1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Weston Hodkowitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: here from our studios at lambeau Field West, fresh off 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: of the schedule release for the twenty twenty five season. 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: The Packers' schedule is out there, The entire NFL schedule 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: is out there, and we're going to spend the bulk 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: of this episode talking about it. And I'm just going 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: to start with your thoughts. When you first glanced at 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: the schedule, what was the first thing you noticed. 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 2: My eyes went to one thing, and it was what's 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: happening Week one? And that's the green Bay Packers are 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: back at lambeau Field for the first time since twenty eighteen, 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: the first time as Matt Lafleur in the position of 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: Packers head coach. The Green Bay Packers will play a 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: home opener at lambeau Field in Week one, and I 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: just felt like this was important because I know you're 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: the big baseball buff I'm not, but I will say 19 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: I always felt like when opening Day happens in Major 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: League Baseball, if you're playing the home at home during 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: opening Day, that's a big deal. There's been so many 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: times I can't tell you where the Brewers will start 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: on a road trip and then eventually they have their 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: home opener, and my attention has already gone off to 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: some other places. The NFL the season, every weekend, every 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: Sunday is huge, and I'm not saying it's not. And 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: we've had some awesome Sundays the last few years. Obviously, 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: Jordan Love I'll never forget his first home opener as 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: the starting quarterback against the New Orleans Saints two years ago, right, 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: But I just think there's something special about actually having 31 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: that first game right out of like the eight. What 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: I did not anticipate was oh, hey, four days later, 33 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna do this again. Who wants to play again? 34 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: Because they'll welcome in a very talented, very deep, very 35 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: dangerous Washington Commanders team. But the fact that Green Bay 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: did I only get that opener. They're going to take 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: on the Detroit Lions the first time I think in 38 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: twenty four years they're hosting the Lions and an opener. 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: I think it's the first time since five that they're 40 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: playing them at all. That that is a fitting way, 41 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: I feel like to at least start off what is 42 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: somewhat of an uneven but always going to be imperfect schedule. 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: It is kind of crazy that it took this long 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: into Matt Lafleur's tenure for the Packers to get a 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: week one home games. 46 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: Because longest stretching franchise history. 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Packers had opened their one hundred season in 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen with a home game against the Bears, and 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: then they did not open another season at home until 50 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: season one oh seven, which is what this one. 51 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: And they requested that one, Yeah, in eighteen. 52 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: It's been actually just straight up booked for one since seventeen. 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you and you hinted at it as well. 55 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: It's it's an interesting one to two right off the 56 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 1: bat when you're playing actually two teams that played each 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: other in the NFC Divisional Playoffs last year, the Lions 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: and the Commanders. It'll be back to back, both games 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: at Lambeau five days in a span of five days. 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: The two games are just four days apart, a late 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon and then a Thursday night game. And it's 62 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: very interesting to me that it fell that way in 63 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: a year in which the NFC, which of course includes 64 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: the Packers, has the eight home games and the nine 65 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: road games, that when you actually have one more road 66 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: game on the schedule that you would start out with 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: back to back home games, Because now that leaves you 68 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: with nine road games out of your last fifteen, it 69 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: becomes a bit unbalanced in that regard. But starting out 70 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: against Detroit and Washington, two playoff teams from a year ago, 71 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: two teams with Super Bowl aspirations, it's a tremendous opportunity 72 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: getting both of those teams at home right out of 73 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: the gate. It's a tremendous opportunity for the Packers to 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: make a statement of sorts as to where twenty five 75 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: might be headed for green Bay. The other intriguing thing 76 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: I think, just with opening against the Lions in particular, 77 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: is they have a new offensive coordinator, a new defensive coordinator. 78 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: Both of their coordinators from last year got head coaching 79 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: jobs elsewhere. There's obviously plenty of confidence in Detroit on 80 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball that they can keep this 81 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: thing rolling with Dan Campbell and the players they have 82 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: and everything they've got going. But sometimes you just never know, 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a lot of unknown with regard 84 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: to there always is with a week one game, but 85 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: then a Week one game against a team that has 86 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: brand new coordinators on both sides of the ball. I'm 87 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: not sure that I can recall anything like that happening 88 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: in recent years around. 