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Speaker 2: But we will tell you the whole story of what

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's screed about all of his various beautification projects,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's paying very close attention to the news coverage, clearly,

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Speaker 1: Yes, if soccer were here, he would say greasy Gavin.

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Speaker 1: That's gude be his favorite Trump nickname. I think Kyle

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Speaker 1: It occurred in nature and everyone just sort of discovered it,

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Speaker 1: We came upon it. Society like Crystal just ran down.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get to it.

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Speaker 2: We've got a some wild scenes that were unfolding this

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Speaker 2: This was actually Iraq near the American embassy in the

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Speaker 4: The best that I've seen is that.

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Speaker 2: Some sort of pro Iran, probably more Shia aligned Iranian

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Speaker 4: As I mentioned before, we had renewed.

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Speaker 2: put a four up on the screen. This is the

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Speaker 4: So this just.

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Speaker 2: Happened Emily last night, just before the markets opened. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how many times have we done the stance where over

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Speaker 4: You had first it started with there was.

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Speaker 4: There were US strikes.

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Speaker 2: Iran hit a couple of ships that were transitting in

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Speaker 2: US retaliated quite significantly. Put a five up on the

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Speaker 2: We had some classic Trump threats. We can put a

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Speaker 2: six up on the screen, he says. United States aircraft

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Speaker 2: just struck Iranian missile and drone storage locations and coastal

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Speaker 2: radar sites for violating the seasfire agreement. Again, very possible.

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Speaker 2: They will never learn. There may come a point when

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Speaker 2: be forced to militarily complete the job that we very

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Speaker 2: successfully started. If that happens, the Islami Republic of Iran

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Speaker 1: Chris, what can we pause on that? Yeah, just for so,

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Speaker 1: because he says something important here, which is that we

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Speaker 1: now selling all of these deals as very much a

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Speaker 1: completed job, but implying in that post he would need

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Speaker 4: To complete and actually finish the job.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and so the implication is that the job has

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Speaker 4: That is true.

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Speaker 2: That is a good reading of that. And of course

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Speaker 2: the even just the threats that are in that that

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Speaker 2: that is in direct contradiction to the Memo of Understanding

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Speaker 2: we're not going to go around threatening each other, and

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Speaker 2: the screen is another Trump post. He says that they

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Speaker 2: shot at least for one way attack durones that ship's

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Speaker 2: trains first transversing the Strait of Horror moves. One of

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Speaker 2: the drones solidly hit the upper deck of a large

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Speaker 2: and very expensive cargo carrying ship. Damage was done. The

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Speaker 2: down three other drones. Obviously, this is a foolish violation

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Speaker 2: of our ceasefire agreement. Iran retaliated a nine put this

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Speaker 4: Bases there that have already been hit.

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Speaker 2: No loss of life, some damage did occur, apparently, you know,

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Speaker 2: we have very little visibility into how much damage and

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Speaker 2: how damaged these bases are to begin with. More and

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Speaker 2: more information has come out that some were quite heavily damaged,

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Speaker 2: even potentially obliterated. Our troops had to be moved away

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Speaker 2: why there was no loss of life. So, in any case,

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Speaker 2: ships struck hot disagreements over the Strait of Horn moves. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Emily that is going to continue to be a key

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Speaker 2: sticking point. There was a question whether negotiations were going

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Speaker 2: to see this week. We're not jd vance, you said

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Speaker 2: this morning is headed to Qatar. They have moved the

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Speaker 2: negotiations out of Switzerland after all of this unfolded, and

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Speaker 2: now they have changed the topic that they are going

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Speaker 2: to focus on to start with, They're going to start

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Speaker 2: instead of beginning with the nuclear file, They're going to

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Speaker 2: start with what's going on with the straight of form

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Speaker 2: is because this is obviously an area that continues to

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Speaker 2: lead to hot conflict.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to your point, the agreement came down yesterday,

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Speaker 1: no surprise there. Once again another market Time reaction features

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Speaker 1: no big surprise on that front. But the Times is

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Speaker 1: confirming that Vance plans to head to Katar, and then

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Speaker 1: on top of that, the Iranians are not confirming they

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Speaker 1: have seen played out so far, many many times. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see what comes of it tomorrow. But obviously them

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Speaker 1: So a couple of things there, Crystal. First, you have

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Speaker 2: I'm sure this morning he's less happy now that there's

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Speaker 4: what he's hoping.

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Speaker 1: For, probably what he's now moving towards, separating to the

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Speaker 1: extent that he possibly can Lebanon in the Iran deal,

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Speaker 1: which the Iranians know they don't want. But that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: that would make sense from his perspective how he thinks

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Speaker 1: this could play out.

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Speaker 2: But as long as ships and their insurers do not

448
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Speaker 2: feel that things are all good to go in the

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Speaker 2: Strait of Hormuz, the economic clock is going to continue

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Speaker 2: to tick. So all of those calamitous outcomes that Trump

451
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Speaker 2: was so concerned about that brought him to what is,

452
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Speaker 2: by you know, any reasonable measure, a very humiliating a

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Speaker 2: memo of understanding and state of affairs where basically the

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Speaker 2: US has to acknowledge the world that we lost this war.

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Speaker 2: It was the economic calamity that brought us to that point.

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Speaker 2: All of those pieces continue, maybe at a slightly slower pace,

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Speaker 2: but continue to ramp up the pressure. You know, where

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Speaker 2: strategic petroleum reserve is reaching bottom of the barrel. There's

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Speaker 2: only so much that China is going to be able

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Speaker 2: to save us. You know, they really curtailed their imports

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Speaker 2: of oil and gas. That's part of how we were

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Speaker 2: able to get to this point. And so if you

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Speaker 2: continue to have a situation where it's unstable and you

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Speaker 2: do not have the straight of Hormus open in the

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Speaker 2: way that it was before, then it's going to be

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Speaker 2: very hard to keep Iran on the back borner forever.

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Speaker 2: It's different from Gaza in that regard. I mean, that's why,

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Speaker 2: that's why you can unfortunately kick Gaz off the front

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Speaker 2: pages and get people to pay attention to other things.

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Speaker 2: But Iran is demonstrated they have this powerful economic weapon,

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Speaker 2: and that's something that's hard to push in the background.

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Speaker 1: But totally it's it's sort of in the same way

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Speaker 1: I think he saw Venezuela and got this hubris about

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Speaker 1: Iran Bagura on that. It's not that it's necessarily an

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Speaker 1: accurate reading of the situation, but I think it fueled

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Speaker 1: his sense of kind arrogance about what be able to

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Speaker 1: be accomplished. And if it's not clear from everything we've

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Speaker 1: just run down, this is nobody is out of the

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Speaker 1: woods on this, like this is not really a ceasefire.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we've seen that pretty clearly over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. But even the MoU itself is on enormously

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Speaker 1: shaky ground whether there anything I mean, yes, they signed

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Speaker 1: the points and all of that, but whether the sixty

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Speaker 1: day Nuclear Conversation is even able to happen in this context.

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Speaker 1: They can keep having the meetings, they can keep going

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Speaker 1: to Cutter, they can keep going to Switzerland if they

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Speaker 1: end up back there, but it doesn't really mean much

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Speaker 1: unless ships are able to keep going through the Strait

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Speaker 1: of Hormuz, and so far we haven't seen that.

