgot that happened. 00:17:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you know, he had a big blowout with Tisha Campbell, who plays his girlfriend's slash wife on the show. So at the end the last few episodes of the season, they literally were not in any scenes together because they was pending litigation. Oh my god, and so every scene would be like, oh, Martin leaves and then Tisha walks in and goes babe, and you know, like wow. 00:18:11 Speaker 2: Do you feel like the quality suffers in the later seasons because of these things or is it just more interesting? 00:18:17 Speaker 4: It's it's both. The quality definitely suffers. 00:18:20 Speaker 3: But as I continue to watch and watching, I go, wow, how did they make this happen? 00:18:23 Speaker 2: How do they pull this Wow. On a multicamp. That's wild because you're basically staging a play and so to have people not sharing the stage at any point is wild. Yeah, so they were just full, Like how would they explain why they weren't in the same room together. 00:18:41 Speaker 3: It just ran like, oh, she's out of town. Oh now he's at the he's at this place, and he has to call home and they're on the phone. He walks out the door as she comes out of the bedroom, or he walks into the bedroom as she walks in the door. Like it was just but this is all like that fifth season Wow. And when they ended it there was still bittersweet and there were still a lot of funny moments in that fifth season two. 00:19:07 Speaker 2: That's a I feel like that's an era which is far different than it is now, where it's like contracts and money were so much more important that they were like, well, we're still doing the show. It doesn't matter. We will run this thing straight into the ground, whereas like right now, if even the slightest problem goes, they cancel the entire production, or like we can't do the show anymore. But this they're just they're not sharing any scene. That's wild. 00:19:32 Speaker 3: But those first few seasons are just Martin masterfully just taking the most mundane moments and turning them into huge production. But yeah, I wanted you to see this. I wanted you to see the I wanted you to see Martin's character work. I wanted you to see him doing just the most silly things. He was truly my biggest inspiration. I try to do everything like Martin did. 00:19:56 Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing, I've got I should have. I mean, I never look at the gift before the podcast. I should have opened this and watched it. 00:20:04 Speaker 4: I'm glad you didn't. I want you to report back. 00:20:07 Speaker 2: Should I go episode by episode? I mean, do you feel like so many pilots are bad? Do you feel like this is one where I should start with the pilot or start with like season two, episode nine? And it's interesting, I think because you don't. You don't. 00:20:22 Speaker 4: It's not like you don't. 00:20:23 Speaker 2: Need to see the serialized like Martin show. It's not really doubt. I think it becomes the King of wester Ros or something. 00:20:30 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:20:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, when you, when you, when you turn it on, when you, when you, when you pop in the first DVD, go and make yourself a Bolgne's and just kind of be checking in and watching and catching a little bits and while you're sitting on your couch and board, like you and your boyfriend just sitting there chilling, like just turn this on and just kind of like have it like you know there come yeah, yeah, comfort and you can because that's how I watch it now, Like they play on BET and like today Today's Sunday lazy. Uh there is football on today, sos'mna be watching that. But like if there wasn't, if it was like that that weird part of sports season where the only sport that's playing is like golf in tennis, and I'm not. 00:21:13 Speaker 4: Trying to watch any of that. 00:21:14 Speaker 3: And then I'm flipping through the guide and I see, oh, there's a Martin Marathon on BT right now, just turn into that and now I got something to do with while I'm cleaning the house or fiddling around on the computer or you know whatever. 00:21:25 Speaker 2: No, speaking of Boligner's, are you someone who cooks a lot? I feel like occasionally on Instagram, I see you cooking. 00:21:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like to cook, all right? 00:21:33 Speaker 2: Like do you cook every day or is it like a special occasion sort of thing. 00:21:37 Speaker 3: I don't cook every day, but I it's not a special case. 00:21:42 Speaker 2: It's in the middle. 00:21:42 Speaker 3: So I will if I'm trying to eat healthy, if I'm not trying to just go to McDonald's because it's right up the street, I will go to Trader Joe's. And I look at the line because I'm like all the grocery stories, Trader Joe's is still like, you know, we don't have that much space, so all y'all can't be up in here right breathing and things. But so if the line's not long, if it's like, oh, and there's a parking spot, I drive a big old truck. So if there's a parking spot outside that I don't have to put into the parking lot right and I can park on the street right there, right in front, and there's no line. 00:22:16 Speaker 2: I'm running there. 00:22:17 Speaker 4: And I'm grabbing something to cook for the night. 00:22:19 Speaker 2: So based on the fact that you going into the grocery store is almost an entirely random circumstance. You can't have a grocery list. You just go in there and just decide what you're going to cook for the night. 00:22:30 Speaker 3: I do that, and then I'll get other things that I know I'm gonna want, But the way I go to grocery stores is different. So if it's dinner for the night or if I need if I want to load up on freezing food, I'll go to Trade of Joe's, right, But if I need to make grocery like go and get fruits and veggies and milk and cheese and butter and eggs, I'll go to the rafts up the street something like that. 00:22:53 Speaker 2: Where you can get a little more specific. Yes, what are you cooking? Like, what's your ideal cooking? 00:23:00 Speaker 4: My ideal cooking? 00:23:02 Speaker 3: Me and the Fellas have really gotten into steak making, sure, and so we if he found this website called crowd cow crowd cow. 00:23:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, crowd cows. 00:23:12 Speaker 3: It's like crowdsourced meat or something like that, or like farm raised. 