89 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: Not where you lose both. And obviously some of that 90 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: is somewhat telegraphed because Ben Johnson probably could have left 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: for a job last year. Oh sure not to yeah, 92 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: But so my point being with that comment is the 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: Lions obviously have been bracing for his leaving here at 94 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: some point and obviously had their plans in place for 95 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: how are going to go about handling that. I will say, though, 96 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: especially as it relates to the NFC North, a really 97 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: interesting question Insider Inboxes past week asking about the probability 98 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: of the Chicago Bears not taking a step forward with 99 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson taking over as the head coach, but also 100 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions taking a step back without him as 101 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: their offensive coordinator. That is an interesting way to look 102 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: at it, because what is the probability of those two 103 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: things both happening. Is Chicago going to make a big jump, 104 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: but is Detroit going to take a step back. Is 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: Detroit going to keep the training on the tracks, But 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: is Chicago going to become this giant that everybody's been 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: thinking they were going to be for the last I 108 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: don't know decade that they've been billed as a lot 109 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: of times during the off season. We'll have to wait 110 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: and see. But past happenings don't always indicate future success. 111 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: So I'm just very interested to see if Detroit can 112 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: legitimately stay on top of the mountain in if Chicago 113 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: can actually claw itself back into this thing. In either case, 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: with the Packers standpoint two very intriguing matchups against the Lions, 115 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: and that they open the season and they also travel 116 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: there for Thanksgiving again second time in three years. And 117 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: then in Chicago's case, you actually won't see Ben Johnson. 118 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: You won't be a part of that rivalry yet until 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: what week fourteen. Yeah, they start that stretch of two 120 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: games in three weeks, two very interesting ways to go 121 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: out tackling one of the two of the Packers' biggest rivals. 122 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned the Thanksgiving game in Detroit, and that 123 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: was the other thing that really caught my eye right away, 124 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: and it's what I wrote about on the website. In 125 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: my column, you wrote the ten things about the schedule, 126 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: and I kind of focused on this one particular element, 127 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: which is that the Packers have two Thursday games, so 128 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: you have two short weeks, and so that gives you 129 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: two different segments of your schedule. War you're playing two 130 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: games in a span of five days, but the two 131 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: games in five days are Lions Commanders and then Vikings 132 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: Lions the week of Thanksgiving. The Packers have nine games 133 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: on their schedule in twenty twenty five against teams that 134 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: made the playoffs a year ago. Four of those nine 135 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: are in these like Sunday Thursday, these two games within 136 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: five days things. We've been a part of these before 137 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: West because every team has to deal with it when 138 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: you play a Sunday followed by a Thursday. And yeah, sure, 139 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: there's plenty of times where you win when you lose one, 140 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: and that's how this league goes. But man, you can 141 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: really set yourself up with a lot of momentum if 142 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: you can win both of those games, and you can 143 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: really find yourself, you know, struggling and needing a reset 144 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: if you drop two games in a span of five days. 145 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: These are inflection points in any given NFL schedule when 146 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: you have to when you have to cram two games 147 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: into such a short timeframe. There and the fact that 148 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: all of the matchups, the four matchups in these two 149 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: five day spans that the Packers are dealing with, one 150 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: in September, one in November leading into things giving the 151 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: matchups are huge, they're going to have made the major 152 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: implications because of the teams that the Packers are facing 153 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: in those in those matchups. 154 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: An excellent point by you, And I mean, is there 155 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: any better example of what you just talked about than 156 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three Packers. I mean, their season was 157 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 2: at a crossroads when they hosted the Los Angeles Chargers. 158 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: They beat the Chargers, and then they surprise the world 159 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: and they beat a streaking Detroit Lions, completely turned the 160 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: season around, and the week after that beat the Kansas 161 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: City Chiefs, who end up going on and winning the 162 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 163 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: Right. 164 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's that's the difference that the team 165 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: that went from four and six to suddenly being right 166 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 2: there at six and six by a matter of just 167 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: taking care of business. Yeah. 168 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's a as as I said, these are these 169 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: are crucial stretches and the fact that the Packers have 170 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: two of them on the schedule and the matchups that 171 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: they're facing in those are are going to have such 172 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: big implications in the NFC picture if things go somewhat 173 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: as we expect with teams like the Lions and the 174 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Commanders and the Packers and the Vikings staying as contenders. 