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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Friday, October eleven, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number sixty two. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at

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Speaker 1: the Star. We're gonna get you guys ready for this

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Speaker 1: Cowboys versus Jets game. It kicks off at three thirty

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Speaker 1: this Sunday in New York. I'm sorry in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: We sort we'll get you guys ready for this game. Um,

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Speaker 1: how everybody feelings Friday morning? I feel fantastic, Derek Howard

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Speaker 1: you go. I'm good. I'm feeling good. And are you good?

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Speaker 1: I'm surviving. I'm good to have you back on the show. Nick,

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Speaker 1: how you doing good? Good? Good? Good? Good? All right,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in. We got to talk about injuries. Man.

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Speaker 1: It seems like you get familiar with what's happening on

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Speaker 1: the field. And actually, as of yesterday when we did

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Speaker 1: the show, it felt like from the injury standpoint, things

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Speaker 1: were looking kind of positive for the Cowboys, and then

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Speaker 1: we find out about another player that ended up on

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Speaker 1: the injury report yesterday. Talk to me about Randall Cobb

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Speaker 1: and where he is not at practice. He actually he

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Speaker 1: on the injury report. I guess he didn't come back.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a back. I didn't get to go

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Speaker 1: to Jason garrets press conference today, so I don't know

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Speaker 1: a ton other than that. But he wasn't at practice today, which,

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Speaker 1: as we always say, is not usually a good sign.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing too is neither one of the

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Speaker 1: offensive tackles was there again today, which that's why we

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Speaker 1: always say, is like, you know, carry it all the

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Speaker 1: way through till Friday. Because I've felt confident all week

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Speaker 1: that Tyron would play in this game. I still think

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Speaker 1: he will, but if he does, we were hearing that

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Speaker 1: he was going to practice today or do something. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's I mean, that's why you wait till Friday.

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Speaker 1: If I had to say, I still kind of feel

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Speaker 1: like he's going to play, but it'll be without practice,

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Speaker 1: which is never a good thing. Jason Garrett said that

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Speaker 1: he expects one of the two tackles to play, Jerry

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Speaker 1: Jones or Jason Garrett. Jerry, Yeah, Jerry said that. Jerry

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Speaker 1: but I expect one of the He's like, we'll have

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Speaker 1: tyring just because he's further removed from his injury. You know,

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Speaker 1: you just have conversations around here. I don't think there

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Speaker 1: has I'll look this up. You were talking. You know.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing too, is if both guys missed the game,

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Speaker 1: and then you wonder, what do they have enough guys

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Speaker 1: think that night and Camp Fleman would start. I guess

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Speaker 1: he didn't mind sending games in seventeen. He has dealt

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Speaker 1: with plenty of injuries over that time span. Though. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I wrote this, and I believe it out behind quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Like what apps is most likely to completely derail a

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Speaker 1: football team, I think it's this team, probably really any team.

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Speaker 1: and again you can't you can't judge a team necessarily

426
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Speaker 1: because they haven't won a single game. Things can happen

427
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: in the NFL and NFL we've seen it happening happen,

428
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's the way they play. Okay,

429
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: we come back here and start analyzing this whole team

430
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 1: for a whole week and start debating whether they're good

431
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 1: enough or not good enough, and then yeah, it matters

432
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: how you win this game. Yeah for us, But that's

433
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. We're not talking about the standing.

434
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 1: So because what if we just said, all right, welcome

435
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: to the show, like, well they one, how it happens

436
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: they won, I mean, you don't, yes, but that what

437
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: I guess the point. Maybe maybe I misunderstood the question.

438
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: That doesn't matter in the grand scheme of how good

439
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: this team is or how not good this team is.

440
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: That matters just because it's a talking point. Right, We're

441
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: gonna talk about it, and that's fine, and that's fine,

442
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 1: and that's fine for us and fans and how we

443
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: feel about it. But at the end of the day,

444
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: when it comes down to whether they're a good team

445
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: or bad team, all you're gonna look at is wins

446
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: and losses, right, And wins and losses will affect how

447
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: you get in the playoffs, where you're seated in the playoffs,

448
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: and then ultimately wins and losses determine who's going to

449
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: be the champion. Right. But okay, I think, but what

450
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Speaker 1: we're saying is is that you win this game thirty

451
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Speaker 1: four to seven, you go up and you play the Eagles,

452
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Speaker 1: and you know, I think they're gonna be winning against

453
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Speaker 1: the Eagles. You win this game twenty seven, twenty four

454
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Speaker 1: and overtime, you're not expected to beat the Eagle. I

455
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 1: mean like you're looking at it like how this team

456
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Speaker 1: is playing and so yeah, it's still four and two,

457
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you're like, well, this is

