WEBVTT - #829 Packers Unscripted: The schedule speaks

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always

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<v Speaker 1>by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you

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<v Speaker 1>here from our studios at lambeau Field West, fresh off

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<v Speaker 1>of the schedule release for the twenty twenty five season.

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<v Speaker 1>The Packers' schedule is out there, The entire NFL schedule

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<v Speaker 1>is out there, and we're going to spend the bulk

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<v Speaker 1>of this episode talking about it. And I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>to start with your thoughts. When you first glanced at

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule, what was the first thing you noticed.

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<v Speaker 2>My eyes went to one thing, and it was what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening Week one? And that's the green Bay Packers are

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<v Speaker 2>back at lambeau Field for the first time since twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>the first time as Matt Lafleur in the position of

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<v Speaker 2>Packers head coach. The Green Bay Packers will play a

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<v Speaker 2>home opener at lambeau Field in Week one, and I

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<v Speaker 2>just felt like this was important because I know you're

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<v Speaker 2>the big baseball buff I'm not, but I will say

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<v Speaker 2>I always felt like when opening Day happens in Major

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<v Speaker 2>League Baseball, if you're playing the home at home during

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<v Speaker 2>opening Day, that's a big deal. There's been so many

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<v Speaker 2>times I can't tell you where the Brewers will start

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<v Speaker 2>on a road trip and then eventually they have their

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<v Speaker 2>home opener, and my attention has already gone off to

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<v Speaker 2>some other places. The NFL the season, every weekend, every

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday is huge, and I'm not saying it's not. And

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<v Speaker 2>we've had some awesome Sundays the last few years. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan Love I'll never forget his first home opener as

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<v Speaker 2>the starting quarterback against the New Orleans Saints two years ago, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I just think there's something special about actually having

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<v Speaker 2>that first game right out of like the eight. What

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<v Speaker 2>I did not anticipate was oh, hey, four days later,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna do this again. Who wants to play again?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they'll welcome in a very talented, very deep, very

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<v Speaker 2>dangerous Washington Commanders team. But the fact that Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>did I only get that opener. They're going to take

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<v Speaker 2>on the Detroit Lions the first time I think in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four years they're hosting the Lions and an opener.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the first time since five that they're

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<v Speaker 2>playing them at all. That that is a fitting way,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like to at least start off what is

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat of an uneven but always going to be imperfect schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>It is kind of crazy that it took this long

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<v Speaker 1>into Matt Lafleur's tenure for the Packers to get a

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<v Speaker 1>week one home games.

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<v Speaker 2>Because longest stretching franchise history.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the Packers had opened their one hundred season in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen with a home game against the Bears, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they did not open another season at home until

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<v Speaker 1>season one oh seven, which is what this one.

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<v Speaker 2>And they requested that one, Yeah, in eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been actually just straight up booked for one since seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you and you hinted at it as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's an interesting one to two right off the

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<v Speaker 1>bat when you're playing actually two teams that played each

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<v Speaker 1>other in the NFC Divisional Playoffs last year, the Lions

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<v Speaker 1>and the Commanders. It'll be back to back, both games

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<v Speaker 1>at Lambeau five days in a span of five days.

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<v Speaker 1>The two games are just four days apart, a late

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday afternoon and then a Thursday night game. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting to me that it fell that way in

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<v Speaker 1>a year in which the NFC, which of course includes

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers, has the eight home games and the nine

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<v Speaker 1>road games, that when you actually have one more road

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<v Speaker 1>game on the schedule that you would start out with

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<v Speaker 1>back to back home games, Because now that leaves you

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<v Speaker 1>with nine road games out of your last fifteen, it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a bit unbalanced in that regard. But starting out

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<v Speaker 1>against Detroit and Washington, two playoff teams from a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>two teams with Super Bowl aspirations, it's a tremendous opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>getting both of those teams at home right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gate. It's a tremendous opportunity for the Packers to

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<v Speaker 1>make a statement of sorts as to where twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>might be headed for green Bay. The other intriguing thing

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<v Speaker 1>I think, just with opening against the Lions in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>is they have a new offensive coordinator, a new defensive coordinator.

