1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Aertorris, 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tirack dot 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Com studios tiraq dot com. We'll help you get there 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: and unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road as a 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: protection in over ten thousand recommended installers tiraq dot com. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be er Torris, Jason Martin 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: Here until two am Eastern Time. As de Sega just 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: told you, Cincinnati Bengals up nineteen to seventeen, two minutes 10 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: left in the fourth quarter. Bengals need to win to 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: keep slim playoff hopes alive. Jason Martin, what's going on? 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 3: Man? 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: How you doing? 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 3: Pretty good? Man? Pretty good? This game got interesting. It 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: looked like it wasn't gonna be one to watch, and 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: then this second half it seems like Pittsburgh wants to 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: do their part too. Just ruin since Sinnati tonight, so 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: they don't even have to watch the games tomorrow. They 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 3: know they're out. Crazy great play by Benton to sack 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: Burrow on third and three right there before the two 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 3: minute time out. Now we've got Pittsburgh with a chance 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: with Boswell was one of the best kickers in the league, 23 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: especially this year. All they needs a field goal to 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 3: win the game. So here we go again, Pittsburgh finding 25 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: a way. Potentially we'll find out. Well, we got some drama 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: in this Legue game. I like it. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cincinnati was up nineteen to seven. They kick a 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: field goal with eleven minutes to go. Pat friarm Youth 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: touchdown plus a extra point cuts it to nineteen fourteen, 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: and then as you just said, Boswell knock through a 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: fifty four yarder to make it nineteen seventeen. Uh, Cincinnati 32 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: only able to take thirty nine seconds off the clock 33 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: as they as they get the ball back. Bigger picture, Uh, 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 2: First of all, let me ask you this, j Mark. 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: So obviously, with a win, if the Steelers hold on, 36 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: they would clinch a five seed Bengal. I think most 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: people know the scenario by now. But they need to 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: win this game. They need to win this game, and 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: they need the Dolphins to lose Week eighteen on Sunday, 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: Then they need the Broncos to lose against the Kansas 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: City Chiefs, who are obviously going to be resting most 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: of their marquee players. Of course, the Chiefs have clinched 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: the number one overall seed in the AFC. 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: What do you just make of these two teams? 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Cincinnati feels dangerous if they can get in. 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 4: I know I've asked you this before. 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: Do you think Pittsburgh kind of hit their ceiling already 48 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 2: with this kind of Russell Wilson iteration of the Pittsburgh Steelers. 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: They have lost three in a row coming into tonight 50 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: trailing nineteen seventeen with two minutes to go in this one. 51 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: J markin, Yeah, pretty much. I mean, I think this 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: is It's still been a pretty good season for them, 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: but you're looking at them now and just saying this 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 3: is not a team's probably going deep in the playoffs. 55 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: If anything, they're going to be a nuisance. The defense 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: is always going to give them a chance because they're 57 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 3: a big playmate kind of defense, But the offense definitely 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 3: has a suing to it with the version of it 59 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: that we're seeing right now. At the same time, Mike 60 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: tom Wins the kind of coach that can win a 61 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: game that he's not supposed to. He can motivate his guys, 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: and his guys step up and play a little bit 63 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: above themselves. I think the bigger story is just Cincinnati. 64 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: Cincinnati's the kind of team you want to see in 65 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: the playoffs because you want to see that offense. You 66 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: don't want to see the defense, but you want to 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: see the offense. But the problem is, did they turn 68 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: it around too late. Burrow has been MVP level throughout 69 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: this season, especially on this last stretch, but sometimes even 70 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: a great season goes for not and it does seem 71 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: like this could easily be just that season where Burrow 72 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: had an unreal year, Jamar Chase had an unreal year, 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: and at the same time they're going nowhere. 74 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: It's funny because obviously we're coming off this second round 75 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: of the college football playoffs. But it's like you look 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: at some of these college football playoff teams, even the 77 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: teams that got in maybe have one area where they're 78 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: pretty good, but you can tell that they're weak in 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: other spots. You know, we'll talk about Georgia in a minute, 80 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: well in a minute. 81 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: You know, probably top of next hour. 82 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: But it's like that team didn't run the ball all 83 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: that well all year, didn't do this all that well 84 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: this year, And I think everybody kind of just thought 85 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 2: because they had that G on the side of their helmet, 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: they'd be fine. 87 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: They weren't. 88 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: And I kind of think of the same thing as 89 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals, as there are things that they do well, 90 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: but obviously the defense has let them down so much 91 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: throughout the season. The run game has by the way 92 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: the Steelers are driving, they do have the ball back 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 2: with about a minute to go right around midfield here 94 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: as they're trying to get in a field goal range 95 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: for Boswell. But yeah, I think the Bengals, listen, you know, listen, 96 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: the Bengals are the cliche. And I know this isn't 97 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: like a unique talking point from my perspective, but the 98 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: Bengals are the cliche. Like nobody wants them in because 99 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: of how dangerous Joe Burrow could be in a playoff scenario. 100 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 2: But you know, I just if they don't get in, 101 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: I don't think any of us are going to shed 102 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: tears because they had some bad losses along the way. 103 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: By the way, Russell Wilson, with a very dumb play, 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 2: did not get out of bounds. The Steelers are out 105 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: of timeouts. Russell Wilson has now been sacked twice and 106 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: basically tried. 107 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 4: Basically, let me set this up. 108 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: The last two plays, Russell Wilson tried to make a 109 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: play outside of the pocket, could not get out of bounds, 110 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: clock was running, Steelers had one time out left. He 111 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: then proceeds to take a sack on the following play. 112 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: So basically Russell Wilson with two crucial mistakes. 113 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 3: Well one mistake really, I mean that second snap. I 114 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: think you called the time out prior to that personally, 115 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: because I don't think Russ had much of a chance 116 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 3: on the sack play. It's not like it was like 117 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: you gotta get it out of your hand. I mean, 118 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: he didn't have anywhere to go. Like that was a 119 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: sack that was straight up the gut a second and 120 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: a half after he got the ball in his hands. Yeah. 121 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I could counter by saying, if you are 122 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: a little smarter with the ball on. 123 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 4: The first play, you don't have to but it doesn't 124 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 4: really matter. 125 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: The point is back to back play where Russell Wilson 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: cannot get out of bounds, does not complete a pass 127 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: the second one. To your point, J Mart, he really 128 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: had nowhere to go. So Pittsburgh does use its final 129 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: time out again the scenario, Pittsburgh, they have been eliminated 130 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: from the AFC North title because Baltimore won earlier in 131 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: the day, locked up the five seed, and they are 132 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: trying now to get into field goal range for a 133 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: potential game winning kick. As Russell Wilson did throw the 134 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: ball deep, it looked like he had George Pickens wide open. 135 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 2: But I don't know if Pickens slipped or if the 136 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: ball was overthrown. We're trying to get a replay on this. 137 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: We're not allowed to do play by play now. It 138 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: looks like the ball was just overthrown, but he had 139 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 2: Pickens deep and if he hits him, there in clear 140 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: field goal range right now. So again, Cincinnati again, by 141 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: the way, for people who do not know, needs a 142 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: win and a Miami loss and also a Denver loss 143 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: tomorrow to clinch the final playoff spot. And we are 144 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: down to the final play at his fourth and twelve 145 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 2: with about fifteen seconds to go. 146 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: Again, by the way, the FCC is listening. 147 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: We're not doing play by play here, We're just we're 148 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: just talking about football here, j Mart. 149 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: So weird that you guys are always like thirty seconds 150 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: ahead of me. We're ahead, Oh, yeah, like I get 151 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: everything spoiled here. 152 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: Wow, No, I'm kidding nothing. Did I ever tell you 153 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: the story when I was on air with Arnie Spanier 154 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: the Jalen Suggs half court shot. He was, Yes, he 155 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: was thirty seconds ahead. And if you remember, UCLA had 156 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: scored a basket, and they score basket to either tie 157 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 2: it or take the lead or I forget. And as 158 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: soon as the ball goes as soon as the ball 159 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: is being inbounded to Jalen Suggs, or maybe it was 160 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: a little bit before, I hear Arnie just screaming, oh oh, 161 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you're joking, And then of course the 162 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: ball goes in and the rest is history. We have 163 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: one of the most iconic shots in NCAA tournament history. 164 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: But Arnie Spanier was thirty seconds ahead of us. Now 165 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: apparently we're thirty seconds ahead of you. I will set 166 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: it up fourth and twelve. Cincinnati is on about their 167 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: own forty yard line, well out of field goal range. 168 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: Need to get into field goal range. They're trailing nineteen 169 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: to seventeen. There's fifteen seconds left in this game, and 170 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: so we will see what happens. We do have an 171 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: incomplete pass turnover on downs, the Cincinnati Bengals will get 172 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: the ball back. 173 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: All they gotta do is snap it and take a knee. 174 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: Yep, still don't have a snap here. 175 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: Well, sorry to ruin Christmas for you there, j Mark. 176 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, the Pittsburgh Steelers are The Cincinnati Bengals are 177 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: going to hold on to win this game. Final score 178 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: nineteen to seventeen, assuming they can snap the ball without 179 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: fumbling it and take a knee. 180 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: It is ballgame. 181 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: The Cincinnati bengals slim playoff hopes are still alive. J 182 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: Mart needs your Denver Broncos to lose as like a 183 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 2: two touchdown favorite tomorrow if we want Joe Burrow in 184 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: the playoffs, among other things. 185 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 3: But well, I'm hoping that he's not in the playoffs. 186 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: There would be times that I wouldn't feel that way, 187 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: but not this year. I mean, I want my Broncos there. 188 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: Ten and a half point I think is the last 189 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: number that I saw. It would be just like the 190 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: Broncos to find a way to lose that game, though, 191 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: So I don't know that I can watch it. Honestly, 192 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: I might just have to like keep up to date 193 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: through score apps or something like that. I don't know 194 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: that I can watch that game. That's gonna be a 195 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: little bit too nerve racking. And I'm quite superstitious when 196 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: it comes to watching my teams. They usually do better 197 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: when I don't watch them. 198 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: So Cincinnati has officially won. They improve to nine and 199 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: eight on the season overall. Again, just resetting it one 200 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: more time for people who are just joining us. With 201 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: Cincinnati's win, it now means that they need the Denver 202 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: Broncos to lose at home. As as J Martin said 203 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: about a certainly a double digit favorite against the Kansas 204 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: City Chiefs, who will arrest everyone, they would need both 205 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: Denver to lose and then Miami to lose as well. 206 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's a weird thing with Cincinnati. By the way, 207 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: the Steelers I think are pretty locked and excuse me, 208 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: to the five seed they'll open Houston. It looks like 209 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 2: they're not quite locked in yet. So we'll get into 210 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: all the scenarios with the Steelers in a second. I 211 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: misread something shaman I won't I won't name the website, 212 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: but misread it on a very credible outlet. 213 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: But anyway, Bengals have won five straight. 214 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: Now I'll just say this a little bit of a 215 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: bummer that we're not gonna see Joe Burrow potentially in 216 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: these playoffs. But I don't know what else there is 217 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: to say. I mean, you'll lose in Week one to 218 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. Obviously throughout the rest of the season, 219 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: you don't really have a lot of bad losses. 220 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 4: You did lose to the Steelers the first time you play. 221 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: That was really maybe the peak of the Russell Wilson 222 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: experience with the sin with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Excuse me, 223 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: you lost that weird game of the Chargers on Sunday 224 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: Night Football where you fell way behind and then rallied 225 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: in the second half. But if Cincinnati Bengals missed the playoffs, 226 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's cliche or wrong to 227 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: say that they certainly had their chances, most notably with 228 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: a loss in Week one to a New England Patriots 229 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: team that right now is trending for the number one 230 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: seed in the playoffs. 231 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes even the great quarterbacks, they don't end 232 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 3: up making the playoffs. It's just the way the sport works. 233 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: And again, if I mean, the Bengals finishing above five 234 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: hundred is still pretty impressive, considering where they were, you know, 235 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: eight weeks ago, but it may have been just a 236 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: little bit too late when they really started to make 237 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 3: the turnaround. We'll find out, I guess in about twenty 238 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 3: four hours, which you're right. I mean, everybody I think 239 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: wants as many good quarterbacks, good offenses as they can 240 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: have in this postseason. The AFC is just murderers row 241 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: when it comes to great quarterback play and iconic guys 242 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: that are you know, seems like walking Hall of famers 243 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 3: that were watching all across the board, and a lot 244 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 3: of young talent that you like as well. NFC is 245 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 3: a little different in that regard, but it does think 246 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: you're not gonna get burrowed this year because he certainly 247 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: deserves it, as does his just his offense in general, 248 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 3: they deserve it, but you just you don't want to 249 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 3: go into it not being able to control your own destiny. 250 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: You like it with the Ravens. All the Ravens had 251 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: to do to clinch their division was to beat an 252 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: awful Browns team, And I mean that's what you want. 253 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: You want to be able to control your own destiny 254 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: and beat a team that's already given out mean Miles 255 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 3: Garrett came out after the game and said this year 256 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: was worse than the winless team. Wow, he said that 257 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: about his own franchise. So that tells you how things 258 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 3: are going in Cleveland right now. Yeah. 259 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 2: So Baltimore with their win earlier, we'll come back, we'll 260 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: discuss that. But Baltimore with their win, has clinched the 261 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: AFC North. That was independent of what happened with Cincinnati 262 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh. So the AFC North was clinched prior to 263 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: this Pittsburgh Cincinnati game. Cincinnati for the last time for 264 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 2: a while. It needs both Denver and Miami to lose 265 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 2: on Sunday. If they do, Cincinnati would get the final spot. 266 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 2: Correcting something I said earlier, Pittsburgh would get the five 267 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: seed if the Chargers lose in Week eighteen, and if 268 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: the Chargers win, then they would fall to the sixth seed, 269 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: where they would play the Baltimore Ravens, who, of course, 270 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: they just lost to a few weeks ago. This is 271 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Ara Tors Jason Martin 272 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tirac dot Com studios. 273 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 4: We'll come back. 274 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about the early game as Baltimore. 275 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: As Jmarch just told you, took care of business against 276 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns. Good news for Baltimore. Now what happens 277 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: with the vaunted MVP conversation? Everyone's got to take We'll 278 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: share ours next. Fox Sports Radio. 279 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 280 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 281 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 282 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 5: listen live. 283 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 4: Welcome back, everybody. 284 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aer toards Jason Martin broadcasting live FROMTHTI 285 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: IRAQ dot com studios to NFL. 286 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 4: Games on Saturday. 287 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: Both are complete if you're just joining us. The Cincinnati 288 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: Bengals have held on to beat the Steelers. That one 289 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: goes final just moments ago. With the win, Cincinnati gets 290 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: into the playoffs, but only if both the Denver Broncos 291 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: and Miami Dolphins lose. In Week eighteen on Sunday, Pittsburgh 292 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: it will either be the five or the sixth seed. 293 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: They will be the five seed if the Chargers lose 294 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: to the Raiders. If the Chargers win, the Chargers then 295 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: get the five seed. Pittsburgh would get the sixth seed, 296 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: where they would play the Baltimore Ravens. That's because Baltimore 297 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: beat the Cleveland Browns thirty five to ten in the 298 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: early game. Bailey Zappi couldn't get the job done sixty 299 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: to thirty one, one touchdown, two interceptions. I did not 300 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: see this, but Jamar tells me that Miles Garrett says 301 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: that the Cleveland Browns, who finished three and fourteen, that 302 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett says this was a worse season than the 303 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: season that he was part of, where the team went 304 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 2: owen sixteen under Hugh Jackson. 305 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 4: However, many years ago that was brown season has done. 306 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: J Mart. 307 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: Ravens obviously have now clinched the AFC North, they have 308 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: the number three seed. Takeaways from this game, Jmart. 309 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: The quote was, it's probably a more disappointing season because 310 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: of what we expected out of ourselves. That it was 311 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 3: more of a letdown than the windless year, because this 312 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: team should have been better, essentially, is what he was saying. 313 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: And this is the guy in Miles Garrett. As good 314 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: as he's been, his rookie year was the winless year. 315 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: So he's had a couple of these that he's had 316 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: to endure. So he's speaking from a place of experience. 317 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: The takeaway is that the Ravens are going to be dangerous. 318 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: But all right, here we go it. Now's the time. 319 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: Now we start paying attention Lamar. Like again, no one 320 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: is criticizing Lamar Jackson in any way, shape or form, 321 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: but now you gotta get it done. It's really that simple. 322 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: It's that simple for him, it's that simple for Josh 323 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: Allen as well. This is the whole point. We said 324 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: this before the season, Aaron, We said, I don't really 325 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: care what you do up until January, and now technically 326 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: we're in January, so I don't care what you do 327 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: until the second weekend in January, because now we're going 328 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: to see. Now it is time for you to take 329 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: that next step. The Chiefs, despite their record, are beatable, 330 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: you would think, but playoff Mahomes is a different animal. 331 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: Playoff Kelsey's a different animal. Playoff, Chris Jones a different animal. 