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Speaker 4: That is exactly right.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, I think Trump he doesn't really

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Speaker 2: want to have to deal with this anymore. He has

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Speaker 2: other things on his mind, Emily, when.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't want to keep hearing the candidates that are

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Speaker 1: actually campaigning and trying to keep their seats chirping at

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Speaker 1: him about gas prices, so he wants to get that

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Speaker 1: out of the way. And to your point, Crystal, focus

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Speaker 1: on the beautiful celebration of America's two hundred and fiftieth birthday. Boy,

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Speaker 1: do we have some clips for you. The fourth of

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Speaker 1: July is right around the corner, and celebrations here in Washington,

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Speaker 1: DC are off Donald Trump's great American Fair, Great American

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Speaker 1: State Fair, I should say, is now officially open, and

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Speaker 1: the early scenes could be better from his perspective, let's roll.

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Speaker 4: Some of the clips remembered.

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Speaker 2: A military parade that was like, really pathetic. It's very

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Speaker 2: much that coded.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you see here a smattering of people. This

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Speaker 1: is actually interesting. So this has been going pretty viral.

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Speaker 1: I'll talk about it in just one moment. But if

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Speaker 1: you saw the Israeli flag, we'll finish that in just second.

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Speaker 1: Just download that into your mind. Yep, we'll be there

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Speaker 1: in just a second. But here's what it's looked like.

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Speaker 1: This is pretty consistent across the last weekend obviously the

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Speaker 1: last weekend before July fourth weekend, and there have been

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Speaker 1: all kinds I think at one point the power went

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Speaker 1: out and all the ice cream melted. So yeah, there

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Speaker 1: have been all kinds of problems and not huge crowds.

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Speaker 1: That may change over the course of the week, but

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Speaker 1: so far just really a smattering of people. That image

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Speaker 1: from inside the tent has been going megaviral of the

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Speaker 1: Israeli flag and the American flag to get under this

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Speaker 1: big tent on the National Mall. You saw the big

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Speaker 1: baptism pool there. I will say that is a tent

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Speaker 1: that is always on the National Mall. They have like

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Speaker 1: some type of permanent permit. It's called David's Tent, and

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Speaker 1: it's I actually don't know much about it.

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Speaker 4: You get a permanent permit.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's actually really odd, like it's always been.

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Speaker 4: There for the always sent for when are we talking Probably.

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Speaker 1: The last like five to ten years. It's been pretty

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Speaker 1: consistently there. So people have said, oh, it must be

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Speaker 1: part of the State Fair, because the Great American State Fair,

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Speaker 1: because it's like an official tent, it's always there.

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Speaker 4: Our administration is going to clean this up.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Platinum would stand for that permanent permit

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Speaker 1: on the National Mall. But yes, if you've seen the

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Speaker 1: pictures going viral now, that doesn't preclude is really flags

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Speaker 1: being in other parts of the Great American State Fair.

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. Not impossible, wouldn't rule it up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I bet if you walk around and see enough of

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Speaker 2: the attendees, you got to have somebody there. You know

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Speaker 2: how they have those shirts that have like the American

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Speaker 2: flag and the Israeli flag put together, that you could

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Speaker 2: find one of those I'm sure it seems like it

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Speaker 2: should be there. Yeah, I mean it, Like I said,

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Speaker 2: it reminds very much of the military parade, which I

548
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Speaker 2: was all like, oh my god, this is going to

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Speaker 2: be some powerful fascist display. And then it was the

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Speaker 2: most embarrassing thing you've ever seen sponsor coin base.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And then the squeaky like old tanks rolling down the

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Speaker 2: street and then just like someone walking holding this tiny drone.

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Speaker 2: It was really pathetic. And this very much has that

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Speaker 2: energy to it. And here's the thing is, Look, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not the biggest like raw raw America kind.

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Speaker 1: Of a gal.

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Speaker 4: There are some things that are special about America.

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Speaker 2: But you know, at our best and the ideals that

560
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Speaker 2: I really do value in treasure and the idea of

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Speaker 2: being a country where we could all come together and

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Speaker 2: celebrate the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, we just feel

563
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Speaker 2: so far from that. Trump of course, had to make

564
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Speaker 2: it all about himself and personalize it the way he

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Speaker 2: does everything makes it political.

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Speaker 4: You had certain states that.

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Speaker 2: Didn't even send any official sort of information or set

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Speaker 2: up their booths officially.

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Speaker 1: This happened even Jos Shapiro in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's right, and North Carolina, which Josh Stein is

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Speaker 2: a Democrat, is the governor of North Carolina. They didn't

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Speaker 2: send an official thing for their little state area, and

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Speaker 2: so some private organizations took control of it, and they.

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Speaker 4: Put up a freaking Confederate flag.

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Speaker 1: We have this is b three like rule this in

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Speaker 1: the background.

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Speaker 2: Let's just pause for a second that at this nation's

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty the anniversary, you are going to

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Speaker 2: put up the flag of a bunch of traders who

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Speaker 2: tried to break up the country, a bunch of immoral,

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Speaker 2: slaveholding traders who tried to destroy the country. And so

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Speaker 2: this became a whole thing. The Washington Post wrote a

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Speaker 2: piece about it. They ultimately were forced to take it down.

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Speaker 2: The fact that this was put up at all is

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Speaker 2: just so embarrassing and egregious. But yeah, it's a sign,

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Speaker 2: i would say, of where we are right now as

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Speaker 2: a nation. It's a sign putting Trump aside. And yes,

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Speaker 2: of course he makes it political and makes it about

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Speaker 2: himself and also executes everything incredibly and competently. Just either

590
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Speaker 2: reflecting Pool for another trivial example of this, but this

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Speaker 2: is an empire that's in decline that people do not

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Speaker 2: feel like things are great and I'm ready to go

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Speaker 2: out cheer for America. And this is part of, frankly,

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Speaker 2: what Trump ran on, I mean, when he ran on

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Speaker 2: American carnage, that was an acknowledgment of how people were

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Speaker 2: starting to feel about this country. And now we have

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Speaker 2: this defeat in a war against Iran, it is becoming

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Speaker 2: abundantly clear that our position in the world is not what.

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Speaker 4: It used to be.

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Speaker 2: So it's sort of appropriate that this is what this lackluster, pathetic, incompetent,

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Speaker 2: cheap flap together display is what we are using to

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Speaker 2: celebrate the two undred and fiftieth anniversary.

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Speaker 1: We have some numbers actually that we'll get to in

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Speaker 1: just one moment on just to put a finer point

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Speaker 1: on the mood of the country that Chris was laying out.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I actually don't dislike the concept of like

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Speaker 1: a great American state fair.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you could actually do that so many

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Speaker 2: wonderful state fairs. I am a fan of a state fair.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and like to have you know, if we

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Speaker 1: were in a different place as a country, to have

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Speaker 1: every state represented would be Actually I think you could

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Speaker 1: do that in a way. That's pretty cool. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if the crowds pick up of the course of the week.

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Speaker 1: I doubt it. It's gonna be so hot. Crystal's having

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Speaker 1: a full meteorology breakdown later in the show, so stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that. But yeah, it's it. Let's let's look

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Speaker 1: at how Fox News handled it. So they've set up

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Speaker 1: a studio on the National Mall. This is something they've

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Speaker 1: been doing more more recently, probably trying to like invigorate

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Speaker 1: the image of the imagery of cable news as podcasting

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Speaker 1: kind of you know, eats away at the audience a bit.

