WEBVTT - What's Alex Jones Up To Now? 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:05.320 Mmm, Hello Internet, I'm Robert Evans and this is once 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.280 again Behind the Bastards, the show where we tell you 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.480 everything you don't know about the very worst people in 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:12.160 all of history. And today we have a very special 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:14.960 episode for all of you. It's another episode on Alex Jones, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.800 the epilogue of Alex Jones, you can call it. And 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.480 my guest today are the guys from Knowledge Fight Dan 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.639 and Jordan. How are y'all doing today? Are doing great? 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:30.479 Thanks for having us uh In case our listeners don't know, 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:33.839 Dan knows a lot about Alex Jones. Jordan's does not 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.520 know much about Alex Jones. But in reality, you both 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.120 know an enormous amount about Alex Jones because you've recorded 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:44.120 hundreds of podcasts episodes about him too. To my everlasting regret, 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.000 I started doing this podcast because I wanted to hang 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:48.920 out with my friend, and now I know too much 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:53.760 about this man. Yeah, yeah, influence y'all's podcast. Knowledge Fight 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.600 listeners can go to Knowledge Fight dot com if you 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:57.960 want to hear more about Alex Jones. They break down 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.680 his episodes. You guys are both doing them hondern stuff 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.320 and you go like back to two thousand eight nine, episodes. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:06.039 Y'all's podcasts have become one of my favorite. I kind 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.319 of learned about it as I was finishing up the 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.399 first Alex Jones podcast. But I listen to you guys 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.600 two or three times a week. I was trying to 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.559 get caught up. I love your stuff, enjoy it. Yeah, 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.880 thank you very much. Well, yeah, we absolutely appreciate your 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:22.600 work as well. Well, let's let's get into this. Let's 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:26.039 talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Sure, i'd like 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.400 to open this video this alright, I'd like to open 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.639 this episode with special video I found of Alex Jones 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.520 on Inauguration Day, outrageously drunk and ranting about some sort 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:36.840 of bizarre future space program. Have you guys seen this one? 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:43.360 I I have horrific memories of Inauguration night, Election night. 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.559 That whole season was pretty bad. Time they're watching Alex Jones. 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.000 I forget when I came across this one, but it's 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.320 pretty remarkable. I like it because it showcases Alex Jones 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.560 as drunk as I think he's ever been. But that 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.160 may be optimistic on my part. I would say so 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:05.160 he's reached some dioling heights of intoxication. There are four 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.880 ways to learn, one of which is race memory. I 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:14.839 believe that's very, very druyful. Yeah. None, none of those 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:17.240 four ways to learn, by the way that he references 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:23.799 were reading research, any kind of physical look. Libraries are 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.880 where he goes to uh ship. Basically he's not He's 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.560 not there for the books. They have free coffee. All right, 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.000 I'm gonna play this video just to warm up the 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.799 waters for our listeners. Here, here's drunk Alex Jones's will 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:40.160 be created and a launch space program that Cyne Patty 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:45.120 of the space a loss of program. That's the big difference. 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.280 The new Atlanta S will be created at a launch 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.680 space program, the Cyne Matty of the space A loss 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.520 of program. Put Smanty on the bat forever in the galaxy. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.960 Get a loss of program and our ancestral thousand here 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:04.080 now on hundreds and hundreds of star systems and galaxies. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.200 They'll look back and say, these are the people that 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.760 adds a vision that they did all. It won't beat Japan, 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:14.920 it won't be China will be, Russia, won't be. Latin America, America, 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:22.080 Latin America, chill America. No, wrong America, wrong America. I 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.360 do love it. Seems like an Alex Jones's conception of 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.560 the world. Canada just kind of gets a free ride 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.760 onto the space train, like just just lumping them in. 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:35.880 They're they're white. Alex's world seems like a joke, but 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:38.240 that is where his head is at, so that is 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.800 kind of. Yeah, my favorite part of that, if I 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.640 remember that night correctly, that was he's stumbling around d 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.400 C and a little bit after that in the video, 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.000 he ends up running into a bunch of fans and 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:54.080 he almost catatonically shakes hands with people, like people keep 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.360 coming up doing like Alex Jones is like, how's it going, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.520 But he's almost unconscious when he's talking to these people. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.000 It's just it's a very weird dynamic he seems to 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.240 have with people. But I don't think anybody hates Alex 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:09.560 Jones listeners more than Alex Jones. He despises his his 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.560 fans so much. That actually gets us onto sort of 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.320 what we'll be talking about for a big chunk of 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.600 this episode, which is the contempt that he seems to 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:19.760 have for the people who have given him everything that 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:23.920 he has. Your God, It's uh, it's really quite remarkable. 