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Speaker 1: You guys have been listening to Lines and Times for

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Speaker 1: a while. I appreciate everybody who's clicked subscribe. I'm really

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Speaker 1: excited about this because my buddy Daniel Vasquez is going

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Speaker 1: to be joining me on Lines and Times. We're looking

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Speaker 1: forward to this venture. It's going to be really good.

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Speaker 1: Daniel's backstory we're going to learn a little bit about

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Speaker 1: that today. But he decided to leave West Palm Beach,

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Speaker 1: Florida fishing Lake o Kochobe whenever he wanted to broaden

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Speaker 1: his horizons and try to make it as a professional

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Speaker 1: bass fisherman. Last year he ran as the bass master

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Speaker 1: on the co Angler side, finished with top tens.

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Speaker 2: Pretty incredible, yeahs.

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Speaker 3: So it's actually a pretty crazy story.

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Speaker 4: So, like you said, last year, I fished bass master

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Speaker 4: and finished luckily in the top ten for the co Anglers.

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Speaker 4: And I told myself going into last year that if

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Speaker 4: I had made the top ten as co Anglers, then

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Speaker 4: I try to make a decision to you know, pursue

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Speaker 4: professional fishing.

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Speaker 3: But I never thought it would take me to Alabama.

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Speaker 4: So we were here in Alabama for the Logan Martin

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Speaker 4: event and it was a stellar event for me, but

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Speaker 4: my wife and I just fell in love with the

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Speaker 4: area and we're like, you know what, this is where

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Speaker 4: we have to be. And so after I finished last year,

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Speaker 4: we started the house hunt and we found a home

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Speaker 4: packed up all our stuff.

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Speaker 3: I sold my business and here we are in Alabama.

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Speaker 1: That has kicked off your pursuit of becoming a professional

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Speaker 1: tournament angler. Yes, a lot of people have brought up

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Speaker 1: professional tournament anglers. Can you explain to me what you

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Speaker 1: think is a professional tournament angler?

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Speaker 4: So a professional tournament angler, in my opinion, can be

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Speaker 4: a co angler or professional angler who represents the sport

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Speaker 4: of bass fishing the right way.

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Speaker 3: I'm in a professional.

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Speaker 4: Manner who does tournaments, you know, tries to maintain sponsorships

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Speaker 4: and you know, tries to branch out and teach more

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Speaker 4: people about the sport of bass fishing. In my opinion,

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Speaker 4: it's not just based off the guy in the front

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Speaker 4: of the boat.

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Speaker 3: Anybody can be a professional fisherman.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, you know, you need to have a little bit

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Speaker 4: of notoriety and have some tournament skills behind you to

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Speaker 4: be able to, you know, push that envelope.

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Speaker 1: I've been watching you since you moved to Alabama and

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Speaker 1: we fished together, and you know, we do some tournaments

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Speaker 1: together and things like that. I don't really know much

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Speaker 1: about your background, so take me through it. When you're

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Speaker 1: a kid, where were you born, where were you raised?

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Speaker 2: What got you into fishing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was born in Los Angeles. My mom

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Speaker 4: and dad separated when I was just a young kid,

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Speaker 4: so I went from Los Angeles to New Hampshire a

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Speaker 4: lot when I was a young kid.

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Speaker 2: And because your dad stayed in LA Yeah, that's exactly right. Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were you were having to see your

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Speaker 1: mom jumping on a plane. Did you have to ride

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So my sister and I would go for a while,

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Speaker 4: but then once I was eighteen, I was making the

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Speaker 4: trip by myself. After I was eighteen, you know, custody

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Speaker 4: stops and all that when you're a young kid.

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Speaker 2: Well, you were going to college then days, right.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: So but it was really cool because I could be

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Speaker 4: in New Hampshire fishing over there, and then during the

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Speaker 4: summers I'd go to California and hang out with my

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Speaker 4: dad and fish all those lakes over there.

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Speaker 3: So it was just awesome.

