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Speaker 1: Malika Andrews is ESPN's lead NBA host and reporter, one

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Speaker 2: Today, she shares how obsessive prep helped her handle comparison,

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, it's your host, Kate Max. Thank you so

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Speaker 4: Malika Andrews, Welcome to Post on Kate.

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Speaker 3: Which is amazing that you're No one is going to

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Speaker 2: This industry is you're constantly competing for eyeballs and competing

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Speaker 3: Like I think any of us are, right.

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Speaker 2: I think you're always we're always looking to be a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's so much more magnified when you're seeing

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Speaker 2: Me if he stands to the inside of, Me i'll

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Speaker 2: whenever it. Comes but you're also there are people who

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Speaker 2: Hosting it is asking, Questions it is being deeply, Curious

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Speaker 3: so it was. Wild WHEN i got the. CALL i

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Speaker 3: A little bit of an old. Soul i've always been

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Speaker 3: WELL i want to go back to the, RUN i

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Speaker 2: them saying can you do this was a. Challenge it

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Speaker 1: To what would you say was the biggest learning curve for?

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Speaker 1: You BECAUSE i know you came from, writing, right you

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Speaker 4: Camera you, know WHEN i know you're doing.

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Speaker 3: I think it was people know what you look.

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Speaker 2: Right it can get rigid at, sometimes and that's where

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Speaker 3: Eyeballs television is your first draft on?

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Speaker 2: curve for me to be able to have a face

445
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 2: attached to it and have it be that draft that

446
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 2: just kind of goes out to the.

447
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 1: World, yeah because writing is one thing where it's your.

448
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 1: Voice but having your voice live on camera as a

449
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 1: completely other. Voice you know that you're sharing with people

450
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,479
Speaker 1: and it is really. Raw and we've interviewed a lot

451
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,119
Speaker 1: of actors ones that do both on screen work and you,

452
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: know a live theater, work and a lot of them say,

453
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 1: like we love live theater because it's the beauty of

454
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: just like what happens.

455
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 4: Live on stage is what. Happens you kind of have.

456
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:25,719
Speaker 3: To roll with.

457
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 4: It, Yeah so what is it like for.

458
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 1: You when you're in moments where maybe you ask the

459
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 1: wrong question or not even the wrong, question but a

460
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 1: question where you're, LIKE i could have delivered that.

461
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,199
Speaker 2: BETTER I SO i still watch back almost every single

462
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 2: show THAT i, do AND i find myself doing a

463
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 2: lot of well that could have come off.

464
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: Differently but also laughing at yourself as a.

465
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 2: Skill, Right when you laugh at, yourself you take away

466
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: the power of other people to laugh at. You and you,

467
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,239
Speaker 2: know what we all, make whether it's a mistake or

468
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,560
Speaker 2: just say something silly or do something that we wish

469
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 2: we maybe said. Differently the other, DAY i said something

470
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 2: on camera about a chicken and a dry, rub and

471
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 2: my Colleague Hendrick perkins looked at me, Like, huh what

472
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: did you just, say AND i was total double entendre

473
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 2: THAT i didn't even realize in the. Moment but you know,

474
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: what the double entendra was even funnier than WHAT i

475
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,199
Speaker 2: was initially trying to.

476
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 3: Say and SO i think that.

477
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,399
Speaker 2: Laughing at myself is only a skill That i've gotten

478
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 2: As i've gotten, older BECAUSE i think that it's really

479
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 2: easy when you feel like your work is, fragile when

480
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: you feel like you are getting a shot but you

481
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 2: haven't nailed it, yet that you're not allowed to make.

482
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 3: Mistakes and there.

483
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: Was and mistakes can be anything from big to, little,

484
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: right but for, me it was anything less than perfect

485
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 2: was a mark against my credibility and ultimately could be

486
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: used as a reason That i'm not good enough in

487
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 2: my own head and other. People's that's the, icky ugly

488
00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: weight of. Perfectionism and so ONE i got a. YEAR

489
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 2: i there's a player the other day who said that

490
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: he's a guy who's not got much play in time

491
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: for The Los Angeles. LAKERS a Do hero is his,

492
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 2: Name and he got run in A Boston celtics game

493
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 2: and he made a mistake and he looked over at

494
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 2: his coach thinking that after his first, mistake they were

495
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: going to yank. Him he's, like nope to you're shortlyast

496
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: to the. Bench and the first time out he looked

497
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: over AND Jj reddick didn't call.

498
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 3: His number to sit.

499
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: Down you let him play through his, mistake and he

500
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 2: said that's the first moment that he relaxed in the.

