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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Anyeries and I'm

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Speaker 1: Lauren vocal Bomb. And this it's kind of a strange one,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to food Stuff, super food stuffed, action packed special

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Speaker 1: effor ex eppisode starring food. There will be blood, guts, vomits,

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Speaker 1: everything you can imagine, almost because a lot of foods

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Speaker 1: are a lot of effects that are produced in the

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Speaker 1: film and theater industry are made of food. Yeah, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we got to thinking about this. We were going to

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Speaker 1: try to make it for the Oscars, but that's happened.

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Speaker 1: Miss that, But it's still on our brain. And we

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Speaker 1: have our first non house stuff works in house and

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Speaker 1: guests us. We got to sit down with v Kelly

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Speaker 1: um who is a special effects human in the industry, um,

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Speaker 1: and and learn a couple of her a couple of

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Speaker 1: her secrets. Yeah yeah, but first, but first, what are

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Speaker 1: we talking about? Really well, food has long been used

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Speaker 1: in movies for practical special effects, particularly in horror movies,

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Speaker 1: which Annie and I are both big fans of. We

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Speaker 1: are I may have stayed up way too late watching

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Speaker 1: some last night. Um, I think the piece soup from

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Speaker 1: the Exorcist. That's a classic example. Food really brings it

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Speaker 1: when it comes to looking gross. Um, and sometimes food

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Speaker 1: is a stand in for non food things. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's used to create sound effects too. So it's got

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Speaker 1: a lot of uses, and we're gonna have to do

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Speaker 1: it entirely separate episode on food styling. That is the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. Real food presents all kinds of problems on

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Speaker 1: any set due to time and conditions. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: heat from the lights or or heat from the performers

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Speaker 1: are just the ambient temperature or dust in the air,

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Speaker 1: all sorts of things, you know, chocolate, melts, cheese, sweats, salad, wilts,

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Speaker 1: cut fruit, brown's, whole fruit, bruises, eggs, break performers have allergies. Uh,

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Speaker 1: anything and everything silly that you've ever had happened in

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Speaker 1: your kitchen. Multiplied by X number of people's time and money,

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Speaker 1: multiplied by x number of takes that you have to do,

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Speaker 1: it is some serious opportunity for Murphy's Law to kick in.

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Speaker 1: So therefore, food styling is a very particular art. It is, yes,

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Speaker 1: and and a lot of the time the food that

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Speaker 1: you see on camera is not food. Right for example,

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Speaker 1: in the first Harry Potter movie, the food in the

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Speaker 1: Great Hall was real. Um. At first, it caused some

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Speaker 1: second film, they're like, nah, we're not gonna do this anymore,

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Speaker 1: and they cast the food and resin. Yeah. One time

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Speaker 1: Force Awakens when in the beginning of the film when

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Speaker 1: Ray kind of scarfs that quarter portion of bready food. Yeah. Yeah, um.

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Speaker 1: That instantly rising bread was a practical effect that took

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Speaker 1: about three months to perfect. Um, and it was definitely edible,

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Speaker 1: though perhaps not particularly nutritional or tasty. I find that's

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Speaker 1: generally the case. Yeah, oh yeah, that's right, because you

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Speaker 1: have some experience with the sort of thing. That's all right.

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Speaker 1: I've done some acting myself. And on the question of

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Speaker 1: our actors really drinking that beer, no, probably not. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's most of the time you're not. It's probably near

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Speaker 1: beer near beer, near beer, which is very bland, carbonated,

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Speaker 1: meant to look like beer. Drink you can get Like recently,

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Speaker 1: near beer, so it's just corse late but not with

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Speaker 1: which is why actors usually use spit buckets puking. We'll

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Speaker 1: nausea too much. Convenient it is. There are some plus sides. Um. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But you know, yeah, I feel like it's Nicolas Cage.

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Speaker 1: from cocaine is probably wise for us to do. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about some historical uses of food in film, but

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Speaker 1: So on film, back in the black and white days,

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Speaker 1: Um is poisonous. Oh no, yeah, don't don't eat that one. Uh.

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Speaker 1: lot of interesting logistical questions. Oh yeah, you can find

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Speaker 1: more accomplished these days. Excellent. If you dropped a bucket

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Speaker 1: be it's a little lot better oscar Worthy. Okay, well

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Speaker 1: we can arrange for that, Lauren. Other than being a

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Speaker 1: little bit cold, eventually, it was a lot of fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so so. Corn corn serpent food coloring is is

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Speaker 1: it looks enough like blood that it looks like blood.

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Speaker 1: But there are just endless permutations of fake blood recipes

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Speaker 1: with varying degrees of edibility and or palatability. I suppose

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Speaker 1: UM non dairy creamer can provide some good opacity. UM

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Speaker 1: corn starch is excellent for thickening and also for opacity.