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Speaker 1: How different was the fishing in New Hampshire compared to

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Speaker 1: night in LA. And then how different is the fishing

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Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, California, Florida and Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Everything is night and day. Everything is night and day.

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Speaker 4: So not only just a species of bass that you're targeting,

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Speaker 3: When you go to California.

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Speaker 4: It's really crazy how when you go into certain places

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Speaker 4: up there, it's super finesse fishing, like six pound tests,

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Speaker 4: really well for people that you know, end up moving

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Speaker 1: Skeeet Reese was a California guy, right, Yes, yeah, was

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Speaker 1: Aaron Martin's a California guy.

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Speaker 2: You move to Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's actually this is a crazy story.

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Speaker 4: So the first basque club I ever entered was in

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Speaker 4: when he was coming out with the Roboworms and all that,

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Speaker 4: and he spoke at our bass club and I'll never

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Speaker 4: forget it.

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Speaker 3: That was the first time. I think.

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Speaker 4: I think this is before he was even on the

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Speaker 4: Elite series or anything. He was just a regular regular guy.

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Speaker 1: When you're living in California as a kid, were you

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Speaker 3: I've been involved in fishing since I was eight years old.

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Speaker 2: So how'd you get on the water for the first time.

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Speaker 3: The first time was with my stepfather.

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Speaker 4: He took us bluegill fishing, and I just I remember

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Speaker 4: watching him catch bluegill after bluegun. I was like, I

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Speaker 4: want to do that really, Yeah, it was so crazy.

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Speaker 1: So most of the time of bluegill fishing, like you're

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Speaker 1: casting a rod maybe three feet Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, he was throwing this little spinner. I remember vividly.

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Speaker 4: We were on we were in this orange canoe and

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Speaker 4: he stowing this little tiny like in spin, like this

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Speaker 4: little inline spinner. Yeah, and just wearing the blue gill

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Speaker 4: do this by myself. So he let me go out

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Speaker 4: the next day canoe fishing all by myself, and so

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Speaker 2: To do it. Do you actually got Youah, actually gotten.

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Speaker 3: A canoe and paddled out at like eight or nine

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Speaker 1: So you wore out the blue gill and then you

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Speaker 1: came back and you were immediately like, hey, I want

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Speaker 1: to start targeting bass or was it just as you

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Speaker 1: got older you started to get a little more impacted

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Speaker 4: So naturally, you know, us fisherman, you know, they say

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Speaker 4: the bluegills where we start, and then you know, circumstantially

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Speaker 4: you end up hooking a bass. You know, while you're

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Speaker 4: doing that, you're targeting fishing. You know, because I was

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Speaker 4: just circumstantially caught a bass one day. And when that happened,

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, I gotta do this again.

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Speaker 1: People don't but people don't realize it because you caught

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Speaker 1: the gear at the time probably wasn't the greatest thing ever,

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Speaker 1: right Shakespeare. Yeah, the two piecee completely crossed. But you

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Speaker 1: and you watched this thing take off, but you want

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Speaker 1: you to land that fish?

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Speaker 4: Man, dude, it's so hard to remember the memory that hard.

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Speaker 4: But it probably only a couple of seconds. Oh really,

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Speaker 4: it probably wasn't even a big one. You know, I

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Speaker 4: think it was a small mouth because we were staying

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Speaker 4: I really started catching my first couple of bass.

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Speaker 1: So you don't know this about me, but as a kid,

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Speaker 1: I didn't do any fishing, and I grew up on

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Speaker 1: a phenomenal large mouth bass fishery.

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Speaker 2: It's called Smith Mountain Lake.

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Speaker 1: It's in the southwestern corner of Virginia and MLF is

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Speaker 1: going there this year for heavy hitters. And you know

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Speaker 1: when they do that event, that's big fish, like that's

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Speaker 1: all they care about. They have really done such a

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Speaker 1: good job maintaining that fishery and get it going for

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Speaker 1: but I didn't know anybody that knew how.

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Speaker 2: We had this little tackle shop.

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Speaker 1: And this memory came up when you were talking about

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Speaker 1: going out and buying tackle, because I remember this and

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Speaker 1: I still have these things in my boat.