501
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 2: Game AND i think that laughing laughing at yourself has

502
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: been a evolution for me because at first it felt, like, oh,

503
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: well if everybody's laughing at, me Then i'm going to

504
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 2: get my number called and not going to get.

505
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 3: The chance to try. Again and so NOW i think

506
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 3: that that just it's it's a.

507
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 2: Skill that you have to have because fortunately you're not

508
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: expected to get it right every single, time and.

509
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 3: It makes for a wicked sense of humor at the

510
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: end of the. Day it's more fun that, way.

511
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah and showing your humanity to. People we talked about

512
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: this on the, run but it's, like you, know you

513
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: were saying you're nervous to do the run because you

514
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: because of like having because of wanting to look perfect

515
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: or a certain, way, Right but it's like that's the

516
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: beauty of going for a, run is like nobody looks

517
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: perfect when, running you. Know AND i think that's also

518
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: the beauty of like live television and making mistakes and

519
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: being able to laugh at yourself and you, know everything

520
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: that you're saying because it shows the humanity and it

521
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: also makes people love you. More it's like that's where

522
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: the real fandom comes. From people relate to one, another.

523
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: And that's what you. Want.

524
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: People my job is to talk about something that people

525
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: love in their living rooms every, Day LIKE i get

526
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 2: to talk ABOUT i have the best job in the

527
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: whole wide. WORLD i have The Monty. WILLIAMS i have

528
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 2: a get to, job not a have two. JOB i

529
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 2: get to do this every single. Day and getting to do,

530
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: it getting to talk about sport or means having a

531
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: conversation with fans who aren't expecting you necessarily to show

532
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 2: up as a perfect.

533
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 3: Person and also every person that you're talking to is.

534
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 2: Different so the way that what you say is going

535
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: to strike this span differently than it's going to strike this,

536
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: span then it's differently than it's going to strike this.

537
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 2: Span and so the more comfortable you get with just

538
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 2: playing and you're you no matter, what then if if

539
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: that's not good, enough then that's that is what it,

540
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: is you. KNOW i think that that's not your opinion

541
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: of me is none of my? Business isn't that the?

542
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: PHRASE i think it's that.

543
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: You talked about this on the run where you always

544
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: say like journalists, First but when did you become a big.

545
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 3: Sportspan huge part of my?

546
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: Life SO i my main sports growing up were horseback

547
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 2: riding and, soccer but also, volleyball little, basketball. SKIING i

548
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: was a big skier because my dad sort of, said you,

549
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: know you can do.

550
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: It you can do anything as long as.

551
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: You're not sitting here meeting on my, couch like whatever

552
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: you want to, do as long as you're not sitting

553
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: on the couch on A saturday, morning go.

554
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: Outside you. KNOW i grew up in a go outside.

555
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: Family and so that though at, night when After i'd

556
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 2: played my soccer games and gone to my horseback riding,

557
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: competitions my dad loved to watch The Golden State, warriors

558
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: and we were a family that sat down for dinner

559
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: every night at seven o'clock altogether at the dinner, table

560
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: dinner in front of THE tv didn't happen unless it

561
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: was A Golden State warriors game that my dad really

562
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 2: wanted to. Watch and so that sort of became our

563
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: cheat code to have dinner in front of THE tv

564
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 2: is if The warriors were playing a big game that

565
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: my dad didn't want to.

566
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: Record he wanted to watch. Live and SO i always was.

567
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: Interested in, sports love sports, literate and. Sports loved to work.

568
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: OUT i was boxed for a. Time it was always

569
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: something THAT i, enjoyed BUT i never saw that as

570
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: a career UNTIL i got to. COLLEGE i was sent

571
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: to boarding school WHEN i was really, young and SO

572
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: i moved out at a very young. AGE i moved

573
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: out of my house at fourteen.

574
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 3: AND i never went.

575
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: Back AND i have a great relationship with my parents

576
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: and everything is wonderful. There but for, me that always

577
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: gave me a sense OF i was different AND i

578
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: didn't always find myself having a place of. Belonging and

579
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: so WHEN i was looking at, colleges first of, ALL

580
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: i was choosing a place that had very small class

581
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: sizes BECAUSE i was a graduating class of six.

582
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 3: In high.

583
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: School and, secondly when you talk about, STORYTELLING i was

584
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: still trying to figure out mine to articulate BECAUSE i

585
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: got so when people said something as innocuous as where

586
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: are you From, Oakland, oh where'd you go to high,

587
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: school because that's how people want to relate to each.

588
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: OTHER i had this whole backstory.

589
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: Of, WELL i went to boarding school In, utah and you,

590
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: know AND i didn't always want to talk about.

