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Speaker 2: Red Seeds Rising Up.

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Speaker 3: Timber Rising Vision, Blurry Rage, Tack It Ober, here's Paul Calvici.

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Speaker 5: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you

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Speaker 2: And Ron Woopley. It doesn't get any better than that.

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Speaker 5: Kurt Warner isn't just a Cardinals Ring of Honor player,

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Speaker 5: the book was a Cardinals Big Red Dictionary, and you

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Speaker 5: looked up the word culture, there'd be a picture of

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Speaker 5: Kurt Warner, Paul Calvic here, Ron Wolfley there, and wolf

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Speaker 5: You were there every game of Kurt Warner's career. A

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Speaker 5: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. What's that old saying?

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Speaker 5: Be the change you want to see? Kurt Warner was

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Speaker 5: You know, we'll hear from Denny Green with some all

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Speaker 5: I'm Paul Calvic and his current Warner has always liked

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Speaker 5: It's why Kurt's life story literally became a movie script.

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Speaker 5: American Underdog by the Way, great watch as the Saint

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Speaker 5: When the Red Sea witnessed see change in their football fortunes.

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Speaker 4: Kurt Warner brings the Cardinals back from the dead.

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Speaker 7: I mean he changed the team mentality inside out.

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Speaker 6: I don't think there was any doubt in six of

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Speaker 5: Kurt Warner was the change. Kurt Warner was the culture.

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Speaker 6: This is kind of how it's always been for me,

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Speaker 5: Kurt got his chance, his opportunity to stay the starter.

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Speaker 5: A faithful fumble that looked bad and sounded worse when

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Speaker 9: Kurt Warner the final fumble there, What did you see

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Speaker 1: I remember that play and it was the left guard

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Speaker 5: That's Cardinal's longtime radio analyst Ron Wolfoy, and quarterbacks know

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Speaker 4: Warner takes the snap, seven steps straight, drop pressure coming,

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Speaker 5: The ball came out and so did Warner. Q the

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Speaker 4: Let there be a QB question. You have a quarterback controversy.

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Speaker 5: You heard that right? The head coach bum rushed our

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Speaker 5: And Warner, the mentor was all too familiar with that role.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'd been there before, you know, Mark Roger

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Speaker 6: Always in the back of my mind, I never lost

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Speaker 5: And Kurt's career was about to get yet another reboot.

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Speaker 5: All that changed last off season, Well more change was

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Speaker 5: the postseason. You're listening to a special Cardinals Folktales edition

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Speaker 5: of The Big Red Rage Kurt Warner Renaissance Man, presented

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Speaker 5: by santan Ford and Gilbert, and we hope you're enjoying

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Speaker 5: this special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red Rage

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Speaker 5: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. I'm Paul calvic Our

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Speaker 5: title Kurt Warner, Renaissance Man. Went the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 5: quarterback not only resuscitated his own career, but led a

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Speaker 5: But remember back in nineteen ninety nine, years after Kurt

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Speaker 5: So as we rejoined Cardinals folktales, it's the off season

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Speaker 5: after the firing of Cardinals head coach Dennis Green. The

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Speaker 12: Young quarterbacks that have a bright future like he does

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Speaker 5: Certainly, meet the new boss same as the old boss,

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Speaker 6: I thought Matt actually played really well his rookie year.

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Speaker 5: That opportunity eventually, Matt Leinert started the two thousand and

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Speaker 4: his helmet on and he's applauding as Kurt Warner runs

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Speaker 4: onto the field. Your thoughts on this decision?

442
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Speaker 12: Wolf, Wow, we started running some no huddle offense and

443
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 12: we kind of let Kurt take the reins with that

444
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 12: just because he had more experience. Matt did it, but

445
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 12: you know, obviously checks at the line, communication with players,

446
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 12: you know, those were things that you just didn't want

447
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 12: to put on Matt's play.

