WEBVTT - Braves Country uproar, Giants trade seller aftermath w/Susan Slusser

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, we're talking to Susan Slesser right now, San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>Chronicle and a regular guest on splash It Territory with

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Affelt and Scott Ostler. Those two new to the

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<v Speaker 1>party on that show. Really excited about it. Please make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you check it out. Susan, great to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the big stuff. What did you think

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<v Speaker 1>of what the giants did here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Tony I Fraiitella kind of put it perfectly yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>called it pure chaos. It was his first trade deadline

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<v Speaker 2>and wow, you're a manager and suddenly you lose six

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<v Speaker 2>guys off your roster.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Buster Posey got very good value, which he

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<v Speaker 2>did last year at the trade deadline. I think he

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<v Speaker 2>has a knack for this. It's not just him, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Zach Manazi and Paul me and Jeremy Shelley, like

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<v Speaker 2>the whole group. They seem to know exactly what they're

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<v Speaker 2>going for every trade deadline. It's a shame there in

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<v Speaker 2>that position, right, but they're not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 3>This year.

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<v Speaker 2>They did the practical and right thing, and the surprise

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<v Speaker 2>was trading three guys with service time left starting with

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<v Speaker 2>Elliott Ramos, and you mentioned Eric Miller just a moment ago.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a very interesting deal with Marcel and

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<v Speaker 2>Meyer coming back and Caleb Gillian going in their Rise deal,

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<v Speaker 2>so all of those are a little bit surprising. But

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<v Speaker 2>they clearly are targeting young starting pitching, pitching in general,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what they need.

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<v Speaker 4>Susan. The fact that they had six guys that other

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<v Speaker 4>teams wanted is pretty amazing for as bad as they've

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<v Speaker 4>been this year, So there's something there, right, But they

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<v Speaker 4>obviously had to trade other than a Rise, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of guys that had service time, and that's what teams

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<v Speaker 4>are looking for. And I give Buster a lot of credit.

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<v Speaker 4>He had pieces that other teams wanted, and he said,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, I'll get rid of them even if

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<v Speaker 4>they do have service time left over, because I can

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<v Speaker 4>get more players back that we can evaluate and we

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<v Speaker 4>can try to develop. This was absolutely the right way

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<v Speaker 4>for the Giants to go about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And they were trading, of course from positions where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, first of all, the two relievers with service

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<v Speaker 2>time left, that's an area where they really have to

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<v Speaker 2>rebuild that bullpen in the off season. They're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to go after a lot of free agents there

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<v Speaker 2>to really make that a solid bullpen.

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<v Speaker 3>They know that.

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<v Speaker 2>And then with the outfield, they've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>good young outfielders, so I think they feel pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>about about where they are with that second base. You

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<v Speaker 2>trade Luis Arise, who was just I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 2>the best part of their season, the best story. Wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're bringing in somebody like Marcella Meyer Meyer

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<v Speaker 2>he is going to benefit just as much as a

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<v Speaker 2>Rise did from working with Ron Washington. So that's something

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<v Speaker 2>to consider too. This all of this was done with

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<v Speaker 2>the plan in place. You can see it, and to me,

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<v Speaker 2>what's really interesting is we now get to see Tony

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<v Speaker 2>Vaitello work with young players. Right now, the Giants have

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<v Speaker 2>seven rookies on the team. They've got five guys with

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<v Speaker 2>under two years of experience. This is sort of supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be his wheelhouse.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, wins and losses aren't really gonna matter this

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<v Speaker 2>final two months. But do these guys improve, do they

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<v Speaker 2>play fundamental fundamentally well, do they make the right decisions?

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<v Speaker 2>These are the sort of things that I think the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants are going to want to see and this is

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<v Speaker 2>how we finally judge Tony Vittello, who was not really

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<v Speaker 2>in a position to succeed with that roster and was

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<v Speaker 2>in a steep learning curve himself.

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<v Speaker 1>What about anyone you were surprised didn't move, even if

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<v Speaker 1>it was not just talking about yesterday. I'll bring up

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<v Speaker 1>one guy who I'm just surprised doesn't have more league

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<v Speaker 1>interest if the Giants eats some money. The perception of

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<v Speaker 1>Willia Damas, who still has pop and you know, is

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<v Speaker 1>a whatever four win player or something close to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think would play better outside of San Francisco

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the bat. And it's not like the

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<v Speaker 1>bat hasn't had pop in San Francisco, which is very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to do him and anyone else that You're like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder why the league isn't interested in that player.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Willy and Matt Chapman both have no

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<v Speaker 2>trade clauses. That complicates things. And of course the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>complication for Chapman Dever's a Damas is those huge contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>The Giants I think would have paid down a little,

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<v Speaker 2>but they weren't looking like, look, these guys are for

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<v Speaker 2>more valuable even with these big salaries and long deals.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you know you're not going to throw thirty million