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Speaker 1: Peanut butter, chocolate syrup or gelatin can create a texture viscosity.

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Speaker 1: UM cocoa or instant coffee crystals can help with tinting,

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Speaker 1: mint extract is a really popular way to make recipes

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Speaker 1: less likely to upset your actors. Right, And speaking of

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Speaker 1: it chocolate goop like ghosts. It was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: kind of similar to the conjuring I've ever seen that,

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Speaker 1: or smushing pieces of apple with a shammy cloth was

425
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: what was used when Hannibal lecter ate a guard's face.

426
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: That's so interesting, like how did how do you come

427
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 1: up that? I don't know? Excellent. If you're looking to

428
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: recreate the sound of something creeping through the woods, look

429
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: no further than a bag of potato chips. The crunching

430
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: of a chip sounds like footfalls on dried dead leaves

431
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: or even dense underbrush. I believe I read Platoon used

432
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: that sound effect. And you can sprinkle shredded coconut over

433
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 1: lettuce leaves if you want to make a like snow

434
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: or ash fall. Yeah. Half coconuts that are filled with

435
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: a padding of some type. Actually you're used for horse hoofs,

436
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: as demonstrated in Monty Python I'm a Holy Girl. Yeah,

437
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: you can also use half coconuts for impacts to a skull,

438
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: hey may babe, along with some lettuce for that for

439
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: that fun crunch. Yeah. Yeah, that's our brief sound sound section,

440
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: And this brings us to our interview portion. Yeah, we

441
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: had v in the studio with us yesterday, so um,

442
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: so let's hear part of that conversation. We are joined

443
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: today by our film industry friend V Kelly. Hello, Hi,

444
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Uh so so so,

445
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: v Um, could you tell us a little bit about

446
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: your job? What what do you do? Why are you here? Um?

447
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 1: My usual answer to that question is I kill people

448
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: for a living. Oh my god, we've got to get

449
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: out of here now, lauring right now. We are in

450
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: a sound dampened room. Oh my goodness, it's the perfect drop.

451
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: So I work with them. I fake kill people. Okay,

452
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: that's that's better. So blood effects. I make fake weapons

453
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: and kill you with those, and then design how all

454
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: those things happen, whether it be theater or film. Um,

455
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: and build the organs that get ripped out of your chest.

456
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: And if we want that heart still thumping, I do that.

457
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, that's great. It's the best job, every

458
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: crazy dream job for sure. Uh so. Um. You're you're

459
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: tasked with creating all kinds of different effects. How often

460
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: does food get used in that, oh more than more,

461
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: more often than not. Um, I think because I do

462
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: a lot of work that is low budget, food ends

463
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: up being what we use. It's disposable, it's safer for people.

464
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: We're talking about just allergies to a food as opposed

465
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: to an allergic reaction to silicone or latex or something

466
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: like that. So food is just it's just safer, it's cheaper,

467
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: easier to clean. Is there a lot of experimenting food

468
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: and stuff? Oh? Yeah, you never. You never use the

469
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: same thing twice. You're never doing the same gag twice.

470
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: And the things that these writers and these directors and

471
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: they want and then having to deal with the camera

472
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: people and the costume people and want to ruin their

473
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: clothes propsy. But everybody is so worried about their own stuff.

474
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, why can't I just cover that all in blood?

475
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: Go on? I just bring up a bunch of bags

476
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: and drops, and you know, they end up looking like

477
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga covered in plastic bags so they don't get sprayed.

478
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: One of the last things I did up in North Georgia,

479
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: I had the bag, the cameras and all the walls,

480
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: so we didn't get any and they were like, where

481
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: is the blood going to go? And I was like,

482
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. Actually, I really don't know where this

483
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: blood is going to go. It's gonna go everywhere. Let's

484
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: just bag everything. So we do that and there's some

485
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: people off camera, like around the corner of a wall,

486
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: and I do my effect and it's a CEO two rigg.

487
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: It sprays all over the place. People that weren't even

488
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: in the room got covered in blood. What that's fantastic. Yeah,

489
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: that's says you sound like a blood wizard. Like the

490
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: sound that sounds physically impossible, but in a really fun way.

491
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Hope blood Wizard is on your resume. Yeah, it's my

492
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: Dan d character. Excellent. Speaking of blood, blood is kind

493
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: of like the classic effect. It's I mean because it

494
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: can go into any kind of movie, like a rom

495
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: com can have a blood effect in it. Um. What uh?

496
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: And I think that the classic recipe is just corn

497
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: syrup and food coloring, right, yeah, corn syrup, food coloring. Um.

498
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: I always we just got the food coloring out the

499
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: store at the grocery store. But I always recommend checking

500
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: the boxes because around Halloween people will take all the

501
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: red out of a little box and then you'll just

502
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: come home and all you'll have is green. And you're like,

503
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm not making alien blood today. I need old blood.