00:23:16 Speaker 2: Uh, it's good stuff. It's good, like because they have wag you from Japan. 00:23:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so we'll grab some of those steaks every now and then for a special occasion or something. 00:23:26 Speaker 2: And Lamar likes to do omaha steaks. Lamar is a cooking machine, Yeah, ain't Lamar. 00:23:32 Speaker 3: The thing about Lamar was Lamar didn't cook shit before his quarantine. He was not a cook he was not a cook, and every time you went to Lamar house, he would have some sort of meal ordered from some other place. 00:23:45 Speaker 4: And he's been cooking. 00:23:46 Speaker 3: He's been and now he's doing braids, short red, he's got the crock pot. He's doing all this stuff. So it's good to see that. But uh, yeah, we when we cook, we make these big meals. But I'm also a person who likes to cook. I kind of live by this, like I can eat whatever I want to eat if I cook it. 00:24:06 Speaker 2: Oh that's a good rule. 00:24:08 Speaker 3: Actually, So if I want burging fries, I gotta make it at home. 00:24:12 Speaker 2: You have to put the work in. 00:24:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't go to the McDonald's because that's bad for you. But if I want, if I want to burging fries, I'm gonna like season pounds in, season out the patties and and but I like to smash burger taste. 00:24:25 Speaker 2: Now that the thing. Yeah, that's the trend in hamburgers, just having a very thin hamburger. 00:24:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that. My mom bought me an air fryer. 00:24:34 Speaker 3: She also bought me a crock pot, so I'll make a little I made some Frido piet the other night. 00:24:37 Speaker 2: Oh, Freedo pie is delicious. 00:24:40 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:24:40 Speaker 2: Wait, and are you making French fries at home? Mm hmm, Carl, are they good? Yeah? How are you doing this? Either? 00:24:48 Speaker 3: Either I just use a bag and just put them in the air fryer or to or like put them on the on some oil on the stove. 00:24:54 Speaker 4: Or I'd like to cut up the potatoes. 00:24:57 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's simple because now I live alone, I can buy all these little tools that I didn't have. As you know, I buy the potato cuttering. 00:25:04 Speaker 2: Do you have the potato cutter? Yeah? You basically run a restaurant. You're making French fries not not super off. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna front. 00:25:16 Speaker 3: I don't make them very often, and if I do, make them more often than if, they'll be the ones from the bag, just some orright a crinkle. 00:25:23 Speaker 2: Cut right, I mean most restaurants do that. Yeah. So, I mean, God bless you for occasionally making real French fries. That's amazing. 00:25:31 Speaker 3: But if I if I'm making real potatoes there, I'm probably gonna do like some you know, cut them cut them up, season them right, like either mashed like sour cream, butter stuff like that, or you know, just outible like time and Rosemary is incredible. 00:25:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like, I like that type of stuff you cooking. 00:25:52 Speaker 2: I'm barely I you know, I definitely more than before. I mean literally, before COVID, I had probably cooked a total of four meals, and so I am making more, although I've gotten very lazy again, where I'm just like, I will make guacamole at the beginning of the week, and I have tortillas, and then I will eat breakfast tacos for five out of seven days that week for dinner. Listen, I'm just I don't have the energy or like, nothing seems fun anymore. 00:26:21 Speaker 3: There ain't nothing wrong with that. Though, there ain't nothing wrong with that. I have a problem, and I'm going to be canceled for this. I will make things. My cousin thinks this is the funniest thing because I will have the urg to just like I like to bake. That's been a real thing that I've been doing. 00:26:38 Speaker 2: What are you baking? 00:26:39 Speaker 3: The most recent thing that I've baked myself has been. 00:26:44 Speaker 2: A key line pie. Oh my god, frum scratch from. 00:26:47 Speaker 3: I made the grim cracker crust, I made the whipped cream, I did the whole thing, and it was delicious, and my cousin lasts at me. He says, you're gonna bake that pie because I'm not a huge eater. Like, I'm not a person who's gonna bake a whole pie and then just sit with a fork with the pie. I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna have one or two slices of this pie and then it's gonna go bad refrigerator, and then I'm gonna have to throw it out. So I took it to his house. I was like, I'm gonna have half of this and I'm gonna bring you half of it. And the pole turned out good. I stuck my foot in that pie. 00:27:20 Speaker 4: That was good. 00:27:22 Speaker 2: Wait, let's get to the whatever's going to get you canceled. 00:27:25 Speaker 3: Oh then I let food go bad and throw it away. 00:27:28 Speaker 2: See I need we need to get these details. We've got to get people more people canceled. Yeah, that's why you're here. 00:27:34 Speaker 3: I definitely, I definitely do not finish food like I like make like I'll make a rotail dip in the crock pot and are you familiar? No, of course, Okay, so I'll make a rotail. Yeah, But then after like two days of eating rotail dip. I don't want know what damn rotail did. 00:27:49 Speaker 2: No, you have to make so much? Yeah, I mean that's like essentially four church picnics or whatever, you know exactly. It is not for a single person. No. No, my boyfriend will occasionally make cheesecake, and you like, beg me too. I'm like, I don't really care to eat cheesecake and you can't make it. Like, well, you can, but for whatever reason, he refuses to make a smaller one. So he makes some cheesecake. That's like, that's for like four weeks of food. I'm not helping you with that. Why are you making that much cheesecake? Yeah, but I mean to his credit, he will finish it and without bothering me too much. I bake cookies and so I just make cookie dough and it's just in the fridge and I can like portion it out as needed. But you're you're out here making pies or what else are you baking? I make a peach cobbler, So you're making all of these giant they're for crowds. 