1 00:00:08,245 --> 00:00:09,445 Speaker 1: School of Humans. 2 00:00:12,565 --> 00:00:17,965 Speaker 2: This is Queer Chronicles. This is my personal entry Queus. 3 00:00:20,285 --> 00:00:29,645 Speaker 2: This is Queer Chronicles. I found Ballroom Honestly, it was 4 00:00:29,765 --> 00:00:32,205 Speaker 2: just to like Google. If I'm being completely honest. 5 00:00:32,925 --> 00:00:38,485 Speaker 1: Remember Safara, she's eighteen from Austin, Texas and one of 6 00:00:38,525 --> 00:00:40,325 Speaker 1: the youngest members. 7 00:00:39,925 --> 00:00:45,005 Speaker 2: Of a local ballroom fan. So, ballroom is this community 8 00:00:45,245 --> 00:00:48,485 Speaker 2: that started in New York City, and it's basically an 9 00:00:48,565 --> 00:00:53,645 Speaker 2: underground community started by black and Hispanic trans women. And 10 00:00:53,725 --> 00:00:57,165 Speaker 2: it started as a way for you know, queer kids 11 00:00:57,205 --> 00:00:59,965 Speaker 2: who are kicked out of their home from their you know, 12 00:01:00,005 --> 00:01:04,845 Speaker 2: biological families. They started houses as like a chosen family 13 00:01:04,925 --> 00:01:09,045 Speaker 2: in community so everyone could just you know, look their 14 00:01:09,045 --> 00:01:09,685 Speaker 2: best lies. 15 00:01:13,765 --> 00:01:18,645 Speaker 1: Ballrooms legacy is rich and layered. While these events go 16 00:01:18,765 --> 00:01:22,885 Speaker 1: back at least a century, the current system, founded by 17 00:01:23,005 --> 00:01:27,845 Speaker 1: black trans pioneer Crystal Labasia, got its start in nineteen 18 00:01:28,005 --> 00:01:41,805 Speaker 1: seventies New York. Today you can find ballroom communities all 19 00:01:41,965 --> 00:01:45,445 Speaker 1: over the world, and of course, if you want a 20 00:01:45,445 --> 00:01:51,005 Speaker 1: little Southern flare, travel on down the Austin Honey. Ballroom's 21 00:01:51,085 --> 00:01:58,525 Speaker 1: impact on culture is indelible. It's inspired television shows, iconic documentaries, 22 00:01:59,045 --> 00:02:03,365 Speaker 1: a few hit songs, and one queen Diva's recent album 23 00:02:03,525 --> 00:02:07,845 Speaker 1: and record breaking world tour. Here's a hint. She's a 24 00:02:07,925 --> 00:02:10,165 Speaker 1: Texas girl, just like Safara. 25 00:02:11,245 --> 00:02:14,525 Speaker 3: Tonight, Acetown is going down. 26 00:02:21,205 --> 00:02:25,565 Speaker 1: A big part of ballroom culture is holding balls, which 27 00:02:25,845 --> 00:02:31,405 Speaker 1: essentially our extravagant and elaborate contests where folks compete or 28 00:02:31,525 --> 00:02:37,765 Speaker 1: you'd say, walk, in different categories. Those categories often include 29 00:02:37,885 --> 00:02:43,925 Speaker 1: some glorious mix of performing, voguing, lip syncing, and modeling. 30 00:02:44,485 --> 00:02:49,005 Speaker 1: And it's a relatively new world for Sofara. She attended 31 00:02:49,045 --> 00:02:52,925 Speaker 1: her very first ball not too long ago, in September 32 00:02:53,125 --> 00:02:54,165 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. 33 00:02:55,485 --> 00:03:00,085 Speaker 2: It's actually a funny story. So I told my mom 34 00:03:00,445 --> 00:03:02,925 Speaker 2: that I was going to like a little get together 35 00:03:03,005 --> 00:03:09,085 Speaker 2: thing in secretly, me and three my friends we decided 36 00:03:09,125 --> 00:03:13,405 Speaker 2: to go to a ball in downtown Austin. I was 37 00:03:13,525 --> 00:03:16,925 Speaker 2: very nervous because you know, I'm like seventeen, and so 38 00:03:17,085 --> 00:03:19,525 Speaker 2: it was like a but you know, I just wanted 39 00:03:19,525 --> 00:03:21,245 Speaker 2: to give it up and I want to see them 40 00:03:21,285 --> 00:03:21,565 Speaker 2: be real. 41 00:03:21,685 --> 00:03:27,925 Speaker 1: Fab Ball categories are known for their high fluten, mesmerizing 42 00:03:28,165 --> 00:03:32,005 Speaker 1: glamour and grace, but there's more to it than that, 43 00:03:32,685 --> 00:03:36,485 Speaker 1: in fact, and let me put my little sociology hat 44 00:03:36,525 --> 00:03:41,205 Speaker 1: on here. In a world where our queer and trans family, 45 00:03:41,605 --> 00:03:47,445 Speaker 1: especially of color, often face struggles and barriers. Ball serve 46 00:03:47,565 --> 00:03:55,925 Speaker 1: as a fierce commentary on class, race, gender, and sexual orientation. Translation, 47 00:03:56,925 --> 00:04:00,205 Speaker 1: here on the floor, folks get a chance to be 48 00:04:00,285 --> 00:04:04,325 Speaker 1: seen the way they want to be seen. It's about 49 00:04:04,485 --> 00:04:10,125 Speaker 1: fantasy and reality colliding to create an eclectic tapestry of 50 00:04:10,245 --> 00:04:14,765 Speaker 1: human expression. For instance, if you want to walk the 51 00:04:14,845 --> 00:04:18,645 Speaker 1: runway category, you better work it like the supreme doll 52 00:04:18,965 --> 00:04:24,165 Speaker 1: Naomi Campbell herself. And there's a lot of unspoken criteria 53 00:04:24,285 --> 00:04:29,885 Speaker 1: to excel in the femme queen realness category. But just 54 00:04:29,965 --> 00:04:33,045 Speaker 1: to start, you have to be one of the girls 55 00:04:33,645 --> 00:04:37,045 Speaker 1: that is a trans woman, and you have to serve 56 00:04:37,365 --> 00:04:42,645 Speaker 1: pure confidence and fearlessness from head to toe. 57 00:04:42,845 --> 00:04:47,725 Speaker 2: I walked realness and runway, and I diget my tens 58 00:04:47,885 --> 00:04:52,005 Speaker 2: and realness so that I was bad. But I did 59 00:04:52,005 --> 00:04:54,365 Speaker 2: get chopped in runway, but it was only because I 60 00:04:54,405 --> 00:04:56,925 Speaker 2: didn't like have the gloves on in the category. Call 61 00:04:57,005 --> 00:04:59,125 Speaker 2: for gloves is the whole thing, and. 62 00:04:59,165 --> 00:05:05,125 Speaker 1: This whole thing is a family affair, or more precisely, 63 00:05:05,365 --> 00:05:11,525 Speaker 1: a a chosen family affair. It's complete with houses, house mothers, 64 00:05:11,645 --> 00:05:16,685 Speaker 1: house fathers, house siblings. The whole nine, and so far 65 00:05:16,805 --> 00:05:21,245 Speaker 1: As first performance made an impression on one ballroom family 66 00:05:21,285 --> 00:05:26,765 Speaker 1: in particular. Oh Yes, she was approached by Natalie Sanders Lapour, 67 00:05:27,605 --> 00:05:31,365 Speaker 1: the mother of the House of Lapour Naturally, a new 68 00:05:31,605 --> 00:05:36,965 Speaker 1: and rapidly growing collective that exploded on the Central Texas 69 00:05:36,965 --> 00:05:39,325 Speaker 1: scene in twenty twenty. 