WEBVTT - Short Stuff: The Javelina

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to the Short Stuff. I'm Josh Clark. There's

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<v Speaker 1>Charles W. Chuck Bryant, Jerry sitting in for Dave c.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is short stuff about the Have Alina one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most interesting animals of all time. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>one came to me. This was my pick. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was watching for the probably fifteenth time the Royal Tannon

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<v Speaker 1>bombs and I always loved the part where Gene Hackman

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<v Speaker 1>looks up on the wall where his stuff to have

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<v Speaker 1>Helena head is missing, and he goes, where's my Helena?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was always like, what does have Elina? It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>is it something that only exists in Wes Anderson's world

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<v Speaker 1>or is it a real is it a just a

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<v Speaker 1>funny name that he calls a hog or a boar?

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<v Speaker 1>And it turns out, Havelna is I have Alena? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And actually doesn't it? First of all, what a great movie, manah,

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<v Speaker 1>good movie. Um. And and secondly, I Have Elena is

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<v Speaker 1>not a boar or a hog because those are true pigs.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out to have Lena is only distantly related to

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<v Speaker 1>the pig family. Um, It's a collared peckory. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting because the differences between it and a pig

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of surprising, especially if you just see one

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<v Speaker 1>of these things and you're like, oh, it's a pig,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's a war hog, is probably what you would say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think I would probably call it a boar

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<v Speaker 1>because we do have boars here in the South. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There they I'm not sure when the video came out,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did pop up on the news when a

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<v Speaker 1>viral video was released by Reese real estate agent and

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<v Speaker 1>Tucson who did this great video. I'm sure you watched

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<v Speaker 1>it of this have Alena just trucking like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>beside this apartment complex by itself, Holland Butt and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you always hear that like boars and have Elena's

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<v Speaker 1>like can be really fast, and you know they're big,

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<v Speaker 1>they're big animals, and you're like, how can they be

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<v Speaker 1>that fast? But then when you see this thing flying

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<v Speaker 1>down the road fast, it's kind of cool. And then people,

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<v Speaker 1>of course put music to it and it became a

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<v Speaker 1>big thing. But aside from that, if you don't live

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, uh, probably the handful of states where

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<v Speaker 1>you might see wild Havelna's, you might not know that

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<v Speaker 1>they're even a thing at all. Yeah. Um, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cute looking, actually, especially if you're if you think

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<v Speaker 1>boars are cute, because they do like a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>like boars, like war hogs, but they're much smaller. There

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<v Speaker 1>may be two ft tall up to fifty pounds, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not not much. You can pick up a havelina

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<v Speaker 1>if it would let you. Sure you don't want to, though,

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of reasons that we'll get into in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Um. But one of the big difference is

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't have a tail um or at least

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<v Speaker 1>not one that you can see um orreas of course

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<v Speaker 1>pigs do. And then another thing that really stands out

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<v Speaker 1>about the hevelinas is that they tend to hang out

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<v Speaker 1>in herds much more than a pig. Pig will hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with you human, whereas the hevelina isn't want anything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with you and would rather hang out with

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<v Speaker 1>its own people. That's right. Uh. And you know this

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<v Speaker 1>is uh. This is a shorty from the house Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works website, and they kind of tick off just a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of interesting facts and myths and things. And another

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<v Speaker 1>identify r is that they have a scent gland near

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<v Speaker 1>the base of their tail, and they use that to

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<v Speaker 1>identify one another. They use it to mark their territory.

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<v Speaker 1>They will use it to mark each other. They will

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<v Speaker 1>like bump scent glands against each other. Uh. Pigs are

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<v Speaker 1>Old World, meaning from Africa, Asia, and Europe, whereas these

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<v Speaker 1>peckeries are all New World from North, Central and South America.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, they look a lot alike, but they

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<v Speaker 1>really aren't the same and actually chock one way that

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<v Speaker 1>you could distinguish them because they do all look like um,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least they do bear a similarity to pigs

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<v Speaker 1>is that have alina's. Uh, their noses are different. And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>now that I say that out loud, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if pigs all have different noses, but with havilina,

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<v Speaker 1>you can basically use it as like a fingerprint for

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<v Speaker 1>a human. It's it's that different um, which is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And then tangentially related to that, there, they have a

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<v Speaker 1>really great sense of smell because they use musk to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of mark territory or say hi to one another. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're very stinky um. But so they both smell

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<v Speaker 1>and they also can smell really well. Get it, I do. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They're called musk cogs are skunk pigs sometimes because of

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of musky nastiness that comes with them. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also sometimes I think, have been confused for rodents.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really sure how I mean. I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a giant rodent, but giant gerbil a gerbil

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<v Speaker 1>from Hell. So this expert at least says that it's

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<v Speaker 1>a common misconception. So who knows. I guess maybe some

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<v Speaker 1>people do think they're rodents. So chuck, since we're just

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<v Speaker 1>tossing out facts about Heavelina's um. One of the other

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<v Speaker 1>things that I like is that they can't see very well.

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<v Speaker 1>They can see about thirty feet away, almost like they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're you're sighted, not even almost like they are near sighted.