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<v Speaker 2>at a team just to get rid of a guy,

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<v Speaker 2>even if the return is okay, which it probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be if you're asking a team to take on one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million plus. So I think it just from again,

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<v Speaker 2>from a practical hill standpoint, I think Willia Domas, Matt Chapman,

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Hildevers are probably worth more. Even on those big contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what you're going to get. Domicis down year,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt about it, but he has not been healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>That is something that is going kind of very overlooked

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<v Speaker 2>right now. Chapman's on the il. Of course, Endeavors is

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<v Speaker 2>going to have another thirty plus home run season, even

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<v Speaker 2>playing at Oracle Park. So none of that's really surprised me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there were some teams that kicked the

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<v Speaker 2>tires on all of them. I think they got calls

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<v Speaker 2>on all of them. But I don't think that there

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<v Speaker 2>was any chance that teams were going to pick up

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<v Speaker 2>the entire deal, which probably you know, was what it

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<v Speaker 2>was really going to take.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we know why no one's interested in the Damas.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's be honest, he doesn't work very hard according to

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<v Speaker 4>everyone out there, Susan, you wrote it. You wrote it,

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<v Speaker 4>You're trying to bury another player. I know how your

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<v Speaker 4>dastardly deeds are, Susan out there in San Francisco, So.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta get context.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you clear this up for us? Why Willia Damas

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<v Speaker 4>and Tony Vtello had to come out and say, well,

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<v Speaker 4>he works just as hard as he's supposed to. What

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<v Speaker 4>are we talking about here?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, you know. I asked Willy about this about two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks before the Friday Apple TV broadcasts, which is where

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<v Speaker 2>it was brought up that Ron Washington had said he's

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<v Speaker 2>not available to work with me every day. I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to work with him every day. Ron Washington said the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing to me. He said the same thing I

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<v Speaker 2>think to numerous people. He would like to get Williadamas

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Willy is not having a good season. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>Willy knows that. There is a reason I talked. I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to Willie. He's play not a secret. He has

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<v Speaker 2>a bad back, but he has to maintain aj you know,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the modern day, players are really careful and

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<v Speaker 2>the training staffs are very careful with the whole idea

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<v Speaker 2>of if you're limited in some way but you're playable,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to cut back in other areas, and in

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<v Speaker 2>this case, it's on field work when you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>bad back. That kind of makes sense. Tony Vitella's point was,

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<v Speaker 2>Ron Washington is really here to work with the guys

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<v Speaker 2>who needed the help. Luis arrives number one, and look

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<v Speaker 2>what he did with him number two. Rafield Diver's playing

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<v Speaker 2>a new position, Bryce Eldridge playing a new position. You

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<v Speaker 2>look at the left side and it's Chapman and Adamis.

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<v Speaker 2>These are guys who have played these positions their entire lives.

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<v Speaker 2>They do know what they're doing there, and Adamis's back

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<v Speaker 2>injury is something that they have to be concerned with.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's really kind of where maybe where

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<v Speaker 2>the disconnect was. I know Ron Washington knows that Willie's

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with the bad back. And another thing that I

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<v Speaker 2>think completely goes under the radar when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>Adamas in the work he's doing. He does work with

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong Washington several times a week. I mean, we're out

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<v Speaker 2>there in the dugout.

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<v Speaker 3>We see it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like he's just ignoring it. He's out there

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<v Speaker 2>doing that work. It's just not every day the way

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<v Speaker 2>a Rise was doing, the way Bryce Eldridge is doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's for a different reason. They're new to those spots,

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<v Speaker 2>or in a Rise case, really trying to change his reputation,

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, next question, And I love Ron Washington. I played

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<v Speaker 4>round with for Ron Washington. Why did he say this

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<v Speaker 4>if he's out there? Did he just mean did he

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<v Speaker 4>just mean that he washed? He was out there seven

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<v Speaker 4>days a week, and that was what he meant by

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<v Speaker 4>and he got a little bit taken out of the

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<v Speaker 4>way he meant it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Ron Washington sees a guy who's having

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<v Speaker 2>a subpar year defensively a lot of that because the

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<v Speaker 2>back end his natural inclination is to think I can

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<v Speaker 2>fix him, and he probably could I And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably frustrating for him. I'm sure it's frustrating for

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<v Speaker 2>Will in fact really said I would love to work

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<v Speaker 2>with him. I think they're on the same page there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Wash just kind of wishes it and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>says it a little bit too much to to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>people they don't have the context about what's what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on there? I think it's all coming from a great place,

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. Everybody wants the same thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I agree, I totally agree. I love Wash, So

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want anyone to think that I'm taking a

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<v Speaker 4>shot at Wash. By the way, was there any talk

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<v Speaker 4>with Buster Posey and the Phillies when they traded Luisa

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<v Speaker 4>Rise that Ron Washington had to go with him to

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<v Speaker 4>Philly or was that possibly a throw in and maybe

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<v Speaker 4>they could have got another prospect back?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I think Ron Washington leaves Luisa Rise

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<v Speaker 2>like in the absolute, but like he's graduated. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he knows exactly how to follow the Ron Washington method.

