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Speaker 1: Mmm, Hello Internet, I'm Robert Evans and this is once

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Speaker 1: again Behind the Bastards, the show where we tell you

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Speaker 1: everything you don't know about the very worst people in

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Speaker 1: all of history. And today we have a very special

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Speaker 1: episode for all of you. It's another episode on Alex Jones,

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Speaker 1: the epilogue of Alex Jones, you can call it. And

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Speaker 1: my guest today are the guys from Knowledge Fight Dan

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Speaker 1: and Jordan. How are y'all doing today? Are doing great?

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having us uh In case our listeners don't know,

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Speaker 1: Dan knows a lot about Alex Jones. Jordan's does not

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Speaker 1: know much about Alex Jones. But in reality, you both

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Speaker 1: know an enormous amount about Alex Jones because you've recorded

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Speaker 1: hundreds of podcasts episodes about him too. To my everlasting regret,

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Speaker 1: I started doing this podcast because I wanted to hang

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Speaker 1: out with my friend, and now I know too much

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Speaker 1: about this man. Yeah, yeah, influence y'all's podcast. Knowledge Fight

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Speaker 1: listeners can go to Knowledge Fight dot com if you

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Speaker 1: want to hear more about Alex Jones. They break down

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Speaker 1: his episodes. You guys are both doing them hondern stuff

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Speaker 1: and you go like back to two thousand eight nine, episodes.

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Speaker 1: Y'all's podcasts have become one of my favorite. I kind

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Speaker 1: of learned about it as I was finishing up the

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Speaker 1: first Alex Jones podcast. But I listen to you guys

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Speaker 1: two or three times a week. I was trying to

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Speaker 1: get caught up. I love your stuff, enjoy it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Well, yeah, we absolutely appreciate your

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Speaker 1: work as well. Well, let's let's get into this. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Alex Jones. Sure, i'd like

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Speaker 1: to open this video this alright, I'd like to open

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Speaker 1: this episode with special video I found of Alex Jones

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Speaker 1: on Inauguration Day, outrageously drunk and ranting about some sort

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Speaker 1: of bizarre future space program. Have you guys seen this one?

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Speaker 1: I I have horrific memories of Inauguration night, Election night.

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Speaker 1: That whole season was pretty bad. Time they're watching Alex Jones.

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Speaker 1: I forget when I came across this one, but it's

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Speaker 1: pretty remarkable. I like it because it showcases Alex Jones

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Speaker 1: as drunk as I think he's ever been. But that

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Speaker 1: may be optimistic on my part. I would say so

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Speaker 1: he's reached some dioling heights of intoxication. There are four

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Speaker 1: ways to learn, one of which is race memory. I

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Speaker 1: believe that's very, very druyful. Yeah. None, none of those

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Speaker 1: four ways to learn, by the way that he references

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Speaker 1: were reading research, any kind of physical look. Libraries are

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Speaker 1: where he goes to uh ship. Basically he's not He's

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Speaker 1: not there for the books. They have free coffee. All right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this video just to warm up the

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Speaker 1: waters for our listeners. Here, here's drunk Alex Jones's will

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Speaker 1: be created and a launch space program that Cyne Patty

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Speaker 1: The new Atlanta S will be created at a launch

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Speaker 1: space program, the Cyne Matty of the space A loss

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Speaker 1: now on hundreds and hundreds of star systems and galaxies.

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Speaker 1: They'll look back and say, these are the people that

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Speaker 1: They're they're white. Alex's world seems like a joke, but

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Speaker 1: remember that night correctly, that was he's stumbling around d

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Speaker 1: coming up doing like Alex Jones is like, how's it going,

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Speaker 1: But he's almost unconscious when he's talking to these people.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's a very weird dynamic he seems to

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Speaker 1: have with people. But I don't think anybody hates Alex

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Speaker 1: Jones listeners more than Alex Jones. He despises his his

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Speaker 1: fans so much. That actually gets us onto sort of

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Speaker 1: I mean, when we last talked about Alex Jones on

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Speaker 1: for as a shouter myself, he can really shout the

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Speaker 1: I think Info Wars made an announcement that they were

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Speaker 1: it's a proven system. Well yeah, info Wars Yes, since

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Speaker 1: is essentially he's he's getting rid of info Wars Life,

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Speaker 1: it seems, his supplement line and replacing it with another

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Speaker 1: not the Jenette that that Keith Ranieri, the guy who

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Speaker 1: both MLMs. They're they're both multi level marketing companies level

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Speaker 1: Jenness a little bit because you know, Alex claimed that

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Speaker 1: Because Janness is not a nice company. Um. I did

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Speaker 1: Their mission statement is the Jenness Family creates positive impact

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Speaker 1: while empowering each other to unleash our potential, which is

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Speaker 1: about as vague as you're going to find on anything,

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Speaker 1: doesn't I am sold, sir, you wanna be you wanna

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Speaker 1: unleash your potential to feel you? Yeah, I've always I've

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Speaker 1: microbiotics skin mask. Now that sounds that's a double way

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Speaker 1: tremendous success and other enterprises. Basically, they created Jenness in

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine on September nine, nine at nine pm.

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Speaker 1: their start with Fuel Freedom International, which was an MLM

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Speaker 1: Janess's business did grow wildly over the mid Oughts and

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Speaker 1: made hundreds of millions of dollars. Like in thinking two

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Speaker 1: they note is that Jenness has a history of quote

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Speaker 1: cutting secret backroom deals with high profile affiliates, which means

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Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, find someone famous and then their fans

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Speaker 1: get into how Alex has chosen to brand info Wars Yes,

429
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: because it's really interesting to me. Are you talking about

430
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: the weird red lettering? Very it seems very off off

431
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: style for him. It all seems off style to him. Um, Like,

432
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, like infu Wars Life products used terms like

433
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: shield force defense and it was all very militarized. It

434
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: looked almost like like most of the products on Info

435
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: Wars Life looked like something you might pick up in

436
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: like a first person shooter video game as a power

437
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: are up. Like, yeah, infull Wars Yes looks like it's

438
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: aimed at like middle aged housewives. Uh, not that that's

439
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: a bad thing. But like the picture of Alex Jones

440
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: in the Info Wars Yes banner ad that I sent

441
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: you guys, he's clean shaven, it looks like it was

442
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: taken about fifteen years ago, and the color tone is

443
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: like a really light, calming blue um and it's it's

444
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: not at all. Yeah, he's safe and healthy and young.

445
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: Well you went with info Wars Yes because Info Wars

446
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: tupper wear was actually already taken. Did you guys know

447
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: that info Wars Yes is a is an acronym. Yeah,

448
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: it's like Youth Enhancement System nailed it. How do you know?

449
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 1: I know a lot of things you only know a

450
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: little bit. So the youth Enhancement System is the centerpiece

451
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,239
Speaker 1: of what Jeness claims to offer Alex's fans. And so

452
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of different products that you're supposed to

453
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: take for all of the different ways that you can

454
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 1: get younger if you take the drugs Alex Jones wants

455
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: to sell you from this company. And the most striking

456
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: product that I found is the Finity pills, which you'll

457
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: die sometime, it seems, yeah, like the pictures on the

458
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: pills are like young couples. They're doing everything they can

459
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: the branding to make it look like this will make

460
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: you live longer without actually lying and say that this

461
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: will extend your life, because then the FDA will get

462
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: on their asses. There's there's laws about certain claims, but

463
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: you can call a thing finity, infinity and nowhere else.