448
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 6: You know, if there's anything that I do, well, let's

449
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 6: drop back and throw the football and be able to,

450
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 6: you know, kind of run the show at the line

451
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 6: of scrimmage. And so they were giving me an opportunity

452
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 6: to show everybody what I was capable of, even if

453
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 6: it was for two minutes here or three minutes there,

454
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 6: or the end of the half or whatever that was.

455
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 6: I was going in to do what I did.

456
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 4: Warner back to throwing his pass over the middle Cort

457
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 4: boldon forty yard line, forty five midfield and finally wrapped

458
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Speaker 4: up of the forty five in Baltimore Territory.

459
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Speaker 1: Oh boy, welcome to the ball game. Kurt Warner lit

460
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: up like Jojo the circus boy, and yet stands there

461
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: and throws the ball on time.

462
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 5: That was Kurt's very first play, thirty seven yards day

463
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 5: in kwon Bolden. Kurt was cooking, but there was still

464
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 5: confusion as to why there were two chefs in the

465
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 5: kitchen until we got the scoop down on the sideline.

466
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Speaker 5: Let's end some speculation because coach Ken wizen On telling

467
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Speaker 5: the sideline reporters at halftime that the appearance of Kurt

468
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 5: Warner was part of a package. As he called it,

469
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 5: those are his words. He said. It'd be similar to

470
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 5: as if you would bring in two tight ends. He

471
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 5: likened it to a two tight end set. It was

472
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 5: by design and it was planned, according to head coach

473
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Speaker 5: Ken Wizna. In the third quarter, Liner played almost one

474
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 5: hundred percent of the snaps, bought down twenty three to six.

475
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 5: To start the fourth, Warner checked in and clicked in

476
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 5: to MVP mode.

477
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 4: Warner takes the snap, drops the throw, pumps, fires over

478
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 4: the middle, touchdown and kwam Boulden and the Cardinals had

479
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 4: their first TV of the game.

480
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: That was a great job by Kurt Warner of looking

481
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: off the receiver.

482
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 4: And credit the Cardinals coaching staffer sticking with right now

483
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: the guy that gives him the best chance to move

484
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 4: the ball to Kurt Warner.

485
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 12: Kurt did really well with that. You know, he was

486
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 12: a naturally, he had the experience, so it really kind

487
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 12: of got your attention. Wow, this guy still got some juice,

488
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 12: you know, and he can help.

489
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 4: Us the temple. You can tell even though they're going

490
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 4: no huddle is better. Even Warner on his drops quicker

491
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 4: dropping back throw in liner was shotgun snapped to Warner,

492
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 4: three step drough looking firing over the middle, boldon there cought.

493
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Speaker 2: Ten five folded down.

494
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 4: It's a touchdown for a quand folden and here come

495
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 4: the Cardinals and Kurt Warner.

496
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a big time throw by Warner.

497
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner brings the Cardinals back from the dead within

498
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: three of Baltimore. Kurt Warner on the last two drives

499
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 4: seven for seven, two touchdowns, both to number eighty one.

500
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Speaker 1: Kurt Warner is a six to sixth man. Right now,

501
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: he is in the zone.

502
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner is balling.

503
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 6: The positive for me was I got to play in

504
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 6: the two minute offense. Like when I went in it

505
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 6: was the no huddle offense, and I got to run

506
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 6: the show. And so you know, not only you know,

507
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 6: was it probably a little bit unfair to Matt, but

508
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 6: it allowed me to go, Okay, I get to show

509
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 6: you me at my best.

510
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 5: Cardinals didn't get the win, ultimately falling in Baltimore by

511
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 5: a fuel goal, but did they find the winning formula.

512
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: Anytime you're working two quarterbacks into this situation, you know

513
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: a change is coming.

514
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 5: That next week, Warner and Lionerd split time in a

515
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 5: win against Pittsburgh. Next stop Saint Louis. Mid second quarter,

516
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 5: Kurt leads a touchdown drive the next possession, though would

517
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 5: be Linerd's last in two thousand and seven.

518
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 4: Play fake Lionar did trouble Lionard sack back at the

519
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 4: five yard line. They got drilled by Will Witherspoon, who

520
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 4: came out of delayed blitz and Lionard banged up. He's

521
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: gonna have to leave the game. Lioner calling to the

522
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 4: sideline for Kurt Horner, and Horner's gonna find his helmet.