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<v Speaker 2>He's good, he's good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>He is fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the next the next guy is Marcella Meyer.

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<v Speaker 2>So and you know, continuing with Bryce Eldridge, who's still

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<v Speaker 2>a work in progress at at first base, and plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of of other young guys. So I'm sure we will

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<v Speaker 2>see popping in and out here and there. Wash is

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<v Speaker 2>always going to stay busy. I think he said he

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<v Speaker 2>had five guys on the field the other day, like

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<v Speaker 2>one after another. It was a very hot day too

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<v Speaker 2>in San Diego, and Wash was just tripped with sweat.

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<v Speaker 2>He's seventy four. We worry a little bit, but that

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<v Speaker 2>talk about work ethic, that guy's got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, we haven't talked to you since the Harrison Vader

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<v Speaker 1>scooter incident, so I wanted to get your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on there. And I know he was already out,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they're not going to pay him until he

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<v Speaker 1>is able to play baseball again, So what do you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also complicated, and you know, we would really probably

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<v Speaker 2>have to have a look at the actual contract and know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have a very legal background in things like

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<v Speaker 2>contracts and the CBA and all of that to determine

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison Bader's future. My guess is at this point, probably

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<v Speaker 2>both parties would like to just move on from it somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Clearly the Giants are not happy with Harrison, and he

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<v Speaker 2>is understandable. He re injured and already injured foot and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of made a consult that was supposed to determine

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<v Speaker 2>the direction of his treatment and hope to getting him

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<v Speaker 2>back this year. That ruined that essentially, that consult, So

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, the specifics I think are kind of known.

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<v Speaker 2>We would like to know a little bit further. The

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<v Speaker 2>Giants say they're still investigating. Certainly it was a very

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<v Speaker 2>late at night incident in front of the Balboa Cafe,

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<v Speaker 2>which is very popular bar in the Marina, very lively.

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<v Speaker 2>You know the reports of eyewitnesses saying he drove into

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<v Speaker 2>the back of a fire truck. This is all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of not great, So the Giants suspending and without pay.

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<v Speaker 2>There is language in most contracts and Aja you would

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<v Speaker 2>know this about you know, things that you're not supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do. But one of those things I'm told pretty

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<v Speaker 2>standard is not driving a motorized vehicle while impaired. And

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<v Speaker 2>of course there's language about personal responsibility, especially for not

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<v Speaker 2>being injured away from the job.

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<v Speaker 4>Susan last thing. First of all, you should never drive

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<v Speaker 4>a vehicle impaired, whether you're a baseball player, anything in life,

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<v Speaker 4>So let's get that out there. And second of all,

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<v Speaker 4>as a former Giant great as you know, and as

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<v Speaker 4>a former person that's been to the Barrier plenty of times,

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<v Speaker 4>we've all been to the Balboa Cafe. Okay, we've all

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<v Speaker 4>had a good time at the Balboa Cafe. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>not knock Earrison Beta for being hurt being at the

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<v Speaker 4>Balboa cafe. We could get mad at him for taking

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<v Speaker 4>the scooter, but we've all been to the Balboa Cafe

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<v Speaker 4>and had a nice time there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, you click, but you know what if

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<v Speaker 2>you've got a foot injury Andrew going out for a

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<v Speaker 2>fun evening, there's so many options now, Yeah, take an uber,

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<v Speaker 2>get a driver. You know, he's at an income level

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<v Speaker 2>where getting a driver seems like a great I would

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<v Speaker 2>totally do that, So there are responsible ways to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>True, Well, hopefully it's back on the field.

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<v Speaker 4>Not his first swater accident either. By the way he

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<v Speaker 4>got into one college which also he would think he

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<v Speaker 4>would know not to be on a scooter.

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<v Speaker 1>Well as long time ago, but now he's definitely he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably done. I feel about He's a he's a great

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<v Speaker 1>dude too. He's just awesome to cover. He's fun to watch,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's just fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, guys, there were teams that did

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<v Speaker 2>have some interest in him if there was any chance

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<v Speaker 2>that he was going to be healthy down the stretch.

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<v Speaker 2>People know what he did with the Phillies last year,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's an extra level. But like for both the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants and for Bader, he could have been helping a

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<v Speaker 2>contender down the stretch if he actually had a console

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<v Speaker 2>that led to him being able to play maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>last six weeks or so.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that fasciitis ain't no joke, Susan, I've got it.