591
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: It and so.

592
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 2: WHEN i started writing for, me was always trying to

593
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: piece together my own story and my own voice and

594
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: what that looked like and how to articulate. That and

595
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: that is where my love of writing initially came. From

596
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: WAS i was just trying to voice WHO i, was

597
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 2: and even simpler than, that because that's a big, question

598
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: who AM? I how the heck DID i get? Here

599
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i had these years THAT i.

600
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: Was trying to fill in in a way that made

601
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: sense to people and was quote unquote. Relatable, Right that's

602
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: what everyone wants to, be is.

603
00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: Relatable AND i felt LIKE i was deeply unrel BECAUSE

604
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: i didn't have a high school experience that other people.

605
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: Had and the farther you get away from, that the

606
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: more chapters of life you have to use to relate

607
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: to other. People but WHAT i only had as an

608
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: eighteen year, old the past four years of people going

609
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: to prom and doing all of these, THINGS i felt

610
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: LIKE i had no. Relatability and SO i turned in

611
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: on myself and my own story and my writing to

612
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: try to just figure out how to explain to people.

613
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: My why and my, who and that.

614
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: Then turned into wanting to understand and be that voice

615
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: for other.

616
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: People what do you feel like you?

617
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: Realized so for and for a little bit of, context

618
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: the boarding school that you went to was like a

619
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: therapeutic therapeutic, program And maliko was struggling with anxiety and

620
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: depression at a young, age which a lot of people struggle,

621
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: with but, yours you took. It yours was maybe a

622
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: next level where you had to go to this program

623
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: and you did a little bit of like wilderness, camp,

624
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 1: Right so what would you say coming out of that

625
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: you realized your why?

626
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: WAS i think that's something, Honestly i'm still figuring. Out

627
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: BUT i think that when sometimes What i've realized is

628
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: when you encourage people to be, authentic if that's something

629
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: that you're asking or requiring of your friend or your

630
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: neighbor or your, colleague recognize that when you're asking for,

631
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: authenticity your authenticity is not the same as. Theirs and

632
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: so for, ME i think THAT i would bristle when

633
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: people would, say, well tell me about high school and

634
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: looking for that to be a point of, relatability when

635
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: for me it wasn't a point of relatability to. People

636
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: and so this and that transfers over to now, this

637
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: the most authentic version of me speaks With oxford without

638
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: An oxford comma and with m dashes in my sense

639
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: and says and for some people that feels uppity or.

640
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: Forster but just realize that your version of authenticity is

641
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: not someone. Else's and that is WHAT i think THAT

642
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: i have grown to realize was my both pain point

643
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: and ALSO i think gives me empathy now because, yes

644
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: my producers.

645
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: Are always telling me to.

646
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: Like let, loose be, more you, know, real AND i

647
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: was like, THIS i sit, straight that is what is

648
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: real to, me and that's, Okay like that there is

649
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 2: room for that entire shade and that entire. Rainbow and

650
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: SO i think that that's probably WHAT i take away

651
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: from that, most because my high school reads a little

652
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: bit more like a novel that is a novelty than it.

653
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: DOES i never went to PROM i never all these

654
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: things that other PEOPLE i didn't, Have and for a

655
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: long TIME i was embarrassed to be different in a

656
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: world where people were saying being different is. COOL i

657
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: felt like my different wasn't. Cool, yeah and THEN i

658
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: think my lesson is so what if it's not? So

659
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: so what if it's not, Cool it's still your story

660
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: and it's the only ONE i.

661
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 4: Got did you play basketball growing up or? No?

662
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: Not, well basketball for you really was the.

663
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: Fandom basketball for me was the, fandom and it was THE.

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Speaker 2: Basketball for, me it WAS i want to work IN

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Speaker 2: i wanted to. Do AND i felt like the, richest

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Speaker 3: Stories lived in.

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Speaker 2: Sports and, also BECAUSE i do think this is important

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Speaker 2: to better reflect the fans and the athletes that we.

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Speaker 3: Cover and so that conversation that was.

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Speaker 2: NECESSARY i knew THAT i needed to be.

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Speaker 3: A part of telling stories at that.

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Speaker 2: Moment and, so, yes it was a love of, sports

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Speaker 3: Writing and it.

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Speaker 2: Was also this is a, need a market need THAT

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Speaker 2: i THINK i can feel incredibly well because this is

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Speaker 2: my passion AND i THINK i can do it.

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Speaker 3: Well so when AND i think that's.