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<v Speaker 1>They rely mostly on smell um. But because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>they it's easy for a human to get close to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to leave it for the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of this commercial break to answer whether that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing or a bad thing for you. The human just

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<v Speaker 1>like starts the sky, there is so much stop it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a bad thing. Okay, here we go, got it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a quick answer. It really was. Let me elaborate

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<v Speaker 1>the reason why it's bad is because Heavelina's have a

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<v Speaker 1>reppie tation at least out west Um for being ferocious,

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<v Speaker 1>and that may or may not be uh deserved, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because supposedly people who are have Alina experts like cornuler

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and their ilk um say that no, they're they're defensive.

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<v Speaker 1>They're defending their territory. More often than not, they're defending

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<v Speaker 1>their young. And you've just kind of startled them because

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<v Speaker 1>you've gotten you've gotten close to them, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>notice you there before because they can't see very well.

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<v Speaker 1>And now they're saying, back off, our kids are here,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas if you're a human, you're just seeing some scary

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<v Speaker 1>hell pigs coming at you as a group. Basically, yeah uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They are even what is known as even towed ungulates,

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<v Speaker 1>which means they are hoofed mammals. But they bear the

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<v Speaker 1>weight and this is this gets a little wonky, but

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. They bear the weight almost equally on

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<v Speaker 1>their third and fourth toes um, rather than like a

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<v Speaker 1>horse or a rhinoceros who are toad unguluts, and they

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<v Speaker 1>bear most of their weight almost entirely on the third

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I saw a really cool documentary on horses

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<v Speaker 1>called Equis e q u Us. It's about like the

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<v Speaker 1>natural history of the horse and they talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>the horse, the feet of the horse is actually just

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<v Speaker 1>one toe, so like the horses are walking on four toes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they walk and run on. Isn't that amazing?

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<v Speaker 1>It is? And uh, I love I'm gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>see that documentary. Do they talk about Cumberland Island, Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>at all? Yeah? I think they do at some point. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember where, but yeah, I think so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That is uh if you're listening and you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it. One of our barrier islands here in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>Cumberland Island is as still has wild horses that roam free. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's amazing. It is amazing. You can see video of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't even have to go down there for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when when you travel the Gumberland Island, know it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. I've never been, I've just seen it on video,

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<v Speaker 1>but it looks pretty beautiful. It's great. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that really struck me, Chuck, was the second part

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<v Speaker 1>of that movie. Um is about the the domestication of

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<v Speaker 1>horses and how it first happened on the steps of

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<v Speaker 1>like Mongolia, that stuff, so I get us. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>that documentary and it seemed vaguely familiar to me. Then

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<v Speaker 1>next day I was queueing an episode on animal domestication

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<v Speaker 1>and we talked about the exact same thing, like six

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<v Speaker 1>eight years before. Yeah, see how that happens in that

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<v Speaker 1>neat that timing though, from one night to the next day,

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<v Speaker 1>bam bam. And then my brain just exploded a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That Mandela effect. Is that what that is? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. I think it's more. Oh, maybe it touches

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<v Speaker 1>on bottom mine hoff a little bit. Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking. The stuff you should know efect. We

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<v Speaker 1>should have our own effect by now. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>so too. And then you're pushing for the star wipe

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<v Speaker 1>all these years but a different effect. Yeah, yeah, totally

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<v Speaker 1>different meaning of the world. Here's another Havelina back to

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<v Speaker 1>Halna is another Havelina factoid. That other thing is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool is that they are generally herbivores um. They

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<v Speaker 1>have these you know, they have kind of the big

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<v Speaker 1>canines or like tusks, and you would think, like, boy,

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<v Speaker 1>those things are some meat eaters and they will eat

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<v Speaker 1>meat like if a if a bird happens to come

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<v Speaker 1>a little too close or something. But they're generally trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get down there in the roots and fruits and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to dig down and eat plants their plan eaters.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were gonna say something like boots. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had another one. Roots shoots, very nice

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<v Speaker 1>chuck all right, so um yeah, but yeah, the one

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<v Speaker 1>of the experts mentions how they'll sometimes find dove feathers

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<v Speaker 1>in the hevelina pen. Yeah, it is a little sad,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess it's an dull course of things, and

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<v Speaker 1>they can be a little uh you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>live out in Arizona, you might have stories of them

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<v Speaker 1>coming after your dogs because they might think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>coyote or something threatening their their pack. Um, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are did see some videos of dogs and a fence

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<v Speaker 1>with hablinas on the outside of the fence kind of

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<v Speaker 1>there they'll get the mohawk like a dog does on

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<v Speaker 1>their back with the upset and the hair pokes up.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, I also saw a video of aveline and

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<v Speaker 1>a dog playing and a field and it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the cutest dang things I've ever seen. Helena was

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<v Speaker 1>just bopping him with his head and nosing them, and

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<v Speaker 1>the dog was kind of fake biting, and they would

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<v Speaker 1>run around and it's just the best. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I should search to see that? I would just say,

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<v Speaker 1>Hablina dog play, and I bet you that'll take you

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<v Speaker 1>right there in boots. In boots, you got anything else

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<v Speaker 1>about have Alina's no? I think they're the the unsung

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<v Speaker 1>uh heroes of the even todungulate community. Very nice, Well, everybody,

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