332 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: All these things, but somebody eventually has to do this 333 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: or we're going to continue to have the same talk here, 334 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: which is, man, you guys are really really good, but 335 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: right now you're just Karl Malone's like, right now you 336 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 3: are guys that have not actually been able to get 337 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 3: there and in the case of these two gentlemen, they 338 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: would then have not made it to a super Bowl. 339 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: The guy who might not make the playoffs that we 340 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 3: just saw beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, that being Joe Burrow 341 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 3: and his crew. They at least made a super Bowl 342 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: and beat Mahomes on the way to do it. But 343 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: we know that the road to the super Bowl is 344 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: going to go through Kansas City. The question is, is one 345 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: of these two guys, because I think it's we want 346 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: to be one of these two. Is one of these 347 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 3: two guys gonna actually step up and take this thing? 348 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 3: And maybe Justin Herbert have something to say about it too. 349 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, but that's where we are right now. 350 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: And now we get to this point where now we 351 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: care about what the Bills do. Now we care about 352 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: what the Ravens do, and now we see whether or 353 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: not these regular seasons are ready to translate. 354 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: Really quick because I want to get to some other conversations, 355 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: but I think it's worth noting, like, you know, you 356 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: talk about an intriguing opening round matchup obviously the Harball Brothers, 357 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 2: but I mean, you know, these two teams played at 358 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: Sofi Stadium not that long ago. Baltimore wins thirty to 359 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 2: twenty three. But it's like you talk about a tough 360 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: first first round draw up potentially. Now again, if the 361 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: Chargers win, then they would actually get Houston, and then 362 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: the Chargers could conceivably play Kansas City as opposed to 363 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh playing as the five seed whatever. But that's not 364 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: an easy draw. But let's talk Lamar and Josh Allen. 365 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: Now do the cliche NFL MVP conversation, but since you 366 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 2: defaulted to what are you gonna do in the playoffs 367 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: for both these guys, which I think is actually a 368 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: much more interesting conversation than the MVP, I feel like 369 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 2: the MVP has been beaten into a pulp, you know, 370 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: the last three four weeks. I just I just want 371 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 2: them to give you award to somebody because I'm tired 372 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: of hearing people argue over it. 373 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: And we could say, look, Lamar Josh Allen. I think 374 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: I would go with Allen this year, but if Lamar 375 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 3: would have win it, I wouldn't be like so upset either. 376 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 3: They've both been phenomenal, and you had say Kwon Barkway 377 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 3: to that mix as well. You can add Joe Burrow 378 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 3: to that mix. Of course as well, like there are 379 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: guys where it's okay, so we don't even have to 380 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: have that debate. That's a regular season award, and you 381 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: play the sport to win a super Bowl. 382 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 4: So let me ask you this. 383 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: Then, obviously it seems likely that you know, it doesn't 384 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: even seem likely if if both teams win their opening 385 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: round game, Buffalo has clinched the two spot, Baltimore clinched 386 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 2: the three spot with their win today, they'll face each 387 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 2: other independent of who would win that matchup, Like, who 388 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: do you think player wise, who do you think needs 389 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: the run more and potentially to go through Mahomes more? 390 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 4: Do you think it is Josh Allen? 391 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: Do you think it is Lamar Jackson? 392 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 393 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: What three? 394 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 4: A curveball there. 395 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: Man, that's a good question. I think it's probably Allen 396 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: just because of the history between the Chiefs and the Bills. 397 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: I think we still regard the best game that Josh 398 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: Allen ever played to be one he lost because of 399 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 3: what happened in overtime. So I think in terms of 400 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 3: the Kansas city of it all, it's Josh Allen overall. 401 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: Just in terms of making it to a Super Bowl, 402 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 3: I think it's Lamar Jackson because his highs have been 403 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: higher when it comes to multiple MVPs. The way he's 404 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: been talked about, and it's been justified, don't get me wrong, 405 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: Like that kind of talk has to eventually get you 406 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: into a super Bowl. At some point. You have to 407 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 3: stop being Peyton Manning before the Rex Grossman rain game, Like, 408 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: eventually you have to actually get there. And Derek Henry's 409 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: not getting younger. He's been in the league for a 410 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 3: long time. The Zay Flowers deal, we got to see 411 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: how that goes. He was injured in the game. Hopefully 412 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: that's not going to be bad because he's the number 413 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: one pass catcher in terms of yards and perceptions this 414 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: year for Lamar Jackson. But I think it might be 415 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 3: Lamar overall. But for the Chiefs in terms of that boogeyman, 416 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: I think that still belongs to the Bills. 417 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: It's an interesting debate, I so, I think so my 418 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 2: personal opinion is the individual versus the team. 419 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 4: As you said, it is two different conversations. 420 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: I think the individual is probably Lamar Jackson because I 421 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: think even in these especially the most recent ones, I 422 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: think when when Kansas City has beaten Buffalo, I don't 423 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 2: think people have looked at it and said, wow, Josh Allen, 424 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: that's stunk, Whereas like we do still look at last 425 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: year's AFC Championship game, Lamar Jackson, It's hard for me 426 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: to say he didn't show up because I still go 427 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: back to I think the play calling from Todd Monkey 428 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: was terrible. I still a year later blamed Todd Munket 429 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: more than I blame Lamar Jackson. But it doesn't change 430 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 2: the fact that I, like, I could be wrong, and 431 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: maybe I'm getting old and my brain's getting fuzzy. I 432 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: don't think people blame Josh Allen for the losses as 433 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: much as. 434 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: They blame Lamar Jackson for. 435 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: Specifically that AFC Championship Game loss last year really quickly. 436 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: What I will say, though, I think what you said 437 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: is right, and I think it's an interesting way to 438 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: look at it is the player Lamar probably needs it more. 439 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: I do think the team would be the Buffalo Bills, 440 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: because like, like if Lamar and and and Baltimore don't 441 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: get it right, like you know, nothing's gonna happen. Like 442 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: you said, Derek Henry is getting old or whatever, but 443 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 2: like John Harbaugh's this John Harbas said he's probably a 444 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. 445 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: I don't. 446 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how Hall of Fame works for coaches, 447 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: but we all agree John Harbaugh's awesome. He's not going 448 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: anywhere he's been there forever. I don't even think if 449 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: if Baltimore got shut out that Todd Munkin's gonna be 450 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: forced out or anything like that. Like I do think though, 451 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: if the Bills again again cannot get past the Kansas 452 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: City Chiefs. And I know it's tough to say because 453 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: in this hypothetical it'd be in the AFC Championship game, 454 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: it'd be at Arrowhead, But like I do wonder if 455 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 2: heads in theory could roll for the Buffalo Bills if 456 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: they were to lose to Kansas City. I'm not saying 457 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: it would happen, but what would this be Jmark Four 458 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: of the last five years they would have lost to 459 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 2: Kansas City in the playoffs. I think that status right. 460 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: Last year they lost at home. I know they lost 461 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: in an AFC Championship game, and then they lost the 462 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 2: thirteen second game. So yeah, that's three times already in 463 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 2: the last four years. And then it would be four 464 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: or five losing to Kansas City so that's a long 465 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: window way of me saying I think the player versus 466 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: the team, in my opinion, is different. I think Leamar 467 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: for kind of you know, for the like you said, 468 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: for the final narrative to die, I think Lamar needs 469 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: to make a deep run. But for an organizational perspective, 470 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: I would think it's probably the Bills. 471 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I mean, and of course it's subjective 472 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 3: to some degree, because if the game turned out to 473 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: be like the thirteen second game, for example, you would 474 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: have to look at it differently than the Bills getting 475 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: beaten by two touchdowns and just kind of it coming 476 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 3: to the end with a whimper, as opposed to having 477 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: an opportunity to win the game, maybe even having scored 478 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 3: and then you know, there's thirty seconds left or something 479 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 3: of Homes makes some kind of crazy play. So it 480 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 3: would depend possibly on how that game transpired in terms 481 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: of how the heads rolling side of that argument, But 482 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: it would just be unthinkably difficult, I would think for 483 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 3: Josh Allen to just have to deal again with not 484 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: being able to get through this guy, and it would feel, 485 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 3: in some respects kind of like those many teams in 486 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: the East that could never get by by the Chicago Bulls. Yeah, 487 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: like those teams that could never get by New England 488 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: despite the fact they had more talent, they felt like 489 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: on their roster. Somehow it was always there was always 490 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: a way to get the Patriots there. There was always 491 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 3: a Jordan play, there was always the right past, the 492 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: curse shot, whatever it was. Something was there and it 493 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,479 Speaker 3: would knock somebody out. It would keep somebody from making it. 494 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: And that's the kind of thing here where it would 495 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 3: just be it would be nightmares, you really would like 496 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: you would wake up in the middle of the night, 497 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 3: cold sweat, like, how do I beat this guy? We 498 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 3: were better than them all season long, beat him head 499 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 3: but still exactly, but still we lose to them in 500 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 3: the playoffs. It would be devastating for the Bills really quick. 501 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: I know it's impossible without you know, there's no way 502 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: for us to know under these like would you be 503 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: an advocate of if they were to lose again? Having 504 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: a serious conversation about Sean McDermott and the only reason 505 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 2: why I ask I understand all of the regular season. 506 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: I also do know like to expect Josh. 507 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 2: Allen with the way that he plays, and I know 508 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: he ran the ball a little bit less than he 509 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: has historically. This year they finally got a ground game 510 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 2: going with James Cook all that, if you lose again, 511 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, cause again you'd be on the road, 512 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: casey whatever. 513 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: But I do like it does feel like I don't know, 514 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: Like I don't know. 515 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: Could you I guess you probably would run it back, 516 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: But I just I feel like, man, if you were 517 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: to lose that again, if you were to lose in 518 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: another AFC Championship game again, that'd be four times in 519 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: five years that you have lost to the Kansas City Chiefs. Like, 520 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, I would have to at least think 521 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: about it. I think that it should have been considered 522 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 2: last year. 523 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 3: It certainly we both did. Yeah, yeah, I mean see, 524 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it would depend upon information 525 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: that we don't have about what happens behind closed doors. 526 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 3: The biggest thing being how does Josh Allen feel about 527 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: his coach. I think that's really it. Like, as long 528 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: as he and Sean McDermott are getting along, I think 529 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 3: you would be hesitant to make that play. But if 530 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: there's any kind of friction, or if Allen is not 531 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: really sold anymore, on the vision doesn't like maybe the attitude, 532 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 3: the passing the buck that we've seen or whatever it is. 533 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 3: Some things that may have happened closed doors that were 534 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 3: not privy to at all. If there is some kind 535 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: of friction between Josh Allen and his coach, then you 536 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: make the move, because Josh Allen's the franchise, not Sean McDermott. 537 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 2: This is Tours of Martin, Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Tors 538 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: and Jason Martin here in the Tireck dot Com studios. 539 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: Jmart will come back. We will go from the AFC 540 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 2: to the NFC. Chicago Bears need a new head coach 541 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 2: and an interesting name popped up over the last couple 542 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: of days. 543 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: We'll discuss that next. 544 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: Before we do, though, first time this evening, my official 545 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: fact checker, Steve Desagre, Thanks for keeping me honest. 546 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: Up the Steelers playoff scenarios. What's up to Sager? 547 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Pittsburgh and the Chargers entered with identical records of 548 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 6: ten and six. Pittsburgh has lost Chargers or at Las 549 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 6: Vegas tomorrow. So we had another good day for Cincinnati, 550 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 6: another bad day for the Steelers. Great day for Baltimore, 551 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 6: winning and clinching the division and potentially a very good 552 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 6: day for the Chargers. A Chargers win Sunday at Las 553 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 6: Vegas means they'll open the playoffs at Houston next week 554 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 6: in in other words, getting to play the worst of 555 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 6: the four division winners, and a Charger win tomorrow would 556 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 6: throw the slumping Steelers at Baltimore to open the playoffs 557 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 6: next weekend. The Ravens clinched the AFC North and the 558 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 6: number three seed with a win over Cleveland thirty five ten. 559 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson two touchdown passes. On the ground, he had 560 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 6: nine carries sixty three yards, Derrick Henry two touchdown runs 561 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 6: in the fourth For the game, he had one hundred 562 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 6: and thirty eight yards rushing. And then Pittsburgh lost its 563 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 6: fourth game in a row. Ten and seven record for 564 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 6: the Steelers lost at home to Cincinnati nineteen to seventeen. 565 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 6: Bengals had led ten to nothing in the first quarter, 566 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 6: led nineteen to seven in the fourth. Let's not forget 567 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 6: the final minute of the first half in this one 568 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 6: at Pittsburgh, because the Steelers were stopped on a third 569 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 6: and one and then a fourth and one back to 570 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 6: back plays turned it over on downs and the Bengals 571 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 6: turned that into a field goal before halftime. Cincinnati eventually 572 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 6: won by two points. Five straight wins for the Bengals, 573 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 6: they finished with a winning record. Despite all the close 574 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 6: losses this year, nine and eight the mark, they actually 575 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 6: still have a chance at the last playoff spot in 576 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 6: the AFC. 577 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: Now. 578 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 6: They needed a win tonight and losses Sundays by Denver 579 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 6: and Miami, so we'll see. But Bengals running back Chase 580 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 6: Brown was out with a sprained ankle, and still the 581 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 6: Bengals win on the road. Cincinnati went four for four 582 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 6: on field goals. Washington activated running back Austin Eckler. He'll 583 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 6: play in Sunday's finale at Dallas. The Eagles activated tight 584 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 6: end Dallas Goddard. Carolina activated running back Miles Sanders off 585 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 6: i Are. The Lions activated wide receiver Khalif Raymond and 586 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 6: linebacker Alex Anzeloni. Vikings running back Aaron Jones is off 587 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 6: the injury report and due to play in that huge 588 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 6: regular season finale this Sunday night, when the Lions host 589 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,479 Speaker 6: a Vikings team that's won nine in a row. This 590 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 6: will decide the NFC North and the number one seed 591 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 6: in the NFC we'll find out who's getting next weekend off. 592 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 6: The Bahamas bull in college football went to Buffalo over 593 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 6: Liberty twenty six to seven in the late game. In 594 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 6: the NBA. Hey Kawhi Leonard has made his season debut 595 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 6: for the Clippers, coming back from the knee injury arms. 596 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 6: It's one game in a row that he has played. 597 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 6: The Clippers lead at the half seventy four to fifty 598 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 6: four over the Atlanta Hawks. Kawhi from three point range 599 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 6: three to three, nine points in the first half. Wins 600 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 6: for Utah and Golden State. Portland won at Miami one 601 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 6: O five, one O two, Chicago beat New York, wins 602 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 6: for Philadelphia and Indiana. Detroit beat Minnesota despite fifty three 603 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 6: points from Anthony Edwards, and Denver won in overtime at 604 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 6: San Antonio Nicola Jokic with forty six points. College hoops, 605 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 6: the day started with a top ten matchup at Kentucky. 606 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 6: The Wildcats beat Florida one oh six to one hundred. 607 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 4: Back to you, thank you. 608 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: Very much, Steve the Seger. This is Tours of Martin 609 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We are broadcasting live forth the Tyreck 610 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Tell you what j mart I want 611 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: a nice meaty segment here to talk about Mike McCarthy 612 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: potential Chicago as head coach. 613 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what we will come back. 614 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: We will discuss what I think is the most intriguing 615 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: vacancy we have right now. By the way, our buddy 616 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: Rex Ryan set the interview with the Jets on Tuesday. 617 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 4: I know you got takes on that as well. We'll 618 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 4: come back discuss. 619 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: McCarthy to Chicago, Sexy Rexy back to New York. Producer 620 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 2: Ian can barely hold back his excitement. This is Fox 621 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. 622 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 623 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday erratorys 624 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: Jay Smart. 625 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. 626 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: Jam is a big song to come back from to 627 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: talk about Mike McCarthy. What is it? 628 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 4: Green Day? 629 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 3: Green Day? Brain stew just the lyrics and the idea. 630 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 4: Green Day. 631 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 3: I agree, My senses dulled, My eyes feel like they're 632 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 3: gonna bleed. 633 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: Wow, all of that. 634 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 4: You like my McCarthy less than I do? 635 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: Just this idea, I'm just I don't understand. So without 636 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: even get we didn't even have to get that much 637 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: in detail. So Mike McCarthy apparently is eyeing the Bears 638 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 3: if he's out in Dallas. So Jeremy Fowler put that piece, 639 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: put that as part of like the ESPN roundtable thing 640 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: that came out this week, did he and Grasiano do? 641 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 3: And then it was picked up by eight trillion other 642 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: outlets and the Bears like it. Bears potentially are in 643 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: on the idea, and you're reading all these media pieces, 644 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: it seemed to be like, you know, that's not the 645 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: worst idea. I kind of liked that idea, and also 646 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: what what are we doing here? Like if that's not 647 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 3: the worst idea, then why is he going to be 648 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: out in Dallas? Why are we having this? Is it 649 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: just because he's worn out as welcome there? He wore 650 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: out as welcome before he got there, Like that was 651 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 3: not a great hire from the beginning. We're going to 652 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: give him to Caleb Williams in twenty twenty five? What 653 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: do we what? What are we doing here? What do 654 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: you say you do here? Guys like I don't understand 655 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: this whatsoever? 656 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: All right, So Mike McCarthy, I think it's it's worth 657 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 2: noting so his contract, obviously he doesn't have a contract 658 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 2: for next year, and so I do wonder how much 659 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: of this is just him trying to strong arm the 660 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 2: Cowboys into extending him. 661 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: But it is a very unique scenario. 662 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to know how many times 663 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: a coach, especially the like the like a Cowboys coach 664 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,239 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about like the Jacksonville Jaguars, like a 665 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: high profile coach, is in the final year of his 666 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 2: contract without an extension. 