175 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: So before we shot this, and we also did our 176 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: little Q and a video as well beforehand, I have 177 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 2: a one guy. There's one human being that I will 178 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: always say yes to an interview. It's Mike Keller, good 179 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: friend of mine, do the pregame radio show with them, 180 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: works for iHeartRadio to Milwaukee. And I told him like, 181 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: this today is the only day I was like. I 182 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: was like, I wasn't, but it was because of Mike. 183 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll do it for you. We have enough 184 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: other stuff going on, I'll do it for you. So 185 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: the point I'm illustrating with that is we got into 186 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 2: an interesting discussion. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts 187 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: on this, because the question came up about all of 188 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: us thinking that we were going to be playing the 189 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: Gremit Packers will be playing on Christmas here based on 190 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: the fact that they were going to take on Chicago 191 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 2: Bears on that Saturday in week sixteen. 192 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, December twentieth. 193 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: So my question for you is, and then I'll tell 194 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: you what my response was this, would you rather be 195 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: home on Christmas for a game or be in Detroit 196 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving? Or be on the road doesn't have to 197 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: be Detroit, but just be on the road for Thanksgiving 198 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: or home on Christmas. 199 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: US. Given my druthers, I would probably say home on Christmas. 200 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: But I will say this play playing on Thanksgiving. I 201 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: don't mind. I don't mind the Detroit game because A 202 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: it's a quick flight and B it's the earliest game 203 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: on things true. So you know, I mean I have 204 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: I've covered. I'd have to count it up. I think 205 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: I've covered four or five of the Packers Thanksgiving games 206 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: in Detroit in my tenure. And now this year they 207 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: moved the kickoff back to noon Central. It used to 208 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: be eleven thirty and uh and with that eleven thirty kickoff, 209 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: like I'd be I'd be walking back in the door 210 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: at home at like six thirty for a late Thanksgiving 211 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: dinner with my family. You know, can't quite get back 212 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: that early now because they've they've moved the kickoff back 213 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: to twelve. But but I I've never minded that the 214 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving game in Detroit because because of how close it is, 215 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: and because it's the early one last year hosting Thanksgiving, 216 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, with the night game, you know, eating all 217 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: the turkey during the day and then having to work 218 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: really really late hours with. 219 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: All of our Yeah, we were super productive. 220 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: That was that was That was tough. That was tough, 221 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: and it was the uh, that was the if I'm 222 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: not mistaken, that was the start of what was at 223 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: four night games in a row or whatever last year. 224 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: So at least there's nothing like that that's on the 225 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty fifth schedule. 226 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: If I never have to eat turkey in the ford 227 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: Field press box again in my life, though, I wouldn't 228 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: necessarily well upset. 229 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: And and that's the thing is when I know that 230 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: I'm coming home to have Thanksgiving dinner, like I just 231 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: don't even eat the turkey and the press. 232 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: Well good because it's usually gone by the time you 233 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: end up getting and. 234 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even worry about it, you know, 235 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: I just maybe grab a couple of side dishes that 236 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: I know aren't going to be back at home. 237 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: But I I just it was something the question I 238 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: come up with Mike and we're doing the show on 239 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: because it was like I kind of, you know, dodged 240 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: a little bit of a fiasco there and not having Christmas. 241 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, ah, I think I would have taken Christmas 242 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: over being in. 243 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, home on Christmas is always a good thing. The 244 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: other thing I want to mention though, with regard to 245 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: that Thanksgiving game, So you have the Vikings on the 246 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: Sunday before Thanksgiving at Lambeau, then you go to Detroit 247 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. That begins the final seven weeks of the 248 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: regular season, in which five of the Packers NFC North 249 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: games are in those final seven including, as you mentioned earlier, 250 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: playing the Bears twice in a span of three weeks 251 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: there in December. So you have Vikings Lions on Thanksgiving week, 252 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: you got the two games with the Bears in a 253 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: span of three weeks, and then you finish in week 254 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: eighteen at Minnesota. So five of your six division games 255 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: are essentially from Thanksgiving week to the end of the year, 256 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: really really backloaded in terms of those NFC North matchups, 257 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: and that's where they're intriguing piece to this schedule. 