WEBVTT - Tommy Talk: I FINALLY WATCHED OFF CAMPUS

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to Tommy Talk. And today's topic is

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<v Speaker 1>I finally watched Off Campus. Yes I did. I admittedly

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<v Speaker 1>was a little delayed because work got in the way

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<v Speaker 1>and life got in the way. But I finally binged

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<v Speaker 1>Off Campus and oh my god, I get it. I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. I get why everybody in the world is

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<v Speaker 1>so obsessed with this show. Now. First of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>love TV. I love film. I watch a lot because

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<v Speaker 1>a I love it beats the world I live in.

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<v Speaker 1>I interview people for a living, right, so whenever I

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<v Speaker 1>interview someone, I want to watch what they're in, which

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes delays the things that I also really want to

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<v Speaker 1>watch because I have to watch things prior to that

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<v Speaker 1>based on work. So anyway, here I am. I finally

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<v Speaker 1>watched Off Campus, and you, guys, oh my god, what

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<v Speaker 1>a special show this is. I cried so much, I

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<v Speaker 1>laughed so much. I loved it so much. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about why this millennial loves Off Campus.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, it is taken over the world by storm.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean honestly, and I guess I'll speak for

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<v Speaker 1>myself because this is my opinion. I want to watch

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<v Speaker 1>couples genuinely yearning for each other right, like putting it

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<v Speaker 1>all on the line and wearing their hearts on their

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<v Speaker 1>sleeves and showing how they feel and not worrying about

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<v Speaker 1>looking silly or cringe, and you know, doing things that

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<v Speaker 1>might make people think, oh my god, I look so stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. I want that. I want to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see them leaning into the love and

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<v Speaker 1>the romance of it all. I don't really want toxicity

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<v Speaker 1>non stop. I don't gravitate towards those shows. The shows

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<v Speaker 1>that are very toxic between characters that I've tried to

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<v Speaker 1>watch I generally fall off of. I don't know. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>at this point in my life, I don't really want

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<v Speaker 1>shows that are so heavy and dark and toxicity. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe when I was younger, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>liked those more. I also think the world's a different place.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so heavy and sometimes seemingly dark that I do

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<v Speaker 1>want more of a lighthearted show, but also a show

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<v Speaker 1>that says something with powerful themes, which I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to because this show tackles quite a lot that

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<v Speaker 1>is really powerful, really moving, and really important and the

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<v Speaker 1>real world heavy topics that are weaved in between the storylines.

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<v Speaker 1>Of romance are super important. So in terms of the romance,

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<v Speaker 1>I want genuine displays of affection and emotion. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I like. That makes me feel like I'm watching a

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<v Speaker 1>nineties romcom I grew up with, and I like that

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<v Speaker 1>the show says something. And honestly, I didn't read the books.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of fans of the show read

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<v Speaker 1>the books. First, I'm somebody coming into the series without

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<v Speaker 1>reading the books, although now I want to. So I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know really what this was going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>or tackle, but there are so many themes, even micro themes.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, it's a sexy show and it's wrapped up

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<v Speaker 1>in that love story. But those powerful moments, man, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just thinking about it now, they kind of take my

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<v Speaker 1>breath away because I know they're going to help and

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<v Speaker 1>have helped so many people feel seen. So here's why

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<v Speaker 1>I love Off Campus. Let's kick this off. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>number one. The show shows relationships where both partners genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>respect one another, They communicate, they have a healthy dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah and Garrett, I think, are such incredible characters, and

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<v Speaker 1>yes they have a few bumps along the way, but

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<v Speaker 1>they never lose that respect for one another, and we

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<v Speaker 1>see that in the end. Right, the problems in the relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>I think were more about Garrett trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>who he is and being afraid of hurting Hannah. And

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<v Speaker 1>if Hannah shut down, it's because of what she went through.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't because of any sort of scandal or cheating

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<v Speaker 1>or toxicity between them, which honestly is refreshing. It's quite refreshing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they had to work on things on their own,

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<v Speaker 1>but the drama and the problems weren't because they were

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<v Speaker 1>in this really awful, belligerent relationship. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool to see. I think it's healthy to see.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need reminders of that. Look, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship for almost twelve years, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>I function. I don't operate in toxicity. I operate out

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<v Speaker 1>of respect and love and connection and genuinely wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>ride through this life with somebody who's my best friend

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<v Speaker 1>and my partner. Like that's what's important to me. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to see. We need more displays of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I also love that the writers who are brilliant shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to the writers, because this is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most well written shows I've watched in a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>The writers aren't afraid to commit to storylines that are

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the romance of it all right, because we're all watching.