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Speaker 1: But this is B two. This is how Fox News

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Speaker 1: handled it on a broadcast over the weekend.

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Speaker 7: Happy Early Birthday, America.

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Speaker 8: We're celebrating already at the Great American State Fair. Man.

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Speaker 8: We've got thousands of people celebrating this birthday with Asami.

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Speaker 1: You and I had he has to go out.

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Speaker 4: We got to see some of the exhibits. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: you got what I got, which was a lot of

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Speaker 4: people going, hey, love to watch it on Fox.

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Speaker 8: I hope a lot of them left the mall, went

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Speaker 8: home and turned on their TV.

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Speaker 2: In our loveses right now.

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Speaker 1: Thousands Okay, it didn't really it looked more like hundreds

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Speaker 1: in that videos always hard to count these things. Let's

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Speaker 1: put up the next element here before President Trump's highly

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Speaker 1: tied Great American State Fair got off to rough start

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night, with NBC News estimating only slightly over one

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Speaker 1: thousand attendees showed up for the opening rally on the

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Speaker 1: National Mall and Crystal. As you were talking about the

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Speaker 1: mood of the country, it was making me think actually

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Speaker 1: of Ronald Reagan, because Trump took the Reagan slogan about

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Speaker 1: make America great again, repurposed it in twenty sixteen, and

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Speaker 1: thought that he could have that influence on the mood

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Speaker 1: of the country, even though he was always very polarizing.

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Speaker 1: The idea was that he spoke for some type of

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow Nixon imagery silent majority that would be invigorated by

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Speaker 1: his platform and that would unify everyone. Could sort of

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Speaker 1: see finally the unheard people feeling more heard again, and

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Speaker 1: this would have a rally around the flag effect. And

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Speaker 1: during the Reagan administration, I mean, by nineteen eighty four,

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Speaker 1: President Reagan ran like won in a landslide, and that

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Speaker 1: actually did kind of happen. Like whether you like or

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Speaker 1: just like Reagan, the mood of the country over the

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Speaker 1: course of the eighties. Whether we like debating the policy

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Speaker 1: is a different thing. But in that moment that did happen, there.

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Speaker 4: Was like a confidence that came back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, morning in America. Successful Reagan ad campaign. That is

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Speaker 1: not happening for Donald Trump at all at all. It's

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Speaker 1: not happening for Donald Trump in one like that. It's

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Speaker 1: actually going the opposite direction. So this is where you

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Speaker 1: can see his frustration, building, building, building. He put out

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Speaker 1: a true social post over the weekend. This is B five.

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Speaker 1: It is a gargantuan post. This is the one we

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Speaker 1: popped into a word count calculator. Six hundred words according

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Speaker 1: to I wonder if.

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Speaker 4: He's ever written anything longer than this.

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Speaker 1: If you're not watching this, you can barely see the

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Speaker 1: text on the screen because it has to be so small.

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Speaker 1: It begins, I just returned from a tour of very statues, monuments, fountains,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly, an old and run down golf course

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Speaker 1: located through Washington, d c our nation's capital. Almost all

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Speaker 1: the statues, monuments and fountains have been completely renovated and

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Speaker 1: restored and are in after suffering years of graffiti, abuse

676
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Speaker 1: and vandalism, perfect shape. He goes on to say, I

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Speaker 1: mean everything is in here, golf courses, the course architect.

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Speaker 1: He says, it will be built through the department of

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Speaker 1: the Interior and designed to the highest standards of golf,

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Speaker 1: but also in such a way that the general public

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Speaker 1: will love it. Thank you for your attention to this matter, Chris,

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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, he's talking about East Potomac Golf Course, which,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't been to DC, it's like a cheap,

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Speaker 1: fun local course. Like it's actually it has its own

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Speaker 1: little charm to it. People are very worried that he's

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Speaker 1: gonna totally like upend that it is a beautiful piece

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Speaker 1: of land. I don't even know why I'm getting stuck

688
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Speaker 1: in this conversation about the golf course. I could see it,

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Speaker 1: you do it right, Like, I could see it being

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Speaker 1: pretty cool because you have a view of the National Mall.

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Speaker 1: It's actually already kind of cool, though, I get why

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Speaker 1: people are again, I don't know why I'm talking about this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have never played golf there because I just

694
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Speaker 2: took up golf relatively recently.

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Speaker 4: But that area too is very popular with cyclists.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's like a sort of like a loop

697
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Speaker 2: you can do that's relatively long, that doesn't have much traffic,

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Speaker 2: and so in any case, he wants to change all

699
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Speaker 2: of that. But the more to the point, how do

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Speaker 2: you feel about the golf course and the cyclists? This

701
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Speaker 2: is what he spends his time on, like genuinely. And

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Speaker 2: this was something else we got from Maggie Haberman and

703
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Speaker 2: Jonathan's one which is abundantly clear. Washington posted an analysis

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Speaker 2: of what he talks about the most, and it's the ballroom.

705
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Speaker 2: Like the ballroom, the Arcta trump now, the golf course,

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Speaker 2: is the reflecting pool. These are the things that he

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Speaker 2: is fixated on and genuinely spends heat. This is the

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Speaker 2: most powerful man on the planet. He is the commander

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Speaker 2: in chief. We are continuing in this sort of like

710
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Speaker 2: maybe we're in a war situation. There are a lot

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Speaker 2: of big problems going on in the world, and he

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Speaker 2: is fixated on the color of the reflecting pool and

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Speaker 2: the you know, further gilding the white House and the

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Speaker 2: ballroom and picking out the tile for the walkway. This

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Speaker 2: is what he spends his time on. And it does

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Speaker 2: make a sort of sense with him, given both that

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Speaker 2: is his background is developing and he obviously has an

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Speaker 2: interest in the fixtures of his buildings whatever, but also

719
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Speaker 2: because he wants to leave this indelible mark on the world,

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Speaker 2: and specifically right now on DC, so that when he

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Speaker 2: is gone, people will have to remember that he was there.

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Speaker 2: So so much of this term has been spent on

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Speaker 2: these physical, you know, manifestations of his power. That's what

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Speaker 2: he is trying to impress upon this city and upon

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Speaker 2: the world, and to tie it in with the Iran war,

726
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: which obviously vastly more consequential here. That is how he

727
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Speaker 2: was persuaded to get us into this disastrous mess to

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Speaker 2: start with. Because he wants to be this world historic figure.

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Speaker 2: This is what again Maggie Habraman Johnson SWA talked about.

730
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Speaker 2: He wants to shape the world in a way that

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Speaker 2: is undeniable, that makes him consequential.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's already done that. He has done it.

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Speaker 2: He has absolutely done it, and he would I probably

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Speaker 2: prefer that at the end of all of that people go,

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Speaker 2: and it was good that he did that, but if

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Speaker 2: they go, and that was horrific, but he genuinely did

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Speaker 2: change the world. He would rather have that than have

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Speaker 2: just been a sort of unremarkable blip.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's also part of it is he

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Speaker 1: sees it as easier, like it's easier for him to

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Speaker 1: come in and do landscaping in Washington, d C. Some

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Speaker 1: of which is genuinely like the fountain at Union Station

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Speaker 1: looks beautiful. Just drove past it this morning. Wonderful. Thank

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Speaker 1: you mister President.

