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Speaker 5: Kurt Warner isn't just a Cardinals Ring of Honor player,
Speaker 5: not just a team record setting quarterback. As if that's
Speaker 5: not enough, Kurt Warner stands as his own chapter in
Speaker 5: team history. Again, we're not talking about the record books here,
Speaker 5: because Kurt set plenty of those. We're talking about if
Speaker 5: the book was a Cardinals Big Red Dictionary, and you
Speaker 5: looked up the word culture, there'd be a picture of
Speaker 5: Kurt Warner, Paul Calvic here, Ron Wolfley there, and wolf
Speaker 5: You were there every game of Kurt Warner's career. A
Speaker 5: very special Cardinals Folkdales edition of The Big Red Rage,
Speaker 5: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. What's that old saying?
Speaker 5: Be the change you want to see? Kurt Warner was
Speaker 5: basically that as a player upon his arrival in Arizona,
Speaker 5: Old Graybeard.
Speaker 1: Poly of course everyone. That's what everyone thought he was
Speaker 1: when he showed up here from the New York Giants,
Speaker 1: and the Giants whatever they did to him, I have
Speaker 1: no idea. Kurt has talked about it from time to time,
Speaker 1: but the Giants tried to put him in a much
Speaker 1: more traditional type offense, I think than what he was
Speaker 1: known for, that being the greatest show on turf, and
Speaker 1: man he came here and I'll never forget the buzz
Speaker 1: of Old gray Beard, Kurt Warner being an Arizona Cardinal
Speaker 1: and then to see where he took it. You want
Speaker 1: to talk about a renaissance, Paully, his career was big
Speaker 1: time renaissance.
Speaker 5: It just took a while to figure it out as well.
Speaker 5: You know, we'll hear from Denny Green with some all
Speaker 5: time colorful sound bites can Wizna reflecting on the greatness
Speaker 5: of Kurt Warner. But eventually when it hit, it took off.
Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. And it's interesting because not
Speaker 5: long after his retirement he did an interview with Dick
Speaker 5: Vermal on stage, his old Saint Louis Rams coach. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and he actually looked at Dick Vermeal and he said,
Speaker 5: you know what, in hindsight, I consider my Cardinal's success
Speaker 5: more ratifying and rewarding than my Rams career, even though
Speaker 5: I want to ring was Saint Louis, just based on
Speaker 5: the amount of change that he was responsible for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, you stop and think about it. I mean,
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner came in here and he was the fire.
Speaker 1: He was the fire, the spark that hit the wood.
Speaker 1: The fuel that was here metaphorically speaking, when you think
Speaker 1: about it, was a Kwan Bolden, It was Larry Fitzgerald
Speaker 1: that was here. It was Carlos Dansby, Darnell Docketed, Kerr Trin,
Speaker 1: Barry Paul, these guys that were great pros, that fuel
Speaker 1: that was here, and Kirk came in here, and he
Speaker 1: was like the spark that ignited that fire. Just watching
Speaker 1: him go about his business too, in the professionalism that
Speaker 1: he brought, the poise that he brought to that position.
Speaker 1: It was like when he stepped into the huddle, he
Speaker 1: looked at his teammates and said, I got this.
Speaker 5: And he brought that accountability which is always a core
Speaker 5: part of culture. I can't tell you how many times
Speaker 5: as the sideline reporter, especially if you're a young receiver
Speaker 5: and you messed it up, you would hear from Kurt
Speaker 5: Warner before he even got off the field. How many
Speaker 5: times did he have a shouting match with Todd Haley
Speaker 5: on the sidelinine over what was going on with the
Speaker 5: game plan or what Kurt was it was not seen,
Speaker 5: and they'd scream at each other for ten seconds, and
Speaker 5: then ten seconds later they'd be looking over each other's
Speaker 5: shoulder at some film clips or some pictures like their
Speaker 5: BFFs all over again.
Speaker 1: You had a great relationship. I remember you specifically talking
Speaker 1: about that BALLI being on the sideline and seeing that unfold.
Speaker 1: Iron sharpens iron, right, and those two guys sharpened each other.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 5: Here's one of my favorite anecdotes Super Bowl Sunday, super
Speaker 5: Bowl forty three. You were on this bus. Well, we
Speaker 5: got out of the team hotel, we got on the
Speaker 5: bus and you remember us media guys get in the
Speaker 5: back and the tension on that bus. You needed a
Speaker 5: chainsaw to cut through it. Yeah, the nerves, guys were
Speaker 5: so nervous. You wondered if it was gonna be debilitating.
Speaker 5: You could hear a guy swallow five rows away and
Speaker 5: the last out of board, no joke, Kurt Warner, and
Speaker 5: he got on that bus without a care in the world.
Speaker 5: And he's fist bumping the bus driver and he's dapping
Speaker 5: guys up and he's having Nobody had said a word,
Speaker 5: and Kurt Warner was a chatterbox and he's just and
Speaker 5: everyone in the bus realized simultaneously, Oh, yeah, we have
Speaker 5: a quarterback who's been here and done this twice. We
Speaker 5: have a Super Bowl MVP quarterback. He's going to lead us.
Speaker 5: And how often I think he was the catalyst of
Speaker 5: change without even knowing it. Yeah, because all eyes were
Speaker 5: on him at all times.
Speaker 1: Paully, you have no idea what kind of impact that
Speaker 1: truly can have on a football team. I've talked about
Speaker 1: him many times. When a legend like Kurt Warner, when
Speaker 1: he steps into the huddle and he calls the play,
Speaker 1: every head snaps up. It's the respect, the inherent respect
Speaker 1: that Kurt Warner had that really added to all the
Speaker 1: goodness that he brought here.
Speaker 5: And so when we come back, we're gonna hear for ourselves.
Speaker 5: Kurt Warner renaissance man. On this very special Cardinals Folktales
Speaker 5: edition of The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
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Speaker 5: I'm Paul Calvic and his current Warner has always liked
Speaker 5: to say no one had ever gone from Aisle seven
Speaker 5: to the Hall of Fame, meaning there wasn't a precedent,
Speaker 5: there wasn't some roadmap that he could follow for a
Speaker 5: football player to go from stocking the shelves at an
Speaker 5: Iowa grocery store to having your bust on display in Candon, Ohio.
