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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I hope all of you are recovering from what was

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Speaker 1: I hope a spectacular Fourth of July weekend. I hope

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Speaker 1: you were out and about celebrating because of all the

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Speaker 1: left wing louns out there who are trying to make

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Speaker 1: you feel like the Fourth of July is the worst

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Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened on the planet. Stock market down big,

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Speaker 1: don't check your four oh one case again as inflation

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Speaker 1: fears continue to grow. Joe Biden has hit a new

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Speaker 1: low in his overall approval rating in the Monmouth poll,

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Speaker 1: which is one of those that pretty regularly sort of

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Speaker 1: trots out what exactly is going on. He is nearly

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Speaker 1: this is where I'm starting to pay attention now. He

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Speaker 1: is nearly at sixty percent disapproval thirty six percent approval.

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Speaker 1: And we know how much the polls have already been

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Speaker 1: biased in President Biden's favor fifty nine percent disapproval. Hitting

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Speaker 1: sixty percent disapproval is virtually unheard of. The people who

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Speaker 1: believe that the direction of our country is going in

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Speaker 1: the right direction. Ten percent. Joe Biden came into office

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Speaker 1: arguing that he was going to unite America. Well, so far,

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Speaker 1: what he has managed to do this is an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: stat Really, it's virtually impossible to do. Nearly ninety percent

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Speaker 1: of Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 1: That is near an all time low as long as

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Speaker 1: they have been pulling. We had a shooting in the

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Speaker 1: Chicago suburbs, which certainly is going to be discussed. It

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Speaker 1: appears that there is another crazy actor out there based

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Speaker 1: on this guy's social media profiles and buck what I'm

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Speaker 1: concerned about. We talked about this last week. Democrats appear

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Speaker 1: aware that they are going to lose the House. Potentially,

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Speaker 1: Republicans are going to have a one hundred year high

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Speaker 1: in the number of seats that they could have in

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Speaker 1: the House of Representatives and que the panic. That means

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Speaker 1: that Democrats may not be in power in the White

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Speaker 1: House and in Congress again for years. So what are

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Speaker 1: they talking about? A massive tax increase that reportedly they

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Speaker 1: need to get passed before the end of July, so

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Speaker 1: we need to run out the clock. There is lots

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Speaker 1: of jockeying going on on Capitol Hill with Senators and

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Speaker 1: congressmen set to return before they leave for the fall

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Speaker 1: campaign season. We are sitting at almost exactly four months

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Speaker 1: out from the mid term elections, and Buck Sexton was

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Speaker 1: trending all weekend, long after he took a shot at

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Speaker 1: the city of Asheville. I couldn't believe it. I was

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Speaker 1: sitting on the beach. I looked down at the trending

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Speaker 1: topics and Buck is at war with the good people

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Speaker 1: who hold the whole. I'm throwing a flag here, mister Clay.

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Speaker 1: I'm throwing a flag. I Asheville is a place with

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Speaker 1: great viewed, beautiful, very nice people. I arrived and I

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Speaker 1: just was a little bit taken aback, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know we should I want to get back to the

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Speaker 1: bigger news stories, although we should talk about this a

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Speaker 1: little bit, Clay. In downtown Asheville, there are not only

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Speaker 1: masks on most of the employees in stores and businesses

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Speaker 1: you come to us, which is shocking to you and

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Speaker 1: given it to North Carolina like even worse than New York.

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Speaker 1: It was worse than New York City and ninety five masks.

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Speaker 1: There were mask required songs on some stores. Most of

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Speaker 1: the stores that I saw because you know, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to go see. You know, it's Asheville. They're selling wind

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Speaker 1: chimes and patuli and whatever. Yeah, you know, I was

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Speaker 1: going to check out. I'm like, what's that smell? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I found out? And you walk into these stores and

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Speaker 1: they've got ND ninety five masks on, and they've got

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Speaker 1: and they've got these people walking around and I just said,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of I didn't I wouldn't make fun

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Speaker 1: Could we come back to this later, because I need

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Speaker 1: to dunk on some libs. There are some libs, some

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Speaker 1: blue checks you need to get dunked on. This is

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Speaker 1: now insane. They have a mental health issue. Wearing an

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Speaker 1: N ninety five as some kind of virtue signaling lunacy

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Speaker 1: and making employees do it. Well, we'll come back to that, though.

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Speaker 1: What do you say, because I want I want to

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Speaker 1: tee off on some individuals in particular who really deserve it.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, I had a lovely time in Ashville, Karen.