523
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: Now he comes running out of the field with a

524
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 4: play clock already at twenty five seconds. They're working on

525
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: Linerd's left shoulder.

526
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: You know the way Matt Lioner came down on that

527
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: shoulder two, which is his throwing shoulder. He came down

528
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: on that thing hard.

529
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, right away he went and grabbed the shoulder as

530
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 4: soon as he was slammed down.

531
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Speaker 1: Boy, you don't like to see that right there.

532
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 5: Guys, the headline's going to read Kurt Warner back in

533
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 5: Saint Louis. Looks like the rest of this game, maybe

534
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 5: the rest of the foreseeable future. Left collarbone injury on

535
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 5: Matt liner is the official word return doubtful.

536
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 12: We missed a pick up on a pressure against the Rams,

537
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 12: I think it was, and knocked Matt out. When that happened,

538
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 12: it was, you know, obviously a setback for Matt, but

539
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 12: we felt, well, now we're going to see about Kurt

540
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 12: just in being able to run the offense. Which you know,

541
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 12: that's the reason that you feel comfortable about having a

542
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 12: guy like that is because of his experience. So when

543
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 12: that happened, we were disappointed for Matt, but you know,

544
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 12: obviously we felt good about Kurt.

545
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 6: I know as well as anybody. I got my opportunity

546
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 6: because somebody got injured, and you never wish that upon anybody.

547
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 6: But obviously, you know, going too Saint Louis and Matt

548
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 6: suffering the separated shoulder, was that opportunity for me to

549
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 6: get back in there and kind of run the show again.

550
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 5: Of course, it wasn't without its challenges, like the very

551
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 5: next week against Carolina and Pro Bowl pass rusher Julius Peppers.

552
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: Back to throat goes Warner, pressure and fubble the ball.

553
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: Pepper sacked him and the balls loose and Peppers has

554
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 4: it at the thirty seventy yard line and Peppers fell

555
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 4: on Warner's left arm, and Warner shaking his elbow as

556
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 4: he came off.

557
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 12: You know, he was convinced that he could still play,

558
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 12: and that's the reason he's in the Hall of Fame

559
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 12: because of that mentality. He believed in himself and you know,

560
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,719
Speaker 12: he certainly backed it up.

561
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 5: Just talked to the Cardinals coaches.

562
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: Kurt Warner is.

563
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 5: The starter today, guys, full go until he shows he

564
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 5: can't handle the pain. Essentially, he is going to do

565
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 5: everything they possibly have in the playbook as if he

566
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 5: was fully healthy until he demonstrates otherwise. In fact, look

567
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 5: for him to hand the ball off exclusively with his

568
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 5: right hand. He'll be backhanding some of the handoffs just

569
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 5: to keep some of the strain off the left arm.

570
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: The number one prerequisite to playing that position, you had

571
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: to be tough. You would not be able to play

572
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: it well if you are not a tough individual. But

573
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: he was tall.

574
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 12: There was no way that you were going to get

575
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 12: him out, you know, even with the elbow, and it's

576
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 12: a credit to his toughness and his drive and his competitiveness.

577
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: You got a guy with no tendon in his left

578
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: elbow with tape jobs and braces that he's completing fastest.

579
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 5: Kirk played every game the rest of the way in

580
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 5: seven and finished the last month on fire, throwing three

581
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 5: touchdown passes in each of the final four games.

582
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Speaker 12: In the last half of that two thousand and seven season,

583
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 12: we kind of honed in on what he did well,

584
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 12: what we did well, and we became a lot better

585
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 12: as a team. We finished the year, you know, eight

586
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 12: and eight, which was big for us.

