WEBVTT - Charli D’Amelio ON: How Our Thoughts Define Our Reality & Ways to Shift Self-Criticism Into Curiosity

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<v Speaker 1>It was one day no one cared what I did,

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<v Speaker 1>no one cared what I wore, what I looked like,

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<v Speaker 1>what I said, and then all of a sudden, that

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<v Speaker 1>was all anyone would talk about. I think back to

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that I said in interviews, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate comments, don't bother me, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you've went home and cried all night because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>While filming season three, our entire family was going through

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. It's hard to watch back those episodes. I say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know to everything, but the thing is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for choosing us every single week

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<v Speaker 2>through on Purpose, we can do that together. Today's guest

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<v Speaker 2>is someone that I've never had the joy of sitting

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<v Speaker 2>down with one on one on the show, So I'm very,

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<v Speaker 2>very excited to invite the superstar crown the reigning Queen

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<v Speaker 2>of TikTok by The New York Times, Charlie Demilio one

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<v Speaker 2>of the first on the platform to hit over one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million followers and is the current leading female TikTok creator,

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<v Speaker 2>now one of the most recognizable faces online, in print,

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<v Speaker 2>and on screen with our families Hulu docu series The

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<v Speaker 2>Demilio Show in May of twenty twenty one, and Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>and Dixie launched their own clothing brands social tourist. Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>recently starred in Prada's global ad campaign at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of twenty twenty two, and in June of twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie launched her first ever Fragrance venture Born Dreamer alongside

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<v Speaker 2>her family. In May of twenty twenty three, they launched

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<v Speaker 2>Damelio foot where, under Demelio Brands, Charlie's influence on social

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<v Speaker 2>media's and her coveted spots on all the major lists.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to welcome to the show, Charlie Demilio. Charlie,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for doing this. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>being here.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me. I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've been really looking forward to this because I

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<v Speaker 2>want to say this to you, because I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever talked about this with you, but you come

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<v Speaker 2>up in more conversations or when I'm doing keynotes on stages,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really funny because I kind of think of

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<v Speaker 2>you randomly and often I want to share this to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never said this to you, and it comes up

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<v Speaker 2>because I have watched your journey from Afar as everyone

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<v Speaker 2>has for such a long time, and I've really deeply

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<v Speaker 2>admired just how phenomenally skilled old you are at what

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<v Speaker 2>you do. I think you're a phenomenal dancer. You're an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible performer, and if I'm ever presenting or talking to

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<v Speaker 2>anyone about social media or digital or whatever is, I

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<v Speaker 2>always bring your name up because I think you're one

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<v Speaker 2>of those people that obviously got your moment on TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>when it took off and everything, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there were just years and years of practice and hard

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<v Speaker 2>work that went behind it that we don't always see.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just wanted to share that with you as

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<v Speaker 2>we kick off today that I think it's incredible and

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've been practicing for this life that you

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<v Speaker 2>live since you were like four years old, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I always try and highlight that, and so I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think of you in that context often.

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<v Speaker 1>And so no, thank you, I mean I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when it comes to social media, it's very

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<v Speaker 1>easy to get on yourself and say it was just luck.

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<v Speaker 1>But to hear that from someone like you as definitely

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<v Speaker 1>you know, puts it into a different perspective that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't always let myself feel, which is really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Good, I'm glad, Thank you. Do you still kind of

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<v Speaker 2>kid yourself and just say it's luck to yourself. Now

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<v Speaker 2>after all these years, do you still feel that way?

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<v Speaker 1>I do, and I think that, you know, having that

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of my mind definitely keeps me a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more humble and helps me. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't something that I was asking for looking for, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've all, like my entire life, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>filming videos, whether it's like I was ten and look

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<v Speaker 1>at how I do this or this, how do my makeup?

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<v Speaker 1>Like always just making videos. That was always something I

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<v Speaker 1>loved and I never shared them with anyone until TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really it's crazy to think back about those

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<v Speaker 1>times and how they probably really did help me get

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<v Speaker 1>to where I am now.

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<v Speaker 2>I love what you said that luck, or viewing your

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<v Speaker 2>success as luck, helps you stay humble. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>such a beautiful trait and quality to aspire for and

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<v Speaker 2>to always practice. At the same time, though, I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 2>that when you see it through the lens of luck,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes it can affect your self esteem or self worth

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<v Speaker 2>because you're like, oh, I just got lucky, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I don't deserve this. I don't know if those thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>come up at the same time as trying to stay humble.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this side of like low self esteem that we

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<v Speaker 2>all go through.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean absolutely, I think it's hard not to feel

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<v Speaker 1>that way, especially A lot of my journey was everyone

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<v Speaker 1>telling me that I didn't deserve it, kind of feeding

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<v Speaker 1>into that, and it's starting to really affect, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how I think about myself. Do I deserve anything? Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I where I am? I don't do anything special.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not different than anyone. There's millions of people that

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<v Speaker 1>would probably be better at my job than I am,

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<v Speaker 1>But somehow it's me, And you know, I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>try and separate myself online from who I am in person.

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<v Speaker 1>I always like to say, it's Charlie Demilio whoever Elsie's

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<v Speaker 1>and Charlie who I am when it's just me, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you really have to appreciate the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you work hard for, because I feel like those are

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<v Speaker 1>the moments where I really do feel proud of myself,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't always even when achieving these amazing things,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, it's not really me. It's the people

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<v Speaker 1>that are watching me that got me here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they could have done this to anyone, But when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to things like Dancing with the Stars or

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<v Speaker 1>hosting the Kids Choice Awards, like those were two of

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<v Speaker 1>probably my favorite accomplishments of mine because I really felt

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<v Speaker 1>like I had to work for that and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just moments where I really truly felt proud of myself

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't feel like that very often.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad that you shared that with us, because Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting, isn't it. It's like the reason why you

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<v Speaker 2>did so well on both of those is because you've

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<v Speaker 2>done it for years and years and years. Yeah, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you need to have a moment where you're working really

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<v Speaker 2>hard on one specific thing so that you can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>How long did it take you to make this awareness

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<v Speaker 2>of like there's Charlie Dmillio and then there's Charlie, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how long did it take you to figure that out

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself and to even explain it in that way?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it definitely took me a while. I always knew

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of my mind. It was like I

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<v Speaker 1>would do certain brand deals or ads and they'd have

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<v Speaker 1>this creative and I'd do it and I put on

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<v Speaker 1>this like super happy smiley, like obviously catering to a

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<v Speaker 1>younger audience, which I love doing, but that's not who

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<v Speaker 1>I am at heart, and I think growing up and

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<v Speaker 1>I started this when I was what fifteen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was turning seventeen and eighteen and I was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting tattoos and I would curse and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, whoa, this is crazy, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I do in my normal day to

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<v Speaker 1>day life, Like this is who I am. So I

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<v Speaker 1>really just had to the version that people don't like

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<v Speaker 1>isn't even me, you know, it's what they nitpick out

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<v Speaker 1>of certain things that I do. And I think coming

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<v Speaker 1>to that realization honestly over the past few months, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this past year, I think has been probably one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most helpful things to not let what other people

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<v Speaker 1>say get to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I empathize and feel so compassionate for how difficult that

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<v Speaker 2>could be to be that young and have millions and

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<v Speaker 2>millions and millions of people having an opinion on everything

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<v Speaker 2>from what you wear to what you say, to what

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<v Speaker 2>you do and who you date and just everything right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine being your age and being put under

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<v Speaker 2>a magnifying glass like in the way you have, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is also very unique because I think TikTok

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<v Speaker 2>put people under a magnifying glass in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>it's also never been done before. It's like a first

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<v Speaker 2>time thing. So what has changed about then? Fifteen and

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<v Speaker 2>you're only eighteen now, so it's only been three years, right,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen nineteen. Now you're nineteen now, so it's been four years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in those four years, what has What would you say

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<v Speaker 2>is the biggest change that you've seen in who you

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<v Speaker 2>thought you were then and who you are now?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just you know, I was in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one day no one cared what I did,

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<v Speaker 1>No one cared what I wore, what I looked like,

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<v Speaker 1>what I said, and then all of a sudden, that

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<v Speaker 1>was all anyone would talk about. It happened so fast,

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<v Speaker 1>and I put up a shield to kind of protect myself,

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<v Speaker 1>which helped me but also hurt me a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>because it was hard to get out of that shell.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I think back to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I said in interviews like three years ago, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hate comments, don't bother me, And I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>went home and cried all night because of it. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I would say things to make people think one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but inside I was very sheltered, and I went through

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty big stage for maybe like the first two

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<v Speaker 1>years where I always looked out for the best in people,

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<v Speaker 1>and I got myself hurt a lot. You know, people

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make videos together and they would invite me

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<v Speaker 1>over for collapse and then they would all hang out

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<v Speaker 1>and I wouldn't be invited, and I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>be so confused, and the excuse was always You're too

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<v Speaker 1>young or you know whatever, and I was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are just hanging out at a house, Like how

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<v Speaker 1>am I too young for that? But not too young

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<v Speaker 1>to have in all your videos? And it took a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, distancing myself, a lot of talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my family, going to therapy, you know, figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>who I am outside of anyone watching, to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more content with myself and understand that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need to have all of these people like me.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm fine on my own. I love being

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<v Speaker 1>by myself. I'm fine with the friends that I have

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<v Speaker 1>in my corner that I've had for years, or the

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<v Speaker 1>new friends that come into my life that actually love

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<v Speaker 1>me for me, And you know, there's nothing that I

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<v Speaker 1>can do. I feel like now I'm kind of at

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<v Speaker 1>a point where, you know whatever, Like that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>my motto. I always am just like all right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't care, and focusing more on

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<v Speaker 1>the things that really matter to me. Like it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>so lame because I constantly talk about my dogs like

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<v Speaker 1>they're my children, but literally like spending the day with them,

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of them, my responsibility being them and not myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to worry about work or anything. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't care if I have a million followers or none, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, just focusing more on the things that

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<v Speaker 1>actually matter, the fans that actually love me no matter what,

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<v Speaker 1>like have been there for years or brand new, and

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<v Speaker 1>actually like who I am and not just what I

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<v Speaker 1>put out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Yeah, it's and it's so hard because so

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<v Speaker 2>much of what you put out is you or is

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<v Speaker 2>a part of you. Yeah, And it can feel like

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest part of you because it gets the biggest response. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's almost confusing in your brain to be

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<v Speaker 2>like when you're with your dogs, it's a small part

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<v Speaker 2>of your life where there's a small amount of people there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's actually a bigger, yeah, bigger importance significance.

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<v Speaker 1>To you, because I have so much life that no

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<v Speaker 1>one sees. I have so much about me that no

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<v Speaker 1>one knows about, and I'm fine with that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I need to change myself for

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<v Speaker 1>anyone because I've I did that for so long and

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<v Speaker 1>it was so exhausting and I worked so much while

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<v Speaker 1>being so burnt out and just wanting to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>get away from everyone, that now what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do is definitely a lot more important than what everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>telling me to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's really tough. Like when I've spoken to even

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<v Speaker 2>like young musicians and music stars, it's like most people

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<v Speaker 2>get their break when they're like fifteen years old or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, and naturally everyone's older than you. And

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<v Speaker 2>as a fifteen year old, you're used to having parents

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<v Speaker 2>or people older than you telling you what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And so whether it's your manager or whether it's your

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<v Speaker 2>agent or your team or whatever it is, they book you,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're doing what they say. Because you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>what the adults say, it's kind of normal. And now

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<v Speaker 2>that you're an adult yourself, you're kind of like trying

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<v Speaker 2>to take that back. What was it that you felt

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<v Speaker 2>you did that wasn't you, or that you felt you

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<v Speaker 2>were doing because the adults are saying to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or what were those things that you felt like you

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<v Speaker 2>moved away from who you wanted to be or who

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<v Speaker 2>you were.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I, you know, for quite some time, to

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<v Speaker 1>just do whatever anyone said to make them like me,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it was how I dressed or how I talked,

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<v Speaker 1>or what I said anything what type of videos I make.

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to every comment, whether it was like

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that hoodie, well never wearing that again, like

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<v Speaker 1>this person doesn't like it, and dictating every decision I

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<v Speaker 1>made through what other people said. And I mean for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, the beginning, I was only surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of adults and twenty five year olds and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff. And they would always say how

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<v Speaker 1>mature I am. But I was just trying to fit in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I was still in high school still, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you want to be with the cool kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So the people that I thought was cool, I would

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<v Speaker 1>do anything to be like them, you know, dressed different

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<v Speaker 1>every day, or or speak about specific things, or try

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<v Speaker 1>to sound cool or change myself. And it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>not worth it, because why am I going to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>And how long am I going to do that? Until

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<v Speaker 1>they realize that it's like, okay, we get it, like

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<v Speaker 1>you like whatever, we like, you don't have to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. It's just I think it's it's so unfair

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself to have to do that all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>That I love that you use that word unfair. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like it's just unfair to do that to yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>That that really hit me and resonated with me because

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's almost like you're just doing yourself such a

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<v Speaker 2>big disservice by molding yourself into what you think someone wants.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was just a thought they had on one day,

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<v Speaker 2>in one second, in one.