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Speaker 4: The voter for this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, it is like it looks good. But

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Speaker 1: that allows him. Then I think he sees this is

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Speaker 1: that allowing him to say, well, how could you possibly

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Speaker 1: have a problem with this beautiful, restored fountain in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. How could you possibly have a problem with

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Speaker 1: the beautification of Washington, d C. And he thinks then

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Speaker 1: it makes it look like he is doing work for

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Speaker 1: the people, and everyone opposed to that can't even say

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Speaker 1: a nice thing about a fountain. And so it's kind

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Speaker 1: of like this. He's historically been good at kind of

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Speaker 1: setting traps for his opponents in the battle of public opinion.

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Speaker 1: And I think he thought he set up something that

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Speaker 1: was really good here. But when you combine it with

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Speaker 1: all of the self dealing enrichment, like the Albanians out

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Speaker 1: in the street in the thousands, protesting the Avanka and

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Speaker 1: Jared investment project. That's in another country, obviously, but I think,

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Speaker 1: especially after the midterms, if Democrats retake the House, maybe

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Speaker 1: even the Senate, but if they have like subpoena powers,

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Speaker 1: the new cycle is going to be focused every day

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Speaker 1: on these self corruption stories or these self dealing corruption stories.

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Speaker 1: And when you couple the literal guilding with and at

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Speaker 1: a certain point, it does start to look obviously almost

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Speaker 1: like He's not almost, but it does start to look

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Speaker 1: very egotistical and narcissistic. It is for us, like, obviously

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Speaker 1: we get that, but if you're a casual observer of

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Speaker 1: the news, you start to see a lot of it happening.

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Speaker 1: And then you couple that with gas prices being extremely high,

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Speaker 1: this war looking like a mess, being at war period.

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Speaker 1: That is not going to work in the way that

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Speaker 1: Trump thinks it was going to work.

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Speaker 2: Let me strike a contrast that will help to set

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Speaker 2: us up for the next block, which is Zora to

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Speaker 2: spend a lot of time in New York City thinking

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Speaker 2: about beautification.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and a New York.

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Speaker 2: Post is very upset about him for jumping in the

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Speaker 2: pool to mark the beginning of the pool season in

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Speaker 2: New York City. But his beautification is very much centered

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Speaker 2: around I want to make the city wonderful for you

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Speaker 2: to enjoy, for the residents of the city to enjoy,

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Speaker 2: for the visitors who come to the city to enjoy.

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Speaker 2: Put together this whole online schedule of here's various free

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Speaker 2: events throughout the city that will help you enjoy it

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Speaker 2: throughout the summer. So it's about here's what we're doing

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Speaker 2: to make the city wonderful because we care about you

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Speaker 2: versus Trump.

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Speaker 4: This is all about him, right.

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Speaker 2: Sure, it's nice to see the Union Station fountain made

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Speaker 2: beautiful again, which I haven't seen, so I haven't checked

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Speaker 2: it out. I can't render a decision here myself, but

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Speaker 2: it is very clear that in all of these monuments

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Speaker 2: he's building to himself in a literal ballroom that he

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00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: can't stop talking about. These are things that he wants

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Speaker 2: for his ego. It is not making the life of

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Speaker 2: Americans better. It's not even making life of people in

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Speaker 2: the city better. In fact, it's causing them certain problems.

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Speaker 2: So that is really the distinction in the way that

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Speaker 2: they're operating.

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Speaker 1: And Union Station is a really interesting example. Again, I

805
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: don't know why we keep taking this bait, but I

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Speaker 1: will take it because I am a petty bitch. The

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Speaker 1: weekend that they reopen to the fountain, which does really

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Speaker 1: look good, and it's something that should have been done

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. It was I think, really pathetic

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Speaker 1: that the way we let are the gateway for so

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Speaker 1: many people to the capital of the United States become

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Speaker 1: totally decruptive. That looked really, really bad, and the fountain

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Speaker 1: looks excellent. Just within like forty eight hours of them

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Speaker 1: having this big ribbon cutting ceremony, I went down there

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Speaker 1: and was taking it like it's still there's a literal

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Speaker 1: shit on the ground in front of the door to

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Speaker 1: Union Station, So like you can focus on the fountain

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Speaker 1: all you want, but there are not a lot of

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Speaker 1: structural change happening. And that's actually, I think a decent

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Speaker 1: metaphor for what he's doing, like liberal guilding all over

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Speaker 1: the White House. He was talking about why he went

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Speaker 1: to Versailles because that's real gold last week, remember, like

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Speaker 1: he was literally saying, they have real gold at Versailles.

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Speaker 1: That's that's not gilded, that's real gold.

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Speaker 2: Cyr's been making the Versailles comparison for quite a while.

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Speaker 4: Yes, at this spoiled it.

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Speaker 2: But and here's the other thing you talked about, how

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Speaker 2: you think he felt that he was setting up like

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Speaker 2: a trap for his opponents of like, they can't even

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Speaker 2: give me credit for the fountain. Yeah, that it is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: They hate me so much. I also think that these

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Speaker 2: are things that he can control, yes, yes, which is

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Speaker 2: also part of why. And Trump is not unique in

834
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Speaker 2: this as presidents. Now that he has lost he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have much ability to control. Well, I mean, Congress will

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Speaker 2: pretty much do what he wants, but you've got a

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Speaker 2: filibuster there. He's preferred to take just executive action. There

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Speaker 2: is some limit to what you can do through executive action.

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Speaker 2: He's very unpopular, you know. His immigration agenda even has

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Speaker 2: been subject to a massive backlash, and he had to

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Speaker 2: pull back on some of the more maximalist aims of that.

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Speaker 2: In any case, the things that he can control are

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Speaker 2: foreign policy has tons of power, and these like local

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Speaker 2: beautification projects because of the nature of DC and the

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Speaker 2: way that the city is structured.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's what he sort of collapsed to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's a great point because actually Mike Johnson

848
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Speaker 1: today is going to send this bipartisan Tim Scott Elizabeth

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Speaker 1: Warren Housing Bill to Trump's desk. Trump has said he's

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Speaker 1: not going to sign it unless it's coupled with Congress

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Speaker 1: passing the Save Act. Yes, the Housing bill is I

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Speaker 1: mean that it's actually politically a very good piece of legislation. Yes.

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Speaker 1: And if he is right now so frustrated that he's

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Speaker 1: holding that bill hostage to the Save Act, I think

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Speaker 1: it speaks to this like much deeper frustration with Congress's

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Speaker 1: willingness to actually like get on board with what he

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Speaker 1: wants to see them doing. Obviously, to Crystal's point, there

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Speaker 1: is a filibuster. But we have a couple more headlines

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Speaker 1: to get to too, and just let's put B six

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Speaker 1: for better or Worse up on the screen. Headline In

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Speaker 1: the Daily Mail, Magafan accused of masturbating at Donald Trump's

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Speaker 1: Great American State Fair.

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Speaker 2: Oh and this isn't setback that event that isn't set back,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And this is not just any Magafan. He apparently is

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Speaker 2: an influencer. He was live streaming around the time of

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Speaker 2: this incident. There were several women, reportedly some of them

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Speaker 2: were performing and they were like dancers, and they were

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Speaker 2: performing and they saw him apparently pleasuring himself and told

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Speaker 2: the cops, and the cops got involved, and then he

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Speaker 2: started this whole like free Manny campaign and his followers

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Speaker 2: were like, oh, he was wrongly acute.

874
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Speaker 4: He's being persecuted for his political views.

875
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is trust you see what are we

876
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: talking about here?