464
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess by the spelling that the only reason

465
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: they didn't go with infinity is that that would have

466
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: been like infringing on the cars. Coyright. He also has

467
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: a brand of cars named Paula. Yeah, he stops there,

468
00:25:54,880 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: the Paulas, and don't forget his undies. So I looked

469
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: into the ingredients of the Finity pills because it seems

470
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: to be the centerpiece of the strange life youth enhancement

471
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: systems Alex Jones is trying to sell. Includes astrologous root extract,

472
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: which is supposed to be good for your immune system

473
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: and particularly famous for your heart. It's like a Chinese

474
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: medicinal herb, but there are quote no high quality studies

475
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: in people, so there's no evidence of any health benefits.

476
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: It costs about two dollars and seventy five cents an ounce.

477
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: There's co enzyme Q ten, which costs about twenty dollars

478
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: for sixty pills. There's quite an extract which is seaweed extract,

479
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: a little less than twenty bucks for sixty pills. There's

480
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: Potero pure, which is an antioxidant found in blueberries, which

481
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: is slightly cheaper than those other two pills. And then

482
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: you know like tumeric and a number of other very

483
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: very inexpensive herbs. You guys want to guess the total

484
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: price for sixty capsules of affinity? How much does a

485
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: house cost? We are all millennials. None of us know

486
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna put it just south of that. It

487
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: is a hundred for sixty capsules. Uh Now, now you're

488
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: supposed to take to a day, so that is basically

489
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: more than an average cell phone bill in order to

490
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: get one set of the medications that they recommend you

491
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: take with the the YES program. So that's fun. Phone

492
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: doesn't make you young, doesn't know, It just gives you

493
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: head cancer. So throw your phone away by finity. Um, Now,

494
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: Phone doesn't make you young is my favorite song from

495
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: the Seven Days? Do you remember that one? When it

496
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: swept the swept of the charts. I should note for

497
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: fairness that if you're a distributor, it's only a hundred

498
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: and eight dollars a bottle, so it's a steel So

499
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 1: that seems to be the angle Jones is going for here.

500
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: And I do have a little bit of a conspiracy

501
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: when it comes to the marketing of info Wars Yes, because,

502
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: as I noted before, in all of the pictures of

503
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: Alex on the info Wars Yes site, he looks like

504
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: about ten to fifteen years younger than he is. He's

505
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: also clean shaven and in really trim, So I did

506
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: a picture has been heavily airbrushed or they just picked

507
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: a younger picture of Alex Jones or both or both

508
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: or both, yeah, And I think this is done in

509
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: order to create the illusion that Jones has wrinkled and

510
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: careworn face has been d aged by Janess's remarkable products.

511
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: And if that is the angle that they were going for,

512
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: I have to imagine that Janess was not happy to

513
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: see Alex Jones give a two hour interview to an

514
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: MLM salesman named Patrick bet David. Because in that video

515
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: I included just a random screen grab from it that

516
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: will also have up on the site. Alex Jones looks

517
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: like he has aged about twenty years in the last

518
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: six months. Like, oh yeah, I don't like to critique

519
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: people's appearance, but I believe on our show, I said

520
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: he looked like trash, like he was slouched over and

521
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: clearly drunk. It was a mess. He looks like a

522
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: middle aged man who has been drinking way too much.

523
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Uh well, it looks like that that cartoon version of

524
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: a hobo on the side of the street who's he's

525
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: a pink elephant walked by and then looks at his

526
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: brown paper bag and like throws it in the garbage,

527
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: like his giant red nose is incredible. Never throw away

528
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: that bottle. And I will say one of the things

529
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: that makes me he's the best way to describe him

530
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: is if that cartoon hobo saw all these pink elephants

531
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: is like hell yeah, and just kept drinking out of

532
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: that brown I love me an elephant. Yeah, big elephants.

533
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: One of the things that concerns me a little bit

534
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: is that, you know, if you remember that wonderful forest

535
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: bathing video Alex Jones did shirtless out in the out

536
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: in the woods, he looks for a guy in his forties,

537
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: relatively fit in that video. He's certainly not massively overweight

538
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: or anything like that. He doesn't look unhealthy. He looks

539
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: like he has aged way more than two years in

540
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: the time since that video was taken. Um. You know,

541
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: you know how there are some people in the world who, like,

542
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: you get him at the right angle and they kind

543
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: of look great. You look at him a different angle,

544
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: it's kind of oh boy. Yeah. I think Alex is

545
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: very much like that. Like, he has the kind of

546
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: stocky body that if he sort of pulls it in

547
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,239
Speaker 1: a little bit, he doesn't look like if he has

548
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: good posture and is trying to present himself, he looks

549
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: bad but not terrible. But then if he's drunk talking

550
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: to Patrick bat David, he looks like like like a hobo. Yeah, yeah,

551
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: and he does look like a hobo. One of the

552
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: things I noticed in that interview is that he claimed

553
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: repeatedly that they've never had more hardcore listeners than they

554
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: do right now after the purchase, And that interview was

555
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: posted the day after The New York Times posted that

556
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: article about how their traffics fallen by more than half,

557
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: which is there's just a fun little side side known here.

558
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: I do think probably the most interesting thing to me,

559
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: because like, obviously the thing that got the most coverage

560
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: in that video was Alex saying he was ready to

561
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: die repeatedly. I'm ready, I'm ready to die. I'm ready.

562
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: And if my kids get, if my kids get, they're

563
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: gonna kill my kids. I think. Anyways, I'm I'm a

564
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: positive guy. What what were we talking about? Major major

565
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: league marketing? Is that what we're doing? I don't know.

566
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: I will note that there is one moment in that

567
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: whole interview where Alex seems to react with genuine horror

568
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: and empathy, and it's when Patrick Beck David talks about

569
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: the time that he lost his voice for ninety days

570
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: and Alex's like, Alex's response is very genuine, and he

571
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: seems horrified by the thought of not being able to talk, which, well, yes,

572
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: but if you recalled, he was drunk drunk. As Patrick

573
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: is telling that story, Alex takes a big bite out

574
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: of an apple and says life is very fragile with

575
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: a mouthful of apple, and we're going then it's kind

576
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: of for me when I look at somebody like you,

577
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: I lost my voice for ninety days four years ago, okay,

578
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: and if you're running a business, then you're selling you

579
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: speaking all the time. I mean, that's not good. They

580
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: thought it was a cancer at to go. It was benign.

581
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: They did a surgery. I lost my voice Thanksgiving. I

582
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: couldn't talk for ninety days. Voice was gone. I can

583
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: speak at all, And so for me, it's a genuine

584
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: rate for me to sit back and rize. You know,

585
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: the smallest little thing is a big part of your life.

586
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: So I felt like, if I can't speak right, I

587
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: can't speak, what do I do today? Five billions were

588
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: a lot of wisdom there, Alex. It's the perfect intersection

589
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: of being rude and empathic at the same time. It's

590
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: just those are, oh my god, that's awful. That's something

591
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: happened to somebody who's not me. Anyways, This apple is delicious.