00:28:43 Speaker 3: So that one was for a crowd. My mom likes that. So we did Christmas and I took that home for Christmas. H in trouble far. She's here, but uh don't want to don't want to get the uh the COVID police on me. 00:28:56 Speaker 2: Well, we're still looking for reasons to cancel. 00:28:58 Speaker 3: I can't yeh yeah, but yeah, I made the peach cobbler. 00:29:04 Speaker 2: I did a bourbon pecan pie. Oh that was fun. 00:29:08 Speaker 3: Baking is definitely it feels like baking is more soothing than just regular cooking. 00:29:12 Speaker 2: That's exactly how I feel. Cooking to me, is deeply stressful, whereas baking, I'm like, I've got this set of instructions. I know if I can just follow these, the end product will probably be good. And it's like there's no like improvising or like there's no room. There's not a ton of room for error or like for me to screw things up. The only way I can screw things up is if I don't read. 00:29:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that'll hurt you. Baking you gotta have or bad oven. I had to learn that when I moved into my apartment. So last Christmas, I gave you my heart, but no. Christmas twenty nineteen, I had some baking mishaps. 00:29:51 Speaker 2: Things weren't done. It was embarrassment. I want details here. What did you screw up? 00:29:57 Speaker 4: The pie wasn't set in the middle. 00:29:59 Speaker 2: No, oh, that's a disaster. 00:30:01 Speaker 4: The peach cobbler was. 00:30:02 Speaker 3: Doe in the middle kind of And I'm like, what is going on? And I kept leaving it in so long that the edges will be burned. And I was like, I can't take this. I can't bring this around the family. They'll I'm already Hollywood kid, They'll make so much fun of me. 00:30:15 Speaker 2: You've got no skills. I've got no skill. 00:30:17 Speaker 3: I'm Hollywood kid, They'll and so I and then I figured out my oven. I kept trying to make this in a garden barefoot contessa yogurt cake. 00:30:26 Speaker 2: Oh. 00:30:27 Speaker 4: And at first I was like, man, this shit is nasty, because in the garden like. 00:30:32 Speaker 2: A good that doesn't necessarily sound like a good cake. I would need to see a picture of yogurt cake. Yeah, I'm gonna say you. I would say your linked to the video. It looked good, and it looked easy. 00:30:43 Speaker 3: It looked like it was a I could just go run to the store and grab a couple ingredients and come out. 00:30:49 Speaker 4: And I was not this cake was not working. 00:30:52 Speaker 3: And I'm trying to figure out, and so I put on Instagram, and of course podcast fans use it as an opportunity to just mercistless merciless will attack me as they do online and they consider it to be support. And so I can't get this to work. And then I finally figured out my oven temp is off. Oh I just moved into this place in September of twenty nineteen, and so brand new oven, brand new stove, and the oven temp is off. 00:31:21 Speaker 2: So I had to get it. So it's the temperature way higher or lower? 00:31:24 Speaker 4: Too low? 00:31:25 Speaker 2: How does that even happen? 00:31:26 Speaker 3: I would preheat to the three point fifty you know the average, the status quo, and when I put when I got the oven thermometer, you look at it, it will be two sixty five. 00:31:37 Speaker 2: It's just room temperature. Yeah. 00:31:39 Speaker 3: I can sit in there for a little bit and get a nice steam. 00:31:45 Speaker 2: So wait, did you try this yogurt cake multiple times? I did? I tried it. Impressive. That's very I mean I think after one failed recipe i'd be like, well, I'm just not trying that again. The fact that you kept trying, I persevere, that's really impressive to me. 00:31:59 Speaker 3: I had to had to because I was like, you're not gonna defeat me. You know how to bake? Yeah, barefoot, I know how to do this. I know how to And she gets on there and she's just like making it look so easy. Don't tell Joffrey. I'm gonna add a little. I'm at a little this, don't tell Joffrey. And I'm like, I'm gonna make this cake and I'm gonna make it good. And then of course when you put like on Instagram, you put on you Instagram story, something is wrong. This is I'm follow And then people go, why are you following the directions? Yes, I'm directions clown. 00:32:29 Speaker 2: Nah. 00:32:29 Speaker 3: I decided to take my own road, Carl. You have to when you're baking a cake, you have to put it in a cake pan. Yeah, yes, no, I'm baking it in my hands. It's just in a cardboard box. Yeah, just fried beyond believe. I put it in a shoe box. 00:32:47 Speaker 2: I put it in a Nike box next to some old apartment on fire. Wait. So like eventually you were just like, well, maybe I should see if the effin's working. Yeah. 00:32:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the That was the best. 00:33:01 Speaker 3: That was the best solution, right, the best solution was check the oven timp. Check the like, it clearly feels like your food is not baking enough. 00:33:14 Speaker 2: It's wet in the middle and just ash on the outside. 00:33:17 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it's hard and wet. And so check the oven timp. Got order in the thermometer, or I went to No, I went to bed, bath and beyond. I went to bed, bathroom beyond, got the oven thermometer, figured it out, figured out what the problem was. 00:33:33 Speaker 4: Ever since then, it's been a snap. 00:33:36 Speaker 2: Did your landlord fix the oven or just replace it? No? 00:33:39 Speaker 4: I didn't tell him. I don't want to bother him with Wait. 00:33:41 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You didn't that's he's my friend. Oh he's taking advantage of you. That's no friend. He's giving a fault to the ovens. I mean, can I talk to him about that? Can I say, like, my oven timp is off, Carl, you're paying this person rent? Huh. That's the one reason you've rent is because the landlord's in charge of all of the nonsense. 00:34:01 Speaker 4: Let me tell you the story of my living situations. 