258 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: It definitely is. And again we were trying to find 259 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: some information on this as far as if there's ever 260 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 2: been anything where it's been that backlogged. The only other 261 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 2: time they played five games in the last seven weeks 262 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: was since O two the ray alignment was twenty twelve. 263 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 2: But to have this many in that tide of a 264 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 2: window is remarkable. And to go two and a half 265 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: months without playing your division, it seems like I couldn't 266 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 2: give you the exact year on this. It seems like 267 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: they've actually done this a couple times now, at least 268 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: during my time covering the team, where they go these 269 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 2: elongated stretches without playing the NFC North and then everything 270 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: kind of feels funneled there at the end. Again, we'll 271 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: have to wait and see. Packers took care of business 272 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: last year against the AFC South. I think they might 273 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 2: have cleared out the AFC South by the time they 274 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: played Minnesota. Was it there was like one team I 275 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: don't think they had faced yet. 276 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that's true. 277 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: By the time they had already wrapped up their four 278 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: games against the celt So it's just the way schedules go, 279 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: you know, the way you got to build a schedule somehow. 280 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: Not everybody's always going to be happy for me personally, 281 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: but neat to see another mid season by. I enjoyed 282 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: the mid season by as someone that you know is 283 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: trying to formulate a life out of in addition to 284 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 2: having a career. But be that as it may, Yeah, 285 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be a vallenge and something that Packers 286 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: have to tackle. 287 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that the early bye is not ideal. We've we've 288 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: talked about that plenty of times in previous years. The 289 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: Packers have certainly had their fair share of early bye weeks. 290 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because back in twenty twenty two when 291 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: the Packers went to London in Week five, I believe 292 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: it was the league gives you the option after an 293 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: international trip that you can take your bye the next week, 294 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: and the Packers chose not to because they felt that 295 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: week six was too early. They wanted to have the 296 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: bye later in the season. So the Packers have turned 297 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: down that early bye, Yet there's all these other years 298 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: where the league just hands it to them anyway and 299 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: says year week five, week six, here's your buye. This 300 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: is when you get your week off. 301 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: And the year they got that London game. They turned 302 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: down the Week six by next Oh, here you go 303 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: Week thirteen, enjoy yourself, or in December, enjoy your break. Yeah, 304 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 2: they put it. 305 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: They put it at the extreme extreme. 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All right, we talked 315 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: about some general themes and whatnot with regard to the schedule, 316 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: but let's just highlight some individual games that catch your eye, 317 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: that get the old metaphorical circle on the calendar, what 318 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: jumps out at you. 319 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: I'm really interested to see the Cincinnati Bengals come in 320 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: here after the bye. We haven't in all the content 321 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 2: you and I have done so far, we really haven't 322 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: talked much about that yet. But the Joe Burrow show 323 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: there with Daniels and obviously you know T Higgins and 324 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: everything he's done in this league. This is gonna be 325 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: our Jamar Chase excuse me, yeah, Chase. This is going 326 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: to be a huge, huge challenge trying to slow them down. 327 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: I mean, people forget they just missed out of making 328 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: the playoffs, but there might not have been a hotter 329 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: team down the stretch last season than the Bengals once 330 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: they started getting everything together. Yea, it looked like I 331 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: mean in a lot of ways, Mike, it's really hard 332 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: for a guy to be in like legitimate MVP contention 333 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: when you're not on a playoff team. But I mean, 334 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, a case could be made that he was 335 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: the most important player to any team last year based 336 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: on what that could have potentially been like for Cincinnati 337 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: had he not been around. But they were able to 338 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: get some moment at the end of the season. Packers 339 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: have a tough stretch, and we've talked a lot about 340 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: that early stretch, but coming out of the by and 341 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: then immediately getting that greatest show on what Kentucky Bluegrass 342 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: down there in Cincinnati, that is not going to be 343 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: an easy task at all. 344 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say I'm looking forward to seeing Joe 345 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: Burrow and Jamar Chase like in person for the first 346 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: time because the only other time in the era of 347 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: those two stars for Cincinnati that the Packers have played 348 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: them was during one of the two I guess it 349 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: would have been twenty twenty one, one of the COVID 350 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: seasons when we actually weren't traveling, so that ended up 351 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: being the crazy overtime game in Cincinnati with the missed 352 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: field goals and everything else, and then the Packers ultimately prevailed. 