592
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: So there is a point in that interview where Alex

593
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: gives I think what I think is a really insightful

594
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: and accurate answer to a question. I don't think he

595
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: means to. I think it's just part of his spield,

596
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: but I think it's one of those It's like how

597
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: he accidentally proticted nine eleven because he just has been

598
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: predicting disaster every day for the last twelve years. There's

599
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: a moment where Patrick bet David asks him why the

600
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: globalists just haven't had him it yet if he's such

601
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 1: a threat to their schemes, and Alex notes, because they

602
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: thought I was a joke, like a poison. I titrated

603
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: and it's the way God works, It isn't me And

604
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: I do think that's why none of the people politically

605
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: who were harmed in a serious way by the influence

606
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: that Jones has gathered took him seriously until after the

607
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election, because we all just thought he was silly. Yeah,

608
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree with his assessment pretty fully. But

609
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's interesting to like, until very recently,

610
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: his answer to why isn't he dead yet was that

611
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: he's too popular to kill. Yeah, so like, it's interesting

612
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: that he's even shifted that to a more introspective, actual

613
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: searching answer than just like I would be too much

614
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: of a problem. Yeah, it's like, no, no, I was insidious.

615
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: I I flew under the radar as a goofy clown. Um.

616
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: It's it's also really interesting to me how his go

617
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: to description of himself is as a poison. That's just

618
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: kind of fun, uh, especially for someone lead lead based pills. Um. So, now,

619
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: I just listened to y'all's latest episode of Knowledge Fight

620
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: where you covered episode and you revealed that Alex has

621
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: There's so many new schemes coming out of Alex Jones

622
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: that it's hard to to keep track of them. Also,

623
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad I listened to this one before this episode

624
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: because he is now getting into the meme making business,

625
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: which is the machine. It's really it seems like he's

626
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: trying to brand himself as the new site of four

627
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: Chance poll Board because like one of the things that

628
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: I saw the last time I visited info Wars, if

629
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: you're paying attention to the dark, gross right wing corners

630
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: of the Internet, there's a meme. The NPC meme has

631
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 1: has gone viral recently, which is basically, everyone who isn't

632
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: a really far right wing ship poster is is an

633
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: inhuman thing incapable of independent thought. Uh, and so we

634
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: described them as a non player character. There were like

635
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: five or six different articles on info Wars that all

636
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: included the term NPC when I visited last That's is

637
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: this meme is going to change the world. It's big stuff.

638
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: But did you get one? Did anyone do that to

639
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: you anyone? I have not yet? No, no, no, no.

640
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: I know that Jared Holt got the MPC treatment. Great. Yeah,

641
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Speaker 1: I remember him posting something about that and I thought, like,

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Speaker 1: all right, he seems to be taking that in stride. No,

643
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: I've gotten a number of like I was doing reporting

644
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: on a four chance poll board back and in two

645
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: thou sixteen. I got a number of death threats back then,

646
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: but I haven't gotten I don't know. Maybe I have

647
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: got an MPC. Mean, nobody shared it with me on

648
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: Twitter and I rarely go to pole directly. Um yeah, Mark, Yeah,

649
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: but uh, it is interesting, like he's he's announced that

650
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: he's starting a whole new section of the site that's

651
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: going to be focused around memes. And he just announced

652
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: just me, just memes, because that's what it's what defeats

653
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: the globalists. They don't they want you to use emojis.

654
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: They want you to use emoji when and that is

655
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: what the globalists have always wanted, that that ship emoji

656
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: that's nowhere near as good as the ship meme. So

657
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: he explained the emoji thing because I didn't even catch

658
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: that on this is that what he's saying, well, Robert, ye,

659
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: what you need to understand is that the Fabian socialists, uh,

660
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: they are still actively involved in manipulating the world, and

661
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: they want all of us to use emojis because they

662
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: restrict language, because that smiley face can only mean a

663
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: smiley face. It just means you're smiling, whereas memes can

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Speaker 1: mean anything. They have if there's creativity within me, I

665
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: don't know. That's basically what he's trying to say. But

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I believe it. I

667
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: know I don't believe it. But yeah, that's his angle

668
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: he's trying to make. I think it's very thin. And

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00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: also I should say this, there's no way that part

670
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: of the website is ever going to get made. That

671
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: was Alex talking ship. That's not going to happen. Do

672
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Speaker 1: you think there's gonna be a ten thousand dollar cause

673
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: he announced a ten thousand dollar prize that he was

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Speaker 1: personally going to give to the best meme. Has announced

675
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 1: so many multi thousand dollar prizes, no one I think

676
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Speaker 1: has ever collected on any one of those. There was

677
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: that that whenever Kathy Griffin made that distasteful picture with

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00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: Trump's head distasteful and heavy scare quotes. Yeah, Alex had

679
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: Mike Sernovich on and they were going to start a

680
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: contest where they were trying to get people to get

681
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: homeless people to walk around with CNN is isis shirts

682
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: and somehow they would reward people for getting homeless people

683
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: to be walking billboards. That plan was to get homeless

684
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: people to do it. Yeah, what kind of nonsense plan

685
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: is that it was? It was pretty gross. It was

686
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: pretty gross to hear. But we're gonna kill two birds

687
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 1: with one stone. We're gonna clothe the homeless and we're

688
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: gonna take Hillary down. That makes perfect sense. That literally

689
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: was their angle. Yeah, And so they do this all

690
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: the time. They come up with these weird ruses and

691
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: media stunts, and almost never are they followed through with,

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Speaker 1: except for the bill Clinton is a rapist one. That's

693
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: the that's the only one that really people followed through with,

694
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Speaker 1: And apparently Alex did pay people for that. So I

695
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: do want to ask you, uh Jordan, in particular, like

696
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: one of the things you all have been doing on

697
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: your show that I think is really interesting is trying

698
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: to trace back the origins of like nowadays pretty much

699
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: constantly Alex Jones mentions George Soros, he's like the big

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Speaker 1: boogeyman on Info Wars, and that has not always been

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Speaker 1: the case. Uh, And I think you'll you'll documented it

702
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: somewhere around two thousand nine, two doesn't ten is when

703
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: he first started talking about Soros. But even then he

704
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: was mentioning that the guy was really low on the

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Speaker 1: totem pole. The first time that we've I mean, obviously

706
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: he's been doing the show for whatever amount of years. Yeah,

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00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: but the first time that we've heard of Soros, because

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Speaker 1: Dan has been conducting a an insanely thorough investigation of

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine, which the ostensible point is to figure

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Speaker 1: out when he joins up with the tea party. And

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00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: we're three months past when the tea party started, and

712
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: we've all all we've heard is nonsense. So we finally

713
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: hear from one of his callers, I believe, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you hear about that Soros cat, and Alex is like, yeah,

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00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: Soros is bad, moving on and never speaking of this again.

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00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: That was it. And then later on in he's claiming

717
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Speaker 1: that he's known about Sorrows since the eighties, when PBS

718
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: used to run a week long documentary series about how

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Speaker 1: Soros is the most evil human being that there's ever been. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: his story has changed considerably. Yeah in two thousand nine.

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Speaker 1: The best I can tell, at least at the point

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Speaker 1: that that we've been looking into it. The only thing

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Speaker 1: that he ever has mentioned Soros about is there is

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Speaker 1: a clip that came out of George Soros talking at

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Speaker 1: the Davos meeting, and he mentioned the ramifications of the

726
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Speaker 1: dropping price of oil that we experienced back then, and

727
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Speaker 1: he was talking about how one of the after effects

728
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Speaker 1: are going to see is that a lot of the

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Speaker 1: countries that support rogue activity around the globe that are

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Speaker 1: funded by oil enter ASTs and names in the number

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Speaker 1: of countries and notably points out Russia as being one

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Speaker 1: of them. Those countries have limited resources to use because

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Speaker 1: they're not making as much as they used to after

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00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: the oil price has gone down, and Alex says, George

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Speaker 1: Soros is admitting that he crashed oil in order to

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Speaker 1: punish these countries, which doesn't reflect the clip at all.