504
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: But you know you do wine. You do want reds

505
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: and blues and yellows in with your red. Um. I

506
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: like to use this color called caramel. Also it's a

507
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: little thicker of a food die. But you have all

508
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: these colors at your disposal. Um. I also pick up

509
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: jello boxes, like like a black cherry jello. You can

510
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: grab all those little packets and um, and that's great,

511
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: but you've got to think about how old is this blood?

512
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: Has it been rotting and drying on this person? Because

513
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: zombie blood is going to be darker and blacker is

514
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: this fresh blood is going to be a lot more

515
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: orange because me pumping out of you. Um. So you

516
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 1: basically just have to diet for for the occasion, the

517
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: blood occasion, so many blood occasions and in different thicknesses

518
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: and uh and and purposes for yeah again, like whether

519
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,959
Speaker 1: it's gonna be staining a clothing or if it's just

520
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: getting thrown around in buckets or exactly. Uh, I know

521
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: that soap is not a food item, but uh, I

522
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: mean that's a really good base for blood if you're

523
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: needing to get it off of clothes, like starting with

524
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: a laundry detergent. Also, it'll prevent the blood from beating

525
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: up because it's a surficant. I think I'm saying that

526
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: word wrong, but yeah, it helps, uh prevents beating Yes, yeah,

527
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: it changes the surface tension. Yeah, you obviously don't want

528
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: to use so for your mouth blood or anything like that.

529
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: You can use some like, uh, mouth wash would be

530
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: a good base for that. But yeah, yeah, what one

531
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: set that I was with with you on um you

532
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: gave the actors a tooth wash um to to stain

533
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: their teeth to make them kind of look like gross

534
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: and yellow and yeah and that was tea tree oil right, Yeah,

535
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: prevents ginger vitis. Good, So it's it's a kind of

536
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: dual purpose. Yeah, exactly, excellent. Well, like you know, the

537
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: mouth wash tends to be like if you're having to

538
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: pop that blood in your mouth, say it's a theater thing,

539
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of times during the whole run

540
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: a day or a night, and it can get it

541
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: can burn your mouth a little bit. So teachreola is

542
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: a little less invasive for you, and you know, just

543
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: put it in a little sandwich bag or something, tie

544
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: it quick, knot and they can keep the little pouch

545
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: of their mouth and then when they're ready to spit

546
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: that blood, they can bite down into it and squirt

547
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: that out, or they can swish with it to get

548
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: a nice toothwash of blood. Lovely. Who wants a zombie

549
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: or a vampire with pristine teeth? You need blood and

550
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: flesh bits on there, Yeah, flesh bits. Speaking of some

551
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: of that chunkier stuff. How how do you how do

552
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: the larger kind of kind of more viscous elements work,

553
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're making an organ or are

554
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: you just gonna go buy a pig organ? Well you can, um,

555
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: I've used to pig heart before they come and freeze.

556
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: They're huge, They're enormous, so you have to literally sow

557
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: these hearts back together with leathered wools. Oh wow, I mean,

558
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,239
Speaker 1: and the in the hot, hot heat of Georgia, it's

559
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: real fun to work with a bloody pig heart and

560
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: miraus carol syrup blood and you just turn that human

561
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: into like a fruit roll up and then they're holding

562
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: a real pig heart and that flies all over the place.

563
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: It's it's really glamorous. We use a lot of like

564
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: flour and water, a lot of dough stuff like biscuit dough.

565
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: You can get that get little cans that freak you

566
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: out when you try to pop them. Feel like I

567
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: can't put this spoon and then it pops and everything's okay.

568
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: And take that all it up into shapes, dip that

569
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: into some blood with different dyes. Vanilla pudding is really good.

570
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 1: Just getting like a butter scotch tapioca. Just globbing that

571
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: into stuff. You're gonna get pussy stuff that will get

572
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: nice and good with puss and blood on your organs. Uh.

573
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't recommend using real animal organs and cuts of meat.

574
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: We've shoved like a pork tender loin into a leg

575
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: that we saw it open one time and kind of

576
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: left that in there for a little too long, and

577
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: the smell of just brancid. It's just awful. Yeah, I

578
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: imagine it's a lot nicer like if, like if vanilla

579
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: pudding starts to get like just a little bit funky.

580
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean that stuff is made of science and magic

581
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: and like it's not so it's not gonna it's not

582
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: really going to go off the way that for sure

583
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: a tenderloin would I say, I would go with vegetables

584
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: more because you're gonna get that nice snap for the

585
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: bone if you're grunting through there. But flashy stuff like

586
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: using some melons. Melon is great, just carving cutting a

587
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: melon and carving it into the shape of whatever your need.