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<v Speaker 4>It sucks. And I don't know if I could ride

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<v Speaker 4>a scooter with fasciotis. And although I also got mine

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<v Speaker 4>in San Francisco, so maybe there's something about the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't call it. Yeah, you think they they started

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<v Speaker 1>off they're fascis. Okay, we'll tune into the nex conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>theory with favor. He's a kid. Yeah, Susan, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm not kidding about getting flash fest shal I

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<v Speaker 4>know you.

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<v Speaker 1>Got fassyis in Kansas, No, San Francisca. Yes, very well aware.

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<v Speaker 1>We know AJ's life. That's a weird one.

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<v Speaker 4>That is weird when you walk thirty thousand steps, when

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<v Speaker 4>you walk from up the hills, you walk from the

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<v Speaker 4>four Seasons to the wharf to the what's the place

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<v Speaker 4>where the invented Irish coffee, and then you decide to

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<v Speaker 4>walk back to the wharf, and then you walk back

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<v Speaker 4>Vista In or whatever, and then you walk back to

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<v Speaker 4>the Yeah, but then you go all through the it

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<v Speaker 4>was I ended up with like thirty thousand steps and

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<v Speaker 4>I got back to my room and I was like, out,

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<v Speaker 4>what's wrong with my foot?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm like, oh, it seems like a driver's situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Exercise, Susan, I'd rather be outside carbon footprint the whole

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<v Speaker 4>thing drop.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, There is a there's a happy medium,

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<v Speaker 2>ah between exercise and thirty thousand steps.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fifteen thousand season. Thank you appreciate it, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>catch you on some splash Hit episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, thanks guys.

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<v Speaker 1>out west. He's excited about the new opportunity instead of

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<v Speaker 4>You know, sometimes you need that, Okay, Yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>he's excited. He's going to go and he's gonna get

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunity to play every day. But wasn't he kind

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<v Speaker 4>of getting that in Boston or No.

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<v Speaker 1>They were bouncing him around a little bit. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is going to work out well where Buster Posey's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna say here you go, have fun, go take off. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, but still every day, same spot. You know

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<v Speaker 1>they were bouncing them around. There's just there's These are

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<v Speaker 1>two very different front offices. Boston's gonna get a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more cute and San Francisco is going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more traditional. With the way that Posey looks at things.

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<v Speaker 4>That's their I don't know. Listen, of course he's enthused.

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<v Speaker 4>He got out of Boston where he wasn't you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Now he's going. Here's the thing about this, as a

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<v Speaker 4>young player, unless you're a star right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 4>I might trout someone like that, you're honestly a better

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<v Speaker 4>equipped as a player to go to a bad team

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<v Speaker 4>to come up. Now, the Brewers, they do, but Brewers

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<v Speaker 4>are probably the one team where they play their young

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<v Speaker 4>guys a lot. But a young guy with the Dodgers,

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<v Speaker 4>where's he going to play? Dalton rushing. Perfect example, Will

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<v Speaker 4>Smith didn't get hurt. He doesn't get to play no

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<v Speaker 4>name another position where they play a young guy.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point, Pajes broke through. But it's really.

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<v Speaker 4>Pie went through some ups and downs. Oh ups, and

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<v Speaker 4>they were like, we hate this guy. Remember last year,

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<v Speaker 4>we hate this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Vargas went through that for a short period.

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<v Speaker 4>Of got shifted to Chicago, and now he's thriving because

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<v Speaker 4>he got to go and play every dingy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great point.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, when you're a young kid, it's hard. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's get into the Braves. His is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>joining us right now from the athletic covering this team Hazers.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you. And I know Braves Country is

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<v Speaker 1>livid right now. They feel like they were totally ripped

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<v Speaker 1>off from what should have happened at the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you're seeing the comments and all of that too.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into this. What happened? What did they

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<v Speaker 1>try for? What did Alexanthopolis tell you after the deadline?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think to say Braves Country were upset might

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<v Speaker 3>be an understatement. I mean to see the reaction all

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<v Speaker 3>throughout a social media people calling it to the radio

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<v Speaker 3>stations and just a general reaction. It was clearly disappointment.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's not just you know us who

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<v Speaker 3>said it. There's been multiple outlets that have you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Braves as the losers of the trade deadline, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's a that's unfortunate because you look at this team

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<v Speaker 3>and the starting lineup passed stars everywhere, right from Akunya

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<v Speaker 3>to Olsen to Drake Ballwin to Ozzie Alby's to Michael Harris,

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<v Speaker 3>every single we're in that line that that's one of

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<v Speaker 3>the toughest lineups that you're going to face you out

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<v Speaker 3>all of baseball. The issue has been while the starting

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<v Speaker 3>pitching as of late has been pretty well so far,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason they went into that June swoon, I think

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<v Speaker 3>also had to do with the fact that the starting

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<v Speaker 3>pitching was not getting deep into the games. The hulpen

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<v Speaker 3>was getting over tax and as a result too, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like when the starting pitching starts to not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>perform with the results that you want to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to do, it creates this ripple effect within the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the team. And you know, I think that's a

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<v Speaker 3>fair assessment to make. Now, what could have they done

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<v Speaker 3>at the trade deadline. They could have added pitching, and

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<v Speaker 3>they did. They added Tyler Molly, which didn't cost him much.