70 00:05:40,045 --> 00:05:41,845 Speaker 2: She just came up to me at the ball and 71 00:05:41,885 --> 00:05:44,805 Speaker 2: she was like, Hi, how are y'all? And I was like, 72 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:45,405 Speaker 2: oh my god. 73 00:05:45,485 --> 00:05:45,605 Speaker 1: Hi. 74 00:05:46,245 --> 00:05:50,085 Speaker 2: Two days later, she somehow saw like me, like us 75 00:05:50,165 --> 00:05:53,285 Speaker 2: on Instagram or something. I don't know, but she by 76 00:05:53,365 --> 00:05:59,285 Speaker 2: like the grace of everything of the ancestors, she found 77 00:05:59,605 --> 00:06:02,645 Speaker 2: my Instagram page and she was like, hey, it's like 78 00:06:03,285 --> 00:06:04,645 Speaker 2: I saw you walk at the ball and you were 79 00:06:04,725 --> 00:06:07,485 Speaker 2: really fat. Do you want to come to a practice? 80 00:06:08,005 --> 00:06:11,005 Speaker 2: And I was just like I didn't cry, but I 81 00:06:11,085 --> 00:06:13,085 Speaker 2: was just like so like amazed. I was like what 82 00:06:13,245 --> 00:06:17,445 Speaker 2: the hell, Like how did I get like an invite 83 00:06:17,485 --> 00:06:19,965 Speaker 2: to a practice? How to even find my Instagram? I 84 00:06:20,005 --> 00:06:20,405 Speaker 2: don't know? 85 00:06:20,925 --> 00:06:24,565 Speaker 1: And just like that Miss so Far had a arrived. 86 00:06:26,445 --> 00:06:29,485 Speaker 2: But so I went to the practice and after the 87 00:06:29,485 --> 00:06:32,965 Speaker 2: practice she formally invited me to join the assho before 88 00:06:33,685 --> 00:06:38,885 Speaker 2: and I've just been like really really happy and I 89 00:06:38,885 --> 00:06:41,445 Speaker 2: think It means a lot for me because barroom is 90 00:06:41,525 --> 00:06:45,645 Speaker 2: just everything black, queer, black, trans. So for me, it's 91 00:06:45,685 --> 00:06:48,645 Speaker 2: just I get to live in a space where I'm 92 00:06:48,685 --> 00:06:51,885 Speaker 2: like normal. I don't have to feel othered or like 93 00:06:52,285 --> 00:06:56,765 Speaker 2: ostracized and abnormality in some way. There's just so much 94 00:06:57,005 --> 00:07:03,045 Speaker 2: history and love and like queer, joy and ballroom and 95 00:07:03,325 --> 00:07:05,885 Speaker 2: that's what makes it a special mean. I just feel 96 00:07:05,925 --> 00:07:08,365 Speaker 2: like my whole life is going to be Borroom. I'm 97 00:07:08,445 --> 00:07:11,165 Speaker 2: gonna be like fifty years old, still on a judge's 98 00:07:11,205 --> 00:07:14,125 Speaker 2: panel for ball I want to be in Boroom forever. 99 00:07:19,325 --> 00:07:25,645 Speaker 1: From School of Humans, The Outspoken Podcast Network and iHeart Podcasts, 100 00:07:26,325 --> 00:07:31,485 Speaker 1: This is Queer Chronicles, a show where queer folks document 101 00:07:31,645 --> 00:07:36,605 Speaker 1: their personal lives and experiences in their own words, and 102 00:07:36,805 --> 00:07:42,125 Speaker 1: I'm your host, Raquel Willis. This season, a group of 103 00:07:42,245 --> 00:07:47,405 Speaker 1: teenagers are sharing their perspectives on growing up queer, trans 104 00:07:47,565 --> 00:07:52,045 Speaker 1: and gender not and conforming while living in mostly Red States. 105 00:07:52,925 --> 00:07:57,125 Speaker 1: And today it's the Safar Show. 106 00:08:04,085 --> 00:08:05,205 Speaker 2: You just heard that. 107 00:08:05,285 --> 00:08:08,645 Speaker 1: She He's one of the most promising girls on the 108 00:08:08,685 --> 00:08:13,965 Speaker 1: ballroom scene, and she's also a bit of a genius. 109 00:08:14,045 --> 00:08:18,685 Speaker 1: She's headed to Harvard for college this fall, but before 110 00:08:18,765 --> 00:08:23,365 Speaker 1: soaring to these spectacular heights, Safara had to go on 111 00:08:23,405 --> 00:08:27,885 Speaker 1: a journey of self love, one that would help crystallize 112 00:08:27,965 --> 00:08:31,925 Speaker 1: her trans identity and set her on the shining path 113 00:08:32,085 --> 00:08:37,525 Speaker 1: she walks today. Little Saphara grew up in a small 114 00:08:37,605 --> 00:08:42,805 Speaker 1: town outside of Dallas, and from kindergarten through seventh grade 115 00:08:43,405 --> 00:08:47,845 Speaker 1: she went to a school that she described as very white, 116 00:08:48,245 --> 00:08:51,445 Speaker 1: very racist, and very queer phobic. 117 00:08:53,045 --> 00:08:55,725 Speaker 2: Just you would go around in the hallway like at 118 00:08:55,725 --> 00:08:57,405 Speaker 2: the end of the day and you would just hear 119 00:08:57,765 --> 00:08:59,885 Speaker 2: the M word, but you wouldn't see any color. You 120 00:08:59,885 --> 00:09:02,005 Speaker 2: wouldn't se any like black people, you know what I mean. 121 00:09:02,085 --> 00:09:05,885 Speaker 2: So it's just like very like, oh, this is not 122 00:09:05,965 --> 00:09:08,325 Speaker 2: really a place for me. Like this is clearly like 123 00:09:08,445 --> 00:09:10,285 Speaker 2: not a place for me. 124 00:09:11,125 --> 00:09:14,685 Speaker 1: But little Safara had to figure out how to make 125 00:09:14,765 --> 00:09:17,885 Speaker 1: the best of it. That meant making friends at school, 126 00:09:18,165 --> 00:09:21,925 Speaker 1: even though those friends didn't always treat her well. 127 00:09:22,285 --> 00:09:24,445 Speaker 2: I was always the butt of the joke and every 128 00:09:24,485 --> 00:09:27,245 Speaker 2: single friend group that I had. It was because, like 129 00:09:27,285 --> 