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Speaker 2: Important because this is a very competitive field and oftentimes you, hear,

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Speaker 2: well just take the job and figure. Out look around

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Speaker 2: coming up during a time WHERE i really felt the

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Speaker 2: need for our voices to be better heard in the sports.

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Speaker 1: Industry what do you feel like was the biggest learning

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Speaker 3: Industry you could do. It you could with, time, yeah,

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Speaker 3: sure but also you could. Cover you could.

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Speaker 2: Cover i've wrote a story On Meb, kaflevsky the marathon.

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Speaker 2: RUNNER i knew nothing about marathon running WHEN i worked

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Speaker 2: For The, times and that was sort of it was

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Speaker 2: i think WHEN i was at The Denver, POST i

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Speaker 2: Covered SO i think that the hardest part in the

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Speaker 2: was finding stories and building sources at, first, right because

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Speaker 2: there are and that came from people Like Adrian woojnarowski

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Speaker 2: And Mark spears And Mark stein saying this Is malika

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Speaker 3: Huge trust is. All the trust is the currency.

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Speaker 2: That MEDIA i won't even say HAS i will say

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Speaker 2: it has had and it is our job right now

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Speaker 2: ME i don't have that, voice and she, said, no

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Speaker 2: thirty years, ago because people nowadays trust their neighbors more

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Speaker 2: trust has eroded in a lot of, ways and so

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Speaker 2: when you sound like you and that's your, neighbor that

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Speaker 2: Way it used to be that deep voice signal. Trust

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Speaker 3: Trust and SO i think that building.

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Speaker 2: most important singular goal in This and whether that's big

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Speaker 4: Say, YES i have found though.

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Speaker 1: That, okay WHILE i, AGREE i think THE i think

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Speaker 1: the reporter.

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Speaker 1: it's like you have to find your strong voice and

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Speaker 1: know how to use it when you're on.

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Speaker 3: Camera well you have.

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Speaker 2: To you know that when you're, running it's from your

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Speaker 2: Stomach you can't talk from your head, voice you have

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Speaker 2: and so that goes from the how you walk into

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Speaker 2: a room to how you sound.

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Speaker 3: In that, room all of these different.

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Speaker 2: Things but, YEAH i, mean give me a give me

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Speaker 2: A Barbara walter's voice any.

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Speaker 4: DAY i don't know What Barbara walter's, VOICE i need

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Speaker 4: to listen to.

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Speaker 3: It I'm i'm Not Matt.

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Speaker 2: Voice Robin roberts is an incredible. Voice Katie kuric has

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Speaker 4: His voice is.

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Speaker 1: GREAT i actually got to Interview bob on a hartpet

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Speaker 3: HAVE i Love.

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Speaker 2: BOB i, mean he's fantastic and it's been so kind

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Speaker 3: we love a great.

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Speaker 2: Voice it's just a different there's there's just a different

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Speaker 2: EXPECTATION i think, now or maybe even different tolerance for

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Speaker 2: different types of.

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Speaker 3: Voices BUT i do love a nightly. NEWS i do.

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Speaker 1: TOO i think the media is adapting and, changing and

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Speaker 1: certain things will always stay true and and you, know

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Speaker 4: In the, news like the nightly.

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Speaker 1: News BUT i think it's going to be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see how how news outlets continue to change and evolve

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Speaker 1: with kind of media trends and what people are gravitating.

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Speaker 1: TOWARDS i think one of the things, too THAT i

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Speaker 1: like talking about with, people AND i feel like it

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Speaker 1: really is your is your career path Is you started

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Speaker 1: out as a writer and then you have now moved

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Speaker 1: into on screen hosting and live. Television AND i feel

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Speaker 1: like it's such a testament to you have to chase

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Speaker 1: the thing that gives you energy and you're passionate, about

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Speaker 1: which for you was writing but.

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Speaker 3: Into the microphone to all your.

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Speaker 2: Listeners but, anyways continue, yes you were saying, yes nice

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Speaker 4: Know things happen after the. Run you never, know we

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Speaker 1: Out but it's also like a testament to you, know

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Speaker 1: chase your, passion but don't be afraid of the opportunities

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Speaker 1: that come up along the.

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Speaker 2: for me that unknown came FROM i know THAT i

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Speaker 2: am a good writer AND i love to, write AND

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Speaker 2: printing the newspaper every, day AND i loved being a

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Speaker 2: also people didn't expect it of.

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Speaker 2: And SO i think that it's okay to acknowledge when

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Speaker 2: you're a little bit afraid to. Jump AND i was

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Speaker 2: BECAUSE i had the comfort of the known over here

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Speaker 2: most successful people in this, business you're going to see

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Speaker 2: for a, challenge AND i knew that this was going

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Speaker 2: to be a new.