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<v Speaker 1>Car, and then and then you have no idea who

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<v Speaker 1>you are. I had to sit with myself and say,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what I like. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea how I want to dress. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>how I want to do my makeup, or what's my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite song or what's my favorite movie. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, like I do not know anything about myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And my answer to every question was I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I actually had to talk to my therapist about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I say, I don't know to everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is, I really don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who I am. I feel like all I know

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<v Speaker 1>is what anyone tells me to do. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a really weird feeling because how do you

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<v Speaker 1>get out of that? How do you find out what

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<v Speaker 1>you like? But you really just have to try things,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of your house. I was not leaving my

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<v Speaker 1>house ever, Like I would go through these phases where

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want anyone to talk to me, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do anything. I just want to stay in

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<v Speaker 1>my room all day, watch TV, like not get ready, nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've been really low a couple times. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think this pastime that I got really low was when

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<v Speaker 1>I was like okay. My parents even said they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna let you. We're not going to sit

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<v Speaker 1>here and watch you rot in bed all day and

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<v Speaker 1>not do anything, and just like, we can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so unfair, and especially when you don't live with

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<v Speaker 1>your parents and they're noticing that it's an issue. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to kind of really dig deep and

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<v Speaker 1>ask the questions that I didn't ask for so long

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. Maybe I didn't want to know the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was too much or scary to figure it out

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<v Speaker 1>and be your own person. But I think it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so much easier, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's also just you know, being it's really

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<v Speaker 2>hard when you're living your own journey. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>realize as you're getting older and as you are maturing,

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<v Speaker 2>as everyone does, you're looking going I can't really expect

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<v Speaker 2>my fifteen year old self to know all this anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think you know for me when I think

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<v Speaker 2>about being back to fifteen, and I didn't know anything

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<v Speaker 2>about myself and I wasn't dealing with the pressures you

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<v Speaker 2>dealt with or the challenges that you had. And sure

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<v Speaker 2>I had different challenges and different stresses, as I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>everyone does has their own thing. But the point is

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<v Speaker 2>that as a fifteen year old self, you don't really

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<v Speaker 2>know what you like anyway, because it is true you

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to be with the cool kids, or you

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to be like the other people, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting involved in all sorts of things just for people

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<v Speaker 2>to give you approval and validate you, and then all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden it's amazing that you're now coming to

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<v Speaker 2>that point where you're like, I want to know, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think what I love about what you said is

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<v Speaker 2>and it's because I said this often in my books

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<v Speaker 2>and my work, is that knowing what movies you like,

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<v Speaker 2>what food do you like, what songs you like? That

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<v Speaker 2>is the beginning of self awareness. Like, it's that basic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not this complicated, deep thing that it begins with.

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<v Speaker 2>It really starts with those things. It starts with these

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<v Speaker 2>really simple everyday choices that we all have to make.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to ask you simple everyday choices. What

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<v Speaker 2>is it now that Charlie likes? Like, what is it

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<v Speaker 2>that Charlie has discovered that not Charlie d'milio, but Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>enjoys and appreciates that. What are the joys of life

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<v Speaker 2>that your dogs obviously mentioned? Yeah, but what are some

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that brings you joy that you feel

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<v Speaker 2>you're discovering for the first time?

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<v Speaker 1>Things that bring me joy? I love cleaning. That's something

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds so lame but is so therapeutic.

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<v Speaker 2>I love what about cleaning? Because I want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know now. The way you said that

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<v Speaker 2>was so much genuineness I'm like, what about cleaning.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, to me, it's just therapeutic, like put something on

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<v Speaker 1>my TV, clean my room, organize my stuff, make it

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<v Speaker 1>how I like it, you know, because there can be

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<v Speaker 1>certain things that, oh, well, you know this is cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I like this, But what picture do I

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<v Speaker 1>want out? What am I proud of and want presented?

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<v Speaker 1>How do I like my bed made? How do I

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<v Speaker 1>like my chargers to be set up? It's like such

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<v Speaker 1>minusculed things that I think makes such a difference, and

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<v Speaker 1>it also makes you feel productive and makes me feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I have my stuff together. And I mean, as

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<v Speaker 1>someone who struggles with obsessive compulsive disorder, that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my like big things where I feel like when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing that, I'm almost clearing my head. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just something that I genuinely enjoy doing and I

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<v Speaker 1>think is super fun. Like this morning, because I've had

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<v Speaker 1>such bad jet lag, I was like, Okay, I can

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<v Speaker 1>either try to go to sleep for the next three

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<v Speaker 1>hours or get up and clean the kitchen and play

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<v Speaker 1>with the dogs. And I was like, all right, let's

0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 1>just get up and do it. You know, I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>up in five minutes and we'll start to do this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You order your coffee and do all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to do to feel together. And that made

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<v Speaker 1>me happy and I was really proud I did that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started my day on a great note and

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<v Speaker 1>now I feel great. So it's just like little things

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<v Speaker 1>that I just I find so much fun in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I mean the team will attest to this too.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like addicted to organizing shelves and bookshelves. So I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take you to the house afterwards, and I have, like

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<v Speaker 2>I have this bookshelf in there that I personally curated,

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<v Speaker 2>like everything, and like even if my wife moves one book,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll notice it, yeah, and I'll be like, where's that

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<v Speaker 2>book going. But it's like I get that, like organizing

0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:32.600
<v Speaker 2>spaces and creating spaces to be spaces you want to

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<v Speaker 2>live in and sit in. Like even this room right now,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I curated it because I want to be in

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<v Speaker 2>this space and I want it to feel comfortable for

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<v Speaker 2>my guess and for myself, and I want it to

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<v Speaker 2>also spark curiosity or whatever it may be. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's interesting how all these tiny things, when you're

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<v Speaker 2>intentional about them, they can spark so much joy without

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<v Speaker 2>trying that hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it might be a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>like the very few parts of my life that I

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else. It's not you know, do it this way

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<v Speaker 1>just get to do this and make it how I want,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fully in control of this task start to finish,

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<v Speaker 1>which you know, Yeah, it's a way to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>being a little bit of a control free Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a great point. What else would you

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<v Speaker 2>what was something that you thought you liked before or

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<v Speaker 2>someone had told you to like before, and now you're like,

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 2>I actually change now, Like that's not how I feel

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, there's definitely a few. I'd say. One thing that

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:29.679
<v Speaker 1>I started to specifically like my own way was music.

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>I you know, would listen to whatever's popular. And I

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:36.720
<v Speaker 1>feel like now I really only listen to the songs

0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.399
<v Speaker 1>that I genuinely enjoy listening to where I relate to,

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and even if it's the most random playlist ever, where

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:47.160
<v Speaker 1>it's like rap, sad music, country music, like all in one,

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy listening to that, and I don't have to

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>listen to whatever everyone else is listening to. And I

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>also can if I want to, If I want to

0:24:56.080 --> 0:25:00.639
<v Speaker 1>listen to whatever's the top one hundred, I'm gonna do that,

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, even in front of other people, Like I

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 1>can play what I like and I'll take suggestions and

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 1>not just what's your favorite song, Well, whatever one's the

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:12.639
<v Speaker 1>top one right now, Like you know, having that to

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>myself is also something really nice.

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Have you discovered any new artists or anyone recently that

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 2>you're like someone that maybe we haven't heard of, or

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:22.840
<v Speaker 2>someone that maybe is less heard of that you like.

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, my favorite artist his name is Pimstones. He doesn't

0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 1>make music anymore, which is really really sad, but he's

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>my favorite artist ever. He's made like some of the

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:36.840
<v Speaker 1>most incredible songs I've ever heard, and they're just so

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>beautiful to listen to. And one of them has been

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>my favorite song for a while. Actually, someone at my

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.159
<v Speaker 1>dance studio when I was like probably thirteen, had a

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 1>solo to it Wow. And ever since then, I've been obsessed.

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And he only has like two songs out on Spotify,

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>but I will listen to the two of them just

0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:00.680
<v Speaker 1>on repeat forever and ever and ever because they're so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow Wow. Yeah, Yeah, I love it. I'll check it out.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 2>Only two songs on Spotify, Yeah, Jamestones, Alright, I'm gonna

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 2>go check it out after this interview. No, I love that,

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's really refreshing and it must feel

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 2>so good. I can see it your face. So you

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 2>just seem so like genuinely happy talking about the things

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 2>that spark joy, that bring you that sense of comfort

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and ease and make life that much more. What if

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:28.120
<v Speaker 2>someone right now is listening and they're like, Charlie, I'm

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.200
<v Speaker 2>struggling with what you just said. Like, I find it

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 2>hard to be open and honest about the things I

0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.679
<v Speaker 2>like because people make fun of me or ridicule me,

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 2>or maybe people tell me that's not cool or whatever.

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 2>It is, Like, what has slowly given you the confidence

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 2>to get there? And what do you think people need

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>to hear to almost feel confident in themselves to say that?

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>I think it just starts with giving yourself permission to

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 1>be open with yourself, because it really, like, as much

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>as it sucks to hear like it is all in

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>your head, you have to work on yourself talk. And

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>I think positive self talk is something that is so

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:13.160
<v Speaker 1>often overlooked because everyone's so overly critical of themselves. You

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>see your face, you know, in the reflection of your phone,

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 1>you're in pictures, background of photos. You're like, oh, I

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 1>hate this one, but this one posted it, and I

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>can't do anything about it. You know, you have to.

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>Once you start speaking in a more positive tone about

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.199
<v Speaker 1>yourself and the people around you, the easier it is

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to feel more positive, you know, instead of I hate

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the way I look today, you know what, my hair

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>is doing something different and I kind of like it,

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, starting with those little little things that sound

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 1>so so like it's so tiny, who even cares? You know,

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:49.959
<v Speaker 1>it's in my head. It's not affecting anyone, but it's

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.480
<v Speaker 1>affecting yourself. So I think just the more you can

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>be positive and open with yourself and not so overly

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:02.280
<v Speaker 1>critical of yourself. If you like a movie and no

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>one else likes that movie, doesn't mean it's a bad

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>movie and you can't like it. You can still enjoy

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>watching it, and Okay, we just have different opinions. That's normal,

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>and they probably like stuff I don't like, but that

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't take away from what they like. It's just, you know,

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>the way you talk to yourself is so important.

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're so right, and it's so subtle, like those

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 2>thoughts as you just said, Like I love that switch

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 2>that you just made between I don't like how my

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 2>hair looks today, or oh my head's doing something different

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 2>today and that's interesting or it looks cool, whatever it

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>may be. There's an amazing book for those who are

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 2>more interested in what Charlie's talking about right now. It's

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 2>called Psycho cybernetics, and it's this whole idea of how

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>our thoughts completely define our reality and how as you

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 2>just said, studies showed that we have sixty to eighty

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 2>thousand thoughts per day, and eighty percent of them are

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>negative and repetitive. So we're often having the same thought,

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 2>which is like I don't like how I look or

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't like how my hair looks, or I don't

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:06.959
<v Speaker 2>like this about me or whatever it may be. And

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you keep having that thought, oh yeah, and then it

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>just spirals and then that's all you feel about yourself,

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and then it becomes your reality. So that book really

0:29:15.440 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>helped me. It's an old school classic in this space,

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 2>but it convinces you that you can change your thoughts

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>and it's not like you're lying to yourself, right, Like,

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to address this for people who think that

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>positive This is not about positive thinking. This is not

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.200
<v Speaker 2>like looking at yourself and going I'm amazing and I'm special.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Like that stuff doesn't work either. Yeah, but it's almost

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 2>just tweaking your thoughts slightly to being How do you

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 2>change from being critical to just being curious? And that

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>little switch can change everything exactly.

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 1>And I think It's so important because getting to the

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>point where you have a more positive self talk, it's

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not linear. You know, you're gonna have dips and

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 1>bad days and good days and bad months and good months.

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>You just that's that's how it works. But I notice

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 1>when I start to see myself slip and realize I've

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>been super critical of myself and you know what, I've

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>had such a bad week. That's probably why I'm feeling

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>so insecure, and maybe I'm taking it out on other

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>people or I don't want to leave my house because

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I've critiqued everything about the way I look and not

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>focus on one positive thing at all, you know it.

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Really that's when I noticed, when I started to dip again,

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>how important it is to really focus on being kind

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>to yourself.

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I hope people really hear that, because I

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>think the reason why we're hard on others is because

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 2>we're so hard on ourselves. And the reason we're so

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 2>hard on ourselves is because we're so hard on others.

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>And it's almost like if we were just able to

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>be kinda to the stranger or our friend, our family member,

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 2>then I think we'd actually be able to be more

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>kind to ourselves, and.

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Even like in friendships and relationships, I think it's important

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're telling jokes back and forth to each other

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and maybe they're like, you know how you joke with

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:11.080
<v Speaker 1>your friends, Like sometimes it can be a little mean. Yeah,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've done the why don't we try and

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:15.840
<v Speaker 1>just be really really nice to each other for a

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>little bit, Let's really focus on bringing each other up.

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>And I've actually had that conversation before and I think

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>it's something that sounds almost corny, like let's be super

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>nice to each other, but it really is helpful to

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>have the people that you love. And maybe you say

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 1>it when you're a little bit down, so you know,

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>you're not asking for compliments, You're just asking for a

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>more positive environment around you. And I think that there's

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>something so special about that, and the people around you

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that love you will definitely be open to it, you know.