667 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 4: And it's funny. 668 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,719 Speaker 2: I forget if I talk with you, or it might 669 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: have been VJ or somebody when I was filling in 670 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: here over the last couple of weeks. But like you know, 671 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: up until last week, when they were obviously playing a 672 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: superior team, the Cowboys, they kept winning, right and you 673 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 2: know the Sunday Night game a few weeks ago they 674 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: beat the Bucks. They had won four of five prior 675 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: to the loss of the Eagles last week. And so 676 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: I do think a little bit of the like maybe 677 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: we should bring back McCarthy buzz died down. I'll just 678 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: get my thought really quick, because I do think you 679 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: kind of you didn't kind of hold how. 680 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 4: You feel is like to me, I don't think you get. 681 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: Credit for the guys playing hard when you have nothing 682 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: to play for, because like, don't tell me you have 683 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 2: nothing to play for. Like for first of all, the 684 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: fact that like Michael Parsons has been like, oh yeah, 685 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: I'd love to have him back whatever, Like that's part 686 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 2: of the problem is like, of course players are going 687 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: to want to stay in their comfort zone. They have 688 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 2: a guy, they know a guy, they like a guy, 689 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: they this a guy, they like that, whatever. So I 690 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: don't really care what if I was an owner now. 691 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: The problem is I think Jerry cares too much about 692 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: what other people think. And I you know, he's not 693 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: a maverick, He's not this he's he's kind of kind 694 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: of gets pushed over a lot by agents, by players, 695 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 2: by coaches, whatever. But my whole thing is, I've said 696 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 2: it a million times. I thought he should have been 697 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: fired a few years ago. Honestly, I certainly thought he 698 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: should have been fired after the Packers debacle. 699 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: You and I were on air the day that they. 700 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 2: Lost to the Falcons, of all teams, and that was actually, unfortunately, 701 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: the day that Dak got hurt, and so like when 702 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: they lose to the Falcons, Okay, that was the day 703 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: Dak got hurt. 704 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 4: So you can't say, oh, they didn't have dak. 705 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 2: They were three and five at that point, and oh, 706 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: by the way, had already lost three games at home 707 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: at that point, including getting embarrassed by the Lions, embarrassed 708 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 2: by the Saints of all teams, and oh, by the way, 709 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 2: the Ravens made that big rally to beat them as Erner, 710 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: excuse me, the Ravens were up big, and then the 711 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys rally to make it look respectable. So don't 712 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 2: sell me. First of all, from the Cowboys perspective, don't 713 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: sell me on Oh, the guys are playing so hard 714 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: for him. It's like yeah, because they're either vets that 715 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 2: like playing for him because he's a pushover, or they're 716 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: young guys that are looking for an opportunity. I don't 717 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: care that they play hard for him. I think the 718 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 2: Cowboys would be insane to bring him back. That's the 719 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: first part from the bearest perspective, let's talk about First 720 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 2: of all, this can be a quick one word answer. 721 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: If you feel the same way I do. Are you 722 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 2: in agreement the Cowboys would be insane to bring him 723 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 2: back or do you believe that? Okay, okay, okay, all right, 724 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: So let's talk Bears for a second, because this, to 725 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: me is actually interesting because I've heard a lot of 726 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: different takes on the Bears, right is I've heard that. Listen, 727 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: we know the state of the organization. It's been a 728 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: mess forever. 729 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 4: You know. 730 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: The mccaskeys are like this weird ownership group, old money. 731 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 2: They don't really have a ton of money, and they don't. 732 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 2: They're kind of hands off and they whatever. Kevin Warren, 733 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: you and I know from college football circles, was the 734 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 2: Big Ten Commissioneri's now that the team president. He kind 735 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: of isn't the GM, but he butts his head into 736 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: person he's he's a meddler. That's probably the best way 737 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 2: to put it. So I've heard a couple of different theories. 738 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 2: I've heard, like this concept that you need a culture guy, 739 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: like a Mike Vrabel if he would potentially take the job. 740 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: I am of the personal belief because a lot of 741 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: people are like, it's too big of a job for 742 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 2: like a Ben Johnson type who's never been a head coach, 743 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: there's too many cooks in the kitchen whatever. I actually 744 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: just fundamentally disagree with that. I think I get the 745 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 2: idea of a culture guy, but I just think Caleb 746 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 2: when I look at him, I know what the stats 747 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 2: say if you you know, if you follow this account 748 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 2: or that account, they'll tell you that he's done this, 749 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: or that he doesn't look like the same quarterback. He 750 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 2: looks to me like his confidence is shot. He looks 751 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 2: like he's regressing, even though again the stats would tell 752 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 2: you that they that he had a good rookie year. 753 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: I think you have to go the offensive savant, the 754 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur type, this guy type, you know, all the guys, 755 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 2: the Sean McVay, whatever, and you hope that the guy 756 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 2: is not just a great play caller, but he's a 757 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: great leader, he's a great leader of men. Whatever. I 758 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 2: think you have to go offensive guy. By the way, 759 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: I think Mike McCarthy would be as I don't think 760 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: he'd be a disaster there. He just want to be 761 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: my first choice by any stretch. But what do you 762 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: think the Bears should do with this vacancy, assuming that 763 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 2: all of the viable candidates would be realistically interested in 764 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:46,919 Speaker 2: the job. 765 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: Exactly what you just said, I mean, I am. I'm 766 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: in favor of Vrabel wherever he would land. I know 767 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 3: he wants to go somewhere with a quarterback. But I 768 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 3: told you when we hosted for Jason Smith and Mike 769 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 3: Harmon on New Year Night that I felt like Verbel 770 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm predicting. I think Verbel's going to be with New England, 771 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,240 Speaker 3: and that would mean Mayo is out of a job, 772 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: and there's issues there, and I wish he would get 773 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: more time. But I also think if the Patriots want 774 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 3: to bring back Verbel, now's the time because he's going 775 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: to take a job in this cycle, and he's so 776 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 3: beloved there and I think he fits with the Mantra 777 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 3: in the way that they want to build, and they've 778 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: got what he wants. So let's say he's out right, 779 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: and if you want a quarterback, you could go there. 780 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 3: But I think it has to be a dynamic offensive mind. 781 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 3: It's got to be whoever it is that can get 782 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams from zero to one hundred the Lamborghini that 783 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams is capable of being the one that can 784 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 3: handle that and drive it the best. Put that guy 785 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: on the sidelines, and you have to get this right 786 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 3: this time, or I think you may irreparably break Caleb Williams. 787 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 3: This is as important to hire as that franchise we'll 788 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: ever see because of the quarterback and because of the 789 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: position that he's been in, because you foolishly back Matt 790 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 3: Eberflus this past year and set him back. It doesn't 791 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: necessarily have to be the most experienced guy, but it's 792 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 3: got to be a guy that has that right touch, 793 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 3: that mix when it comes to Caleb Williams, and I 794 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 3: don't know who the answer is. I mean Ben Johnson. 795 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 3: I don't think it's too big a job for him. 796 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 3: I have no idea whether it's too big a job 797 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 3: for him, but I know what he's done offensively, So 798 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: you look at that and you know, at the very worst, 799 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 3: if you get Vrabel would have to come in with 800 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 3: the right offensive coordinator. But that offense must be high octane, 801 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: ready to fire next year. And it's got to be 802 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 3: all about building Caleb williams confidence back, because if you 803 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 3: don't get this right, the ceiling is what Trevor Lawrence 804 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 3: is in Jacksonville right now. And I don't think that 805 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 3: is what Chicago fans want or what they signed up for, 806 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 3: and it's not what Caleb Williams wants either. So whatever 807 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 3: is going to unlock Caleb Williams. That's what you do, 808 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 3: and that is not a culture setting Mike McCarthy. I'm 809 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 3: not saying McCarthy should never coach in the league. Again, 810 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 3: I'm saying this is a horrible idea in terms of 811 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 3: where he could land. There is no reason why Mike 812 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 3: McCarthy would be the thing that would make Caleb Williams 813 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 3: shine next year. 814 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: Sigaruth everything he said, and I think the most important 815 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 2: thing that you said, and this is concerning, is the 816 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,720 Speaker 2: fact that, in my opinion, exactly what you just said 817 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 2: irreparable harm, irreparable damage to Caleb Williams. He can't survive 818 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: and I don't mean literally, I mean metaphorically obviously can't 819 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: survive another bad coaching higher because you know, you get 820 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: into year three or four, year five, you are who 821 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 2: you are. Then you just become you know, fill in 822 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 2: the bland. I mean, whoever. Seriously, we're talking about Sam 823 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 2: Darnold right now, because he's such an exception to the rule. 824 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: It's like, once a guy is lost, you never get 825 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 2: him back. 826 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 3: And he and Geno Smith both are probably two of 827 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 3: the best examples we've seen. Yeah, that's fair, and there's 828 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 3: very rare examples. 829 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 830 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, hour two Tours Martin, Fox Sports Radio. 831 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the tirac dot Com studios 832 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: tirerack dot Com. We'll help you get there an unmatched selection, 833 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten 834 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 2: thousand recommended installers tirerack dot com the way tire buying 835 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: should be er. 836 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 4: Torus Jason Martin. We are taking you up till two 837 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 4: a m. 838 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: Eastern time, So two more hours with us before Bernie 839 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 2: Fratto follows us here on Fox Sports Radio. Jymart So 840 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 2: you mentioned it last hour, by the way, to say 841 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 2: er to just get you caught up on all of 842 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 2: the all of the big news from the day in 843 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: the NFL if you missed it. The Baltimore Ravens easily 844 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 2: took care of the Cincinnati Bengals. They have clinched the 845 00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: AFC North title and the number three overall seed. 846 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 4: We do not know who they will play yet. 847 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: Because the Cincinnati Bengals beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Steelers 848 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 2: are in position to get the five unless the Chargers win. 849 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 2: If the Chargers win, they get the five, the Steelers 850 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 2: would fall to the six spot, and they would face 851 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens again in the opening round of the playoffs. Oh, 852 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: by the way, on top of that, Cincinnati Bengals. They win, 853 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: but still need both the Miami Dolphins and Denver Broncos 854 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 2: to lose on Sunday. If both teams win, Denver gets 855 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 2: in over the Miami Dolphins. So that's everything going on 856 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 2: in the world of the NFL. And we'll get back 857 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: to the rest of Week eighteen here in just a 858 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: little bit. But do you want to switch gears back 859 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: to college football? Jmart You and I had the privilege 860 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: of filling in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon on 861 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 2: New Year's Night, and unfortunately, and it is unfortunate, you know, 862 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 2: there was no Sugar Bowl the night we were on, 863 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,439 Speaker 2: of course, because of the tragedy in New Orleans. Said 864 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,959 Speaker 2: it a million times that night, I'll reiterated thoughts without 865 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 2: obviously all of the families that were impacted by the 866 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: terrorist attack in New Orleans, as well as of course 867 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 2: the city of New Orleans itself. Thank you to all 868 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: the first responders police who kept everybody safe. I know 869 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 2: how hard they worked to just get the city back 870 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: to normal. Let alone get a college football playoff game 871 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 2: going twenty four hours or so after that attack. 872 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 4: The game did go on, thankfully without a hitch. 873 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: And I want to talk about that game, j Mart, 874 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: because Notre Dame does take care of business. They do 875 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 2: beat Georgia. Final score, I believe was twenty three to ten. 876 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 2: I should have it pulled up here, but yeah, so 877 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 2: Notre Dame wins. Just your immediate reaction, you know. And 878 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 2: I want to talk about a big picture of the 879 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,280 Speaker 2: college football playoff. But that was the most recent game. 880 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 2: That was Thursday afternoon. Notre Dame beats Georgia twenty three 881 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 2: to ten. Shit mention, just really quick, j Mark for 882 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,840 Speaker 2: people who missed it or somehow don't know all the details. 883 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 4: Weird game. 884 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: It was three to three with about thirty seconds to 885 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: go in the first half. 886 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 4: Notre Dame kicks a field goal. 887 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 2: Georgia, deep in their own territory, decides to pass, the 888 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 2: ball is stripped. Notre Dame scores a touchdown one play 889 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 2: later to make it ten to three. Then they returned 890 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 2: the opening kick of the second half to make it 891 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 2: seventeen to three, and basically the game was there. But 892 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: Notre Dame wins. It advances, No play Penn State on Thursday. 893 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 2: Ohio State plays Texas on Friday. But your thoughts on 894 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 2: Notre Dame and George, I. 895 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 3: Mean, you just laid it out the way that the 896 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 3: first half ended, and then the kick return, which Notre 897 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 3: Dame had struggled with doing all year long. But it 898 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 3: shows up at the right time. That was a game, 899 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 3: and those are mistakes you can't make. Putting your quarterback 900 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 3: in that situation, putting gunnerstocked in that spot late in 901 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what Bobo was thinking, the offensive coordinator, 902 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 3: and I'm not sure why Kirby Smart didn't overrule it, 903 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 3: because it just seemed like such a unnecessary choice, just 904 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 3: a bad risk, and especially against the defense that had 905 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 3: been getting after him and forcing him into things, and 906 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 3: he was I mean, he had played pretty well to 907 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: that point, but there was just no need. There was 908 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 3: no reason to think that they were going to go 909 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 3: score right there against Notre Dame's defense. You just take 910 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 3: the six to three and get into the locker room, 911 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 3: reatol a little bit, do whatever you need to do 912 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 3: in terms of adjustments, and come back out there and 913 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 3: play the second half. The momentum that came from that play. 914 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 3: Just never Georgia was never able to really fight back 915 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 3: into it. They had an opportunity there late in the 916 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: third quarter where it got interesting for a bit, but 917 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 3: Notre Dame, made fewer mistakes, did the right stuff, and 918 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 3: then you have Freeman getting creative in the fourth quarter. 919 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 3: That was just an amazing That whole thing was amazing, 920 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 3: and to get Georgia to bite right there essentially ended 921 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 3: the game. You don't know what might happen if you 922 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 3: have to punt the football there if you don't get it, 923 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 3: but just a just brilliant strategy by Marcus Freeman and 924 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: his staff. They they seemed like they were more polished, 925 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 3: They seemed like they were more ready for that moment, 926 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 3: and they just had guys that stepped up. Riley Leonard 927 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 3: got that key first down, which is gonna be a 928 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 3: you know, a jiff forever most likely and a meme forever, 929 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 3: and just showed his toughness in that moment when they 930 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 3: had to get a couple of yards, they found a 931 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,760 Speaker 3: way to do it. It was a grit and grind 932 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 3: kind of game, but it was very Ungeorgia like in 933 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 3: terms of the mistakes made at the end of the 934 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 3: half and giving up that kick return, but it was 935 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 3: not on Georgia. Like in that you had Bell with 936 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 3: a wide open would have been a touchdown, just bounces 937 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 3: right off his hands. The thirty sixth drop of the 938 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 3: season for a Georgia uh, for a Georgia wide receiver. 939 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 3: Just that team. We talked about it as we watched 940 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 3: them during the year. They just weren't all that good. 941 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 3: Like I got caught up and still thought, it's still Georgia. 942 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 3: I'm not sure Notre Dame is ready for this. They were, 943 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 3: they were, They were the better team that day. They 944 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 3: took advantage that got the balances to go their way, 945 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 3: which many times that determines wins and losses, and they 946 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 3: deserve to move on. And I'm really excited about the 947 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 3: matchup because I think Notre Dame in Penn State is 948 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 3: just a really intriguing First off, there's a rivalry, it 949 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 3: gets renewed here. But the big thing is just both defenses, 950 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 3: the way the offenses move, like that's a real chess 951 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 3: match of a game. And both those organizations right now, 952 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 3: both of those universities, both of those programs seem to 953 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 3: be in a really good spot. And I think that 954 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 3: that's the kind of matchup you want. The final four 955 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 3: in the College Football Playoff turned out to be a 956 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 3: little different in terms of the SEC representation, but the 957 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 3: transfer portal and NIL has changed absolutely anything and everything, 958 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 3: and I'll leave it here. Notre Dame a lot of 959 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 3: the key contributors in that win were guys that they 960 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 3: poached out of the portal. They did a great job 961 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 3: in the offseason, and those guys came through for them 962 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 3: in the biggest game of their year. And I think 963 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 3: that the other thing is we should not get caught 964 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 3: up too much in early season blemishes, as weird as 965 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,280 Speaker 3: they might be. If a team then goes for months 966 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 3: without losing, maybe you should forgive them for the NIU game. 967 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 3: Because the team that lost to NIU was not the 968 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 3: team that we saw for the remainder of the season. 969 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 3: And I think some people just left them for dead 970 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 3: that moment and would never pick them back up, as 971 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 3: opposed to continuing to watch their season. 972 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe on the back on the other side of 973 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 2: the break, we'll talk a little bit. We'll preview the 974 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 2: two games that are Thursday and Friday, but I want 975 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 2: to stick here. First of all, I agree and one 976 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: of the reasons that I did actually pick Notre Dame 977 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 2: to win this game is because Georgia was the exact 978 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,919 Speaker 2: opposite of Notre Dame. Listen, you can argue about five 979 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: star this. You know, Kirby's been there before like it, 980 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: and it's not like a knock on Georgia. But I 981 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 2: kept going back to is that, like you said, with 982 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, they I don't know if they progressively got 983 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 2: quote unquote better every game, but they really haven't played 984 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 2: a bad game since that Northern Illinois game, which was 985 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 2: literally week two. Doesn't excuse the loss, but in this 986 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 2: twelve team playoff ear it really doesn't matter. And I 987 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 2: go back to Georgia and it's just, yes, they beat 988 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 2: Texas in the SEC championship game, but also let's not 989 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 2: forget the week before that they played Georgia in an 990 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: eight overtime game and easily could have and maybe should 991 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. Yes, I apologize Georgia Tech, and it was 992 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: at home, George ch had a mobile quarterback, whatever. But 993 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 2: I thought this Georgia team, like you said, I thought 994 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 2: was flawed all year, and I thought it showed up 995 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 2: at the worst possible time. I know you can't account 996 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 2: for losing your starting quarterback, you know, in the SEC 997 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 2: Championship game. But I just I don't know that it mattered. 