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't really talk much about it at all.

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Speaker 1: It's just sort of like a little piece he throws

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Speaker 1: in and then doesn't mention him at all, and then

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Speaker 1: we flashed forward to November when Glenn Beck did his uh,

741
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Speaker 1: his disgraceful George Soros puppet master report on Fox News,

742
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Speaker 1: and what we found was Alex's response was, this is laughable.

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Speaker 1: You think George Soros is a big deal. He's middle management. Basically,

744
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: he's like, he doesn't matter. George Soros doesn't make decisions.

745
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: He's he's a hanger on with the globalists. And so

746
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: to short version, I guess is we don't really know

747
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: at this point exactly when he starts turning him into

748
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: the demonic head of his enemy team. But it definitely

749
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: has not been consistent. See, and that's really because in

750
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Speaker 1: the in that old stuff, like one of the things

751
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: I know he mentioned when he was talking about Soroce

752
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: is that he was part of the left wing of

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00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: the buzzard or whatever that is, the globalist conspiracy to

754
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: destroy all freedom and whatnot. And that's the most interesting

755
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: thing to me about Alex's evolution over time is how

756
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: he went from this guy who was like the left

757
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: and the right are both equally full of ship, and

758
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: they're they're both equally bad and part of this giant conspiracy.

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00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: And you know, the real important thing is, you know,

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Speaker 1: freeing yourself from the New World Order, and he has

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00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: completely gotten off that train now it seems like like

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00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: he's not. I mean, I guess he probably still does

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00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: use the New World Order phrasing, but he's become a

764
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: completely partisan creature now, which is almost like kind of

765
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: a heartbreaking journey for him, because it appears to be heartbreaking.

766
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: But I think that the reality is that one thing

767
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: that we didn't expect when we started looking back through

768
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: time is that if you look at what what's motivating him,

769
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: even behind the right left paradigm being an illusion and

770
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: stuff like that, is that, like the reason that they're

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00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: both bad is that they both want to infringe on whiteness.

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Speaker 1: There is a consistent white identity defensiveness that characterizes Alex

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00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: throughout all of his career that I'm able to to

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00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: look into. And so my feeling on him formerly being

775
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: like the right and the left both suck and now

776
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: him being super conservative is more a reflection of how

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00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: far the right has gone down towards what he's into,

778
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: which is defending guns vociferously and being super into straight,

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00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: white male Christian identity. So I think I think that

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00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: he was waiting for a team to emerge that he

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00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: could be a part of. And there wasn't a team.

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00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: There was just basically Ron Paul that was someone he

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00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: could be like, that guy is good. No, before we

784
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: started doing this this oh the you know, all I

785
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: knew about Alex Jones was essentially like, hey, here's this

786
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 1: crazy guy who spouts conspiracy theories on on the radio.

787
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: And as we keep going back through different eras of

788
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: this time, the only thing that's consistent is white supremacy.

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00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: So whenever he's going back and saying like, oh I

790
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: hate George W. Bush, it's not about the rights policies

791
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: in any way. It's about George W. Bush outwardly saying

792
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: like maybe we should still make an inclusive world even

793
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: though he's not acting it. But now that somebody is

794
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: out and out saying like, have you considered that being

795
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: Nazi is great? He's like, yes, I have considered that,

796
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: and I agree that actually makes him make a lot

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00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: more sense. And I want to, uh, I wanna. I

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Speaker 1: want to move into I know you guys have some

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00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: clips that you have you have curated, and I'm excited

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00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: to talk about those. But before we treat our listeners

801
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: to some more of the best of Alex Jones. Uh,

802
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: it's time to treat them to the best of some ads. Okay,

803
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: we're back. We're talking about Alex Jones, and Dan and

804
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: Jordan have been doing this for years. You listen to

805
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: hundreds of episodes of Alex Jones, and you've come across

806
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: some pretty objectively insane things that a casual Jones researcher

807
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: like myself could never have hoped to find. So I'm

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00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: just going to hand things over to you. So why

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00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: don't you set up some of these clips for us

810
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: and explain what sort of bounty we have for our

811
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: listeners today. Certainly a crossover. But before I get into this,

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00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: I want to say I thought that your episodes are

813
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: really insightful and very on point um. But two things

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Speaker 1: I wanted to point out. We're one um. When you

815
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: mentioned the info Wards human resource director, it's worth noting

816
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: that that's Alex Jones's dad is their human resource director,

817
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: So that's one thing. He's very hands on. It's really nice.

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00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: It's a natural step from paying off the people that

819
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: beat up your son to not complain that he's bled

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Speaker 1: on their shirt to directing HR for his company. H C.

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Speaker 1: I a dentist info wars HR. That makes perfect sense.

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00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: It also implies he might be a little bit biased

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00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,959
Speaker 1: about harassment complaints when it's my employee and my son

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00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: who is being complained about. And then the second thing

825
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: was I believe in the first episode came up that

826
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: Alex might be a DJ UM and this is a

827
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: big misunderstanding. His cousin, Buckley is a DJ and the

828
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 1: most important piece of information anyone needs to know about

829
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Speaker 1: info wars. Buckley surprisingly not a terrible DJ. He's terrible, terrible.

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Speaker 1: He has a SoundCloud it's Buckley Hammond h A M

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Speaker 1: M A N and it banks It's pretty good. He's

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Speaker 1: he's pretty talented, but I'm sorry. He's also noted multiple

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00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: times on the sexual harassment UH complaints. Oh yeah, he

834
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: sounds like a horrible persons. Yeah, always goes though, so UM.

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Speaker 1: I guess the best place to start out would be UM.

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Speaker 1: One of the first things I wanted to learn about

837
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: was what the path from Alex being this weirdo conspiracy

838
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: guy to being Trump's propagandist. I wanted to experience what

839
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: that journey was like. So we went back and listened

840
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: from the day of that Trump announced his candidacy to

841
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: the point where he says it's Trump or die um

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00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: and we experienced that ride. But one of the things

843
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: that I never expected was when he announces his candidacy,

844
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Speaker 1: Alex doesn't give a ship. He doesn't care at all.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't even say anything about it on the day

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00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: he announces. But on July three, he finally starts talking

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00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: about Trump's candidacy, and he says this, you go and

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00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: you show it at the university, four or five palace

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Speaker 1: size houses, forty million million, you name it. You say,

850
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: is this Donald Trump's sure? Butody thinks he's a rich guy.