00:34:04 Speaker 2: I need to hear this. 00:34:06 Speaker 4: I was living with. 00:34:06 Speaker 3: Iffy and family, and then we had to move out of that place, and so I was like, you know, it's time to get my own place, and I want a one bedroom apartment. Trying to find an apartment in Los Angeles is impossible, terrible, it is horrible. My friend, my good friend, Siddy Steinberg, says, hey, there's a unit open in my building. Like, and there's a lot of other UCB people who live in this building. I thought that was a good idea at the beginning. The Comedy apartment building. Yeah, the Comedy apartment, the Comedy complex. And the manager is another buddy who is a UCB person, Amy Pohler. 00:34:41 Speaker 4: And so I immediately texted him. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: Is Amy Poehler. Amy Pohler and Jason Sudekas are the manager of this building, And so I immediately text him and I'm like, hey, I heard you got an apartment open. I'm looking for an apartment. Would love to apply. So yeah, come look at it. I can look at it. Say yes, if I can have it, I'll take it. Sure I should have thought of that. While I love living here, I love the location. Everybody's extremely nice. The place is small, there's not enough closet space, the oven is off, and there was. 00:35:09 Speaker 4: A roof leak, which I did have to. 00:35:11 Speaker 3: Eventually, after seven months, I said, hey, I think I need to put in a formal request to get this fixed. 00:35:19 Speaker 2: Your friend is a slum lord. You know he's good. He's a good guy. I promise you. It's because I wasn't telling you stand up for yourself. This is ridiculous. 00:35:28 Speaker 3: I wasn't standing for my because I didn't want to bother if. I didn't want to bother about like small things like I had to make them. 00:35:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's fixed now, it's fixed. 00:35:37 Speaker 2: Now. We got it. 00:35:37 Speaker 3: Done when it rained last week and I was like, it's I think there's gonna be more rain coming over the winter, so we should probably fix this. And he was like, okay, all right, Yeah, you should have told me seven months ago because when I'm when I first moved in, I had to I had so many issues, Like one day I locked myself out and I had to like I was texting him at like two am, like to come open the door. 00:35:57 Speaker 2: Like wow, so you fixed the yourself. I mean, you're you're the the A plus student that every landlord wants to take advantage of. And I've brought you on here to beg you to please ask your landlord to do these things for you. Yeah, I'm doing any When I was renting any little thing, I had them on the phone. I also hated my apartment building, and I thought that they were kind of scumbag. So I was like, you're going to do everything for me. It's a different situation. Oh, but man, I think when you look at an apartment you should be allowed to stay overnight. They should give you like a test run. Because you're there at like three o'clock in the afternoon. You have no idea what the apartment actually has in store. 00:36:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, the lighting is perfect, right, your overcome with the joy of Like I was like, man, I'm gonna have my own apartment in La Like I grew up here. 00:36:53 Speaker 2: I done. Since I've been here, I've only lived with other people. You've made it. 00:36:58 Speaker 3: I stayed at home until I was twenty four, right, and then I immediately moved in with four roommates. Sure, and now I'm like, man, I got my own I got my own place. Like my mom's gonna come over here and see, like I got my own place. 00:37:11 Speaker 2: My son has done it. Yeah, but then she sees the roof leak and the oven is not working, and she's just like my son is a fool. 00:37:20 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got to sleep in it. 00:37:22 Speaker 4: I'm baking cakes and shoe boxes. 00:37:25 Speaker 2: What went wrong? Oh well, I'm glad. If nothing else we've I've been able to just scream at you about taking advantage of the renting situation. 00:37:36 Speaker 4: You're right. 00:37:36 Speaker 2: I feel like it's time to play a game. 00:37:38 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 00:37:39 Speaker 2: We have Gift of a Curse or Gift Master. Okay, which would you like to play? 00:37:45 Speaker 4: Gift or a curse? 00:37:46 Speaker 2: Okay? I need a number between one and ten. 00:37:49 Speaker 4: Let's go six. 00:37:50 Speaker 2: Okay. I have to do some just the lightest of calculating right now, so you can promote something, you can recommend something. You've got the microphone for who knows how long. Just do what you need to do and I'll be right back. 00:38:02 Speaker 4: Okay, sounds good. 00:38:03 Speaker 3: Hey, y'all's your boy, big CT Back at it again for the first time. 00:38:09 Speaker 4: I want to recommend that everybody watched. 00:38:12 Speaker 3: One Night in Miami on Amazon, because I really just enjoyed that movie. You may not like it. I'm not a big movie person, but if I watch movies, it's going to be an autobiography, and that one was like a sort of an autobiography, and it was good. 00:38:27 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it. I liked a lot of the dialogue of it. 00:38:30 Speaker 3: Other than that, you can listen to my podcast The Flagrant Ones on patreon dot com. 00:38:34 Speaker 4: Reach into your deep pockets and give us five dollars a. 00:38:36 Speaker 3: Month to listen to your boys, hey' Davinport, John Clemens, myself, Andy Nice talk about basketball. And there's a bundle deal where you get another podcast where I call my cousin. It's called Call Calls His Cousin. I talk to my cousin to sign on the phone for about thirty minutes and it's just our conversations. 00:38:52 Speaker 4: It's just what we talk about. 00:38:54 Speaker 3: And if you find any of those things interesting, go to patreon dot com slash the Flagrant Ones and you'll be able to find that. Also, rate review, Subscribe to this podcast on whatever podcast platform you listen to this podcast on. Give a rating, give a review, make sure it's five stars, make sure it's positive. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. 00:39:18 Speaker 2: Carl, that's an I mean, what an impressive use of that time. I need it, Okay, I'd feel like you deserve a service award for that. You got some nice promotion in you've got, you know, telling people to review the pod. People need to review podcasts, and in a nice way, I do. I don't understand the notion of somebody going on and I mean, I think you're in a real dark place if you're leaving a real negative review of a podcast. Agreed. 