998 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 2: I thought Gunter Stockton played fine. I didn't think it 999 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: was a quarterback issue really quick. You know, I think 1000 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: we got to have the conversation that everybody in college 1001 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 2: football is having right now, which is what do you 1002 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 2: make about the SEC? Because listen and I think this 1003 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 2: is all part of the bigger picture discourse of the 1004 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,839 Speaker 2: postseason in college football. You know, SMU gets blown out 1005 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 2: in the opening weekend, Indiana gets blown out, and you 1006 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 2: have these Alabama fans screaming that they should have been 1007 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 2: in and South Carolina fans are mad, and Old miss 1008 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 2: fans are mad, and what proceeds to happen is well, Alabama. 1009 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't say they got destroyed by Michigan, 1010 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 2: but they lost to I know Michigan played better towards 1011 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 2: the end. They beat Ohio State, but they still did 1012 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,759 Speaker 2: lose to Michigan as a double digit favorite, by the way, 1013 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 2: after losing twice as a double digit favorite during the 1014 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 2: regular season. This is Alabama South Carolina who finished nine 1015 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 2: to three and believe they were in the playoff picture 1016 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 2: lost to Illinois in their bowl game. Now, Old Miss 1017 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,480 Speaker 2: did win, but you also had Tennessee get destroyed on 1018 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 2: the road. Maybe Ohio State's just better than we realized 1019 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 2: at the time Texas struggle with Arizona State. What do 1020 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 2: you make of the state of the SEC? Because I'll 1021 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 2: be real, is that listen, you know it. I believe 1022 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 2: that it has been okay in previous years to basically 1023 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 2: acknowledge that this is definitely the best league whatever. But 1024 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 2: also watched all these teams all year and it's like, 1025 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, like I never watched out like I 1026 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 2: was one of these people. I never felt like Alabama 1027 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,760 Speaker 2: was somehow screwed by getting left out of the playoff. 1028 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 2: I never felt like Old Miss was screwed by somehow 1029 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 2: getting left out of the playoff. And I just bring 1030 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: it up because I think this postseason, I know, these 1031 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 2: they're meaningless bowl games. 1032 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,240 Speaker 4: Whatever outside of the playoff. 1033 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 2: I think this bowl season has kind of proved like 1034 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 2: the SEC at least for this year, and we'll see 1035 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 2: what happens next year the year after. 1036 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 4: Like we can't just default to oh. 1037 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 2: This is definitely the best best league and these teams 1038 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,560 Speaker 2: deserve the benefit of the doubt. I think the committee 1039 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 2: is actually largely came out looking fine based on the 1040 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 2: teams that they not only picked, but that they left out, 1041 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 2: in large part because I just don't think the SEC 1042 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,799 Speaker 2: was quite as good as a lot of people think. 1043 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,800 Speaker 3: I think I submitted a topic to us three quarters 1044 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 3: of the way through the season where I wanted us 1045 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,759 Speaker 3: to talk about whether or not It's like, are we 1046 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 3: sure the SEC is great? I remember absolutely, like good, yes, 1047 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 3: but great? I don't know, because yes, it seemed like 1048 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 3: they had these big time programs doing big time things, 1049 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 3: but they were also beating up on each other. And 1050 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 3: we used to do this with a Big Ten where 1051 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 3: we wouldn't give the Big Ten credit for those kind 1052 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 3: of wins because they were beating each other and we 1053 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 3: weren't never sure how good they actually were. And what 1054 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 3: generally happened in those circumstances is they would go play 1055 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 3: some SEC or at the time even a Big twelve 1056 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 3: team and get absolutely demolished. And because they were slower 1057 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 3: or something had changed outside of Ohio State, That's generally 1058 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 3: what was happening most of the time. And I just 1059 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 3: think I think it proved out to be right I mean, 1060 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 3: I do the show out of Nashville. My wife's a 1061 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 3: diehard SEC fan, My father in law is an SEC crad. Like, 1062 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a big time deal. But at the 1063 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,959 Speaker 3: same time, like objectively, the SEC wasn't all that great 1064 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 3: this year. They were competitive and deep, and there were 1065 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 3: dramatic games and all this, but I'm not shocked that 1066 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,280 Speaker 3: this has happened this year. But I think the biggest 1067 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 3: issue for the SEC go going forward is that the 1068 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 3: playing field and the playing rules have changed in terms 1069 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 3: of what they're going to be able to do on 1070 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 3: their bench. The difference between this Georgia team and other 1071 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 3: Georgia teams in the past is the depth is not 1072 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 3: the same. They still have a great amount of talent, 1073 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 3: but they don't have the ten to fifteen guys on 1074 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 3: the bench that are also NFL prospects quite to the 1075 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 3: degree that they used to, because those guys are sitting 1076 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 3: somewhere else, playing in other schools and they're able to 1077 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 3: make money doing so, and they have different like the 1078 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 3: goals are different. You don't have to go through X 1079 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 3: program to get to the NFL, and you also don't 1080 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 3: don't have to go through X program to earn a 1081 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 3: nice living while you're in college at this point, so 1082 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 3: that changes it around. So the transfer portal becomes instrumental. 1083 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 3: And let's be real, ETN didn't prove out to be 1084 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 3: as big a deal for Georgia as maybe some had thought. 1085 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,840 Speaker 3: And you look at what Notre Dame was able to 1086 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 3: pull off, and sometimes it work better than others. It's 1087 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 3: going to be a system that it's going to be 1088 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 3: a crapshoot to some degree. Some guys are going to 1089 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 3: be can't miss, but I mean ole miss and what 1090 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,839 Speaker 3: they pulled off, well, I mean they end up beating 1091 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 3: Duke in a bowl game. I don't know if that 1092 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 3: was money well spent or not when it when you 1093 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,480 Speaker 3: really look at it at the end, but what the 1094 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 3: SEC was able to do, and this is why Saban 1095 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 3: got out because Saban didn't want to do this. And 1096 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,760 Speaker 3: they're gonna be other guys across the country in different 1097 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 3: in different roles, in terms of head coaches, they're not 1098 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 3: going to want to do this either, which is why 1099 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 3: I don't really understand why Belichick is jumping into this, 1100 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 3: because there's nothing about what he's going to be asked 1101 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 3: to do that feels like something Bill Belichick would want 1102 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 3: to do at his age or even twenty years ago. 1103 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,920 Speaker 3: So that that's that part of it baffles me. But 1104 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest thing for the SEC is 1105 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 3: they're not going to be able to stockpile depth three 1106 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 3: deep with NFL talent because those guys are not going 1107 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 3: to wait a round for their turn because they no 1108 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 3: longer have to. 1109 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 4: They no longer have do uh. 1110 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 2: I also think, by the way, the Belichick point is 1111 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 2: so on point, Like I love this Belichick point of well, 1112 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,399 Speaker 2: you know, you just buy players. Now it's like, yeah, 1113 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 2: you know who else has money besides North Carolina? 1114 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,800 Speaker 4: Literally everybody? 1115 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like, you know, it's like at a 1116 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 2: certain point there has to be another reason. And by 1117 00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 2: the way, for a lot of kids, it will be, hey, 1118 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 2: you have a chance to play for you know, a 1119 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 2: Hall of fame, maybe the greatest coach that's ever walked 1120 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 2: the face to here. But for a lot of kids 1121 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, well, you know, I'm a quarterback, I'm 1122 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 2: a wide receiver. 1123 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 4: Is this really the best spot for me? Or whatever? 1124 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 2: I don't want to play for this guy, or I 1125 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 2: don't like this guy, or he's hard, whatever, This isn't 1126 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 2: a Belichick conversation, but I think it's a great point 1127 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 2: about where we are in college football. The other thing 1128 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 2: I'll say is this is like, you know, as far 1129 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 2: as the you know, as far as like the state 1130 00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 2: of things, I think there's the portal. And like I 1131 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,080 Speaker 2: do think NIL is a thing from the perspective that 1132 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 2: I know. I just said, Oh, everybody doesn't just buy players, 1133 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 2: but like everybody does have money, and I think it's 1134 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 2: the combination of things. Like I was just thinking about this, right, 1135 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 2: is like if there was no NIL. This is just 1136 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 2: a very simple basic way to look at it. If 1137 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 2: there was no nil, Bryce Underwood, the number one recruit 1138 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 2: in America, would be going to LSU next year. 1139 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,320 Speaker 4: Yep, but he's going to Michigan. 1140 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 2: Riola was a little bit different because I think he 1141 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 2: wanted to play this year but would have gone to 1142 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 2: Georgia in a different universe. Now he's at Nebraska. Like 1143 00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 2: that's just two very easy examples. The best quarterback in 1144 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 2: last year's class was committed to an SEC school, he 1145 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 2: ends up in the Big Ten. The best quarterback in 1146 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 2: this year's class committed to a SEC school, ends up 1147 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 2: in the Big Ten, and I just think that. I 1148 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 2: just think the combination of the portal. Obviously, everybody wants 1149 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 2: to play, as you said, and I do think like 1150 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 2: the NIL thing, like it is a thing, right is 1151 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 2: everybody has money now, everybody's spending money now by the way, 1152 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 2: these big ten schools, and I know that in theory, 1153 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 2: with all these rules that are supposedly changing, you're gonna 1154 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 2: you know, everybody's gonna have a cap and there's only 1155 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 2: so much you could pay. I don't know how that's 1156 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 2: all gonna work, because I don't think you can limit 1157 00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,759 Speaker 2: how much someone can make on a free market, on 1158 00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 2: an open market. But I just bring it up be 1159 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 2: cause if, like, if we get deeper into this NIL 1160 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 2: world and it is still about highest bidder or about 1161 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 2: having money and resources, you know, it is worth noting 1162 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 2: the Alabama ad just came out a few weeks ago 1163 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 2: and basically said, we need your help because we're behind 1164 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 2: in NIL. Same time, you know, Michigan clearly has money 1165 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 2: that they've never spent before that they're willing to spend. 1166 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,920 Speaker 2: We know about what Ohio State's been on their roster 1167 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 2: this year, Penn State. You know, I haven't heard any 1168 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 2: big NIL things with them. But like for people wh 1169 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,040 Speaker 2: don't know, I was thinking about this week, like they 1170 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,720 Speaker 2: have literally the biggest alumni base of any school in America, 1171 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 2: like a Notre Dame, by the way, obviously has a 1172 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 2: lot of high level boosters. So I just bring it 1173 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 2: up because it's the portal. But if it's NIL two, 1174 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 2: now Notre Dame doesn't have to feel guilty about paying 1175 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 2: players when maybe other schools were ten years ago and 1176 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,720 Speaker 2: now and Notre Dame want to do it, or Michigan 1177 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 2: or whoever. It's like now it's just, you know, kids 1178 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 2: want to play. Everybody's got money. And I do think 1179 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 2: that in any given year, the SEC might be the 1180 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 2: best conference. But I think that at least for now, 1181 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 2: of just defaulting to, oh, it's absolutely the best and 1182 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 2: nobody's even allowed to question it. Obviously, we can't be 1183 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 2: doing that no more. 1184 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is no doubt and there is no coincidence 1185 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 3: that this Notre Dame team has a real look at 1186 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,960 Speaker 3: a championship this year, unlike any year previous, even once 1187 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 3: when they've been in the title game. I like this 1188 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 3: team better than any of the teams that have come before. 1189 00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 3: There's no coincidence that this is happening right as these 1190 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 3: rules have changed, right is the nil and all this 1191 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 3: stuff has changed to where Notre Dame knows that they 1192 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 3: can do this and it's all above board, just like 1193 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 3: it is everywhere else. They no longer have to play 1194 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 3: the same game that they had to play for years 1195 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 3: and years, and they've got a head coach that has 1196 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,160 Speaker 3: built the culture. And we said this at the time 1197 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 3: when he got the gig, there was something about like 1198 00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 3: watching him and watching him talk to those guys and 1199 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 3: listening to the podcast with the Notre Dame players talking 1200 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 3: about Marcus Freeman where you just knew it's like, all right, 1201 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 3: that's a good hire. I feel the same way, by 1202 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 3: the way about Sharon Moore. I know we'll get to break, 1203 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 3: but just watch the way that that team played for 1204 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 3: more down the stretch and the aggressiveness and of course 1205 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 3: to win over Ohio State. Like, I think those are 1206 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 3: two guys right now where it's just like, Yeah, you 1207 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 3: didn't go out and go hire the flashiest name. You 1208 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 3: hired the guy in the building that already had proven something, 1209 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,520 Speaker 3: and you've let them go out there, and I think 1210 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,080 Speaker 3: they've both already paid dividends. With Freeman certainly ahead right now, 1211 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 3: but he's had a couple of years. But I mean 1212 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 3: this Notre Dame team, They're gonna be a tough out 1213 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 3: for anybody the way that they play, because they're so 1214 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 3: sound and they're so physical. 1215 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 4: I'll tell you. 1216 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 2: What we'll discuss next. Will they be a tough out 1217 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 2: for Penn State. Let's look ahead to the two games 1218 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday of this week. Erin Torris, Jason Martin. 1219 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. 1220 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 2: Erin Torris, Jason Martin, broadcasting live from Thetireraq dot Com studios. 1221 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 4: By the way, football fans, be. 1222 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 2: Sure tuned into Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning beginning 1223 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 2: at ten am Eastern seven Pacific for Countdown to Kickoff 1224 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 2: presented by bet MGM, Brian No, Jeff Schwartz, a professional 1225 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 2: better Bill Krackenberger will have you covered three hours before kickoff. 1226 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 2: Every Sunday morning, listen to Countdown to Kickoff presented by 1227 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 2: bet MGM. Right here on Fox Sports Radio and the 1228 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 1229 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 4: Gonna come Back. 1230 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 2: We are gonna talk about the semi finals of the 1231 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 2: college football playoffs set for Thursday and Friday night before 1232 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:27,040 Speaker 2: we do tho. 1233 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,720 Speaker 4: Let's toss it over the news desk Steve de Sager. 1234 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,439 Speaker 2: What in the world is trending at twelve twenty eight 1235 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 2: Eastern time? Tell us, please, let's update the late NBA game. 1236 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 6: Kawhi Leonard is back from the knee injury for his 1237 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,760 Speaker 6: season debut, and the Clippers are leading the Atlanta Hawks 1238 00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 6: one eleven to ninety with about seven and a half 1239 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 6: minutes to go. Leonard with twelve points in nineteen minutes 1240 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,479 Speaker 6: of play. Earlier, Detroit beat Minnesota one nineteen one oh five, 1241 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 6: even though Anthony Edwards scored fifty three points, and in 1242 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 6: late night NHL action in Vegas, Golden Nights up three 1243 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 6: to one on Buffalo with two minutes to play. Cincinnati 1244 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 6: Bengals have won five in a row. Not dead yet. 1245 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 6: They finished with a winning record nine and eight after 1246 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 6: winning at Pittsburgh tonight in the cold nineteen to seventeen 1247 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 6: about twenty degrees in Pittsburgh for this one this evening. 1248 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,160 Speaker 6: The Bengals led ten to nothing in the first quarter 1249 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,720 Speaker 6: and they won without running back Chase Brown. He was 1250 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 6: out with a sprained ankle. Cincinnati needed a win tonight. 1251 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 6: They still need losses on Sunday by Denver and Miami 1252 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 6: to get the last playoff spot in the AFC. Baltimore 1253 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 6: had a good day. The Ravens clinch the AFC North 1254 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 6: title and the number three seed with a win over 1255 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 6: Cleveland thirty five to ten. Ravens finished twelve and five. 1256 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 6: This was a bad loss for Pittsburgh, dropped four in 1257 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 6: a row. They may not be the five seed. They 1258 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,919 Speaker 6: may have to go to Baltimore next weekend to open 1259 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 6: the postseason. The Chargers finish up their regular season tomorrow 1260 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 6: at Las Vegas. A Chargers win Sunday means they'll be 1261 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 6: opening the playoffs at Houston next weekend. In college football, 1262 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 6: Buffalo won the Bahamas Bowl twenty six to seven over Liberty. 1263 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 6: Attendance was four thousand, six hundred for that game and 1264 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 6: they were in the Bahamas. 1265 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 4: Would you go to the Bahamas Bowl? 1266 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 6: I don't know if I would, yeah, or did you 1267 01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 6: even know that it was being played? 1268 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 4: It is weird, I mean, first of all, and not. 1269 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 6: A good field if you saw any of it. 1270 01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 2: Well, just an eleven am Eastern on a Saturday, Like 1271 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 2: it's like that feels like an eleven am Eastern. December 1272 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 2: twenty first, kind of game. I don't know about the 1273 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 2: Saturday after New Year's But what do I know about 1274 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 2: bowl season? 1275 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 6: Well, TV does dictate everything. Liberty was six of twenty 1276 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 6: one passing for eighty yards, three turnovers, and down twenty 1277 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 6: six nothing in the fourth quarter. Buffalo wins twenty six 1278 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 6: to seven. It scored on four field goals and an 1279 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 6: interception return for a TV also a long touchdown run. 1280 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 6: A reminder of the playoff semi finals start Thursday Penn 1281 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 6: State against Notre Dame at the Orange Bowl, and then Friday, 1282 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 6: Ohio State versus Texas at the Cotton Bowl. The championship 1283 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 6: game in college football is Monday, the twentieth Hideki Matsuyama 1284 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 6: leads by one stroke in Hawaii is the golf seat 1285 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 6: and begins He's ahead on Colin Moricawa. They each shot 1286 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 6: third Round sixty two's NHL Montreal in a shootout one 1287 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 6: at Colorado, two to one. 1288 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 4: Back to you, thank you very. 1289 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 2: Much, Steve to Sager To Sega will be back with 1290 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 2: us in just one moment to give us his extended 1291 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 2: update at the bottom of the hour. We do it 1292 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 2: every week. Round twelve forty five. To Saga will be 1293 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 2: back in just one minute. But this is Fox Sports 1294 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 2: Radio er towards Jason Martin again. Take it up till 1295 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 2: two am Eastern. Bernie Fratto will follow us with the 1296 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 2: conclusion of the Bahamas Ball j Martin. It means that 1297 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,439 Speaker 2: we do, in fact have just three college football games left, 1298 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 2: two semi finals and a final. Tell you what, schedules 1299 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 2: a little quirky this week, to say the least Thursday Friday. That's, 1300 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 2: of course, because next week we will have NFL playoff 1301 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 2: games all day Saturday. And obviously the big news is 1302 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,040 Speaker 2: that that Notre Dame Penn State game will be on 1303 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 2: Thursday night. Actually, somebody tried, I don't know if it 1304 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,480 Speaker 2: was ESPN or the CF try to see if we 1305 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 2: could switch, you know, switch game days because obviously Notre Dame, 1306 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,160 Speaker 2: you know, the Sugar Bowl got pushed back a day, 1307 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 2: meaning that Penn State basically has two extra days rest 1308 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 2: going into that game. But the game will go on 1309 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 2: Thursday night, seven thirty eastern, the Capitol One Orange Bowl. 1310 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 2: Let's start with that one, Notre Dame facing Penn State. 