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<v Speaker 1>We love the romance, we love the sexiness. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>writing things in depth, like not skimming things over, that

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<v Speaker 1>allow the characters and even us to delve into the

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<v Speaker 1>emotional depth of some pretty heavy themes. And obviously, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've watched the show or where the books, you know

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<v Speaker 1>those themes include sexual assaults and abuse, mental health trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>Those things aren't always very comfortable to talk about as humans.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're going through those things, sometimes it's very hard

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<v Speaker 1>for us to talk about. But they do it in

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<v Speaker 1>a way. These writers do it in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make the entire show feel heavy or like

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<v Speaker 1>a drag or super dark, but instead it drills in

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of these themes and these moments for these

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<v Speaker 1>characters while they're processing what they're processing in real time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think because of these themes, we're rooting so

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<v Speaker 1>hard for these characters. We're rooting extra hard for them

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<v Speaker 1>because we know they have to overcome so much and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going through things that are terrible and that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>should have to go through. But unfortunately, in this world

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<v Speaker 1>we live in, in this day and age, in this life,

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<v Speaker 1>people do go through that. So we're rooting for them.

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<v Speaker 1>We want them to heal, we want them to be

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<v Speaker 1>on their journey to feeling like their best selves and

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<v Speaker 1>putting some things in the past. So I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>mixed with the romance is so important. It really is. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>The self blaming is another theme. How many of us

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<v Speaker 1>have blamed ourselves for things that have nothing to do

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<v Speaker 1>with us. We didn't cause we didn't do it. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't our doing right, But as humans, sometimes we blame ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. We saw this in the show when Hannah

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<v Speaker 1>breaks down on the bench to her parents apologizing for

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<v Speaker 1>ruining their lives because she got assaulted. And my heart broke.

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<v Speaker 1>My heart literally fell out of my body on the

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<v Speaker 1>floor and shattered into like nine thousand pieces because I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to apologize for that's it wasn't your fault.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened to you. But that's also very human. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people carry guilt with them and think it

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<v Speaker 1>is their fault. So I love that this show addressed that,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a beautiful moment with her parents, and

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<v Speaker 1>you just see the release in Hannah in that moment, like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, it isn't my fault, and I now

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<v Speaker 1>have permission to move on because maybe I haven't said

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<v Speaker 1>this out loud and I needed to hear that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not my fault. I just think that whole scene was gorgeous,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely gorgeous, and done with sensitivity and in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that really makes us root for her as we do

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<v Speaker 1>the entire series. I also love that Off Campus has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the focus placed on the characters individual

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<v Speaker 1>struggles like what I just mentioned with Hannah and how

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<v Speaker 1>they overcome them on their own or together with the

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<v Speaker 1>support of their friends. Leaning on friends in the series

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<v Speaker 1>is so important, and I love seeing those moments for

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<v Speaker 1>all the characters where their best friends come together shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to best friends, what would we ever do without you?

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<v Speaker 1>And they can lean on them. I think that's really

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. So rather than toxic drama between each other

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<v Speaker 1>and even friendships, I think it's great to see the

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<v Speaker 1>support and we all have hardships that we have to overcome,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it's inspiring as a viewer and pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cool as a viewer. To see characters that we connect

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<v Speaker 1>with going through their own journey with that, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I feel that I'm going through that too,

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<v Speaker 1>or if it's not exactly that, I see you going

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<v Speaker 1>through and trying to move past or move through whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you're going through, So you know what, I feel inspired

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<v Speaker 1>to do the same. Love that. Love that. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the supporting characters because they are all just as

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<v Speaker 1>likable and we're rooting for them hard. We are rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for them hard. Ali and Dean love them. I love

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<v Speaker 1>that Ali is trying to figure out who she is

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<v Speaker 1>without a man, but she knows she has feelings deep

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<v Speaker 1>down for Dean, and we're like, girl, you can't ignore them.

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<v Speaker 1>We see them, we know you have them. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love how Dean the big playboy of the series, he

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<v Speaker 1>realizes he wants more with somebody, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a really cool realization. So I can't wait for their

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<v Speaker 1>season two storyline. I am ready for it. Those characters

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<v Speaker 1>are incredible. I feel like we all need a best

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<v Speaker 1>friend like Ali. I am obsessed with that character, Like

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<v Speaker 1>rock On, She's the best. John Logan is so cool too, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I love seeing the friendship between him and Garrett. It's

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<v Speaker 1>nice to see how that journey unfolds. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about John Logan for a moment

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<v Speaker 1>because he has some things that really stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, when he took a dish to rehab for

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<v Speaker 1>his mom and he showed up after not wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>show up because dealing with his mother is very hard

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<v Speaker 1>on him, and he surprised his sibling Jules. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>rock on, what a great message, you know, because yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that was very hard for him to go through.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've had people in my life go through addiction

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<v Speaker 1>and it is hard, and it is hard, and you

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes do want to create that space. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>Jule said, like she's doing what she can do now

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<v Speaker 1>she's in rehab, she is trying to help herself. And

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<v Speaker 1>I love that moment. It's like she she is, she is.