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think that there's also something in that the

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.720
<v Speaker 1>people that you have around you every day you need

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>to try and build up with you.

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's get I get that people find that hard.

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm also in England, we banter a lot, and

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 2>so I'm banter a lot on my team with my wife, Like,

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>if people see me and my wife together, they're like,

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you guys, hate you too, literally because we'd go so

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 2>hard and even my friends. I just came back from

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 2>London for my sister's wedding and I was there with

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 2>all my boys and I was so we're so intense

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 2>with each other, and that's how close we are, Like

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 2>the more intense we could be. But you're right that sometimes,

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's really interesting because when you get into a

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>one on one with a friend, they'll say how much

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 2>they need the opposite. Like when you're with a group

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.640
<v Speaker 2>of people and you're all bantering, it's great, but then

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 2>when you're one on one with someone, you hear how

0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 2>someone's like, you know, I need a bit of encouragement, right, Yeah,

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 2>I need to know that you think I'm doing good

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 2>at this or whatever it may be.

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>So and also like, don't be afraid to be the

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 1>person that is going to text all the people around

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>you every time you see them do something, I'm so

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>proud of you, like you looked amazing at this or

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 1>this was so cool that you did this. Like be

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that person, be the annoying person. You know, I wish

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I did it more, and I should, and that's something

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>that I'll take into the of the day. But this

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>morning even I had a conversation with my mom and

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>she's got back into modeling. She's in Louisiana right now,

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>so I haven't seen her in a couple of days,

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and she was sending me photos and I didn't answer

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>my phone for a little bit, just because I've been

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>jet lagged and crazy, and I was like, geez, like,

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>if I sent her something, I would want to hear

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>back how proud she is of me. So let me

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>just go over the top, because sometimes you need to

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:30.479
<v Speaker 1>be that person, especially if that's the energy that you're

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>trying to get back. You can't get that without giving

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 1>it too.

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well said, And how's that been, because obviously that's

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>a big part of it, right, especially with the new

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>new docu series as well, like the new season, like

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 2>this idea of your whole family is now in the spotlight. Yeah,

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's almost like people just lump everyone together, especially

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 2>when it's a big family and everyone's got exciting things happening.

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I've obviously interviewed your whole family before,

0:33:54.680 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 2>so I've sat with them and it's wonderful and at

0:33:58.040 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the same time, it's hard to find your own space

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 2>and call of your own identity, right, Like that's challenging.

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that the family dynamic is something that

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 1>is really really confusing, especially for me. I'm the youngest,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>So you spend all your time trying to impress your

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>older sister. You spend all your time trying to prove

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.600
<v Speaker 1>something to your parents, even when they're already proud of you.

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's really confusing. You don't know where you

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.160
<v Speaker 1>fit in. I'm like, I live with my sister. I

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.479
<v Speaker 1>don't live with my parents, but you know, I still

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>want the same support that I got when I lived

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 1>with them. But I can't just go up to their

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>room anytime I'm having a bad day. They don't know

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with me all the time when we're

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:44.720
<v Speaker 1>working together and on a shoot. You know, I hate

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to say this, but sometimes they want more stuff of

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>me or whatever it is, or we want this for

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the family, and then they'll you know, expect extra from me,

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, well, where do I fit in because

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm the youngest, But sometimes they want the most and

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>will you know, it gets the point where it's like,

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>well they they're not there for me, and it's like, well,

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what, everyone's doing their own stuff. Like, everyone

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 1>has their own stuff going on. Dixie has music, my

0:35:14.760 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 1>mom's modeling, my dad's doing business stuff, Like there's so

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>much going on for all of us at the same time.

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:26.120
<v Speaker 1>It can get hard to celebrate every single achievement when

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:29.640
<v Speaker 1>there's just four of us all doing different things, all

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>at the same time, running from place to place, traveling.

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're still figuring that out now. I think

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>while filming season three, our entire family was going through

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot, like mentally and with work. So it's hard

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to watch back those episodes because we were just all

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in such a different place and so confused at where

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>we all stand and taking it out on each other,

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>which I think is probably the biggest regret I have

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>through all of this with my family, is like we

0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>need to have each other's backs through everything, because you know,

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:14.320
<v Speaker 1>through it all, you work with people, you make friends, whatever,

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:20.879
<v Speaker 1>you have to have family or people that you've kind

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>of adopted as family that are there to support you

0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>when there's no cameras or when there's no likes or

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.959
<v Speaker 1>followers anything like. You need that and the hardest time

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>for all of us was when we didn't have each

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>other to lean on, and that is really really shown

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 1>in season three, and like even when I see clips,

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't want to see it at all,

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Like that was such a hard time for all of us,

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>and it's so embarrassing at times to see that, like

0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>people posting it, reposting it, edits of it, edits of

0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 1>times where I was like really really really struggling and

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:59.280
<v Speaker 1>hearing people She's so dramatic, but you hear a tenth

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>of what was acting actually going on, you know, So

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a lot or things are you know, maybe

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I was upset about one thing, but in the show

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 1>it looks like I'm upset about something else. It's like

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of stuff that's just I don't even

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:15.880
<v Speaker 1>want to pay attention to it.

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 2>It must be so challenging, like I've always I've always

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 2>thought about it, like having a show where every one

0:37:22.600 --> 0:37:26.440
<v Speaker 2>of your feelings and emotions is being documented and then

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>broadcast sounds like the most challenging thing ever.

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot.

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like even just that as a premise, and

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I know it's been around forever, and you know, Famili

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 2>has been followed forever, and there's this format has been

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 2>around forever. But I'm like it doesn't get easier because

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 2>of that, because as humans, we love to watch drama.

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 2>We love to watch the gossip. We want to see

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 2>the scoop. The show has like twists and changes, and

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, characters that are upset at each other, and

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you have all of this going on, but then behind

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 2>all of that there's a real human with emotions, yeah,

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.760
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure it all out. Have you been able

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 2>to separate like yourself and then the character on the

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 2>show too, Like do you feel or do you feel

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 2>that's just so interrelated that you're like in.

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Ways, yes for sure, but like people don't realize when

0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you're filming. Sometimes you forget you have a mic on

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.839
<v Speaker 1>and you say something and you're like, I really wasn't

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>that deep, Like, yeah, it's not that important. Sometimes you're

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>really really upset or you're maybe mentally struggling a little bit,

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and you don't have a reason, because sometimes you don't

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>need a reason. Sometimes you just feel really bad and

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that happens, so you go through these well why are

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:46.839
<v Speaker 1>you well, what was happening? You know? Was it this

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 1>person's fault and it's like, well, I don't know. I

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>was just really feeling bad and I didn't have a

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 1>handle on it and I had to film, so you know,

0:38:55.600 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like I don't get a choice of how I

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>how I go into filming. You know, I can try

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and go in with a positive mindset, but after a

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>couple hours, you know, like I'm tired, and you see

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>how maybe I was really feeling that day. Maybe it's

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 1>nothing that was at all in the show, like people

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.959
<v Speaker 1>watching have no idea, but it is so many real

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:24.439
<v Speaker 1>emotions that it's really really hard to separate the two.

0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:27.680
<v Speaker 1>But hopefully, you know, if another season happens, I'll be

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:28.480
<v Speaker 1>able to do that.

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 2>And why did you feel there in season three that

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 2>it got harder with family than easier, Like you'd hope

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:36.319
<v Speaker 2>that season three, like maybe it easier, But why do

0:39:36.320 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>you think it got hard? Is it just that everyone's

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 2>more busy now or.

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we were just all going through so

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 1>much individually and constantly taking it out on each other.

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 1>And you know that's building blocks to working with your family.

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>No family that works together is perfect all the time.

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.160
<v Speaker 1>And if you say you are, you are so wrong,

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.439
<v Speaker 1>especially when you know, we talk about it all the time,

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>like family is everything, but when you're in those moment

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:04.080
<v Speaker 1>where you're like, I'm pissed at this person in my

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>family because of maybe it's something stupid, But to me,

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like it feels like a lot. It feels like

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the entire world on my shoulders for maybe something that

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't that big of a deal, but it feels like

0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that to me. You know, it's just we were all

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.279
<v Speaker 1>going through so much at the same time that there

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.399
<v Speaker 1>was no way that these cameras weren't going.

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:31.200
<v Speaker 2>To catch it. It sounds like even even though obviously

0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 2>you said that, you know, when you're a kid, you

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 2>still want your family to take care of you. And

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 2>obviously now you're in a position where obviously you take

0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 2>care of yourself. You live with your sister. But what

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 2>would you say, has been the biggest skills you've learned

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 2>in how to take care of yourself when you don't

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>have your family to rely on.

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I feel like that's something that

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:58.919
<v Speaker 1>is so confusing to me. Still. I feel so independent

0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:03.760
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I'm traveling without any of my friends

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>or family. I'm on these big work calls, like I

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>have no training for this. I didn't even finish high school. Like,

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to do this. I don't know

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 1>if I'm making the right decision. I don't know if

0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>this is, you know, good or bad. I still call

0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>my dad all the time and I'm like, Okay, but seriously,

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about this? Because I like, this

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>sounds not that cool to me, but apparently it's really

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>like I have no idea how this works. And you know,

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the more I do it, the more I get comfortable

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and learn. But I missed so much of the normal

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.919
<v Speaker 1>growing up, going to college and then coming back for Thanksgiving,

0:41:46.320 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Christmas or whatever it is that I kind of had

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>to like race to figure it out because it was

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 1>one day you're a kid and you're in high school

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and you have no responsibilities, and now you have people

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 1>that are working for you and you're responsible for them,

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're responsible for everything that you do and you're

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>not allowed to mess up. But I'm sixteen. I don't

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>know how to not mess up. I don't know anything,

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Like how am I supposed to learn that without having

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>these real life experiences. So I think the more as

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:18.759
<v Speaker 1>time goes on and the more I'm put in these

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>situations where I have to be independent and a grown up.

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, the easier it gets, but it's still something

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that I really have to figure out in each individual situation.

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm thirty six and I still don't know how

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:35.799
<v Speaker 2>not to mess up. It's just because I think what

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.719
<v Speaker 2>we don't realize is you've got yourself and your identity,

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 2>like you as an individual, which is always changing. So

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 2>whether you're thirty six or whether you're nineteen, you're still

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.080
<v Speaker 2>dealing with that. On top of that, you've now got

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the industry is always changing, so like the platforms are changing,

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 2>and the business is changing, and there's social whatever, all

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 2>of that's always changing. So you've never done it before,

0:42:55.239 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>and most people have never done it before. Yeah, So

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>no matter how smart someone was five months ago, everything's

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.399
<v Speaker 2>changed and so everything's being updated. And then on top

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 2>of all of that, you've got everyone around you who's

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 2>constantly changing and growing and evolving, and so it's so

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.320
<v Speaker 2>hard to ever feel you ever have a handle on

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 2>all areas of your life. Yeah, and so definitely as

0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 2>a sixteen year old now a nineteen year old, Like,

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it's so much to learn quickly, and I think

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.239
<v Speaker 2>you had your you've recently had your prom, or you

0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:25.759
<v Speaker 2>did your prom here right like you?

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had, I had two. We did one on

0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the show. Yeah, and then I went to my high

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.480
<v Speaker 1>school prom at my hometown. Okay, cool, Yeah, which is

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>really fun and like the bit of senior year that

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I got to have, which was really nice because I

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:44.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't get that at all, and a lot of kids

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't during COVID and everything. So I'm definitely not the

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>only person feeling like there's a lot of freshman sophomore

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.879
<v Speaker 1>year of college, like people didn't get that. People didn't

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 1>get that very very integral part of growing up, or

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>whether it's your first job, like this was my first job.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I had never had any true responsibility before, and I

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know how, and there's no rulebook to say, well,

0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>this is how you be an adult. So it's kind

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>of just figuring it out and messing up along the way.

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>But when you mess up and you have so many

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 1>people telling you how you messed up and how that's

0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>horrible and you're doing all of these things wrong, you're like, yeah,

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.279
<v Speaker 1>I know, but this is all I know how to do.

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>You kind of just every day learn a little bit

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and just continue to do your best because that's all

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>you can do.

0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And and do you know what, it's interesting

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 2>because we're hearing that from you, and I think everyone's

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 2>listening right now is going that's me too, Like, you know,

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 2>I think it doesn't matter how old you are, or

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>how wise you are, or how smart, or whether you

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.160
<v Speaker 2>have your own business or you don't, or we're just

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:58.360
<v Speaker 2>all feeling that way because everyone is just trying to

0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 2>do their best, and sometimes my best is not good

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>enough for everyone else, but that's all they could give.

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 2>And I feel that for anyone and everyone today, And

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 2>so I think what you're saying resonates or feels very relatable,

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>at least even to me. And I'm sure everyoneho's listening

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.240
<v Speaker 2>is thinking that as well. Like I'm just trying, yeah,

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's like.