Speaker 5: It's why Kurt's life story literally became a movie script.
Speaker 5: American Underdog by the Way, great watch as the Saint
Speaker 5: also goes. Some players take the elevator to the top
Speaker 5: and some take the stairs. Kurt's path involved a few
Speaker 5: hard right turns, construction detours to the Arena League, and
Speaker 5: overseas through NFL Europe. Kurt knew he could play, but
Speaker 5: could he convince the NFL decision makers? And then out
Speaker 5: of nowhere, it happened in Saint Louis with the Rams,
Speaker 5: two time NFL MVP, Super Bowl MVP, and then in Arizona.
Speaker 5: But for everything fans saw of Kurt Warner out on
Speaker 5: that field and up on that screen, it was Kurt
Speaker 5: behind the scenes who was just as impressive and impactful.
Speaker 5: In Cardinal's folktales, we dive into the archives, So let's
Speaker 5: hit the rewind button on the renaissance man, Kurt Warner.
Speaker 5: When the Red Sea witnessed see change in their football fortunes.
Speaker 6: Very few quarterbacks are able to go from place to
Speaker 6: place to place and to have winning and to have
Speaker 6: culture change follow them.
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner brings the Cardinals back from the dead.
Speaker 7: I mean he changed the team mentality inside out.
Speaker 6: I don't think there was any doubt in six of
Speaker 6: what I could do. The doubt was whether I would
Speaker 6: get the opportunity to do it.
Speaker 8: In Arizona Cardinals select Matt Lioner quarterback.
Speaker 4: Ussam, you have a quarterback controversy. Who's your starter next
Speaker 4: week against Kansas City?
Speaker 9: What do you know about the quarterback situation going forward?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 10: Oh, I don't know anything. I'm just going to be
Speaker 10: ready to play whenever I can.
Speaker 11: Matt a start next week.
Speaker 2: Matt Stunt.
Speaker 6: I was never afraid of competition, but I was always
Speaker 6: afraid of unfair competition.
Speaker 4: We have a quarterback change.
Speaker 12: We kind of honed in on what he did well,
Speaker 12: what we did well, and we became a lot better.
Speaker 6: As the locker room knows, and oftentimes it's the locker
Speaker 6: room that dictates things more than even the organization of
Speaker 6: the coaching staff.
Speaker 5: Kurt Warner was the change. Kurt Warner was the culture.
Speaker 5: What Kurt in the locker room knew the rest of
Speaker 5: the world would soon find out.
Speaker 6: This is kind of how it's always been for me,
Speaker 6: kind of since there's still a gas in the tank.
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner looks like the man that won two MVPs.
Speaker 4: In a Super Bowl MVP when he was in Saint Louis.
Speaker 7: Kurt ended up taking over and he saw the magnificence.
Speaker 1: He's still got that MVP form.
Speaker 12: It really kind of got your attention. Wow, this guy
Speaker 12: still got some juice.
Speaker 6: Could I do enough in a short period of time
Speaker 6: to convince people if we just ride this out, we've
Speaker 6: got a chance.
Speaker 1: Old gray Beard showing that his beard isn't quite as
Speaker 1: gray as most people think.
Speaker 5: And think differently is what Kurt Warner forced people to do.
Speaker 5: He changed minds both about his own career and the
Speaker 5: state of the franchises he played for. Welcome in to
Speaker 5: Cardinals Folk Tales Renaissance Man presented by seventy two sold
Speaker 5: where we go in depth into Cardinals history, all time
Speaker 5: anecdotes through the recollections and memories of those who lived
Speaker 5: it or, in my case, those who covered it. My
Speaker 5: name is Paul Calvic, Cardinals sideline reporter. Kurt Warner was
Speaker 5: done more than once until he wasn't until he earned
Speaker 5: one more chance and delivered. He did.
Speaker 6: There is nothing greater in team sports than being able
Speaker 6: to be a catalyst for change.
Speaker 13: We're nobody else believed in us. We're nobody else believed
Speaker 13: in me. You guys did, and we're going to the
Speaker 13: Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Give him that gold jacket they get when they go
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: I hope to have another chapter here that can weigh
Speaker 6: evenly with what I did in Saint Louis. And that's
Speaker 6: really the objective and why I came here, had to
Speaker 6: do all about the Arizona Cardinals and what they're trying
Speaker 6: to do here.
Speaker 5: In March of two thousand and five, the only one
Speaker 5: who truly believed Kurt Warner would come anywhere close to
Speaker 5: his Saint Louis Rams glory was Kurt himself. He inked
Speaker 5: a one year, four million dollar deal at age thirty three,
Speaker 5: his third team in three years. Kurt was fresh off
Speaker 5: losing his job in New York to rookie Eli Manning.
Speaker 5: In fact, his last game as a starter was against
Speaker 5: the Cardinals, where Kurt was sacked. How many times at
Speaker 5: Sun Devil Stadium.
Speaker 4: It comes Uplitz and Warner is sacked against by Berry.
Speaker 4: Four sacks for bertrand Berry six for the Cardinals today.
Speaker 5: Well help, if you can't beat them, join them. Kurt
Speaker 5: played in ten games in two thousand and five. The
Speaker 5: Cardinals went to and eight in those games. During a
Speaker 5: five and eleven season, Kurt throwing for eleven touchdowns nine
Speaker 5: picks before his season was cut short by injury. Former
Speaker 5: Cardinals head coach Dennis green.
Speaker 11: Well, he got MCL ligament early in the game. That's
Speaker 11: the type injury that's four to six weeks, maybe without
Speaker 11: an operation, or sometimes it has to be operated on also,
Speaker 11: so he'll basically be out for the rest of the season.
Speaker 5: Before the knee injury, though, there were moments where Kurt
Speaker 5: was surgical, especially when throwing to his two Pro Bowl
Speaker 5: wide receivers Larry Fitzgerald and Ankwan Bolden back to.
Speaker 4: Throw one or a screen to Bolton over the middle,
Speaker 4: cut of the ten Bolton of the five breaks at tackle, the.
Speaker 2: Two head Bolden's in touchsdown.
Speaker 4: Going out with a five step drop lobs over the middle.
Speaker 4: Fitzgerald leabs got it touchdown. Cardinals.