851
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: The guy's literally nothing, kind of just a front man

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Speaker 1: for some consortiums on the East Coast. I'll leave it

853
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: at that. Oh yeah, Trump's piece of work. Folks. Huh

854
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: they go in there. It's just mind blow. I don't

855
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: even know what to say anymore. So his initial position

856
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: on it is that Trump is he's mobbed up. He

857
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: starts talking, uh, yeah, absolutely. It seems like a rare

858
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: instance information a few times where it's like, oh yeah, no,

859
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 1: you fucking nailed it. Kind of course, four months later

860
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: he's like, Trump is the best guy that's ever said Yeah,

861
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: so you see him for a while being kind of

862
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: like dismissive of the entire candidacy. As Trump's rhetoric gets

863
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: more towards what he likes to see in terms of

864
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: being kind of cruel to uh, non white Christian straight Males'

865
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: is like, oh, this is interesting. And then as some

866
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: of these influencers Steve Pochanic, Roger Stone, Um, I believe

867
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: Eric Prince also though he never shows up on the show,

868
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: there's definitely indications Alex has made that he was one

869
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: of his sources. And I do want to drill into

870
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: that a little bit. The Eric Prince, Roger Stone, Alex

871
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: like how Alex Jones ties into the Goosafer stuff because

872
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: that's something I didn't get into at all because I

873
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: wasn't really I didn't really know much about it until

874
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: I listened to y'all talking about it. And that's can

875
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: you break that down from me? I can try. It's

876
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: gonna involve a little bit of conjecture because you kind

877
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: of have to put together the pieces of stray things

878
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: that people have said on Alex's show. Roger Stone and

879
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: Steve Pochenek, who is a former psy op expert for

880
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: the State Department, who is now a guy who's running

881
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: psy ops on Alex on his broadcast, Uh, the two

882
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: of them have multiple times on the show referenced something

883
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: that they call the Group or the forty five group,

884
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: and talk about how they got together and put plans

885
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: in motion in order to get Trump into office. I

886
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: don't know for sure, but it appears, based on the

887
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: rhetoric that Steve Pochenek has said on the show, that

888
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: Erik Prince may or may not be a part of

889
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: that group as well or in some way working with them,

890
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: Because one of the Alex's big things was this idea

891
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: of there was a soft coup going on within the

892
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: government against Hillary Clinton, and his belief about it is

893
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: is basically that their forces within the military that we're

894
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: working with Russia and ASSAD in order to crush ISIS

895
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: and they did this behind the back of Obama. And

896
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: when you really sort through the muck and you see

897
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: like what comes through the sifter, it appears that probably

898
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: Erik Prince, as a guy who runs a mercenary organization,

899
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: may have made a deal with Russia in some way.

900
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: And this is what's being translated to Alex as our

901
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: military made a deal in order to fight isis so crazy.

902
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: I believe a lot of this information that clearly relates

903
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: to Erik Prince is being filtered through Steve Pochenek and

904
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: being translated onto Alex's broadcast as the idea that there

905
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 1: are patriots within these communities that are fighting back against

906
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: the globalist Hillary Clinton forces, and so that makes him

907
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: think that he has like real legitimate backing within the

908
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: government when it appears that well, unfortunately now is the case. Yeah.

909
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: So the most fun thing about Roger Stone calling something

910
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 1: the group of is that you you can place that

911
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: within such a wide spectrum. It could literally be a

912
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,479
Speaker 1: Facebook group chat, or it could be an eyes wide

913
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 1: shut orgy and there's it could be anywhere in between.

914
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: Roger Stone is that guy of, Like it could be

915
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: so boring, or it could be the weirdest sex party.

916
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: Because I know, I can't believe that Alex Jones has

917
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: not been to a party that was shot for shot

918
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: indistinguishable from the one in Ice Wide Shot. Um, like

919
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: that's his Thursday. Uh, He's just that kind of guy. Um.

920
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: I got with Charlie Sheen during his most wild times

921
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: and uh is now good friends with Roger Stone, it

922
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: seems I mean, it's I don't think that Alex doesn't

923
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: like to party, do you guys notorious for not having

924
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: any sexually transmitted infections at all. So with the like,

925
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: it seems like Jones was essentially used as like the

926
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: dissemination point for some of this hacked information that like

927
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: Roger Stone may have been a broker from like that's

928
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: kind of the rough picture you can put together. It

929
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: appears so. And in Roger Stones case specifically, we went

930
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: back to the day, uh that when when all that

931
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: information came out about Roger Stones context with Goose for

932
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: two point oh. We went back to I believe it

933
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: was August sixteen, that right, Roger Stone calls it the

934
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: day the music died. I believe. Yeah, we went back

935
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: to that day and we found Alex teasing secret information

936
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: that and it ends up being what Wiki leaks puts out.

937
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: So there there is an indication that he has got

938
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: contact from Roger Stone, that Roger has made contact with

939
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: this other source. And mysteriously, even before the YouTube channel

940
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: was taken down, that episode is one of the only

941
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: ones that wasn't available on his YouTube channel that day

942
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: had been taken down or hidden somehow, but generally I

943
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: used to be able to find all of his episodes

944
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: just easily on YouTube, and that one I actually had

945
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: to dig for. That's really interesting. It's suspicious. It doesn't

946
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: prove anything, but it's suspicious. No, And it's a more

947
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: believable conspiracy than anything I've heard from Alex Jones in

948
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: quite a while. And I should say that it does

949
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: sound conspiratorial to say, like, there's this group or what

950
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: have you, and I wouldn't feel comfortable saying it if

951
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: it weren't something that was brought up by multiple guests

952
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: of Alex Jones's show that publicly pretend they don't know

953
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: each other. So it seems incongruous that Steve Pochenk and

954
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: Roger Stone would both be on the show and before

955
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: that point be very clearly saying that they don't know

956
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: each other and referencing the same group of people who

957
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: are pushing behind the scenes for Trump to be president.

958
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: Best argument against that, though, is if it is an

959
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: eyes wide shut orgy, everybody's wearing masks, that's true, everybody's

960
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: wearing masks. You don't know. Steve Pachet could have been

961
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: inside Roger Stone and neither of them. Know, yeah, sometimes

962
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: you're running a political campaign. Sometimes you're sucking a scyops director.

963
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: It all happens. I thought you were going to say,

964
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: running a train on a side. So, uh, you want

965
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: to set up the next clip? Uh? Yeah, what's this one?

966
00:53:52,880 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: This one? The clip title is augusteen, Alex sort of

967
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: confesses to murder. This is one of the weirdest clips

968
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: that we've ever encountered on the show, and it is

969
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: in the middle of an episode that has nothing to

970
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: do with this sort of topic, but Alex confesses, Uh,

971
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: it might have been involved in the crime. Google would

972
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: love to have me arrested and killed. Garrol t she

973
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: I've never killed anybody technically one guy, proper layer, but

974
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: technically out of the point is I've never killed anyone,

975
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: and people have helped trying to kill millions. Now I've

976
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: never killed a guy. Maybe one Wait wait, what what

977
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: do we get any more to tail out of that?

978
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: Because I have no trouble believing Alex Jones killed a guy. Uh.

979
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: A number of our listeners have spent sculated that what

980
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: he's referring to is like he's talked about, like as

981
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: a younger man bashing someone's head into the concrete and

982
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: then like you you even mentioned that you put a

983
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: guy into a coma, and there's a decent chance that

984
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: maybe that person died later of medical complications, and Alex

985
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: considers that to be like, I kind of killed that guy.

986
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: He put it into a coma. Yeah, I believe I

987
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 1: thought you did. His dad paid off some people. Uh,

988
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: one of them was a guy that Alex put into

989
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: a coma. Oh no, I was talking about the There

990
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: was a police report from like, t what's that you're

991
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: talking about? Space Hitler. Yes, Space Hitler, the fight with

992
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: Space Hitler. Because it doesn't seem like anyone got really

993
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: hurt with that. I had no idea he put a

994
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: guy in a coma. There's another story that Alex tells about.