00:39:45 Speaker 3: I accept negative reviews in places where it could genuinely affect somebody, right, I accept negative reviews on Yelp or of course, yeah, things like that, like if you have something negative to say, that's a legitimate like not like the waitress was a bit like not that, like literally like I ate the clams and I was shitting for three weeks straight. 00:40:06 Speaker 2: I am writing this yell preview from the hospital. Yes, yes, that's what I want to see, a negative review. I don't want to see the waitress was waiting Skate to show it. 00:40:14 Speaker 3: I saw the bottom of her butt cheeks, Like, I don't want that. 00:40:18 Speaker 2: That's a good character for a Yell previewer, just the the prude yell perview. 00:40:23 Speaker 3: Yeah, but but if you look at his history, it's always that the. 00:40:28 Speaker 2: Waitress but was a little bit too plump, and it's like. 00:40:31 Speaker 3: Okay, you're not as prude as you. 00:40:35 Speaker 2: You're heard creep. Yeah, I mean unless unless I was listening to a podcast and suddenly they were saying, you know, go out and kill Bridge or Wineger. I'm not gonna rate. I'm not gonna go and give a negative review to the podcast. 00:40:50 Speaker 4: If you don't have anythingnice say, don't say anything at all. 00:40:53 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, here we go. This game is called Gift or a Curse. I'm gonna name three things you have to tell me if there're a gift or a curve, and why there are absolutely correct answers, so you could get zero out of three and then you know your name is tarnish. You've already been canceled twice on this podcast. This could be your third cancelation, so be very careful. Okay, okay, all right. Number one, Gift or a curse. This is This is a listener suggestion and the listener I believe their name is Delayanne delayne d E l A I n E. That feels like a good guess for pronunciation. Yeah, gift or a curse. Kashmir sweaters. Uh, I'm gonna say gift if you live, gift because that's a nice that's a nice sweater. That's that's one of the good ones. 00:41:41 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever had a Kashmir sweater. So I'm gonna say that's I'm gonna say that's a gift because that's a gift. Yeah, because you know, well no, no, oh my god, now see now I'm nervous. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, gift if that person knows your style. 00:42:00 Speaker 2: Right, So okay, Carl, I mean I almost gave away the answer with my just shock because I think Kashmir sweaters are I don't think I know that this is the correct answer. They're a curse, a cashleer sweater. I've never owned one. I never will because that feels like the greatest burden you can possibly add to your closet. It's essentially a pet, like the is a care that thing needs? 00:42:25 Speaker 4: Is the real furry one? 00:42:26 Speaker 2: Right? 00:42:26 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:42:27 Speaker 2: I think it's like furry and like, I think the only way you can wash it is basically, you know, sending it to another planet to air dry or something. Oh yeah, it's you can't put it through the wash. They cost so much money. I mean I also may maybe I don't know. This was a listener's suggestion, so we're really coming from a place of me not having any idea. 00:42:50 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have I don't have ID because I've never had. 00:42:52 Speaker 2: It feels like to me an untouchable dream. And for that alone, that's a curse. I feel like if I were to ever have a Kashmir sweater, that's all I'd be thinking about. I'd just be constant panic is the Kashmir. Okay, Okay. I need a sweater that's a little bit lower, you know, lower maintenance, something that I can dump coffee all over and not freak out. Not that I'm dumping coffee, I mean, do you have do you own any sweaters? I got? 00:43:20 Speaker 4: I got a bunch of sweatshirts. 00:43:22 Speaker 2: Sweatshirts I can get into. That's something you can wash yourself. 00:43:26 Speaker 5: Uh. 00:43:26 Speaker 2: You know, it's like just a big comfortable T shirt. 00:43:30 Speaker 4: Dump coffee on it. 00:43:31 Speaker 2: But you know, my usual dumping coffee on every morning, this sort of thing. I bought a sweater used, not a Kashmir sweater, a wolf sweater a couple of years ago. I was so thrilled about it and immediately put it through the wash and it was like a bad sitcom, like shrunk to like a baby's size. And oh no, I've just been afraid of owning a sweater ever since in Kashmir. Give me a break. 00:43:56 Speaker 4: You got to read the tag. 00:43:57 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, gentlemen, I had to. I had to look up the care what it takes to take care of a cashmere sweater, and you're not wrong. It is very annoying. You have to swirl it around in a tub for thirty seconds, let it soak in warm water for thirty minutes, then drain the dirty water and rinse it with cool, clean water. So this is even worse than I thought it was. So I just thought I would contribute that bit of information. 00:44:19 Speaker 4: That's a curse on a lease. 00:44:20 Speaker 2: I want you to leave that in this People need to hear your voice telling just the fact that you have to swirl something around. You know, I'm not built to swirl sweaters. 00:44:32 Speaker 4: Ain't nobody got time for that. 00:44:33 Speaker 2: But Carl, too bad. You already answered, so you got your zero for one so far. Let's try to turn things around, all right, Okay, gift your a curse, burning sage, burning sage, gift a curse. I'm going to say. 00:44:49 Speaker 3: Curse because my mom used to do when I was a kid, and I absolutely hated it, and I hated the smell of it. But in this apartment that I have here to bring positive vibes, I will be lying if I said I did not burn a. 00:45:02 Speaker 2: Little sage when you first moved in. 00:45:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I still got it here. 00:45:06 Speaker 2: I'll show it to you right now. 00:45:07 Speaker 4: I got a little sage. Oh, they're Sage bundle right here. 00:45:10 Speaker 2: And do you feel like it brought good vibes to the apartment? 