Speaker 5: Both fitz and Ankwan had one hundred plus catches and
Speaker 5: over fourteen hundred yards receiving a piece, so Kurt's expectations
Speaker 5: were high for the two thousand and six season until
Speaker 5: April rolled around.
Speaker 8: With the tenth choice in the two thousand and six
Speaker 8: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Matt Lioner quarterback Russam.
Speaker 6: When we drafted Matt. That was the first thing that
Speaker 6: went through my mind, is like, is this it for me?
Speaker 6: You know, we'll even get a chance to compete moving forward.
Speaker 6: And if I don't compete here, you know, what are
Speaker 6: the chances that, you know, somebody else picks me up
Speaker 6: and I get another opportunity.
Speaker 5: Kurt got his chance, his opportunity to stay the starter.
Speaker 5: Week one, two thousand and six was game one in
Speaker 5: the history of State Farm Stadium, and Kurt played so
Speaker 5: well he was named NFC Offensive Player of the Week.
Speaker 5: Alas it did not last Week two in Seattle, sacked
Speaker 5: five times plus four Kurt fumbles, even though he didn't
Speaker 5: lose any. Then back home Week three against Saint Louis,
Speaker 5: Kurt was picked three times.
Speaker 4: Warner takes back to throw, has time, fires over the middle,
Speaker 4: tipped and it is going to be intercepted at the
Speaker 4: five yard line by a Toadway sends it over the
Speaker 4: middle and it is going to be picked off at
Speaker 4: the forty five yard line. Great diving interception. Warner in
Speaker 4: the pocket, fires over the middle, picked off, intercepted in
Speaker 4: the end zone by the Rams dexter Coakley. He takes
Speaker 4: a knee and the Ram we'll have the football at
Speaker 4: their twenty yard line.
Speaker 5: Third pick of the day by Kurt Warner. A nightmare
Speaker 5: game that just kept getting worse.
Speaker 4: Warner under center, and.
Speaker 2: He fumbled the ball.
Speaker 4: They fumbled the snap, and the Rams have it at
Speaker 4: the seventeen. Will Witherspoon comes up with it for Saint Louis.
Speaker 2: Do you believe that?
Speaker 1: Boy? This is one of those games where it's gonna
Speaker 1: leave a mark.
Speaker 5: A faithful fumble that looked bad and sounded worse when
Speaker 5: Kurt heard it from the Red Sea.
Speaker 6: I got boot out of the stadium.
Speaker 9: Kurt Warner the final fumble there, What did you see
Speaker 9: from where you were at?
Speaker 11: Just bumbled it quarterback in the center. We're not together,
Speaker 11: you know, and it's hard to say why. We had
Speaker 11: a couple of miscues in warm up, which you know,
Speaker 11: sent me off my rocker to a certain extent, and
Speaker 11: I yelled at the guys a little bit.
Speaker 1: I remember that play and it was the left guard
Speaker 1: pulling that actually knocked the ball out of Kurt Warner's hands.
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner never told anybody about and everyone was asking
Speaker 1: in the media, why why did you say anything about that?
Speaker 1: And Kurt said, remember it's always the quarterback's fault.
Speaker 5: That's Cardinal's longtime radio analyst Ron Wolfoy, and quarterbacks know
Speaker 5: there's truth to that old saying that QB's get too
Speaker 5: much credit and too much blame. And in my postgame
Speaker 5: interview with the head coach, it was about to be
Speaker 5: the latter. Is there anything in particular going on you
Speaker 5: think with Kurt?
Speaker 11: I don't know. I mean, I hope not. I mean
Speaker 11: I think that we've just got out and played. Here's
Speaker 11: some things that took place that were very well and
Speaker 11: some things that didn't. So obviously we're not all on
Speaker 11: the same page.
Speaker 5: Foreshadowing because by the next game at Atlanta, Denny Green
Speaker 5: was ready to turn the page.
Speaker 4: Warner takes the snap, seven steps straight, drop pressure coming,
Speaker 4: Warner rolling right. Sack of the ball's lost happened twenty
Speaker 4: five and in Lanta recovers it with twenty one, Michael
Speaker 4: Bowley stripped it and Rod Pullman recovers it. Another pump
Speaker 4: by Kurt Warner is ten in the last three games
Speaker 4: and Atlanta tanks over.
Speaker 5: The ball came out and so did Warner. Q the
Speaker 5: Heisman Trophy winner the.
Speaker 4: Matt Lionert era about to begin, Linert ready to take
Speaker 4: his first NFL snap.
Speaker 5: Cardinals still lose thirty two to ten, as Liner didn't
Speaker 5: fare much better than Warner bought.
Speaker 4: Let there be a QB question. You have a quarterback controversy.
Speaker 4: Who's your starter next week against Kansas City.
Speaker 5: Well, in the postgame locker room, we asked Liner live
Speaker 5: on air.
Speaker 9: What do you know about the quarterback situation going forward?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 10: Oh, I don't know anything. I'm just going to be
Speaker 10: ready to play whenever I.
Speaker 11: Came Matt a start next week? Match done?
Speaker 5: You heard that right? The head coach bum rushed our
Speaker 5: interview just outside his office in the Georgia Dome, grabbed
Speaker 5: the mic and name Matt the starter on live radio.
Speaker 6: You know as much and as disappointing as that kind
Speaker 6: of scenario is. At the same time, you say to yourself,
Speaker 6: but I signed up be a part of the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 6: and my job is not to just be a good
Speaker 6: teammates and to help this team win. If I'm starting,
Speaker 6: my job is to do whatever I can as a
Speaker 6: teammate and an Arizona Cardinal to help this team win,
Speaker 6: no matter what my role is.
Speaker 5: And Warner, the mentor was all too familiar with that role.
Speaker 6: You know, I'd been there before, you know, Mark Roger
Speaker 6: in Saint Louis, Eli Manning in New York, now, Matt
Speaker 6: Leonard in Arizona. I knew how to do that. As
Speaker 6: hard as it was, that became my role.
Speaker 11: I think he's done a good job, as well as
Speaker 11: you can do. I mean, I think that there are
Speaker 11: a few veterans Kurt, you know, Bled so, a few
Speaker 11: other guys that have been around league a long time
Speaker 11: have been major contributors to the National Football League, and we're,
Speaker 11: you know, put in a situation where they became backups.