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Speaker 2: I went and.

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Speaker 1: Bought a storm Wigglewart crank bait, and I remember going

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Speaker 1: painted storm wiggle Wart and he goes, they are lighting

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'll buy it. So I gave him

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Speaker 1: trying to work this thing back on, like one of

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Speaker 1: those crappy Shakespeare rods and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: And eventually I gave it up. I literally took that rod.

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Speaker 1: I never even cut the bait off of it. I

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Speaker 2: Didn't know how to.

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Speaker 1: Fish, didn't know anybody knew, and I was tired of it.

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Speaker 1: I went back to my house five years ago after

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Speaker 1: who actually showed me how to fish, and I caught

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Speaker 1: an amazing striper. I was like, dude, this thing is huge.

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Speaker 1: But I went down into my basement and I saw

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Speaker 1: that rod and I saw that crank bait, and I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm cutting that thing off because

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Speaker 1: that was the first thing that linked me to it.

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Speaker 2: I have it in my boat. I'll never throw it nice.

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Speaker 3: That's cool. That's a good memory.

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Speaker 2: Those like those things with fishing.

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Speaker 1: When you bring those memories up from being a kid,

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Speaker 1: they impact you so much.

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Speaker 3: They really do. They really do.

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Speaker 4: It's actually kind of entertaining how you don't remember certain things,

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Speaker 4: but when it comes to the things that you really love,

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Speaker 4: you just remember everything.

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Speaker 3: You remember the fine details.

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Speaker 1: If you asked me when I was sixteen years old,

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Speaker 1: like do you remember the fishing memory and all that kind,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you, Like I wouldn't have brought that up.

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Speaker 1: It took somebody bringing me out who knew what they

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Speaker 1: were doing, to show me the ropes let me land

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Speaker 1: a fish. And then all of a sudden, I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I remember when I was a kid.

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Speaker 1: I remember going to that tackle shop. I remember when

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Speaker 1: they had cash on delivery, so you would watch something

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Speaker 1: on TV and infomercial and then you could call and

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Speaker 1: they would send you the product and then you'd have

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Speaker 1: I got these things called flying lures. I never you're sweet, dude,

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Speaker 1: but if you think about it now, like Berkeley came

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Speaker 1: out with what the kreje. Yeah, so it's a jerk

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Speaker 3: You Thinklly won one time?

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Speaker 4: I think Ikenelly actually had done well on the Federation

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Speaker 1: Lake Winnipesake is in a movie called What About Bob

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be cool? Though?

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Speaker 1: Make the announce that it's Lake Winnipesake in New Hampshire

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Speaker 2: Do you think they could do that? I think that'd

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Speaker 4: That would be really cool. I just I would never

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So and that's another

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Speaker 2: The money side. Take that out right.

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Speaker 1: If we're talking about recreation, it's cheaper for people to.

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Speaker 4: Fishing, absolutely, and that is the main deal is because

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Speaker 1: First You start fishing these tournaments, you're fishing with like

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Speaker 4: It's to anybody that can do it. Being a co

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Speaker 1: Does that come into your mind when you're doing these tournaments,

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Speaker 4: Yes, so when I'm a I hate to say it,

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Speaker 1: So what would you say is the etiquette of being

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Speaker 1: you know the guys that are on the back of

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Speaker 1: the boat, and you're like, they might catch three fish,

443
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Speaker 1: but it's going to be for three pounds, four pounds,

444
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,679
Speaker 1: whatever you target, and you do things differently on the

445
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 1: back of the boat. And I think there's really in

446
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Speaker 1: most major tournaments, say a two hundred boat field, I

447
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 1: feel like there's only about ten or twelve of those guys.

448
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 3: So it's about keeping an open mind.

449
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,719
Speaker 4: And you still, even though you're not the boater, you

450
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 4: have to still try to understand what the fish are doing.