00:45:13 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been able to. I got my oven fixed, I got my roof fixed. 00:45:17 Speaker 2: Uh. I feel like you've actually disproven this sage thing because all of the things that you've gotten fixed. The sage should have taken care of that immediately. 00:45:30 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, sage took a long time. So sage is a curse. I'm gonna say sage is a curse. I like to burn a little lavender, burn lavender, or like oil diffusers and things like that. I'm really in the candles right now. I'm in my candle bag right now. Oh a candle bag, yeah, like just buying a ton of candles, right, like good candles. 00:45:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good candles. 00:45:53 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:45:53 Speaker 2: I see, somebody recently gave me some good candles, and they they're incredible, but they've like ruined the crappy candles that I was buying. And so now I once these good candles are gone, I don't know what's gonna happen to my life. I'm not going to go buy good candles. You can. 00:46:09 Speaker 3: There's a place on Santa Mincha Boulevard called Candle Delirium. 00:46:14 Speaker 2: I love that name. I just went up in there and I bought. 00:46:17 Speaker 3: I bought the fragrance, this fragrance called bays Babs. Yeah, b a I s e okay. And that one is made by dip Teek. 00:46:26 Speaker 2: Oh I've heard good things. Yeah. 00:46:28 Speaker 3: And and and that one, uh, that's the one that Drake puts in. He has to have a big bays in every that's in his writer Oh no way that he has to have that a big ass bays in his dressing. 00:46:40 Speaker 2: Room everywhere he goes. So I went and got one of those. How big is a big candle for for someone of Drake's stature? Is he got like a it's basically like an oil barrel size, not that big, but like a. 00:46:51 Speaker 3: So I bought the one that's like I believe mine was like sixty bucks and it's like normal candle size, like okay, and then I think. 00:46:58 Speaker 4: He gets the ninety nine dollars one, which is like this. 00:47:00 Speaker 2: Oh, it's more like a gallon of milk size. 00:47:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, gallon of milk sized candle. 00:47:04 Speaker 2: He's not spending enough time at these venues to burn through that much of a candle. And that right there, my friend, is a flex. That is a flex, but this is the sort of flex that is driving candle prices through the roof. Yeah, Drake's got to stop. He's got to go for a more moderately sized candle. In my opinion, I mean, shit, he made me go buy one. So he's he's he's they're doing it. They're yeah, well, okay, Carl, We've got to get back to the game because I have to reveal that you're wrong again. I can't believe what's happening here, Carl. Of course, say's just a gift. I'm sorry you've got this built in childhood trauma, but you've got to look past that. I think it's most wonderful. Its a little bit outdoorsy, but just nice enough that it's like it's like the most fragrant campfire you could possibly have. Who could ask for more. All right, I'll burn it again after we get off the phone. Here, burn it again, give it a shot. Maybe it's like an acquired smell taste. Is that a thing were like eventually something smells good to you? I can't say for sure. Unfortunately, Carl is just falling on his face time and time. A gift. Let's give it one final shot to at least not have a total nightmare. Okay, this one gift or a curse? Burger King gift gift gift? Okay, let's ask you reasoning fast food is a gift. 00:48:34 Speaker 4: Let me tell you something. 00:48:35 Speaker 3: There is nothing more consistent than the burger King long chicken sandwich is long. 00:48:42 Speaker 2: You just keep taking bites of it, a whopper with cheese. 00:48:45 Speaker 3: Burger King fries underrated, although they did change the recipe recently. 00:48:50 Speaker 4: Burking are underrated. 00:48:53 Speaker 2: What if they're done with their fries recently? What are they now? 00:48:55 Speaker 3: Just a different it's just different. They ain't the same as when we were kids, but they used to rival. People would say, oh. 00:49:00 Speaker 2: Mcdonnald's got the best fries. Bur King had pretty good fries, and you got the flame broil. 00:49:05 Speaker 1: Uh. 00:49:06 Speaker 2: And then the Dutch apple pie, which I lived. 00:49:09 Speaker 3: In Amsterdam for a year and they had never heard of the Dutch apple pie. 00:49:15 Speaker 2: It wasn't saying what is a Dutch apple pie? 00:49:18 Speaker 4: You know it's the it's got the apple cent. 00:49:19 Speaker 3: Instead of a lattice top or just a regular top, it's got the crumble top. 00:49:24 Speaker 2: Oh right, right, right right, So it's like sugar and butter. 00:49:28 Speaker 3: Yes, Burger can't introduce that to us. They got tacos, now ghetto tacos. They got onion rings. They always like to sneak a little onion ring in your fries, you know, even if you don't order, you get an onion ring in there. They got mozzarella sticks, jalapeno Popper's. Burger King is doing it right. Also, the King is a funny character. So I'm gonna go ahead and say gift and if this is if I lose this one, I am. 00:49:54 Speaker 4: I am through. 00:49:55 Speaker 2: Carl prepared a storm out of the podcast. I thinks Burger King is an absolute curse. Oh my gosh, how dare you look? Burger King has got to get it together. This restaurant is trying everything in its power. I think their menu changes every single day. I think they're adding a new product faster than anyone could possibly imagine. Look, I have no problem with fast food. I'll eat it essentially any I will eat garbage. Burger King has got to just decide on a menu and focus on making something. Burger King is probably the last restaurant where I got halfway through a meal and said, I can't eat any more of this. I'm throwing this away. 00:50:35 Speaker 3: That's when you know it's good, when you get I can't even do it because I know I'm doing wrong. 