877
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: But anyway, us for America.

878
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he lusts, He lusts for America. Unlike you, Christian Yeah,

879
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: unlike me.

880
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: Definitely unlike me.

881
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: All right, B seven, let's roll through some of those

882
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: numbers as probable.

883
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 4: Plet cleanser here.

884
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: A little more, andison you want to feel better to

885
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: the country.

886
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: CBS News has new bowling out what's best about the

887
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: American way of life? Forty four percent of people say

888
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: people in America twenty percent land resources and climate, seventeen percent,

889
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: economic system, trade and business, ten percent system of government.

890
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 2: That's not a resounding, not a resounding yes for the

891
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: American system.

892
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: I've ever man, sure isn't. We can keep moving here.

893
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: We've got all kinds of different slides. What is America's

894
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: greatest invention? Democracy slash freedom running two points head of

895
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: the light.

896
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: Bulb, Which makes sense since we didn't actually invent democracy

897
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 2: or freedom. But you know, I like I like the energy,

898
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: I like the spirit of that.

899
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: There you go. Ten percent of the Internet. I will

900
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: who is saying that? Oh that's not that is like

901
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: our worst invention? Six percent automobile, five percent telephone, four

902
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: percent airplane. Interesting. Soccer would be absolutely all over this

903
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: if he were here, he would be in a debate.

904
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: That would be an epic historic world historic breaking points debate.

905
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to say, I don't know what I

906
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: would even say for this.

907
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: What are we best at?

908
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: Light bulb is not a bad answer, Actually it's a.

909
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: Pretty good one. Fifty eight percent say we're best at movies.

910
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: In Dallas, social security, that's our best invention.

911
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Oh, there you go. Fifty six percent say technology and innovation.

912
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: Forty one percent say music, thirty eight percent, sports, thirty

913
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: one percent food. Do we have another one? Guys?

914
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: We keep Yeah, we got too.

915
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: Which food best represents America? Thirty three percent hamburgers twenty

916
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: five percent, barbecue nineteen percent, apple pie forty percent, hot dog,

917
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: six percent pizza. I think barbecue is the appropriate answer, right, I.

918
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: Think hamburger is just when you think of, like, how

919
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 2: dominant McDonald's is both here and globally. It's like one

920
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: of our chief exports is our horrendous diet. Ye, so yeah,

921
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: probably hamburgers.

922
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but barbecue is like the best of the America.

923
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 2: Yes, it's more yeah, sort of aspirational.

924
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: Uniquely American, really really good. Yes, that's okay, So we

925
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: were agreed on that. Are you excited about the upcoming

926
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: America to fifty celebrations? Twenty three percent say very excited,

927
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: twenty nine percent say somewhat excited, forty seven percent say

928
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: not too excited or not at all excited. I think

929
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: we were one more here. Will you fly the US

930
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: flag at home on the fourth of July? Forty eight

931
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: percent say yes, fifty two percent say no. In Crystal,

932
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: I think this is actually an interesting question because, particularly

933
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: because people our age don't have houses to fly a flag.

934
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: Outside of speaking of the housing it if you're living

935
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: in an apartment, you don't have a flapool, and a

936
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: lot of people, especially like gen Z and younger millennials,

937
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: want to have houses, but don't have houses, and so

938
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: they're not even going to have the option to fly

939
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: a flag unless it means like sticking one too your

940
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: apartment window.

941
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is a sign of the times and

942
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 2: the declining vibe in the country that a majority are

943
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: like four even on the fourth of July, they're like, no,

944
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 2: not flying the flag.

945
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: That's I was.

946
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: None of us were alive, you know, hosts on this

947
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: show for the two hundred year, the bi centennial. But

948
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 2: from the historical reviews that I've seen, people in the

949
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: country were genuinely excited. There were not just events here,

950
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: but there were events in towns across the country.

951
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 4: It was a whole thing.

952
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: And we're just, you know, we're just not there mentally anymore.

953
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: You know, I haven't in my normal life, I haven't

954
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: talked to anyone about the Oh my god, the two

955
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth celebration.

956
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 4: What are you going to do to celebrate?

957
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: It is just not really something that is center of

958
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 2: mind for people or something that they're super enthusiastic about.

959
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and people will probably increasingly as this discourse escalates

960
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: over the course of the week, blame podcasters and populists

961
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: for this. And I just want to say, if that's

962
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: your instinct, you're losing the mood of the country enormously.

963
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: Like this is totally a bottom up, not top down phenomena.

964
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons that actually, when

965
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: you and Soccer started hosting the show a long time ago,

966
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: that you guys tapped into something is because you were

967
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: picking up on a sentiment that a lot of the

968
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: rest of the elite media was not, and it was Again,

969
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: that's just an example of how it's bottom up and

970
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: not top down. So you can blame people all you

971
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: want in the media or in populist spaces, but it's

972
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: completely I mean, Bernie Sanders almost beat Hillary Clinton in

973
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Donald Trump did beat Hillary Clinton in twenty

974
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: sixteen by talking about American carnage. So, yes, like people

975
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: are not the sentiment when it's actually kind of self defeating.

976
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 1: If you think about Donald Trump being the man who

977
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 1: actually pointed out American carnage and then turning your around

978
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: and looking at why people aren't happy about America's two

979
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: hundred and fiftieth birthday, there's a contradiction and or retention

980
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: in that.

981
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, well, he sees it as a verdict on him,

982
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: which in a way it is, because you did promise

983
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: that you would make America great again and restore that

984
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: vibe in that confidence and that obviously hasn't happened, and

985
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: it's not unique to America. I think the entire sort

986
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: of Western world is you have this yo yo effect

987
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: of people who are very unhappy.

988
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 4: They're looking for change.

989
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: You know, they're ping ponging between different candidates, looking for

990
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: something to be different, and have yet to find an

991
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: answer to the frustrations that they have with the current system.

992
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: And great segue to the next segment. Crystal on Zoramm

993
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Donnie's Sunday Show appearance this weekend.

994
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: Fresh off some highly significant political victories a last week

995
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 2: and off also off of a highly significant policy victories,

996
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: or on Mom, Donnie Mayor of New York City sat

997
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 2: down with Jonathan Carl for what was a very interesting

998
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 2: let's take a listen to some of those highlights.

999
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 8: Republicans are going to make you the poster child for

1000
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 8: the Democratic Party.

1001
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 9: Let them. We don't have to ask ourselves what life

1002
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 9: looks like if a socialist wins. I won last November,

1003
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 9: and over the course of these last six months, what

1004
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 9: we've delivered for working people are the very things we

1005
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 9: were told were impossible. We've delivered free childcare for two

1006
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 9: year olds, for the first time in New York City history.

1007
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 9: We've delivered tens of millions of dollars back to tenants

1008
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 9: who were taken advantage of by bad landlords. We've delivered

1009
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 9: one hundred and sixty five thousand potholes being paved, and

1010
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 9: we've done all of these things while also delivering the

1011
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 9: lowest recorded crime in our city's history. That's what it

1012
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 9: looks like to have democratic socialism. And what you're seeing

1013
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 9: is that New Yorkers experienced this for six months and

1014
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 9: made the decision that they wanted to see more of

1015
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 9: it on the national stage as well.

1016
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 8: And you're hearing some not just dismissive though, there's resentment.