587
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 6: Things started to change for us that people started to

588
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 6: see me as the player that I was, and people

589
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 6: started to see our team and saying, this team's got

590
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 6: some pieces, this team's got a chance. You know now

591
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 6: that they you know, they're starting to build something that

592
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 6: you know, they could turn the corner and this could

593
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 6: be a different Arizona Cardinal team than we've seen in

594
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 6: the past. You know, I remember going in and having

595
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 6: a conversation with coach just basically saying, is this at

596
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 6: OVID competition? Is the best player going to play? How

597
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 6: is this you know, really going to play out? I

598
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 6: just want to know from my mindset going in, do

599
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 6: I have a chance to play? And he told me yes.

600
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 12: We thought because of the way we finished the two

601
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 12: thousand and seven season that it was fair to give

602
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 12: him a chance. It was good to see how they

603
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 12: handled it. It was good to see how the competition went.

604
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 12: And you know, in all fairness, Kurt won it.

605
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 5: And the decisive moment was the all important third preseason

606
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 5: game when Liner threw three picks with a passer rating

607
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 5: of just two point eight, soon after Warner went from

608
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: mentor to starter.

609
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 10: You know, it was a fair chance.

610
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 5: I believe.

611
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 10: I really do believe that, and I think we both

612
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 10: played well and they made a decision with Kurt. That's

613
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 10: as simple as that, and it's my job to stay

614
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 10: focused and to prepare every single day like I'm the starter.

615
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 10: That's what I'm going to do, take advantage of the

616
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 10: reps when I do get it, and support him one

617
00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 10: hundred percent.

618
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 6: Believe that I can bring something to any team that

619
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 6: I'm with.

620
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: I believe I.

621
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 6: Can do that with this team here. I think the

622
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 6: coaches have seen that, and with that experience in what

623
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 6: we started last year, I think that probably gave me

624
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 6: the leg up over anything.

625
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 5: Up and down would describe the two thousand and eight

626
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 5: regular season. Kirk had a perfect passer rating Week two

627
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 5: against the Dolphins. Cardinals won an ot thriller against the

628
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 5: Cowboys on a block punt in the end zone. Cardinals

629
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: would clinch the division title early, but down the stretch

630
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 5: there was a lopside of loss at Philly on Thanksgiving night,

631
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 5: a snow game, jack stomping in New England, leading to

632
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 5: that worst playoff team ever Moniker, but Kurt Warner would

633
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 5: finish with the third best passer rating in the league,

634
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 5: loss three one thousand yard receivers and once the Big

635
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 5: Red got to the postseason, well, like Ron Wolfley says,

636
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 5: hold onto your butts.

637
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: It's a playflicker. Warner gonna throw deep near sight, going

638
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 4: for fans.

639
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: He's in double coverage. It doesn't matter. He caught it anyway. Touchdown, Cardinals.

640
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner could throw a twinkie into a toaster.

641
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is on fire.

642
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 4: Warner with a ton of time throwing right side, fits open, caught.

643
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: In the five, heading for the pylon, and he is

644
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 2: gonna be ruled EO. Cardinals worry Fitzgerald.

645
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 4: Warner takes back to throw faith left side. Fitzgerald pig

646
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: on it.

647
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: Touchdown, his third of the day. It's twenty to six Arizona.

648
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: Wow, Kurt Warner isn't in the zone. He is the zone.

649
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: That's it. The Cardinals half shot the world. It's right

650
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: for true. The Cords have done it. They're going to

651
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl forty three.

652
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 5: The QB, who was supposedly on the down side of

653
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 5: his career, showed the world how much upside there really

654
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: was in his game and his team.

655
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 13: We're nobody else believed in us. We're nobody else believed

656
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 13: in me. You guys did, and we're going to the

657
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 13: super Bowl.

658
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 5: A surreal moment because unlike the Cardinals franchise, Kurt he'd

659
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 5: been to the Big Game before twice, a fact not

660
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 5: lost on fans, opponents, and most importantly, his old locker room.

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Speaker 5: They believe, like Olyman Douce Latui and receiver Larry Fitzgerald.

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Speaker 7: The threat he imposed upon the defense. I mean he

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Speaker 7: had them on their toes and you saw the magnificence.

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Speaker 7: I mean he changed the team mentality inside out.