1311 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 2: I think it's interesting despite the despite the short time 1312 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 2: the short time off for Notre Dame, Notre Dame is 1313 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 2: actually a one and a half point favorite going into 1314 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 2: this one against Penn State. Just your thoughts on the 1315 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,160 Speaker 2: Orange Bowl, which is again Thursday night. Notre Dame Penn 1316 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 2: State the first semi final in the College Football Playoff. 1317 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I could see it going either way. I 1318 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,959 Speaker 3: just think it's likely to be very good. They both 1319 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 3: can run it with multiple backs. You've got two stellar defenses, 1320 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 3: maybe the best secondary in the country with Notre Dame, 1321 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 3: and you've got some absolute beasts for Penn State. Health 1322 01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 3: is going to be a big concern there, certainly for them. 1323 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 3: Riley Leonard more mobile than Drew Aller. I like Aler's 1324 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 3: arm better. I like his ability to throw the football 1325 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 3: better than I do. Riley Leonard certainly so. And then 1326 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 3: you look at Franklin and his staff or Freeman and 1327 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 3: his staff. Both of them are dialing up pretty well. 1328 01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 3: Right now. I think I favored Notre Dame, but I'm 1329 01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 3: not sure it's and I think I could switch back 1330 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,840 Speaker 3: and forth because I really have been impressed with Penn State, 1331 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 3: and I want to give them credit for that and 1332 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,640 Speaker 3: not just overlook the quality of opponent that maybe they've 1333 01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 3: faced compared to Notre Dame. Going through Georgia in New 1334 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,680 Speaker 3: Orleans and all of what they've done. Like I'm torn, 1335 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 3: Like I even want to tell you now you know 1336 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 3: what I'm thinking Penn State. But now I said Notre 1337 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 3: Dame first, So I guess I'm gonna stick with them 1338 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 3: for now. I think that they can beat you more 1339 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 3: different ways, just because Leonard's athleticism gives you another dimension 1340 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 3: that they're going to have to account for defensively with 1341 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 3: Penn State, that might be able to open up the game. 1342 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 3: And I think that this is the kind of game 1343 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 3: the hinges on which team protects the football better and 1344 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 3: doesn't make the key mistake. It could be one of 1345 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 3: those games where whoever gets the bounces really turns out 1346 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 3: to be the victor. But I would be very surprised 1347 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 3: if either one of these teams is able to pull 1348 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:14,919 Speaker 3: away from the other one. 1349 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be honest, I'm a little torn on that 1350 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 2: one myself because what I it's tough because like what 1351 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 2: I think we saw, you know, like we saw that 1352 01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 2: you know, Riley Leonard is a little bit limited, you 1353 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 2: know in the passing game, and. 1354 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 3: Like I'm no, I want I think Penn State's gonna 1355 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 3: win the game, and that's what I told you. I'm 1356 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,680 Speaker 3: just it's gonna happen. It might happen five times during 1357 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 3: this segment, but I'm gonna go with my initial gut, 1358 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 3: which was that Penn State would win. 1359 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,959 Speaker 2: Well, no, and I think listen, I think I'm torn 1360 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 2: just like you are, because I think Notre Dame's probably 1361 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,919 Speaker 2: a little bit more of the quote unquote fundamentally sound team. 1362 01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 2: I think that's the term that you used when we 1363 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,520 Speaker 2: were talking about them, you know, in the Georgia game. 1364 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,240 Speaker 2: But first of all, State, I do think the two 1365 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,920 Speaker 2: extra days matters. Now a dual Carter, I don't know 1366 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 2: if anything's official, but I'm pretty sure he's planning on 1367 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 2: playing in that game. And so that was the key 1368 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,680 Speaker 2: injury for for Penn State. But you also have to 1369 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,200 Speaker 2: think too, like and I don't want to oversell it, 1370 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 2: but probably a little bit healthier after Boise versus a 1371 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,320 Speaker 2: Georgia game that was two days later in New Orleans. 1372 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 4: So I think that's that's a factor. 1373 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 2: And I'm with you, is I I I just think 1374 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 2: that for me, I don't know that I have a 1375 01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,520 Speaker 2: strong opinion on this yet. And guess what we got 1376 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 2: a we got five days so I'm not gonna make 1377 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,760 Speaker 2: an official pick right now. 1378 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 4: But to me, well, I mean, listen. 1379 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 3: You don't I'm not. I'm not telling you put you 1380 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 3: out on them. I mean I think that's what my parents. 1381 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 3: This is perfout in fourth grade, all this peer pressure, 1382 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,640 Speaker 3: O Mike. Now, honestly, this is this is perfect for 1383 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,840 Speaker 3: this game, because this is what I want. Like, I'm 1384 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 3: going into this one really just conflicted as to how 1385 01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 3: I feel. Like. I think both teams definitely have the 1386 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,520 Speaker 3: ability to win the game, and I think it should 1387 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 3: be close and very dramatic and very physical well played. 1388 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 3: I just I think it's going to be a really 1389 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,440 Speaker 3: fun game to watch well. 1390 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 2: And I will say this too, I think you know this, 1391 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 2: but before we even get to Ohio State Texas, cause 1392 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 2: I think we both have the same opinion on that one, 1393 01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 2: let me give a shout out and let me just 1394 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 2: take an l on something. 1395 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 3: Is. 1396 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 2: I know that the results haven't been great, and I 1397 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 2: know that we do need some tweaking. 1398 01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 4: I think we all know. 1399 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 2: Most notably probably that the four automatic buys should not 1400 01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 2: just necessarily go to conference champs whatever. But what I 1401 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 2: will say is is that I don't I wasn't in 1402 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 2: love with the notion of a twelve team college football 1403 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 2: playoff because I really felt like, Okay, most years it's 1404 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 2: a team or two that's really capable of winning it. 1405 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 2: But I will say this was the argument, is it 1406 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 2: gets settled on the field. And yes, you could argue 1407 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,680 Speaker 2: Penn State's path was easier than this team and should 1408 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 2: Oregon have had to play Ohio State and whatever. But 1409 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,560 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you know, I can't 1410 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 2: figure out exactly who would have been in and who 1411 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,800 Speaker 2: would have been out, you know, under the previous scenario, 1412 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 2: but like some of these teams would not have been in, 1413 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,560 Speaker 2: like Ohio State or Penn State would not have been in, 1414 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 2: probably Ohio State, maybe Penn State as well. You know, again, 1415 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,800 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly how it would have played out 1416 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,680 Speaker 2: the top four at the end of the season was, 1417 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 2: you know, Oregon, Georgia, Texas and Penn State. Does that 1418 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 2: change in a four team format? I don't know, But 1419 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 2: I just want to give credit because it's like these 1420 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,400 Speaker 2: these four teams would not have been the four team 1421 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 2: in four teams in a four team playoff, and they've 1422 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 2: been able to settle it on the field. Notre Dame 1423 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 2: was able to prove they can beat an SEC team. 1424 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 2: Penn State is winning big games even if it's not 1425 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,560 Speaker 2: the toughest competition. So we'll get to our Georgia or 1426 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 2: we'll get to our Ohio State Texas pick in a 1427 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 2: second Chason. But I just want to say that really quick, 1428 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 2: as somebody who was critical and was saying do we 1429 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 2: really need this twelve team playoff, I'm actually excited that 1430 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 2: we have these matchups because Penn State, Notre Dame, whoever 1431 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 2: is all four of these teams have earned their spot 1432 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,799 Speaker 2: in this position to play for a championship remaining. 1433 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,040 Speaker 3: Couldn't agree more. And I also think that it is 1434 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 3: important again to mention you said it's being decided on 1435 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,480 Speaker 3: the field. Look, we're gonna have a lot of blowouts 1436 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 3: year after year after year, no matter how it's set up. 1437 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,160 Speaker 3: That's just college football. There's gonna be a lot of 1438 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 3: lopsided games, and you're gonna have the same argument made. 1439 01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 3: Well though, we're not twelve teams that could actually win this, 1440 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,800 Speaker 3: so we're only four, Okay, Well then who cares that 1441 01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 3: four can still be the final four? Like we still 1442 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:32,599 Speaker 3: have many more games as a result of this, that 1443 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,680 Speaker 3: have stakes, and we also no longer have to have 1444 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:40,400 Speaker 3: discussions about hypotheticals because now if you earn it, like 1445 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 3: more teams are earning a chance, like Okay, so Indiana 1446 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 3: couldn't win a national championship, and we knew that going in, right, 1447 01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,559 Speaker 3: maybe we felt like or maybe you felt like that, 1448 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 3: and you're in your car listening to us wherever you 1449 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,599 Speaker 3: are right now, you knew Indiana was gonna be able 1450 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,680 Speaker 3: to win a national championship. Yeah, but they get a 1451 01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,559 Speaker 3: chance to prove that, they have to go through it, 1452 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 3: and Okay, they lost the game, and so then you 1453 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,000 Speaker 3: move on from that. Would you have rather them just 1454 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,680 Speaker 3: gone to some bowl game that meant nothing and just 1455 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 3: playing that or would you rather have potentially, you know, 1456 01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 3: at least seen them get a shot they weren't able 1457 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 3: to cash it in. Okay, there will occasionally be teams 1458 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,280 Speaker 3: that will be able to cash it in. But I 1459 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,400 Speaker 3: think that's a much better reality for a team that 1460 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,599 Speaker 3: you deem to have been at least on the CUSP. Right, 1461 01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 3: you're a number, you're a top fifteen team in the country, 1462 01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 3: top twelve team in the country. Maybe you had one 1463 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 3: bad loss on your record or something like that. To 1464 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,360 Speaker 3: also beat everybody on your schedule outside of that one loss, 1465 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 3: and you know all these things is like, I want 1466 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 3: to see that team get an opportunity to end the 1467 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,719 Speaker 3: debate beforehand. We don't need to have the hypothetical debate 1468 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 3: about well what if Indiana I got no, we saw it. 1469 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 3: What if Boise you god? Then what would Jeni? Well know, 1470 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 3: we saw it. What about Aeron? We saw all of this, 1471 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 3: and we almost saw Arizona State do it. They should 1472 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 3: have done it as a matter of act, based on 1473 01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 3: the game in the way that it played out. So 1474 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,960 Speaker 3: you're going to get a lot of blowouts. You just 1475 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 3: kind of have to accept that. That's fine. Like if 1476 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,919 Speaker 3: you as long as this tournament ends with a champion 1477 01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 3: that you deem worthy, then it doesn't matter because that's 1478 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 3: the only purpose of any playoff system is to get 1479 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,680 Speaker 3: to a champion that deserves to be called champion. And 1480 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,559 Speaker 3: there is no doubt that whichever of the four teams 1481 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 3: comes out of this is gonna have then deserved to 1482 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,240 Speaker 3: be called champion. Was the road a little bit tougher, sure, 1483 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 3: but what's wrong with that? I don't think there's anything 1484 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 3: wrong with that. 1485 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:33,679 Speaker 4: No, And you know it's funny. 1486 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 2: I'll just be really quick because I just want a 1487 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 2: quick take on Ohio State Texas. But like I was 1488 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,639 Speaker 2: thinking about it today watching the Bengals. Like, imagine if 1489 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 2: the Bengals get left out of the playoff and somebody 1490 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 2: went on social media and was like, well, you know, 1491 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 2: huh they should have been in over the Steelers because whatever, 1492 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,720 Speaker 2: like you know, fill in the blank. Wise, it's like, no, 1493 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 2: it's stupid, Like the Steelers might not be like every 1494 01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:00,959 Speaker 2: single team in the AFC would rather face the Steelers 1495 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,559 Speaker 2: than the Bengals. It doesn't mean that the Bengals are 1496 01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 2: more deserving of being there than the Steelers. And so, 1497 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 2: you know, I go back to what we talked about 1498 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,680 Speaker 2: with all the with all the playoff scenarios, and you're 1499 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 2: exactly right as they got it right. It's settled on 1500 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 2: the field, et cetera. 1501 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 4: Really quickly. 1502 01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 2: We only got about a minute because we got to 1503 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 2: get back to the sega. Ohio State obviously, coming off 1504 01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,240 Speaker 2: that unbelievable performance in the Rose Bowl, they look like 1505 01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 2: the best team. To me, does feel like a little 1506 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 2: like nobody's giving Texas a chance. It is worth noting 1507 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,519 Speaker 2: this game is in Dallas, but Ohio State's obviously been 1508 01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:37,719 Speaker 2: the best team in this playoff. 1509 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 4: They're operating at a really high level. And I do 1510 01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 4: think Ohio State wins this game. 1511 01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah so do I. I mean, the reason sports are 1512 01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 3: played is to make fools of us all, so you know, 1513 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,040 Speaker 3: we'll find out. But Ohio State right now looks unbeatable, period. 1514 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 3: Like when you look at Ohio State, you don't look 1515 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,080 Speaker 3: at the other three teams and say they should win. 1516 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,240 Speaker 3: Ohio State looks like they're playing I'm not saying, and 1517 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,680 Speaker 3: they look like an NFL team. I'm saying they look 1518 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 3: better than a college football team, something between college and NFL, 1519 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 3: whatever that limbo situation is. That's where Ohio State is 1520 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 3: right now. And then, of course they have the best 1521 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,000 Speaker 3: football player on earth right now in terms of the 1522 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,240 Speaker 3: college game in Jeremiah Smith, who right now could be 1523 01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 3: a playoff wide receiver one in the NFL. 1524 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 4: Zero doubt. 1525 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,880 Speaker 2: Ohio State dominates Oregon as Jeremiah Smith is the Rose 1526 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 2: Bowl MVP. Good luck stopping them, Texas. The only it's 1527 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 2: the oldest cliche in the book. The only people that 1528 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 2: could stop Jeremiah Smith this year were Ryan Day and 1529 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,160 Speaker 2: Chip Kelly. So we'll see if Texas has any better answer. 1530 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:40,080 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, This is the Tours and Martin Show, 1531 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 2: Ara Torris, Jason Martin taking it till two am. 1532 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 4: Easter will come back. 1533 01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,800 Speaker 2: Steve De Sager always delivers the end of our two 1534 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 2: everything you missed from throughout the afternoon. 1535 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 4: Sager's next Fox Sports Radio Welcome back everybody. 1536 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er tors Jason Martin broadcasting live from 1537 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,400 Speaker 2: the ti iraq dot Com studios. Let's not wagh stendy 1538 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,080 Speaker 2: more time around this time every week we toss it 1539 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:06,080 Speaker 2: over the news desk two De Saga for his extended 1540 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,080 Speaker 2: update Everything you missed throughout the Saturday in the world 1541 01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 2: of sports. 1542 01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:13,080 Speaker 6: Haysty Hey, There and a lot of NFL to get to. 1543 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,479 Speaker 6: But first off, the very sad note to pass along 1544 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,759 Speaker 6: from overnight that the father of Georgia football coach Kirby 1545 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 6: Smart passed away, dying after a fall in New Orleans 1546 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 6: this week. Sunny Smart, was a longtime high school football 1547 01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 6: coach in Georgia and Alabama, died overnight and the statement 1548 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,439 Speaker 6: says Sonny fell while walking in New Orleans during the 1549 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,920 Speaker 6: day on New Year's Eve and fractured his hip. He 1550 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:41,559 Speaker 6: was hospitalized, had hip surgery complications arose. Kirby Smart spent 1551 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,519 Speaker 6: part of New Year's Day with his dad at the 1552 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 6: hospital after the Sugar Bowl was pushed back a day 1553 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,639 Speaker 6: and the Georgia coach returned to the hospital shortly after 1554 01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 6: their quarter final loss to Notre Dame. Well Cincinnati Bengals 1555 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,639 Speaker 6: have ended the NFL season with a five game winning streak. 1556 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,759 Speaker 6: They're not dead yet. They won at Pittsburgh nineteen seventeen 1557 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,160 Speaker 6: to even though running back Chase Brown was out with 1558 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,799 Speaker 6: his sprained ankle. Cincinnati needed a win tonight and still 1559 01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,120 Speaker 6: losses on Sunday by Denver and Miami to steal that 1560 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:13,040 Speaker 6: final playoff berth. But how about this. Statistically for the 1561 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 6: Bengals offense, Jamar Chase is on track to win the 1562 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,439 Speaker 6: triple Crown of receiving. He's over one hundred and twenty 1563 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 6: five catches, over seventeen hundred yards receiving, He's up to 1564 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:28,439 Speaker 6: seventeen touchdowns, by the way, and Joe Burrow nearing five 1565 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,240 Speaker 6: thousand passing yards here as we end his season forty 1566 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,160 Speaker 6: three touchdowns, nine interceptions for him. So the Bengals were 1567 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:41,040 Speaker 6: up nineteen seven in the fourth nineteen to seventeen is 1568 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,880 Speaker 6: the final. George Pickens finished with one catch. In fact, 1569 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,280 Speaker 6: Cincinnati's Cam Taylor britt According to the next Gen stats 1570 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 6: from this one, he lined up against Pickens on most 1571 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,559 Speaker 6: of his routes, shadowed him on almost eighty percent of 1572 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,559 Speaker 6: the routes. Head to head, he allowed no catches and 1573 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 6: just two targets to Pickens overall, six targets, one reception, 1574 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,480 Speaker 6: and no yards in the game. In fact, the Steelers 1575 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,720 Speaker 6: offense under two hundred yards. Bengals went four for four 1576 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 6: on field goals, including a key field goal before halftime. 1577 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:17,200 Speaker 6: Cincinnati wins by two, and Trey Hendrickson apparently leads in sacks. 1578 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,559 Speaker 6: Now he's got three and a half from this game. Tonight, 1579 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,280 Speaker 6: Baltimore clinched the AFC North. It'll be the number three seed. 1580 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 6: We'll see if the Ravens will be hosting Pittsburgh next 1581 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 6: weekend to open the playoffs. But Baltimore finishes twelve and 1582 01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,760 Speaker 6: five after handing Cleveland a loss thirty five to ten. 1583 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,559 Speaker 6: Cleveland went one and eight on the road this year, 1584 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 6: three and fourteen overall. Bailey Zappi at quarterback for the 1585 01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,720 Speaker 6: Browns today, one touchdown, two interceptions, including an early pick 1586 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,639 Speaker 6: six Cleveland is a team with all the injuries, wound 1587 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 6: up with not much on the ground nineteen carries just 1588 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,360 Speaker 6: fifty six yards, so the Browns lose six in a 1589 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:56,679 Speaker 6: row to end the season. Lamar Jackson, an MVP candidate 1590 01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:59,640 Speaker 6: at least again this year, two touchdown passes and he 1591 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,559 Speaker 6: had nine nine carries sixty three yards rushing. This game 1592 01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 6: was twenty one ten mid fourth quarter thirty five ten 1593 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 6: the final. The news from the Ravens offense, though Pro 1594 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 6: Bowl wide receiver z A. Flowers left with a knee injury. 1595 01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,680 Speaker 6: Derek Henry two touchdown runs in the fourth Ravens won 1596 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 6: their fourth straight game. They did have ten penalties, but 1597 01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 6: the Ravens will open the playoffs at home next weekend. 1598 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,520 Speaker 6: We'll see if it's against the Steelers. The Chargers activated 1599 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,519 Speaker 6: safety a Lohi Gilman for their season finale at Las 1600 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 6: Vegas tomorrow. A Chargers win Sunday means they'll open the 1601 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,679 Speaker 6: playoffs at Houston, the worst of the four division winners 1602 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 6: next weekend. Chargers running back Gus Edwards with an ankle injury, 1603 01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,080 Speaker 6: is out Sunday, as his wide receiver Josh Palmer with 1604 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,679 Speaker 6: a foot injury. For Las Vegas running back a Mer 1605 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,639 Speaker 6: Abdullah out with a foot injury. San Francisco will start 1606 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 6: quarterback Joshua Dobbs tomorrow, as QB brock Perty is out 1607 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,639 Speaker 6: at Arizona with an elbow injury, and wide receiver Deebo 1608 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:56,040 Speaker 6: Samuel is out with rib and wrist injuries. Packers wide 1609 01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,160 Speaker 6: receiver Romeo Dobbs is now questionable due to illness as 1610 01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 6: Green Bay hosts the Bears. Packers defensive back JayR Alexander 1611 01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,920 Speaker 6: is going uninjured. Reserve Bill's wide receiver Amari Cooper out 1612 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 6: for the game at New England due to a family matter. 