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>The normal human experience. And I definitely get on myself

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 1>about it, but everyone's just doing their best. Like my

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>parents are still figuring out who they are, you know,

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 1>it's ever changing. Like my grandmother before she passed, started

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>to get a handle on all of the social media

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:40.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff and like how to watch me? She would watch

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:45.319
<v Speaker 1>YouTube videos or like see see things online articles and

0:45:45.360 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 1>she would be like, I heard you did this, and

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, that's not true. That's just like an article,

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, and she's like, no, no, but I saw it

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>in the press and I was like, yeah, I know,

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.759
<v Speaker 1>but it's not it's not true. So we had to

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>get a handle on that. But she was changing, and

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>she was evolve with the times, and she didn't know

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:04.400
<v Speaker 1>how it worked, and she was you know, she was

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>she was a lot older and still figuring out who

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.400
<v Speaker 1>she is and well, how do I do this? And

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and I want to watch you, but I have to

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.880
<v Speaker 1>discover this whole new thing. Like everyone is learning something,

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>and she was just doing her best to watch her

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>grandchildren on social media, like it's something that is so

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:26.560
<v Speaker 1>cute and something that seems so simple to me, like

0:46:26.640 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll just download TikTok and watch my videos, you know,

0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:31.399
<v Speaker 1>But to her it was like this whole new thing

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that she has to learn. And I think once you

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:37.399
<v Speaker 1>realize that, literally everyone is just trying to do their

0:46:37.440 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 1>best to get to the next day, Like you can

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:42.799
<v Speaker 1>be a lot easier on yourself, but also a lot

0:46:42.880 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 1>easier on everyone around you.

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 2>And also even just what you said about your grandmother,

0:46:48.800 --> 0:46:53.239
<v Speaker 2>like learning about how she's reading something that sounds so

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 2>true and you're like, no, it didn't happen that way.

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 2>And it's funny because I go through similar things with

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:00.960
<v Speaker 2>me and my family. So my parents will read an

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 2>article about me or whatever, and they'll get really upset

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.479
<v Speaker 2>for me, or they'll get offended for me because there's

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:08.359
<v Speaker 2>something in it that they don't like or whatever it is,

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 2>or there's something said about the family, which you must

0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:13.279
<v Speaker 2>have to do with way more than I do, because

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 2>your family's in the spotlight too. But then they're like, oh, well,

0:47:16.080 --> 0:47:18.400
<v Speaker 2>why did they say that about the family and this

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 2>and that? And I'm like, I didn't say anything, like

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's almost like I didn't even talk about that.

0:47:23.239 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I didn't mention anything. It's just someone coming up with something. Yeah,

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.200
<v Speaker 2>and I can't imagine for you, Like.

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:32.280
<v Speaker 1>It's like the clickbait articles where I'm like, I'm telling

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you that this isn't real. Or she'd like see someone

0:47:36.200 --> 0:47:39.959
<v Speaker 1>online she's like, I don't like them. Why they said

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:42.360
<v Speaker 1>something about you three years ago? Well, they're my friends

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>now She's like, I don't know, I don't like them.

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:48.560
<v Speaker 1>It's like, all right, you're gonna think whatever you think, like,

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. She was so cute and so so supportive.

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Like she spent all day on her iPad just watching

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:57.759
<v Speaker 1>YouTube compilations of my tiktoks, And every time I see her,

0:47:57.800 --> 0:47:59.840
<v Speaker 1>she'd be like, you need to stop cursing on the internet.

0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Was like, I know, I know, that's so sweet. That's

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 2>so funny. Yeah, I mean, and you're nice of you

0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:09.360
<v Speaker 2>not to block out from those videos.

0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. Even my other grandma, she like still swipes

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 1>up on all my stories. She's like, you look great,

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.480
<v Speaker 1>or she'd reply to fan pages like a lot of

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.680
<v Speaker 1>people's grandparents. I hear this all the time from all

0:48:21.719 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the social media kids. It's like my grandma responds to

0:48:24.920 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 1>my fan pages thinking they're me. And I'm like, it's

0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:31.399
<v Speaker 1>so like it's so so ea and I love it.

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:34.920
<v Speaker 1>And I mean my grandma, that's my grandma on my

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:38.799
<v Speaker 1>dad's side, Like she like she still texts me all

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 1>the time like do you look so good in this?

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Or this is so cool? Or anytime I do anything

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 1>where it's like something that she would like, I'll like

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 1>send her a photo and you know she's just proud.

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 1>You know. That's also a good person to talk to

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that's just like always going to be proud of me.

0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Just really nice to have.

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely to allow that in. Do you find that

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.319
<v Speaker 2>you've found, like, I know you're close with Markel, who

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I love to is such a I love Markel's energy.

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.479
<v Speaker 2>I've only met him a couple of times, but he's

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:12.959
<v Speaker 2>so awesome. Have you found that you've got a good

0:49:13.000 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 2>group of friends around you in the industry, Because what

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I've found is that so I have a bunch of

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:21.000
<v Speaker 2>great friends back in London who are like my best friends,

0:49:21.040 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 2>like my best man at my wedding, and like my

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.640
<v Speaker 2>closest friends that I grew up with, and I speak

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:27.480
<v Speaker 2>to them like I speak to my best friend like

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:29.920
<v Speaker 2>three times a week still because it's so important to

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 2>me and it and I need it. And at the

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 2>same time, I also need friends who are in the

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 2>industry because there are certain things that we can all

0:49:36.800 --> 0:49:40.600
<v Speaker 2>understand about the industry, kind of like the idea of yeah,

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 2>don't trust the press on that and whatever, because they

0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:44.720
<v Speaker 2>already know that because they go through the same stuff.

0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Do you find I know, it sounds like you have

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:48.920
<v Speaker 2>a great group of friends back at home. Do you

0:49:48.960 --> 0:49:51.600
<v Speaker 2>find that you've also found the good friends in the

0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 2>industry that you can kind of compare notes with a

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 2>bit too and be like, oh, I just went through

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:57.280
<v Speaker 2>that and this is how I'm feeling.

0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely. I mean Markel's like he's family to me.

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he has shown.

0:50:06.560 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>So much to me just as a person, whether it's

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>talking to me one on one or defending me online,

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:17.120
<v Speaker 1>or you know, defending me to the people around him.

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 1>Like he is someone that every person that meets him

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:23.840
<v Speaker 1>has so much amazing things to say about him, and

0:50:23.880 --> 0:50:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm so thankful that I have him in my life,

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.680
<v Speaker 1>whether it's like we're doing nothing, or we're out with

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of people and we want to have a

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:33.279
<v Speaker 1>dance party in the middle of the dance floor and

0:50:33.360 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 1>it's just us too, like we'll do it, or in

0:50:35.560 --> 0:50:37.719
<v Speaker 1>the middle of a restaurant, whatever it is, Like, I

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:41.360
<v Speaker 1>love that. But I've definitely found a lot of people

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that are in the industry, and a lot of the

0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:47.320
<v Speaker 1>friendships that I have I tend to keep quiet about.

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:49.799
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the friendships that I have, I've

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 1>met them in very, very weird ways, because how am

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I supposed to meet people? You know, I don't go

0:50:56.400 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 1>out super often I don't. I'm not usually around people

0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 1>my own age. Like a lot of my friends that

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I met, they were actually dancers at the Kid's Choice Awards,

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and we just clicked and I started to hang out

0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>with them, and I really like them, and they're really

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>cool people, and they're in an industry that I'm so

0:51:19.360 --> 0:51:23.359
<v Speaker 1>fascinated by, and yeah, they do so much similar things

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 1>to me, but it's also different, and I think that

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:30.760
<v Speaker 1>that's really special. And after meeting them, it was really

0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>refreshing to be around people my own age and also

0:51:35.440 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>just have people that are hardworking and determined and not

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 1>competitive with me at all and just happy to see

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 1>me happy. And I can have fun with whether we're

0:51:46.680 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 1>filming or not. You know. But even like my boyfriend,

0:51:49.520 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>he's in the industry, and you know, we tend to

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>handle things a little bit differently. But sometimes I have

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>to be like, it's not worth it. You know. We

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:00.600
<v Speaker 1>don't have to respond, we don't have to anything, like

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>it's not worth it. I know, you you know me,

0:52:03.920 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 1>whether people are saying things about me or people are

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:10.160
<v Speaker 1>saying things about a relationship. You know, having each other

0:52:11.080 --> 0:52:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to kind of navigate that on our own is really

0:52:15.800 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 1>nice because it's also what two nineteen year olds in

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:24.919
<v Speaker 1>a relationship have their lives together. You know, there's ups

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 1>and downs, like whether I'm working all the time or

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:32.080
<v Speaker 1>he's working all the time, or I'm traveling or whatever.

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 1>It is, like, there's always so much going on that

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:37.239
<v Speaker 1>can so easily put a strain on a relationship. And

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:42.279
<v Speaker 1>also just coming into adulthood with two teenagers that have

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:45.520
<v Speaker 1>no idea what they're doing and just trying their best, like,

0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's been really confusing to navigate, but also

0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>really refreshing to have someone else there that's like just

0:52:55.280 --> 0:52:57.080
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure it out day by day.

0:52:57.880 --> 0:53:00.360
<v Speaker 2>It's almost yeah, it's almost easier in one sense because

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:02.920
<v Speaker 2>you have someone to bounce it off of. Yeah, as

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:03.400
<v Speaker 2>opposed to.

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:06.360
<v Speaker 1>You're like, am I crazy? Are you crazy? Is this? Like?

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Is this okay? You know, so it's it's really nice.

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you think the hardest part about success and fame

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:16.880
<v Speaker 2>is having a relationship in the public eye. Would you

0:53:16.920 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 2>say that that's the hardest part in terms of when

0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it comes to your relationships or that's.

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Not Sometimes I feel like, you know, when two people

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>that are in a relationship have like an off week

0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:35.240
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, there can be the whole. This person didn't

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.239
<v Speaker 1>like their photo, or they haven't posted together, they're broken up,

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:41.320
<v Speaker 1>or this person's starting a rumor. Like even if you

0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:44.880
<v Speaker 1>too are struggling, that's for you to go through and

0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:48.120
<v Speaker 1>handle it however's appropriate whether you guys part ways or

0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:52.160
<v Speaker 1>continue to work through things together. Like no relationship is perfect. Ever,

0:53:52.719 --> 0:53:56.759
<v Speaker 1>you have moments where so much is going on, Like

0:53:57.040 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 1>during Dancing with the Stars, I was dancing seven days

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a week. I was never home. He was like, I

0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>felt like I didn't have a girlfriend, and that was

0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 1>really hard. It was hard on my parents, you know,

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Like it's a lot, and especially for two young teenagers

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to go through, Like we don't know how to do this.

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 1>No one knows how to do this. So we're just

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 1>doing our best and there's ups and downs, but we

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:28.080
<v Speaker 1>work through it. And that's just being a person, you know.

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, And and just the idea of

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.000
<v Speaker 2>it is interesting when you've got two people who have

0:54:36.160 --> 0:54:39.520
<v Speaker 2>crazy lives and have different journeys and have different you know,

0:54:39.640 --> 0:54:43.280
<v Speaker 2>commitments and family commitments and there's just so much going on. Yeah,

0:54:43.320 --> 0:54:45.080
<v Speaker 2>to keep up with it, Well, what have you found

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 2>what has helped you both kind of keep up with

0:54:48.600 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 2>each other's schedules in each other's lives because that's not

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.759
<v Speaker 2>going to change, at least not right now. And so

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:56.480
<v Speaker 2>what has helped, what has worked?

0:54:56.800 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, we've obviously talked about this so much,

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 1>just as a whole was I was just gone for

0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:07.880
<v Speaker 1>almost two weeks and we were on different time zones,

0:55:08.000 --> 0:55:11.839
<v Speaker 1>just trying to text and update each other. But it's

0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 1>figuring out what each other needs. You know, if he

0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.759
<v Speaker 1>wants me to keep him updated, then I'll keep him

0:55:18.840 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 1>updated because that's what he needs. If if I need

0:55:22.600 --> 0:55:25.919
<v Speaker 1>him to tell me what's going on in his week

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:28.479
<v Speaker 1>so I don't feel left out, like that's totally cool,

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:31.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what I need. It's just having that conversation and

0:55:31.480 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>realizing that people's needs change and adapting with that and

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:38.320
<v Speaker 1>not feeling like, well, I don't want to make him upset,

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:41.680
<v Speaker 1>like he's working a lot and I know he's super busy,

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:44.160
<v Speaker 1>like I need a shoulder to lean on. It's also

0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 1>having the conversation like sometimes I'll literally say I'm really

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:50.800
<v Speaker 1>really sensitive right now, like I just need some extra support,

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and then he knows to well, she needs this right now, Okay,

0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Like that's totally cool. That's two people in a relationship

0:55:58.960 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>doing whatever they can to make the other person happy,

0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:06.759
<v Speaker 1>just normal human things and definitely not worrying about what

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:11.320
<v Speaker 1>anyone online has to say. It's so not worth it.