1017
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 8: And this is from fellow Democrats who think that this

1018
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 8: could jeopardize democratic chances in the fall. I mean, you've

1019
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 8: got Josh Gottheimer, Democratic member of Congress. So many of

1020
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 8: us believe, as do I. If you're a socialist, you

1021
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 8: are not a Democrat. And in fact, they put out

1022
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 8: a manifesto today and have you seen this thing sounds

1023
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 8: pretty socialist to me. It's not a communist manifesto. It's

1024
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 8: a moderate manifesto saying we are capitalists and not socialists.

1025
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 8: We believe in a growing, fair and competitive economy, entrepreneurship, ownership.

1026
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 8: I mean, this is a direct response. They've made it

1027
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 8: clear to what you did here on Tuesday.

1028
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 9: Well, you know that's great, But what's a party if

1029
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 9: not it's voters. And I'm proud to sit in front

1030
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 9: of you as the mayor of our city having received

1031
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 9: more than a million votes a little over a little

1032
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 9: less than a year ago. And when we're talking about

1033
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 9: these incredible congressional candidates, they won their races, and they

1034
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 9: won their races with the vision of what politics should

1035
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 9: be and one that actually speaks to working people. And

1036
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 9: for a lot of people who ask themselves what does

1037
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 9: democratic socialism mean? And you can tell them the answer.

1038
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 9: At a theoretical level, it's the choice to extend democracy.

1039
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: From the ballot box the rest of their lives.

1040
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 9: But in terms of what it means, over these last

1041
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 9: seven months, we've seen a city with democratic socialist principles

1042
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 9: at the heart of it within our administration, and what

1043
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 9: we've delivered has been record lows when it comes to

1044
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 9: murders and shootings.

1045
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 8: So is it pragmatic democratic socialism?

1046
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 9: I think democratic socialism at the heart is.

1047
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: Pragmatic and I actually think that is a good characterization

1048
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,879
Speaker 2: of how he has governed pragmatic democratic socialism and what

1049
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: he says there is actually really important. He's basically like, show,

1050
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: don't tell, right. I delivered free two K preschool. I

1051
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 2: delivered all these potholes, filled all these millions back from

1052
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: bad landlords.

1053
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 4: Now he's got his rent freeze.

1054
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: You have all of these beautification projects going on in

1055
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 2: New York City that make the public see what his

1056
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: governance has meant. He has an extraordinary communication style, so

1057
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: they're very much aware of what he is doing with

1058
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: regard to them. He comes up with these things, you

1059
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 2: know that he'll do that. You're just like, why did

1060
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: no one ever think of that? You know, in his

1061
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: first I think week of governance, he pressure washed the

1062
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: entire subway just to make it a little bit nicer

1063
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: for New Yorkers and people who are visiting. I mentioned before,

1064
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: they put together a whole calendar of Okay, here's all

1065
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: the free events in the city. I mean that does

1066
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: takes very little, especially with AI, to be able to

1067
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: pull together. But just thinking about how are people going

1068
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 2: to experience the city and what is it going to

1069
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,959
Speaker 2: be like? And so now rather than having this sort

1070
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: of theoretical ideological debate about what it would mean to

1071
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: have this type of governance, he can say just look here,

1072
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: this is what it means. And you can bet if

1073
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: it had been a mess and of failure, all the

1074
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 2: Josh Gotttheimer's and everybody else of the world would be saying, see,

1075
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: this is what it means when you have socialist governance.

1076
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: So but on the count, on the contrary, he is

1077
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: able to offer this up as a model of hey,

1078
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: this is not that scary, like people were freaking out

1079
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: about me being mayor.

1080
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 4: And guess what. The longer I'm int of office, the.

1081
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 2: Higher my approval rating goes, the more people like what

1082
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: is on offer here. And this is what democratic socialism

1083
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 2: actually means in practice.

1084
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's put c sex, this's tump ahead here up

1085
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: on the screen. There's a new poll actually that found

1086
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: Mom Donnie's favorability rating is jumping. So this is from

1087
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: USA today. It's a Sienna University poll. They report it

1088
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: showed that Mam Donnie's favorability edged up from earlier this year.

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Speaker 1: And the Siena poll, which was conducted the seventeenth to

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Speaker 1: twenty third of this month, among eleven hundred New York

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Speaker 1: State registered voters looked at the favorability of local legislature assembly.

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Speaker 1: It's found that since April, Mom Donnie's favorability has gone up.

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00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: His favorability is at forty five to thirty four percent.

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00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: That's an increase from April where it was at forty

1095
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: three to forty percent. In New York City, his favorability

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00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: is actually fifty eight percent to twenty six percent, which

1097
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 1: is up from fifty six to thirty four percent. So actually,

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Speaker 1: just even looking at that change from thirty four percent

1099
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: unfavorable to twenty six percent unfavorable, that's even more significant

1100
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Speaker 1: from the two point jump of people who find him favorable.

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Speaker 4: Sue so Big.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's to your point. He's what like six

1103
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Speaker 1: months in, so there's a long time ago in his term.

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Speaker 1: But for six months, it looks like people are responding

1105
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: favorably in your city.

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Speaker 2: Okay to the experiment, Yeah, no, that's absolutely right. And

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00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: I just I think it's so funny for him to

1108
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 2: be making fun of the Centrist Manifesto too, because it

1109
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: is so socialist coded to be like, oh, we have

1110
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: our manifesto of our twelve principles, or whatever, and he's like,

1111
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: I don't really have time to read your manifesto, but

1112
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: I delivered low crime rates, and your potholes are filled,

1113
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: and your kids can go to preschool when they're two

1114
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: years old, and you can you know, it's free, you

1115
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 2: can afford to live here again.

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00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 4: Working in that direction, you know, we froze the rent.

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00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: And that was one of the This was a major

1118
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: major win for him because I don't know if you

1119
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 2: guys remember, but right after he got elected, there was

1120
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: some member of the Housing Board that was adversarial to him,

1121
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: it looked like and Eric Adams was trying to screw

1122
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: him over in terms of being able to get his

1123
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: rent freeze, while Zorn was able to work politically behind

1124
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 2: the scenes to make sure that he got what he

1125
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: wanted from the Housing Board and was able just to

1126
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: announce that for two years, for two million apartments in

1127
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: New York City rent stabilized apartments in New York City,

1128
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: the rent will in fact be frozen.

1129
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 4: This is C two. Let's take a look New York.

1130
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 9: The Independent Rent Guidelines Board just froze the rent. That means,

1131
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 9: if you want of the more than two million New

1132
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 9: Yorkers who lives in a rent stabilized apartment, your rent's

1133
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 9: going to be frozen next year.

1134
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 2: So for all the people who were like, oh, he's

1135
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to deliver all of this hope,

1136
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: and you guys are going to be disappointed. I don't

1137
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 2: think the people that voted for him are too disappointed

1138
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 2: right now.

1139
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 4: Not to say that he's not a magician.

1140
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 2: You know, the housing prices are not going to come

1141
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 2: down in New York City overnight. But you can see

1142
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 2: on his key promises, which he was very clear about

1143
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: what they are, he is notching win after win.

1144
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's an example of something where you and

1145
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: I would probably disagree on how it plays out over time,

1146
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: and I could see it hurting him ultimately in the

1147
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: next couple of years, but it will take a long time.