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Speaker 1: I had a great time, fun town, good food, lots

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Speaker 1: of trending the whole weekend. Long after you got there,

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Speaker 1: nationally trending Ashville. I don't know what what was the

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Speaker 1: last time Ashville nationally trended on Twitter? I don't know,

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Speaker 1: It's probably been a while, but yes, okay, So can

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Speaker 1: we talk about the So you're talking about the bidministration

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Speaker 1: at Clay and the polling, and obviously over this weekend

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Speaker 1: there were there were shootings that happened. There was the

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Speaker 1: And then when you look at the number of how

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Speaker 1: many people were also shot in the city of Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Clay idiots, mind blowing. Um. You know, we thought there'd

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Speaker 1: be a lot of shootings over the weekend, just because

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Speaker 1: historically there tend to be. There were this is Chicago city,

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Speaker 1: not including the mass shooting that occurred in Highland Park,

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Speaker 1: in the city itself Clay, over the fourth of July weekend,

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Speaker 1: seventy one people were shot, eight were killed. Seventy one people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I remember when I was, when I was,

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Speaker 1: war zones to the CIA. If we had had a

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Speaker 1: weekend we took seventy one military casualties, people would have said,

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Speaker 1: We would have been in the middle of the Battle

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Speaker 1: of Felujah or something. I mean, that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: people to get shot over a weekend. And we just

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Speaker 1: had a by quote by partisan, a number of senators

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Speaker 1: went along with this, and what did we say. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna stop shootings, and it's not even gonna stop

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Speaker 1: It's never, it's never like, Okay, we've gotten the laws right,

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Speaker 1: we now just have to enforce them better. Their goal

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Speaker 1: is to end the Second Amendment. Total, that's their goal.

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Speaker 1: That's it. And when we know this, so that's why,

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Speaker 1: when you know, we get the the moral the moral

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham went along with it. I hope people remember

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Speaker 1: who went along with this. Not only are we now

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Speaker 1: this mass shooting. And clearly didn't stop the seventy one

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Speaker 1: killed in Chicago over the weekend. Well, and it's symptomatic

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Speaker 1: And Buck, I'm afraid and I bet you also have

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Speaker 1: the same fear that to your point, the shootings overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: increase in the summer. There are a lot of reasons

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Speaker 1: And Buck, I try not to name ever the shooters

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Speaker 1: think that's the one thing that people who are like

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Speaker 1: say every time one of these guys shoots. You look

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Speaker 1: at their social media profile and you can watch one

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Speaker 1: always guys, is mentally unstable. And I can't impress upon

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Speaker 1: and even if this kid wasn't going to be a

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Speaker 1: mass shooter, you're like, this kid is seriously mentally out

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Speaker 1: I watch that guy's videos and I feel the same way, Clay.

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Speaker 1: You look at the shooter, and I'm by I agree

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Speaker 1: with with your general position. No, there's no need to

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Speaker 1: name him. It doesn't the name. His name doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: any good way of One of these guys are trying

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Speaker 1: But I mean, obviously, if there is a situation where

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Speaker 1: a hard and fast, rare exception. But but so you

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Speaker 1: look at this individual, the photos of him, and I mean,

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Speaker 1: this this instance. But you said, well, that guy's crazy. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean you look at him. He's got blue hair

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Speaker 1: eyes of these shooters. The kids. A psychopath, all right,

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Speaker 1: he's twenty two years old. He's a psychopath. And so

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Speaker 1: now we're gonna have a real conversation. He bought it legally,

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Speaker 1: the Second Amendment only covers muskets. We're gonna take all

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Speaker 1: But so none of the things they've talked about would

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Speaker 1: He's clearly unwell. So what can we do about this?

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Speaker 1: And now? And I asked this because I don't have

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Speaker 1: don't believe he had ever had he broken the law?

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Speaker 1: Was there any criminal record of I haven't seen any

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Speaker 1: criminal record. He had done nothing criminal before this? Are

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Speaker 1: how long do we hold him? Is this a life

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Speaker 1: sentence for being a psychopath? And I'm not asking this rhetorically,

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Speaker 1: This is someone who was deranged and there's seven billion

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Speaker 1: deranged maniacs. So what do we do. I think it's

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Speaker 1: there are some exceptions, is why did the mass shooter

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Speaker 1: Welcome again. Clay Travis buck Sexton Show appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: states need to have stricter gun laws. Why is it

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Speaker 1: that the other states with the stricter gun laws don't

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Speaker 1: actually have the same levels of gun violence they're talking

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Speaker 1: about the Red States? Of course, you know, Indiana is