Speaker 11: And Kurt's got a great attitude. He's a tremendous guy,
Speaker 11: and I thought he handled it well.
Speaker 5: So even in the face of NonStop change throughout two
Speaker 5: thousand and six, from losing fumbles to lose in his
Speaker 5: starting job, Kurt never lost his signature of faith.
Speaker 6: Always in the back of my mind, I never lost
Speaker 6: hope that I still believe I will be the best
Speaker 6: quarterback here. I don't know what that means, but every time,
Speaker 6: you know, throughout my career, the cream will always rise
Speaker 6: to the top.
Speaker 1: The best player will.
Speaker 6: Show himself at some point and it will be hard
Speaker 6: to deny that person an opportunity to see what they
Speaker 6: can do. And that's how I always, you know, went
Speaker 6: through my entire career.
Speaker 5: And Kurt's career was about to get yet another reboot.
Speaker 5: All that changed last off season, Well more change was
Speaker 5: coming in two thousand and seven in more ways than one,
Speaker 5: and whether it was a new start or a late start,
Speaker 5: because remember Kurt Warner didn't get his first NFL start
Speaker 5: until age twenty eight. Kurt handled change in the NFL
Speaker 5: like he excelled against a blitzing NFL defense, was at
Speaker 5: his best when it was time to read and react.
Speaker 5: So in two thousand and seven, with a new coach,
Speaker 5: a new offense, a new attitude, and overall a new
Speaker 5: culture straight ahead, this was nothing new for Kurt. Heck,
Speaker 5: in some ways, change itself was Warner's competitive advantage, and
Speaker 5: the more eyes on Kurt, the more he seemed to
Speaker 5: separate himself. Because make no mistake, Kurt was a quarterback
Speaker 5: who'd been there, done that at the highest level, and
Speaker 5: now it was a Cardinals team that needed exactly that
Speaker 5: that role model, a team that had talent but needed direction, cohesion,
Speaker 5: not necessarily a cheat code, but someone to hit the
Speaker 5: reset button and what ensued the shock the world Cardinals,
Speaker 5: or perhaps the only person that did not shock was
Speaker 5: the guy under center, who was at the center of
Speaker 5: it all. So when we come back, how would Kurt
Speaker 5: cope with another first round pick in his career path
Speaker 5: and how the end of one season would lead to
Speaker 5: the postseason. You're listening to a special Cardinals Folktales edition
Speaker 5: of The Big Red Rage Kurt Warner Renaissance Man, presented
Speaker 5: by santan Ford and Gilbert, and we hope you're enjoying
Speaker 5: this special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red Rage
Speaker 5: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. I'm Paul calvic Our
Speaker 5: title Kurt Warner, Renaissance Man. Went the Hall of Fame
Speaker 5: quarterback not only resuscitated his own career, but led a
Speaker 5: revival of the Cardinals. Of course, it wasn't easy. Couldn't
Speaker 5: be easy. Like Kurt's career itself, there was always a
Speaker 5: degree of difficulty, whether it was injury or age, or
Speaker 5: a first round quarterback to compete against, or a new
Speaker 5: coach to convince. And make no mistake, Kurt had to
Speaker 5: battle all of the above. Going into two thousand and seven.
Speaker 5: But remember back in nineteen ninety nine, years after Kurt
Speaker 5: and cut by the Packers after the Rams would then
Speaker 5: sign him as a fourth quarterback to compete for the
Speaker 5: third quarterback spot. Kurt would start the season opener after
Speaker 5: a devastating preseason injury just starter Tran Green, and Kurt
Speaker 5: would become the first player in NFL history to throw
Speaker 5: three touchdown passes in each of his first three starts,
Speaker 5: got in a four win team to a thirteen and
Speaker 5: three record and the Super Bowl title. Kurt Warner, the
Speaker 5: former camp arm was NFL MVP, but that was three
Speaker 5: teams ago and five years removed from Kurt's last Pro Bowl.
Speaker 5: So as we rejoined Cardinals folktales, it's the off season
Speaker 5: after the firing of Cardinals head coach Dennis Green. The
Speaker 5: new Cardinals coach in town entering seven put the no
Speaker 5: into no nonsense on behalf of the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 4: I want to introduce our new head football of coach
Speaker 4: Ken wizen Hunt.
Speaker 12: Young quarterbacks that have a bright future like he does
Speaker 12: are hard to find. You know, they don't grow on trees,
Speaker 12: so that's an exciting part of this organization.
Speaker 5: Certainly, meet the new boss same as the old boss,
Speaker 5: not exactly. New head coach Ken wizon On, a Super
Speaker 5: Bowl winning offensive coordinator from the Steelers, where he played
Speaker 5: a big part in developing Big Ben young Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 5: Akin to the Cardinals drafting Matt Liner.
Speaker 12: You've got a high pick in the first round at
Speaker 12: a quarterback, and that's always something that has great value
Speaker 12: to a team. But I think one of the things
Speaker 12: that you always have to be prepared for is who's
Speaker 12: your backup, and having a veteran backup, a guy with
Speaker 12: the experience of Kurt Warner, it was something that I
Speaker 12: felt was a good thing that would be a good
Speaker 12: environment for a young quarterback to learn and grow.
Speaker 6: I thought Matt actually played really well his rookie year.
Speaker 6: Even though we didn't win any games, he played some
Speaker 6: really good football, so you know he was playing well,
Speaker 6: but there was just something missing. I felt I was
Speaker 6: that something missing, that I had something different that I
Speaker 6: could lend to this team to help us get over
Speaker 6: the top. It was just a matter of whether I
Speaker 6: was going to have the opportunity to show that Kurt
Speaker 6: would have.
Speaker 5: That opportunity eventually, Matt Leinert started the two thousand and
Speaker 5: seven season opener a three point loss at San Francisco.
Speaker 5: Week two at home against Seattle, a three point win
Speaker 5: where Liner threw for nearly three hundred yards, Which takes
Speaker 5: us to week three when midway through the second.