451
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,720
Speaker 4: Just because you're with your voter who's putting you on fish,

452
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Speaker 4: you still it's essential that you understand what the fish

453
00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 4: are still doing seasonally, weather wise, bait, why lower wise,

454
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 4: line wise, everything. You really have to pay attention to

455
00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 4: the little intricacies even more than the boater does to

456
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Speaker 4: be a successful colling.

457
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Speaker 1: Do you think that's because you're trying to you're not

458
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Speaker 1: fishing against the boater.

459
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Speaker 3: No, we're fishing completely two different tournaments.

460
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Speaker 1: But you're also looking at it as I know there's

461
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Speaker 1: another line in the water and they might be targeting something.

462
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Speaker 1: But if they don't hit this one thing that I

463
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Speaker 1: think they're at, I'm gonna take an opportunity and pick

464
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Speaker 1: that off.

465
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Speaker 4: And those those opportunities you get as a co angler

466
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 4: are very limited. So I've learned that you have to

467
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Speaker 4: take advantage of every opportunity that's given in front of you,

468
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 4: because you may only get as a co angler ten

469
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 4: opportunities in a day to throw to a good piece

470
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Speaker 4: of cover that you can actually have a chance at

471
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Speaker 4: catching a fish, or just not even cover, just somewhere

472
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,399
Speaker 4: where there may be fish. You may only have that

473
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Speaker 4: many opportunities, maybe not even that man.

474
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Speaker 1: Plus you might get one of those boaters that does

475
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Speaker 1: try to back boat you.

476
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 2: You know, everything out in front.

477
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Speaker 3: Of you, and that happens.

478
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 4: But at the same time, that can only happen so

479
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,360
Speaker 4: much during the day, so you will always have your opportunities.

480
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 3: And that's why it's.

481
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Speaker 4: Really disappointing to me to see the advent of Coengler's

482
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Speaker 4: just giving up, because no matter what, at the end

483
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 4: of the day, there you're gonna have your opportunities. It's

484
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 4: just how you utilize your opportunity.

485
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Speaker 1: And there's been so many people that have talked about like, oh,

486
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to be stuck behind a scoper and

487
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. I'm telling you, there are chances,

488
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 1: especially on a cloudy day, if you're sitting behind them.

489
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: Always scope buddy, you got a spot where you can throw.

490
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,719
Speaker 1: If they're targeting that brush pile on a sunny day,

491
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, those fish are going to sink into whatever

492
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: available cover that they have. But in my experience, where

493
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: there's a brush pile, there's a rock pile, or there's

494
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Speaker 1: a hard bottom, and you might be able to pick

495
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Speaker 1: off one or two that are just kind of straining

496
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Speaker 1: out to look for a little bait that's exactly.

497
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Speaker 3: Right, spencer, Yeah and so.

498
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Speaker 4: But a lot of guys they get it in their

499
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 4: head and they just instantly spin out. You know, if

500
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: they get behind some.

501
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Speaker 1: Doesn't that speak to the caliber of the type of

502
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: fish that's right?

503
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 4: And those are the guys, you know, those are the

504
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 4: guys that struggle on hard days. Not every day is

505
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 4: going to be the best fishing day of your life, right,

506
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 4: The best fishing days of your life are when you

507
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 4: win a tournament. Believe it or not, you have to

508
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 4: have fish the best three days of your life.

509
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 3: And that is what I try to do every single

510
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 3: time I go. I try to keep a level.

511
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 4: Heady, stay positive, just keep casting and never let any little,

512
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 4: any little negative emotion ever try to take over my head.

513
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 3: And if it does.

514
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 4: It's usually towards the end of the day, you know,

515
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 4: when I'm pretty much on my last cast and I'm

516
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 4: trying to figure out whether or not I'm even.

517
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: About the fact too that, like you know, an angler

518
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: or pro, a guy who's at the front of the

519
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 1: boat in a three day tournament, he's got his spots.

520
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: You know, you assume that.

521
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: He's gone out in practice, he's found fish, he's dialed

522
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: it in, he's cut his rods from twenty on the

523
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,639
Speaker 1: deck down to four on the deck. He knows what

524
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: he wants to do. All he has to do is

525
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: go out to the spots and catch him. As a

526
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: co angler, you get paired with that guy, you catch

527
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: your fish, you're in the lead, you're in the top ten.