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Speaker 1: where all the guns come from, Pennsylvania, from New York

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Speaker 1: is where all the guns come from. Why is it

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Speaker 1: that the city of Chicago has worse violence than any

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Speaker 1: city in I mean, my friend David Harsania Nashal Review

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Speaker 1: made a great databased argument on this. Look at San Francisco, Clay,

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Speaker 1: look at Los Angeles, Nevada's next door. You get a gun,

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Speaker 1: and Nevada no problem, right, I mean, you have to

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Speaker 1: go through the legal process. What I'm saying, it's it's

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Speaker 1: not it's a it's a gun friendly state, and yet

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Speaker 1: you don't have the same kind of shootings even in

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Speaker 1: California cities you're doing. Chicago's clearly a specific problem I

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Speaker 1: really come back to, and maybe this is just because

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Speaker 1: I've got three boys myself and fortunately my boys are

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Speaker 1: still young fourteen, eleven, and seven. And I know this

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Speaker 1: guy was twenty two, but where's his family? Same thing

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Speaker 1: happens in Buffalo. These are all young, incredibly troubled boys.

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Speaker 1: Where are the dads? And I mean this on a

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Speaker 1: larger scale. To me, this comes back to dads and

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Speaker 1: absent dads. I asked the question earlier in the show,

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Speaker 1: why are we seeing an outbreak of mass shootings and

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Speaker 1: violence from young, very troubled men? And I put it

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Speaker 1: on dads to a certain extent because I think there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of absent dads, but moms could be

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Speaker 1: involved too, Buck, If you and I can watch a

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Speaker 1: video of this kid twenty two years old, we can

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Speaker 1: talk about what age you want to call somebody a kid.

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Speaker 1: But same thing with the Uvalda shooter, same thing with

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo shooter. If we can look at their social

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Speaker 1: media profiles and in five minutes we can say this

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Speaker 1: kid is mentally unwell. Where are the parents? And I

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Speaker 1: say that as a dad of three, and I know

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there who are dads

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Speaker 1: and moms and grandparents and grandmas. But if we as

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Speaker 1: the general public, can look at these kids social media

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Speaker 1: profiles and immediately diagnosed that they're mentally unwell. How absent

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Speaker 1: are these parents that they're not doing something to try

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Speaker 1: to help their mentally unwell child. You know, I'd be

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Speaker 1: fascinated to hear from someone who deals with UH in

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Speaker 1: a clinical practice, deeply, deeply, you know, mentally unwell and dangerous. Right,

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Speaker 1: there's a huge and you know, ninety nine percent of

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Speaker 1: people who have mental health issues, including some pretty serious ones,

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Speaker 1: aren't a threat to anybody. It's just a question of

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Speaker 1: them having a fulfilling, you know, happy stable life. But

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Speaker 1: when you get into that one percent who are either

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Speaker 1: a danger to themselves or others, and that's I know

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Speaker 1: where uh, you know, psychiatrists have a duty to actually

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Speaker 1: tear usoft warnings. Yes, there are things they actually have

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Speaker 1: to do there. It can't just be you can't tell people,

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Speaker 1: you know, oh I'm planning something, you know, horrific, And

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Speaker 1: there's uh, there's a secrecy around that for mental health reasons.

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Speaker 1: But I would wonder. I think that they're might be

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Speaker 1: cases and I don't know, there might be cases where

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Speaker 1: you have an individual who is just I just I

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Speaker 1: don't know what saying an evil person, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: a psychopath and the parents and maybe hides it a

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Speaker 1: bit from the parents because this this individual front. We

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Speaker 1: know he was posting stuff. Did the parents know about

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Speaker 1: the posts? You know? Did he just seem like a

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Speaker 1: troubled kid? There are a lot of when I say kid,

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Speaker 1: I know he's twenty two, he's he looks honestly, part

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Speaker 1: of it that he looks like he's about team like

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Speaker 1: fourteen or fifteen, which is one of the things that

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are processing about this too.