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Speaker 14: His experience, his knowledge of the game. He knows exactly

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Speaker 14: what's going on. It's hard for you to confuse him

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Speaker 14: because he's seen every look you can throw at him.

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Speaker 14: He's seen every blitz. His demeanors is so I've been

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Speaker 14: there before, I've done this, and he is really comforting

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Speaker 14: to look in his eyes and know that he's done

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Speaker 14: this before. And now you've got to do out to

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Speaker 14: go out there and just make sure you do your job.

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Speaker 4: Warner, the pass with time fires over the middle of

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Speaker 4: the fits.

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Speaker 2: Put it the forty five fifth day, but.

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Speaker 4: This this forty thirdy goodbye, Harkins lead put down where it.

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Speaker 2: Ben Gerald, you've gotta.

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Speaker 4: Be kidding me to the holl Larry Fitzgerald a sixty

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Speaker 4: four yard touchdown pass by Warner to mitz Gerald and

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals lead Super Bowl forty three.

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Speaker 5: Of course, that's Kurt defits with just over two and

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Speaker 5: a half minutes to play. As we know how that

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00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 5: Super Bowl ended, what we did not know was that

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Speaker 5: Kurt was not done and he'd yet to play maybe

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Speaker 5: his greatest game ever.

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Speaker 4: And here comes one of the greatest quarterbacks in NFL

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Speaker 4: postseason history, and that's the Cardinals signal caller, Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 6: I think about the last game that I played in

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Speaker 6: State Farm Stadium or University of Phoenix Stadium. You could

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00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 6: argue it was the best football game that I ever played.

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00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 4: Fires over the middle, It's caught inside the ten yard line,

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Speaker 4: inside the five touchdown. Early this set, Warner's got time,

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Speaker 4: steps up, throws over the middle, gets caught by two

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Speaker 4: set at of.

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Speaker 2: Ten spins out of a tack with the five. New

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Speaker 2: set takes it.

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Speaker 4: Up with the touchdown, throwing over the middle Fitzgerald wide

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Speaker 4: over to the twenty. Most of the ten fits us

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Speaker 4: on where a legend does it again In the playoff,

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Speaker 4: warnerhead ball floats out of their diving cats.

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Speaker 2: Anyway by Beds in the hands.

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Speaker 4: Off touchdown, Warner's got it back to pass steps up

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Speaker 4: throws over the middle.

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Speaker 2: What a catch by chresta touchdown, Arizona boy.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you he has been absolutely on fire, like

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Speaker 1: I've never seen him on fire.

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Speaker 9: Kurt Warner. He had more touchdown passes than he did incompletions.

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Speaker 9: Can you put his performance into perspective?

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Speaker 12: One of the best playoff quarterbacks ever, and Kurt was

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Speaker 12: in a special place and it showed up today. You

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00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 12: know he was on he was on his game. He

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Speaker 12: was fired up.

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Speaker 5: Kurt's last home game one of the greatest playoff performances

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Speaker 5: ever and maybe his best game ever where the Cardinals

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Speaker 5: beat the Packers in overtime.

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Speaker 6: I think I played as good a football those three

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Speaker 6: years with the aar Zona Cardinals as I did those

718
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Speaker 6: three years with the Saint Louis Rams.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I went to.

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Speaker 6: Two Super Bowls and won two MVPs with the Rams,

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Speaker 6: but I still believed in my mind I was just

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Speaker 6: as good a quarterback, if not better, with the Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: Those MVPs and Super Bowls led to the Cardinals Ring

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Speaker 5: of Honor and the Pro Football Hall of Fame not

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Speaker 5: possible without his career revival in the Desert.

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Speaker 6: I love the way my career played out. Very few

727
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Speaker 6: quarterbacks are able to go from place to place to

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Speaker 6: place and to have winning and to have culture change

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Speaker 6: follow them. That to me is what I hang on

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Speaker 6: to more than anything else.