Speaker 4: Quarter we have a quarterback change. Well confirm whether this
Speaker 4: is injury or lated or not. But Matt Lioner's got
Speaker 4: his helmet on and he's applauding as Kurt Warner runs
Speaker 4: onto the field. Your thoughts on this decision?
Speaker 12: Wolf, Wow, we started running some no huddle offense and
Speaker 12: we kind of let Kurt take the reins with that
Speaker 12: just because he had more experience. Matt did it, but
Speaker 12: you know, obviously checks at the line, communication with players,
Speaker 12: you know, those were things that you just didn't want
Speaker 12: to put on Matt's play.
Speaker 6: You know, if there's anything that I do, well, let's
Speaker 6: drop back and throw the football and be able to,
Speaker 6: you know, kind of run the show at the line
Speaker 6: of scrimmage. And so they were giving me an opportunity
Speaker 6: to show everybody what I was capable of, even if
Speaker 6: it was for two minutes here or three minutes there,
Speaker 6: or the end of the half or whatever that was.
Speaker 6: I was going in to do what I did.
Speaker 4: Warner back to throwing his pass over the middle Cort
Speaker 4: boldon forty yard line, forty five midfield and finally wrapped
Speaker 4: up of the forty five in Baltimore Territory.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, welcome to the ball game. Kurt Warner lit
Speaker 1: up like Jojo the circus boy, and yet stands there
Speaker 1: and throws the ball on time.
Speaker 5: That was Kurt's very first play, thirty seven yards day
Speaker 5: in kwon Bolden. Kurt was cooking, but there was still
Speaker 5: confusion as to why there were two chefs in the
Speaker 5: kitchen until we got the scoop down on the sideline.
Speaker 5: Let's end some speculation because coach Ken wizen On telling
Speaker 5: the sideline reporters at halftime that the appearance of Kurt
Speaker 5: Warner was part of a package. As he called it,
Speaker 5: those are his words. He said. It'd be similar to
Speaker 5: as if you would bring in two tight ends. He
Speaker 5: likened it to a two tight end set. It was
Speaker 5: by design and it was planned, according to head coach
Speaker 5: Ken Wizna. In the third quarter, Liner played almost one
Speaker 5: hundred percent of the snaps, bought down twenty three to six.
Speaker 5: To start the fourth, Warner checked in and clicked in
Speaker 5: to MVP mode.
Speaker 4: Warner takes the snap, drops the throw, pumps, fires over
Speaker 4: the middle, touchdown and kwam Boulden and the Cardinals had
Speaker 4: their first TV of the game.
Speaker 1: That was a great job by Kurt Warner of looking
Speaker 1: off the receiver.
Speaker 4: And credit the Cardinals coaching staffer sticking with right now
Speaker 4: the guy that gives him the best chance to move
Speaker 4: the ball to Kurt Warner.
Speaker 12: Kurt did really well with that. You know, he was
Speaker 12: a naturally, he had the experience, so it really kind
Speaker 12: of got your attention. Wow, this guy still got some juice,
Speaker 12: you know, and he can help.
Speaker 4: Us the temple. You can tell even though they're going
Speaker 4: no huddle is better. Even Warner on his drops quicker
Speaker 4: dropping back throw in liner was shotgun snapped to Warner,
Speaker 4: three step drough looking firing over the middle, boldon there cought.
Speaker 2: Ten five folded down.
Speaker 4: It's a touchdown for a quand folden and here come
Speaker 4: the Cardinals and Kurt Warner.
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a big time throw by Warner.
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner brings the Cardinals back from the dead within
Speaker 4: three of Baltimore. Kurt Warner on the last two drives
Speaker 4: seven for seven, two touchdowns, both to number eighty one.
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner is a six to sixth man. Right now,
Speaker 1: he is in the zone.
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner is balling.
Speaker 6: The positive for me was I got to play in
Speaker 6: the two minute offense. Like when I went in it
Speaker 6: was the no huddle offense, and I got to run
Speaker 6: the show. And so you know, not only you know,
Speaker 6: was it probably a little bit unfair to Matt, but
Speaker 6: it allowed me to go, Okay, I get to show
Speaker 6: you me at my best.
Speaker 5: Cardinals didn't get the win, ultimately falling in Baltimore by
Speaker 5: a fuel goal, but did they find the winning formula.
Speaker 1: Anytime you're working two quarterbacks into this situation, you know
Speaker 1: a change is coming.
Speaker 5: That next week, Warner and Lionerd split time in a
Speaker 5: win against Pittsburgh. Next stop Saint Louis. Mid second quarter,
Speaker 5: Kurt leads a touchdown drive the next possession, though would
Speaker 5: be Linerd's last in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 4: Play fake Lionar did trouble Lionard sack back at the
Speaker 4: five yard line. They got drilled by Will Witherspoon, who
Speaker 4: came out of delayed blitz and Lionard banged up. He's
Speaker 4: gonna have to leave the game. Lioner calling to the
Speaker 4: sideline for Kurt Horner, and Horner's gonna find his helmet.
Speaker 4: Now he comes running out of the field with a
Speaker 4: play clock already at twenty five seconds. They're working on
Speaker 4: Linerd's left shoulder.
Speaker 1: You know the way Matt Lioner came down on that
Speaker 1: shoulder two, which is his throwing shoulder. He came down
Speaker 1: on that thing hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right away he went and grabbed the shoulder as
Speaker 4: soon as he was slammed down.
Speaker 1: Boy, you don't like to see that right there.
Speaker 5: Guys, the headline's going to read Kurt Warner back in
Speaker 5: Saint Louis. Looks like the rest of this game, maybe
Speaker 5: the rest of the foreseeable future. Left collarbone injury on
Speaker 5: Matt liner is the official word return doubtful.
Speaker 12: We missed a pick up on a pressure against the Rams,
Speaker 12: I think it was, and knocked Matt out. When that happened,
Speaker 12: it was, you know, obviously a setback for Matt, but
Speaker 12: we felt, well, now we're going to see about Kurt
Speaker 12: just in being able to run the offense. Which you know,
Speaker 12: that's the reason that you feel comfortable about having a
Speaker 12: guy like that is because of his experience. So when
Speaker 12: that happened, we were disappointed for Matt, but you know,
Speaker 12: obviously we felt good about Kurt.
Speaker 6: I know as well as anybody. I got my opportunity
Speaker 6: because somebody got injured, and you never wish that upon anybody.