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Speaker 1: Challenge so for the people, listening can you walk us

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Speaker 1: through like what a week in the life looks like for,

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Speaker 1: you and like a day and the life and kind

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Speaker 1: of break down the different shows that you host on

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Speaker 1: that people can expect to see you on ON.

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00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: Espn, Absolutely so My monday through Five. Friday My monday Through,

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Speaker 2: FRIDAY i HOST nba To day ON espn and that's

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Speaker 2: at Noon West coast time Noon, pacific three O'clock. Eastern

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00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: so my day for that. Show our production meetings at

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Speaker 2: seven am every, day SO i try to get up

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Speaker 2: five forty five six and have a little bit OF

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Speaker 2: i found myself WHEN i was getting up six six.

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Speaker 3: THIRTY i just run straight into the.

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Speaker 2: Meeting so this gives you time for, coffee meditate a little,

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Speaker 2: that ten minutes of sunlight you're supposed to get in the.

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Speaker 3: Morning but that's.

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Speaker 2: Aspirational sometimes at six thirty and you're running straight into the.

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Speaker 2: MEETING i aspire to be five forty five. Six THEN

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Speaker 2: i have my production meeting from, seven typically to seven.

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Speaker 2: Thirty i'll get a workout in head into the office

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Speaker 2: and work on the show in here and, makeup and

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Speaker 2: then downstairs in the newsroom with all of my. PRODUCERS

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Speaker 2: i help write the entire show top to, bottom and

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Speaker 2: we're live from noon to One pacific time every.

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Speaker 3: Day we have a post show meeting at one.

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00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: Thirty on non double show days and non game, days that's.

882
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: When i'll go ride my.

883
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 2: Horse it's about thirty minutes from the, office which is super,

884
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: easy and So i'll go Ride charlie and then try

885
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 2: to get home to watch games that start around four

886
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 2: O'clock pacific. Time on double show, days which Is wednesdays

887
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: and Some, FRIDAYS i will stay in the office reb

888
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 2: to a second production meeting around one thirty for my next,

889
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 2: show and then dive into writing that show with a

890
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: different team of. Producers and we're live somewhere between three

891
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: thirty and four, o'clock And i'll be at the office

892
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: until nine nine thirty because usually we have two, games

893
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: so you'll DO nba, today the pregame, show halftime of

894
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: both the, games a postgame wrap, up and THEN i

895
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: get to head.

896
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 3: Home those are the DAYS i don't get up at

897
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: five forty five the next. Morning that's WHEN i sleep.

898
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: In, no it's such an impressive schedule that you guys,

899
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: maintain BUT i feel like it's also a nice schedule

900
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: because it's not like you're sitting at a desk all,

901
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: day like you need to move, around and just from meeting,

902
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: YOU i can tell you're the type of person that

903
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: like it needs to be.

904
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: LIKE i worked at a law firm straight out of,

905
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: college or actually before, college a straight out of high.

906
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: School, RATHER i worked at a law firm and.

907
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: It WAS i have so much respect for that job

908
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: and the importance of, it BUT i found that sitting

909
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: at a desk wasn't.

910
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: Necessarily what was made for.

911
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: Me my mom's an art, teacher my dad's a personal,

912
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 2: trainer so maybe it runs in my jeans or, something

913
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: BUT i knew THAT i wanted to whatever it. WAS

914
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: i didn't want my job to look the same every,

915
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: day and it certainly does. Not Sometimes i'm running off

916
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: to INTERVIEWS i Got delta miles is looking sitting in

917
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: a pretty.

918
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: Place you. KNOW i get to use the points to

919
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 3: go on a vacation once a.

920
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: Year so, YEAH i wanted a job where there was

921
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: a little bit of a twist and a surprise and

922
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: it kept you guessing and, busy and that's sort of

923
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: like your. Job that's definitely WHAT i, have AND i

924
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: meet the most tremendous. People that's been the coolest part

925
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: of my. JOB i had someone recently give me some

926
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: advice THAT i have taken to, heart and that, is.

927
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 3: You're at a.

928
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 2: Place in your life when you make a little bit

929
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 2: of money and you are in a little bit more

930
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: of a comfortable, position and you have a.

931
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: Career treat your life as if it's graduate.

932
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: School you have access to all of these wonderful and interesting.

933
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: People ask them the.

934
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Question we talked to some of the most, successful, creative,

935
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: smart ambitious people in the. World not everything you asked

936
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 2: them has to be For why wouldn't you ask them

937
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: some of the questions that you've been pining after and

938
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: use your network of people to be your graduate.

939
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: Course AND i.