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:13.920
<v Speaker 1>It really isn't because ninety nine percent of these people

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 1>are looking for you to respond. Like even today, I

0:56:17.480 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 1>woke up to some crazy person talking about me and

0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:26.800
<v Speaker 1>like the most wildly disrespectful way is like I've really

0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:29.560
<v Speaker 1>seen a long time. And the thing is, like me

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and this person were at an event together and this

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 1>person introduced themselves. I introduced myself, so we tried to

0:56:34.760 --> 0:56:36.560
<v Speaker 1>be nice. This kid was not nice to me and

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 1>then went and talked very poorly on me. And Lynnon's like, well,

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 1>let me call this kid, And I'm like, it's not

0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that big of a deal, Like, it's not that's what

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.640
<v Speaker 1>he's looking for. Is it taking everything in me not

0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:51.359
<v Speaker 1>to respond or not to text him. Yeah, but I

0:56:51.400 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 1>know if I text him, he's gonna post it, and

0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be a thing, and he's going to

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:58.799
<v Speaker 1>get exactly what he wants me to respond and give

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:02.400
<v Speaker 1>in to whatever's story he wants to portray to the

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:05.280
<v Speaker 1>people that watch him. It's not it's not my problem,

0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Like I know who I am and that's good enough

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:11.200
<v Speaker 1>for me, Like it doesn't matter.

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's so hard to get to that point,

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's so libering when you do, Like it's so

0:57:17.120 --> 0:57:20.360
<v Speaker 2>freeing when you realize that where you're like actually not

0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 2>responding is not getting caught up in someone else's yeah yeah.

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And like then it just gives people an opportunity to well,

0:57:28.520 --> 0:57:30.840
<v Speaker 1>if I say this about her, then she's gonna respond.

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:33.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, I don't have time to respond to

0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 1>every little thing that people have to say about me,

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>And it takes so much. It's so draining to have

0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 1>to see that. And the more you talk about it,

0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 1>the more your fans talk about it, and people in

0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the press talk about it, and it's like for what reason?

0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Because I was angry at this kid who I met once,

0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Like who cares?

0:57:57.360 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's hard when the person you're in a

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.640
<v Speaker 2>relationship with wants to defend you too, And.

0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:07.680
<v Speaker 1>And he's so sweet. He is so quick to defend

0:58:07.680 --> 0:58:09.520
<v Speaker 1>me in every way possible, and I just have to

0:58:09.560 --> 0:58:10.920
<v Speaker 1>be like, it's cool.

0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:11.400
<v Speaker 2>It's good.

0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I tell him that all the time

0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:17.880
<v Speaker 1>because he gets so upset whenever people have something negative

0:58:17.880 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to say about me or his family. And I mean

0:58:21.560 --> 0:58:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I definitely told him, like many many times,

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:29.840
<v Speaker 1>it's cool, It's totally fine. They're gonna say it no

0:58:29.880 --> 0:58:31.960
<v Speaker 1>matter what. And even if you respond and are like,

0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:34.680
<v Speaker 1>well this isn't true because this is this they're not

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:36.720
<v Speaker 1>They're they already read it and they think what they

0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:38.600
<v Speaker 1>think about you. They're not going to change their minds,

0:58:38.920 --> 0:58:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you're arguing.

0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 1>With people that don't care what you have to say.

0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:45.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's already lost. Like, yeah, it's it's a lose

0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:48.840
<v Speaker 2>lose situation. Yeah, so moving on is the best thing

0:58:48.880 --> 0:58:51.120
<v Speaker 2>you can do. Yeah. No, And it's wonderful to be

0:58:51.160 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 2>with someone and have that with someone who you know

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 2>cares about you that deeply. And my wife's like that,

0:58:56.280 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Like my wife gets very defensive about me and like

0:58:59.640 --> 0:59:02.080
<v Speaker 2>can get really activated and she gets really upset for

0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 2>me and whatever maybe, and I I really always appreciate

0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:07.800
<v Speaker 2>that because I can see that she knows who I am.

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of what it goes back to her.

0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:10.840
<v Speaker 2>I always said the same thing to him, like I'm

0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 2>just glad I have someone who knows who I am.

0:59:12.840 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Especially like when someone cares about you like that, to

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<v Speaker 1>see you upset because of something and not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to fix the problem because they just want to see

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<v Speaker 1>you happy. Like I understand how upset that might make you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And I feel bad because sometimes I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I drag him into the drama just because of

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the relationship. But I think knowing that, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have each other and I can tell him like this

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<v Speaker 1>was this actually really hurt my feelings today, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was it was a lot. And I just need some

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<v Speaker 1>comfort and I need you to be by my side,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's good enough for me, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. Definitely, Charlie, what are you excited about right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what's kind of like, you know, you've done so

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<v Speaker 2>many amazing things, and I feel like this journey that

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<v Speaker 2>you're saying with your identity of like getting to know

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<v Speaker 2>yourself better. Yeah, You've done so many things, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>guessing some of them you're like, oh, yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Demilio and Charlie. It's like, what is Charlie like

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<v Speaker 2>really excited about or curious about or passionate about, or

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<v Speaker 2>like what's coming up where you're like, I really want

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<v Speaker 2>to try that out or learn that or whatever whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it may be, like open for.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I think the first thing that I'm most excited

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<v Speaker 1>about is my dogs. I have a puppy. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I sound so lame.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a puppy. I'm not loving it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's cute. It's just like, yeah, you have to open

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<v Speaker 2>up a dogschuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm like in love with her. I am

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<v Speaker 1>a like older dog who's nine. She's literally me as

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<v Speaker 1>a dog, and I'm I'm obsessed with her. She's the

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<v Speaker 1>most adorable dog ever. She's literal human. But then I

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<v Speaker 1>have this puppy that Lena and I adopted from Nashville,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like she was abandoned and she was like

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<v Speaker 1>it was a horrible story and it really like pulled

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<v Speaker 1>at my heart strings and I was like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to take you home now, like I will take

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<v Speaker 1>care of you. I love you. And like watching her

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<v Speaker 1>grow up and being responsible for her, I think has

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<v Speaker 1>been very refreshing to me because my older dog, she's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she's very self sufficient. She's also very lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll be up in the morning and she'll wake

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<v Speaker 1>up two hours later ready to be fed like she

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<v Speaker 1>is not. She has her own schedule and I love

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<v Speaker 1>that about her because that's how I raise her. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a very like laid back dog. I can have all

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<v Speaker 1>the lights on and she's sleeping, like I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>But this puppy, you know, you have to train her.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to It's very specific, and these formative puppy

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<v Speaker 1>years are so important to who this dog becomes. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no bad dogs, there's only bad dog owners. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just like am loving this journey of truly because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got my dog nine years ago. I was ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't actually raising her, and now I'm getting the

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<v Speaker 1>chance to raise a dog, and it's really really exciting

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<v Speaker 1>and special, and seeing the two of them together is

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<v Speaker 1>like my favorite thing ever. I think something else that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for is I have a dance room in

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<v Speaker 1>my garage, So I love just going down there any

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<v Speaker 1>time of the day, whether it's four in the morning

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<v Speaker 1>or one pm, and just like letting go and being

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<v Speaker 1>open with myself and using movement as therapy and also

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little bit of a workout in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like being productive. I love that, and probably experimenting more

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<v Speaker 1>with my style. That's something that I've just recently started

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<v Speaker 1>to get into. I think Landon and my sister had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to do with that, because I love the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they put together outfits. I think that they

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<v Speaker 1>both have really good styles and it comes very natural

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<v Speaker 1>to them, and to me it's a lot harder because

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<v Speaker 1>I always go for what I know instead of stepping

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<v Speaker 1>out of the box. But I'm trying. So that's something

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<v Speaker 1>exciting and it's fun to experiment, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love how personal old as well. Those great

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<v Speaker 2>there are great choices. Yeah. I love how none of

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<v Speaker 2>them were career related and like none of them will

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<v Speaker 2>work related. And that's awesome because I can tell that

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<v Speaker 2>you've really start carving those two things as separate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, work wise, you know, using my voice more online,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, even doing a podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>something very outside of my comfort zone. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>my career has been not talking, so it's been very

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me to get into using my voice and

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out what do I want to say, Especially when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know yourself, how do you answer questions I

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<v Speaker 1>don't You can't say I don't know for everything. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that's been special and I've been trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make more content for my fans and trying to use

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<v Speaker 1>my voice more and like even little things finishing and

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<v Speaker 1>get ready with me, which I film fifty of them

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<v Speaker 1>and I post one of them, like trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>more into it and go back to the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I started social media because I like it and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>finally at a point where I like it again, which

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<v Speaker 1>is really refreshing and nice. It doesn't feel like work.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. And what's been what is that when

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<v Speaker 2>you say you want to use your voice and even

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<v Speaker 2>doing the podcast today, like you coming on today and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being open and trusting me and trusting this

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<v Speaker 2>space and just being vulnerable with the idea of like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, I don't know, I'm trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>who I am, Yeah, and being okay with that, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think, by the way, for a nineteen year old

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<v Speaker 2>is completely normal and wonderful and good, and like, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's amazing that you want to spend this time

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<v Speaker 2>in your life figuring out who you are. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's the best investment you could ever make. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>happy that you're doing it, and I'm hoping that you

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<v Speaker 2>take your whole audience and community on a journey to

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<v Speaker 2>do it for themselves because you're going to save so

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<v Speaker 2>many people from so many stressful twenty to thirty year

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<v Speaker 2>old journeys. Right like literally, like you can either do

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<v Speaker 2>it now or you can do it when you're thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>And if you do it now, it's that you can

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<v Speaker 2>help so many people. What is that kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>when you say using your voice, is that the type

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<v Speaker 2>of journey you want people to go on with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you? Are you still figuring out what that

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<v Speaker 2>journey it is that you want people to go on

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<v Speaker 2>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as of right now, it's literally just talking talking online,

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<v Speaker 1>just actually using my voice. You know, for so long

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<v Speaker 1>it was a song and no words, Like it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>so little bit just talking. I feel like that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that is which is so weird, but it's so outside

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<v Speaker 1>of my comfort zone and I feel so like weird

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, but has honestly been really refreshing for me

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I'm growing up and a part of

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<v Speaker 1>growing up is being confident with what you have to

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<v Speaker 1>say and using your words and just talking with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of purpose. And I'm growing up, but

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<v Speaker 1>also so are all of the people that are watching me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think bringing them on that journey of this

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<v Speaker 1>is literally just what I'm doing. I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's really of any importance. Sometimes sometimes I'm just talking.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what I need to do to move to

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<v Speaker 1>this next step of my life, to hopefully talk about

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<v Speaker 1>something important and talk about what matters to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's this is a very integral step of

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<v Speaker 1>growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's really smart. I genuinely do. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that takes a lot of courage to even say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's I don't think it's like insignificant

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<v Speaker 2>at all. I think it makes a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 2>to me that in order for you to stand for something,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to get to a point where you just

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<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable being open and sharing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so much of the beginning few years of

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<v Speaker 1>this journey, every time I talked, someone had something to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you get canceled every five seconds. Like

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<v Speaker 1>that was what was happening to me for so long

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<v Speaker 1>any time I opened my mouth. So I just stop talking.

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped saying anything that was important to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>stopped doing anything that was outside of the box that

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<v Speaker 1>I was put in where I couldn't go wrong if

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't do anything, you know. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have opinions, I have thoughts. I have things I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have things I don't like. Why can't I just

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<v Speaker 1>say it? Like? Who is stopping me? The people that

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<v Speaker 1>actually care what I have to say, They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>support me even if they disagree. You know, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>I really like this outfit and they don't like, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>They respect my opinion. I respect theirs, That's awesome. The

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<v Speaker 1>people that don't like me, they're not gonna like me

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what. They didn't like me when I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>saying anything. They're not gonna like me now. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm not making my videos for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely. When you say you still want to get

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<v Speaker 2>to know who you are and your identity, what are

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<v Speaker 2>the pots that you're like, I'm still just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>figure this out at this point. I'm like really curious

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<v Speaker 2>about I'm trying to learn about this about myself. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like, what are those parts of yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think a lot of it has to do

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<v Speaker 1>with the way that I present myself. Whether it's how

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<v Speaker 1>do I like my makeup done? How do I like

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<v Speaker 1>to dress? How do I like to look? How do

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<v Speaker 1>I like to show myself to other people? Not just

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on at the moment. How do I

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<v Speaker 1>like to smell?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I like Bourn Dreamer? I know I like that, And

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<v Speaker 1>let's discover for future with Bourne Dreamer. What else do

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<v Speaker 1>I like? You know? Whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>I know?

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<v Speaker 1>I like go a little bit deeper and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something so simple. I've been doing more colors with my nails,

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<v Speaker 1>which is so random and so small. It's your nails.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people get their nails in all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did bright green and I thought about that

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<v Speaker 1>for three weeks before I did it, and like why

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed it. I like the color. I wanted it

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<v Speaker 1>on my nails. It made me happy every time I

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<v Speaker 1>saw them. I was like, I did that. That was

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<v Speaker 1>something different I normally do nude. Let's do something fun

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<v Speaker 1>like that little thing was so much fun for me

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<v Speaker 1>and it brought me so much happiness. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>match this color to this and it's just so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Why am I robbing myself a fun because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to put myself out there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good for you. I honestly like you're literally doing

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<v Speaker 2>all the practical steps that it takes to build your values. Thereah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what it is. All of these little habits.