353 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: But you and I have never seen Joe Burrow Jamar 354 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: Chase in that offense like live, you know, like. 355 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: We didn't eve get a chance to see him in 356 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: the joint practices. Yeah, no, that's true. 357 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: We did. 358 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: It's them with that too, because of his calf injury 359 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: or whatever. 360 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: It was. Yeah. Interesting, interesting tidbit I'll throw at you though, 361 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: because obviously the Packers and the Bengals don't play each 362 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: other all that often. The last two times Green Bay 363 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: and Cincinnati have played in the regular season, the game 364 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: has gone to overtime. 365 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, twenty seven. I didn't know that. 366 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, and now here we are again 367 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. But sticking with the AFC North, 368 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: I don't have to explain myself here, but certainly the 369 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: game in Pittsburgh under the lights, primetime game along the 370 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: Allegheny there in Pittsburgh, it's a great setting for football. 371 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful stadium, that's a really neat place. And 372 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: if what we think is going to happen at the 373 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: quarterback position for that matchup, of course that that game 374 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh has ori. And then speaking of parking Rudolph right, yeah, yeah, exactly, 375 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: speaking of players that we haven't gotten to see live, Lamar. 376 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: Jackson, Yeah, finally. 377 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: Now, of course it's going to be at the end 378 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: of the season. Who knows where things could be injury wise. 379 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: Anything can happen in this league. But in week seventeen, 380 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: the Packers will be hosting the Baltimore Ravens either on 381 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: Saturday or Sunday. It's one of those games that could 382 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: that could end up being chosen for either day. But 383 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: the only time in the Lamar Jackson era that the 384 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Packers and the Ravens have met was in twenty twenty one, 385 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson was hurt and Tyler Huntley was the 386 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,959 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Ravens in that game. Another one that 387 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: we were not there for in Baltimore, and another one 388 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: that was kind of crazy coming right down to the 389 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: end and the Packers had to stop a two point 390 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: conversion in order to win the game as the as 391 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: Huntley was leading this like two touchdown comeback in the 392 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. But I'll be I'll be really intrigued to 393 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: potentially see Lamar Jackson, you know, live and playing for real, 394 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: not just in a preseason game, but uh but live 395 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: and here we go. 396 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just it was impressive just watch him 397 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: in the you know, the joint Yeah, the joint practice, 398 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: you know. And just I mean the guy moves different, 399 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 2: he throws a ball different, and just he is he 400 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: is a specimen in every every way you could put 401 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 2: it in, one of the more unique skill sets of 402 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 2: this generation of quarterbacks. Yeah, So it'll be really neat. 403 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: It's it's also curious that it's going to have that 404 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: sort of December flavor to it as well, seeing how 405 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: those elements could potentially affect the game. The last week 406 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty. 407 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Five, Yeah, and the Ravens have certainly played their share 408 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: in the cold in the AFC North, and not only 409 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, but Pittsburgh and Cleveland and Cincinnati and all 410 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: that they've they've played their share of cold weather games. 411 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: And uh, I almost think like Lamar Jackson would be 412 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: even more dangerous in the cold. 413 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: For sure. 414 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: He's already hard enough to tackle, and then you add 415 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: you add the element into it, and it could it 416 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: could be even more difficult there. Yeah, your thoughts also 417 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: on the defending Super Bowl champs and the team that 418 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: knocked the Packers out of the playoffs last year coming 419 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: to Lambeufield. The Eagles will be in Green Bay for 420 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: a Monday night contest and that will be in November, 421 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: November tenth. 422 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 2: If we're we're getting close here to the end of 423 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: May here, So we'll see what happens as far as 424 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 2: these tush push guidelines, and you know, the NFL tabled 425 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 2: the discussions. It'd be interesting to see if the Philadelphi 426 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 2: Eagles get a different reception to what they've been giving 427 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: out as it relates to that, if that happens to 428 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: make its way into the season in the schedule and 429 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: still being allowed in that particular form, this season, I'd 430 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 2: be curious, you know, Packer fans would respond to seeing it. 431 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: That being said, it's a very good opponent, very tough opponent, 432 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 2: and one of the more well rounded teams in the 433 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: National Football League in terms of their construct I really 434 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: like how Howie Roseman has built this team. Huge offensive lines, 435 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 2: athletic offensive lines, but they have been as good as 436 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: anybody in the National Football League. When you're talking about 437 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: why does this team become a super Bowl champion, Well, 438 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 2: it's because they've drafted well and they've signed players very well. 439 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: Howie Roseman has not missed a lot of his swings lately. 