00:50:40 Speaker 2: I know I'm doing wrong. I'm sinning. I'm sinning right now. I was doing the. 00:50:44 Speaker 3: Exact same thing last week because I went to Burger King with my cousin. And hopefully his girlfriend doesn't listened to this, because she's gonna be mad, because he was in the car with me. We would both send up in his car eating bacon Kings and bacon king is the is the new meal that they got that is just a double cheeseburger with mayonnaise and ketchup and loaded with bacon. 00:51:03 Speaker 2: Oh that sounds wonderful. 00:51:05 Speaker 4: I got through half of it and I said, oh, we know we're doing wrong. 00:51:08 Speaker 2: We know we live in foul. 00:51:10 Speaker 3: We live in foul in this car right now, and he was like, Yeah, I'm gonna have to leave my trash in here because I can't take this into the house to throw in front of my girlfriend. 00:51:18 Speaker 2: Oh, he's essentially cheating on a scroll. Girlfriend. Look, you know you just described this wonderful hamburger. It's probably no longer on the Burger King menu. This is what is going on. You cannot count on Burger King or anything. This restaurant's out of control. It feels like the ultimate identity crisis. I mean, you know, times are tough, but and you gotta do what you can do. But I feel like Burger King they must have high employee turnover. It like at the top of the company, because they've got a new direction every four hours. As far as I'm concerned, probably, and this long chicken, I've never had the long chicken. How do you get chicken that long? You gotta pound it out. Something suspicious is going on at for a Hurricade, Carl, You've just failed the game. I don't know what to tell you. It breaks my heart. I thought you would get one out of them. 00:52:11 Speaker 4: Three strikes, canceled, canceled. I'm done for. 00:52:15 Speaker 2: I warned you you would be canceled and you brought it upon yourself. I don't know what to tell you at this point, but we're going to move into the final thing. We have to answer some questions. This is the part of the podcast that's called I said no questions, although maybe it'll become I said no emails. If people want to send in. People have been occasionally sending in stories about bad gifts or whatever. If you want to do that, do it. But right now we're just going to answer some questions that were sent in to I said no gifts at gmail dot com. The first one says, dearis Bridger and disobedient guest. I made a gifting error. My lifelong best friend and I have our birthdays just two days apart. Four years ago. I flew to New York to see her for our birthdays. She got me some lovely gifts. Since I was traveling, I didn't bring any gifts for her with me, figuring my presence would be good enough and I would send her something later. But basically what happened was feelings were hurt. You know, there was a tier oh, a turse goodbye outside of a comedy club. So things went wrong. But since then they've dealt with the problem, and for birthdays and Christmases since I have made sure to send plenty of extra thoughtful, personal, luxurious gifts on time. My question is, after four years, when can I start to phone it in again and to give just regular gifts. And that's from someone named Katie. So basically, Katie went on vacation to New York to meet her friend for their birthdays. She didn't take a single thing. The friend was understandably furious. Now she's like, she's made up for it for four years. When can she stop making up for it? 00:53:54 Speaker 4: I think she can stop now. 00:53:56 Speaker 2: Four years is enough? 00:53:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, four years is enough for huge gifts. Her friend getting hurt. 00:54:01 Speaker 2: That's a good question. It's the friend reciprocating in any way. 00:54:05 Speaker 3: Yeah, because if the friend is not reciprocating, if the friend is still kind of upset about that that one year, and because I mean, you gotta understand, I feel like that's a little selfish. You got to understand the travel I have a similar story to this. Oh what, I went back home for Christmas twenty nineteen going into twenty twenty, and the year before that, I went home, but I went on the twenty seventh. So it's like, I ain't gotta I'm here, I'm gift enough. And it's also my dad's side of the family. Long story short, I am not as close with my dad's side of the family as I am with my mother's side of the family. 00:54:46 Speaker 2: I grew up in a separate household, but they're still my family. 00:54:50 Speaker 3: But also on top of growing up in a separate household in Mississippi, I have lived in LA for twenty two years, twenty three now, and so I don't go I wasn't going back for Christmas. It's been a long time since I've been an adult. I've been back twice since I was eighteen. 00:55:07 Speaker 2: Man. 00:55:07 Speaker 3: So yeah, so this year, I say, you know, I'm gonna go back for the actual holiday. Wake up in the morning on Christmas Day at my dad's house. 00:55:16 Speaker 2: My brothers were home, my step mom is there, my stepbrother is there, cousins, my grandma, And I'm. 00:55:24 Speaker 4: Like, okay, do I have to get all these people gifts? 00:55:28 Speaker 3: And so I took to the internets, the Twitter polls, the Instagram polls, weeding through all the weirdos husa as an opportunity to attack me. 00:55:39 Speaker 2: Have you thought about buying this. Have you thought I'm buying this? Weeding through that. 00:55:43 Speaker 3: I got a few close friends to be like, Unfortunately, Carl, your Hollywood kid, you gotta buy gifts. 00:55:53 Speaker 2: Oh sure, because everyone's everyone's expecting you to be horrible. 00:55:58 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm like, why why are they gonna buy me gifts? I want to wake up to some presents in the morning, like if I'm buying all of them stuff. 00:56:08 Speaker 2: Of course, So what I did was I got There's. 00:56:12 Speaker 3: A long drive from New Orleans International or Region or whatever it's called to Gupport Mississippi. It's about an hour and an hour and a half. 00:56:22 Speaker 2: On the way. 00:56:23 Speaker 3: There's colds and and things like that. I stopped, gift carded up, alcoholed up. Oh my, loaded up the rental car with gifts just in case, right, but also things that I could use myself. 00:56:37 Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. This could easily just be for you. Yes it besides like the Bottles house. I knew I was gonna get my dad something, but I'm like, there's other people that should I be shotting for these people? 