940
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: Kind of love that because that's the best part of

941
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: my job is the PEOPLE i get to talk.

942
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: To it's one of my favorite things about being an

943
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: interviewer is being able to meet the breath of people

944
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: that we get to meet and have so many interesting

945
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: conversations and so many fun opportunities do come out of.

946
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: It SO i am completely aligned with you on that.

947
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: Note in twenty twenty, two you were the first woman

948
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: to ever host THE Nba.

949
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: Draft what does that mean to?

950
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: You?

951
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: Wild, Right it's wild because it was twenty twenty two

952
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: and the draft's been you, know there's been decades of,

953
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 2: drafts and there was, many many, deserving qualified women before

954
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: me to do. IT i kind of just so happened

955
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 2: to be in the right place at the right. Time

956
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: it was also on the fiftieth anniversary Of Title, mind

957
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 2: so it was really. Special and SOMETIMES i, think you,

958
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: know people read my bio and that's usually in, there

959
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: the first woman to host The. Draft AND i REMEMBER

960
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: i took a nap before the draft AND i woke

961
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: up they made that announcement THAT i was the first

962
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: woman to host The draft WHILE i was, napping AND

963
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: i woke up to one hundred text messages on my,

964
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: phone and one of them was From Doris, burke who

965
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 2: is the first woman to occupy so many different, roles.

966
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: And she said she just liked go get them AND.

967
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: I was, like, okay If dora says, It dora says

968
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: it LIKE i was ready to.

969
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 3: Run through a.

970
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: Wall AND i thought a lot of responsibility BECAUSE i

971
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: think when you are the, first you want to make

972
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: sure that you are not the.

973
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: Last i've hosted The draft every year.

974
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 2: Since it's one of my favorite assignments because you get

975
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: to see. People it's that touching your dreams thing that

976
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: we talked about so Many so often there's not a

977
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 2: single moment that represents everything you've worked.

978
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 3: For the draft is that for these young.

979
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: People BUT i wanted to show THAT i and we

980
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: could do it and to not mess it. UP i

981
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: REMEMBER i wore a yellow suit From dianeva on FURSTERBERKUSE

982
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: i wanted to wear like a woman designer and she

983
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: her in charge mindset and the way that she champions

984
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: women was something.

985
00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 3: THAT i wanted to.

986
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 2: Embody and then ONCE i got through the initial pomp

987
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: and circumstance of they wanted to say on the anniversary

988
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 2: Of title nine that this is something that we're, doing

989
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: it was like it was just, okay let's go nail this.

990
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: Assignment AND i was avited back so that it was

991
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 2: a cool.

992
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: Thing it is really impressive that you've been able to

993
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: do it now every year since twenty twenty. TWO i

994
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: want to ask what preparation looks like going into hosting

995
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: something like, That like what does your preparation look?

996
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 2: Like that's a good, question and it's, like the very

997
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: technical answer is THE Nba draft and THE Nba finals

998
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: are in very close. Proximity so unlike THE nfl or THE,

999
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: wnba when there's sort of months between the end of

1000
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: the professional, season weeks between the end of the professional,

1001
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: season and there's. Days there WAS i think three days

1002
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: because it went to seven games this last. Year SO

1003
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 2: i start in THE Nba finals working with my fantastic singular,

1004
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: Researcher Matt, williams and we start going through the mock

1005
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: draft every single, guy AND i create a binder that

1006
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: has a page per player with notes and fun facts and.

1007
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: You, know their favorite dessert.

1008
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 2: Is and then a lot of the AGENTS i will

1009
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: call AND i will, say, hey you know doing the

1010
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 2: draft this, YEAR i want to set up a call

1011
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 2: with you know the player BECAUSE i like to ask

1012
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: guys there are some interviews that require a, hardness and

1013
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: there's interviews that require a, toughness and you, KNOW i

1014
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: don't share. Questions we're coming in to get to the

1015
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: bottom of this and the. Truth and then there's interviews

1016
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: and moments that this is going to be the soundtrack

1017
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 2: to your dream coming. True AND i want to know

1018
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: from guys what they would like said about themselves in

1019
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 2: the moment that they walk across the stage and pass

1020
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: this threshold from college or overseas to professional. Basketball and

1021
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 2: SO i try to set up calls with as many

1022
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: AS i can to get that input of they want

1023
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: to hear about their. Grandma they don't want to hear

1024
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 2: about the passing of this person that was close to

1025
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 2: them because they think that in that moment is going

1026
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 2: to be too. Hard and SO i try to get

1027
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: as many of those calls AS i can. DONE i

1028
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 2: have go through with my researcher all of the, players

1029
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: and we go sixty, deep and then we try to

1030
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: add another ten on top of. THAT i alphabetize that.