995
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: He presents it as he was being bullied and picked

996
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: on and then the bully didn't realize that he could go,

997
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: and so he didn't. He couldn't stop himself. When the

998
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: rage got in him, he was bashing his head into

999
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: the concrete and put him into a coma, and his

1000
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 1: dad ended up getting sued because that guy's dad sued him.

1001
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: But it appears that it would be when he was

1002
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: a juvenile so it wouldn't appear in like open records

1003
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 1: or anything, because I found no evidence of that in

1004
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 1: any of the and people have dug pretty deep into

1005
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: his into his background, but um man, that would be

1006
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's fascinating that a lot of the

1007
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: times the best way to dig deep into Alex's background

1008
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: is to just let him talk, Like doing a lot

1009
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: of research can sometimes hurt you, other than corroborating the

1010
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: dumb ship that he said, like because one of the

1011
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 1: and that's one of the most fascinating parts about studying

1012
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: Alex Jones is unlike uh, Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity,

1013
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: Alex says the quiet parts loud so much. He's the

1014
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: weakest link of the right wing propaganda machine. So anytime

1015
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: you want to find out what the real goal behind

1016
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: propaganda is, just listen to Alex given a side like, oh,

1017
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: and the Hillary is trying to kill everybody. The reason

1018
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: that I'm saying this is because and then he just

1019
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: fills in the blank for you, like it's fascinating. He

1020
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: has very little filter and he's frequently drunk on air,

1021
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: So that's part of why he's worth covering to me,

1022
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: because like one of the things when I when I

1023
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: did Alex Jones, a bunch of people on fans on

1024
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: Twitter asked about, like, when am I going to cover

1025
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk of those guys, And the

1026
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: answer is never, because the only people I want to

1027
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: focus on this show are they're all terrible, but there's

1028
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: something impressive about all of them. They've all like and

1029
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: Alex Jones is an impressive human being. He's a person

1030
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: who was accomplished things that have altered the world. Been

1031
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: Shapiro is like a cheap xerox copy of Alex Jones,

1032
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't have the courage to be as crazy

1033
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: or racist or violent as Alex Jones, but he still

1034
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: sells supplements like he's just a rip off. Like, yeah,

1035
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: there's no point in covering the rip off. Let's talk

1036
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: about the real fucking thing. I agree entirely. I mean,

1037
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: there's something I was thinking about, like in terms of

1038
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: our own show, because we we like to try and

1039
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: not just talk about Alex Jones, like to try and

1040
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: cover some other things, and people like Charlie Kirk or

1041
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro even or a lot of these guys, they're

1042
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: just as dangerous in many ways, but their beliefs all

1043
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: still boiled down to a lot of this idea of

1044
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: cultural Marxism, the globalist, all of their beliefs tied up

1045
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: in the very same things that Alex has been covering

1046
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: for twenty years. So they are clearly inspired by Alex,

1047
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: and they're just so much less fun. Ben Shapiro sucks

1048
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: to listen to. He's the worst. Yeah, he's even worse

1049
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: than listening to Paul Joseph Watson. And that is that

1050
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: is a bar so low, it's a floor, right, yeah, sane,

1051
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: it sucks? How much too? How do these guys do it?

1052
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't understand. I mean, yeah, it's

1053
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: it's it's you know what. Let's let's wash the taste

1054
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: of thinking about Paul Joseph Watson out of our heads

1055
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: with another pautiful Alex Jones clip. You want to set

1056
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: this one up? Yeah, this one is that's a good transition,

1057
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: my friend. We have this one for episode. This one

1058
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: is called Alex is freaked Out by American Muslims. And

1059
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: I believe that this um sort of represents you were

1060
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: mentioning that he's kind of a racist biggotty kind of guy.

1061
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: And Kyle Albert uh and I think that this demonstrates

1062
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: his uh just sort of baseline position a boy people

1063
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: that are different than him. Detroit School to hold Muslim

1064
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Speaker 1: girls only. Prom Let me tell you something he didn't

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: A hundreds of thousands Obama brought in everywhere I went

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Speaker 1: in Austin yesterday, including a suburb. I went in two shops,

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Speaker 1: a Starbucks, and then I went in the pool supply

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00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: place and they were like seven people in the Starbucks.

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Speaker 1: Three of them were young Muslim girls with hoods over

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Speaker 1: their heads, drinking coffee after school. Then I went to

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00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: Pulse of Pope place, same deal. And all I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you is, imagine if you were in Saudi Arabia, and

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00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: in Sali Arabia they were walking the stores and they

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Speaker 1: were Christians and women with lipstick on and high heels everywhere,

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Speaker 1: they start physically attacking you. But here we're tolerant. I'm

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01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: just saying, we're letting in people in mass that are

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01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: not tolerant, that are the most oppressive cult like people

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Speaker 1: on earth. And it freaks me out. You bet, I'm

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01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: freaked out that I am. So what's freaking him out

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01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: is Muslim girls, just teenage teenage girls just at a pulse.

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Speaker 1: And the way he describes I forgot completely that he

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01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: describes them as Muslim girls in hoods, like not not

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: Muslims girls wearing a job or or anything, just like

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Speaker 1: they're wearing hoods. Like they might even have been wearing

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Speaker 1: a hoodie. They might have just been girls wearing hoodies.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really and this is like another one of

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01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: those far right sort of Islamophobic things that frustrates me.

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01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: Is like, yeah, Saudi Arabia is a garbage country with

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01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: garbage laws. I've spent a lot of time in the

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01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: Muslim world doing things that Muslims shouldn't do, like being very,

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01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 1: very drunk, and usually the people serving me would be

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01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 1: observant Muslims, and they're always just so happy to get

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Speaker 1: you what you want four screwdrivers. I'm just so happy

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Speaker 1: to be able to like treat you as my guest

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01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: right now. I just let let me, let me keep

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Speaker 1: pouring this for you, like I've never encountered any uh

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Speaker 1: like not that it doesn't happen in parts of the country,

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01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: but like in or in parts of the the Arab world,

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01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: but like as a general rule, I've encountered in my

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Speaker 1: life in the South more Christians who would judge me

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Speaker 1: for not looking like them than Muslims who would judge

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Speaker 1: me for doing something that is forbidden in their faith. Totally. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what I've heard from other folks who

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01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: had similar experiences. But I have not done too much

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01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: traveling myself, but it's what I hear. It's never a

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01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: bad idea to point out that people are not their governments.

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Speaker 1: People are not their governments policies. People are by and

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01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 1: large good people. What other people are doing, Yeah, I

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01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: got my own ship to worry about. What about Oh

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01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: you're drinking? My daughter is dating a rocker like about fine? Sure, yeah,

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01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: a Saudi Arabian punk rocker, you know the band? Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: But in that clip, the thing that I think it

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01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: really is what drives at home for me and is

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Speaker 1: the most the reason why I generally choose this to

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01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: be indicative of Alex's bigotry. Well, he said a lot

1116
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: of other, maybe much more offensively bigoted things. This one

1117
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: is he's complaining about the idea that Muslims are coming

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01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: to America and that they're awful or scary to him.

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Speaker 1: In some way, and then he goes on to describe

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Speaker 1: what could be Muslim women doing very American things. Yeah, exactly.