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<v Speaker 3>It cost him a reliever who was probably going to

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<v Speaker 3>get designated for assignment in the coming days. To make move.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a good addition for them to do. But

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<v Speaker 3>that was it. That was it. There was no Casey Mize,

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<v Speaker 3>there was no Freddy Perol, there was no anybody else

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<v Speaker 3>that was at it. They are going out with a rotation.

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<v Speaker 3>And I put it this tweet yesterday. If the playoffs

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<v Speaker 3>started tomorrow, it would be Chris Sale fantastic, absolutely, then

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce Elder, then Tyler Molly in this case, and then

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<v Speaker 3>one of Martine Perez or Grant Holmes. And you look

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<v Speaker 3>at what the Dodgers have going on right now, objectively speaking,

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<v Speaker 3>can that pitching staff go toe to toe with them

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the year when it comes to

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<v Speaker 3>a playoff push or when it comes to matching the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 3>Objectively speaking, A lot of people would agree that that's

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<v Speaker 3>not the case. And Anthopolos was pretty clear in the

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<v Speaker 3>postgame interview that they had a goal in mind, that

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<v Speaker 3>they had a goal in mind, and it was just

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<v Speaker 3>simply to make the team better, and to his point,

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<v Speaker 3>the team did get better, but does it move the needle?

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<v Speaker 3>The needle I think a lot of people are seeing

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<v Speaker 3>that it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and has we have that sound? So let's play that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I want to get your reactions since you

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<v Speaker 1>were part.

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<v Speaker 3>Of that, Hey, I mean, considering the strength of the

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<v Speaker 3>Braves farm system, how do you evaluate the decision to just,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, add Tyler Molly when you know you see

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<v Speaker 3>other teams like the Padres who have significantly less than

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<v Speaker 3>you guys acquire much more.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't understand that question. It just the way you

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<v Speaker 6>worded that just doesn't make any sense. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 6>how Tyler Molly does. And you can have your thoughts

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<v Speaker 6>and your opinions. And that's great. And obviously, like I

0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:32.360
<v Speaker 6>said the other day, when you'd ask me, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 6>find out obviously in a month or two or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>It is our farm system. Yeah, it's strong. I totally

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<v Speaker 6>agree with you. That's one thing I do agree with

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<v Speaker 6>you on. It is strong. People asked about a lot

0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:45.600
<v Speaker 6>of our top players, and there's a bunch that we

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<v Speaker 6>made available for certain players that we felt were impact

0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:53.080
<v Speaker 6>difference making guys. And then there were other times that

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<v Speaker 6>we were asked for some of those guys that we said, no,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, so what any one club us does not

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<v Speaker 6>impact us, right, So you put you pointed out one

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:06.960
<v Speaker 6>specific team, have all the respect in the world for

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.200
<v Speaker 6>that team. You know, we have teams in our division.

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 6>We're trying to win the division, obviously make the postseason.

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 6>We've never reacted to what teams do around us. We

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 6>have to do what's right for us, you know. And uh,

0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 6>we've always operated that way. We're aware of it, no doubt.

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 6>We're aware of what everyone's doing. We respect what everyone's doing.

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't think in any sports job you can

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<v Speaker 6>say this team did X, so we better go do X.

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 6>It's just there's so many examples. Stuff like that doesn't work.

0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 6>You have to worry about yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, was that you that asked that question? Hey, Susan,

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.960
<v Speaker 4>you're so so confusing with that question. I don't understand

0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.600
<v Speaker 4>the question. Here's my thing. It doesn't It doesn't impact

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:48.600
<v Speaker 4>you if you have to play that team and they

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:52.159
<v Speaker 4>beat you with the players that they got, and then

0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:56.439
<v Speaker 4>I don't understand, Well, you get Robbie Ray and Casey

0:22:56.560 --> 0:22:59.760
<v Speaker 4>Mize and versus Tyler Molly. Listen, Robbie Ray has been

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 4>with the pitcher in baseball for about the last month.

0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 4>Tyler Molly has been.

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Her by plus Era a lot of homers, pitching in

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 4>Pitching in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's he's That's why.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I understand your question, and I just that

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.320
<v Speaker 4>was GM speak one oh one with the court. He

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 4>had the quarter zip on with the polo underneath, so

0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 4>he had it nailed.

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Kind of gave him a shot.