458
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: not a good football team at all. This is a

459
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: bad four and two football team. You know what's funny, though,

460
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: is the ultimate example of me grading on a curve

461
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: like Miami game. Absolutely, they needed to win that game

462
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: by twenty plus for me to feel like they were

463
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: good with the situation, with these tackles, it changes my

464
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: expectation for what this game might look like completely, and

465
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Speaker 1: I go, you know, home game against the Dolphins, I'm like,

466
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: they need to win by thirty. Road game against the

467
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: Jets without maybe without hiring and Lyle Collins. I'm like,

468
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: just just get through this thing, honestly, get through it

469
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: and get people healthier, and I'll judge you guys getting hurt,

470
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: and they will. I understand that, Like there's always going

471
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: to be injuries, that's nothing new, but like maybe it's

472
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: just PTSD from that twenty seventeen Atlanta game. But I'm

473
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: just like, get get through this game however you can.

474
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: I think they should still win pretty comfortably. But my

475
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: expectations are totally different than the Miami game. I guess

476
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Speaker 1: I just look at it like they're they're always in

477
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 1: the NFL, even in college football, they're always going to

478
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: be weeks win teams just for whatever reason can't quite

479
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: get going. And when you have those kind of situations,

480
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: to me, what shows a really good team is those

481
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: teams that even when it's not working out for them,

482
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: like they are just they're beating their heads against a

483
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: brick wall, they still find a way to win. And

484
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: that's why I'm I'm still a big believer. And if

485
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: you get the win, honestly, it really doesn't matter at

486
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: the end of the day. You found a way, even

487
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: on a bad day, to get a win. It's the

488
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: bad teams that on a bad day end up losing

489
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Speaker 1: to a bad team, right. Yeah. I think what we're saying,

490
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Speaker 1: or at least what I'm saying, is is that your

491
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Speaker 1: expectations of this team and where they're gonna go can

492
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Speaker 1: change on how they play the game. Yeah, that's so

493
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: we're kind of agreeing. Yeah, we're talking. We're probably talking semantic.

494
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Speaker 1: Okay at the end of the day, Yes, but how

495
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: did you get that win? Does for us? Not well?

496
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: Sam Donald? Sam Donald? Sam Donald does what Aaron Rodgers did.

497
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Speaker 1: I think everybody's going to be concerned about. Okay, this

498
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: guy just you know, carved him up a little bit

499
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Speaker 1: his defense. But have we seen enough of Donald to

500
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Speaker 1: know what he is right now? I mean that we have.

501
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's a second third year player. I mean

502
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: that's the point. I mean, he hasn't played enough to

503
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: be carving you up like that. He shouldn't, you know,

504
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: for you, for you to be as good as this

505
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: hot boys and all that stuff, and you know, and

506
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: they're still saying but they're still doing stuff though. I

507
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: mean they should, that should be suspended right now, but

508
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: they're not. They're still doing boys for sure. And I'm

509
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: just saying if if if Donald goes out there, and like,

510
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Speaker 1: we're all going to be a little concerned by that,

511
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: because it's like it's Aaron Rodgers. He's a magician too. Honestly,

512
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Speaker 1: I already am just a little bit concerned about that

513
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: offense because I just don't know what to expect from them.

514
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: They have a running back that they haven't really been

515
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: able to realize what he can be because he had

516
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: they've had funk out there, Like they have not had

517
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback for these last few weeks, soa eight points

518
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: when they had him and get it, say, I don't know,

519
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, And so for me, it makes me

520
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Speaker 1: a little a little uneasy as to what they're gonna be.

521
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Speaker 1: If like I'm I'll just give you my prediction, like

522
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: I'm expecting kind of an ugly, sloppy like I think

523
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Speaker 1: Dack will make some plays. I think it's gonna be

524
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Speaker 1: a grind it out type of running day. I think

525
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: they'll pull away. I said twenty seven thirteen. I could

526
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Speaker 1: see twenty seven ninees just kind of like a convincing win,

527
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: but just kind of gross. But if I mean, I'm

528
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Speaker 1: I agree with Nick that like that wouldn't bother me

529
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Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, you didn't have your tackles blah

530
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. But like if they win thirty

531
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Speaker 1: eight to thirty five and it's just offenses zipping up

532
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: and down the field, then I'm concerned because this offense

533
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: just should not be able to do that to this defense.