588
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: Treat it so it looks like a body part of

589
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: or an organ. But fruit and vegetables soak up dies

590
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: and stuff too, so you can shape that stuff and

591
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: carve it. There was another one I used. Um the

592
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: directors wanted this is another film in North Georgia. They

593
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: wanted a pighead, and and they wanted in several different forms.

594
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: They wanted it look like to look like it was cooked.

595
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Then we also had to cut the pighead. And then

596
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: we had a dream see Quince where it was used

597
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: as a mask. So I had to make a mold

598
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: and I didn't have time to sculpt. Like I'm I

599
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: was building the stuff out of the back of my

600
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: truck in a car port in the mountains of North Georgia,

601
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: and I'm like wearing a Jeffrey Dahmer apron and just

602
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: you know, if it starts raining, I just throw a

603
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: tarp and I just crawled in there and I used

604
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: my little mobile effects lab in there. But I didn't

605
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: have time to sculpture and make a mold. So the

606
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: prop's girl went to a farmer's market here in Atlanta

607
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: and drive it all the way up to Iowa see,

608
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: and I made a mold of this frozen pig head

609
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: and it, you know, he was, oh my goodness. I

610
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: used actual mold making supplies like that you used for bodycasting,

611
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: super extensive stuff, but normally takes about maybe twenty minutes

612
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: to cure. This took seven hours to cure. It turned

613
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: out great and I was able to make them pig

614
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: head mold and and it was fantastic. But there was

615
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: blood all inside of the mold and cleaning that out,

616
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: and it's just that's so cool. I don't recommend do anything.

617
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: What what about what about some of those um other

618
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: fun bodily fluids like I mean, like like clearly or

619
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean for for most directors anyway, you probably don't

620
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: want anything on set that's going to actually make people vomit.

621
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: So it depends on how much realism you're going for.

622
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: I suppose there's a lot of things that you can't

623
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: show on television. I never know what it is. There's

624
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: a lot of things you can't say. And um, I

625
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: don't think you can show feces, but we have on

626
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: your pretty bays. Um. I think it was season one.

627
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: Um My buddy Shade went to the crafty table and

628
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: crafty tables where you get all your snacks and stuff

629
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: on sets, and and it's like opening them a fridge.

630
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: He just open the fridge and you stare at it

631
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: for a minute and you walk away. The crafty tables

632
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: like that. So he went over there and he found

633
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 1: some crafty brownies and he got a little sandwich bag

634
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: and he cut a hole in the sandwich bag and

635
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: he shoved them brown He's in there and just squeezed

636
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: in out like it was icing, but because it's thick

637
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: like a brownie, it came out on little turts. I

638
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: landed it on our actor, Henry Zabowski's face, just landed

639
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: just beautifully, like across his face, and he was he

640
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: was actually hanging upside down at the moment, and it

641
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: submerged in a tub of water. I think he was

642
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: having flashbacks in there or something, but we've done that

643
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: to brownie is great for feces. Um. I think we

644
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: we've used like little kale spriggs and stuff to shove

645
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: in them, just to give it a little bit of

646
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: a fiber. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean that's what

647
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: we've used before. Like everything that you can find on

648
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: the grafty table is something that you can use for

649
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: vomit it. Just get yourself a nice space, like mushroom

650
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: soup is fantastic. Yeah. Um, adding something that gives a

651
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: little bit of color, some fruity pebbles or something. Just imagine,

652
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: just really think about what that person has eaten that

653
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: day and just you know, character specific like oatmeal is

654
00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: great and that'll like that'll swell and be dried or

655
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: whatever you want, depending And it's uh one that my buddy,

656
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: uh I think it was my buddy Marcus, Marcus Cotchi

657
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: who works out of l A. He his favorite thing

658
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: to do is uses corn, beef, hash and milk. Oh

659
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: my goodness, and it's disgusting. Yeah, that sounds real gross.

660
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: That sounds like I would gag a little bit for

661
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: real on that. Yeah. No, I mean, well I don't

662
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: recommend using real milk, use almond milk, because those lights

663
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: can make things not rely. Like you know those pictures

664
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: when you're a kid of the cereal boxes and there's

665
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: milk dripping on the spoon. That's Elmer's glue. Oh is

666
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: it really? They can't do that now you have to

667
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: use real food stuffs for that. But but yeah, don't

668
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: use real milk. Oh, and don't use honey, use maple syrup.

669
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: If you get a coat a human body, and honey

670
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: maple syrup works just fine. It's cheaper, it doesn't solidify

671
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: as quickly, so you can wash that awf a lot easier.

672
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Having the conversations with costume to be like, okay, well

673
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: do you have a double of this because I have

674
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: actual food dye in this blood or in this this

675
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: liver yeah, or this pig heart um, and and then

676
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: you know, and then we have to reset, reset again.