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<v Speaker 4>And I liked Alex a lot. I think Alex was

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 4>really good at his job. But your question, Tasus was

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.399
<v Speaker 4>right on the money, and I think it kind of

0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 4>puts into perspective what most Braise fans are thinking. I

0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:35.919
<v Speaker 4>know Braise fans that I know, and I've talked to

0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 4>you in the last twenty four hours or all texting

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.000
<v Speaker 4>me like what the heck are we doing. I don't

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 4>have an answer for him, So maybe you can clear

0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:43.639
<v Speaker 4>up what Alex was trying to say, because there was

0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 4>a lot of gibberish in there too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, first and foremost, I pride myself in being a

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.639
<v Speaker 3>report that asked the questions that fans want to know.

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.840
<v Speaker 3>And I think that question that I made what's very fair.

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I do acknowledge that maybe he could have been worded

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<v Speaker 3>differently and maybe not necessarily mentioned the padres in order

0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:03.440
<v Speaker 3>for it not to kind of get lost in the shuffle.

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, I do want to put

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 3>this out there. I have a lot of respect for

0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 3>Alex Santoppolos. I respect his journey. I know we me

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 3>and him are in both different positions in baseball, but

0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 3>would share a similar journey in the way he started

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 3>in baseball to the way I started in journalism and

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 3>obviously became the Atlanta Braids, the reporter for the Athletic,

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.360
<v Speaker 3>which is owned by the New York Times. By the way,

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 3>so I totally understand, you know, the response, because it's

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.959
<v Speaker 3>we don't know what conversation happened right before re write.

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.640
<v Speaker 3>It was fresh off the trade deadline. There's a lot

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 3>of emotions going through and quite frankly, it wasn't the

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.439
<v Speaker 3>return that probably a lot of fans wanted to receive.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically he believes in Tyler Molly. He's not gonna say

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 3>that he doesn't believe in Tyler Melee. He wouldn't have

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 3>made that acquisition if he didn't believe in Tyler Melee,

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.879
<v Speaker 3>and I think that Melee is a good addition to

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:52.040
<v Speaker 3>this rotation. It really is, I think, compared to what

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 3>it was. It gives you a guy who's gonna go

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.840
<v Speaker 3>deep into innings, go deep into games, give you as

0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 3>much quality starts as you possibly can without having to

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 3>really give up much prospect capital. But I think, I

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 3>think it's really fair to say that there was so

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<v Speaker 3>much more on the market and the padres out of

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 3>all teams went out and we get it.

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 4>I get it.

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Every year they're always buying, no matter what type of

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.840
<v Speaker 3>farm system they have, and that's a J Preller's mindset.

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 3>A lot of you know, general managers probably don't agree

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.200
<v Speaker 3>with that mindset. They rubbed some of them off the

0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 3>wrong way, and that's totally fine. But he goes out

0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 3>there day in and day out, every single deadline, is

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 3>able to acquire players because of that. Does it end

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 3>up helping them down the road? No, because the team

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 3>doesn't hasn't won a World Series in its franchise history,

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 3>and that's just facts, right, so I think. But I

0:25:37.560 --> 0:25:39.919
<v Speaker 3>think the question that I wanted ray is in the

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:41.919
<v Speaker 3>argument that a lot of braves fans are doing is

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 3>if they were able to give up you know, the

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:47.399
<v Speaker 3>prospects they did for both Robbie Ray and Casey Maes

0:25:47.440 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 3>and the Atlanta Braves who have a stronger farm system,

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, Cam Kaminitti, Eric Harkman, John Heal and sure,

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 3>if you don't want to go away and give those guys,

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 3>that's fine. There's plenty of other guys like Luke Sinnar,

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Lucas Broun who they ended up trading right, Diego Tornez

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 3>down in the Florida Complex has so much potential hasn't

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:08.879
<v Speaker 3>panned out. Davis Polo is a guy that keeps on

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<v Speaker 3>rising and there was plenty of prospect capital to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to do it, but they chose not to do so.

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 3>He said that there was offers made that you know,

0:26:16.160 --> 0:26:18.359
<v Speaker 3>they just had to say no to because they feel

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 3>like it's what's best for the team. And that's totally fine.

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 3>But I do think from the France perspective, there is

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 3>that case in point to make that if if guys

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 3>like the Padres are reeling in for them, why weren't

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 3>the Braves able to do that? And that's what was

0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 3>the point that it made that question and he chose

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 3>to respond the way he wanted to. He's totally valid

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 3>in the way that he responded to just in the

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.639
<v Speaker 3>same way that I'm totally valid about asking the question.

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.159
<v Speaker 3>But I think for spin foremost, it's not about me,

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 3>it's not about him. I think it's a direction about

0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 3>the team, and I think the fans deserve to hear that,

0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I went about asking that question.

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<v Speaker 5>Yep.