00:09:29,805 Speaker 2: I was kind of nerdy, but it was mostly because 130 00:09:29,845 --> 00:09:31,885 Speaker 2: I was also the black kid. I know. It was 131 00:09:32,445 --> 00:09:36,365 Speaker 2: because the jokes also were like monkey and like big lips. 132 00:09:36,445 --> 00:09:39,445 Speaker 2: I was friends with a lot of people who didn't 133 00:09:39,605 --> 00:09:43,565 Speaker 2: respect me or like by people. And I remember there 134 00:09:43,605 --> 00:09:45,885 Speaker 2: are so many points in time where I was having 135 00:09:45,965 --> 00:09:50,405 Speaker 2: to like fit through people talk about, oh, black women 136 00:09:50,445 --> 00:09:52,325 Speaker 2: are ugly, you know what I mean, and they just 137 00:09:52,485 --> 00:09:55,085 Speaker 2: say that to my base. I think that also probably 138 00:09:55,285 --> 00:09:57,645 Speaker 2: made me take longer to come out or like realize 139 00:09:57,685 --> 00:09:59,685 Speaker 2: my gender identity fully was I don't know, it was 140 00:09:59,685 --> 00:10:01,605 Speaker 2: like I was directly scared of the treatment that I 141 00:10:01,645 --> 00:10:04,285 Speaker 2: would get as like a black woman, and so I 142 00:10:04,405 --> 00:10:06,805 Speaker 2: was like, it's not going to think about that. I'm 143 00:10:06,805 --> 00:10:09,765 Speaker 2: not going to think about that possibility because there there's 144 00:10:09,805 --> 00:10:12,125 Speaker 2: no way that I can go through that, or like, 145 00:10:12,165 --> 00:10:14,405 Speaker 2: there's no way that I could handle what it's like 146 00:10:14,485 --> 00:10:16,685 Speaker 2: to be a black woman with seeing the hatred that 147 00:10:17,125 --> 00:10:19,285 Speaker 2: black women get just serving black women. 148 00:10:20,405 --> 00:10:23,605 Speaker 1: Look, I have to take a second to validate where 149 00:10:23,605 --> 00:10:27,685 Speaker 1: so far is coming from. I experienced immense bullying and 150 00:10:27,845 --> 00:10:31,885 Speaker 1: isolation for my race and gender in my earliest years too. 151 00:10:32,725 --> 00:10:36,965 Speaker 1: No one should have to endure that mess, especially young 152 00:10:37,045 --> 00:10:41,725 Speaker 1: black trans folks, because internalizing this kind of language, this 153 00:10:41,965 --> 00:10:47,845 Speaker 1: warped way of seeing yourself can be extremely damaging. And 154 00:10:47,925 --> 00:10:53,085 Speaker 1: when you endure that even before owning your transness, it 155 00:10:53,165 --> 00:10:56,685 Speaker 1: can make you fearful of what lies on the other 156 00:10:56,805 --> 00:11:04,525 Speaker 1: side this environment. These dynamics hurt sfar self confidence and 157 00:11:04,605 --> 00:11:08,485 Speaker 1: made it harder for her to love herself. 158 00:11:08,125 --> 00:11:11,685 Speaker 2: For who she is. Almost every single day after school, 159 00:11:11,725 --> 00:11:13,365 Speaker 2: I would look in the mirror and just be like, 160 00:11:13,445 --> 00:11:16,285 Speaker 2: I'm so ugly. I hate myself. I literally hate how 161 00:11:16,285 --> 00:11:20,685 Speaker 2: I look. I had a thought in my mind constantly 162 00:11:20,805 --> 00:11:23,565 Speaker 2: for like the entire first like twelve years of my life, 163 00:11:23,605 --> 00:11:26,565 Speaker 2: of I feel bad for the people in my life 164 00:11:26,685 --> 00:11:29,445 Speaker 2: because they have to look at me every single day 165 00:11:30,005 --> 00:11:32,445 Speaker 2: and I'm that ugly that I feel bad that they 166 00:11:32,445 --> 00:11:33,925 Speaker 2: have to look at me. Like I'm glad to be 167 00:11:34,005 --> 00:11:35,885 Speaker 2: myself just because I don't have to look at me 168 00:11:35,925 --> 00:11:37,685 Speaker 2: every single day except for when I look in the 169 00:11:37,725 --> 00:11:42,485 Speaker 2: mirror and brush my teeth. It was really draining looking 170 00:11:42,525 --> 00:11:46,125 Speaker 2: back on it, and it also numbed my personality. I 171 00:11:46,165 --> 00:11:50,765 Speaker 2: think that and not realizing and like fully knowing my transidentity. 172 00:11:51,565 --> 00:11:53,845 Speaker 2: I was a shell of a person. I wrote my 173 00:11:53,925 --> 00:11:56,445 Speaker 2: college I say about this, but like, I didn't have 174 00:11:56,485 --> 00:12:01,685 Speaker 2: a personality until literally, I would say, until like COVID 175 00:12:02,125 --> 00:12:04,605 Speaker 2: the pandemic, which is when I figured all of that 176 00:12:04,685 --> 00:12:09,005 Speaker 2: out and really understood my transidentity, really began to understand 177 00:12:09,045 --> 00:12:12,925 Speaker 2: and learn into my culture. It's actually like really strange. 178 00:12:13,405 --> 00:12:17,125 Speaker 2: Like sixth grade, I tried myself to sleep and I 179 00:12:17,125 --> 00:12:19,845 Speaker 2: wrote like a note sad thing about how I felt 180 00:12:19,845 --> 00:12:21,925 Speaker 2: like I was a sociopath because I felt like I 181 00:12:21,925 --> 00:12:25,365 Speaker 2: didn't have a personality and I just replicated anything that 182 00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:29,565 Speaker 2: I saw and whatever people did around me. I just 183 00:12:29,685 --> 00:12:32,165 Speaker 2: did what other boys did. I just hung around other 184 00:12:32,205 --> 00:12:36,365 Speaker 2: boys like I didn't I didn't have anything of my own, 185 00:12:36,445 --> 00:12:37,125 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 186 00:12:42,125 --> 00:12:44,245 Speaker 1: I'm curious what it was like for you to deal 187 00:12:44,285 --> 00:12:47,325 Speaker 1: with being one of the only black kits in a 188 00:12:47,365 --> 00:12:51,165 Speaker 1: lot of these spaces, but also dealing with being you know, 189 00:12:51,365 --> 00:12:55,045 Speaker 1: queer or gender non conforming in these spaces too. 190 00:12:55,925 --> 00:12:59,725 Speaker 2: Yeah, it took me a long time to like find out, 191 00:12:59,765 --> 00:13:03,285 Speaker 2: Like I know, like everyone's like transitions has their own timeline, 192 