677
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: So you want to do things in like a very

678
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: trying to do things as quick as possible, So using

679
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: things that dies is really helpful. But you know the

680
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: conversations that I have with these directors too, it's just

681
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: it's like, well, do you mean how much after birth

682
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: do you want? I mean, how long has this this

683
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: this fish baby been on this woman's chest exactly. We

684
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: have an episode with with Bobcat Goldthwaite Miss Bits and

685
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: Monsters that I cannot share, but we did use bananas

686
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 1: as after birth in a in a pinch from from

687
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: Crafty craft Table. Oh yeah, it was great, just dripping

688
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: all over the actress that was dripping off the baby

689
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: and it's just it. You're like, what is that? What

690
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: the hell is that? It's just bananas smashed up. That's

691
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: so it's the actual common occurrence where like I mean,

692
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: like I assume that you have some kind of like

693
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: plan going in, but but then on set something changes,

694
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: or they ask for something slightly different, or you realize

695
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: it's someone that one of the actors has a coco

696
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: allergy or something like that, and all of a sudden

697
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: you're just like, okay, what stuff. There's some Cheetos perfect.

698
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean you have to pack for war,

699
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: like have a really nice kit, but that Crafty Table

700
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: is your best friend and Cheeto is great for brain stuff.

701
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: So I'll tell more about that later. But but you know,

702
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: you do have to you have to be you kind

703
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: of have to macguiver. You have to be the daughter

704
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: at me, my lady, the daughter of Martha Stewart and Macgiver.

705
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: So you have to be able to problem solve really

706
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: quickly and and and you get that by experience or

707
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: just just thrifty this. You know, you're just like, oh man,

708
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: this would be so cool. Let's try that because I know,

709
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: like I said, I never do the same gag twice

710
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: as a secret. All share diet soda. I mixed with

711
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: my blood a lot if I'm to be doing a

712
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: spray rig because it's already carbonated, so it has it

713
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: gives it a little extra yeah, and it and it

714
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: just gives it. It sprays out a lot better. You

715
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: get a little bit more of a dusting of the

716
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: of the blood and stuff. So diet cokes, I not

717
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: diet soda. Sure it's wearing it right. Also does our

718
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: coke here. That's the proper name for them. Very true,

719
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: very true. But I mean, like I can use silicone

720
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: for prosthetics and things like that, but but that that's

721
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: such a that's that stuffs so expensive. There's one store

722
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: in my area here in Atlanta, engineer guy. They're fantastic,

723
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: but there's one store within like a five mile radius

724
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: basically that sells all these special effects supplies, so people

725
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: in in more rural areas. Um, there's this woman. I

726
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: think it's like Tiffany Bays Special Effects or sf X on.

727
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: She's like seventeen. She's on Instagram. Found her on there.

728
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: Um she achs uh mortician's wax, which is some of

729
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: the oldest stuff that you can use. It's just paste

730
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: wack paraffin, yeah, basically, and it's a flesh tone. Um,

731
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: and you can make crazy wounds with a dress with

732
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: blood cover up seems without. It's fantastic stuff. But she

733
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: she posted that she uses flower and vasiline and that's

734
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: just a little coloring. I'm like, that's brilliant. I mean,

735
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: like for like scabs and scars and stuff like, yeah,

736
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: I like to build a profaility to have a gunshot

737
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: and have it like gaping open, a little skin flapping

738
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: like that's what she she used. And it looks like

739
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: the real stuff that we buy in the store, in

740
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: the special effects shop. That that stuff is great. I

741
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: mean scabs stuff you're talking about that's just jelly and

742
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: nutritional yeast. You know, you can get some weird stuff

743
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: out of your fridge for scabs. Well even not gory stuff.

744
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: Prosthetic wise, you can go through your your spice cabinet

745
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: or your mom's spice cabinet. You know the little unist stars.

746
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: They're they're beautiful, um the I mean, I guess you

747
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: can't really. I mean they're edible, I supposed just probably

748
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: horrible in one big bite. Yeah, you probably want to

749
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: eat a whole one, but you could. Yeah, you can

750
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 1: use that stuff for like Mermaid makeup. Glue it to

751
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: their head. It's really pretty. Maybe use some cake decorating supplies,

752
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: a little little pearl balls and stuff like that. You

753
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: can get pretty crazy with because special effects, I also

754
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: do special effects makeup or um special makeup effects or

755
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. It's turning people into

756
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: monsters or pretty people into monsters, or monsters into pretty

757
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: people whatever. But I mean you can get decorative. It

758
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: doesn't always have to beat gory. I mean, if you

759
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: wanted and making them dirty to um, dirtying up their

760
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: skin and or instead of using actual makeup, you can

761
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: use cocoa powders, you know, various levels of that. So

762
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: you've got your extra dark, your special Dirk. Then you've

763
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: got you know, your milk chocolate powders um any of that.