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<v Speaker 1>Both of their coordinators from last year got head coaching

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<v Speaker 1>jobs elsewhere. There's obviously plenty of confidence in Detroit on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the ball that they can keep this

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<v Speaker 1>thing rolling with Dan Campbell and the players they have

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<v Speaker 1>and everything they've got going. But sometimes you just never know,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's gonna be a lot of unknown with regard

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<v Speaker 1>to there always is with a week one game, but

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<v Speaker 1>then a Week one game against a team that has

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<v Speaker 1>brand new coordinators on both sides of the ball. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure that I can recall anything like that happening

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<v Speaker 1>in recent years around.

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<v Speaker 2>Not where you lose both. And obviously some of that

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<v Speaker 2>is somewhat telegraphed because Ben Johnson probably could have left

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<v Speaker 2>for a job last year. Oh sure not to yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But so my point being with that comment is the

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<v Speaker 2>Lions obviously have been bracing for his leaving here at

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<v Speaker 2>some point and obviously had their plans in place for

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<v Speaker 2>how are going to go about handling that. I will say, though,

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<v Speaker 2>especially as it relates to the NFC North, a really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting question Insider Inboxes past week asking about the probability

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<v Speaker 2>of the Chicago Bears not taking a step forward with

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Johnson taking over as the head coach, but also

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<v Speaker 2>the Detroit Lions taking a step back without him as

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<v Speaker 2>their offensive coordinator. That is an interesting way to look

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<v Speaker 2>at it, because what is the probability of those two

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<v Speaker 2>things both happening. Is Chicago going to make a big jump,

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<v Speaker 2>but is Detroit going to take a step back. Is

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit going to keep the training on the tracks, But

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<v Speaker 2>is Chicago going to become this giant that everybody's been

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<v Speaker 2>thinking they were going to be for the last I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know decade that they've been billed as a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times during the off season. We'll have to wait

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<v Speaker 2>and see. But past happenings don't always indicate future success.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just very interested to see if Detroit can

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<v Speaker 2>legitimately stay on top of the mountain in if Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>can actually claw itself back into this thing. In either case,

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<v Speaker 2>with the Packers standpoint two very intriguing matchups against the Lions,

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<v Speaker 2>and that they open the season and they also travel

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<v Speaker 2>there for Thanksgiving again second time in three years. And

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<v Speaker 2>then in Chicago's case, you actually won't see Ben Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>You won't be a part of that rivalry yet until

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<v Speaker 2>what week fourteen. Yeah, they start that stretch of two

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<v Speaker 2>games in three weeks, two very interesting ways to go

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<v Speaker 2>out tackling one of the two of the Packers' biggest rivals.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you mentioned the Thanksgiving game in Detroit, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the other thing that really caught my eye right away,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's what I wrote about on the website. In

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<v Speaker 1>my column, you wrote the ten things about the schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of focused on this one particular element,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that the Packers have two Thursday games, so

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<v Speaker 1>you have two short weeks, and so that gives you

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<v Speaker 1>two different segments of your schedule. War you're playing two

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<v Speaker 1>games in a span of five days, but the two

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<v Speaker 1>games in five days are Lions Commanders and then Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>Lions the week of Thanksgiving. The Packers have nine games

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<v Speaker 1>on their schedule in twenty twenty five against teams that

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<v Speaker 1>made the playoffs a year ago. Four of those nine

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<v Speaker 1>are in these like Sunday Thursday, these two games within

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<v Speaker 1>five days things. We've been a part of these before

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<v Speaker 1>West because every team has to deal with it when

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<v Speaker 1>you play a Sunday followed by a Thursday. And yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>there's plenty of times where you win when you lose one,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how this league goes. But man, you can

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<v Speaker 1>really set yourself up with a lot of momentum if

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<v Speaker 1>you can win both of those games, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>really find yourself, you know, struggling and needing a reset

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<v Speaker 1>if you drop two games in a span of five days.