1613 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,719 Speaker 6: We could have a division champion again with Tampa Bay. 1614 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,960 Speaker 6: The Bucks will clinch the NFC South tomorrow with a 1615 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,800 Speaker 6: win or a tie against the Saints, or even if 1616 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,360 Speaker 6: Atlanta loses or ties. Now Atlanta gets to host Carolina, 1617 01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 6: a team that has the league's worst defense and allows 1618 01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,360 Speaker 6: thirty one points a game, which is worse. The Bucks 1619 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:31,880 Speaker 6: get to face a New Orleans team that has scored 1620 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,800 Speaker 6: under twenty points in five straight games since their bye week, 1621 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,200 Speaker 6: and the Saints. Star running back Alvin Kamara was listed 1622 01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,719 Speaker 6: as doubtful with a groin injury, and running back Kendrey 1623 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 6: Miller is out with a concussion, and wide receiver Chris 1624 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,439 Speaker 6: Alave is out as Tampa Bay hosts New Orleans. 1625 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 3: Bucks. 1626 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 6: Safety Jordan Whitehead is out for this game after a 1627 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,599 Speaker 6: car accident on his way to the team facility this morning, 1628 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 6: and Tampa Bay safety and One Winfield is already out 1629 01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 6: with a knee injury. The Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts a 1630 01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,680 Speaker 6: fish out. We're not expecting to see a lot of 1631 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,080 Speaker 6: other guys starters offense and defense sit in this one, 1632 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 6: as the Eagles did at least activate tight end Dallas 1633 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:12,640 Speaker 6: Goddard and Washington will play running back Austin Eckler in 1634 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,960 Speaker 6: Sunday's finale at Dallas. He has been activated miss four 1635 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 6: games after a concussion. Dallas Cowboys have signed quarterback Will Greer. 1636 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,240 Speaker 6: Will see how much Trey Lance we see on the 1637 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,759 Speaker 6: field with the Cowboys tomorrow. 1638 01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 4: Hopefully not that much, Knob just kidding Fox Sports. 1639 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 6: Probably we'll see a little bit. 1640 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think when you have five interceptions in one 1641 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,240 Speaker 4: of the preseasons. 1642 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,120 Speaker 6: It'll be like, yeah, preseason when he could throw fifty. 1643 01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,240 Speaker 4: Times, I believe, all right. 1644 01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:38,639 Speaker 2: Thank you to Seger Tours and Martin back next Fox 1645 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,120 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. 1646 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 1647 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody our three tours in Martin, Fox Sports Radio. 1648 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. 1649 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 2: Tyreck dot com Well help you get there, an unmatched selection, 1650 01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten 1651 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:05,479 Speaker 2: recommended installers. 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Cannot wait to hear what Bernie has 1655 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,880 Speaker 2: to say about what was obviously a very eventful Saturday 1656 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 2: in the NFL and sports in general, and. 1657 01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 4: Of course a busy week eighteen in the NFL. 1658 01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 2: Jmartin, I do want to get to the big one 1659 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,439 Speaker 2: Sunday night, of course, Vikings Detroit, before we do. 1660 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:36,960 Speaker 4: Do you have any quick takeaways? 1661 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,480 Speaker 2: We talked a lot in our one about the Steelers 1662 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,720 Speaker 2: falling to the Bengals. Bengals, I know we've talked about 1663 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 2: it a bit if you've been listening all night, but 1664 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:49,200 Speaker 2: Bengals need both Miami and Denver to lose tomorrow to 1665 01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,440 Speaker 2: get into the playoffs. We'll see if that happens Pittsburgh 1666 01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 2: with their loss tonight, I should have mention Cincinnati beats 1667 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh nineteen to seventeen. With Pittsburgh's loss, they will now 1668 01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 2: be the five sea if the Chargers lose. If the 1669 01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 2: Chargers win, the Chargers actually get the five seed and 1670 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 2: it will be Pittsburgh going to Baltimore. Baltimore clinch d 1671 01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:13,240 Speaker 2: number three seed and the AFC North with their early 1672 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 2: win over the Cleveland Browns. From the Browns perspective, I 1673 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,679 Speaker 2: guess if you're looking for any sort of positive, they 1674 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:22,559 Speaker 2: did lock in a top three draft pick with their loss. 1675 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 2: Browns finished the season at three and fourteen overall. Before 1676 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,679 Speaker 2: we look ahead to Sunday, Jmart anything specifically stand out 1677 01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,439 Speaker 2: about week About the two games on Saturday and Week eighteen, I. 1678 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,679 Speaker 3: Mean not really. Baltimore handled business against the Browns team 1679 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 3: that was just ready to go ahead and end the season, 1680 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 3: and Cincinnati ends up with a record that's above five hundred, 1681 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,439 Speaker 3: which is impressive considering how badly everything started for them, 1682 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,519 Speaker 3: and Burrow not even being healthy at the beginning of 1683 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,600 Speaker 3: the year. And Burrow has had MVP like numbers. No 1684 01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 3: question he's played like an MVP all season long. Won't 1685 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,519 Speaker 3: win the award, I don't think, but man, he has 1686 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,960 Speaker 3: been spell and I think they're going to get left out. 1687 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:06,360 Speaker 3: And that's just the breaks, right It's it's all about 1688 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,559 Speaker 3: the schedule that you play in your win loss record. 1689 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,320 Speaker 3: It's really that simple. I think that the Bengals right now, 1690 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 3: I'd rather see them in the playoffs than the Steelers, 1691 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,920 Speaker 3: just because I'd rather see that offense. But at the 1692 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 3: same time, Stewar's defense will be heard from they always are, 1693 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,320 Speaker 3: and you know there'll be a team that you won't 1694 01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 3: want to necessarily see either, even though I don't think 1695 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,840 Speaker 3: I think they'll be one and done. But stranger things 1696 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,519 Speaker 3: have happened in this league. I don't know if there's 1697 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 3: any major takeaways except it feels like the Steelers and 1698 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:39,679 Speaker 3: Ravens in particular haven't played a game on a Sunday 1699 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:45,480 Speaker 3: in like half a decade because they played on Christmas 1700 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,559 Speaker 3: and they played on another weird day, and now here 1701 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 3: they are playing on a Saturday. It's just strange. It 1702 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,920 Speaker 3: just feels like the AFC North has decided that Sundays 1703 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 3: are They're like Chick fil A, Like there's not going 1704 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,439 Speaker 3: to be any Sunday games for the AFC North this year. 1705 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,679 Speaker 4: Well, you know what I will say is for the. 1706 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,680 Speaker 2: For the UH, for the for the the schedule, the 1707 01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,000 Speaker 2: way it fell, it is weird. But obviously with with 1708 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,160 Speaker 2: Christmas on Wednesday, they kind of had to have all 1709 01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,800 Speaker 2: those teams play on Saturday. So you had the Saturday 1710 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 2: into the Wednesday, and then I guess, yeah, I guess 1711 01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:24,400 Speaker 2: everybody since has played on Saturday again. So all say, 1712 01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 2: we talked about it last week. It was a weird 1713 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,679 Speaker 2: couple weeks in the NFL where you know, we talked 1714 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,479 Speaker 2: about it as like we love our jobs, but but 1715 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,920 Speaker 2: I think we all not just people that work in 1716 01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,960 Speaker 2: our industry, but I think even people that you know 1717 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 2: are just fans of the end. I wonder how many people, basically, 1718 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:42,559 Speaker 2: I guess, is the point I'm trying to get to 1719 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,360 Speaker 2: miss the day of just NFL or we're late to 1720 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:50,800 Speaker 2: the party, either you know that Saturday before Christmas or 1721 01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,400 Speaker 2: that Thursday night game with with you know, the six 1722 01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,840 Speaker 2: to three game Seahawks and Bears, or the Wednesday game. 1723 01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 2: It's like there was just so much football you kind 1724 01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,120 Speaker 2: of got lost in the shuffle. So we already talked about. 1725 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:03,320 Speaker 4: It last week. 1726 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,479 Speaker 2: We don't have to relitigate that whole story, but there 1727 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,120 Speaker 2: was just a lot of football. But you're right, they 1728 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,879 Speaker 2: have those two teams, specifically the Steelers and the Ravens. 1729 01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,320 Speaker 2: Because they played on Christmas Day, they played again on 1730 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 2: a Saturday. It's been a minute since they've played a 1731 01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,240 Speaker 2: Sunday game, So we'll see what happens with them. Obviously, 1732 01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,880 Speaker 2: still a little bit to shake out. Baltimore is locked 1733 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,280 Speaker 2: into the three seed, the five, six, and seven are. 1734 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,160 Speaker 4: Still up four grabs in the AFC. 1735 01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,880 Speaker 2: Let's get to the NFC. Jmart, we got a big 1736 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 2: one Sunday night in Detroit. And listen, everybody on these 1737 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 2: airwaves has been talking about this one for a week now. 1738 01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,439 Speaker 2: It's really, you know, I don't want to say the 1739 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,639 Speaker 2: only game of significance because they're still seeding and things 1740 01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,559 Speaker 2: of that nature, but this feels like, by far, the 1741 01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,240 Speaker 2: game that everybody is most looking forward to. I am, 1742 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,840 Speaker 2: of course talking about Minnesota at Detroit. A pair of 1743 01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:58,800 Speaker 2: fourteen and two teams, meaning that some team is gonna 1744 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,240 Speaker 2: finish fourteen three, not win the division, not get the 1745 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:07,160 Speaker 2: number one seed, and start the playoffs on the road. 1746 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, likely it'll. 1747 01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 2: Be Tampa Atlanta, so you know they'll probably be a favorite. 1748 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,680 Speaker 2: But first thoughts on this one. By the way, the 1749 01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,280 Speaker 2: big story that came out on Saturday, the Minnesota Vikings. 1750 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 4: How about this jam or did you see the story? 1751 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:26,639 Speaker 2: Purchase nineteen hundred tickets in Detroit as an organization, spending 1752 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,679 Speaker 2: almost two million dollars, and it sounds like they're gonna 1753 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,200 Speaker 2: fly a lot of friends and family, staff members things 1754 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,800 Speaker 2: like that out for the game. So try not to 1755 01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,519 Speaker 2: have quite too big of an advantage at Ford Field. 1756 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,880 Speaker 2: But but this should be a good one, should. 1757 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 4: Be a fun one. Your thoughts on this one? 1758 01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is perfect for the NFL because 1759 01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,519 Speaker 3: the stakes are so big in terms of number one 1760 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 3: seed versus having to go on the road and you know, 1761 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 3: play next week. I hate that in its own way, 1762 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 3: Like it's great for the weekend, it's great for the 1763 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 3: league for the week, but it seems ridiculous that they 1764 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,560 Speaker 3: would have to go on the road. But that's just 1765 01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,120 Speaker 3: the way it is. And unless something changes, and you know, 1766 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,080 Speaker 3: there's always the argument, should you look at this differently? 1767 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,479 Speaker 3: Does it always have to be division winners? This would 1768 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,479 Speaker 3: be a good argument for it yeah, have a second. 1769 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,479 Speaker 2: I was a guest on Steve Hartman and Mantiblanos's show 1770 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,920 Speaker 2: this afternoon, and Steve is still really caught up in 1771 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,519 Speaker 2: the college football playoff, and what I said to him was, 1772 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 2: I said, look, the thing isn't perfect. 1773 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 4: It's gonna get tweaked. 1774 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,400 Speaker 2: But I literally said, I said, how many postseasons, if 1775 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:34,200 Speaker 2: we were starting them now in real time would people 1776 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,800 Speaker 2: complain about? And I use this exact example, is like, 1777 01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 2: we just accept that this is the way it is 1778 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,000 Speaker 2: because it's the way that it's always been. You know, 1779 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:43,879 Speaker 2: if we had always had a twelve team college football 1780 01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:47,599 Speaker 2: playoff where the top four seeds went to the conference champions, Like, 1781 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,080 Speaker 2: if we had had that for thirty years, nobody would 1782 01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 2: be complaining about it now. 1783 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 4: But because it's new, everybody's complaining about it. 1784 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 2: And I just feel like it's the opposite with the 1785 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,800 Speaker 2: NFL of we just default to this is the way 1786 01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,639 Speaker 2: we've always done it, so this is how it's got 1787 01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,479 Speaker 2: to be. But it just kind of shows you, like 1788 01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 2: how quirky some of these postseasons are. As to your point, 1789 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,400 Speaker 2: and to my point, and to everybody's point, one of 1790 01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,320 Speaker 2: these two teams is not only not going to get 1791 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,439 Speaker 2: a buy not only not going to win the division, 1792 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,280 Speaker 2: but they're going to open the playoffs on. 1793 01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 3: The road, but the winner is going to be the 1794 01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,120 Speaker 3: one seed like that. That's what's so insane about it. 1795 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, it's gonna be a great it's 1796 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,240 Speaker 3: a great matchup. But at the same time, it's just 1797 01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,160 Speaker 3: you want to see both these teams come out of 1798 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:29,280 Speaker 3: this game healthy, especially Detroit has just been ravaged all 1799 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,960 Speaker 3: season long. And then you have this added element of 1800 01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,760 Speaker 3: Sam Darnold and the season that he's had and the 1801 01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 3: way that Kevin O'Connell has really utilized him and built 1802 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 3: his confidence back and made me feel a little better 1803 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,160 Speaker 3: about how high I was on him coming out of USC, 1804 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,679 Speaker 3: just reminding me that, yeah, yeah, that dude does have 1805 01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 3: some talent in him, and I'm glad to see this happening. 1806 01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,479 Speaker 3: And at the same time, there's this other storyline out 1807 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 3: there about JJ McCarthy and whether or not they're gonna 1808 01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:03,599 Speaker 3: try and shop for a top ten pick and extend 1809 01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:06,200 Speaker 3: Darnald or pay Donald or are they gonna franchise Donald 1810 01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,600 Speaker 3: and keep McCarthy and all this this is gonna be 1811 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 3: so fascinating because what's the tipping point for Sam Darnald 1812 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,360 Speaker 3: in terms of okay, well, the Vikings have to find 1813 01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:19,280 Speaker 3: a way here, or did they just maximize the value 1814 01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 3: and this is the move they're gonna make. Either way, 1815 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,280 Speaker 3: let somebody else pay him. I don't know, but I'm 1816 01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,360 Speaker 3: so fascinated to watch him from this point forward because 1817 01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,479 Speaker 3: so much of it is going to determine his future. 1818 01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think the other fascinating point is what if 1819 01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,120 Speaker 2: he's a total dud in the playoffs? I mean, right, 1820 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 2: what if the next two weeks, you know, they lose. 1821 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:39,400 Speaker 2: You know, I don't think it's gonna happen, but they 1822 01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,840 Speaker 2: lose thirty one to seven tomorrow and it's not competitive, 1823 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,240 Speaker 2: and then you're wanted done the playoffs. Then all of 1824 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:45,760 Speaker 2: a sudden, a guy that people are talking about, you 1825 01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 2: got to pay him forty fifty million dollars a year. 1826 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:49,680 Speaker 2: Now maybe you let him walk. So I think that's 1827 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,720 Speaker 2: an interesting you know, I think everybody's so focused on 1828 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,800 Speaker 2: the and I'm not rooting for the guy to fail, 1829 01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 2: but everybody's so focused on the how much do you 1830 01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 2: pay him? Do you trade JJ McCarthy. It's like, what 1831 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,760 Speaker 2: if the opposite happens? And he's a disaster. Can you 1832 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 2: pay him if the next two weeks it doesn't go well? 1833 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean right, That's what I'm saying, Like he's 1834 01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,840 Speaker 3: got to keep it up and how well does he 1835 01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:15,000 Speaker 3: have to play in order to stay in Minnesota. There 1836 01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,439 Speaker 3: are going to be those that are going to suggest 1837 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,320 Speaker 3: that a lot of this is not just Kevin O'Connell, 1838 01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,839 Speaker 3: but also the talent that Darnald has on his offense, 1839 01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:27,760 Speaker 3: the receivers in Jefferson and Jordan Addison and just what 1840 01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,040 Speaker 3: they have, the weaponry, the guys that he's thrown to 1841 01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,439 Speaker 3: on a regular basis, They're going to do anything they 1842 01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,360 Speaker 3: can not to give Donald all the credit that And 1843 01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,599 Speaker 3: I do think he has played exceptionally well this year 1844 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,040 Speaker 3: and he's thrown some really nice balls and he definitely 1845 01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,559 Speaker 3: has built his confidence back and somebody is going to 1846 01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,599 Speaker 3: get him next year, whether or not he's in Minnesota. 1847 01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:49,400 Speaker 3: But then, McCarthy, it's like you drafted him for a reason. 1848 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,920 Speaker 3: And if the idea is that Donald has flourished because 1849 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 3: of his weaponry, well, then what's JJ McCarthy going to do? 1850 01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:59,759 Speaker 3: Because when I've read this in a couple of different 1851 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:03,240 Speaker 3: plays over the last couple of days. JJ McCarthy would 1852 01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 3: be the first quarterback off the board this year. He 1853 01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,640 Speaker 3: would be ahead of Ward, he would be ahead of 1854 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:12,880 Speaker 3: Shador Sanders. If that's the case, you can't let him go. 1855 01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 3: If that's the case, if you really do believe that, 1856 01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:19,240 Speaker 3: and you believe that he would be the top quarterback 1857 01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:21,439 Speaker 3: off the off the board, if he had, for instance, 1858 01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:24,080 Speaker 3: come back to Michigan and played again for another year 1859 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,000 Speaker 3: or whatever, then I don't know that you can let 1860 01:30:27,040 --> 01:30:29,240 Speaker 3: him go. So how do you keep both of those 1861 01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:32,639 Speaker 3: guys on board? That becomes interesting. I know we didn't 1862 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,559 Speaker 3: really talk that much about the game. I think both. 1863 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:36,879 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's gonna. 1864 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:38,680 Speaker 3: Be a great matchup. I don't I don't even know 1865 01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,760 Speaker 3: who I favor, Honestly, I've thought Detroit was was the 1866 01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,439 Speaker 3: team all year long. But Minnesota keeps defying expectations and 1867 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:50,559 Speaker 3: keeps winning games. And O'Connell is he's a much quieter, 1868 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:55,559 Speaker 3: more mild mannered coach than Dan Campbell. But both those 1869 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,960 Speaker 3: both those guys are just knocking it out of the park. 1870 01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,479 Speaker 3: And then you look at green Bay, and green Bay 1871 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,280 Speaker 3: is still gonna be heard from too. It's just Chicago 1872 01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,639 Speaker 3: that stinks as usual. 1873 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,240 Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this really quickly. 1874 01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,040 Speaker 2: On the McCarthy thing, we can talk a little bit 1875 01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,080 Speaker 2: more about the game itself. You know, I actually don't 1876 01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:15,040 Speaker 2: understand the JJ McCarthy thing. I mean, my whole thing 1877 01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:18,559 Speaker 2: is one, first of all, you could franchise tag Sam 1878 01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:20,960 Speaker 2: Donald this year, which I think is part of it, 1879 01:31:21,320 --> 01:31:24,160 Speaker 2: but be mean to Sam Donald. 1880 01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it cost him a lot of money 1881 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,080 Speaker 3: to do that. It would be and you know it's 1882 01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:29,680 Speaker 3: a business move. 1883 01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,680 Speaker 2: No, no, no, it doesn't really feel like that's really like 1884 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,559 Speaker 2: an option, Like doesn't feel like that's going to be 1885 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:38,120 Speaker 2: one of the things that happens. It feels like Minnesota's 1886 01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:42,160 Speaker 2: gonna pay him. My thing with JJ McCarthy is now, 1887 01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,040 Speaker 2: I do think it changes if like you give Sam 1888 01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,880 Speaker 2: Donald like a five year contract, then yeah, that the 1889 01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,040 Speaker 2: calculus changes. But I was I was saying to somebody 1890 01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,200 Speaker 2: this week, is like there are rookie guys on rookie 1891 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,639 Speaker 2: contracts that don't play all the time. They're called bus 1892 01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:57,800 Speaker 2: like guys that just aren't as good as we think 1893 01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 2: and they don't play the role that we expect. You know, 1894 01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 2: the one that comes to mind, like Quentin Johnson last year, 1895 01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:05,080 Speaker 2: you know, this year the last couple of years, like 1896 01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:08,280 Speaker 2: like he he played more this year for the Los 1897 01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,960 Speaker 2: Angeles Chargers, but like last year, he was essentially like 1898 01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:16,640 Speaker 2: unplayable as a rookie. And so, you know, whatever, the 1899 01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:20,360 Speaker 2: point I'm trying to make is rookie guys don't step 1900 01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,040 Speaker 2: on the field all the time because they're not good enough. 