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01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: He's talking about people who are uh absorbing our way

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01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: of life, going to a Starbucks, going to a pool

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Speaker 1: supply shop, and that freaks him out. He's freaked out

1124
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 1: by the idea of assimilation, not the idea of non assimilation.

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01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's a general truth whenever these people

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01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: talk about how when whenever they frame it as like,

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: my issue is that these people coming to the country

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Speaker 1: won't assimilate. No, your issue is that they will. They

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01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: will become part of the fabric of this country, and

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01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: both they and the country will change as a result,

1131
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: because that's how the world works. And that's what fucking

1132
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: terrifies you. And your straight white identity won't have as

1133
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: much purchase as it used to. You won't have the

1134
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: security of power that you once enjoyed. And it's a

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01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: classic example of him invalidating his own argument with the

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01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: sentence that's supposed to validate his argument, Like when he says,

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01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, if you go to Saudi Arabia and you

1138
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: were lipstick, they'll they'll physically attack you. But here we're tolerant,

1139
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: and you're like, no, you just literally said that you

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01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: didn't want Muslim girls in a pool supply store. What

1141
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 1: are you talking about, we'd tolerant. There's nothing there's nothing

1142
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: more sacred to an American than a pool supply store.

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01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: That actually, you know, I really there's something that just

1144
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: makes me tear up with patriotic vigor when I see

1145
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: a bottle of meriatic acid that really just shivers. Are

1146
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: the only two things that I think America stands for.

1147
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: So I want to hear the rest of your clips.

1148
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 1: But this has gone on long enough that we're going

1149
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: to do a an ad pivot, uh, which I I

1150
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: just announced and you shouldn't but by these products and

1151
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: we're back this uh. This clip here is Alex likes

1152
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: to talk about how everyone accuses him of being a

1153
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: Russian agent. He he complains about that all the time.

1154
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: He uh says, it's very unfair. It's a terrible criticism

1155
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: of him. One of the things that we found when

1156
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: we were looking over turning into being Trump's mouthpiece, we

1157
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: found that he was super into Putin before he was

1158
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: into Trump. Even as he's saying Trump is a mob boss. Basically,

1159
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: he's articulating things along the lines of Putin is like

1160
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 1: he represents hope for the world and that sort of thing.

1161
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: It's very Russian positive. Would you say that Vladimir Putin

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01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: was like his gateway autocrat. I think I think he

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: might have been. Yeah, I'm not sure of any others

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01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: that I can think of that he sort of full

1165
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: throaded Lee approved of before then. But he he's very

1166
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: much into Russia and Russia's line of propaganda in the world,

1167
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: even before he gets in with Trump. And so in

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01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: October we found this clip that is really upsetting. H

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01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: if you consider, um, you know now him saying, I,

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01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, I have nothing to do with Russia. This

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01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: clip is October alex Is debriefed. I mean, we have

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Speaker 1: the big lessons and yes, the Russian government listeners of

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: the show. Then I was told that by RT International,

1174
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: one of their main heads. I'll leave it at that,

1175
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: in a Skype interview where I was told it was

1176
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: a Skype interview, and it wasn't a Skype interview. Once

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Speaker 1: they cut to me, they started interrogating me in a

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01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: big table with a bunch of top Russians that and

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01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: asking me questions, and then they have been threatened to

1180
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: never had me back on our T by the U

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01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,440
Speaker 1: S government. They were basically asked me who I was,

1182
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: who I worked for, how I could do certain things.

1183
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: And they were asking me if I was a US

1184
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: government agent or who I worked for, and I said

1185
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: I worked for liberty. But that's the level I met.

1186
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: Where like a James Bond movie, it's not our T.

1187
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 1: It's a big table in a government building with a

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: bunch of guys staring at me. And I see him

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01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: on TV sometimes it's like Russian you know, leaders Puttin

1190
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,959
Speaker 1: listens to the show is the point. That's the point

1191
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: I am. I am sure that Vladimir Putin in between Yeah, yeah,

1192
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm certain he's listening to four hour Info Wars episodes

1193
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 1: in his busy days. It's a birthday thing, like on

1194
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: his birthday, somebody murders a journalist and he listened to

1195
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: Alex Jones. So that's just a good day, just kind

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01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: of how Yeah. It's one of the skills that I

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: think you can develop from listening to a ton of

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01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: this stuff is sort of sussing out when Alex is

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01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 1: lying and when he's not um And there's little characteristic

1200
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: flourishes when he lies of like, he really overdoes. So,

1201
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: there were three globalists in a hot tub. He's talking

1202
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: to three globalists. Two of them were wearing lovely suits

1203
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 1: in the hot tub. The other one was actually wearing

1204
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: a full suit in the hot tub. And then an

1205
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: info warrior comes in and joins the hot tub group

1206
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: and they're both sitting around the hot tub group. The

1207
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: info warrior says something and he goes Alex Jones, and

1208
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 1: then the three globalists turned into demons and they fly away.

1209
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: Like that's that's how incredibly detailed his stories are. Whenever

1210
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 1: he's making ship up, he gets really granular when he lies. Yeah. Yeah,

1211
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: And so when you when I hear a story like that, um,

1212
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: I hear the ring of truth to the the sort

1213
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: of boring nous of some of the details, and the

1214
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: and the sort of concreteness of it. He goes in

1215
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 1: for an interview that he thinks is an interview. It's

1216
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: actually some Russian agents who want to talk to him

1217
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: about like, Hey, you're saying a lot of stuff that

1218
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: we're into. Oh, also, let's flatter you and say that

1219
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin is a huge fan of your work. And

1220
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,799
Speaker 1: then he comes away from that being super in favor

1221
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: of Russia's angle in the world, to the point where

1222
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,839
Speaker 1: any time there's uh, the world believes ex Russia believes

1223
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: why he believes why. There's not necessarily it's not necessarily

1224
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: proof that like he works for them or anything like that.

1225
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 1: That would be crazy, but it is proof that I

1226
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: think he's been compromised by flattery. I mean, we do

1227
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: know that there's only one there's a there's one degree

1228
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 1: of separation between Alex Jones and Vladimir Putin because Alex

1229
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: Jones is friends with Steven Seagal, who has been on

1230
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: his show that Seagal is friends with Vladimir Putin. So

1231
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: you could even go with Alexander Dugan. Uh, He's been

1232
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: on Alex's show multiple times. And right after the election,

1233
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: Alex was on Alexander Dugan's show in Russia where Alex

1234
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: almost cried while Dugan told him that he was the

1235
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: model of an American man and he had single handedly

1236
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: solved American Russian relations. Yeah, I believe Alex broke down

1237
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: and crying and then asked Alexander Dugan to be as

1238
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: head of HR because his his daddy issues are a

1239
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 1: little bit harsh vacation. So uh, let's get to this mystery.

1240
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's crack this caper. Okay, So shall

1241
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: I play this clip and then you you um tell

1242
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 1: me what? Yeah this is. This is a clip that

1243
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: you guys put on your show pretty regularly when you

1244
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 1: announce your new uh patrion backers and stuff. And it's uh,

1245
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,480
Speaker 1: it's never not hypnotized me into wanting to know what

1246
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: what the context is. So yeah, play the clip and

1247
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 1: then our our listeners will be curious too. I mentioned

1248
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: this on Saturday to the pulpit that some want someone

1249
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: sodomite sent me a bucket of poop? Did I tell

1250
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: you all that? And that's what's the name of that clip,

1251
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: that is, Uh, sodomite sent me a bucket of poop? Okay,

1252
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: it's very self explainatory that. So that comes from a

1253
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 1: sermon or a broadcast that was made by a guy

1254
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: named Reverend James David Manning. Uh three names perfect. Yeah.