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<v Speaker 1>So John showed up to drop off, you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>food for the holiday, and I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful moment of a reminder to show up for each other,

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<v Speaker 1>just show up for one another. I just love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I also love the moment in the kitchen when Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>opens up to him about his abusive father and even

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<v Speaker 1>though John's been hurt by Garrett, He's there for him

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<v Speaker 1>and he embraces him like rock on. A great show

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<v Speaker 1>of friendship, especially masculine friendship between two dudes. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else? Oh, John Tucker. I got to give a

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to John Tucker, the caregiver of the group.

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<v Speaker 1>Love me some, John Tucker, and I love that the

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<v Speaker 1>show is a sports storyline. The thrill of the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>of winning a game is so fun to watch, like

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<v Speaker 1>in Heated Rivalry or the Kate Hudson Show match Point

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix, or it's Alasso on Apple like I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a good sports game in a show. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's really cool and it adds another layer of like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, please win. We're rooting for you so hard,

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<v Speaker 1>we need you to win. So if it's a sports show,

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<v Speaker 1>sign me up. And as a millennial, I like that

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<v Speaker 1>it gives me a nineties rom com vibe. I mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties earlier, and there's a lot of millennial references throughout.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if you caught them. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the music Get on the Floor by j Lo, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, I first of all, I love j Lo,

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<v Speaker 1>and that song just brought me back, And I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that the author confirmed nods to other shows throughout the series,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think Tucker is John Tucker as in John

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker Must Die. I believe the author said Garrett and

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah were inspired by Nathan and Haley from One Tree Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's all these little nods which I think are

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<v Speaker 1>really cool and why so many millennials also love the

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<v Speaker 1>show and it does give you that give you that

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<v Speaker 1>throwback vibe like almost She's all that or like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those one of those films or shows which I love,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think we need more dudes with storylines like Garrett.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a good dude at his core, he's this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of masculiney, this big shock. Sometimes it's hard for him

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<v Speaker 1>to process emotion, and he you know, does things like

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<v Speaker 1>push his handa away, but at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>his heart is gold, and I think that's so great. Hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope there's a lot of like gen Z dudes

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<v Speaker 1>watching this because it's a great example of how to

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<v Speaker 1>treat a woman and how to treat a partner and

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<v Speaker 1>that yes, you can be macho and Dudley and ployee

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<v Speaker 1>sports and all that, but you can also be a

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<v Speaker 1>good human. So I love that description and that character

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<v Speaker 1>for that reason. I think it's a really important, important

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<v Speaker 1>model of what a modern day man should be. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean hold on, like the badass musical number at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Come on, who doesn't love a big, powerful

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<v Speaker 1>musical number Hannah song at the end, I was literally

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<v Speaker 1>cheering and clapping on my couch. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>so good and I'm like, yes, finally you're putting out

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<v Speaker 1>your heart. I love it. Like I said, we root

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<v Speaker 1>for these characters, so there's so much to love about

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<v Speaker 1>Off Campus. I honestly went into the show being let

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<v Speaker 1>me see if it really is all that it's being

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<v Speaker 1>hyped up to be. You know, I didn't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't read the book, and I was excited to check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. And from episode one, hooked like hooked, hooked,

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<v Speaker 1>so brilliant. Job to the cast and the writers and

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<v Speaker 1>the crew and everyone who brought the show to life.

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<v Speaker 1>I will share I am in touch with a few

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<v Speaker 1>of the cast members teams to come onto my podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never said this before for season two, so I

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<v Speaker 1>am working hard on getting some of those interviews booked,

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<v Speaker 1>and for season two, I think I will be bringing

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<v Speaker 1>you some off campus interviews, so get excited for that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm happy to share my review. I love Championing.

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<v Speaker 1>Championing that's a hard word to say. A great show

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<v Speaker 1>with a great storyline and great themes that deserves to

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<v Speaker 1>be put out there and blasted for everything amazing that

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<v Speaker 1>it's putting out into the world. So if you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>watched off Campus, go check it out. I may even

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<v Speaker 1>watch it again because I'm like, wait, it's done. I

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<v Speaker 1>miss it and I'm so excited for season two and

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<v Speaker 1>stay two for some great interviews for season two coming

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<v Speaker 1>on up Here is to watching shows that literally just

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<v Speaker 1>fill our cop I mean, like I said, I think

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<v Speaker 1>i gotta go watch it again. I've Never Said This

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<v Speaker 1>Before is hosted by Me Tommy Dedario. This podcast is

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