00:56:46 Speaker 3: Turns out I woke up my stepmom had bought me a nice outfit. Oh she had, Yeah, and this is I'm twenty nine at the time, and she's like, she bought me a nice outfit. She bought me like my brothers had gotten me gift cards and they're much younger than I am. My dad woke up, took out a hundred bucks out of his wallet, threw it on me as I was still asleep, said Merry Christmas, and I was like, oh, wow, so it's good that I actually was able to get all of them gift cards. 00:57:17 Speaker 2: Wow. So you I felt like this was going to take a real sad turn where you woke up to nothing. 00:57:22 Speaker 4: I didn't wake up to another. I was surprised. 00:57:24 Speaker 3: I think they realized, Like I think my step mom, who was thoughtful and caring, was probably like, when is Little Call coming home? I'm a little call. When is Little Call coming home? Oh, he's going to be here on Christmas morning. Okay, let me get him a sweatsuit because I know he likes those things. And this is not a woman who I interact with often, right, because you know when you get it when you gain a step mother as an adult, you know I'm not. 00:57:46 Speaker 2: Talking, I mean that's essentially just another adult that like yeah, yeah, you know. 00:57:51 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so I was very surprised. I also get scared that I'm over gifted, so I didn't want to come in as Hollywood can be, like, you know, what's up, y'all. I just broke y'all asses off, you broke bitches like. So I was like, Okay, if I get my two brothers each a Nike gift card, they'll enjoy this. I get my dad a bottle of some alcohol which he'll like this, and a gift card like a fifth a lower priced gift card, right, and then I give my grandma a upper price gift card that's grandma plusn't like maybe a candle or something like that. And I got everybody things and it all worked out. So I think it's the thought that counts. 00:58:25 Speaker 2: It's the thought that counts. Katie. 00:58:27 Speaker 4: You can cut back on the gifts now. 00:58:29 Speaker 3: I believe your friend has take a little bit of responsibility that it is a big task to travel somewhere to see someone, especially for a birthday, not a holiday, like it's a birthday. Yes, she did buy you gifts. That is very nice of her. You could have maybe taking care of dinner. I think that would have if she was a cool person. She'd have been like, okay, yeah, you get dinner. They said they went to a comedy show. If the comedian starts doing CrowdWork, you take the brunt of it. 00:58:56 Speaker 2: That would be a huge gift for me. Yeah. No, I think that's a good idea. I feel like the the gift that travels is buying the other person dinner. You just buy a few, you know, take them out to brunch or whatever. Four years feels like it, I say, I mean, I would have said, after one thoughtful gift, you're done. So four years, you've really you've essentially served a prison sentence exactly. Hopefully everything's okay. It seems like things have been sewn up. Yeah, stop that, stop the big gifts, get back. I am an advocate for phoning in as soon as possible. Agree the moment you get the green Knight to phone in Katie, phone away. Yeah, you know, phone kat Yeah. And uh, next time you travel, just think it over a little bit. Uh. And everybody just needs to be a little less sensitive about getting gifts. I don't know, I mean, I mean, I'm the last person who should be saying these things. I've I've just gotten five seasons of Martin on DVT and I've canceled Carl three times. You know, you just can't listen to anything I say. 01:00:00 Speaker 4: It's not my love language. I'm gonna be honest, it's not. 01:00:03 Speaker 3: What is your love life receiving gifts is? I think words of affirmation is my loving Oh? 01:00:08 Speaker 2: Interesting? And I guess that makes sense for what you were saying earlier, Like when someone in public says something nice to you. Yeah, you're enjoying that. And do you like to give words of love? Yeah, that's a nice thing. I mean, I've got I need to. I feel like mine is a service. But I could be wrong, and I've just got to I've got to eventually find out what my love language is or I'm going to just be kind of stumbling through life anyway, Carl. I'm so excited to finally clear up this blind spot of early nineties television that I've had for decades at this point, and it's a wonderful five. I mean, I have nothing else going on. It's nice to have a new thing to look forward to. Yeah, turn it on, watch it a little bit. If you get tired of it, stop watching it. 01:00:58 Speaker 4: I think you will enjoy it. 01:00:59 Speaker 3: I think everybody Martin spoke a universal language in the right. 01:01:05 Speaker 2: It wasn't just a black sitcom. 01:01:07 Speaker 3: It wasn't just like something that you could write off and just like, I don't have to watch that. That's not meant for me, you know. I think it crossed the aisle. I think his his his comedic the comedic force that Martin was spoke volumes, especially during the time, and the characters that he plays. The last person that could play multiple characters on a sitcom. 01:01:29 Speaker 2: And you want to see it do that right now? I don't want to watch you do that. No, thank you, because it's already been done. 01:01:35 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I think I think you were really enjoyed. I think it'll be just a fun thing and you can turn on while you're you know, eating a. 01:01:43 Speaker 2: Nice big OL's bowl of cheesecake. Fill up this bowl with cheese. 01:01:50 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:01:52 Speaker 2: Oh, well, you've been wonderful. I'm so excited for this. And uh, I mean, I guess this is the end of the podcast. Delaine is now a star, are and we're all going to try to move on with our lives and podcast listener, that means you, I want you to do whatever you can to have a nice rest of your day and we'll talk again soon. All my love, bye bye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midroll dot com slash ads. 01:02:51 Speaker 1: Helle Man, did you hear Funna Man? Myself perfectly clear? Here, I guess to my home, you gotta come to me empty? And I said, no, guess your own presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me?