00:13:03,965 --> 00:13:07,645 Speaker 2: And for me, it wasn't like incredibly vastly apparent that 193 00:13:07,725 --> 00:13:09,725 Speaker 2: I was a girl from the jump, you know what 194 00:13:09,805 --> 00:13:13,125 Speaker 2: I mean. Like I felt a lot of like comfortability 195 00:13:13,165 --> 00:13:18,405 Speaker 2: and like being a gay man. For like a while, 196 00:13:18,845 --> 00:13:21,125 Speaker 2: I thought I knew what I was. I thought I 197 00:13:21,125 --> 00:13:24,005 Speaker 2: had it fully figured out in the back of my mind. 198 00:13:24,205 --> 00:13:27,365 Speaker 2: I remember, like I would probably say since like fourth 199 00:13:27,485 --> 00:13:29,725 Speaker 2: or fifth grade was when I had the first thought of, well, 200 00:13:29,765 --> 00:13:32,925 Speaker 2: it would be great if I had if I had brass, 201 00:13:33,165 --> 00:13:35,165 Speaker 2: and it would be great if I was born a woman. 202 00:13:35,445 --> 00:13:37,645 Speaker 2: It would be better if I was born a woman. 203 00:13:37,965 --> 00:13:40,565 Speaker 2: But I was like, I always literally said, but I 204 00:13:40,565 --> 00:13:42,845 Speaker 2: don't want it enough to be like trans I don't 205 00:13:42,885 --> 00:13:45,965 Speaker 2: want enough to actually go through a transition, And that 206 00:13:46,125 --> 00:13:49,525 Speaker 2: always pop back up, like every six months or so. 207 00:13:50,285 --> 00:13:54,565 Speaker 2: There was an uncomfortability in these predominantly like boys and 208 00:13:54,645 --> 00:13:59,965 Speaker 2: men's spaces, and I never felt like I fully belonged there. 209 00:14:00,085 --> 00:14:02,845 Speaker 2: But I always thought like, that's just my personality, that's 210 00:14:03,005 --> 00:14:06,205 Speaker 2: just me being gay. I didn't think it was because 211 00:14:06,245 --> 00:14:07,885 Speaker 2: I was a girl the entire time. 212 00:14:29,725 --> 00:14:34,765 Speaker 1: The summer before eighth grade, Sofara moved to the Austin area. 213 00:14:35,085 --> 00:14:38,165 Speaker 1: This was a huge turning point for her. For the 214 00:14:38,325 --> 00:14:42,285 Speaker 1: first time, she met and befriended other folks who were 215 00:14:42,285 --> 00:14:47,485 Speaker 1: black and queer. These kindred souls allowed her to see 216 00:14:47,525 --> 00:14:51,045 Speaker 1: the multitudes of her identities in a different light. 217 00:14:53,565 --> 00:14:55,965 Speaker 2: Ninth grade was when I met one of my best 218 00:14:55,965 --> 00:14:59,445 Speaker 2: friends to this day. He was reading like Angela Davis 219 00:14:59,445 --> 00:15:01,405 Speaker 2: in seventh grade and stuff like that, so he was 220 00:15:01,445 --> 00:15:05,645 Speaker 2: already really radicalized, and he was the first person I 221 00:15:05,685 --> 00:15:09,325 Speaker 2: talked to about like prison abolition and all of these 222 00:15:09,325 --> 00:15:13,445 Speaker 2: different things. And so that was how I grew a 223 00:15:13,485 --> 00:15:17,405 Speaker 2: really close relationship with just my identity and my blackness. 224 00:15:17,525 --> 00:15:22,765 Speaker 2: Was like understanding black revolutionary politics, understanding that like there's 225 00:15:22,805 --> 00:15:25,125 Speaker 2: a revolution coming and like I'm going to aid to it, 226 00:15:25,165 --> 00:15:27,085 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I'm going to play an 227 00:15:27,085 --> 00:15:29,805 Speaker 2: active role in it. And that was what allowed me 228 00:15:29,845 --> 00:15:32,845 Speaker 2: to really get in in that sort of sense. I 229 00:15:32,965 --> 00:15:36,845 Speaker 2: was like, I'm pro black, I'm unpacking respectability politics, and 230 00:15:36,885 --> 00:15:39,685 Speaker 2: now I'm going to just consume the fuck out of 231 00:15:40,245 --> 00:15:45,765 Speaker 2: like black media. I'm going to like really actively reclaim 232 00:15:46,045 --> 00:15:48,445 Speaker 2: everything that like I lost out in my childhood. 233 00:15:49,805 --> 00:15:51,725 Speaker 4: See that's I mean, that's another thing. When you talk 234 00:15:51,765 --> 00:15:56,605 Speaker 4: about a revolution, most people think violence without realizing that 235 00:15:57,125 --> 00:16:01,325 Speaker 4: the real content of any kind of revolutionary thrust laws 236 00:16:01,365 --> 00:16:03,765 Speaker 4: in the in the principles and the goals that you're 237 00:16:03,805 --> 00:16:09,405 Speaker 4: striving for, not in the world the way you reached them. 238 00:16:09,685 --> 00:16:15,245 Speaker 1: Yeah, reading Angela Davis will change your life. As so 239 00:16:15,405 --> 00:16:20,085 Speaker 1: far as consciousness was expanding in so many ways, she 240 00:16:20,405 --> 00:16:23,885 Speaker 1: reckoned with her old life back in Dallas and the 241 00:16:23,925 --> 00:16:25,845 Speaker 1: boys who made her feel small. 242 00:16:26,685 --> 00:16:30,725 Speaker 2: The awful friend group that I had during my seventh 243 00:16:30,725 --> 00:16:34,325 Speaker 2: grade year, we kept up through PlayStation Network and PlayStation 244 00:16:34,525 --> 00:16:37,365 Speaker 2: four parties, so I just did that too. It was 245 00:16:37,405 --> 00:16:39,925 Speaker 2: like I can have friends that way. One of my 246 00:16:39,965 --> 00:16:42,485 Speaker 2: like quote unquote friends would be like watching Steven Crowder, 247 00:16:42,485 --> 00:16:45,965 Speaker 2: which is like this republican like alt right influencer, and 248 00:16:46,005 --> 00:16:48,085 Speaker 2: he would just like be playing it in the background, 249 00:16:48,565 --> 00:16:51,525 Speaker 2: like not even like necessarily I don't think intentionally like 250 00:16:51,765 --> 00:16:53,845 Speaker 2: pissed me off, but just like he would be watching 251 00:16:53,925 --> 00:16:56,405 Speaker 2: it because he was so far down the alt right pipeline, 252 00:16:56,645 --> 00:16:59,085 Speaker 2: and it was just like, what the hell, what is this? 253 00:16:59,165 --> 00:17:01,005 Speaker 2: So like I had to say something. I was like, 254 