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<v Speaker 1>These are inflection points in any given NFL schedule when

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<v Speaker 1>you have to when you have to cram two games

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<v Speaker 1>into such a short timeframe. There and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>all of the matchups, the four matchups in these two

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<v Speaker 1>five day spans that the Packers are dealing with, one

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<v Speaker 1>in September, one in November leading into things giving the

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<v Speaker 1>matchups are huge, they're going to have made the major

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<v Speaker 1>implications because of the teams that the Packers are facing

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<v Speaker 1>in those in those matchups.

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<v Speaker 2>An excellent point by you, And I mean, is there

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<v Speaker 2>any better example of what you just talked about than

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty three Packers. I mean, their season was

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<v Speaker 2>at a crossroads when they hosted the Los Angeles Chargers.

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<v Speaker 2>They beat the Chargers, and then they surprise the world

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<v Speaker 2>and they beat a streaking Detroit Lions, completely turned the

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<v Speaker 2>season around, and the week after that beat the Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>City Chiefs, who end up going on and winning the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's that's the difference that the team

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<v Speaker 2>that went from four and six to suddenly being right

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<v Speaker 2>there at six and six by a matter of just

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of business. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's a as as I said, these are these

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<v Speaker 1>are crucial stretches and the fact that the Packers have

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<v Speaker 1>two of them on the schedule and the matchups that

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<v Speaker 1>they're facing in those are are going to have such

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<v Speaker 1>big implications in the NFC picture if things go somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>as we expect with teams like the Lions and the

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<v Speaker 1>Commanders and the Packers and the Vikings staying as contenders.

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<v Speaker 2>So before we shot this, and we also did our

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<v Speaker 2>little Q and a video as well beforehand, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a one guy. There's one human being that I will

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<v Speaker 2>always say yes to an interview. It's Mike Keller, good

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<v Speaker 2>friend of mine, do the pregame radio show with them,

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<v Speaker 2>works for iHeartRadio to Milwaukee. And I told him like,

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<v Speaker 2>this today is the only day I was like. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I wasn't, but it was because of Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'll do it for you. We have enough

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff going on, I'll do it for you. So

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<v Speaker 2>the point I'm illustrating with that is we got into

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting discussion. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on this, because the question came up about all of

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<v Speaker 2>us thinking that we were going to be playing the

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<v Speaker 2>Gremit Packers will be playing on Christmas here based on

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that they were going to take on Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>Bears on that Saturday in week sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, December twentieth.

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<v Speaker 2>So my question for you is, and then I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what my response was this, would you rather be

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<v Speaker 2>home on Christmas for a game or be in Detroit

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<v Speaker 2>for Thanksgiving? Or be on the road doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be Detroit, but just be on the road for Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 2>or home on Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>US. Given my druthers, I would probably say home on Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say this play playing on Thanksgiving. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mind. I don't mind the Detroit game because A

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<v Speaker 1>it's a quick flight and B it's the earliest game

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<v Speaker 1>on things true. So you know, I mean I have

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<v Speaker 1>I've covered. I'd have to count it up. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've covered four or five of the Packers Thanksgiving games

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit in my tenure. And now this year they

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<v Speaker 1>moved the kickoff back to noon Central. It used to

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<v Speaker 1>be eleven thirty and uh and with that eleven thirty kickoff,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'd be I'd be walking back in the door

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<v Speaker 1>at home at like six thirty for a late Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 1>dinner with my family. You know, can't quite get back

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<v Speaker 1>that early now because they've they've moved the kickoff back

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<v Speaker 1>to twelve. But but I I've never minded that the

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving game in Detroit because because of how close it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and because it's the early one last year hosting Thanksgiving,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with the night game, you know, eating all

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<v Speaker 1>the turkey during the day and then having to work

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<v Speaker 1>really really late hours with.