764
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: Any you have that stuff flour obviously you can whiten

765
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: up people with that brush that on their skid. It's

766
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: also good for adjusting costumes too. If they've been crawling

767
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: to the dirt, just put some cocoa powder on them.

768
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: They smell great, much cheaper, too much cheaper than special

769
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: effects tumeric. That's like bright yellow. You can come up

770
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: with something to use that for coffee grinds, all that

771
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: stuff like, it's all You can stay in a human

772
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: easily with that stuff. And I've I've definitely done the

773
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: silly thing where I've um dirt stained addressed by rubbing

774
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: it in the dirt. But that's but that's not advisable.

775
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: You don't want to do that because there's parasites and dirt,

776
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: there's bugs, there's allergens in there that you may not

777
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: be aware that you're allergic to or or certainly hopefully

778
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: not your talent. You know, you don't want to stick

779
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: something on your talent. And all of a sudden they

780
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: have this massive boily rash that you didn't make out

781
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: of food and they acquired themselves. You don't all of

782
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: a sudden they have ring worm. Oh yeah, that's not Yeah,

783
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: you don't want to be rubbing stuff in the dirt.

784
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: No that No. Can we do a little like improv

785
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: experiment with you, Like let's say that we were filming

786
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: a food stuff horror movie. Yeah, and um, and Annie

787
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: wanted to It's like it's sort of like Highlander like,

788
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: like Annie wanted to gain my power by eating my brain?

789
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: Why am I the villain here? I want to gain

790
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Annie's power by eating her brain. Wait a minute, I

791
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: don't want to be that person either. Alright, go ahead, Okay,

792
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: we're both eating Dylan's brain. Don't have a microphone, so

793
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: he can't complain. Um, but you can't leave the building. Okay,

794
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: so we I will say that because we have covered

795
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: me in blood here and how stuff works before, Like

796
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: there is probably some Carol syrup and like a like

797
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: a like a tub of ben Nigh blood powder. Okay,

798
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: perfect on premises, but other than that, Um, there's like

799
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: some restaurants downstairs, like a Pizza Us, a burger joint,

800
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: Ram and place pretty much any kind of food you

801
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: can imagine Indian. Yeah, okay, I mean you got everything

802
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: you need in this building. Okay, you eat some brains

803
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 1: what would you do. Well, first step is to make

804
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: sure that everything is clean and sterile if you're going

805
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: to be shopping your mouth off to her open skull,

806
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: anything that gets put on her head. I mean, I've

807
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: got gloves, the containers are going to be sterile, and

808
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: because I don't nothing, I don't want anybody else's mouth

809
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: to beyond that. Sure, sure, it's it's like it's like

810
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: a kitchen. It's like a professional kitchen exactly. Yeah, So

811
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: I mean I would uh probably I can't shave your head.

812
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: I would probably get something dough eat it to to

813
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: start with to stick everything onto your head. So let's

814
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: go to the pizza do place little ball pizza dough

815
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: glove that onto her head. Um, moker. Probably find some

816
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: cheesy poofs in your kitchen over here, totally grand other

817
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: bright orange. But you got those nice curls, which is

818
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: like how brain? Oh yeah, all those wrinkles. Yeah, that's

819
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: a that's a little special shade Morton trick. We had

820
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: done to do some brains with little cheesy poofs. Um

821
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: and you can change the color of that with your

822
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: fake blood and stuff. But you know, I mean, any

823
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: of those shops down there we can. We can get

824
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 1: something syrupy and turn it into dripping blood all over

825
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: your mouth. More and just just I mean the coffee

826
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: shop downstairs, get some chocolate syrup. I mean, these are

827
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: all basics, but I mean I usually I don't know

828
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: what I'm going to use when it comes to that

829
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: last minute stuff until I opened that fridge, look at

830
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: it and stare at that crafty table, or look at

831
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: my kit. You know. Um, if if say you've been

832
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: dead for a minute and laying in the grass and

833
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: your brains been eating open and there's ants crawling on you,

834
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Cocoa crispies, we can get little catchup bottles at the

835
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: little condiment station are the best, by the way, Sarasha,

836
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: who that's that's such a nice color to use the

837
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: get a little squirt bottle and and as you're you're

838
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: pulling the brains out of her mouth, you can have

839
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: someone off camera just squeezing the catchup bottle and blood

840
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: squirting all over the place. Really didn't do it. I

841
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: think we should do a short a short scene, and

842
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: then we can okay, we can maybe Okay, how does

843
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: your head get smashed open? Okay, okay, smash it through

844
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: a window through one of these sound booth windows. Okay,

845
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: another common food product. Another another common food product for

846
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Speaker 1: special effects is sugar glass. You ever see anybody smash

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Speaker 1: somebody in the head with a bottle or they go