00:17:01,045 --> 00:17:03,645 Speaker 2: I'm not just gonna be quiet about this. I was 255 00:17:03,725 --> 00:17:09,885 Speaker 2: like weekly or like bi weekly, having like strenuous, awful 256 00:17:09,925 --> 00:17:13,525 Speaker 2: like debates about like black women are pretty, or like 257 00:17:13,965 --> 00:17:17,525 Speaker 2: why y'all saying the in word? And honestly, I remember 258 00:17:17,565 --> 00:17:22,445 Speaker 2: because my friend who like radicalized me and also like 259 00:17:22,485 --> 00:17:24,845 Speaker 2: my other like black queer friend and like this trio 260 00:17:24,925 --> 00:17:27,125 Speaker 2: black queer friend group, I would like sometimes complain and 261 00:17:27,125 --> 00:17:28,885 Speaker 2: they'd be like why are you still there? Like why 262 00:17:28,965 --> 00:17:30,885 Speaker 2: what are you doing? And I was just like we're 263 00:17:30,885 --> 00:17:33,765 Speaker 2: in a pandemic virtual year, it's just easy to like 264 00:17:33,805 --> 00:17:35,565 Speaker 2: have friends at all. I don't want to be lonely, 265 00:17:36,205 --> 00:17:38,645 Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna stay being friends with them at 266 00:17:38,685 --> 00:17:40,645 Speaker 2: the same time as I'm bends with y'all, even though 267 00:17:40,645 --> 00:17:43,525 Speaker 2: like I know all of this, Like I know all 268 00:17:43,565 --> 00:17:46,405 Speaker 2: of these things, like I've fully radicalized in twenty twenty, 269 00:17:46,965 --> 00:17:48,485 Speaker 2: but I'm still going to be friends with them. And 270 00:17:48,525 --> 00:17:51,885 Speaker 2: I remember, like whenever the school year started in twenty 271 00:17:51,925 --> 00:17:55,565 Speaker 2: twenty one and like we came back in person, I 272 00:17:55,645 --> 00:17:58,725 Speaker 2: was like, I have too much self respect for myself 273 00:17:58,845 --> 00:18:01,845 Speaker 2: to like stay being friends with these awful people, so 274 00:18:02,045 --> 00:18:04,525 Speaker 2: like I block them on everything, and that was my 275 00:18:04,565 --> 00:18:07,925 Speaker 2: big one. I that I ate that way too late, 276 00:18:07,965 --> 00:18:08,765 Speaker 2: but I still ate that. 277 00:18:11,485 --> 00:18:14,925 Speaker 1: Saying that twenty twenty shifted so many of our lives 278 00:18:15,285 --> 00:18:20,165 Speaker 1: would be the understatement of the millennium. Beyond the obvious, 279 00:18:20,605 --> 00:18:25,405 Speaker 1: that is the novel coronavirus. Our collective values were put 280 00:18:25,445 --> 00:18:29,605 Speaker 1: on the world stage with the brutal murders of numerous 281 00:18:29,765 --> 00:18:35,805 Speaker 1: black people, including George Floyd, and a summer teeming with protests. 282 00:18:36,565 --> 00:18:44,045 Speaker 1: These events sparked a great learning and unlearning in our society. 283 00:18:46,085 --> 00:18:50,525 Speaker 1: For her part, so far was dismantling the anti blackness 284 00:18:50,645 --> 00:18:55,525 Speaker 1: and queer phobia she had internalized in childhood, and she 285 00:18:55,685 --> 00:18:58,325 Speaker 1: began embracing her gender identity. 286 00:18:58,765 --> 00:19:01,245 Speaker 2: Somewhere in that. In twenty twenty, I realized I was 287 00:19:01,285 --> 00:19:05,205 Speaker 2: a transoman, and I like came out to like my 288 00:19:05,565 --> 00:19:07,285 Speaker 2: trans mass friend, and we kind of like came out 289 00:19:07,325 --> 00:19:11,085 Speaker 2: to each other. It's like, oh yeah, what. 290 00:19:10,925 --> 00:19:14,605 Speaker 1: Kind of made you get to that point where you're like, Okay, 291 00:19:14,805 --> 00:19:17,605 Speaker 1: I'm coming out as a trans woman, Like it's time, 292 00:19:17,765 --> 00:19:20,605 Speaker 1: let's go. So like, for instance, for me, it was 293 00:19:20,685 --> 00:19:24,565 Speaker 1: like I had a boyfriend at this time, my first boyfriend, 294 00:19:25,085 --> 00:19:28,805 Speaker 1: and he was a trans man, but we could understand 295 00:19:28,805 --> 00:19:30,685 Speaker 1: each other. At that point, I was like identifying as 296 00:19:30,725 --> 00:19:35,645 Speaker 1: gender clear, so I knew something genderly was happening. But 297 00:19:35,725 --> 00:19:39,205 Speaker 1: I remember us having these like conversations and I was 298 00:19:39,325 --> 00:19:43,885 Speaker 1: like there were just like two moments over the course 299 00:19:43,925 --> 00:19:45,765 Speaker 1: of like a weekend where we were like talking on 300 00:19:45,805 --> 00:19:47,965 Speaker 1: the phone because I was on a trip, and I 301 00:19:48,045 --> 00:19:50,405 Speaker 1: was like, you know, if I could just be a 302 00:19:50,445 --> 00:19:56,285 Speaker 1: woman all the time, everything would just be easier or 303 00:19:56,325 --> 00:19:59,205 Speaker 1: would just make more sense. And then the second time 304 00:19:59,285 --> 00:20:05,045 Speaker 1: I said that, it was just kind of like a oh, yes, 305 00:20:05,965 --> 00:20:06,685 Speaker 1: I'm a woman. 306 00:20:07,805 --> 00:20:11,725 Speaker 2: I remember it was me and my best friend. She 307 00:20:12,085 --> 00:20:17,605 Speaker 2: like took me with her family to Oklahoma and we 308 00:20:17,605 --> 00:20:19,925 Speaker 2: were like in cabins for like the winter, for like 309 00:20:20,165 --> 00:20:23,485 Speaker 2: Christmas break right, and I was like, we should start 310 00:20:23,525 --> 00:20:27,285 Speaker 2: a new show, we should start Pose. And I remember 311 00:20:27,485 --> 00:20:30,685 Speaker 2: like just I was watching like those first two episodes, 312 00:20:30,805 --> 00:20:36,285 Speaker 2: like and I was just immediately connected with Angel, and 313 00:20:36,365 --> 00:20:40,845 Speaker 2: I was just like, I'm a woman, and it was 314 00:20:40,885 --> 00:20:44,805 Speaker 2: like Angel and just seeing her and like her afro 315 00:20:45,005 --> 00:20:47,005 Speaker 2: and how pretty she was, and I was just like 316 00:20:47,525 --> 00:20:50,525 Speaker 2: that's me, Like that's who I am. Like I willant 317 00:20:50,525 --> 00:20:53,285 Speaker 2: to live like openly and just be pretty and just 318 00:20:53,325 --> 00:20:56,725 Speaker 2: be like you know what I mean. And so that 319 00:20:56,885 --> 00:20:59,645 Speaker 2: was like my I'm a woman moment for sure. I'm Angel. 