1255
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: He used to be a regular guest on Alex's show

1256
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: UM and would come on and talk about how um

1257
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: Starbucks was putting semen in people's latte's. Uh, there was

1258
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: all kinds of fun conspiracs extra because there's a couple

1259
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: of grands of protein in that. And I can tell

1260
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: you on a day when I'm really no, Okay, well

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: it's a four seventy nine, I'll tell you that. I

1262
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: don't know why, but it's four seventy nine. He Uh,

1263
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:52,640
Speaker 1: Manning would come on and engage in largely some pretty homophobic,

1264
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: Islamophobic conspiracy theories. Um. And so he's talking about how

1265
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, the gays are so out of control one

1266
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: of them sent me a bucket of poop. Uh And uh,

1267
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: I just thought that was pretty fun. We did, um,

1268
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: we did an episode about him being on Alex's show

1269
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: and how crazy it is that those worlds intersected. Um.

1270
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Speaker 1: And in doing that episode, we learned that as soon

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Speaker 1: as Trump got elected, Reverend Manning decided this isn't the

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Speaker 1: way to go, and he decided that Trump was the

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Speaker 1: devil and he now calls him tribulation Trump and refuses

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Speaker 1: to go on Alex's show ever. Again, it's not bad,

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Speaker 1: you know that, that's actually a really satisfying arc. Uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And kudos to that guy for not like like Alex

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Speaker 1: Jones has been inconsistent to a degree because like, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's always been the he's just the whole. The thing

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Speaker 1: that he's supporting the greatest authority in the land now

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Speaker 1: is very much counter to at least this guy's consistent.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's good. I respect that. Tip of the

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: hat to the reverend. Tip of the hat to the reverend.

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01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,680
Speaker 1: Uh and he saw the mines listening. If you want

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01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,799
Speaker 1: to send the guy a bucket of poop, it seems

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Speaker 1: like you can find his address you just google law ministries.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, well, I think that's gonna be our episode

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Speaker 1: for the day. I am very gratefully to you for

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: putting those clips together, and too to both of y'all

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01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: for sharing your encyclopedic in somewhat frightening knowledge of Alex Jones.

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Speaker 1: I do want to kind of close by asking are

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Speaker 1: y'all worried about him? Because I'm a little worried about

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Speaker 1: him about his mental and physical health. I'm worried for

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Speaker 1: his kids. Yeah, we're Yeah, that's that's that's sort of

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Speaker 1: where I land on it. Like, if he flames out

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Speaker 1: in self destruct, I'm not really concerned about that. But

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Speaker 1: if you know, if he hurts other people on the

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Speaker 1: way down, then that's kind of I am worried about that.

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Speaker 1: It looks like he could end up really screwing up

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Speaker 1: some people's lives. I I feel like the same feeling

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Speaker 1: that you get when you start reading a serial killers

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Speaker 1: backstory where you read about the serial killer who killed

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Speaker 1: like eight people. You're like, Oh, this guy's a monster,

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Speaker 1: and then you find out, oh, he was horribly sexually

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Speaker 1: abused as a child and all of this, this just

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01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: mountainous ride of bullshit happened to him, and then you

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Speaker 1: kind of start to empathize with this monster. So the

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Speaker 1: more time we spend with Alex Jones, the more you

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Speaker 1: find out that this is most likely a guy who

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Speaker 1: has malignant narcissism with most likely a certain amount of

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Speaker 1: schizophrenia built around it, and unfortunately was introduced to like

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Speaker 1: John Birch society ideas at a young age and didn't

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Speaker 1: really understand what he was reading, and that's shaped him

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Speaker 1: um as a political actor exactly. So so as somebody

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Speaker 1: who has been like I'm I'm bipolar type one, you know,

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Speaker 1: and there's always an instinct that I have to empathize

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Speaker 1: with somebody who is struggling with something that a you know,

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Speaker 1: suck quote unquote normal people don't have to deal with

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Speaker 1: and at the same time, you know, not everybody with

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Speaker 1: the ship with the shitty childhood becomes a serial killer.

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Speaker 1: So funk that guy, you know? Yeah, I mean, because

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Speaker 1: you got like the Chabanni guy who sued Alex and

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Speaker 1: then kindly shows not to take control of him Info

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Speaker 1: wars essentially like that guy was a refugee. That guy

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Speaker 1: grew up with some probably a way more difficult childhood

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Speaker 1: than Alex Jones, but rather than turning into a a

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Speaker 1: red anger goblin, became a philanthropist who helps refugees. I'm

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Speaker 1: staunchly anti billionaire to the point of, like we need

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Speaker 1: to start sending Jeff Bezos buckets of poop. But hamdi Olakaya,

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Speaker 1: he's not a bad guy. If someone's gonna have like

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Speaker 1: I would prefer, we live in a world where nobody

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Speaker 1: accumulate quite that much wealth. But he seems to be

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Speaker 1: one of the ones who's been the most responsible with it. Exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think. I think when you focus on helping other

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Speaker 1: people and inclusion and that sort of thing, it sort

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Speaker 1: of helps your soul. Whereas when you're really obsessed with

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Speaker 1: exclusion in the way that Alex Jones, is it erodes

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01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: you no matter what, like, no matter how much money

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Speaker 1: you make, no matter how much fame and acclaim you get,

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Speaker 1: it'll just a road you And I think that's the

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Speaker 1: difference between him and someone like Hamdi. I think that's

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01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: a great note to close out on. So do you

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Speaker 1: guys want to plug your plug doubles before we before

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Speaker 1: we roll on? Absolutely, Like you said to, our website

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Speaker 1: is knowledge fight dot com. We have some stuff up there,

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Speaker 1: probably more resources coming in the near future of things. Um,

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Speaker 1: we're on iTunes. We are. I am a a I

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01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:25,839
Speaker 1: don't know, semi professional stand up comedian. You could probably

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Speaker 1: find me somewhere, I suppose if you're going around, if

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Speaker 1: you're interested in finding comics, you're right, you might stumble

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Speaker 1: upon me. That's my plug. Okay, that's a good plug.

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Speaker 1: That's a good plug. Thanks so much for having us.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Thank you very much. Thank you

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01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: guys for being on listeners again knowledge fight dot com.

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Speaker 1: If you you want more Alex Jones, and I know

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Speaker 1: you do because the three episodes we already did on

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Speaker 1: him were wildly popular. So check out their podcast. Listen

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01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: to it. You can start from the beginning. You can

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01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: listen to the more recent stuff. It's all just wild.

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Speaker 1: And you guys make the soul crushing experience of listening

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01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: to Alex Jones enjoyable because you portion it out in

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Speaker 1: the right amounts to where it just doesn't crush your spirit. Um,

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Speaker 1: So thank you for what you do. Listeners. Check out

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Speaker 1: Knowledge Fight dot com. I'm Robert Evans. This is Behind

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Speaker 1: the Bastards. You can find us on behind the Bastards

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Speaker 1: dot com or we'll have some images from the show.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter and Instagram at Bastards pod.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, check out Knowledge Fight. Continue checking out Behind

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Speaker 1: the Bastards and uh, thanks a lot for being on today. Guys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.