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Speaker 1: But another part of this, Clay and I always preface this,

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Speaker 1: this is a hypothesis. I'm not asserting this as true,

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Speaker 1: but I do believe this is arguably true. I think

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Speaker 1: that the pandemic and the way that we were not

498
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Speaker 1: only lockdown, separated and immiserated, but also the constant fear

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Speaker 1: mongering and the we're all going to die. I think

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Speaker 1: that it was almost like a forced government panic and

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Speaker 1: nihi ism that for people, you know, for people like

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Speaker 1: you me, our audience, it was annoying, it was oppressive,

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Speaker 1: but you know, we're gonna roll and do what we

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Speaker 1: can do. Right, We're gonna keep on moving forward. But

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Speaker 1: people who are on that edge, you know, who already

506
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Speaker 1: were psychologically imbalanced. I think it may have pushed some

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Speaker 1: of them into a place where, you know, the circuitry,

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Speaker 1: the wiring, and their brains never really recovered. Again, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a doctor. It's just a hypothesis. But I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's crazy. I think there are many reasons, and

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Speaker 1: social media and the Internet in general have made people

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Speaker 1: who are crazy easier, easier able to connect with other

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Speaker 1: people who are crazy, and or encourage them to behave

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Speaker 1: in crazy fashion. Now, I think there's so much going

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Speaker 1: on there. The toxicity feeds on itself. We're gonna continue

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Speaker 1: to talk about this, and we'll open up phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Like we said, we'll take some of your calls maybe

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Speaker 1: next eight hundred two A two two eight two. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, I gotta tell you a lot of people

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Speaker 1: them in the past. I know a lot of you

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Speaker 1: you have to wear. They aren't comfortable, you don't want

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Speaker 1: to wear them around all day. That is no longer

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Speaker 1: the case when it comes to Wolf and Shepherd. They

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Speaker 1: brought athletic shoe innovation to dress shoes. He basically merged

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Speaker 1: them get together in a style that I wear. It's

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Speaker 1: in all day long, and they're also shoes when suddenly

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Speaker 1: you have to go out and dress up a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you wear them too. They've got full grain Italian leather

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Speaker 1: on the top side, but on the bottom side they've

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Speaker 1: got athletic souls underneath. It's a great looking shoe that's

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Speaker 1: also very comfortable. Buck and I wear them everywhere. I've

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Speaker 1: got him down here with me in Florida. I can

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Speaker 1: wear them out to nice restaurants, and I'm taking them

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Speaker 1: and a book. Welcome You, Sorry, Welcome back in Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis buck second show at com forgot. I was supposed

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Speaker 1: to give you the welcome there, but we're both welcoming

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Speaker 1: you when the lines are open. Eight hundred two two

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Speaker 1: two eighty two. So give you a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a roadmap. Next hour, we'll talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: latest data. What a voters care about? What do the

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Speaker 1: people of this country actually care about? Right now? Here's

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Speaker 1: a hint, it's not January sixth, And how is the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration doing in response to all these concerns? Here's

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Speaker 1: another hint, really poorly. We'll discuss that the state of

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Speaker 1: the economy. Gavin Newsom poking around, it's got some Florida envy,

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Speaker 1: poking around down in Florida, saying moved to California from Florida.

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Speaker 1: I would see in this video would be app Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would love to place bets on you know what

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Speaker 1: the numbers are here? How many Floridians are gonna say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: send me to the place where the major cities have

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Speaker 1: a special app to help you avoid stepping in human

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Speaker 1: poop or on needles, because that's a real thing. In

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, which, as we've said, should be the most

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Speaker 1: beautiful city. Probably in America. It's an amazing city. They

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Speaker 1: have ruined it. California was an amazing state. You and

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Speaker 1: I grew up in the nineties in America. California was

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Speaker 1: the Promised Land. California gave us Ronald Reagan. People forget this.

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Speaker 1: California was a Republican state, solidly in presidential elections until

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Speaker 1: about the mid nineties. And massive illegal immigration. And anyway,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about there, and so we'll

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Speaker 1: get to it. Let's do you wanta do some calls

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Speaker 1: because people are fired up. Obviously, let's shout all the

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Speaker 1: news of the day. Let's do it. Michael in Greenwood,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Hey, Michael, how you doing. I'm doing one

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Speaker 1: of them. We're good, sir. Thanks for calling him. What's

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Speaker 1: on your mind? Uh? The hate for one dying? But

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Speaker 1: I was just thinking about the mass shootings. Has got

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with the guns, because they have stopped

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Speaker 1: so much of the law enforcement, allowing them to run

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Speaker 1: their job. I think, yeah, sorry, no. I first of all,

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Speaker 1: good luck with the heat. It is like one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty degrees all over the South right now. But

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Speaker 1: I think the challenge, Michael, you're right. They've stopped people

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Speaker 1: from being able to do their jobs. Here's the thing, though,

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Speaker 1: even a cop doing a perfect job, if this kid

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Speaker 1: does not have a record and he's legally able to

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Speaker 1: buy a gun, I don't know what police could have

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Speaker 1: done to stop this from happening. I mean, I could

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Speaker 1: sell this for particular even thank you for calling in, Michael, Uh,

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Speaker 1: thank you for calling in, Clay, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: could have been done either to stop this other than

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Speaker 1: what I suggested, And and that is in the moment

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Speaker 1: I bring this up. I know what people are thinking.