1148
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: And also, by the way, just people have to remember

1149
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: that if the alternative looks like it's worse, then what

1150
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: happens under mom Donnie with the rent freeze. I'm really

1151
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: skeptical of rent freezes, especially for people who live in

1152
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: lower income housing that end up because the landlords already

1153
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: suck in so many cases having even less nice accommodations,

1154
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: like at having even more things that go unrepaired. All

1155
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: that is to say, if the alternative, though feels like

1156
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: even less hopeful, then he will still have success with

1157
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 1: the rent freeze the politics of it, because people at

1158
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: least say he's doing something. And historically that's where I mean.

1159
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: The entire philosophy of communism and socialism emerged during an

1160
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: incredibly bleak period, literally Deckenzian period of rapid industrialization that

1161
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: was leaving a lot of people out while a lot

1162
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: of people were thriving. If you go back and you

1163
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: look at I shouldn't say a lot of people, a

1164
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: few people were thriving. And if you go back and

1165
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: look at the way that Gilded Age, like quote robber

1166
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 1: barons were coping at that time, they were starting to realize,

1167
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: like decades into that experiment, holy smokes, we are our

1168
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: biggest enemies because we have turned like some of the

1169
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: sharper ones. We're noticing that we have turned people into

1170
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: enemies of the system that we're thriving off of. And

1171
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: some of them tried to atone for that and do

1172
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: different things. Whether they were sincere is a different question,

1173
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: but they realized that oftentimes the capitalists were the biggest

1174
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: enemies of capitalism. It wasn't the communists and socialists. Was

1175
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: the capitalists who were creating the communists and the socialists

1176
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: by benefiting off of the system and perpetuating the system.

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00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: And so if the alternative still looks worse, people will

1178
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: be like still clinging to socialism, maybe even communism because

1179
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: it feels like a better option.

1180
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: Well, and because there was such a freak out over

1181
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 2: Zorn and continues to be by the way, I'm about

1182
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: to play you some Josh Shapiro comments. You know, it

1183
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, there's going to be Charia

1184
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 2: law and read Leye executions, and so they're gonna be breadlines.

1185
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 4: They literally they literally.

1186
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: Thought like said that that would be the case. And

1187
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 2: instead it's like, no, he seems like a charming guy

1188
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: who's just like doing his best in the city, and

1189
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: people seem pretty happy in the next one, and you know,

1190
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: like the vibe is very positive. It does it kind

1191
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: of all goes. Everyone is looking at New York City.

1192
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean I can tell you me personally, I'm like,

1193
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: oh my god, I wish I still live there.

1194
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: So much fun.

1195
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 4: Everybody's happy. It's going really well.

1196
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 2: So all of the doom and gloom that was supposed

1197
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: to befall and everybody is going to leave the city

1198
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: and it's going to be chaos, etc.

1199
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 4: That obviously has not come to pass.

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00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: Yes, but Ken Griffin is very uneasy because now people

1201
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: know where his penthouse is.

1202
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 4: My heartbreaks for him.

1203
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: My heartbreaks for Ken Griffin and all of the landlords

1204
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: of New York City. I'm so so sad for the

1205
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: people who you know, bought property in the nineteen seventy

1206
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: is when it costs three pennies and now are multi millionaires.

1207
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 4: And like a strawberry, Yeah right exactly.

1208
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: I'm really, I'm really my heartbreaks for you, guys. Let's

1209
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: take a listen to Josh Peros, obviously fellow Democrat governor

1210
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: of the state of Pennsylvania, and how he characterizes Zorn's approach.

1211
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: Here, Democratic voters in New York chose three candidates back.

1212
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: By Zaora Mumdani, far left and Democratic socialist candidates.

1213
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: What message do you take from that about where your

1214
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: pony is.

1215
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 10: Well, you know, those were races and individual districts in

1216
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 10: a whole other state.

1217
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing very.

1218
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 10: Different looking congressional races and certainly different Democratic candidates here.

1219
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: In Pennsylvania.

1220
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 5: I think what is important are the people who are

1221
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 5: making a lot of laws, who are engaging in these

1222
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 5: performing politics, have to now figure out how to deliver results.

1223
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 7: It's one thing to speak in platitudes.

1224
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 5: During a campaign.

1225
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 7: It's a whole other thing to actually deliver for people

1226
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 7: who are genuinely hurting, who genuinely need to see cost

1227
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 7: of living go down, meaning their ability to make ends meet,

1228
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 7: you know, go off. Fixing a broken healthcare system, reining

1229
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 7: in access, is being able to give people the promise

1230
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 7: of liberty that.

1231
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 5: We've talked about.

1232
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 10: I think we as a party need to find our

1233
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 10: way to any candidates who actually can deliver for people

1234
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 10: and make their lives better.

1235
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: Performative politics, We've got to find a way to actually deliver.

1236
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean that's what Zoren is showing, like, Okay, well,

1237
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: I delivered my run freeze, I delivered my free two K.

1238
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: You know, they're moving forward with the grocery stores that

1239
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: were promised this pilot program. So he's saying I am

1240
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: actually delivering and just a fact check too on his Well,

1241
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: Pennsylvania is different. Pennsylvania is about to have two of

1242
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: the most left wing congressional representatives in the country. Chris

1243
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: Rabin Philly in summerly is already there in Pittsburgh, so

1244
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: you know him attempting to hope well Pennsylvanias said, Oh

1245
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 2: this New York City is this just like weird place.

1246
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: I'm we don't really have to pay attention to it.

1247
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: New York City is also the home of Chuck Schumer

1248
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 2: and HIKEM Jeffries, the leaders of the party.

1249
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 4: It makes it very hard to.

1250
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: Dismiss as some weird one off, especially when you couple

1251
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: it with what happened in the main primary. Especially when

1252
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: you couple with what is happening in the Michigan primary.

1253
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 4: You're going to dismiss Michigan.

1254
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, this pie in the sky, like weird,

1255
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: you know, one off sort of a situation becomes increasingly

1256
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: difficult for people like him to dismiss that. You know,

1257
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: his politics, the way that he has positioned himself is

1258
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 2: increasingly out of step with at least where the Democratic

1259
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: but more dramatically with where the public is at large.

1260
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 2: And look, he's very popular in Pennsylvania. People are happy

1261
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 2: with his governance there. But I think when he goes

1262
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: to run for president, he's going to find that his

1263
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: positions are not tenable in a Democratic Party that wants

1264
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 2: to see a lot more fight, that wants to see

1265
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: a very different orientation viz. Of the Israel that wants

1266
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: to see the fight taken to the oligard class as well,

1267
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: and he has not shown that he is that candidate.

1268
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: It does remind me a little bit of the Tea

1269
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: Party movement era, when it was like, you know, Rand

1270
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: Paul's winning in Kentucky and Marco Rubio in Florida and

1271
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: all of these Tea Party races around the country. You

1272
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: had the Dave Bratwynn in Virginia, and you could say, oh,

1273
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: these are just the red states, and then honestly, what

1274
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: was it twenty ten? Scott Walker won in a very

1275
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: pro labor historically a very pro labor state, Wisconsin. Yeah,

1276
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: it was not just relegated to some of the deepest

1277
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: red places in the country wherepublican voters were able to

1278
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: make persuasive cases because people were furious about Obama. And

1279
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 1: that was not just in deep red Kentucky. That had

1280
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: ramifications around the country too. And I think to some

1281
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: extpt what Jos Shapiro is missing is that some of

1282
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: his kind of ideological enemies inside his own camp are

1283
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: better reading the mood of the country.