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Speaker 1: through the glass. I mean there's there's a fake rubber

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00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 1: glass that takes like eighteen hours to set up. It's

850
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: really fun and I love using it, but um, this

851
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: is something it's super difficult, and I haven't found anybody

852
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: in Atlanta that can actually make the sugar glass recipe

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00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: work well because it's it's getting the right colors and

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00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: it goes into the oven. Um, I haven't looked it

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Speaker 1: up in a little while. But if it's if you've

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Speaker 1: baked it for too long, the glass can turn like

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Speaker 1: golden and burnt. But you fake glasses just sugar, and

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00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: so we can smash your head with the fake shirt

859
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: glass window and have the shard sticking out of your head. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm so on board. So on board. Um, well, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for being our first non house stuff

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00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: works in house guests on food stuff. It's very exciting.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys. This was great. Yeah yeah, And that's

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Speaker 1: the end of a super special jam packed special effects episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hope that you enjoyed it as much as we

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Speaker 1: did and that you weren't too squeaked out by all

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Speaker 1: of the bodily fluids conversation. Yeah, and thanks again so

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00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: much to be for being here. Yes, absolutely, it's awesome

869
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: to talk to her. I could have we could have

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Speaker 1: gone on and on, and she has inspired me and

871
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Speaker 1: hopefully some of you listeners. I want to make a

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Speaker 1: food stuff short film horror. Yes, we can. We got

873
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Speaker 1: to add in all of the things we mentioned. We

874
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: gotta find a way to incorporate like ash fall with

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Speaker 1: the coconut falling on lettuce. We need some sugar glass.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but our one hundred episode is coming up,

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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, I'm percolating on some ideas,

878
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: but I think there's something to this. I think so too.

879
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: We get to go to our boss. We need one

880
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars. We've got a special effects film. It's

881
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: gonna be great, but we really need the funding. Yeah,

882
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: it just makes sense business wise, I mean clearly. Yeah,

883
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: that's how all audio podcasts should celebrate exactly, really large

884
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: scale horror production. Listeners, Please, if you if you have

885
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: a creative streak, if you're looking to try on any

886
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: of these practical food effects, we would love to see them. Yes,

887
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: oh so much. Yeah, or if you do your own

888
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: folly work at home, like like send us audio clips

889
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 1: let us know. Um and uh, this brings us to listen.

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Speaker 1: He sounded like an old lady at the end, an

891
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: old lady that saw a ghost. Or no, an old

892
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 1: lady ghost. That's what it was. Okay, there you go, Yeah,

893
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Speaker 1: I got there. Cam wrote to us about banana ketchup.

894
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: It has an interesting history in that it was first

895
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: created during World War Two when there was a tomatoes

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00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: shortage in the country because of the war. Since the

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Speaker 1: Philippines was an American colony and therefore American foods were popular,

898
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: ketchup had become an important enough condiment locally that a

899
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: substitute for tomato ketchup had to be found, since bananas

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00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: were abundant. A man named Mgdalo V. Francisco created a

901
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:57,840
Speaker 1: recipe that used that made use of cooked, mashed bananas, vinegar, spices,

902
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: and sugar to create a ketchup like us. The resulting

903
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: mixture is dyed with food coloring to make it look

904
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Speaker 1: more like tomato ketchup. The basic recipe hasn't changed, and

905
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Speaker 1: Francisco's products still exists today under the brand name Jufron.

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Speaker 1: In the years since banana ketchup was first created and sold,

907
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: it remains popular over here in the Philippines, mostly because

908
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: it's sweeter and cheaper than tomato ketchup. It's used on

909
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: its own as a condiment for everything you normally eat

910
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: ketchup with, including spam. A properly a popular breakfast item

911
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: here is served with garlic, fried rice and eggs, and

912
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: fried chicken. But one of the most common and according

913
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: to non Filipino friends, very weird, uses of banana ketchup

914
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: is as a base for spaghetti sauce. Filipino style spaghetti

915
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: sauce is quite sweet, and many local recipes for spaghetti,

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Speaker 1: especially ones that are meant to be served at children's

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Speaker 1: birthday parties, often involved tipping a substantial amount of banana

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Speaker 1: ketchup into the sauce to enhance flavor and color, or

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00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: sometimes using it as the base in place of tomato sauce.

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00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: Sliced up hot dogs are then added to the saucer.