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:25.960 I mean, when we last talked about Alex Jones on 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.640 my show. He'd just been kicked off of Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.360 pretty much everything. Our episode three Partner ended with him 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.040 in a donkey mask shouting about the one point three 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.320 billion Islama strain and Satanism waiting get the border of 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:43.880 the country. Yeah. Yeah that night for they were there 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:48.440 and then suddenly they weren't very quickly surprised. Yeah they really. 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.640 Uh that was that was an impressive movement of one 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:55.719 point three billion people. Um with numbers is one of 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.920 the themes you're going to find if you ever look 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:02.440 too deeply into Alex doesn't under and math, language or numbers. 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:08.280 Those are fundamental problems. Great at shouting though, Really, if 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:10.200 there's one thing I can look up to the man 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.640 for as a shouter myself, he can really shout the 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.120 ship out of things. Yeah, one of the best. And uh, 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.040 that day, the day that I finished writing the script, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.080 I think Info Wars made an announcement that they were 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:26.440 launching Uh info Wars, yes, which is Alex framed as 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.840 an incredible opportunity for his listeners and Wars Yeah. Uh, 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:35.760 he's selling you economic freedom. I don't know why you 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.880 don't want to be a small business owner. I don't 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.000 know why, I don't know you're at this. It's a 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:45.120 it's a proven system. Well yeah, info Wars Yes, since 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.719 our listeners probably don't pay much attention to Alex Jones 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.480 is essentially he's he's getting rid of info Wars Life, 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:53.440 it seems, his supplement line and replacing it with another 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:58.440 line of supplements sold by a company named Janesse Uh 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.840 not the Jenette that that Keith Ranieri, the guy who 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.479 started that nextium called that branded Women did, but a 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:10.200 different spelling of essentially the same pronunciation to make the 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.279 same result at the end of the day. Yeah, they're 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:16.040 both MLMs. They're they're both multi level marketing companies level 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.400 marketing company. He's gonna get branded at the end of it. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:21.680 I'll tell you that right now. Well, I looked into 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.480 Jenness a little bit because you know, Alex claimed that 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.720 number one, their supplements were better than the supplements he 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.840 had been selling, which is uh, pretty interesting for Alex 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.320 to do. It's a strange business plan for him to 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.840 come out and insult his own line in favor of 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:39.680 this new line that he's bringing in. If he expects 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:44.320 to ever sell his old line ever again. That's very strange, 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:46.440 and I guess we'll get to that in a little bit, 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.920 but it does seem like this is almost the in 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.120 game of Info Wars. Maybe that's wishful thinking on my part, 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.080 but it looks like he's trying to basically cash in 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.320 on the audience that he has as fast as he can. 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:02.320 Because Janness is not a nice company. Um. I did 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.120 a little bit of digging into them. You did someone 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.560 on your show too, and it definitely shows the majority 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:09.600 of people, like with every MLM, don't make any money 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.800 or lose money on the business. I did go to 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:15.680 their website because I wanted to know how Jenness presents themselves. 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.600 Their mission statement is the Jenness Family creates positive impact 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:21.560 in the world by helping people look and feel young 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:25.320 while empowering each other to unleash our potential, which is 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.440 about as vague as you're going to find on anything, 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.440 doesn't I am sold, sir, you wanna be you wanna 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.840 unleash your potential to feel you? Yeah, I've always I've 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.400 always wondered why I haven't been unleashing my potential, And 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.320 it turns out Jenness has a way to go about it. 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.280 I assume I'm gonna get branded in a sex call 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.520 it here shortly right that and you're gonna get a 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.160 microbiotics skin mask. Now that sounds that's a double way 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:52.200 of funds back so well. And when you're branding yourself, 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:56.680 you really want the patented Jenness stem cell skin rejuvenation 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:02.600 uh tonic, Yeah, which is actually a thing they um, 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.440 this is actually branding yourself. Kind of works both ways 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:11.840 as a double meaning. Yeah, alright, yeah, we will talk 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.800 about the branding a little bit, because Jones made some 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.440 really interesting choices and had a brand info wars. Yes, 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:17.840 but I want to stay in Janess for just a 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.559 little bit longer. So I looked into the company's bio 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.760 and it says that it began in the hearts and 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.880 minds of visionaries Randy Ray and Wendy Lewis, having achieved 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.200 tremendous success and other enterprises. Basically, they created Jenness in 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.600 two thousand nine on September nine, nine at nine pm. 