Speaker 6: But obviously, you know, going too Saint Louis and Matt
Speaker 6: suffering the separated shoulder, was that opportunity for me to
Speaker 6: get back in there and kind of run the show again.
Speaker 5: Of course, it wasn't without its challenges, like the very
Speaker 5: next week against Carolina and Pro Bowl pass rusher Julius Peppers.
Speaker 4: Back to throat goes Warner, pressure and fubble the ball.
Speaker 4: Pepper sacked him and the balls loose and Peppers has
Speaker 4: it at the thirty seventy yard line and Peppers fell
Speaker 4: on Warner's left arm, and Warner shaking his elbow as
Speaker 4: he came off.
Speaker 12: You know, he was convinced that he could still play,
Speaker 12: and that's the reason he's in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 12: because of that mentality. He believed in himself and you know,
Speaker 12: he certainly backed it up.
Speaker 5: Just talked to the Cardinals coaches.
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner is.
Speaker 5: The starter today, guys, full go until he shows he
Speaker 5: can't handle the pain. Essentially, he is going to do
Speaker 5: everything they possibly have in the playbook as if he
Speaker 5: was fully healthy until he demonstrates otherwise. In fact, look
Speaker 5: for him to hand the ball off exclusively with his
Speaker 5: right hand. He'll be backhanding some of the handoffs just
Speaker 5: to keep some of the strain off the left arm.
Speaker 1: The number one prerequisite to playing that position, you had
Speaker 1: to be tough. You would not be able to play
Speaker 1: it well if you are not a tough individual. But
Speaker 1: he was tall.
Speaker 12: There was no way that you were going to get
Speaker 12: him out, you know, even with the elbow, and it's
Speaker 12: a credit to his toughness and his drive and his competitiveness.
Speaker 1: You got a guy with no tendon in his left
Speaker 1: elbow with tape jobs and braces that he's completing fastest.
Speaker 5: Kirk played every game the rest of the way in
Speaker 5: seven and finished the last month on fire, throwing three
Speaker 5: touchdown passes in each of the final four games.
Speaker 12: In the last half of that two thousand and seven season,
Speaker 12: we kind of honed in on what he did well,
Speaker 12: what we did well, and we became a lot better
Speaker 12: as a team. We finished the year, you know, eight
Speaker 12: and eight, which was big for us.
Speaker 6: Things started to change for us that people started to
Speaker 6: see me as the player that I was, and people
Speaker 6: started to see our team and saying, this team's got
Speaker 6: some pieces, this team's got a chance. You know now
Speaker 6: that they you know, they're starting to build something that
Speaker 6: you know, they could turn the corner and this could
Speaker 6: be a different Arizona Cardinal team than we've seen in
Speaker 6: the past. You know, I remember going in and having
Speaker 6: a conversation with coach just basically saying, is this at
Speaker 6: OVID competition? Is the best player going to play? How
Speaker 6: is this you know, really going to play out? I
Speaker 6: just want to know from my mindset going in, do
Speaker 6: I have a chance to play? And he told me yes.
Speaker 12: We thought because of the way we finished the two
Speaker 12: thousand and seven season that it was fair to give
Speaker 12: him a chance. It was good to see how they
Speaker 12: handled it. It was good to see how the competition went.
Speaker 12: And you know, in all fairness, Kurt won it.
Speaker 5: And the decisive moment was the all important third preseason
Speaker 5: game when Liner threw three picks with a passer rating
Speaker 5: of just two point eight, soon after Warner went from
Speaker 5: mentor to starter.
Speaker 10: You know, it was a fair chance.
Speaker 5: I believe.
Speaker 10: I really do believe that, and I think we both
Speaker 10: played well and they made a decision with Kurt. That's
Speaker 10: as simple as that, and it's my job to stay
Speaker 10: focused and to prepare every single day like I'm the starter.
Speaker 10: That's what I'm going to do, take advantage of the
Speaker 10: reps when I do get it, and support him one
Speaker 10: hundred percent.
Speaker 6: Believe that I can bring something to any team that
Speaker 6: I'm with.
Speaker 1: I believe I.
Speaker 6: Can do that with this team here. I think the
Speaker 6: coaches have seen that, and with that experience in what
Speaker 6: we started last year, I think that probably gave me
Speaker 6: the leg up over anything.
Speaker 5: Up and down would describe the two thousand and eight
Speaker 5: regular season. Kirk had a perfect passer rating Week two
Speaker 5: against the Dolphins. Cardinals won an ot thriller against the
Speaker 5: Cowboys on a block punt in the end zone. Cardinals
Speaker 5: would clinch the division title early, but down the stretch
Speaker 5: there was a lopside of loss at Philly on Thanksgiving night,
Speaker 5: a snow game, jack stomping in New England, leading to
Speaker 5: that worst playoff team ever Moniker, but Kurt Warner would
Speaker 5: finish with the third best passer rating in the league,
Speaker 5: loss three one thousand yard receivers and once the Big
Speaker 5: Red got to the postseason, well, like Ron Wolfley says,
Speaker 5: hold onto your butts.
Speaker 4: It's a playflicker. Warner gonna throw deep near sight, going
Speaker 4: for fans.
Speaker 2: He's in double coverage. It doesn't matter. He caught it anyway. Touchdown, Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner could throw a twinkie into a toaster.
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is on fire.
Speaker 4: Warner with a ton of time throwing right side, fits open, caught.
Speaker 2: In the five, heading for the pylon, and he is
Speaker 2: gonna be ruled EO. Cardinals worry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 4: Warner takes back to throw faith left side. Fitzgerald pig
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 2: Touchdown, his third of the day. It's twenty to six Arizona.
Speaker 1: Wow, Kurt Warner isn't in the zone. He is the zone.
Speaker 2: That's it. The Cardinals half shot the world. It's right
Speaker 2: for true. The Cords have done it. They're going to
Speaker 2: Super Bowl forty three.
Speaker 5: The QB, who was supposedly on the down side of
Speaker 5: his career, showed the world how much upside there really
Speaker 5: was in his game and his team.
Speaker 13: We're nobody else believed in us. We're nobody else believed
Speaker 13: in me. You guys did, and we're going to the
Speaker 13: super Bowl.