1901 01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:23,760 Speaker 2: So I don't see why you would have to trade 1902 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,759 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy. But I do think the Sam Darnold question 1903 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,559 Speaker 2: is interesting if things do not go well or if 1904 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,200 Speaker 2: things go very well, and it does feel like all 1905 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,160 Speaker 2: the reports seem to indicate that they plan on keeping 1906 01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:37,640 Speaker 2: him so really quickly. I know you said that you 1907 01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:40,759 Speaker 2: don't necessarily have a pick for the game on Sunday again, 1908 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:45,480 Speaker 2: the Sunday night game NBC eight twenty Eastern Vikings at Detroit. 1909 01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,800 Speaker 2: Winner gets the number one seed, winner wins the NFC North. 1910 01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:53,120 Speaker 2: Winner obviously has a buye to the to the to 1911 01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:56,000 Speaker 2: the you know to to the divisional round weekend. 1912 01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,280 Speaker 4: Do you have an official pick yet? Are you still 1913 01:32:58,360 --> 01:32:59,759 Speaker 4: kind of I think I'll. 1914 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:02,559 Speaker 3: Go line because it's I mean, it's there. I think 1915 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,920 Speaker 3: just the fact that they get a home game in 1916 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,240 Speaker 3: this situation it's just going to be a wild environment. 1917 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,600 Speaker 3: Even with the nineteen hundred tickets that the Vikings have 1918 01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:13,040 Speaker 3: paid to bring in family and all this kind of stuff. 1919 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,200 Speaker 3: It would be a just it would just what a 1920 01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:17,920 Speaker 3: massive win that would be for Minnesota to go on 1921 01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,519 Speaker 3: the road and then earn the number one seed by 1922 01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:22,760 Speaker 3: beating this team that's been such a joker, not we 1923 01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:24,280 Speaker 3: felt like all year, and then you look up and 1924 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:28,680 Speaker 3: the Vikings record is just it's staggering, it really is. 1925 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,080 Speaker 3: I think I favor the Lions in a close football game, 1926 01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:34,599 Speaker 3: but wouldn't be surprised to be wrong. 1927 01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'll probably take the Lions too, not 1928 01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:39,800 Speaker 2: only because they're at home, you know, with the Vikings. Listen, 1929 01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,320 Speaker 2: it feels like when you say stuff like this, you're 1930 01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,599 Speaker 2: picking on them. But I was noticing this. I think 1931 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 2: they've won. Now, let me double check. Here three six, 1932 01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,720 Speaker 2: so nine games in a row. I'm not dismissing a 1933 01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,679 Speaker 2: nine game win streak in the NFL. What I will 1934 01:33:55,720 --> 01:34:00,760 Speaker 2: say here are the nine wins Colts at home, Jacksonville 1935 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:05,800 Speaker 2: at Titans, two against the Bears. That's five falcons in 1936 01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,639 Speaker 2: the second to last start for Kirk Cousins. Cardinals who 1937 01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 2: were obviously melting down, and the Seahawks prior to the 1938 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:14,120 Speaker 2: Packers last week. 1939 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:15,800 Speaker 4: Obviously, the Packers was a great win. 1940 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,920 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to take away anything from it, but 1941 01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,960 Speaker 2: and Dartle played well and all that. But it's just like, 1942 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,240 Speaker 2: you know, like I think they're really good. I don't 1943 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,640 Speaker 2: think they're unbeatable by any stretch. And I do think that, 1944 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,400 Speaker 2: you know, just listen, they weren't good last year. They 1945 01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,599 Speaker 2: had a last place sched not really last play schedule, 1946 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:33,799 Speaker 2: but they had a softer schedule. 1947 01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:35,599 Speaker 4: And I just bring it up. 1948 01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:39,120 Speaker 2: Because a little bit of a weaker competition to get 1949 01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:41,720 Speaker 2: to this point. So I will take the Lions at 1950 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:45,000 Speaker 2: home to win, and I will take them to beat 1951 01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,880 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings in Week eight Team. 1952 01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:51,240 Speaker 3: Fox, Sorry, go ahead, No, I just I agree. I mean, 1953 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,559 Speaker 3: I think I think the Lions will win too. It's 1954 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,599 Speaker 3: what a great way to end the regular season, though, 1955 01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,320 Speaker 3: no doubt that's an awesome game. 1956 01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:02,799 Speaker 2: Awesome game agains the one of note in Week eighteen, 1957 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,800 Speaker 2: which is you know, obviously why they're playing it on 1958 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,559 Speaker 2: Sunday night, Fox Sports Radio or towards Jason Martin. We 1959 01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,919 Speaker 2: are broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios. 1960 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,960 Speaker 4: We will come back. When we do. 1961 01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:18,920 Speaker 2: They say, NBA it's getting soft, there's no great rivalries. 1962 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,639 Speaker 2: Well we may have just come up with a new 1963 01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:23,519 Speaker 2: great rivalry in the NBA. 1964 01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:25,599 Speaker 4: We'll discuss that next Fox Sports Radio. 1965 01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:31,880 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Eric Tords, Jason Martin. 1966 01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:36,920 Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the ti Iraq dot Com studios. 1967 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 2: Get to some very interesting uh jawing. 1968 01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 3: In the NBA. 1969 01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:44,240 Speaker 2: We'll do that. 1970 01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:46,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was wondering what you were saying and that. 1971 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:48,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, I know where we're going. 1972 01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a new biggest rivalry in the NBA. 1973 01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,759 Speaker 2: Now talking about Cavs, you're off the hook, Holmes, dude, 1974 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,400 Speaker 2: I mean well listen. 1975 01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:58,920 Speaker 3: I mean he used to be your rival. 1976 01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:03,520 Speaker 2: Whenever no one's got beef with one specific person, including Torres. 1977 01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,360 Speaker 2: Maybe it's not a Torres problem, Maybe it's that other 1978 01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:07,200 Speaker 2: person problem. 1979 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:08,120 Speaker 4: Who could it be? 1980 01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,800 Speaker 2: It's not the saga, but let's get it over to 1981 01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:14,000 Speaker 2: the news desk. Steve de Sager, it's Arne Spander, it 1982 01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:18,160 Speaker 2: is Arnie Spander. Okay, secut listen to your Vegas rivalry 1983 01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:20,479 Speaker 2: in the NBA Tours and Spaniard although I will say 1984 01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:24,000 Speaker 2: Disager won What's trending two. I know Arnie wasn't working 1985 01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,719 Speaker 2: at it because Arizona basketball one today. 1986 01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,639 Speaker 6: So yes, they held on to a lead at number 1987 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,920 Speaker 6: sixteen Cincinnati and Nebraska beat number fifteen Ucla, and the 1988 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,559 Speaker 6: day started with a top ten matchup at Kentucky and 1989 01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:39,280 Speaker 6: the Wildcats beat Florida one oh six one hundred. Kentucky 1990 01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,560 Speaker 6: shot fifty eight percent from the floor, had just six turnovers, 1991 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,160 Speaker 6: and the Gators on free throws in a close game 1992 01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,760 Speaker 6: just twenty two for thirty five. The top five each 1993 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:52,559 Speaker 6: one undefeated Tennessee which is number one, Auburn one, Iowa 1994 01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,000 Speaker 6: State Duke, and number five Alabama, which ripped Oklahoma tonight. 1995 01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,400 Speaker 6: And in the late NBA game we mentioned earlier, Kawhi 1996 01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:01,960 Speaker 6: Leonard made it season debut after the knee injury. Had 1997 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 6: twelve points in nineteen minutes. Clippers all over Atlanta one 1998 01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:09,000 Speaker 6: thirty one to one oh five. Golden State's Steph Curry 1999 01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:12,160 Speaker 6: was out due to knee injury management. Golden State still 2000 01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:16,040 Speaker 6: won against Memphis. Chicago beat New York despite forty four 2001 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:20,479 Speaker 6: points from Carl Anthony, Towns Detroit over Minnesota despite fifty 2002 01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:24,200 Speaker 6: three points from Anthony Edwards. Denver won in overtime at 2003 01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,920 Speaker 6: San Antonio, and Nicola Jokic was great again forty six points, 2004 01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:32,759 Speaker 6: nine rebounds, tenn ASIS wins for Portland and for Utah, 2005 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,799 Speaker 6: which had lost five in a row but won easily 2006 01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,280 Speaker 6: at Miami. Jimmy Butler of the Heat serving a seven 2007 01:37:37,320 --> 01:37:42,360 Speaker 6: game team suspension, wins for Philadelphia and Indiana. Jadeki Matsuyama 2008 01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:46,360 Speaker 6: leads by one stroke in Hawaii NHL. Among the twelve games, 2009 01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,599 Speaker 6: Montreal in a shootout one at Colorado two to one, 2010 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,599 Speaker 6: LA with another home win two to one over Tampa Bay. 2011 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,400 Speaker 6: You guys were talking about the great matchup that's coming 2012 01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:58,559 Speaker 6: up to end the NFL regular season on Sunday night. 2013 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,080 Speaker 6: It's going to be in Minnesota, team that's won nine 2014 01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,280 Speaker 6: straight fourteen and two playing at Detroit fourteen and two. 2015 01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 6: This is going to be the first matchup, they say, 2016 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,080 Speaker 6: in the final week of a regular season where the 2017 01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:13,599 Speaker 6: winner gets the one seed in the conference since Dallas 2018 01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,840 Speaker 6: at the Giants nineteen ninety three, when EMMITTT. Smith played 2019 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,920 Speaker 6: with the separated shoulder and Dallas won in overtime and 2020 01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,639 Speaker 6: went on to run the table and win the Super Bowl. 2021 01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:26,120 Speaker 6: Cincinnati is still alive for a playoff spot in the 2022 01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:29,000 Speaker 6: AFC after winning its fifth straight game, a victory at 2023 01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:32,679 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh tonight nineteen to seventeen. Bengals led ten to nothing 2024 01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,559 Speaker 6: in the first quarter and led nineteen to seven in 2025 01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:38,880 Speaker 6: the fourth. Jamar Chase ten catches ninety six yards in 2026 01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 6: a touchdown. Bengals four for four on field goals, including 2027 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,519 Speaker 6: kicking one just before halftime. That turned out to be 2028 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,400 Speaker 6: key Cincinnati, though they not only needed this win, they 2029 01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:53,280 Speaker 6: need losses on Sunday by Denver and Miami. Denver can 2030 01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 6: clinch the final playoff berth in the AFC tomorrow. The 2031 01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:59,240 Speaker 6: Broncos are one game ahead of both Miami and Cincinnati 2032 01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,720 Speaker 6: to start the week. With this one game left, the 2033 01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,280 Speaker 6: Jets are due to interview Rex Ryan on Tuesday. They 2034 01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,559 Speaker 6: already just talked to Mike Grabel for their head coach 2035 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:10,360 Speaker 6: opening Introim coach Jeff Olbrich expects an interview next week. 2036 01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:13,400 Speaker 6: Titans are due to start quarterback Will Levis, but Mason 2037 01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:16,960 Speaker 6: Rudolph will play against the Texans. Texans are the worst 2038 01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,920 Speaker 6: of the four division winners. Houston next weekend will have 2039 01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,679 Speaker 6: a home playoff game. It might be against the Chargers 2040 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,320 Speaker 6: because with Pittsburgh losing a fourth straight game tonight, a 2041 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,679 Speaker 6: Chargers win tomorrow at Las Vegas means they'll be opening 2042 01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:32,680 Speaker 6: at Houston next weekend, and that would put the Steelers 2043 01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,960 Speaker 6: at Baltimore next weekend. The Ravens clinch the AFC North 2044 01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,200 Speaker 6: title and the number three seed with a win over 2045 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:42,200 Speaker 6: the Cleveland Browns thirty five to ten. The Browns finish 2046 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,400 Speaker 6: up with six straight losses and a three to fourteen record. 2047 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:49,000 Speaker 6: Baltimore twelve and five, but Ravens Pro Bowl wide receiver 2048 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,880 Speaker 6: z A Flowers left with a knee injury. Derek Henry 2049 01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:54,280 Speaker 6: two touchdown runs in the fourth for the game. Today 2050 01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:57,519 Speaker 6: twenty carries one hundred and thirty eight yards. Ravens have 2051 01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:00,720 Speaker 6: won four straight again. Ravens will open the play at 2052 01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:05,799 Speaker 6: home next weekend. Carolina activated running back Miles Sanders off ir. 2053 01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,800 Speaker 6: The Panthers play it Atlanta, but Tampa Bay is in 2054 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,559 Speaker 6: the driver's seat for the final playoffs spot there that 2055 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:14,679 Speaker 6: is winning the NFC South because the Bucks will clinch 2056 01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:18,440 Speaker 6: with a win or a tie hosting New Orleans. Atlanta 2057 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:22,439 Speaker 6: is going to be home to Carolina tomorrow. And yes, 2058 01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:25,000 Speaker 6: we did have the Bahamas Bowl today in front of 2059 01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:29,280 Speaker 6: four thousand, six hundred Buffalo beats Liberty twenty six to seven. 2060 01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,320 Speaker 3: Victim. I just see Buffalo can win a bowl game. 2061 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,040 Speaker 4: Whoa postseason game that matters. 2062 01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,679 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Buffalo can win in January. Folks. 2063 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,760 Speaker 6: There we go, man, Josh Allen, sure if they play 2064 01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:41,120 Speaker 6: in the Bahamas. 2065 01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know if. 2066 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,280 Speaker 6: I don't know if they've won this before, as I recall, 2067 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:45,559 Speaker 6: it could be. 2068 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,000 Speaker 2: I'm not I'll have to brush up on my Bahamas 2069 01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,120 Speaker 2: Bowl history before. 2070 01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:51,800 Speaker 6: It is so lengthy it is. Yeah, you'll be at 2071 01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:52,360 Speaker 6: it all night. 2072 01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,800 Speaker 2: It's about as lengthy as the Bills postseason. No, I'm 2073 01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,200 Speaker 2: just kidding. I'm just kidding against at least in this era, 2074 01:40:58,360 --> 01:41:01,120 Speaker 2: not not a lot of great things to talk about. 2075 01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:04,280 Speaker 2: But by the way, if you missed any of our 2076 01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:08,559 Speaker 2: conversation about the Bills about the Ravens, make sure to 2077 01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 2: go back and download the podcast. Great Tease by Tours. 2078 01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:12,840 Speaker 2: I didn't even know we're going to go that direction, 2079 01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:15,880 Speaker 2: but I just did shortly as a professional. Don't try 2080 01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:16,439 Speaker 2: this at home. 2081 01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:17,639 Speaker 4: Don't try this at home. 2082 01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:19,920 Speaker 2: To ten and two, keep your hands on the wheel. 2083 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:22,640 Speaker 2: Shortly after our show. Podcast is going up. If you 2084 01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:24,519 Speaker 2: missed any of today's show, be sure to check out 2085 01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,080 Speaker 2: the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get 2086 01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,000 Speaker 2: your podcasts, and also be sure to follow, rate and 2087 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,719 Speaker 2: review the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever 2088 01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:33,679 Speaker 2: you get your podcast and you'll see this show posted 2089 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,559 Speaker 2: right after we get off air. I'll bring it up 2090 01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:38,479 Speaker 2: because we did do a lengthy conversation about the Bills 2091 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:40,759 Speaker 2: and Ravens, who are in the two and three spots. 2092 01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:43,120 Speaker 6: Can I just add about the Bills. They could finish 2093 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:46,280 Speaker 6: fourteen and three. They could finish undefeated in the division. 2094 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,760 Speaker 6: They're averaging thirty two points a game this year, their 2095 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:53,320 Speaker 6: record in the division since twenty twenty. Here the Patriots 2096 01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,519 Speaker 6: had dominated the AFC East for so many years. This 2097 01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:59,080 Speaker 6: would put Buffalo's record at twenty five and five in 2098 01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:01,720 Speaker 6: the division in recent years. If they went at New 2099 01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:02,880 Speaker 6: England to finish up tomorrow. 2100 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,360 Speaker 2: You know what I will say really quick, and I 2101 01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,160 Speaker 2: do want to get to the the new NBA rivalry 2102 01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:10,880 Speaker 2: that's sweeping the nation. But it does suck that we 2103 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,000 Speaker 2: have like the discourse, and you know, everyone in our 2104 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,800 Speaker 2: business is sort of part of the problem. But like 2105 01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,280 Speaker 2: this discourse that like, oh, you can't be great if 2106 01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:19,960 Speaker 2: you don't win this. 2107 01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:23,200 Speaker 6: It's like as an individual, you mean. 2108 01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like and I know football is a little 2109 01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:29,719 Speaker 2: bit different. But even if Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson 2110 01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,439 Speaker 2: breaks through and beats you know, likely beats Mahomes in 2111 01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,360 Speaker 2: the playoffs, I can't imagine that Houston or Pittsburgh whatever, 2112 01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:38,960 Speaker 2: even if Lamar or Josh Allen breaks through and beats them, 2113 01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,479 Speaker 2: guess what we're gonna go into next year? And like, well, 2114 01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:46,519 Speaker 2: you know, whoever doesn't win it, Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, well, 2115 01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:49,559 Speaker 2: you know, I mean Lamar once again couldn't get out 2116 01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,160 Speaker 2: of the second round, Buffalo lost at home again in 2117 01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:53,679 Speaker 2: the playoffs, third straight year. 2118 01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,479 Speaker 6: And like, these are legitimate storylines for the postseason. But 2119 01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,920 Speaker 6: I'll just say Dan Marino was great. 2120 01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,200 Speaker 4: Sure, there's plenty of samples. 2121 01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:04,679 Speaker 6: End of story. Well, and j Martinfouns was great. 2122 01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jmart brought up in hour one, is that like 2123 01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:11,040 Speaker 2: you know, you go through. Reggie Miller was great, Patrick 2124 01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,960 Speaker 2: Ewing was great. By the way, Lebron went to eighth 2125 01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,680 Speaker 2: straight NBA Finals, which means that, guess what. There were 2126 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,439 Speaker 2: great teams in the East. Remember every year. I mean 2127 01:43:19,479 --> 01:43:21,680 Speaker 2: I remember Dwayne Casey, I think one Coach of the 2128 01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,479 Speaker 2: Year and got fired because he couldn't beat Lebron the 2129 01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:28,200 Speaker 2: Raptors until you know, until Lebron left, the East could 2130 01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,880 Speaker 2: not get past them. They traded for Kawhi Leonard whatever. 2131 01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,360 Speaker 2: But like Carl Malone's career, Karl Malone. 2132 01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:37,120 Speaker 3: Think about Rick Adelman and those Spurs teams so many 2133 01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:39,640 Speaker 3: and the Lakers at the time, and yeah, I mean 2134 01:43:39,680 --> 01:43:42,320 Speaker 3: there's there's a lot of Hall of Fame just outstanding players. 2135 01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,479 Speaker 6: Sacramento team in two thousand and two would have been 2136 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,719 Speaker 6: NBA champions if they hadn't gagged the Game seven overtime 2137 01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:50,600 Speaker 6: against the Lakers, and. 2138 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:51,800 Speaker 4: The Trailblazers probably would have too. 2139 01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:53,720 Speaker 2: Right the year that they lost in Game seven, they 2140 01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:55,360 Speaker 2: had the eighteen point leader whatever in the second half 2141 01:43:55,360 --> 01:44:00,640 Speaker 2: of Yeah, so it's just, you know, it just I know, 2142 01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,720 Speaker 2: like foun Yeah, Like I understand it's our job to, 2143 01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:06,599 Speaker 2: you know, contextualize everything and be critical for the sake 2144 01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:09,639 Speaker 2: of being critical. But it sucks that one of those guys, 2145 01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,719 Speaker 2: Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson in a best case scenario, 2146 01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:14,879 Speaker 2: is going to lose in the second round. Of the playoffs, 2147 01:44:14,920 --> 01:44:17,280 Speaker 2: and it's just like, it sucks that one of them 2148 01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:19,400 Speaker 2: is gonna have to deal with another offseason of whatever, 2149 01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,600 Speaker 2: and then one of them is going to get to 2150 01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 2: an AFC championship game and if they don't win an arrowhead, 2151 01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:26,559 Speaker 2: the other one will be like, oh, well, look, I mean, 2152 01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:27,240 Speaker 2: you still kick it. 2153 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,960 Speaker 6: It's just it's just and it's not nothing. The postseason 2154 01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:30,719 Speaker 6: is not nothing. 2155 01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:34,080 Speaker 2: Well to your point, but fourteen and three, fourteen and 2156 01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:38,040 Speaker 2: three for the Buffalo Bills, six and zero in the division. 2157 01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:40,200 Speaker 2: I don't care how bad the division is. You're destroying 2158 01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:41,720 Speaker 2: everybody and. 2159 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,360 Speaker 6: They have the best turnover margin in the entire NFL 2160 01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:48,840 Speaker 6: this year, Buffalo Bills a plus twenty three turnover margin 2161 01:44:48,880 --> 01:44:52,000 Speaker 6: for the regular season. Thing with Lamar Jackson, though, there's 2162 01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,000 Speaker 6: just been so many, I think five playoff disappointments at 2163 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,760 Speaker 6: this point, and the offense has looked so bad in 2164 01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:01,120 Speaker 6: so many of those games. It started with a Charger's 2165 01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:04,280 Speaker 6: visit to Baltimore years ago when Anthony Lynn was coach 2166 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:08,200 Speaker 6: and the Chargers just rolled them for three quarters. It's 2167 01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:10,439 Speaker 6: I mean, a better team would have been up, you know, 2168 01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,920 Speaker 6: twenty four to not think at the time, so it's 2169 01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:17,280 Speaker 6: a lot of playoff losses with not much offense. That's 2170 01:45:17,320 --> 01:45:19,360 Speaker 6: what makes it a talking point. 2171 01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:22,680 Speaker 2: Nah, I get it, it does, it does. All right, 2172 01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:24,599 Speaker 2: thank you to Sagreb. A great evening. 2173 01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:25,479 Speaker 4: Get home safe. 2174 01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:29,519 Speaker 2: You'll be on tomorrow with Sunday Afternoon with Arnie Spanier, 2175 01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:33,559 Speaker 2: Chris Plank, et cetera, et cetera. All right, j mart So, 2176 01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,439 Speaker 2: I think what was it last week that we talked 2177 01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:41,320 Speaker 2: about the narrative that inside the NBA is actually more 2178 01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:44,360 Speaker 2: detrimental to the NBA than anything else. 2179 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:45,479 Speaker 4: It was a topic. 2180 01:45:45,479 --> 01:45:46,479 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was last week of the 2181 01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,360 Speaker 2: week before, but our colleague Jason McIntyre brought up a 2182 01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:53,240 Speaker 2: point on the Herd that he believes that inside the 2183 01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:56,759 Speaker 2: NBA and the discourse around inside the NBA is actually 2184 01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,960 Speaker 2: what's hurting the NBA. I love Jason McIntyre, he's great, 2185 01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,400 Speaker 2: great at what he does. I just fundamentally disagree. But 2186 01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:05,360 Speaker 2: after he said that, I don't know if he was 2187 01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,639 Speaker 2: the first one to kind of bring this up. JJ 2188 01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:11,000 Speaker 2: Reddick was asked about, you know, inside the NBA and 2189 01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:13,120 Speaker 2: how the NBA has covered This was about two two 2190 01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,120 Speaker 2: and a half weeks ago. He said, quote, I don't 2191 01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,200 Speaker 2: think we have done a good job of storytelling, of 2192 01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,920 Speaker 2: celebrating the game. If I'm a casual fan and you 2193 01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,599 Speaker 2: tell me every time I turn on the television that 2194 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,759 Speaker 2: the product sucks, well I'm not going to watch the product. 