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<v Speaker 2>All of our Yeah, we were super productive.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that was That was tough. That was tough,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the uh, that was the if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, that was the start of what was at

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<v Speaker 1>four night games in a row or whatever last year.

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<v Speaker 1>So at least there's nothing like that that's on the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty fifth schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>If I never have to eat turkey in the ford

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<v Speaker 2>Field press box again in my life, though, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily well upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that's the thing is when I know that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming home to have Thanksgiving dinner, like I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't even eat the turkey and the press.

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<v Speaker 2>Well good because it's usually gone by the time you

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<v Speaker 2>end up getting and.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even I don't even worry about it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just maybe grab a couple of side dishes that

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<v Speaker 1>I know aren't going to be back at home.

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<v Speaker 2>But I I just it was something the question I

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<v Speaker 2>come up with Mike and we're doing the show on

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<v Speaker 2>because it was like I kind of, you know, dodged

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a fiasco there and not having Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, ah, I think I would have taken Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>over being in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, home on Christmas is always a good thing. The

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<v Speaker 1>other thing I want to mention though, with regard to

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<v Speaker 1>that Thanksgiving game, So you have the Vikings on the

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday before Thanksgiving at Lambeau, then you go to Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>for Thanksgiving. That begins the final seven weeks of the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, in which five of the Packers NFC North

0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:26.079
<v Speaker 1>games are in those final seven including, as you mentioned earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>playing the Bears twice in a span of three weeks

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<v Speaker 1>there in December. So you have Vikings Lions on Thanksgiving week,

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<v Speaker 1>you got the two games with the Bears in a

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<v Speaker 1>span of three weeks, and then you finish in week

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen at Minnesota. So five of your six division games

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<v Speaker 1>are essentially from Thanksgiving week to the end of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>really really backloaded in terms of those NFC North matchups,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where they're intriguing piece to this schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>It definitely is. And again we were trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>some information on this as far as if there's ever

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<v Speaker 2>been anything where it's been that backlogged. The only other

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<v Speaker 2>time they played five games in the last seven weeks

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<v Speaker 2>was since O two the ray alignment was twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>But to have this many in that tide of a

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<v Speaker 2>window is remarkable. And to go two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>months without playing your division, it seems like I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>give you the exact year on this. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>they've actually done this a couple times now, at least

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<v Speaker 2>during my time covering the team, where they go these

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<v Speaker 2>elongated stretches without playing the NFC North and then everything

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feels funneled there at the end. Again, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait and see. Packers took care of business

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<v Speaker 2>last year against the AFC South. I think they might

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<v Speaker 2>have cleared out the AFC South by the time they

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<v Speaker 2>played Minnesota. Was it there was like one team I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they had faced yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I believe that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>By the time they had already wrapped up their four

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<v Speaker 2>games against the celt So it's just the way schedules go,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the way you got to build a schedule somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Not everybody's always going to be happy for me personally,

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<v Speaker 2>but neat to see another mid season by. I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 2>the mid season by as someone that you know is

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<v Speaker 2>trying to formulate a life out of in addition to

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<v Speaker 2>having a career. But be that as it may, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's gonna be a vallenge and something that Packers

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<v Speaker 2>have to tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that the early bye is not ideal. We've we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that plenty of times in previous years. The

0:14:07.440 --> 0:14:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Packers have certainly had their fair share of early bye weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting because back in twenty twenty two when

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers went to London in Week five, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it was the league gives you the option after an

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<v Speaker 1>international trip that you can take your bye the next week,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Packers chose not to because they felt that

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<v Speaker 1>week six was too early. They wanted to have the

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<v Speaker 1>bye later in the season. So the Packers have turned

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<v Speaker 1>down that early bye, Yet there's all these other years

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<v Speaker 1>where the league just hands it to them anyway and

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<v Speaker 1>says year week five, week six, here's your buye. This

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<v Speaker 1>is when you get your week off.