Speaker 5: A surreal moment because unlike the Cardinals franchise, Kurt he'd
Speaker 5: been to the Big Game before twice, a fact not
Speaker 5: lost on fans, opponents, and most importantly, his old locker room.
Speaker 5: They believe, like Olyman Douce Latui and receiver Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 7: The threat he imposed upon the defense. I mean he
Speaker 7: had them on their toes and you saw the magnificence.
Speaker 7: I mean he changed the team mentality inside out.
Speaker 14: His experience, his knowledge of the game. He knows exactly
Speaker 14: what's going on. It's hard for you to confuse him
Speaker 14: because he's seen every look you can throw at him.
Speaker 14: He's seen every blitz. His demeanors is so I've been
Speaker 14: there before, I've done this, and he is really comforting
Speaker 14: to look in his eyes and know that he's done
Speaker 14: this before. And now you've got to do out to
Speaker 14: go out there and just make sure you do your job.
Speaker 4: Warner, the pass with time fires over the middle of
Speaker 4: the fits.
Speaker 2: Put it the forty five fifth day, but.
Speaker 4: This this forty thirdy goodbye, Harkins lead put down where it.
Speaker 2: Ben Gerald, you've gotta.
Speaker 4: Be kidding me to the holl Larry Fitzgerald a sixty
Speaker 4: four yard touchdown pass by Warner to mitz Gerald and
Speaker 4: the Cardinals lead Super Bowl forty three.
Speaker 5: Of course, that's Kurt defits with just over two and
Speaker 5: a half minutes to play. As we know how that
Speaker 5: Super Bowl ended, what we did not know was that
Speaker 5: Kurt was not done and he'd yet to play maybe
Speaker 5: his greatest game ever.
Speaker 4: And here comes one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL
Speaker 4: postseason history, and that's the Cardinals signal caller, Kurt Warner.
Speaker 6: I think about the last game that I played in
Speaker 6: State Farm Stadium or University of Phoenix Stadium. You could
Speaker 6: argue it was the best football game that I ever played.
Speaker 4: Fires over the middle, It's caught inside the ten yard line,
Speaker 4: inside the five touchdown. Early this set, Warner's got time,
Speaker 4: steps up, throws over the middle, gets caught by two
Speaker 4: set at of.
Speaker 2: Ten spins out of a tack with the five. New
Speaker 2: set takes it.
Speaker 4: Up with the touchdown, throwing over the middle Fitzgerald wide
Speaker 4: over to the twenty. Most of the ten fits us
Speaker 4: on where a legend does it again In the playoff,
Speaker 4: warnerhead ball floats out of their diving cats.
Speaker 2: Anyway by Beds in the hands.
Speaker 4: Off touchdown, Warner's got it back to pass steps up
Speaker 4: throws over the middle.
Speaker 2: What a catch by chresta touchdown, Arizona boy.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you he has been absolutely on fire, like
Speaker 1: I've never seen him on fire.
Speaker 9: Kurt Warner. He had more touchdown passes than he did incompletions.
Speaker 9: Can you put his performance into perspective?
Speaker 12: One of the best playoff quarterbacks ever, and Kurt was
Speaker 12: in a special place and it showed up today. You
Speaker 12: know he was on he was on his game. He
Speaker 12: was fired up.
Speaker 5: Kurt's last home game one of the greatest playoff performances
Speaker 5: ever and maybe his best game ever where the Cardinals
Speaker 5: beat the Packers in overtime.
Speaker 6: I think I played as good a football those three
Speaker 6: years with the aar Zona Cardinals as I did those
Speaker 6: three years with the Saint Louis Rams.
Speaker 1: And yes, I went to.
Speaker 6: Two Super Bowls and won two MVPs with the Rams,
Speaker 6: but I still believed in my mind I was just
Speaker 6: as good a quarterback, if not better, with the Cardinals.
Speaker 5: Those MVPs and Super Bowls led to the Cardinals Ring
Speaker 5: of Honor and the Pro Football Hall of Fame not
Speaker 5: possible without his career revival in the Desert.
Speaker 6: I love the way my career played out. Very few
Speaker 6: quarterbacks are able to go from place to place to
Speaker 6: place and to have winning and to have culture change
Speaker 6: follow them. That to me is what I hang on
Speaker 6: to more than anything else.
Speaker 5: And there you have it, Cardinals Folk Tales presented by
Speaker 5: seventy two sold Kurt Warner renaissance Man Special thanks to
Speaker 5: executive producer Jim Almalhundro associate producer Cody Fincher. My name
Speaker 5: is Paul Calvic and we'll leave the last word to
Speaker 5: Kurt on what stands out the most.
Speaker 6: There is nothing greater in team sports than being able
Speaker 6: to be a catalyst for.
Speaker 5: Change and to think. Kurt admitted later that he considered
Speaker 5: retirement in two thousand and six after first round rookie
Speaker 5: Matt Liner took over the starting gig. Yet, when Kurt
Speaker 5: did retire after the nine season, he held the Cardinals
Speaker 5: franchise records for completion percentage and passer rating, as well
Speaker 5: as three hundred yard games and consecutive games with a
Speaker 5: touchdown pass twenty two in a row. In his six
Speaker 5: Cardinals postseason games, Kurt Warner threw four to sixteen touchdowns
Speaker 5: in only four picks. And yes, Kurt's two thousand and
Speaker 5: eight Super Bowl season featured team records in passer rating
Speaker 5: and touchdown passes and completion percentage, and all told, Kurt
Speaker 5: actually threw four more passing yards in Arizona than he
Speaker 5: did in Sant Louis. But Kurt's impact went so far
Speaker 5: beyond the box score. As a Cardinal, Kurt earned the
Speaker 5: NFL's prestigious Walter Payton Mann of the Year Award, deservedly
Speaker 5: sold for all his extensive work in the community. But
Speaker 5: if there was an award for culture, Kurt's leadership in
Speaker 5: the locker room. His impact throughout the Cardinals organization was
Speaker 5: poignant and pivotal to the Cardinals' success ever since. Almost
Speaker 5: a permanent Big Red Reset. And when we come back,
Speaker 5: we'll bring back former Cardinals Pro Bowl a Ron Wolfley,
Speaker 5: who called every game of Kurt Warner's Cardinals career. This
Speaker 5: is a special Cardinals Folktales edition to the Big Red Rage,
Speaker 5: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert the Legacy of Kurt Warner.