528
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 1: The next day you get paired with somebody else they

529
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: might not be doing nearly as well.

530
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 2: It's a crapshoot.

531
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Speaker 1: That's why I think it's hard for a co angler,

532
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 1: But it's so rewarding when you have a good tournament

533
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 1: because you've had to battle and get through all these

534
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,239
Speaker 1: obstacles that the pro doesn't have.

535
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 4: Yes, So I don't know if most of you guys

536
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 4: remember this, but versatility is key and versatility has created

537
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 4: some of the best co anglers that turned out to

538
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 4: be professional fishermen. So backy, yeah, back in the day,

539
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 4: all these guys, every elite that you saw, they were

540
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 4: co anglers and they'd be on the back I mean

541
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,959
Speaker 4: they they most of them have relationships because of that.

542
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: It wasn't as split up where it was like half

543
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: of the day the other half you took.

544
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: The boat exactly.

545
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 4: So it's just the advent of things just changing in

546
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 4: the industry have made it a little bit more volatile

547
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 4: in the co angler world for.

548
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 3: Them to even want to compete.

549
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I hate to see it because

550
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 4: I want to be able to continue fishing as a

551
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 4: co angler.

552
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: But eventually I will be making the.

553
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: Move to where do you feel like you are now?

554
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: I'm about a year away. I don't I know, I

555
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: could probably do it right now. It's more based on

556
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 4: being realistic. I know right now with my move to Alabama,

557
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 4: my new transition into moving into the state, the most

558
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 4: realistic thing for me is to do is still to

559
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 4: fish as a coinler and just try to learn these lakes.

560
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: Why though, because I've for the most part, I have

561
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: not fish for spotted bass. As much as I fish

562
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 4: for smallmouth and largemouth bass, I'm still trying to learn livescope.

563
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: I'm still trying to learn.

564
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 4: Southern fishing beyond Florida, because Florida is not Southern fishing.

565
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 3: It's it's completely Flaish, It's Florida fishing. And that's what

566
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 3: I need to do.

567
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 4: If you see some of the best fishermen in the

568
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 4: world there from Alabama, and I knew that, and that's

569
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 4: where I moved here.

570
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 3: But I can't.

571
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: It would be naive of me to think that I

572
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 4: could just immediately jump into a bfl and even cash

573
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 4: as a boater.

574
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, if I could.

575
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 4: Fish every day, go out and do my homework, you

576
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But at the same time, I'm

577
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 4: not going to be stepping on people's toes. It all

578
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: comes down to boat numbers, all that stuff. So I

579
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 4: need to learn the lakes. Once I'm able to generate

580
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: that under my belt for the next year, you know,

581
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: relaxing my new home with my wife, sure, then I'll

582
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 4: be looking in the next year going full boar.

583
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: People don't know this about Alabama that aren't here. Some

584
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: do in like the neighboring states, Florida, Georgia places like that,

585
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: but they have an incredible I think it's as professional

586
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: as it gets without it being Bass Master or MLF.

587
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: And that's the Alabama bas trop Absolutely. I called Kay

588
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: Donaldson the other day because I started fishing the Northern Division,

589
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: and I called her the other day because our first

590
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: tournament was on Smith Lake, which is a huge spoted

591
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: bass deep water reservoir, clear as clear gets, and I

592
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 1: just called her to just say, hey, I don't know

593
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: if anybody's told you this, but you have by far

594
00:25:54,119 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: executed and run the best local tournament trail that feels professional.

595
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, you pull up to the ramp, you

596
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: know your boat number. They had a police officer who

597
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: asked what your number was. He radios it to the

598
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 1: person who's at the slips and they tell you what

599
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: ramp you're going to go on.

600
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Speaker 2: You're going to go on number two.