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<v Speaker 2>For anyone who's listening, all these little habits and these

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<v Speaker 2>little changes that you're making, they turn into values that

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<v Speaker 2>you appreciate about yourself. So a value could be and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not putting a value on you, I'm just throwing

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<v Speaker 2>it out there is for a reflection. But a value

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<v Speaker 2>could be I like freedom, or I like self expression,

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<v Speaker 2>or I like random can be a value or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it may be and like and then those values become

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<v Speaker 2>things you can use in the future for how you

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<v Speaker 2>make decisions. Yeah, now when you make so my values

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<v Speaker 2>has always been to take risks. I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>took risks ever since I was fourteen, eighteen, twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've noticed that pattern in my life. And so

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<v Speaker 2>now when I'm taking a risk, I'm not that scared

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<v Speaker 2>anymore because I've always taken risks my whole life. And

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<v Speaker 2>I love how when I first took a risk, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know what a risk was like. When I

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<v Speaker 2>was fourteen years old or eighteen, I just did it.

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<v Speaker 2>And now when I look back, I'm like, oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a skill I have now. And so it's almost

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<v Speaker 2>like when you're doing all these things, you're just collecting

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<v Speaker 2>lots of different skills and then one day they'll evolve

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<v Speaker 2>into values which will form an identity, and then you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be able to be like, these are the three things

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<v Speaker 2>that I value and that really matter to me. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I love that. I love how simple you've

1:10:43.280 --> 1:10:45.559
<v Speaker 2>made it for yourself, and I love how you've broken

1:10:45.600 --> 1:10:48.280
<v Speaker 2>it down because I think a lot of us try

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<v Speaker 2>to like leap frogs, like this is who I am now,

1:10:51.120 --> 1:10:55.479
<v Speaker 2>and we almost want the performance part before the work part.

1:10:55.560 --> 1:10:58.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, I feel like you're doing the work part. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's great to work, great to see. Thank you, Johnie.

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<v Speaker 2>What if I not asked you about that? You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I really want to share this. So this has been

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<v Speaker 2>on my heart, on my mind, or like something you

1:11:06.760 --> 1:11:08.640
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about it. You're like, this is what

1:11:08.680 --> 1:11:10.439
<v Speaker 2>I want to use my voice for. You haven't asked

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<v Speaker 2>me about it, or it just didn't come up.

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<v Speaker 1>Something for me that I think is very interesting, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very random and has nothing to do with my career,

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<v Speaker 1>my personal life or anything. I love the San Diego

1:11:23.680 --> 1:11:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Safari Park, which is so random, but I've recently found

1:11:27.080 --> 1:11:30.160
<v Speaker 1>I watched this whole video on it, this like very

1:11:30.200 --> 1:11:32.960
<v Speaker 1>specific thing that you have to go through a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of steps to be able to get it for like

1:11:34.720 --> 1:11:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a zoo or aquarium or anything. But it's a certificate

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<v Speaker 1>that shows if it's humane to the animals. And learning

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<v Speaker 1>about that has been really interesting because I love going

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<v Speaker 1>there and I love how free the animals are and

1:11:47.200 --> 1:11:49.120
<v Speaker 1>how it's just like they are in the wild, and

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<v Speaker 1>how they help the animals, and that's definitely something that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get more into, is like figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it is and going to more places like that,

1:11:57.760 --> 1:12:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, not appreciating place is like SeaWorld that

1:12:01.040 --> 1:12:03.360
<v Speaker 1>treat their animals horribly, you know, like little things like

1:12:03.400 --> 1:12:06.000
<v Speaker 1>that that I think is so interesting because I love animals,

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<v Speaker 1>So that was something I need to find the name

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<v Speaker 1>of exactly what that little like thing is, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool and like to get that, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go through a lot of work, and every place is

1:12:16.280 --> 1:12:18.519
<v Speaker 1>constantly trying to outdo each other, so the bar is

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<v Speaker 1>constantly being raised, which I think is so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>How they treat the animals and they have to pass

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<v Speaker 2>a certain number of right right, right, Well, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cool and something random that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Decide, right, I love. Yeah. Yeah. My wife's a big

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<v Speaker 2>fan of visiting animals as much as we can, and

1:12:36.040 --> 1:12:38.320
<v Speaker 2>so she's she's kind of always led that and we've

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<v Speaker 2>gone to some of the randommest places in LA because

1:12:41.600 --> 1:12:44.839
<v Speaker 2>of her. But her relationship with animals is really beautiful

1:12:44.920 --> 1:12:48.519
<v Speaker 2>and she can like you know, start a relationship with yah. Yeah,

1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:50.800
<v Speaker 2>and it's really special to watch. And it's really interesting

1:12:50.840 --> 1:12:53.439
<v Speaker 2>because we went to a couple last year and she'd

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<v Speaker 2>always come back really like even more calm and even

1:12:56.680 --> 1:12:59.519
<v Speaker 2>more just still and and I And it was really

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful to see just how when you're connected to nature

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<v Speaker 2>and we are nature and you know we're a part

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<v Speaker 2>of that, but now we feel so disconnected from it. Yeah,

1:13:08.439 --> 1:13:11.519
<v Speaker 2>but animals are such a great way of reconnecting. What

1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:16.280
<v Speaker 2>do you find I guess fulfilling or meaningful about being?

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously your dogs, but with these animals, like what is

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<v Speaker 2>it about it for you specifically that you appreciate about it?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's just so peaceful and to learn so

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<v Speaker 1>much Like when you go to these places, I will

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<v Speaker 1>come back only talking about animal facts for like a

1:13:32.640 --> 1:13:36.519
<v Speaker 1>month and I love it. And sometimes people are like,

1:13:37.479 --> 1:13:39.280
<v Speaker 1>that's like, where did you even come.

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<v Speaker 2>Up with that?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's so cool and so interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see all these animals and with each other and how

1:13:47.320 --> 1:13:50.720
<v Speaker 1>they respond to things. And I love places where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're out and you see them, that's great. If not,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't feel like being out, that's just how it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's so interesting. And I literally I've

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<v Speaker 1>been to the San Diego Safari twice and the first

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<v Speaker 1>time talked about animal facts for like two months. The

1:14:07.760 --> 1:14:11.400
<v Speaker 1>second time I leading up to going, that was all

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<v Speaker 1>I could talk about, and I brought. I got so

1:14:14.040 --> 1:14:16.000
<v Speaker 1>many other people excited about because I like, but you

1:14:16.040 --> 1:14:20.439
<v Speaker 1>don't understand how cool it is, Like you are twenty

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<v Speaker 1>feet away from a cheetah with like there's no big

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<v Speaker 1>fence up, you know, Like it's crazy just to see

1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:33.640
<v Speaker 1>these animals just living, not worried about anything that is

1:14:33.720 --> 1:14:36.840
<v Speaker 1>so materialistic or anything like that. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just find so much joy in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, definitely. Have you been to anywhere in Africa?

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't, and I really want to go. I've like,

1:14:44.000 --> 1:14:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I've seen so many videos, and so many of my

1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:48.759
<v Speaker 1>friends have gone, and it just seems so cool.

1:14:48.880 --> 1:14:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've talked about this before in the podcast, but

1:14:51.640 --> 1:14:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying it because it's natural in our conversation. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to Rwanda last year, Wow, and Rwanda of Revere's Gorillaz.

1:14:58.320 --> 1:15:00.719
<v Speaker 2>So literally, every time there's a new gorilla in Rwanda

1:15:00.840 --> 1:15:03.040
<v Speaker 2>that the community comes together and they name it and

1:15:03.080 --> 1:15:05.759
<v Speaker 2>they have this whole ceremony for it. And so they've

1:15:05.760 --> 1:15:09.760
<v Speaker 2>had these gorilla sanctuaries for years and so same as

1:15:09.760 --> 1:15:12.679
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying, there's no fences or walls or whatever.

1:15:12.760 --> 1:15:15.920
<v Speaker 2>It's basically the mountains and you take treks into the

1:15:15.920 --> 1:15:19.160
<v Speaker 2>mountains and you discover gorilla and their natural habitat, and

1:15:19.200 --> 1:15:22.720
<v Speaker 2>there's families. So we followed. I went three days, and

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<v Speaker 2>one of the days we discovered a family that had

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<v Speaker 2>like twenty gorillas in it, and then we discovered another

1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:28.320
<v Speaker 2>one and you get to see the babies and the

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<v Speaker 2>adduts and it was easily one of my favorite things

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<v Speaker 2>I've done in my entire life. And it was just

1:15:35.840 --> 1:15:39.080
<v Speaker 2>the most magical experience because you're truly in nature. The

1:15:39.160 --> 1:15:41.519
<v Speaker 2>animals are in their habitat, so you're going into their

1:15:41.600 --> 1:15:46.320
<v Speaker 2>home and they're gonna They're so respectful and let you

1:15:46.360 --> 1:15:48.639
<v Speaker 2>do your thing, and at the same time you get

1:15:48.680 --> 1:15:52.120
<v Speaker 2>to learn about them in this really intimate way. It

1:15:52.200 --> 1:15:54.280
<v Speaker 2>was beautiful to just see how they took care of

1:15:54.280 --> 1:15:56.559
<v Speaker 2>the kids, how the kids played around, how they were

1:15:56.600 --> 1:15:59.880
<v Speaker 2>defensive if we got too close, like just everything about them.

1:15:59.880 --> 1:16:02.439
<v Speaker 2>And the guides that we had said that you can

1:16:02.479 --> 1:16:04.400
<v Speaker 2>also go and walk, So this was walking with gorillas,

1:16:04.400 --> 1:16:06.200
<v Speaker 2>but they said you could go walk with elephants too,

1:16:06.800 --> 1:16:08.360
<v Speaker 2>and me and my wife have been talking about doing that.

1:16:08.360 --> 1:16:10.360
<v Speaker 2>We're like, I'd love to go walk with elephants, Like

1:16:10.400 --> 1:16:12.519
<v Speaker 2>how cool would that be? And yeah, there's all these

1:16:12.520 --> 1:16:15.439
<v Speaker 2>incredible experiences out there, and you know, whether it's a

1:16:15.439 --> 1:16:18.040
<v Speaker 2>local safari or whether it's being able to go there,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and have this experience. I definitely feel and my

1:16:22.360 --> 1:16:24.040
<v Speaker 2>other team, someone of my team's been talking about going

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<v Speaker 2>to see the Great Migration, which is what so the

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<v Speaker 2>easy version of it. I'm giving a very bad explanation,

1:16:29.600 --> 1:16:31.840
<v Speaker 2>but just to make it relatable for everyone, It's basically

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<v Speaker 2>what happens in the Lion King when all the wilderbeast

1:16:34.760 --> 1:16:37.880
<v Speaker 2>like running across like, so that's the Great Migration. Where

1:16:37.880 --> 1:16:42.120
<v Speaker 2>they're like stampeding across the stampede where the fast unfortunately dies.

1:16:42.240 --> 1:16:45.000
<v Speaker 2>Like that moment is what the great migration is, and

1:16:45.040 --> 1:16:48.800
<v Speaker 2>it happens every single Year's so yeah, anyway, I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>carried away too.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I mean it's so easy to Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's magical to think that these things exist

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<v Speaker 2>and you can go and witness them or even whilst

1:16:57.880 --> 1:16:59.960
<v Speaker 2>they're online or on the documentary whatever. You know.

1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, at the San Diego Safari, they're literally like with

1:17:04.000 --> 1:17:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the Southern hight rhinos and the Northern hight rhinos, it's

1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:09.080
<v Speaker 1>like one of them is going extinct and they're literally

1:17:09.120 --> 1:17:11.920
<v Speaker 1>figuring out through stem cells, like how to bring it back.

1:17:11.960 --> 1:17:16.840
<v Speaker 1>It's so so wild and so interesting and hearing these

1:17:16.840 --> 1:17:20.479
<v Speaker 1>people talk about it and all of the steps they're

1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:26.000
<v Speaker 1>going through with scientists and zoologists and literally everyone to help,

1:17:26.200 --> 1:17:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, bring back this species of rhinos. It's like,

1:17:29.560 --> 1:17:32.640
<v Speaker 1>this is so cool and has nothing to do with

1:17:32.760 --> 1:17:35.680
<v Speaker 1>anything that I do in my normal, everyday life. But

1:17:36.160 --> 1:17:40.000
<v Speaker 1>how interesting is that to just hear and see and

1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:44.680
<v Speaker 1>like what that's crazy? But I don't know, I just

1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:46.240
<v Speaker 1>think that that's so cool.

1:17:46.320 --> 1:17:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love it, and I hope you

1:17:48.160 --> 1:17:50.720
<v Speaker 2>just keep pursuing and following all of these things that

1:17:50.800 --> 1:17:53.439
<v Speaker 2>using a cool and you know, you're it's not that

1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:55.439
<v Speaker 2>you don't know yourself. I wouldn't say that you don't

1:17:55.479 --> 1:17:57.320
<v Speaker 2>know who you are. I just say that you're you're

1:17:57.520 --> 1:18:00.200
<v Speaker 2>firmly on that path. Yeah, you're on that path of

1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:02.960
<v Speaker 2>self discovery, and you're doing it a perfect time in

1:18:03.000 --> 1:18:06.280
<v Speaker 2>your life, and you're taking every one of the right steps.