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Speaker 1: Involuntary commitment, perhaps for years, perhaps for decades, for someone

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Speaker 1: who hasn't committed a crime. Are we going to trust

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Speaker 1: the health bureaucracy in the States or even at the

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Speaker 1: federal level to make those kinds of I mean, the

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Speaker 1: answer is obviously no. So then what do you do?

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Speaker 1: I think it has to be the parents and Buck.

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Speaker 1: That's why I keep coming back and I'm saying it.

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Speaker 1: And no one wants to believe that they're you know,

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Speaker 1: that their their offspring is going to be a matter

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Clay. I mean, until someone

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Speaker 1: does something awful, no one wants to believe it I

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Speaker 1: get it, But when they when you, when you and

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Speaker 1: I can see the videos this kid is posting and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that kids should have a gun. I'm

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Speaker 1: not even sure that kids should have a driver's license. Hardly, Like,

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Speaker 1: where are the parents? They have to have way more

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Speaker 1: evidence that their kid has got cheological issues? Then what

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Speaker 1: you and I who were not trained psychiatrists, but could

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Speaker 1: watch that and say, hey, would I want my kid

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Speaker 1: hanging out with that kid? The answer is one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent no, just based off at three minute video. Then

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Speaker 1: how are the parents this clueless? I mean there is

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Speaker 1: something about the bearing and the the you know, the

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Speaker 1: some of the stylistic and appearance choice a lot of

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Speaker 1: these school shooters and maybe they patterned themselves at some

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Speaker 1: last I think there's probably also the Columbine shooters, right,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's a part of this. But these individuals,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not someone it's not the Capital

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Speaker 1: of lacrosse team who took the you know, who took

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Speaker 1: the prom queen to prom? Who's doing these things? Like

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Speaker 1: we all see, there are these markers that tend to be.

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Speaker 1: You know, they tend to be the loaners and the certain,

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Speaker 1: you know, stylistic choices. And I mean this kid that

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Speaker 1: tattoos all over his neck and his face, which not

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Speaker 1: to be overly judgmental, but I mean that's often a

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Speaker 1: sign of someone who's having a tough time. I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair to say the face tattoos is usually that's

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Speaker 1: a bold choice. So I mean, you know, old choice

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Speaker 1: would be a very kind Yes, it's a bold choice.

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Speaker 1: M Jamie and Upstate New York, what do you got

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Speaker 1: for us? Jamie lay Out and everybody in the country

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Speaker 1: that listen to your shoul can hear the way this

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Speaker 1: really truly is from a perspective of somebody that grew

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Speaker 1: up with guns in Upstate New York. When we were

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Speaker 1: six years old and seven years old, we were allowed

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Speaker 1: to join the Rotten Gun Club with our fathers. Our

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Speaker 1: fathers shot and shot in senior classes. We as children

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Speaker 1: shot in the junior classes. As we got older, we

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Speaker 1: shot and we shot ski classes in our father's shot ski.

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Speaker 1: We hunted with our dads, we hunted with our grandfathers.

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Speaker 1: We hundred with our uncles. We didn't have the ability

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Speaker 1: to be able to have cars when we were at

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Speaker 1: that age ten eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, you can have

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Speaker 1: a driver's license. How did we get the guns to

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Speaker 1: the to the different events after school? We took them

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Speaker 1: on the school bus. They came on the school bus

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Speaker 1: with us. They went to the principal's office. They were

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Speaker 1: given to miss you know, the lady that took the

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Speaker 1: morning speech. He put them in a clause that the

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Speaker 1: ammunition went and the principles of filing cabinet. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the school day at two twelve, you went

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Speaker 1: to your locker, you got your books, You stopped at

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Speaker 1: the office, you got your your rifle, you got your ammunition,

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Speaker 1: You got on the bus that you were had to

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Speaker 1: go on to go to the assigned event. Now, Jamie,

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Speaker 1: that's a federal crime, right, So we get what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Man, thank you for what I think.

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Speaker 1: It's significant. As he was saying, dads and uncle's grandfathers

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Speaker 1: were all involved. Play. My dad took me and my

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Speaker 1: brothers to the rain starting when I was about nine

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Speaker 1: years old. Where are the dads play? Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton on the front Line of Truth one