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<v Speaker 2>And the year they got that London game. They turned

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<v Speaker 2>down the Week six by next Oh, here you go

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<v Speaker 2>Week thirteen, enjoy yourself, or in December, enjoy your break. Yeah,

0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:49.320
<v Speaker 2>they put it.

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<v Speaker 1>They put it at the extreme extreme. On the other end,

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<v Speaker 1>about some general themes and whatnot with regard to the schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's just highlight some individual games that catch your eye,

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<v Speaker 1>that get the old metaphorical circle on the calendar, what

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<v Speaker 1>jumps out at you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really interested to see the Cincinnati Bengals come in

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<v Speaker 2>here after the bye. We haven't in all the content

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<v Speaker 2>you and I have done so far, we really haven't

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<v Speaker 2>talked much about that yet. But the Joe Burrow show

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<v Speaker 2>there with Daniels and obviously you know T Higgins and

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<v Speaker 2>everything he's done in this league. This is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>our Jamar Chase excuse me, yeah, Chase. This is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be a huge, huge challenge trying to slow them down.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, people forget they just missed out of making

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, but there might not have been a hotter

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<v Speaker 2>team down the stretch last season than the Bengals once

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<v Speaker 2>they started getting everything together. Yea, it looked like I

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<v Speaker 2>mean in a lot of ways, Mike, it's really hard

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<v Speaker 2>for a guy to be in like legitimate MVP contention

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<v Speaker 2>when you're not on a playoff team. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow, a case could be made that he was

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<v Speaker 2>the most important player to any team last year based

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<v Speaker 2>on what that could have potentially been like for Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>had he not been around. But they were able to

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<v Speaker 2>get some moment at the end of the season. Packers

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<v Speaker 2>have a tough stretch, and we've talked a lot about

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<v Speaker 2>that early stretch, but coming out of the by and

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<v Speaker 2>then immediately getting that greatest show on what Kentucky Bluegrass

0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.680
<v Speaker 2>down there in Cincinnati, that is not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>an easy task at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'll say I'm looking forward to seeing Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow and Jamar Chase like in person for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time because the only other time in the era of

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<v Speaker 1>those two stars for Cincinnati that the Packers have played

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<v Speaker 1>them was during one of the two I guess it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been twenty twenty one, one of the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>seasons when we actually weren't traveling, so that ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being the crazy overtime game in Cincinnati with the missed

0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.240
<v Speaker 1>field goals and everything else, and then the Packers ultimately prevailed.

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<v Speaker 1>But you and I have never seen Joe Burrow Jamar

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<v Speaker 1>Chase in that offense like live, you know, like.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't eve get a chance to see him in

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<v Speaker 2>the joint practices. Yeah, no, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>We did.

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<v Speaker 2>It's them with that too, because of his calf injury

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. Yeah. Interesting, interesting tidbit I'll throw at you though,

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously the Packers and the Bengals don't play each

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<v Speaker 1>other all that often. The last two times Green Bay

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<v Speaker 1>and Cincinnati have played in the regular season, the game

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<v Speaker 1>has gone to overtime.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, yeah, twenty seven. I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty one, and now here we are again

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty five. But sticking with the AFC North,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to explain myself here, but certainly the

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<v Speaker 1>game in Pittsburgh under the lights, primetime game along the

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<v Speaker 1>Allegheny there in Pittsburgh, it's a great setting for football.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a wonderful stadium, that's a really neat place. And

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<v Speaker 1>if what we think is going to happen at the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback position for that matchup, of course that that game

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<v Speaker 1>against Pittsburgh has ori. And then speaking of parking Rudolph right, yeah, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of players that we haven't gotten to see live, Lamar.