1284
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt about it. Chris rob in Philadelphia

1285
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 2: was in a very difficult primary against two candidates who

1286
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: had sort of more establishment backing, and he didn't just win,

1287
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 2: he won overwhelmingly. And that's another thing that I want

1288
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 2: to dig into more. I might do a monologue on

1289
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 2: this this week. I'm suddenly feeling very like monologue inspired

1290
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: at this moment. But you know, the knock which has

1291
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: had legitimacy on DSA and the Bernie wing more broadly

1292
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 2: of the party, because not all these candids we are

1293
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: talking about are technically DSA, but the knock on them

1294
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 2: has been that they have been unable to reach outside

1295
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: of this sort of like white activist space. Now, it's

1296
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: always been a bit of bullshit. Bernie, for example, did

1297
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: really well with a multi racial cold, especially at the

1298
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: younger level. He won Latinos overwhelmingly, but older black voters

1299
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: were and I think continue to be a genuine stumbling block,

1300
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 2: and so there was a lot of attacks on you

1301
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,919
Speaker 2: just have these like college educated young white people, more

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Speaker 2: affluent that they can afford to sort of dabble in

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Speaker 2: these radical politics like this radical. Yeah, but it's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, the the Brooklyn Commy Corridor, right, that was

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Speaker 2: sort of the that was the knock on DSA from

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Speaker 2: a coalition a coalitional perspective. Now you have a bunch

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Speaker 2: of right wingers like Stephen Miller and Matt Walsh and

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Speaker 2: Jesse Waters who are saying, oh, no, the problem is

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Speaker 2: that there's too many like black and brown immigrants who are.

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Speaker 4: Voting for them.

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Speaker 2: And obviously, you know, it's disgusting and it's racist, That's.

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Speaker 4: What goes without saying.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's noteworthy that they had to shift

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01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 2: because guess what the coalition is growing.

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Speaker 4: You know, Daria Lasa's district, which.

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Speaker 2: Is one I actually used to live in and I'm

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Speaker 2: quite familiar with, And this is very diverse district. You

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Speaker 2: cannot win just with like Columbia students who are not

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Speaker 2: even there at the moment to come.

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Speaker 4: Out and vote.

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Speaker 2: Most of them are you know, home and schools not

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Speaker 2: in session. It is a you know, a very split

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Speaker 2: demographically district. You have to win a lot black voters.

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Speaker 2: It looks like she want a majority of black voters.

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Speaker 4: And even though.

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Speaker 2: Espaiot is the co chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus

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Speaker 2: and thought he had a lock on the Dominican voters

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Speaker 2: in this district. She came very close to fifty to

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 2: fifty with him, even with Hispanic voters in the district

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Speaker 2: was she got like forty seven percent. So as DSA grows,

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Speaker 2: as you have more figures like Zoron that make it

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Speaker 2: less like a scary, weird radical.

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Speaker 1: Thing, it's really him.

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Speaker 4: I mean he is so genuinely is a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: Because now when you think of this wing of politics,

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Speaker 2: that's who you think of, and you're like, you're telling me,

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Speaker 2: this guy's terrifying.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: And so you have a very different situation as that

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01:03:55,800 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: coalition grows and expands, and the limitations that existed previously

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Speaker 2: start to fall away, as you start to make inroads

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Speaker 2: with a larger demographic group, and as the housing crunch

1343
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: and all of the affordability crisis and the concerns over

1344
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 2: the wars and all of these things hit home with everyone,

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01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: regardless of your skin color or your background, even you know,

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01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 2: increasingly up the income ladder, whether you're college educator or

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01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 2: non college educated, you're going to have more of a

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01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 2: cohesive base that you could draw from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's clear that DSA is learning a lot from

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01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: especially the Zorn exam. It's not the same DSA of

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01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 1: like twenty eighteen by any means, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: the right is at all prepared for what that means.

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Speaker 1: I think voters, Mom, Donnie, I think played a really

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01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: big role in giving voters like permission to feel, what's

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01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: the best way to put it, like it was mainstream

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Speaker 1: to get behind some of these different candidates that are

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01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: just treated as though they're not mainstream, and in some

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01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: cases they genuinely are not mainstream. Maybe in Brooklyn, but

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about the entire country, they're closer to

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Speaker 1: the mainstream on questions like healthcare then a lot of

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01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: the quote unquote like centrists actually are. But I think

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01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: it was like a cultural permission instructor.

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Speaker 4: It also looks like it's fun to be involved with.

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Speaker 1: It, which is so different than twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 4: It looks like so different.

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Speaker 2: You know, the cool kids are here, Like it looks

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 2: like it would be fun to go out in canvas

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01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 2: for a DSA candidate. And you know, that's one thing

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01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 2: that he has really brought to as approach to government's

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Speaker 2: very communal approach, which actually, we can put up our

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Speaker 2: last piece here on the screen, puts C three up

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Speaker 2: on the screen.

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Speaker 4: So this is a tradition in New York City.

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Speaker 2: The mayor always, I guess, shows up and jumps in

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Speaker 2: the pool at the opening for the pool.

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Speaker 4: Season in New York City.

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Speaker 2: Zoron, I need to check with Sager how he's going

1378
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 2: to feel about this, because he wore a full suit

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Speaker 2: and tie. Good check mark, but it's in violation of

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Speaker 2: the dress code for the swimming pool. So we get

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01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: an X on that from Sager. But in any case,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's like a sort of silly way. It's

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: very consistent with his brand. It gets draws more attention

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01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 2: to this opening. New York Posts was very mad about

1385
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 2: this funny to put those stuff.

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01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 4: On the screen.

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Speaker 2: They have found every way to try to knock this guy,

1388
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 2: and it just has become, you know, very memeable because

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Speaker 2: it's increasingly pathetic that things became picked to try to hit.

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Speaker 1: And went, oh, he took a shoes off. That's good.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, that is good.

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01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: So on, mom, Donnie jumps in New York City pool

1393
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 2: to kick off summer tradition while violating dress code rules.

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01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, how dare you? But you know, it

1395
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: seems like he's having fun. It seems like the city's

1396
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 2: having fun. It seems like he could be part of

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01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: something that is communal. I think zoron Mom Donnie may

1398
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 2: just be the cure for the male loneliness epidem.

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Speaker 1: Well do you remember last summer when he had the

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Speaker 1: canvassing like scavenger hunt. Yeah, and it sounded so cringe

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01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: and then everybody I loved it. People turned out for it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was like on a Saturday and it got like

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Speaker 1: hundreds of people out doing.

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Speaker 2: His thousand you know, there were thousands of people doing

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Speaker 2: this political scavenger.

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01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: Yes. It was crazy. Yeah, and nobody saw it coming.

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Speaker 2: But people are hungry for some sort of community, and

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01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: you know, if they feel like they can get that

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01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 2: through Zoran through DSA, that's going to be a very

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Speaker 2: appealing selling point to Josha Piro, You don't think he

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Speaker 2: should write more of another manifesto.

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Speaker 4: Than I could judge.

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Speaker 1: Live readings of his manifesto.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've reached out to you.

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Speaker 2: By the way, we'll cover more of this promise to

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Speaker 2: America Centrist Group with the manifesto, which is is very

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Speaker 2: interesting to me. We're trying to get somebody who actually

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Speaker 2: one of the representatives on the show to be able

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Speaker 2: to talk about it, so we'll see if that. If

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Speaker 2: that ends up happening, we'll skeptical they're going to join us,

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Speaker 2: but we'll see.