320 00:21:01,085 --> 00:21:02,965 Speaker 2: This is why I love going to the balls. 321 00:21:03,285 --> 00:21:05,805 Speaker 1: When I'm able to be true to myself in a 322 00:21:05,885 --> 00:21:08,165 Speaker 1: space where that celebrated, that makes. 323 00:21:08,005 --> 00:21:17,845 Speaker 2: Me feel beautiful. Immediately I saw myself in such a 324 00:21:17,885 --> 00:21:21,365 Speaker 2: different light without like any hormones, without makeup. I was like, 325 00:21:21,445 --> 00:21:25,685 Speaker 2: I'm literally so pretty. I'm so like freaking pretty, like 326 00:21:26,285 --> 00:21:28,245 Speaker 2: with the exact same base. And I know, like you 327 00:21:28,285 --> 00:21:30,725 Speaker 2: don't glow up and like stuff like that, but it 328 00:21:30,765 --> 00:21:34,525 Speaker 2: was like I immediately felt pretty from just like identifying 329 00:21:34,565 --> 00:21:36,485 Speaker 2: as a trans person out, you know what I mean. 330 00:21:36,925 --> 00:21:41,005 Speaker 2: It was like taking photos on myself regularly as I 331 00:21:41,005 --> 00:21:43,565 Speaker 2: started taking pictures. I remember the first like model asqu 332 00:21:43,605 --> 00:21:45,245 Speaker 2: photo shoot that I did was on the first day 333 00:21:45,245 --> 00:21:47,645 Speaker 2: of my junior year, just like a self timer pick 334 00:21:47,725 --> 00:21:50,885 Speaker 2: photo shoot, and the pigs came out so good and 335 00:21:50,965 --> 00:21:54,685 Speaker 2: I had like some confidence and I was just like 336 00:21:54,725 --> 00:21:56,605 Speaker 2: looking back and then I was like, I'm pretty, Like 337 00:21:56,685 --> 00:21:59,925 Speaker 2: I'm really really pretty, Like there's no reason for me 338 00:21:59,965 --> 00:22:03,005 Speaker 2: to like ever think like that ever again. And even now, 339 00:22:03,085 --> 00:22:06,245 Speaker 2: like whenever I get my ff as my facial for sury, 340 00:22:06,285 --> 00:22:08,205 Speaker 2: I want bigger lits, you know what I mean. Like 341 00:22:08,445 --> 00:22:11,645 Speaker 2: I love my face, I love my blackness, I love 342 00:22:12,045 --> 00:22:15,645 Speaker 2: my lips. And so the one eighty is like amazing. 343 00:22:22,405 --> 00:22:26,605 Speaker 1: While there's often a lot of sensationalizing around trans women's 344 00:22:26,685 --> 00:22:32,605 Speaker 1: bodies and beauty, taking control of your esthetics can be empowering. 345 00:22:33,805 --> 00:22:37,885 Speaker 1: So Far lights up as she discusses her self love journey, 346 00:22:38,085 --> 00:22:41,365 Speaker 1: and her hopes for the future. It reminds me of 347 00:22:41,405 --> 00:22:46,285 Speaker 1: my early days on hormone replacement therapy, when I'd ecstatically 348 00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:50,485 Speaker 1: jot down every change I felt and saw in my journal. 349 00:22:51,565 --> 00:22:54,605 Speaker 1: I'd heard so many nasty things when I came out 350 00:22:54,645 --> 00:22:58,965 Speaker 1: as trans, that I'd never be a real woman, that 351 00:22:59,005 --> 00:23:04,085 Speaker 1: I'd never be beautiful or accepted. But the physical changes 352 00:23:04,445 --> 00:23:09,805 Speaker 1: made me feel validated. Both Safara and younger me were, 353 00:23:10,325 --> 00:23:16,005 Speaker 1: as Queen Bee says, comfortable in our skin. And for Sophara, 354 00:23:16,925 --> 00:23:21,045 Speaker 1: what better way to put this newfound confidence on display 355 00:23:21,605 --> 00:23:40,805 Speaker 1: than ballroom baby. More on that after the break. So 356 00:23:40,925 --> 00:23:44,325 Speaker 1: did you change? Because we're getting ready for one of 357 00:23:44,365 --> 00:23:49,445 Speaker 1: Safara's favorite parts of the week, ballroom practice with the 358 00:23:49,485 --> 00:23:50,245 Speaker 1: House of Lapoor. 359 00:23:51,685 --> 00:23:57,245 Speaker 5: My practice usually once a week, and we have like 360 00:23:57,485 --> 00:24:01,525 Speaker 5: open practices called like Vogue Sessions or like Vogue Academy, 361 00:24:02,125 --> 00:24:04,725 Speaker 5: which is like for any house or just anyone who's 362 00:24:04,725 --> 00:24:05,285 Speaker 5: not in the house. 363 00:24:05,685 --> 00:24:08,845 Speaker 6: And then we also have like our own house practices. 364 00:24:08,925 --> 00:24:11,445 Speaker 5: So today is going to be a house practice, and 365 00:24:11,485 --> 00:24:14,325 Speaker 5: we're getting ready for the Stop the r chky Ball, 366 00:24:14,365 --> 00:24:17,485 Speaker 5: which is going to be happening this Saturday in Dallas. 367 00:24:18,525 --> 00:24:21,085 Speaker 5: But for prep, it's just like we just like to 368 00:24:21,205 --> 00:24:25,445 Speaker 5: be comfortable getting something you can vogue in. And you know, 369 00:24:25,485 --> 00:24:27,885 Speaker 5: I always leave the house curly my lashes because it's 370 00:24:27,885 --> 00:24:29,205 Speaker 5: just like rightens your day. 371 00:24:31,125 --> 00:24:36,005 Speaker 1: Once Safar arrives, she'll embark on a strenuous two hour 372 00:24:36,125 --> 00:24:41,365 Speaker 1: rehearsal where she'll hone different elements of voguing and performance 373 00:24:41,805 --> 00:24:47,325 Speaker 1: for the upcoming ball. She'll be doing spins, dips, floor performances, 374 00:24:47,365 --> 00:24:51,285 Speaker 1: and duck walks, and these can be difficult moves, so 375 00:24:51,445 --> 00:24:53,405 Speaker 1: Mama needs to be comfortable on. 376 00:24:53,405 --> 00:24:57,765 Speaker 6: Some like at leisure. It also like still you know, 377 00:24:57,805 --> 00:24:59,565 Speaker 6: feel a little feel a little. 