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<v Speaker 2>Jackson, Yeah, finally.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, of course it's going to be at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. Who knows where things could be injury wise.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything can happen in this league. But in week seventeen,

0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the Packers will be hosting the Baltimore Ravens either on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday or Sunday. It's one of those games that could

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<v Speaker 1>that could end up being chosen for either day. But

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<v Speaker 1>the only time in the Lamar Jackson era that the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and the Ravens have met was in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lamar Jackson was hurt and Tyler Huntley was the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback for the Ravens in that game. Another one that

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<v Speaker 1>we were not there for in Baltimore, and another one

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of crazy coming right down to the

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<v Speaker 1>end and the Packers had to stop a two point

0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.119
<v Speaker 1>conversion in order to win the game as the as

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<v Speaker 1>Huntley was leading this like two touchdown comeback in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. But I'll be I'll be really intrigued to

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<v Speaker 1>potentially see Lamar Jackson, you know, live and playing for real,

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<v Speaker 1>not just in a preseason game, but uh but live

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<v Speaker 1>and here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just it was impressive just watch him

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<v Speaker 2>in the you know, the joint Yeah, the joint practice,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And just I mean the guy moves different,

0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.399
<v Speaker 2>he throws a ball different, and just he is he

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<v Speaker 2>is a specimen in every every way you could put

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<v Speaker 2>it in, one of the more unique skill sets of

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<v Speaker 2>this generation of quarterbacks. Yeah, So it'll be really neat.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's also curious that it's going to have that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of December flavor to it as well, seeing how

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<v Speaker 2>those elements could potentially affect the game. The last week

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Five, Yeah, and the Ravens have certainly played their share

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<v Speaker 1>in the cold in the AFC North, and not only

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore, but Pittsburgh and Cleveland and Cincinnati and all

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<v Speaker 1>that they've they've played their share of cold weather games.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I almost think like Lamar Jackson would be

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<v Speaker 1>even more dangerous in the cold.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already hard enough to tackle, and then you add

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<v Speaker 1>you add the element into it, and it could it

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<v Speaker 1>could be even more difficult there. Yeah, your thoughts also

0:20:07.000 --> 0:20:10.560
<v Speaker 1>on the defending Super Bowl champs and the team that

0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 1>knocked the Packers out of the playoffs last year coming

0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.399
<v Speaker 1>to Lambeufield. The Eagles will be in Green Bay for

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<v Speaker 1>a Monday night contest and that will be in November,

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<v Speaker 1>November tenth.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're we're getting close here to the end of

0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 2>May here, So we'll see what happens as far as

0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.480
<v Speaker 2>these tush push guidelines, and you know, the NFL tabled

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<v Speaker 2>the discussions. It'd be interesting to see if the Philadelphi

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Eagles get a different reception to what they've been giving

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<v Speaker 2>out as it relates to that, if that happens to

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<v Speaker 2>make its way into the season in the schedule and

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<v Speaker 2>still being allowed in that particular form, this season, I'd

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.720
<v Speaker 2>be curious, you know, Packer fans would respond to seeing it.

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<v Speaker 2>That being said, it's a very good opponent, very tough opponent,

0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.280
<v Speaker 2>and one of the more well rounded teams in the

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.760
<v Speaker 2>National Football League in terms of their construct I really

0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:59.920
<v Speaker 2>like how Howie Roseman has built this team. Huge offensive lines,

0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.400
<v Speaker 2>athletic offensive lines, but they have been as good as

0:21:03.440 --> 0:21:05.680
<v Speaker 2>anybody in the National Football League. When you're talking about

0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 2>why does this team become a super Bowl champion, Well,

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.880
<v Speaker 2>it's because they've drafted well and they've signed players very well.

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Howie Roseman has not missed a lot of his swings lately.

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<v Speaker 2>It just seems like things have kind of fallen their

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<v Speaker 2>way in a lot of regards, and this will be

0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 2>a huge test for the Packers. I mean, again, there's

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:23.360
<v Speaker 2>a reason why, Mike, when we were going into this week,

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<v Speaker 2>you were talking about I think it's what the fifth

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<v Speaker 2>or sixth most difficult schedule based on last year. Yeah,

0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:32.280
<v Speaker 2>that Green Bay has and that doesn't necessarily tell you

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.480
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be that way again. Things can change quickly.