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's your job, and you nailed it right, because

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.239
<v Speaker 1>if fans are upset, and also they just want to

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>know the real answers as to what went down, and

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>you get some of that from the front office, you

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:04.959
<v Speaker 1>get some of that from someone like your colleague Ken

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Rosenthal last night put out an article on how the

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Braves asked about Jacob de Gram, and the way I

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 1>read it was that they would have made this happen

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>if de Gram was into it. Degram gave a pretty

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>hard not so tell us about that. And if you

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>think the Braves potentially put too many chips in that basket,

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 1>we went from Braves might get Jacob de Gram to

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Braves not getting anybody else that day because Molly was

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>what from the day before. So there's what I kept saying.

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>The number like twelve starters, there were a number of

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>starters that Braves fans probably would have been very happy with.

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.720
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned a few of them just now. I'm just curious,

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<v Speaker 1>like what happened with de Graham and had we go

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>from there to nothing?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Ken Rosenthal obviously my colleague and that apps taught

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 3>me so much about the business. What reporting stands is

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 3>there if he's been out so you can see it

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 3>on the screen right.

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 4>There, right.

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Alex was asked about this, right and he chose not

0:28:56.560 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 3>to go into details about that because he feels like

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 3>it's not appropriate to talk about deals that never happened,

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 3>which is his philosophy. That's fine. I know he talked

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 3>about I think the Kyle Schwarber deal, and I'm sure with

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 3>who that deal that it didn't happen. That's fine, he

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 3>can do that, right. But I think maybe they did

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 3>have older chips lined they are ready to go too.

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. I don't like to

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 3>confirm information that I don't have a whole one hundred

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 3>percent off and going slowly on based on Ken's reporting

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent, I think there is a strong possibility,

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 3>if it's what stands true, that that was going to

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 3>be there, that that was going to be the move

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 3>that they were making, and it just didn't happen. But

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 3>I feel like in any profession you go to and

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 3>anything you do in life, there has to be a

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 3>plan B. And who knows, maybe Casey Misle's plan B

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 3>and a J Preller at the end had that Kawhi

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 3>Leonard as game the twenty nineteen playoffs shot to be

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 3>able to reel them in and made the patters much better.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm not going to be a guy that's

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 3>going to just fuel based on assumption outside of the

0:29:51.960 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 3>reporting that Ken did. That's kind of all the information

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>that I have right now, and I think the bottom

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>line is this is it's great to have pri Sale,

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 3>It's great to add Tyler. It's also in regards to

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 3>talking also about Bruns, suitor Brent Suda adds a very

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 3>important need to the team because they love to be

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 3>aggressive with their bullpen, which is a great philosophy to have,

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 3>but that also causes the rest of the bullpen, especially

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 3>your high leverage guys, to be taxed the next day

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 3>and not be available. Suitor comes in and fixes that

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 3>problem right there. Lane Thomas's addition is a good right

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 3>handed bat that hits lefties really well. So it's important

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 3>to mention this team did get better. It did get better.

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Objectively speaking, it did get better. But it leads into

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 3>the level that a lot of fans are satisfied with

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 3>because come October, right, it's a whole different ballgame.

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 3>We see how deep the Dodgers, and I know everybody

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 3>is probably like, why does he keep bringing them the Dodgers. Well,

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 3>they've went back to back World Series for a reason,

0:30:41.280 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 3>regardless of the way that they have done it and

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 3>all that stuff, right, But they have deep pitching, they

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 3>have a deep lineup, and it's why they've been able

0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 3>to put themselves in that position to win and do

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 3>the Atlanta prayers have that they got a little bit better,

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think it's to the level a lot

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 3>of fans who this is a passionate fan base. It's

0:30:57.880 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 3>drought all the self and drought all the United States

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 3>as a TBS. They're not satisfied with it, and I

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 3>think it's fair to understand the reasoning.

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Hey, su as Jim Jarvis is a playoff caliber shortstop.

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 3>For him, it sees the every day shortstop. It seems

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 3>like going forward with the way they've been playing so far.

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you this, I think it's much better to

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 3>have Jim Jarvis as the starting short stop going forward

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 3>right now than has Song Kim given his track record

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 3>of what happened this season. But it's always important to

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:27.959
<v Speaker 3>remember the type of player has On Kim was before,

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:30.520
<v Speaker 3>right and he didn't get a spring training, he had

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 3>the injury. He had this stint on the injured list

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 3>that gave him a full rehab assignment to be able

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 3>to work on things. Who knows, maybe he comes back

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 3>into that clubhouse today, he gets on the field and

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 3>is the player that everyone's expected to be and he

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 3>wins that position. And Tooppolos made it clear yesterday that

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 3>he is not the starting shortstop. He was the starting

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 3>short stop when he got signed, but because of performance

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 3>that's not the case. But pointed out that he's a

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 3>guy that can play second, can play third. So it

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<v Speaker 3>seems like he's going to be for the time being

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<v Speaker 3>in the utility role that Jorge Matteo was in before

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 3>who got designated for assignment recently, I mean yesterday with

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<v Speaker 3>the return of Kim coming back, so that's the way