1:18:06.360 --> 1:18:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, it's not that you don't know who

1:18:07.840 --> 1:18:11.360
<v Speaker 2>you are or you're confused, You're just you're just taking

1:18:11.360 --> 1:18:13.680
<v Speaker 2>those steps and all of it's going to become more

1:18:13.680 --> 1:18:17.320
<v Speaker 2>and more clear as you continue to take more steps. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you for sharing the this part of the journey

1:18:20.120 --> 1:18:23.120
<v Speaker 2>with me, because I'm hoping that in a few years

1:18:23.160 --> 1:18:25.880
<v Speaker 2>time you come out and then you'll be like Jay,

1:18:25.920 --> 1:18:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I figured this out and.

1:18:27.040 --> 1:18:29.840
<v Speaker 1>These are all of my favorite things that I've decided.

1:18:30.200 --> 1:18:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I hope and I hope they'll change again.

1:18:32.920 --> 1:18:35.760
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I but I'm glad that you came

1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:38.080
<v Speaker 2>and shared this part because this is the hardest part

1:18:38.120 --> 1:18:41.880
<v Speaker 2>to share when you're not sure and you're figuring it out.

1:18:41.920 --> 1:18:44.679
<v Speaker 2>And I'm glad that we had the opportunity to capture

1:18:44.720 --> 1:18:49.320
<v Speaker 2>that today. Yeah, and I'm really really appreciate you sharing

1:18:49.360 --> 1:18:51.439
<v Speaker 2>that with people because it is the hardest part to

1:18:51.439 --> 1:18:53.360
<v Speaker 2>share when you're like, I don't know.

1:18:53.479 --> 1:18:56.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm not quite there, but this is where I am now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Charlie, thank you so much. No, thank you coming

1:19:00.280 --> 1:19:02.680
<v Speaker 2>on the show today. And we end every episode with

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<v Speaker 2>a final five, and these I'm going to totally ruin

1:19:05.800 --> 1:19:08.360
<v Speaker 2>these because I enjoy doing that. But you're meant to

1:19:08.400 --> 1:19:11.519
<v Speaker 2>answer them in one word to one sentence maximum, but

1:19:12.240 --> 1:19:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I will probably ask you to expand because they always

1:19:15.000 --> 1:19:17.880
<v Speaker 2>lead to more thoughtful answers. So all right, Charlie, these

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<v Speaker 2>are your final five. The first question is what is

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<v Speaker 2>the best advice you've ever heard, or received or even

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<v Speaker 2>given to someone.

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<v Speaker 1>This is probably the only thing that keeps me sane,

1:19:28.040 --> 1:19:31.679
<v Speaker 1>whether it's good or bad. Everything happens for a reason.

1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:33.320
<v Speaker 1>You can't control.

1:19:32.880 --> 1:19:35.600
<v Speaker 2>It, and that's something you hold on to it.

1:19:35.640 --> 1:19:38.479
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it makes me feel like I'm not going crazy.

1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:40.880
<v Speaker 2>When have you used that the most you can explain?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when I feel like I have no idea

1:19:45.439 --> 1:19:47.760
<v Speaker 1>what to do next, where I feel like everything's coming

1:19:47.840 --> 1:19:51.599
<v Speaker 1>crashing down, this is important because it's helping me get

1:19:51.640 --> 1:19:53.479
<v Speaker 1>to the next step of my life. And as much

1:19:53.520 --> 1:19:57.160
<v Speaker 1>as this sucks right now, I need it and some

1:19:57.240 --> 1:20:00.320
<v Speaker 1>of the worst parts where I feel like I'm at

1:20:00.360 --> 1:20:03.439
<v Speaker 1>an all time low, that helped me get to that

1:20:03.520 --> 1:20:06.000
<v Speaker 1>next step. So next time I'm feeling like that, I

1:20:06.040 --> 1:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>know how to. I know, first I can get myself

1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:12.120
<v Speaker 1>out of it, and second that you know, maybe it's

1:20:12.120 --> 1:20:14.599
<v Speaker 1>not that big of a deal and a year I'm

1:20:14.680 --> 1:20:15.760
<v Speaker 1>not even going to remember it.

1:20:16.600 --> 1:20:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely love that, all right. Second question, what's the worst

1:20:20.040 --> 1:20:22.040
<v Speaker 2>advice you've ever heard or received?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably that I need to say yes to everything because

1:20:27.800 --> 1:20:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't know when this is going to end. Sometimes

1:20:30.920 --> 1:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>you just need to say no and take that time

1:20:32.800 --> 1:20:33.480
<v Speaker 1>for yourself.

1:20:33.920 --> 1:20:36.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad you brought that up. So many young

1:20:36.640 --> 1:20:37.400
<v Speaker 2>creators here.

1:20:37.320 --> 1:20:43.080
<v Speaker 1>That overwhelm themselves, and it's you're doing a disservice to yourself.

1:20:43.400 --> 1:20:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Give yourself time to figure out who you are.

1:20:47.640 --> 1:20:49.680
<v Speaker 2>And I think you're so right. Like I've said this

1:20:49.720 --> 1:20:55.200
<v Speaker 2>to a lot of people too, that it will only

1:20:55.320 --> 1:20:57.880
<v Speaker 2>end when you want it to, Like nothing can end

1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:01.559
<v Speaker 2>if you're if you're alive and you're creating and your building,

1:21:01.640 --> 1:21:04.280
<v Speaker 2>like things just don't end and I think we use

1:21:04.360 --> 1:21:07.519
<v Speaker 2>the end as a scarcity tactic or a fear tactic

1:21:07.800 --> 1:21:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to get more out of someone or to get the

1:21:10.400 --> 1:21:13.519
<v Speaker 2>most out of it right now, not realizing that someone

1:21:13.520 --> 1:21:15.320
<v Speaker 2>could take a break for three years if that's what

1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:17.720
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to do, and come back even stronger and

1:21:17.720 --> 1:21:20.000
<v Speaker 2>bigger and better and whatever. Yeah. And I just don't

1:21:20.040 --> 1:21:23.800
<v Speaker 2>think we allow people to have that space. And I

1:21:23.800 --> 1:21:26.439
<v Speaker 2>think it's really unhealthy for anyone to think that if

1:21:26.479 --> 1:21:28.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm not don't do this, I'm going to be irrelevant

1:21:28.160 --> 1:21:30.840
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. It's like, Actually, if you're an artist, you

1:21:30.840 --> 1:21:33.320
<v Speaker 2>could take time out and come back in years from

1:21:33.360 --> 1:21:34.680
<v Speaker 2>now and create a masterpiece.

1:21:35.120 --> 1:21:39.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean the first like three years of my career,

1:21:39.760 --> 1:21:42.200
<v Speaker 1>all anyone was saying was it could be over like that,

1:21:42.400 --> 1:21:44.840
<v Speaker 1>no one's going to care about you. And I spent

1:21:45.000 --> 1:21:47.519
<v Speaker 1>so much time. When is it going to end? Everyone

1:21:47.600 --> 1:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>keeps telling me it's going to end, Like do I

1:21:50.400 --> 1:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>want it to end? Maybe I want it to end.

1:21:51.840 --> 1:21:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I want to break and it just to all

1:21:53.520 --> 1:21:56.360
<v Speaker 1>be over and go back to my normal life. I've

1:21:56.400 --> 1:22:00.679
<v Speaker 1>taken breaks, i've taken step backs, I've done everything that

1:22:01.040 --> 1:22:03.120
<v Speaker 1>was coming to me at the moment, and it's like

1:22:04.360 --> 1:22:08.040
<v Speaker 1>letting whether the people that are watching you are gonna

1:22:08.040 --> 1:22:11.280
<v Speaker 1>stay or leave dictate every move you make. Those people

1:22:11.320 --> 1:22:14.240
<v Speaker 1>that really care about you, they're not just gonna leave

1:22:14.280 --> 1:22:16.800
<v Speaker 1>if you stop posting for a month or a week

1:22:16.880 --> 1:22:22.880
<v Speaker 1>or however long. Like put your own mental state first.

1:22:23.160 --> 1:22:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because if you don't put your mental state first,

1:22:26.439 --> 1:22:27.840
<v Speaker 2>then it's definitely gonna go away.

1:22:27.920 --> 1:22:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna get burnt out, and then no one's

1:22:29.920 --> 1:22:30.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna care.

1:22:30.360 --> 1:22:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Because you don't care exactly, or you're not gonna be

1:22:32.720 --> 1:22:34.880
<v Speaker 2>able to put anything like you know, And if you

1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:37.040
<v Speaker 2>look at that perspective, it's like, yeah, you just keep

1:22:37.080 --> 1:22:39.720
<v Speaker 2>pushing and pushing and pushing. Yeah, you lose yourself and

1:22:39.720 --> 1:22:41.960
<v Speaker 2>then you have nothing to share and then you've definitely,

1:22:42.400 --> 1:22:44.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, lost out. No, really really great answer. I

1:22:44.720 --> 1:22:49.320
<v Speaker 2>love that question. Number three, What is the craziest room

1:22:49.360 --> 1:22:52.160
<v Speaker 2>as you've heard about yourself? One that made you laugh

1:22:52.400 --> 1:22:53.559
<v Speaker 2>and one that made you cry.

1:22:53.960 --> 1:23:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Ones that make me laugh are probably the ones where

1:23:00.680 --> 1:23:06.559
<v Speaker 1>I'll like, I'll seem super I'll see like blind items

1:23:06.560 --> 1:23:11.040
<v Speaker 1>about myself and it's like she did this crazy thing

1:23:11.120 --> 1:23:14.160
<v Speaker 1>at this party and it was wild and and I

1:23:14.200 --> 1:23:16.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, didn't even go to a party that's so

1:23:16.960 --> 1:23:20.439
<v Speaker 1>like like where did you guys? I was here and there.

1:23:21.400 --> 1:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>So those ones always make me laugh and they're like

1:23:23.520 --> 1:23:27.920
<v Speaker 1>so not true and be like, Okay, it's crazy.

1:23:28.120 --> 1:23:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny you said about not being at the party. Like,

1:23:31.479 --> 1:23:36.160
<v Speaker 2>So I officiated Ben and Jen's wedding last year, and

1:23:36.280 --> 1:23:39.519
<v Speaker 2>there was a guest list that was printed, and the

1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:43.080
<v Speaker 2>guest list just had everyone's name on and everyone was

1:23:43.200 --> 1:23:45.160
<v Speaker 2>like asking me like, oh, did you see this person?

1:23:45.200 --> 1:23:47.360
<v Speaker 2>Do you see this one? I was like, they weren't there. Yeah,

1:23:47.400 --> 1:23:50.600
<v Speaker 2>it was a really private wedding. Yeah, but it's like

1:23:50.760 --> 1:23:52.840
<v Speaker 2>everyone assumes that all these people were there now that

1:23:52.880 --> 1:23:55.439
<v Speaker 2>all these magazines had printed it. Everyone assumes that it

1:23:55.479 --> 1:23:58.000
<v Speaker 2>was just this big celebrity wedding. It's like what it

1:23:58.040 --> 1:24:01.240
<v Speaker 2>wasn't it was just really friends and family. It just

1:24:01.280 --> 1:24:02.519
<v Speaker 2>makes you laugh like, yeah.

1:24:02.680 --> 1:24:04.560
<v Speaker 1>You guys pulled this out of nowhere.

1:24:04.320 --> 1:24:06.640
<v Speaker 2>Nowhere, Like it was just crazy to me. I was like,

1:24:06.680 --> 1:24:08.640
<v Speaker 2>how do you make this up? Like you know? And

1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:12.840
<v Speaker 2>so there was no official guest list printed externally. Yeah

1:24:13.040 --> 1:24:15.080
<v Speaker 2>all right? Uh yeah. And then one that kind of

1:24:15.080 --> 1:24:16.439
<v Speaker 2>like got to you, or if there was one that

1:24:16.520 --> 1:24:18.519
<v Speaker 2>like made you more emotional, well, things that make you

1:24:18.520 --> 1:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>more emotional generally.

1:24:20.160 --> 1:24:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Things that make me more emotional are definitely ones that

1:24:24.720 --> 1:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>try to display my character in a way where you know,

1:24:30.200 --> 1:24:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I I don't want to defend everything that I do.