378 00:24:59,365 --> 00:25:03,565 Speaker 2: Cute because ballroom is very much like I don't also 379 00:25:03,645 --> 00:25:06,565 Speaker 2: like don't know like the rating of the podcast, but 380 00:25:06,685 --> 00:25:11,365 Speaker 2: like it's Kunti's that's what ballroom is. Kunti is like 381 00:25:11,605 --> 00:25:16,765 Speaker 2: you are just feeling like the ultra feminine existence, like 382 00:25:17,485 --> 00:25:22,125 Speaker 2: you are feeling power over everything with a feminine energy 383 00:25:22,165 --> 00:25:23,245 Speaker 2: to it. 384 00:25:23,245 --> 00:25:27,205 Speaker 6: It's the core a ballroom. And so I love like 385 00:25:27,325 --> 00:25:32,765 Speaker 6: having learned through ballroom and other black trans women because 386 00:25:32,765 --> 00:25:37,045 Speaker 6: it's like I have a better understanding of myself and 387 00:25:37,165 --> 00:25:41,165 Speaker 6: like conquering my own femininity. 388 00:25:40,045 --> 00:25:44,045 Speaker 1: That feminine energy so far as talking about, well she 389 00:25:44,445 --> 00:25:48,125 Speaker 1: exudes it. Stepping into her car on the way to 390 00:25:48,205 --> 00:25:53,765 Speaker 1: practice is like entering a pink fantasy. 391 00:25:53,805 --> 00:25:57,765 Speaker 2: So we are in. I think it's a Honda Civic 392 00:25:58,125 --> 00:26:00,365 Speaker 2: or like a Nissan I'm not a cargirl at all, 393 00:26:00,525 --> 00:26:04,885 Speaker 2: by the way, but it's on the inside. We have 394 00:26:05,245 --> 00:26:10,605 Speaker 2: a fuzzy, pink steering wheel. We have pink fuzzy dice 395 00:26:10,965 --> 00:26:15,205 Speaker 2: on the rear view marra thing. We have a pink 396 00:26:15,245 --> 00:26:21,285 Speaker 2: little cover thing on the middle console, and then we 397 00:26:21,365 --> 00:26:24,685 Speaker 2: have pink fuzzy seatbelt covers, and then we also have 398 00:26:24,725 --> 00:26:29,685 Speaker 2: a pink trash can in the back. So it's all pink. 399 00:26:29,845 --> 00:26:32,805 Speaker 2: It's all very elwoods, which is like so fitting because like, 400 00:26:32,925 --> 00:26:34,165 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to Harvard. 401 00:26:34,285 --> 00:26:42,165 Speaker 1: Hello Harvard, what Like it's hard kidding. Another perk of 402 00:26:42,245 --> 00:26:45,685 Speaker 1: going to the Ivy of all ivs is that nearby 403 00:26:45,765 --> 00:26:50,525 Speaker 1: Boston has a thriving ball community, so far got a 404 00:26:50,565 --> 00:26:54,125 Speaker 1: little taste of the scene during her prospective students visit. 405 00:26:54,845 --> 00:26:58,085 Speaker 1: She also attended a talent show hosted by the Black 406 00:26:58,125 --> 00:27:02,285 Speaker 1: Student Union. Our girl considered putting the other competitors to 407 00:27:02,365 --> 00:27:06,085 Speaker 1: shame and even practice a bit in the bathroom, but 408 00:27:06,525 --> 00:27:10,765 Speaker 1: she felt nervous and decided to just spectate. She wasn't 409 00:27:10,845 --> 00:27:13,725 Speaker 1: sure her skills were up to par, but when they 410 00:27:13,765 --> 00:27:17,565 Speaker 1: announced the lip sync battle between the incoming freshmen and 411 00:27:17,605 --> 00:27:21,285 Speaker 1: the current freshman, she just couldn't help herself. 412 00:27:21,965 --> 00:27:25,005 Speaker 2: Me and these two other girls. I was like, let's 413 00:27:25,045 --> 00:27:29,605 Speaker 2: lip sync to Alien Superstar by Beyonce. We like played 414 00:27:29,645 --> 00:27:33,605 Speaker 2: the song and I just did a like freestyle like 415 00:27:34,325 --> 00:27:36,965 Speaker 2: voguing moment. I did a couple of little like rumway 416 00:27:37,005 --> 00:27:41,645 Speaker 2: bits in there, but it was just like I literally 417 00:27:41,645 --> 00:27:44,365 Speaker 2: blackout because that was like my first time voguing like 418 00:27:44,685 --> 00:27:48,525 Speaker 2: outside of like a house practice. So I was just 419 00:27:48,565 --> 00:27:52,925 Speaker 2: like it just took control over me, like the ballroom spirit, 420 00:27:53,845 --> 00:27:58,245 Speaker 2: and it was amazing. Literally everyone was gagging after, like 421 00:27:58,485 --> 00:28:00,365 Speaker 2: you ate the fuck out of that, and I like 422 00:28:00,445 --> 00:28:02,245 Speaker 2: hit like my did like at the very end, and 423 00:28:02,285 --> 00:28:04,085 Speaker 2: it was like it was really it was a cute 424 00:28:04,125 --> 00:28:09,245 Speaker 2: moment for sure. And obviously the freshman the incoming freshman team, 425 00:28:09,285 --> 00:28:14,205 Speaker 2: which is my team, we won. So you know, I'm 426 00:28:14,205 --> 00:28:17,925 Speaker 2: not a performance though girl, but like I practice at 427 00:28:17,925 --> 00:28:19,965 Speaker 2: the house practices and I get ready for when I 428 00:28:20,045 --> 00:28:21,525 Speaker 2: want to like pop out a little bit, you know. 429 00:28:22,485 --> 00:28:26,925 Speaker 1: Needless to say, Miss safar ate that lip sync looks 430 00:28:27,045 --> 00:28:31,285 Speaker 1: like those practices paid off in a major way, which 431 00:28:31,365 --> 00:28:35,565 Speaker 1: brings us back to the rehearsal space in Austin. When 432 00:28:35,605 --> 00:28:38,485 Speaker 1: we walk in, she looks like she's right at home. 433 00:28:39,645 --> 00:28:49,805 Speaker 7: Hey, coffee, so so we are in a studio space. 434 00:28:50,805 --> 00:28:52,605 Speaker 2: It's a place where we can get our work done, 435 00:28:52,685 --> 00:28:55,045 Speaker 2: you know. But we kind of just all help each other out. 436 00:28:55,125 --> 00:28:57,645 Speaker 2: The people who like have been doing performance a bit longer, 437 00:28:57,765 --> 00:29:00,765 Speaker 2: they like help out a little the newcomers a little 438 00:29:00,765 --> 00:29:05,085 Speaker 2: bit more. Mother helps look like everything she's been judging 439 00:29:05,565 --> 00:29:08,725 Speaker 2: for years and years. 440 00:29:08,525 --> 00:29:12,165 Speaker 1: And today so far we'll show her house mother Natalie, 441 00:29:12,405 --> 00:29:16,205 Speaker 1: what she's got for the upcoming ball. It's her time 442 00:29:16,285 --> 00:29:19,325 Speaker 1: to prove what she can do and get some necessary 443 00:29:19,365 --> 00:29:24,325 Speaker 1: feedback so she can maximize her slage. They'll be going 444 00:29:24,365 --> 00:29:28,245 Speaker 1: through those five elements of vogue. Here's the cheese sheet, 445 00:29:29,045 --> 00:29:35,845 Speaker 1: spins and dips, hand performance, catwalks, duck walks, and floor performance. 