440 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 2: It just seems like things have kind of fallen their 441 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: way in a lot of regards, and this will be 442 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: a huge test for the Packers. I mean, again, there's 443 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 2: a reason why, Mike, when we were going into this week, 444 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: you were talking about I think it's what the fifth 445 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: or sixth most difficult schedule based on last year. Yeah, 446 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: that Green Bay has and that doesn't necessarily tell you 447 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: it's going to be that way again. Things can change quickly. 448 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: It happened a few years ago for the Packers where 449 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: I think it was the twenty twenty two season. It 450 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: looked like it was going to be really yah. 451 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Supposedly it was an easy schedule based on the records 452 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: from the prior year, and then everything kind of flipped 453 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: in terms of the expectations for certain teams. 454 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. Was it the East? One 455 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: of the teams has just played out of their mind 456 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: relative to what everybody thought. Well, the Giants were one 457 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: of them. 458 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: They beat the Packers in London and ended up going 459 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: on to win road playoff game in Minnesota. When, yes, 460 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: when that season was all said and done. The other 461 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: thing that you were talking about the Eagles, We were 462 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: talking about the Lions earlier and losing both coordinators. The 463 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: Eagles are an interesting story because a few years back, 464 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: they go to the Super Bowl. 465 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: They lose a. 466 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: Close one in the Super Bowl to the Kansas City Chiefs. 467 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: Right at the end of the game, they lose both 468 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: of their coordinators to head coaching jobs. They come back 469 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: the next year and they start ten to one. They're 470 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: looking like they're headed for the number one seed in 471 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: the NFC playoffs. Everything completely unravels over the last two 472 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: months of the regular season. They end up getting into 473 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: the playoffs as a wild card. They go one and 474 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: done and they're out, and then they come back the 475 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: next year and they win, and they win the whole thing. 476 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: So you just you just never know in this league. 477 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: And whether any of that will apply to the Detroit 478 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: Lions and what they're going to be going through this year, 479 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: who knows. 480 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 2: But we've done so many shows. I can't remember if 481 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: you brought this up on this one or if it 482 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: was on the Live Q and A. We did too, 483 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 2: But your point about the Denver Broncos too, and the 484 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: fact that the Packers could potentially play a cold weather 485 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: at no game at elevation is very interesting. 486 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, at Denver, at Denver in the middle of December. 487 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: It's very rare, for rare in this franchise's history, or 488 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: at least in the last you know, forty years of 489 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: this franchise's history, to play a road game in the snow. Now, 490 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: we don't know if it's going to be a snow 491 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: game in the mountains that day, that day out in Denver, 492 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: but it would really be It would really be interesting 493 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 1: to see the Packers, you know, wearing the road uniforms 494 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: and yet having all the snow falling around, because we've 495 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: seen it so often at Lambeau, but it doesn't happen 496 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: away from home very often. 497 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: And I forgot the point I was trying to make 498 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: with the Baltimore Ravens. By the way, I found the 499 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: stat and I think it was our communications department. I 500 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: create my superlatives, they do theirs. Never this is the 501 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: point I was trying to bring it back full circle. 502 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: Lates the Packers have ever played the Ravens too in 503 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: the season week seventeen, Week seventeen, late in the season. 504 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: So if the Ravens are who everybody thinks they are, 505 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: and they've been the last few years, and the Packers 506 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 2: can continue to capitalize on their youth and their optimism 507 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: and obviously their upside, that could be a really interesting 508 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 2: intraconference game that late in the season. 509 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, well with that, we will call it a 510 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: rap on this edition of Packers Unscript. It'd be sure 511 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team on 512 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: Packers dot com and if you want anything on the schedule, 513 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: we've got stories. There's a great schedule release video. Hats 514 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: off to our social media team and all the folks 515 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: that were involved in that had a lot of fun 516 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: doing it. We don't take ourselves too seriously as you 517 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: can probably tell, but stories, videos, everything with regard to 518 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: the schedule, graphics, cool stuff you can print out, put 519 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: it on your refrigerator and gear up for when September 520 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: rolls around. But with that for Wes, I am Mike, 521 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in everybody, and we will see 522 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: you next time.