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:37.600 Because the number nine represents longevity for reasons that are 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:42.079 unclear to me, uh into supreme mathematics here, it does 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:47.320 seem like about this. I'm not a numerologer, but it 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:50.160 does seem that any number higher than nine would better 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:54.240 represent longevity than the number nine. I don't know. It's 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.120 the largest single digit number that makes perfect Okay, okay, 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.840 okayte it down on the board. Let's keep on. So 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.959 Mr Ray and Ms lewis because you know, they claimed 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.160 to have achieved tremendous success in other enterprises. So I 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.000 looked into what those other enterprises were. And they got 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.880 their start with Fuel Freedom International, which was an MLM 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.040 that sold pills you put in your car's gas tank 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.400 to give it better mileag Wait, hold on, ye say 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.800 that one more time? They started what fuel Freedom International 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.160 and MLM that sells pills that you put in your 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.040 car to give it better gas mileage. Look, you take 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.480 aspir in. Your car needs aspir and everybody knows that 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.480 makes perfect sense. What are you gonna do if you're 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.680 not drugg in your car? Just leaving money on the 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:41.680 table with a sober car testing your car? Um, your honor, 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:45.440 My car was drunk. Come on, it was drunk so 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:52.000 it would drive further. Uh So the claim that fuel 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.679 Freedom made was that the their car pill technology was 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.440 invented by NASA in the nineteen seventies, although there's zero 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.920 evidence for this claim. There's also zero evidence that the 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.400 magical car pills ever worked and people did try to 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.080 study that, so again it seems like they were just 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.400 selling nonsense magic for your gas tank. Now, in two 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.520 thousand nine, Mr Ray and Miss Lewis got together with 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.440 a Beverly Hills doctor to make an anti aging face 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:16.480 cream made out of stem cells, and if since then 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:19.360 cashed in very successfully on people's fears of getting old. 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:24.320 The weirdest sequel to Beverly Hills Cop Beverly Hills Doctor, 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.680 stem cell doctor. You know you give John d. Reinhold 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:30.719 his own franchise, and you know you're going to run 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.440 into trouble. You know, it says a lot about you 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.880 that you picked Beverly Hills Cop as the Beverly Hills 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:36.880 movie to call this a sequel to, and not Beverly 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.360 Hills Ninja, the Chris Farley classic. Do you mean the 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.480 greatest movie ever made? Come on, I was going to 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:51.440 go with Hills shows where my mind is that? So 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.680 Janess's business did grow wildly over the mid Oughts and 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:57.160 made hundreds of millions of dollars. Like in thinking two 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.200 thirteen or fourteen, they were showing like a four growth 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.199 rate year over year, but it seems to have tapered 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:06.360 off recently, in part due to the fact that they 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.000 are super shady. So I did some reading within the 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.840 m l M community to just to try to see 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.600 how this company was looked at by people who are 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.160 into multi level marketing, and I found a site called 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.320 behind m l M and they one of the things 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.480 they note is that Jenness has a history of quote 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:25.440 cutting secret backroom deals with high profile affiliates, which means 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.080 that they basically go after people with big audiences and 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.640 pay them thousands of dollars in order to get access 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.120 to their audience, which seems to be exactly what's going 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.760 on with Alex Jones right now. It's the scientology business model, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.560 I believe. Yeah, find someone famous and then their fans 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.760 will pay you money exactly, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So behind 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.920 m LM talks about one other personality that Jinnest sort 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.480 of poached from a different MLM and they paid him 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.720 fifteen thousand dollars a month in order to generate tens 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.720 of thousands of leads. And I think Alex Jones, even 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.520 after the cut down in his traffic, still is something 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:02.280 like seven hundred thousand unique views on like a monthly 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:06.400 basis to info Wars. So he it's possible he's getting 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.319 a lot more than fifteen grand a month, since she 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.440 seems to have the ability to drive a little bit 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.200 more traffic. But it also seems unlikely that he's getting 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.880 a whole lot more than that. And I know that. 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:19.040 In that there's a two hour interview Jones did drunk 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:25.520 with another David Patrick Patrick Bet David the surprisingly good 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:30.720 interviewer slash marketing con man. We we were listening to 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.200 that video just going like, what the ship? How is 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.720 this the best interview that Alex? The best interview for 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:41.880 Alex was, was this guy actually pushing back just like Alex? Alex? Yeah, 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.800 really you considered that maybe some of this is your fault. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.640 Really held his feet to the fire on something I know. Yeah, shock. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:53.720 And in that interview, Jones claimed that he lost about 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.079 ten million dollars in ad deals in the first month 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.160 of Trump's presidency. I will tell you that that number 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.680 is slightly eer than what he cited at the time. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.160 But he is he has a habit of, like I said, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.480 he's bad with numbers. But he also mythologizes himself quite 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.200 a bit, so by this point, him expanding it to 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.079 ten million dollars makes a whole lot of sense. But 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:13.760 I think it was only like a couple of million 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.520 back then. I think he's at least multiplied it by 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:18.680 a few I feel like that's every time he cites 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:21.880 a number, When he cites that same thing, in the future, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:25.680 he'll double or so the number like at least increase. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.040 And you know that's cumulative over time, So I'm sure 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.800 he'll be thirty or forty million down. You know, in 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.079 a year from now, you might actually be forty million 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.520 do well, yeah, from now. So that is what I 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.960 want to get into, because um, yeah. The New York 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.640 Times noted and this was like a September fourteenth report 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.760 that uh in fo war has had a daily average 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.400 about one point four million visits to its website before 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:51.040 the August six bands, and that by September mid September, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.080 they were down by about half. So it seems like 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:55.560 the bands cut their traffic in half, which is obviously 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.920 going to cut his revenue in half. And while I 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.280 doubt he lost ten million dollars in a month, it 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.040 seems pretty probable that he did lose a lot of 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.600 money as a result of his his increased visibility and 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.720 and the d platforming and whatnot. So I always find 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.640 it interesting when he lies about something that he absolutely 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:16.480 doesn't need to lie about, like two million dollars. If 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.520 you lost two million dollars in a month, that's still 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.400 a ship ton of money. But he has to say, oh, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:26.160 it's ten million dollars. Like why, it's like fish stories man, 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.800 you know, like still a big fish. Yeah. Yet yeah, 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:32.440 it's like it's like, I mean, it's He also has 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.480 to kind of lie about his influence, even though there's 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.200 plenty of things he has to legitimately claim, like that 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.440 he's influenced. I don't know. He does seem to have 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.400 like some sort of allergic prohibition against telling the truth. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.400 It's it's kind of weird. Um, but yeah, nobody would 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.360 ever elect a guy like that president. I'll tell you that. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.000 You know, he would never get further than having a 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:58.160 weird show on the radio. Uh So, anyway, that like, 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:02.720 it's it definitely seems likely that this partnership with Janesse 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.120 came out of a severe cash crunch for Jones. Like 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:07.880 that's the picture I'm getting as I look at this, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:09.960 because we know as and revenues down. We know, it 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:12.520 seemed like if he's willing to give up in full 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:17.200 Wars Life, it means those sales have probably fallen significantly. Well, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.120 I I think that you're you're thinking is probably pretty 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.080 correct on that. But my my theory is that Info 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.000 Wars Life was all done through his weird doctor friend 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.880 who's actually a chiropractor Doctor Group. Yeah, Dr It's it's 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.760 all done through the global Healing center that Doctor Group runs. 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.280 He has all his products and then Alex makes a 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.000 different name for them and sells them on Info Wars Life. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:42.920 And my theory is basically, once Alex got kicked off 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.600 of everything, Dr Group realized there's nothing in this for 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:48.960 me anymore, so he wanted to stop his dual branding 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.440 with Alex. So Alex probably didn't have as much of 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:54.600 a choice as it appears with Info Wars Life going away, 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.920 because now he can't private label all this like super 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:02.600 Male Vitality and Throplex all of his interesting because I 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:08.400 noticed uh decrease in appearances by Doctor Group, especially in 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.680 the last like nine months or so, whereas he used 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:16.360 to come on and do infomercials fairly regularly. Um so 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.320 I mean that seems really consistent though, with Alex Jones's character, 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.720 because if dr Group has pulled away from Jones and isn't, 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.520 you know, willing to work with him in the same 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.840 extent that he used to be, it would make sense 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:30.720 that Jones is calling those supplements not as good as 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:32.360 the ones like that he would be willing to throw 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.640 not just Group, but the products under the bus, because 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.000 that's very mentioned Jones's character. It fits the pettiness that 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.520 we've we've seen for a long time, and Alex Is 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.880 jumping from thing to thing is pretty consistent throughout his career. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.920 Like you, he used to be basically a gold salesman 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:53.400 for Midas Resources. Ted Anderson runs this gold company called 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:58.400 Midas Resources that also owned Genesis Communications Network that would 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:04.280 distribute Alex's show. In September of Ted lost his gold license. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:10.520 So for totally non criminal reasons. I don't know why 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.520 that would be the first place your head jumped to. 