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Speaker 5: And there you have it, Cardinals Folk Tales presented by

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Speaker 5: seventy two sold Kurt Warner renaissance Man Special thanks to

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Speaker 5: executive producer Jim Almalhundro associate producer Cody Fincher. My name

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Speaker 5: is Paul Calvic and we'll leave the last word to

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Speaker 5: Kurt on what stands out the most.

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Speaker 6: There is nothing greater in team sports than being able

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Speaker 6: to be a catalyst for.

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Speaker 5: Change and to think. Kurt admitted later that he considered

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Speaker 5: retirement in two thousand and six after first round rookie

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Speaker 5: Matt Liner took over the starting gig. Yet, when Kurt

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Speaker 5: did retire after the nine season, he held the Cardinals

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Speaker 5: franchise records for completion percentage and passer rating, as well

743
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Speaker 5: as three hundred yard games and consecutive games with a

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Speaker 5: touchdown pass twenty two in a row. In his six

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Speaker 5: Cardinals postseason games, Kurt Warner threw four to sixteen touchdowns

746
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Speaker 5: in only four picks. And yes, Kurt's two thousand and

747
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Speaker 5: eight Super Bowl season featured team records in passer rating

748
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Speaker 5: and touchdown passes and completion percentage, and all told, Kurt

749
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 5: actually threw four more passing yards in Arizona than he

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Speaker 5: did in Sant Louis. But Kurt's impact went so far

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Speaker 5: beyond the box score. As a Cardinal, Kurt earned the

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Speaker 5: NFL's prestigious Walter Payton Mann of the Year Award, deservedly

753
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Speaker 5: sold for all his extensive work in the community. But

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Speaker 5: if there was an award for culture, Kurt's leadership in

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Speaker 5: the locker room. His impact throughout the Cardinals organization was

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Speaker 5: poignant and pivotal to the Cardinals' success ever since. Almost

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Speaker 5: a permanent Big Red Reset. And when we come back,

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Speaker 5: we'll bring back former Cardinals Pro Bowl a Ron Wolfley,

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00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 5: who called every game of Kurt Warner's Cardinals career. This

760
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Speaker 5: is a special Cardinals Folktales edition to the Big Red Rage,

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Speaker 5: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert the Legacy of Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 5: The Ring of Honor member of the Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 5: not only changed the culture, but he changed the game

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Speaker 5: in so much any ways. For the Arizona Cardinals. It's

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Speaker 5: our very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of the Big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage Presentavice santan Ford and Gilbert Paul Kelvic Ron

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00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 5: Wolfley for wrapping it up, think about a wolf. He

768
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 5: was the point man, the trigger man for the greatest

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Speaker 5: show on turf, and then he was the trigger man,

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Speaker 5: the catalyst for change. That was the shock the world. Cardinals.

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Speaker 5: Kurt Warner didn't just lead to franchises to the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: He really revolutionized and reset a couple of franchises into

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Speaker 5: winning ways that were lasting in so many ways.

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Speaker 1: He really did bully. And you know, of course, there

775
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: are always when you talk about a football player, tangibles

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Speaker 1: and there are intangibles, and Kurt had them both. The tangible,

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Speaker 1: very tangible physical presence that Kurt had because of his

778
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Speaker 1: incredible accuracy, he was one of the more accurate quarterbacks

779
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Speaker 1: that has ever played in the National Football League. His

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Speaker 1: release to Paully Own, that thing would come out quickly

781
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: from Kurt Warner in not only that, but his brain.

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Speaker 1: Those were the physical attributes of Kurt, Those were the

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Speaker 1: things he really brought to the football field, but the

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Speaker 1: intangibles that came with that, Paulie, he had one of

785
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: the greatest gifts that any quarterback could ever have, and

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Speaker 1: that was to keep your eyes down the field, regardless

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Speaker 1: of what it was going on around you. Paul, That

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. Just watching Kurt, it was astounding.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this many times, PAULI, but to see

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00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: the pocket collapsing around Kurt Warner and suddenly you thought

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00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: he was sacked. And then this arm would come out

792
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: and Paul, You've seen this from the sideline many times.