0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:36.120
<v Speaker 2>It happened a few years ago for the Packers where

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was the twenty twenty two season. It

0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 2>looked like it was going to be really yah.

0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Supposedly it was an easy schedule based on the records

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>from the prior year, and then everything kind of flipped

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the expectations for certain teams.

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was. Was it the East? One

0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:52.720
<v Speaker 2>of the teams has just played out of their mind

0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:55.399
<v Speaker 2>relative to what everybody thought. Well, the Giants were one

0:21:55.440 --> 0:21:55.680
<v Speaker 2>of them.

0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:58.400
<v Speaker 1>They beat the Packers in London and ended up going

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:02.080
<v Speaker 1>on to win road playoff game in Minnesota. When, yes,

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>when that season was all said and done. The other

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you were talking about the Eagles, We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Lions earlier and losing both coordinators. The

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles are an interesting story because a few years back,

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<v Speaker 1>they go to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>They lose a.

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<v Speaker 1>Close one in the Super Bowl to the Kansas City Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at the end of the game, they lose both

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<v Speaker 1>of their coordinators to head coaching jobs. They come back

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<v Speaker 1>the next year and they start ten to one. They're

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<v Speaker 1>looking like they're headed for the number one seed in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC playoffs. Everything completely unravels over the last two

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<v Speaker 1>months of the regular season. They end up getting into

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs as a wild card. They go one and

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<v Speaker 1>done and they're out, and then they come back the

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<v Speaker 1>next year and they win, and they win the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just you just never know in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether any of that will apply to the Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>Lions and what they're going to be going through this year,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>But we've done so many shows. I can't remember if

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<v Speaker 2>you brought this up on this one or if it

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<v Speaker 2>was on the Live Q and A. We did too,

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<v Speaker 2>But your point about the Denver Broncos too, and the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the Packers could potentially play a cold weather

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<v Speaker 2>at no game at elevation is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at Denver, at Denver in the middle of December.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very rare, for rare in this franchise's history, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the last you know, forty years of

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<v Speaker 1>this franchise's history, to play a road game in the snow. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know if it's going to be a snow

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<v Speaker 1>game in the mountains that day, that day out in Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would really be It would really be interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see the Packers, you know, wearing the road uniforms

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<v Speaker 1>and yet having all the snow falling around, because we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen it so often at Lambeau, but it doesn't happen

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<v Speaker 1>away from home very often.

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<v Speaker 2>And I forgot the point I was trying to make

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<v Speaker 2>with the Baltimore Ravens. By the way, I found the

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<v Speaker 2>stat and I think it was our communications department. I

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<v Speaker 2>create my superlatives, they do theirs. Never this is the

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<v Speaker 2>point I was trying to bring it back full circle.

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<v Speaker 2>Lates the Packers have ever played the Ravens too in

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<v Speaker 2>the season week seventeen, Week seventeen, late in the season.

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<v Speaker 2>So if the Ravens are who everybody thinks they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've been the last few years, and the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>can continue to capitalize on their youth and their optimism

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously their upside, that could be a really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>intraconference game that late in the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, well with that, we will call it a

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<v Speaker 1>rap on this edition of Packers Unscript. It'd be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to follow all of our coverage of the team on

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot com and if you want anything on the schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got stories. There's a great schedule release video. Hats

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<v Speaker 1>off to our social media team and all the folks

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<v Speaker 1>that were involved in that had a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. We don't take ourselves too seriously as you

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<v Speaker 1>can probably tell, but stories, videos, everything with regard to

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule, graphics, cool stuff you can print out, put

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<v Speaker 1>it on your refrigerator and gear up for when September

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<v Speaker 1>rolls around. But with that for Wes, I am Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for tuning in everybody, and we will see

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<v Speaker 1>you next time.