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<v Speaker 3>they're going forward. I think my bigger question. I mean, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever way the lineup was constructed and stuff like that

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<v Speaker 3>is up to the Braves. But it's interesting to see

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<v Speaker 3>that Mauricio Dubon was not named the starting short stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and it seems like he's going to continue to be

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<v Speaker 3>in that utility role he was at the beginning of

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 3>the season before he settled in the outfield and Ronald

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<v Speaker 3>of Kuna took over.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, last one before we let you go. I've always

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to ask somebody that went to Fresno State this question. Which,

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<v Speaker 4>by the way, if you've never been to Fresno State,

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<v Speaker 4>it might be the hottest freaking place on Earth. Which

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<v Speaker 4>and I played at the old Fresno State Baseball Stadium

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<v Speaker 4>when the Giants were in Fresno. It was the worst

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<v Speaker 4>Triple A stadium in the world. And locker room was awful,

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<v Speaker 4>the hottest plays in the world. Also, they played blackjack,

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<v Speaker 4>where if you bust and you get lower than the

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<v Speaker 4>dealers boss, you still win. So there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>crazy things that happened in Fresno. The biggest craziest thing

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<v Speaker 4>I want to know is behind you there is a

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<v Speaker 4>flag and it has the bulldog on it. And it

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<v Speaker 4>has the F on the sleeve. Why do they have

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<v Speaker 4>a V on the collar? Is his name like Vallejo

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<v Speaker 4>or something.

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<v Speaker 3>And Bilt bala coo. Well, so let me explain to this.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's actually a really good question. I've always wanted

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<v Speaker 3>somebody to ask me this on camera. So the V

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:23.240
<v Speaker 3>was made by at coach Pat Hill, who was there

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<v Speaker 3>for so long. He integrated the V into the collar

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<v Speaker 3>of Victory Bulldog to represent the Central Valley right which

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<v Speaker 3>Presno is located in the middle of the Central Valley.

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<v Speaker 3>It's agriculture country. It infects and I know this summer

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<v Speaker 3>for a fact, as I did a project on it

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<v Speaker 3>in college. Feeds about sixty percent of the country based

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<v Speaker 3>off its produce, whether it's lettuce, walnuts, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's important representation to the fan base or just

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<v Speaker 3>to the people who live there in general, because a

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of people there they work in agriculture. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the students who go to Presno State are these

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 3>sons of immigrants who are working in the field. It's

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<v Speaker 3>putting in that work and chasing an education. Some of

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 3>the people that attend President State, their parents are the

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<v Speaker 3>owners of the farms that have this economic cycle of

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 3>agriculture going. And it's just a way to pay homage

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<v Speaker 3>to the to the area of Fresno in the Central

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Valley as a whole. And I take I'm not from Presno.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I grew up in the Bay Area in California, but

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<v Speaker 3>I take a lot of pride of being able to

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<v Speaker 3>be part of that for two years because it's shaped

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<v Speaker 3>me into who I am today and differently helped me

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<v Speaker 3>see the world from a different perspective.

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<v Speaker 4>That's awesome. Hopefully that incident that led us to Taco.

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<v Speaker 1>Bell no recall lettuce, just regular lettuce. You know what's funny?

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<v Speaker 1>He said that.

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<v Speaker 4>I swear that was the first thing I popped in

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<v Speaker 4>my head.

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<v Speaker 1>In our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So everyone was talking about salad and then I said,

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, a good butter lettuce and en dive makes

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>me feel alive. And then everyone's going like back and

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<v Speaker 1>forth about lettuce, and then he brought that out.

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<v Speaker 4>Weird anyway, All right, well that explains it. So now

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<v Speaker 4>I know, thank you first playing that. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 4>Fresno's the hot Okay, well, why don't they play blackjack

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<v Speaker 4>to twenty two? And if you bust it's called California Blackjacks.

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<v Speaker 4>If you get twenty four and the dealer gets twenty six,

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<v Speaker 4>you still win.

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<v Speaker 1>Save that answer for you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the ragious and then you play against the

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<v Speaker 4>people at the table. It was one of the worst things.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll talk to some sources and see what I can dig.

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<v Speaker 1>Up exactly next time you're on. You were great. Thank you, Hazus,

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<v Speaker 1>great to talk to you. Appreciate the time. We'll catch

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<v Speaker 1>us soon. Okay, thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys appreciate it.

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>And of course Jesus has been on this show Hammer Territory.

0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I listened to the full hour late last night. Brad

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.399
<v Speaker 1>and Scott were bringing it, educating us on what's going

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.000
<v Speaker 1>on in Atlanta, also on how much money they saved

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 1>with the profile deal, and obviously they didn't end up

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>really spending a lot of that. So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to check it out, if you're an angry Braves fan

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>they don't win the World Series, they're gonna hear it

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<v Speaker 1>for not having that other starter fear back