601
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

602
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 1: They got people backing you down. Then when you get

603
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: the boat in the water, you drive the truck and

604
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: they show you where to park. And then when you park,

605
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: if it's far away, they have a golf car pick

606
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: you up and bring you back. They've got guys that

607
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 1: are making barbecue and they're giving it out for free.

608
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: They're asking for donations phenomenal food.

609
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: Then you go to.

610
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: Way In and everything feels like a bass Master event.

611
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 1: You just don't have all the cameras, you don't have

612
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: all the glitz and all the glamor of being an elite,

613
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: but you can win fifteen grand. So I just wanted

614
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: to share with her that I think that it is

615
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: after fishing it for the first time. It's a tournament

616
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: trail I don't think I want to get out of.

617
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 3: And they have live. Yes, it's live, which is huge.

618
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: They're really doing a better job with the live side

619
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 1: because they're utilizing social media as they can because they

620
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: want to get more eyes on it. But the whole thing,

621
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: top to bottom, it just it runs perfectly. If you

622
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: were ever thinking about trying to get into the professional

623
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: ranks of fishing, going through the Alabama Bass Trail kind

624
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: of feels like the minor leagues to get there.

625
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: It's amazing.

626
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 3: They're all stuts. Everybody that's in that is an Alabama hammer.

627
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: We were going over weights and everybody was like, man,

628
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 1: I think it's going to take about fifteen pounds to win.

629
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: I said, I bet it's gonna take close to twenty

630
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: or twenty one, and it was nineteen some and it's

631
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: just because of the caliber how good these guys are,

632
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: and the winning team I think they had four largemouth

633
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: in one giant spot, so they weren't even going for

634
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: the prime fish that everybody likes to target on that lake.

635
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: They were like, put.

636
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: Me in the backwaters, get me in three foot of water,

637
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: make it dirty, and that's what I'm gonna try to catch.

638
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: That's awesome, it was incredible. All Right, we're gonna get

639
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: to learn Daniel little more. He's gonna be on the podcast.

640
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: We're also going to bring some of our friends from

641
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: the professional ranks. You know, Daniel spent a year doing

642
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: the co Angler sign with bass Master, fishing the top

643
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: ten fish with some really good dudes. These are guys

644
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 1: that are trying to go through the opens to get

645
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: the invitation to make it to the elites, and then

646
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: that's where the fun really begins. You know, I'm fortunate

647
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: where in Alabama, and now you'll know this too, ninety

648
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: percent of professional fishermen live within two hours of Birmingham,

649
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: so you're surrounded by a lot of good fishermen. We

650
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: were just talking about a guy the other day who

651
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: told you about a bait, and he's like, most guys

652
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: are scared to throw it, but that's a good one.

653
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: You google his name, and all of a sudden you

654
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: find out like, damn, dude, this guy is somebody.

655
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: He's a stud. Like, yeah, he's a study.

656
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: Not everybody knows his name, but in the fishing world

657
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned, all of a sudden people are like, yeah,

658
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: we know who that guy is.

659
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: I try to tell us. A couple of my friends

660
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: that are like, dude, why would you move Why would

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Speaker 4: you take all your life from self floor and then

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Speaker 4: just move to Alabama. I was like, because it's the

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Speaker 4: same thing as if you're an actor and you want

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Speaker 4: to become actor, you move to Hollywood. If you want

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Speaker 4: to be a professional bass fisherman, you moved to Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Is this a passion project for you?

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Speaker 3: Passion project? One hundred percent?

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Speaker 1: That baby sold your company, took your money, said to

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Speaker 1: your beautiful wife, We're gonna go to Alabama. She saw

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Speaker 1: a couple of the mountains here and she.

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Speaker 2: Was like, I'm in love, dude. Amazing.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Vasquez, He's gonna be onlines and times going forward,

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Speaker 1: which is gonna be awesome. And we'll give you guys

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Speaker 1: as much about not only fishing, we'll talk about hunting too,

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Speaker 1: because the hunting season is right around the corner. We

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Speaker 1: got birds that we got to chase, those thunder chickens

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Speaker 1: as we like to call them, the turkeys,