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.960 A guy just lost his gold bullion sales license. That's 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.440 just normal ship that happens. He forgot to re up 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:20.840 with the government. Come on, Jordan is not correct on 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.800 that there were some shady dealings being done by so 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.479 he wasn't allowed to sell gold anymore. He and so 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.639 he ended up becoming actually he sells like bulk beef 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.680 now and it's a very mightas resources, a very strange 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:38.040 place into now I've always called beef red gold. I 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:42.239 mean that's yeah, it's the gold of your stomach. So 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:48.360 when when Ted lost his gold bullyon license, Alex immediately 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.240 almost like two weeks after that, I believe did a 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.720 money bomb and it was just sort of out of nowhere. Also, 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:56.520 right around the end of the fiscal year when you 0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:59.680 got to get your taxes together. Uh so he there's 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.359 that influence. And a little bit after that is when 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.880 a lot of the the supplement sales went into overdrive. 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.480 Though he had already started that end of the business 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.399 a year prior, it wasn't pushed nearly as hard as 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:19.000 it was after and onwards. So I've noticed a weird 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.720 trend of him like sort of leap frogging from cash 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.920 cows kind of yeah, yeah, yeah, And I gotta say 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:29.240 just to a little aside, but it's really one of 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.600 the things that's most frustrated to me about eighteen is 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.960 like I spent like I'm gonna guess you did as well. 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.120 A lot of my late teen years in early twenties 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.720 and like the weird conspiracy corners of the Internet. I 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.280 have fond memories of those days. And yeah, I have 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:47.520 really fond memories of using like weird libertarian gold e 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.919 currency to buy drugs off the internet from Canada. And 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.240 now that's all ruined because it's all turned into this 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:58.800 like right wing like this like funding machine for malicious basically, 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:02.040 like it's all it's just such a bummer, Like I 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.600 want to think back fondly about using the gold to 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:07.240 buy two c I, but it's just it's it's it's 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:11.040 been corrupted now by the nothing gold can last, as 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:16.640 nothing egold can stay. My my disappointment comes from losing 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:19.119 my favorite advertiser that he ever had, which was a 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.639 Diamond gust of jeans. Do you know diamonds. I have 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:26.560 heard Diamond Gussete jeans on y'all show the ads for them, 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.000 incredible songs. But my favorite part was when he was 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.960 doing research into Diamond Gusta jeans. He found all these 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.119 reviews and they were consistent in one thing, which is 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:40.439 that whatever pants eze you ordered, that would be the 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:44.440 only pant's eyes you did not receive. It was a 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:48.520 random pants generator and that makes me so happy for 0:19:48.640 --> 0:19:54.879 some like animalistic reason, I need to never know what 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:56.880 pants eye I'm gonna wear. You don't need to worry 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.879 about it because they're still a sponsor of the Genesis Communications. Now, 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:04.240 well then see there we go. That relationship business still around. 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:09.959 Everybody loves American jeans, timing, Goss, subscriptions all around. I'm 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.800 buying around for everybody who listens to the show. I 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.520 just I want to know where you have to be 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.080 in your life that you buy pants through the radio. 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.720 That's a patriot. That's where you have to be. Okay. Um, So, 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.320 driving us back to Janess just a little bit, it 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:29.560 does seem that there's some current desperation for steady monthly 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.199 income and Alex Jones, I like you. You point out, 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:34.960 he's leap frog from a lot of cash cows over 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.600 the years, but it seems like now one of the 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:39.439 things that's new is that he's willing to burn his 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:43.000 audience to get it. Because Janese is not a nice company. 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.159 Not that there are nice MLMs, but just this August 0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:48.200 they settled a two and a half million dollar class 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.040 action lawsuit, and the plaintiffs in that lawsuit alleged that 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.359 Janess was quote a misleading business opportunity disguised as a 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.880 legitimate way to make money, which seems like a reckless 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:58.720 thing for Jones to do with his audience, which is 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:02.360 already dwindled as a result of everything that's happened. The 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:06.919 problem with that description of Jana's to be in a 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:11.040 lawsuit is like, that's also a one way to describe capitalism, right, well, 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:16.320 that's leading way to It's one of those things like 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.080 at the basic level, like Okay, you work a job 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:20.879 and use the money you get to that job that 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.200 you're paid for your level to labor to buy goods 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.560 and services. There are complaints you can have about that 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.160 level of capitalism, which is different than like an MLM, 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:29.639 where it's like, no, you would buy a bunch of 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:31.920 products and the whole goal is to trick you into 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.240 thinking that this will make you rich, but you never 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.960 make a dime. There's scams and then there's scams on scams. Yeah. 0:21:38.040 --> 0:21:41.439 The thing I would think about your your characterization of 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:43.800 him being willing to like sort of take a risk 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.560 with his audience like this, I don't think that that's 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.800 out of character for him at all. Even on your 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.440 episodes and you were going over his supplements, you guys 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:53.639