446 00:29:36,805 --> 00:29:40,725 Speaker 1: The dance studio has wooden floors, a wall of mirrors 447 00:29:40,765 --> 00:29:44,125 Speaker 1: on one side and a few ballet bars on the other. 448 00:29:45,485 --> 00:29:49,565 Speaker 1: Natalie has everyone lined up against the wall and one 449 00:29:49,885 --> 00:29:56,485 Speaker 1: by one they bring it to the floor, creating lines, movement, symmetry, 450 00:29:56,685 --> 00:29:59,565 Speaker 1: and flow. 451 00:30:01,245 --> 00:30:07,285 Speaker 7: Up your go, here we go, here we go. 452 00:30:07,565 --> 00:30:18,605 Speaker 3: As to falla Okay, all right, Then it spins and dips. 453 00:30:19,565 --> 00:30:24,485 Speaker 1: Just imagine three hundred and sixty degree twirls faster than 454 00:30:24,525 --> 00:30:28,485 Speaker 1: your eye can catch. Then falling to the ground and 455 00:30:28,685 --> 00:30:30,645 Speaker 1: hoping to the heavens that you landed. 456 00:30:30,925 --> 00:30:35,085 Speaker 2: So now I need to spend it way sign a 457 00:30:35,205 --> 00:30:38,525 Speaker 2: liability form, so don't break your motherfucking bed. 458 00:30:38,965 --> 00:30:44,645 Speaker 1: Sofara and her house siblings glide across the floor gracefully, 459 00:30:45,245 --> 00:30:59,045 Speaker 1: fiercely and confidently. Okay, and now time for one of 460 00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:05,765 Speaker 1: Safara's favorite categories, runway. Everyone is back up against the wall, 461 00:31:06,125 --> 00:31:11,205 Speaker 1: ready to strut, serveface and prayms. 462 00:31:10,645 --> 00:31:11,965 Speaker 2: Sir, who's next? 463 00:31:12,085 --> 00:31:12,885 Speaker 7: Pumping in walking? 464 00:31:12,925 --> 00:31:13,805 Speaker 2: You're popping and serving. 465 00:31:13,885 --> 00:31:14,485 Speaker 7: Yet pumping and. 466 00:31:14,525 --> 00:31:17,205 Speaker 2: Walking gets serving in pups. Pumping in walking gets serving. 467 00:31:17,245 --> 00:31:19,805 Speaker 2: You're pumping your walking, get serving your wine's FLEs. 468 00:31:19,885 --> 00:31:21,925 Speaker 7: Walk, sir. 469 00:31:23,045 --> 00:31:28,925 Speaker 1: When so Far walks runway, you see her transform. Her 470 00:31:29,045 --> 00:31:34,445 Speaker 1: movements become a little sharper, her facial expressions a little 471 00:31:34,445 --> 00:31:38,725 Speaker 1: more dramatic, and it's like she goes from watching herself 472 00:31:38,925 --> 00:31:41,765 Speaker 1: do the moves in the mirror to being out of 473 00:31:41,805 --> 00:31:45,925 Speaker 1: her head and fully present in her body. As she 474 00:31:46,045 --> 00:31:50,485 Speaker 1: struts across the floor. The confidence is palpable, and you 475 00:31:50,685 --> 00:31:54,765 Speaker 1: get the sense that she's found herself not only in 476 00:31:54,805 --> 00:31:59,485 Speaker 1: the moves, but in this community where she can be 477 00:31:59,605 --> 00:32:04,845 Speaker 1: her most authentic self. For a black trans kid who 478 00:32:04,965 --> 00:32:09,965 Speaker 1: grew up surrounded by folks who didn't celebrate or respect her. 479 00:32:10,525 --> 00:32:15,885 Speaker 1: This kind of space proves invaluable. I mean, she gives 480 00:32:15,885 --> 00:32:18,965 Speaker 1: it to you every ball Why you gagging? 481 00:32:19,085 --> 00:32:22,725 Speaker 2: So I feel like ballroom has changed my entire life. 482 00:32:22,805 --> 00:32:25,285 Speaker 2: It is like literally made me so much more extroverted, 483 00:32:26,005 --> 00:32:28,685 Speaker 2: like made me like grow into my personality and my 484 00:32:28,765 --> 00:32:34,285 Speaker 2: confidence as a trans woman. When everyone in ballroom is 485 00:32:34,325 --> 00:32:37,605 Speaker 2: like loud and clear, do you get used to that? Like? 486 00:32:38,085 --> 00:32:40,805 Speaker 2: And it brings out like your extroversion a bit more 487 00:32:41,365 --> 00:32:42,965 Speaker 2: and it allows you to say what was on your 488 00:32:42,965 --> 00:32:45,565 Speaker 2: mind a little bit more. But it's brought out more 489 00:32:45,605 --> 00:32:49,285 Speaker 2: of me into like these non ballroom spaces by being 490 00:32:49,285 --> 00:32:53,605 Speaker 2: in ballroom. And it's just like I don't know i'd 491 00:32:53,605 --> 00:32:56,685 Speaker 2: explained it my personality. I would just say it's it's fun. 492 00:32:56,805 --> 00:33:00,885 Speaker 2: Like I say, like what I'm thinking. I'm just like 493 00:33:01,525 --> 00:33:06,205 Speaker 2: your typical your typical kind it girl, like extraverted it girl, 494 00:33:06,325 --> 00:33:08,085 Speaker 2: Like I just really am that, you know what I mean? 495 00:33:09,125 --> 00:33:12,805 Speaker 2: Having a very close like black queer community and like 496 00:33:13,285 --> 00:33:15,445 Speaker 2: direct family that I can talk to and text it 497 00:33:15,445 --> 00:33:18,405 Speaker 2: any mot and they're gonna like ride for me. It 498 00:33:18,485 --> 00:33:20,925 Speaker 2: is so deeply important. And you won't even realize it 499 00:33:21,005 --> 00:33:22,205 Speaker 2: until unless she's like habit. 500 00:33:22,965 --> 00:33:27,605 Speaker 1: All the hours so far has spent rehearsing, all the 501 00:33:27,725 --> 00:33:31,685 Speaker 1: work she's done to figure out who she is and 502 00:33:31,725 --> 00:33:35,045 Speaker 1: how she wants to present herself in the world, all 503 00:33:35,085 --> 00:33:41,365 Speaker 1: that she survived. She's bringing it to this performance, and 504 00:33:41,445 --> 00:33:45,205 Speaker 1: she's in a room surrounded by others who get her, 505 00:33:45,725 --> 00:33:47,605 Speaker 1: love her, and cherish her. 506 00:33:48,525 --> 00:33:53,365 Speaker 2: This is what she deserves. 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