1031
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: BINDER i put the top three picks in the front three,

1032
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: pages and everything else is alphabetized so that when what

1033
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: happens is the pick comes. IN i get a tap

1034
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: on my shoulder and it's like a you, know the trash,

1035
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 2: pickers the pickup. Trash so my research is sitting far behind,

1036
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: me so he has to tap me with like a

1037
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 2: trash picker type thing and it has the name of

1038
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: As Adam silver has the name in his, hand the

1039
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 2: guy who is getting. Drafted he hands me the. Card,

1040
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: OKAY i see that It's Cooper. FLAG i flip to

1041
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: that page my binder so that by the Time Adam

1042
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: silver says, It i'm into my page of notes THAT

1043
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: i have worked the last couple of weeks to get.

1044
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: To, oh it is such a special thing to be

1045
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: a part of because it's such a positive moment in

1046
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: these kids'. Lives on the flip side of, THAT i

1047
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: feel like one of the scary things a little bit

1048
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: about sports and commentating is there's so many fans of these, sports, right.

1049
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 4: And so it's like you're live on.

1050
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: Television you're making sometimes your takes in the, moment and

1051
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: there's obviously people are.

1052
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 4: Going to agree with some of the.

1053
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: Takes they're going to not, agree, Right so there's criticism

1054
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: that comes with the industry that you're, in just naturally

1055
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of more of like a lighthearted fun,

1056
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: criticism but people take theirs seriously, Seriously so, like how

1057
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: do you deal with criticism in the sports?

1058
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: World much better now THAN i did WHEN i was.

1059
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 2: Younger everybody has their, opinions and you know, what they're

1060
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: entitled to, Them But i'm just like you're entitled to your.

1061
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: Opinion i'm entitled to not, listen AND i do think

1062
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 2: though it's really important UNDERSTAND i don't.

1063
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: READ i don't read comments.

1064
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: ANYMORE i try to have the social media team AT

1065
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: espn does a great. Job my team does a great

1066
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: job OF i never want to be so closed off

1067
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: that you can't.

1068
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,240
Speaker 3: Hear there's a difference between.

1069
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: Hearing, people not hearing, people and not protecting yourself, Right

1070
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 2: AND i do want to hear when fans think that

1071
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 2: the show you were talking too fast for me to.

1072
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: UNDERSTAND i want to hear things THAT i can work

1073
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: on and be better to help people feel like they're

1074
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 2: more of them in the conversation in their living. ROOM

1075
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: i think there's you just have to sort out understanding

1076
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: that when people have mean spirited things to, say they're

1077
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: probably dealing with something.

1078
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 3: THEMSELVES i did not truly believe that five.

1079
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 2: Years, ago nor DO i always truly believe that in

1080
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: the moment when someone says something that's, like, hey you know,

1081
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: what that's not. Nice there was a story In The

1082
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: New York times recently about The coldplay concert woman and

1083
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: how there is a human behind every viral. Moment so

1084
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: as much as you laugh and you share it with

1085
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: your friends and, HEY i think that The coldplay camera

1086
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,720
Speaker 2: was a whole lot of, fun there's always a life

1087
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: and a person and a feeling that you are speaking

1088
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: to THAT i think is important to. Remember but the

1089
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 2: good news is the vast majority of people understand, that

1090
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: and it's okay to say this hurts my. Feelings it's

1091
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 2: okay to understand that you did something that you wish

1092
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: you did.

1093
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: Differently AND i think.

1094
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: That largely sports fans understand that and never be.

1095
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: Above saying my, bad my.

1096
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 2: BAD i Called cedric, coward calling, coward AND i felt so,

1097
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: terrible AND i called him AND i, Said i'm so.

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00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 3: SORRY i messed. Up you don't want to mess. Up it.

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00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: Happens we're. HUMAN i think the important thing is not

1100
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: both not beating yourself, up but also not regressing too.

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00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 3: Well i'm.

1102
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: Human it, happens and letting that be the excuse that

1103
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 2: doesn't make you tell somebody, else, HEY i see, this

1104
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 2: AND i see HOW i could be better.

1105
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 3: Here.

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00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah and it's also, sports like you have to be

1107
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: allowed to have funny opinions in the.

1108
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: Moment, LUCKILY i usually get to set up my colleagues

1109
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 2: for their funny opinions AND i get to hear, them

1110
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: AND i.

1111
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: Tend to be the person who.