793
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: His arm would come out from the all of these

794
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: helmets that were around him and suddenly throw a strike

795
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: on the deep end coming into and kwombolden. His ability

796
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 1: to keep his eyes downfield just into none, Paul.

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Speaker 5: The pocket would swallow up Kurt Warner and then this

798
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 5: periscope would come out like a submarine and then boom

799
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 5: the ball's downfield. The accuracy, the anticipation, the ability to

800
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 5: read and react all skills honed in the Arena League

801
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 5: ultra fast. You had to be really quick with your

802
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: mind and with the release. Think about some of the

803
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 5: all time moments too, not just the biggest moments. We

804
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 5: talked about the five touchdowns and only four incompletions out

805
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 5: dueling in Aaron Rodgers. We talked about that, the Super

806
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 5: Bowl run, but don't forget about late fourth quarter playoff

807
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 5: opener against Atlanta, third and sixteen. Roun Wolfleo, when you're

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Speaker 5: looking to seal the game.

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Speaker 1: Incredible, Paulie that you bring that up right there, because yes,

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Speaker 1: this is when I think of Kurt Warner. I think

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Speaker 1: of this play as well. This was a critical point

812
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Speaker 1: in the game. The Cardinals were trying to ice the deal.

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Speaker 1: They had a third and sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Is that what it was?

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Speaker 1: Polly again, a third and sixteen, and suddenly they run

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Speaker 1: Steven Spock the tight end. Now, Steven Spock was a

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00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: good football player, Okay he was, but man, this was

818
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: no This was no juggernaut when it came to receptions

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Speaker 1: and Kwon Bolden, Yes, Larry Fitzgerald, yes, Steve Preston, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you know Steven Spock. No, not a third string tight

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Speaker 1: end exactly. And yet Kurt Warner hit him down the

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00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: scene to ice this game, to put it on ice

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. And that is that is something that

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Speaker 1: Kurt also did. He would throw the ball to the

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Speaker 1: open man and did not care. He cared about schemes.

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Speaker 1: Kurt was all about the scheme and not just the

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Speaker 1: skulls that were fulfilling the scheme. He cared about the

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Speaker 1: scheme and he would throw it to the open man.

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Speaker 1: And because of that, one of the greatest moments in

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Speaker 1: Cardinal history throwing to Steven Spock on third and sixteen.

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Speaker 5: It didn't get set enough. He was almost like a

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Speaker 5: de facto offensive coordinator. He would work with Todd Hailey

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Speaker 5: in the offensive staff in devising the game plan. They

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Speaker 5: would wait for his inut on a Monday. And then

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Speaker 5: the toughness look mentally tough, physically tough. I mean he

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Speaker 5: almost got ripped apart by Julius Peppers and then all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden he had to learn to hand the

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00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 5: ball off with his throwing arm because his left arm

839
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 5: was no longer functional. So there was the toughness aspect

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Speaker 5: of being a quarterback as well.

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Speaker 1: That is something that nobody talks enough about in regard

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Speaker 1: to gray Beard as well, and the reason being PAULI

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Speaker 1: is because think of how many hits he took. Now

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Speaker 1: you know, listen, Kurt's gonna tell you I could run.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I could run?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 1: Kurt still in his day, says he could have run

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Speaker 1: the ball a lot more. And you know, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know about that gray Beard. All I know is

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Speaker 1: he took a beating many many times inside the pocket

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Speaker 1: when that arm wouldn't come out.

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Speaker 5: And to think his career started in Packers' training camp

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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety four when his future wife Brenda watched and

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Speaker 5: heard a fan say, nah, that Kurt Warning, guy's just

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00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 5: a camp arm. And then she realized camp arm meant

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Speaker 5: you're not gonna make the team. And after that he

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Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame, and he changed the fortunes of

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Speaker 5: two franchises, including the Arizona Cardinals. For executive producer Jim Amhandro,

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Speaker 5: associate producer Cody Fincher, Ron Wolfley on Paul Calvec This

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Speaker 5: has been a Cardinals foll Tales edition of The Big

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Speaker 5: Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert.

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