Speaker 5: The Ring of Honor member of the Hall of Famer,
Speaker 5: not only changed the culture, but he changed the game
Speaker 5: in so much any ways. For the Arizona Cardinals. It's
Speaker 5: our very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of the Big
Speaker 5: Red Rage Presentavice santan Ford and Gilbert Paul Kelvic Ron
Speaker 5: Wolfley for wrapping it up, think about a wolf. He
Speaker 5: was the point man, the trigger man for the greatest
Speaker 5: show on turf, and then he was the trigger man,
Speaker 5: the catalyst for change. That was the shock the world. Cardinals.
Speaker 5: Kurt Warner didn't just lead to franchises to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: He really revolutionized and reset a couple of franchises into
Speaker 5: winning ways that were lasting in so many ways.
Speaker 1: He really did bully. And you know, of course, there
Speaker 1: are always when you talk about a football player, tangibles
Speaker 1: and there are intangibles, and Kurt had them both. The tangible,
Speaker 1: very tangible physical presence that Kurt had because of his
Speaker 1: incredible accuracy, he was one of the more accurate quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that has ever played in the National Football League. His
Speaker 1: release to Paully Own, that thing would come out quickly
Speaker 1: from Kurt Warner in not only that, but his brain.
Speaker 1: Those were the physical attributes of Kurt, Those were the
Speaker 1: things he really brought to the football field, but the
Speaker 1: intangibles that came with that, Paulie, he had one of
Speaker 1: the greatest gifts that any quarterback could ever have, and
Speaker 1: that was to keep your eyes down the field, regardless
Speaker 1: of what it was going on around you. Paul, That
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. Just watching Kurt, it was astounding.
Speaker 1: And I've said this many times, PAULI, but to see
Speaker 1: the pocket collapsing around Kurt Warner and suddenly you thought
Speaker 1: he was sacked. And then this arm would come out
Speaker 1: and Paul, You've seen this from the sideline many times.
Speaker 1: His arm would come out from the all of these
Speaker 1: helmets that were around him and suddenly throw a strike
Speaker 1: on the deep end coming into and kwombolden. His ability
Speaker 1: to keep his eyes downfield just into none, Paul.
Speaker 5: The pocket would swallow up Kurt Warner and then this
Speaker 5: periscope would come out like a submarine and then boom
Speaker 5: the ball's downfield. The accuracy, the anticipation, the ability to
Speaker 5: read and react all skills honed in the Arena League
Speaker 5: ultra fast. You had to be really quick with your
Speaker 5: mind and with the release. Think about some of the
Speaker 5: all time moments too, not just the biggest moments. We
Speaker 5: talked about the five touchdowns and only four incompletions out
Speaker 5: dueling in Aaron Rodgers. We talked about that, the Super
Speaker 5: Bowl run, but don't forget about late fourth quarter playoff
Speaker 5: opener against Atlanta, third and sixteen. Roun Wolfleo, when you're
Speaker 5: looking to seal the game.
Speaker 1: Incredible, Paulie that you bring that up right there, because yes,
Speaker 1: this is when I think of Kurt Warner. I think
Speaker 1: of this play as well. This was a critical point
Speaker 1: in the game. The Cardinals were trying to ice the deal.
Speaker 1: They had a third and sixteen.
Speaker 5: Is that what it was?
Speaker 1: Polly again, a third and sixteen, and suddenly they run
Speaker 1: Steven Spock the tight end. Now, Steven Spock was a
Speaker 1: good football player, Okay he was, but man, this was
Speaker 1: no This was no juggernaut when it came to receptions
Speaker 1: and Kwon Bolden, Yes, Larry Fitzgerald, yes, Steve Preston, Yes,
Speaker 1: you know Steven Spock. No, not a third string tight
Speaker 1: end exactly. And yet Kurt Warner hit him down the
Speaker 1: scene to ice this game, to put it on ice
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. And that is that is something that
Speaker 1: Kurt also did. He would throw the ball to the
Speaker 1: open man and did not care. He cared about schemes.
Speaker 1: Kurt was all about the scheme and not just the
Speaker 1: skulls that were fulfilling the scheme. He cared about the
Speaker 1: scheme and he would throw it to the open man.
Speaker 1: And because of that, one of the greatest moments in
Speaker 1: Cardinal history throwing to Steven Spock on third and sixteen.
Speaker 5: It didn't get set enough. He was almost like a
Speaker 5: de facto offensive coordinator. He would work with Todd Hailey
Speaker 5: in the offensive staff in devising the game plan. They
Speaker 5: would wait for his inut on a Monday. And then
Speaker 5: the toughness look mentally tough, physically tough. I mean he
Speaker 5: almost got ripped apart by Julius Peppers and then all
Speaker 5: of a sudden he had to learn to hand the
Speaker 5: ball off with his throwing arm because his left arm
Speaker 5: was no longer functional. So there was the toughness aspect
Speaker 5: of being a quarterback as well.
Speaker 1: That is something that nobody talks enough about in regard
Speaker 1: to gray Beard as well, and the reason being PAULI
Speaker 1: is because think of how many hits he took. Now
Speaker 1: you know, listen, Kurt's gonna tell you I could run.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I could run?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Kurt still in his day, says he could have run
Speaker 1: the ball a lot more. And you know, but I
Speaker 1: don't know about that gray Beard. All I know is
Speaker 1: he took a beating many many times inside the pocket
Speaker 1: when that arm wouldn't come out.
Speaker 5: And to think his career started in Packers' training camp
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety four when his future wife Brenda watched and
Speaker 5: heard a fan say, nah, that Kurt Warning, guy's just
Speaker 5: a camp arm. And then she realized camp arm meant
Speaker 5: you're not gonna make the team. And after that he
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame, and he changed the fortunes of
Speaker 5: two franchises, including the Arizona Cardinals. For executive producer Jim Amhandro,
Speaker 5: associate producer Cody Fincher, Ron Wolfley on Paul Calvec This
Speaker 5: has been a Cardinals foll Tales edition of The Big
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