534
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: If they're as good as they're supposed to be, okay,

535
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: And I don't think that'll all right, and I have

536
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: twenty eight thirteen, so I haven't. Maybe y'all given this point,

537
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: now I got Brett Maher going two for two, maybe

538
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: let's go. Maybe it's that you guys would give him

539
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: more credit to the defense than I am. Like right now,

540
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: I don't know what this defense is. I don't know

541
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: they're startingly that as good as they were last Yeah,

542
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: but I don't know what they are. It's really more

543
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: me saying I just don't think the Jets are worth

544
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: a damn on offense. That's really all it is. Yeah,

545
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: not I mean the defense. We'll see, we'll get a

546
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: great look at what they are against Philly, But I

547
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: just don't think the Jets should be able to do

548
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: that to him. When you start talking about which side

549
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: of the ball is playing better or whatever, I still

550
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: go back to that Saints game and what the Cowboys

551
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: defense was able to do, containing them to only what

552
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: was it, twelve points? So I mean that's why my

553
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: main concern is still the offense and what they're doing

554
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: the fact that my expectations, at least for last week

555
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: having Michael Gallop back, I thought, okay, well, maybe he

556
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: was a missing piece that was needed to make the

557
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: offense click again, and that didn't happen. And I understand

558
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 1: Tyron wasn't a part of the old line and all that,

559
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I am concerned about the receivers

560
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think that they should rely on more. Huh. No,

561
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what I was thinking. I was thinking

562
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: of the score in my mind. No, I'm just saying

563
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 1: I think they should rely a little more on Zeke

564
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: just because I don't feel that Michael Gallub is a

565
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: hun just yet. And then played awesome last week. Where's

566
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: this hundred yards? But it's still it didn't seem it

567
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: didn't seem like I've been watching him from the past,

568
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, like it just to me, it wasn't what

569
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm used to seeing from him. Respectfully, I disagree pretty

570
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: hard like I thought. I think the passing game is

571
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: the strength of this team right now. I mean, if

572
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: not for turnovers. Well, it got to the fourth quarter

573
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: for them to start doing something, but I mean that's

574
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: the at the end of the day, that's the problem.

575
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: So real quick asking to answer this question, which one's

576
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: been better. If you look at all five games, has

577
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: often been better. The defense been better, offense, offense has

578
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: been great. I think it's a no brain of the

579
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: offense has offen times. You don't think so because we're

580
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: we are using that comparing it when we talked about

581
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Speaker 1: those three first games, and it's like, yeah, they did great,

582
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: but look at who they were playing. Yeah, but this

583
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: last game, the offense had a slow start, but the

584
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: offense still ended up at some point they got on

585
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: a role. And I know that. I know you can

586
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: say that the defense, that the Packers defense may have

587
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: loosened up a little bit. I don't think they loosened

588
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: up enough to just like they were scoring, scoring, scoring,

589
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Like I just think the offense. Yeah, they played a

590
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: bad first half, they came back around and that looked

591
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: more like what we'd seen for most of the season defense.

592
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Speaker 1: And we said this this week, the defense has not

593
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Speaker 1: played a quarterback that has won a game this year,

594
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Speaker 1: and they still haven't with it Sam Darnold. So I mean, well,

595
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: beaten one, you mean because I haven't beaten Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

596
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: that's what that's one again. Yeah, I mean quarterback that

597
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: Packers secondary was third in the league and yards allowed

598
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: going into that game, and they put up any bad

599
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: and the way and not even that. In the first half.

600
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: They were making mistakes, but they were moving the ball.

601
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: There was no doubt they were moving the ball. I mean,

602
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: we were saying in the press box they basically can

603
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: take whatever they want with the MARII like they couldn't

604
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: hold him from the beginning of the game, Like he

605
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 1: was wide open. He was completely losing his guy almost

606
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: every time you saw him downfield. So I don't think

607
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: I think I think it's clear the offense has been better.

608
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: I just think that, you know, I think I think

609
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: the defense is not as good as it was last year.

610
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to question how good are they going

611
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: to be. Are they going to grow into being closer

612
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Speaker 1: to that or is it going to be closer to

613
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: what which so far, To go back to my point,

614
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: that's I'm like, get through this game, win it because

615
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: you need it in the standings, blah blah blah. However,

616
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: you win it out whatever, get some guys healthy, and

617
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: then we get another chance to see what they're really

618
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: about against what I mean I think is always was

619
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,719
Speaker 1: a very good Eagles team. Like people are trying to

620
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: overreact to a couple early season struggles from them, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going anywhere, so big big test

622
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: a week from now. I just I just want, just

623
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: want to get this game out of the way, all right,

624
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: Assuming they win it, we will figure it. We don't

625
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: want to come into work. If they don't do I

626
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: have to be here on Monday. If they don't don't

627
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: want to do it, that either. We'll be back on

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Speaker 1: Monday to tell you guys what went right and what

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Speaker 1: went wrong for the Cowboys is Sunday at three thirty

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Speaker 1: they'll take on the New York Jets in New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Till then for Nick Eatman, Dave Helmet, Amergarcia, I'm Derek Eagleton.

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