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00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 5: That's HOW i tend to be the person that gets

1113
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 5: to like ask the questions and and BUT i have

1114
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 5: a deep admiration for the opinionists because it's hard to

1115
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 5: put yourself out there because.

1116
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 3: They are going to be people who agree and. Disagree,

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00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: baby it's so.

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00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: True, honestly it's, yeah it's. Uh opinionists are, great but

1119
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: it is hard.

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00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: To be on that side of the. Camera AND I

1121
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 4: i don't know if that's not for. Me, OKAY i

1122
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 4: have some fun like pop questions for.

1123
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: You, so first, one and what do you THINK nba

1124
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: players care more about than fans?

1125
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 2: Realize why DO i THINK nba players care more about

1126
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 2: than fans?

1127
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: Realize they're. Hairlines they're all like, yeah, yeah and every

1128
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 3: GUY i Think, yeah that's every. Guy shout Out Richard.

1129
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 3: Jefferson no hairline. THERE i feel Like i've been making

1130
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 3: fun Of richard's hairline a lot.

1131
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: Lately so Like, richard we appreciate that you use body

1132
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 2: wash on your.

1133
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: Head we.

1134
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: Do.

1135
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 4: Okay who is the best player to? Interview, oh that's

1136
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:30,760
Speaker 4: a wonderful.

1137
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 2: Question i've done a couple with him, recently So victor's

1138
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: at the top of my mind right.

1139
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 3: Now But Steph curry also.

1140
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: Incredible Anthony edward's also incredible for very different.

1141
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: Reasons who is the funniest player off?

1142
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: Camera, Oh Josh hart's low, key very, funny AND i

1143
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: feel like people wouldn't expect That aunt is just as,

1144
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 2: funny if not funny or off camera as he is.

1145
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: On SO i feel like people would know that he's.

1146
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: Hilarious shout Out.

1147
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: Josh who's the most guarded player to? Interview somebody that's

1148
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: hard to get things out, of but you want to

1149
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: learn more ABOUT.

1150
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,720
Speaker 2: I would Say i'd love to learn more About LaMelo

1151
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: ball because young people really love, him and you, Know

1152
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: charlotte's had a couple of hard, years BUT i find

1153
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: him to be.

1154
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: Fascinating, okay this is probably a question for like one

1155
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: of the, opinionists but who's the best.

1156
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 4: Trash talker in THE? Nba, oh in a, fun lighthearted.

1157
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 3: Way, Guys, no they're.

1158
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: ALL i Mean Dylan brooks has been doing some exceptional

1159
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: trash talking, lately.

1160
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: But Draymond green is always always up. There.

1161
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: YEAH i also think in the career that you are

1162
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 1: that you're now in where you're interviewing people and having

1163
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: to connect with so many people on an everyday, basis

1164
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: like a new person every, day right like you're, filming

1165
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: you have to immediately kind of drop the ego and

1166
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: be there for. THEM i think going through what you

1167
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: went through it kind of makes it so that you

1168
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: can connect with, anybody do you know WHAT i?

1169
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 3: MEAN i, Do AND i think that.

1170
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: When you have when you have when you have trial

1171
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 2: in your, life when you go through something, hard when

1172
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 2: you have to everything another one of my favorite quotes

1173
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: is everything that you want is on the other side of,

1174
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: hard and for me that has certainly been the. Truth

1175
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 2: and it's also not been a before and after. Story

1176
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 2: it is a sometimes the days are still hard BECAUSE

1177
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 2: i have loud voices that tell me that you should

1178
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: be critical of this piece of. Yourself or critical of

1179
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: that piece of yourself in high, school those voices got

1180
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: too loud and that's WHERE i had to get help

1181
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 2: to turn down the.

1182
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: Volume but, sometimes you know the, radio it still.

1183
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: Turns up a little, bit and SO i think that

1184
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 2: that gives, ME i, hope a humility and an ability

1185
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: to listen to other people's hard even if they're a

1186
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 2: little bit different than.

1187
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: Mine, Definitely, well we can have an entire episode on,

1188
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: that and if you guys want to learn more about,

1189
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: that check out The, squeeze because you really did go

1190
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: deep on that podcast talking all about you high school.

1191
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: Experience but until next, Time, melika thank you so much

1192
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: for coming on our run And Post Run. High you're

1193
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: amazing AND i can't wait to see you On Good

1194
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: Morning america in two.

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Speaker 3: Weeks thank you so.

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Speaker 4: Much thank you guys so much for listening to today's.

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Speaker 1: EPISODE i really loved this conversation With, melika AND i

1198
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: hope you've left it feeling as inspired AS i.

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Speaker 3: Did if you.

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1206
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,120
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