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00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: Protein just sounds delicious. I personally prefer a tangersel, but

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Speaker 1: lots of Filipinos have very fond memories of sweet birthday spaghetti,

923
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Speaker 1: and so we'll happily indulge in it when they can.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, there's an interesting story told in the Philippines

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Speaker 1: about banana trees. Legend has it that blooming banana trees

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Speaker 1: are particularly special because if you happen to be at

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Speaker 1: the right tree at midnight, a magical gemstone or pearl

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Speaker 1: will drop from the banana flower. In order to catch it,

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Speaker 1: you have to lie underneath the flower and catch the

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Speaker 1: gym in your mouth as it falls. At this point,

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Speaker 1: you may be attacked by various monsters and supernatural creatures

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Speaker 1: who also want the stone, but because they can't touch

933
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Speaker 1: it as it falls from the flower, they have to

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Speaker 1: wait until human catches it before they can try and

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Speaker 1: steal it for themselves by throttling the human until they

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Speaker 1: spit it out. However, if you are able to hang

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00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: onto the stone for a whole minute, then you become

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Speaker 1: the stones owner for good and it cannot be taken

939
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: away from you. Why I go through all that trouble

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00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: for a stone? Well, supposedly, the stones magic is so

941
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: powerful that it protects the owner from any and all dangers,

942
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: whether from the living, the dead, or the supernatural, and

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Speaker 1: some stories say that it will also give you the

944
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Speaker 1: power of invisibility. However, some other stories say that these

945
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: benefits might not even be worth it at the end,

946
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Speaker 1: because taking and using the stone means you have used magic,

947
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 1: and using magic defies the laws of God and automatically

948
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: sells your soul to Satan. Last part is obviously something

949
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: tacked on after the Spanish colonized the Philippines, but the

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00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: bits before it might be rooted to older pre colonial

951
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 1: legends and miss Then she went on to advise us

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00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: not to try this because she didn't want to be

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00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: responsible for um maiming by supernatural creatures. Yeah, no, understandable.

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00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: That's yeah. I mean that sounds it sounds like a

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00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: nice gig, but I'm not Yeah, I mean, I'm interested

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00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: it does. It sounds like all of the deathly Hollows

957
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: from Harry Potter mixed into one. Right, you got your invisibility,

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Speaker 1: you're your elder one for like superpowers. I don't know

959
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: about the Resurrection Stone. Yea almost, they're almost. They're working

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00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: towards it, very very cool and I'm I'm determined, and

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Speaker 1: I think you are as well to try banana catch

962
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: up something so much. Yeah, um, Jenny wrote during the

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Speaker 1: Margarita episode, I was delighted to hear you mentioned my

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00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: favorite cocktail, the Jin Daisy. When I was in grad school,

965
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 1: I was very stressed out. My then boyfriend now husband

966
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: would try to help by making me a cocktail when

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Speaker 1: I got home. He'd open up his bartender guide book

968
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Speaker 1: and see what he could make with what was on hand.

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00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: One day that turned out to be agin Daisy, and

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00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: I promptly fell in love with both him and this

971
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: more adult version of pink lemonade. Apparently they were once

972
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: a more popular drink, but now bartenders rarely know how

973
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: to make one. So for a while I had a

974
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Speaker 1: card in my wallet with the recipe so I could

975
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Speaker 1: hand it to the server when I tried to order one,

976
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Speaker 1: and they looked confused. Meanwhile, if you do want to

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Speaker 1: try Moco Loco, but you're conflicted about spam and it's

978
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: ethical quandaries, you could try this version and she links

979
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Speaker 1: to it um it uses ground pork instead of spam. Personally,

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00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: I like to add a bit of minced ginger and

981
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: some soy sauce to the brown meat and top it

982
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: with cilantro and green onions. Trust me, and don't try

983
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: using reduced fat pork or won't crisp up as well. Yes,

984
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: a lot of people wrote in about substituting spam with

985
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: ground beef if you want to try locomoco. Yeah, we

986
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: gotta have a food stuff. We gotta do a lot

987
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: of things, but we need a food stuff like pot

988
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: luck where we make a bunch of figs, try a

989
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: bunch of things from episodes, and this has to be one.

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00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm determined to try this um. And I also love

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00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: that she carried around a cocktail card that is so great,

992
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: so practical, that is, that's lovely and that's you know,

993
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: come on. I mean this is also why a default

994
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: to like to like whiskey on the rocks when I'm

995
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: at bars, because I'm like, what can they not mess up?

996
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: We need to get a bunch of guards putted. Yeah,

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00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: and have like a random let's see what saw the

998
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: random card? What random cocktail will be having today? Sounds

999
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: like a dangerous card games, but I like it. I

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00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, So thanks to both of them for

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00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: writing us, and you two can write us, and please

1002
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: if you do any food stuff special effects videos our sounds.

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00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,960
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00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. We're also on social media Facebook

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00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: and Twitter, we are food stuff hs W. On Instagram,

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00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: which we are also on, we are at food stuff. UH.

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Speaker 1: We hope to hear from you. Thank you so much

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00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: again to v Kelly and to our super producer Dylan Fagan,

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00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: who gives the best advice mid episode. Thanks to you

1010
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: for listening and we hope that lots more good things

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Speaker 1: are coming your way.