2195 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:29,200 Speaker 2: And that's really what has happened over the last ten 2196 01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:32,080 Speaker 2: to fifteen years. I don't know why, but it is 2197 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:36,480 Speaker 2: not funny to me. Didn't name inside the NBA directly, 2198 01:46:36,880 --> 01:46:39,120 Speaker 2: but it seemed like it was a pretty direct shot 2199 01:46:39,160 --> 01:46:42,280 Speaker 2: because inside the NBA, as we alluded to, has been 2200 01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:46,160 Speaker 2: more critical of the NBA than probably any media, certainly 2201 01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,080 Speaker 2: any media outlet covering the NBA. 2202 01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:48,720 Speaker 1: Well. 2203 01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:50,800 Speaker 4: I bring it up because during. 2204 01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:55,559 Speaker 2: A Celtics Timberwolves highlight the other night, Charles Barkley went 2205 01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,960 Speaker 2: on this rant, is. 2206 01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:59,559 Speaker 3: It she's just talking about folks? 2207 01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,920 Speaker 7: On he said something about we're the reason people aren't 2208 01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,200 Speaker 7: watching this craptic product. 2209 01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:04,640 Speaker 3: We got that. 2210 01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was like, we out there jacking up one 2211 01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,519 Speaker 7: hundred threes and JJ, I don't know Jason Monroe, I 2212 01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,600 Speaker 7: don't know who that is, but JJ, you come for 2213 01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:13,040 Speaker 7: the King. 2214 01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 4: You better not missed. 2215 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,559 Speaker 7: And I can get you, brother, because I got remember, 2216 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,639 Speaker 7: I got your Lakers games. 2217 01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:20,000 Speaker 4: You can't hote them flalls. 2218 01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:20,719 Speaker 3: They got. 2219 01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,320 Speaker 7: You're just a dead man walking. They got rid of 2220 01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:26,240 Speaker 7: Frank Vogel, who did a good job. They got rid 2221 01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:28,599 Speaker 7: of Darbnham, who did a good job. If you came 2222 01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:30,320 Speaker 7: out that thing and you were gonna change things with 2223 01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:31,280 Speaker 7: that same ugly. 2224 01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:32,120 Speaker 3: Girl you want them to hate with. 2225 01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:35,479 Speaker 2: By the way, first of all, that was awesome sound, 2226 01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:37,799 Speaker 2: but it is worth noting that I believe it was earlier. 2227 01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:38,120 Speaker 4: Today. 2228 01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:42,040 Speaker 2: JJ Reddick was asked about this. Do we have the 2229 01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:45,360 Speaker 2: sound Alex Tice shirt. Okay, let's get the sound. 2230 01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:49,120 Speaker 8: Gregon both showed me. I didn't make it all way 2231 01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:50,679 Speaker 8: all the way through the clip. I gotta be honest 2232 01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:58,840 Speaker 8: with you. My arresting heart rad is probably sixty four. 2233 01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:02,120 Speaker 8: I watched it, but it was for literally don't care. 2234 01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:07,360 Speaker 8: I have other thoughts, but don't care. 2235 01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,559 Speaker 4: First of all, my thought, my thought is this, you 2236 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:12,360 Speaker 4: say you don't. 2237 01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:15,200 Speaker 3: Care, and then you said, but I have other thoughts. Exactly, 2238 01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:17,360 Speaker 3: those two things don't work together. 2239 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:21,559 Speaker 2: Those two things don't work together. I obviously have thoughts 2240 01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:25,280 Speaker 2: on Charles Barkley coming at JJ Reddick. 2241 01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:27,040 Speaker 4: I'll give you the four first game. 2242 01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:32,559 Speaker 3: Ark This is what Barkley does and honestly, what he's saying. 2243 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,400 Speaker 3: The thing that I don't get about, I understand, like 2244 01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:41,280 Speaker 3: from the positive, from the optimism side, like what JJ 2245 01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:45,200 Speaker 3: Reddick is asserting here. But that's not those guys' job. 2246 01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:49,800 Speaker 3: Their job is not to puff up the league when 2247 01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:52,280 Speaker 3: it doesn't deserve it. And yes, they are uber critical. 2248 01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,320 Speaker 3: They are two of the best players that ever played, 2249 01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,639 Speaker 3: and they're incredibly outspoken about what they believe the game 2250 01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:01,080 Speaker 3: should be. And they are given in free reign by 2251 01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:03,559 Speaker 3: TNT by Turner and have been for a long time 2252 01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:05,960 Speaker 3: to just say what they what's on their mind, and 2253 01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,599 Speaker 3: to sit there and riff their own way. They don't 2254 01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:12,760 Speaker 3: break down all the offensive and defensive sets and all 2255 01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,200 Speaker 3: this to the degree that Zach Lowe and some other 2256 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:18,200 Speaker 3: guys might that that's not their role. They talk about 2257 01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,120 Speaker 3: the business of the NBA. They do talk about the 2258 01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,320 Speaker 3: money in the NBA and contracts and guys that are 2259 01:49:22,360 --> 01:49:24,120 Speaker 3: worth it and guys that are not, and things like that. 2260 01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:29,439 Speaker 3: But it's what they's it's not stick. They're just what 2261 01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:34,320 Speaker 3: they do. Their brand is that kind of content. It 2262 01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:37,320 Speaker 3: is that kind of thing. They're not saying, don't watch 2263 01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,639 Speaker 3: the product. The NBA stinks, But they are not going 2264 01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,160 Speaker 3: to sit there and say something they don't believe. They're 2265 01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:46,640 Speaker 3: not hype men. That's what makes them different. That's what 2266 01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:49,400 Speaker 3: makes them unique, and it's what makes them so valuable. 2267 01:49:50,040 --> 01:49:53,680 Speaker 3: Barkley in particular, because you know he is going to 2268 01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:58,479 Speaker 3: tell you exactly what he thinks about this player or 2269 01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,960 Speaker 3: this strategy, or this coach, or this ownership situation or 2270 01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,120 Speaker 3: all of that. No one is buying and paying his opinion. 2271 01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,599 Speaker 3: And whether or not you agree with it or think 2272 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:12,080 Speaker 3: it as stated as eloquently or as you know, basketball 2273 01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:15,160 Speaker 3: savvy as some other things, or all this kind of stuff, 2274 01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,320 Speaker 3: that's the that's the reason the guy has become such 2275 01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:21,679 Speaker 3: an icon. That's one of the that's that's what's gonna 2276 01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,759 Speaker 3: make him last long after his days on Earth are done. 2277 01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:28,439 Speaker 3: It's just the idea that you know that whatever Charles 2278 01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:31,240 Speaker 3: Barkley said was exactly what Charles Barkley wanted to say 2279 01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:34,320 Speaker 3: in that moment, that he was as genuine and as 2280 01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:38,360 Speaker 3: authentic with his commentary in that moment, sometimes to his detriment, 2281 01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:41,559 Speaker 3: he would probably admit, but that's why I love that show. Like, yes, 2282 01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,839 Speaker 3: they can be irreverent and funny and all that, and 2283 01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:47,080 Speaker 3: that was the other thing about the original quote from 2284 01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:49,840 Speaker 3: from JJ was like, I don't find it funny when 2285 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:52,000 Speaker 3: we're making fun of the league. It's like, well then, dude, 2286 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,559 Speaker 3: I hate that for you. Man, Like, there's a lot 2287 01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,920 Speaker 3: of stuff that happens in the NBA. It's really funny. 2288 01:50:57,000 --> 01:50:59,200 Speaker 3: I mean, the shockton of fool stuff. There's a reason 2289 01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:01,439 Speaker 3: that's been there for a long long time. It is 2290 01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:04,320 Speaker 3: because it's really really good. And they they're gonna poke 2291 01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:07,080 Speaker 3: fun at these guys. But I don't, look, I don't 2292 01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:11,680 Speaker 3: think the NBA players generally like don't like inside, like 2293 01:51:11,720 --> 01:51:13,880 Speaker 3: they'll have their beast, you know, Draymond had his beef 2294 01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:16,240 Speaker 3: for a little while and all this stuff. But I mean, 2295 01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:19,360 Speaker 3: come on, like those guys they know that that is 2296 01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:21,680 Speaker 3: important for the brand. I don't think that harms the 2297 01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:24,040 Speaker 3: NBA at all. If anything, it actually gives it more 2298 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,639 Speaker 3: relevance because I'm willing to watch inside the NBA even 2299 01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:28,760 Speaker 3: if I can't watch the games, and as such, I 2300 01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:31,320 Speaker 3: actually am still up to date on what's happening. And 2301 01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:34,080 Speaker 3: even if you want to look past the subjectivity that's 2302 01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:38,040 Speaker 3: happening for the players. Ernie is perfect in his role 2303 01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,120 Speaker 3: to make sure it gets brought back and the facts 2304 01:51:40,160 --> 01:51:43,840 Speaker 3: are mentioned around these opinions. I just this whole thing. 2305 01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,679 Speaker 3: I'm more on the Barkley side, and I just don't 2306 01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:50,080 Speaker 3: I just think Reddick's trying to try and clap back here, 2307 01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,240 Speaker 3: but I think he got stomped into the ground. 2308 01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think Barkley's point is, you know a 2309 01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:59,120 Speaker 2: point that I made when the hiring process went on, 2310 01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:01,559 Speaker 2: and I know I've said this a million times, but 2311 01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,559 Speaker 2: when Dan Hurley interviewed, I was like, why would you 2312 01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:08,800 Speaker 2: leave a great job as a coach somewhere else to 2313 01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,479 Speaker 2: go somewhere where you're inevitably gonna get fired? And it's 2314 01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:14,400 Speaker 2: why I didn't think the Lakers job was a great job. 2315 01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:16,320 Speaker 2: I think it's a bigger mess behind the scenes than 2316 01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:17,040 Speaker 2: people realize. 2317 01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:18,000 Speaker 4: That's not JJ. 2318 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:20,360 Speaker 2: Reddick's fault, but Charles Barkley's point about like, dude, you're 2319 01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,840 Speaker 2: a dead man walking like you know, talk your talk, chirp, 2320 01:52:22,840 --> 01:52:25,360 Speaker 2: but do whatever you want, but at some point Lebron's 2321 01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:28,120 Speaker 2: gonna turn on you. So so you know, you could 2322 01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,160 Speaker 2: come at us, but we're gonna be here longer than 2323 01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,000 Speaker 2: you're going to be with the Lakers. That he said 2324 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,120 Speaker 2: something about I actually watched your game something like that. 2325 01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,360 Speaker 2: But I like, I don't think anything that he said 2326 01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,400 Speaker 2: was even like. I think certainly the way that he 2327 01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:42,400 Speaker 2: delivered it was very Charles Barkley esque, But I don't 2328 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:45,960 Speaker 2: think anything that he said was incorrect. Is like, dude, 2329 01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,240 Speaker 2: you got the toughest job in the league. You're coaching 2330 01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:50,320 Speaker 2: a guy that's gonna want you out. I know you 2331 01:52:50,360 --> 01:52:53,120 Speaker 2: think you have all the answers right now, but you 2332 01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:57,360 Speaker 2: clearly don't. And listen, I did think the delivery was funny. 2333 01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,320 Speaker 2: I didn't think whatever to your point with Jaj, I 2334 01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,160 Speaker 2: thought it was one. I thought it was funny. Of 2335 01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:04,960 Speaker 2: the oh the what did he say? 2336 01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:07,200 Speaker 3: He said, my resting heart right is sixty. Yeah. 2337 01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:09,639 Speaker 2: First of all, shut up, Douchie, Like, shut up, Okay, 2338 01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:10,040 Speaker 2: we get it. 2339 01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,400 Speaker 4: You're smart. You wear a heart monitor when you work out, 2340 01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:13,040 Speaker 4: big freaky deal. 2341 01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,000 Speaker 2: Okay. Two, Well, and he said, uh, I don't care. 2342 01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:18,559 Speaker 2: I have more thoughts, but I don't care. It's like, well, 2343 01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:21,120 Speaker 2: you do care, buddy, It's okay. Just acknowledge that you care. 2344 01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:24,640 Speaker 2: It's whatever. And yeah, I thought I thought it was 2345 01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:26,519 Speaker 2: a fun back and forth. It certainly made a lot 2346 01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:29,200 Speaker 2: of headlines and uh yeah, certainly a lot of people 2347 01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:30,880 Speaker 2: sent it to me. I could tell you that much, 2348 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:35,160 Speaker 2: so I bad, yes, yes, uh long story. Torres and 2349 01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:38,479 Speaker 2: Reddick go back aways a long ways. But anyway, Fox 2350 01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:42,479 Speaker 2: Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin. One segment left and 2351 01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:44,439 Speaker 2: boy do we have a doozy for you. On the 2352 01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:47,960 Speaker 2: other side, we will wrap the show. We still got 2353 01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:50,040 Speaker 2: a lot to discuss Fox Sports Radio. 2354 01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:58,240 Speaker 9: Aaron, I got a hot take for you. Top five 2355 01:53:58,280 --> 01:53:59,320 Speaker 9: song of all time right. 2356 01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:02,320 Speaker 3: Here, top song of all time right here? 2357 01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,720 Speaker 4: Oh one, good man? 2358 01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:07,120 Speaker 3: Do you know? 2359 01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:09,719 Speaker 4: Do you know the story about this song and this show? 2360 01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:10,400 Speaker 4: Alex Teischer? 2361 01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,000 Speaker 9: Yes, okay, that's any time I'm hearing Jay's here, I 2362 01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,439 Speaker 9: play it. Wow, that's right, you did it Wednesday too, 2363 01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:16,840 Speaker 9: I'm man. 2364 01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:18,879 Speaker 4: That's why I noticed. 2365 01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,960 Speaker 2: That's why Alex Teischer is one employee of the of 2366 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,559 Speaker 2: the month six times in twenty twenty four. 2367 01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:25,600 Speaker 4: I don't know how many people know that. 2368 01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,040 Speaker 2: So I didn't know that. 2369 01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:32,200 Speaker 3: No, So I watched that whole Barkley clip during the break. 2370 01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:38,320 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, man, when he I mean, they wouldn't 2371 01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:41,240 Speaker 3: even further talking about how bad the Lakers are and 2372 01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:44,000 Speaker 3: that Reddick was just like I'm jj Riddick, I'm going 2373 01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:46,280 Speaker 3: to fix this, like he just buried him. And then 2374 01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:49,640 Speaker 3: he said he's like, talk about them being the reason 2375 01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:51,480 Speaker 3: the ratings were down. He's like, yeah, me and Shock, 2376 01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:53,600 Speaker 3: if we were playing, the ratings wouldn't be down. And 2377 01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:56,000 Speaker 3: he said, all fairness, wo'd probably be the third and 2378 01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:59,800 Speaker 3: fourth best Lakers. Now. I was just like, I couldn't 2379 01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:01,560 Speaker 3: hear this cratious. 2380 01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I did not hear that. 2381 01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:08,680 Speaker 2: I do think, I do think it is funny, Like 2382 01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:12,680 Speaker 2: you know, I do think there's something to what Barkley 2383 01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:17,360 Speaker 2: said about like, sorry, dude, you're destined to fail. The 2384 01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:19,840 Speaker 2: Lebron's gonna turn on you like you turn on everybody else. 2385 01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,080 Speaker 2: I know you think you're smarter than everybody. I know 2386 01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:25,200 Speaker 2: you're his old wine drinking buddy on the podcast and 2387 01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:26,000 Speaker 2: all that. 2388 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,200 Speaker 4: But I don't think it's gonna end well. 2389 01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,600 Speaker 2: Lakers, by the way, in fifth place right now, tied 2390 01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,120 Speaker 2: tied for the four spot really with Denver twenty and 2391 01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,360 Speaker 2: fourteen overall. Have you been paying attention to this Jimmy 2392 01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:38,000 Speaker 2: Butler story, I mean it's yeah, I. 2393 01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:39,760 Speaker 3: Got paying attention to his hair color. 2394 01:55:39,960 --> 01:55:42,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's WEIRDLL. What's the story on that do we 2395 01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:42,360 Speaker 4: know that. 2396 01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,480 Speaker 3: Well, he's apparently he's got colors that seem to replicate 2397 01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,400 Speaker 3: the teams that would make sense. 2398 01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,240 Speaker 2: For him to go to ooh what teams Like. 2399 01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:52,560 Speaker 3: He had orange for the Suns, he had different ones, 2400 01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:55,120 Speaker 3: and they were all like teams that would make sense 2401 01:55:55,160 --> 01:55:57,560 Speaker 3: for him to go try to win a championship as 2402 01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:58,400 Speaker 3: part of their roster. 2403 01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,920 Speaker 2: Very interesting. I did not know that part. I did 2404 01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:05,440 Speaker 2: see where he said I'm looking to get my joy 2405 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:09,080 Speaker 2: back in the insinuation being that, yeah, he ain't having 2406 01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:11,480 Speaker 2: very much joy with the Miami Heat right now. 2407 01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So NBA is going strong. 2408 01:56:14,920 --> 01:56:18,360 Speaker 2: Bronnie's probably the lead story so far, thirty four year 2409 01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:20,080 Speaker 2: old Jimmy Butler wanting a trade. 2410 01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:21,600 Speaker 4: I mean, what are the big. 2411 01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:23,880 Speaker 3: Story not just wanting not just wanting a trade like 2412 01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:25,440 Speaker 3: they're gonna give it to him. They're gonna give it 2413 01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:28,360 Speaker 3: to him. It just again, NBA players have all the power, 2414 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:32,560 Speaker 3: Like think he came out publicly and said it, and well, 2415 01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,240 Speaker 3: we're not gonna have somebody here that don't want to 2416 01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:36,440 Speaker 3: be here. We're gonna go ahead and move him and 2417 01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,560 Speaker 3: all this kind of deal. And I mean, the biggest 2418 01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,560 Speaker 3: stories in the league really, I mean that's sort of it, right, 2419 01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,880 Speaker 3: like you have that you have. Apparently, Kawhi Leonard has 2420 01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:47,320 Speaker 3: played a basketball. 2421 01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:49,280 Speaker 4: Against this season, thirty six games in. He's back. 2422 01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:50,800 Speaker 2: By the way, this guy was ready to play in 2423 01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:54,040 Speaker 2: the Olympics in July. Okay, he was on the Olympic 2424 01:56:54,120 --> 01:56:57,080 Speaker 2: roster and I don't know who sent him home. I 2425 01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,040 Speaker 2: asked Manzi about that on air the other day because 2426 01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:02,160 Speaker 2: she's our Clippers inside, and she kind of ducked the question. 2427 01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:04,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if that was like a Tailu decision 2428 01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:07,680 Speaker 2: or a Kawhi decision I have, or if it was 2429 01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:09,240 Speaker 2: just a I think it was a Clippers We're like, 2430 01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,400 Speaker 2: wait a second, now, you're gonna play in the Olympics, 2431 01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,960 Speaker 2: but you can't play here. I was gonna play in 2432 01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:20,240 Speaker 2: the Olympics in July. It's January fourth, twenty five. The 2433 01:57:20,280 --> 01:57:21,920 Speaker 2: Olympics concluded. 2434 01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:23,040 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that's been about six months. 2435 01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:23,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, mid August. 2436 01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. I did one. One cool story I 2437 01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,440 Speaker 3: will say real quick is Derek Rose. 2438 01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:31,040 Speaker 4: Oh I saw this, yes, yeah. 2439 01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:33,360 Speaker 3: Just they're going to retire his jersey. The Bulls are 2440 01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:36,280 Speaker 3: going to retire his jersey obviously, you know, kind of 2441 01:57:36,320 --> 01:57:38,760 Speaker 3: sidelined with his career with the injuries and all that 2442 01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,640 Speaker 3: kind of stuff, but him getting really emotional when he 2443 01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:43,880 Speaker 3: found out about it and then being able to film 2444 01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:46,040 Speaker 3: and stuff. It's just cool. I mean, it just feel 2445 01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:46,640 Speaker 3: good for him. 2446 01:57:46,920 --> 01:57:47,480 Speaker 4: Real quick. 2447 01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:50,280 Speaker 2: Why did Derick Grose not have the career that he 2448 01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:54,280 Speaker 2: did because he played so freaking hard that's right. He 2449 01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:58,080 Speaker 2: rushed back from injury yep, the first time, I believe, 2450 01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,360 Speaker 2: in the regular season, and so it's like, you know, 2451 01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:03,120 Speaker 2: that's a guy that's easy to roof for. And then 2452 01:58:03,160 --> 01:58:05,960 Speaker 2: as his career went on, you know, obviously became a mentor. 2453 01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,240 Speaker 2: Remember the last team he played for was the Memphis Grizzlies. 2454 01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:10,320 Speaker 2: They brought him in to try to help straight in 2455 01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:14,400 Speaker 2: job Moran out. So I mean it didn't go as planned, 2456 01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:16,880 Speaker 2: but it wasn't because that guy didn't love basketball, didn't 2457 01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:17,640 Speaker 2: leave it all on the court. 2458 01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:21,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, look, I feel good for him. 2459 01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:24,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's he definitely earned it based on what 2460 01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:25,920 Speaker 3: he what he put out there on the floor, and 2461 01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:27,520 Speaker 3: that's it. That's the kind of franchise where you get 2462 01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:29,440 Speaker 3: your jersey retired, you've done something. 2463 01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:34,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, really quickly. We got Lions tomorrow night. 2464 01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:37,640 Speaker 2: Elect the Lions on Sunday Night. Okay, Notre Dame Penn State. 2465 01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:38,800 Speaker 2: Do we have a final answer yet. 2466 01:58:38,760 --> 01:58:40,960 Speaker 3: Or no, Pence, I'm gonna go with Penn State. I'm 2467 01:58:40,960 --> 01:58:43,120 Speaker 3: not gonna I'm not gonna waiver again. I'm gonna stick 2468 01:58:43,120 --> 01:58:45,200 Speaker 3: with Penn State. But boy, I don't feel great about it. 2469 01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:46,800 Speaker 2: In Ohio State over over Texas. 2470 01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:48,240 Speaker 3: Yes, Ohio State over Texas. 2471 01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:49,200 Speaker 2: I I'll tell you. 2472 01:58:49,160 --> 01:58:50,360 Speaker 4: What we gotta get out of here. 2473 01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:52,320 Speaker 2: Want to thank the crew, Alex Tye shirt and for 2474 01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:55,320 Speaker 2: Mary Mack on the board, Producer Ian Steve de Saga, 2475 01:58:55,400 --> 01:58:56,680 Speaker 2: for my partner Jason Martin. 2476 01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,800 Speaker 4: I am er trus. Make sure to. 2477 01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:02,920 Speaker 2: Download the podcast wherever you get. Podcasts be available right 2478 01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:06,520 Speaker 2: after the show. Coming up next Bernie Fratto of The 2479 01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:08,720 Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto Show, Bernie Ha's got all sorts of good 2480 01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:11,560 Speaker 2: stuff On a busy Saturday in Sports, A busy Sunday ahead. 2481 01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:13,240 Speaker 4: This is Fox Sports. Tarni