1:24:33.560 --> 1:24:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to defend every rumor that comes out

1:24:35.960 --> 1:24:40.080
<v Speaker 1>about me. But it's like to think that people think

1:24:40.120 --> 1:24:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm capable of doing these things that you know are

1:24:44.240 --> 1:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes so horrible or you know there, especially when I

1:24:50.040 --> 1:24:54.880
<v Speaker 1>was like sixteen, sixteen was really hard for me, and

1:24:55.560 --> 1:24:59.679
<v Speaker 1>I would hear these grown adults every single day, Charlie

1:24:59.720 --> 1:25:03.120
<v Speaker 1>did Charlie did that, Charlie did this. I literally it

1:25:03.160 --> 1:25:05.680
<v Speaker 1>was actually right when I hit one hundred million. I

1:25:05.680 --> 1:25:09.400
<v Speaker 1>think I was at the lowest mental state possible, and

1:25:09.479 --> 1:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I looked so happy online, and it got to the

1:25:14.160 --> 1:25:17.120
<v Speaker 1>point where I was I was like, I'm not doing

1:25:17.160 --> 1:25:22.040
<v Speaker 1>this anymore, Like I physically cannot do this. Like it

1:25:22.080 --> 1:25:23.720
<v Speaker 1>got really dark to where I was like, I don't

1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:27.479
<v Speaker 1>even want to be here anymore. And I think back

1:25:27.520 --> 1:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>to those times and the grown adults that put sixteen

1:25:31.160 --> 1:25:35.680
<v Speaker 1>year old me in that mindset, and I'm just like, like,

1:25:35.760 --> 1:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you guys have kids now, like you guys are are grown,

1:25:41.439 --> 1:25:44.760
<v Speaker 1>And first of all, never gotten an apology through a

1:25:44.800 --> 1:25:49.439
<v Speaker 1>direct message, never got an apology or anything besides if

1:25:49.439 --> 1:25:53.519
<v Speaker 1>it was for other people or that they want something

1:25:53.560 --> 1:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>from me, And I just like I wish that they

1:25:57.840 --> 1:26:01.719
<v Speaker 1>could see what they did to me and how truly

1:26:01.840 --> 1:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>horrible they treated me, and like what if that was

1:26:05.840 --> 1:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>your kid? What if that was you? How would you feel?

1:26:10.120 --> 1:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>And like, I'm so proud of myself for getting myself

1:26:14.280 --> 1:26:18.519
<v Speaker 1>through that, because that really, like depending on how I

1:26:18.560 --> 1:26:21.719
<v Speaker 1>responded to that, could have changed the trajectory of my life,

1:26:21.720 --> 1:26:26.320
<v Speaker 1>whether I started to cope in unhealthy ways or or

1:26:26.960 --> 1:26:31.840
<v Speaker 1>harmed myself or did something that you know, would make

1:26:31.920 --> 1:26:36.479
<v Speaker 1>these people feel bad. Like I'm just very glad that

1:26:36.520 --> 1:26:39.240
<v Speaker 1>I have the people around me and also got to

1:26:39.280 --> 1:26:41.559
<v Speaker 1>give some credit to myself was able to get out

1:26:41.600 --> 1:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>of that.

1:26:43.000 --> 1:26:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't I mean even just hearing you talk about it,

1:26:45.840 --> 1:26:49.120
<v Speaker 2>like it feels so hard and heavy, and like I

1:26:49.160 --> 1:26:51.200
<v Speaker 2>can feel how intense it could have been, Like what

1:26:51.360 --> 1:26:53.559
<v Speaker 2>got you through that? Like what was it that? Because

1:26:53.600 --> 1:26:55.360
<v Speaker 2>at sixteen, I mean, you don't have a lot to

1:26:55.400 --> 1:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>pull on, Like what gets you through all of that?

1:26:58.520 --> 1:27:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Especially being around you know now your family's more used

1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:03.400
<v Speaker 2>to it, so everyone has a bit more. Yeah, it

1:27:03.400 --> 1:27:05.120
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make it easier. Yeah, I'm not saying it makes

1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:07.840
<v Speaker 2>it easier, but people are more aware of it, Yeah

1:27:07.880 --> 1:27:10.320
<v Speaker 2>for sure. But at that time, it's like right at

1:27:10.360 --> 1:27:14.799
<v Speaker 2>the beginning, you know, it.

1:27:14.680 --> 1:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Was really hard for a long time, and especially at

1:27:18.880 --> 1:27:21.599
<v Speaker 1>that point, I showed myself in a very specific light

1:27:22.240 --> 1:27:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and didn't want to let anyone know what was getting

1:27:27.120 --> 1:27:29.439
<v Speaker 1>to me. And then I would go and cry on

1:27:29.600 --> 1:27:34.080
<v Speaker 1>live And I think back to that, and I think

1:27:34.120 --> 1:27:36.280
<v Speaker 1>it was the people that I had around me, Like

1:27:36.640 --> 1:27:38.679
<v Speaker 1>it was getting to the point where like people were

1:27:38.680 --> 1:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>coming to my house to check on me, like it

1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:44.200
<v Speaker 1>was bad, and like, I don't know if these people

1:27:44.240 --> 1:27:46.479
<v Speaker 1>that did this, like I think they know who they are,

1:27:46.520 --> 1:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>but are ever going to see this? Like, first of all,

1:27:49.479 --> 1:27:52.479
<v Speaker 1>I think I deserve an apology. Second of all, not

1:27:52.560 --> 1:27:54.559
<v Speaker 1>that I need one because I'm content with how it

1:27:54.960 --> 1:27:59.360
<v Speaker 1>happened whatever, But the fact that there's no accountability for

1:27:59.439 --> 1:28:02.320
<v Speaker 1>those people, but there was so much accountability for a

1:28:02.400 --> 1:28:06.280
<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old I think is so wild and there's

1:28:06.320 --> 1:28:09.400
<v Speaker 1>so like, honestly, the hardest stuff to deal with was

1:28:09.439 --> 1:28:13.439
<v Speaker 1>the people that were grown adults that were like just

1:28:13.640 --> 1:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>ripping on me every second of every day, like twenty

1:28:18.040 --> 1:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>videos like what I now look back and I'm so

1:28:21.920 --> 1:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>disgusted by the fact that these people like thought that

1:28:24.760 --> 1:28:28.680
<v Speaker 1>that was okay. It's so wild, and I'm just I'm

1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:32.519
<v Speaker 1>very thankful that I had my friends and my family

1:28:32.800 --> 1:28:38.599
<v Speaker 1>and enough in myself to want to get through it

1:28:38.840 --> 1:28:41.439
<v Speaker 1>and come out the other side and show these people

1:28:41.479 --> 1:28:46.519
<v Speaker 1>that they can't ruin me. And I have more to

1:28:46.560 --> 1:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>show people than what I've done so far.

1:28:51.080 --> 1:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>That's so powerful and it's so no, it really is.

1:28:53.760 --> 1:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>It's so powerful to hear that, and it's and it

1:28:56.560 --> 1:29:00.840
<v Speaker 2>breaks my heart hearing it too, because I totally get

1:29:00.880 --> 1:29:02.519
<v Speaker 2>what you're saying in terms of just like when you

1:29:02.600 --> 1:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>have kids. We live in a world that wants to

1:29:05.200 --> 1:29:08.439
<v Speaker 2>prioritize mental health, but then when we take people apart,

1:29:08.920 --> 1:29:11.600
<v Speaker 2>whether they made a mistake or not, yeah, we're not

1:29:11.840 --> 1:29:14.519
<v Speaker 2>mindful of their mental health at all. Yeah, And it's

1:29:14.560 --> 1:29:17.080
<v Speaker 2>almost like if someone's made a mistake or maybe not

1:29:17.120 --> 1:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>even made a mistake, it's almost like, well, now we

1:29:19.920 --> 1:29:22.599
<v Speaker 2>don't have to treat them as if they have mental health,

1:29:22.760 --> 1:29:23.519
<v Speaker 2>yeah at all.

1:29:23.880 --> 1:29:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Or it's like people loved me because I wasn't perfect

1:29:26.840 --> 1:29:29.839
<v Speaker 1>and I was authentic, but then any time I would

1:29:30.080 --> 1:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>mix up my words or make a mistake or do

1:29:33.280 --> 1:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>anything outside of what was okay for these people, it

1:29:37.360 --> 1:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, well I hate her and everyone should

1:29:40.240 --> 1:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>hate her and she's a horrible person because of this.

1:29:42.000 --> 1:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, but what did I do? Like

1:29:45.040 --> 1:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>it was so hard to come to terms of the

1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>fact that so many people hated me and I was

1:29:50.880 --> 1:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>just doing my best. I was like, but I don't

1:29:55.920 --> 1:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>get it, Like all I do is try to please

1:29:58.320 --> 1:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>everyone around me, and they're not, like how do I

1:30:03.120 --> 1:30:06.960
<v Speaker 1>do this? I'm never gonna win, And you know that's

1:30:07.000 --> 1:30:10.439
<v Speaker 1>really hard. Like I give myself so much credit for

1:30:10.560 --> 1:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>how I handled this stuff the best way I knew

1:30:14.439 --> 1:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>how like so wild.

1:30:18.280 --> 1:30:20.040
<v Speaker 2>If you ever doubt how tough you are, you just

1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:22.559
<v Speaker 2>got to remember sixteen years oh Charlie, because she was

1:30:22.600 --> 1:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>a beast. She so tough. Like that is really really intense.

1:30:27.400 --> 1:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>It was really really intense. How have you dealt with

1:30:30.640 --> 1:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>that feeling of like trying to keep everyone else? I

1:30:32.720 --> 1:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>know you've talked about it before, the idea of like

1:30:34.400 --> 1:30:36.160
<v Speaker 2>trying to keep everyone else afloat and you want to

1:30:36.240 --> 1:30:39.479
<v Speaker 2>kind of let go of that pressure. Do you feel

1:30:39.479 --> 1:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>like you've let go of it or do you feel

1:30:40.880 --> 1:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>like you're letting go of it?

1:30:42.400 --> 1:30:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I am in certain aspects, but also leaning

1:30:45.439 --> 1:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>into it a little, you know, like maybe not what

1:30:48.880 --> 1:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>the internet wants, but what does my family want? What

1:30:51.600 --> 1:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>do my friends want? What does my boyfriend want? You know,

1:30:54.200 --> 1:30:58.559
<v Speaker 1>like those people, what do my true fans want? What

1:30:58.600 --> 1:31:00.360
<v Speaker 1>do they want me to put out that and make

1:31:00.560 --> 1:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>them happy? Because I'm doing it for these people, And

1:31:05.160 --> 1:31:07.719
<v Speaker 1>maybe if I'm feeling a little bit burnt out right now,

1:31:08.120 --> 1:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I really think back to, well, this is the reason

1:31:11.000 --> 1:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that I started doing it, you know, but also understanding

1:31:17.240 --> 1:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that I have to listen to myself and what I need. Yeah,

1:31:21.400 --> 1:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>figuring out that balance, which I don't think i'll ever

1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:27.479
<v Speaker 1>truly get the hang of because it's always changing, but

1:31:27.560 --> 1:31:28.760
<v Speaker 1>at least acknowledging it.

1:31:30.200 --> 1:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>All right. Question four and five. Last two questions. What's

1:31:34.000 --> 1:31:35.960
<v Speaker 2>something new that you're trying to learn this year or

1:31:36.040 --> 1:31:38.919
<v Speaker 2>something that a skill that you're trying to develop.

1:31:39.320 --> 1:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to get better at packing and like traveling. Yeah,

1:31:44.960 --> 1:31:48.679
<v Speaker 1>and it's such a stressor for me. Literally every single

1:31:48.760 --> 1:31:51.200
<v Speaker 1>time before I leave for a trip, I will have

1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:57.959
<v Speaker 1>a little mental breakdown, full like tears everything. It's a

1:31:58.040 --> 1:32:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that's another control thing and a very obsessive, compulsive thing

1:32:04.479 --> 1:32:06.439
<v Speaker 1>that I do because I like to have my stuff

1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>around me. I like to have my things. I like

1:32:08.439 --> 1:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>to have everything that I could possibly need. Like even

1:32:12.200 --> 1:32:14.839
<v Speaker 1>in my purse, I have everything that I could possibly

1:32:14.880 --> 1:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>need for if I go on a three day vacation, like,

1:32:18.640 --> 1:32:20.759
<v Speaker 1>it just causes me so much stress that I would

1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>like to be able to take a overnight trip and

1:32:25.160 --> 1:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>just like pack and go without worrying so much. Like

1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>that would be the dream.

1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great I think that's a great scale

1:32:32.200 --> 1:32:34.720
<v Speaker 2>that I wish everyone wants to add. Right, Definitely, there

1:32:34.720 --> 1:32:37.080
<v Speaker 2>are great package and they are a bad package. Yeah,

1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:39.360
<v Speaker 2>and I'm a bad packer for sure, And I get that.

1:32:39.680 --> 1:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Do what my wife does. My wife just takes six suitcases,

1:32:42.200 --> 1:32:42.519
<v Speaker 2>she says.

1:32:42.840 --> 1:32:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Literally, my sister, she will go places pack like an

1:32:46.640 --> 1:32:50.760
<v Speaker 1>hour before she's like only brought one shoe. Yeah, how

1:32:51.000 --> 1:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>how do you do this? This is insane?

1:32:53.920 --> 1:32:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's amazing. I love it all right, great, Charlie.

1:32:57.439 --> 1:32:59.679
<v Speaker 2>Final question, It is the final question. If you could,

1:32:59.720 --> 1:33:01.639
<v Speaker 2>and you take your time with this, if you could

1:33:01.640 --> 1:33:04.800
<v Speaker 2>create one rule or one law that everyone in the

1:33:04.800 --> 1:33:06.799
<v Speaker 2>world had to follow, what would it be.

1:33:07.960 --> 1:33:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Lead with empathy. Don't be so hard on every single thing,

1:33:14.600 --> 1:33:19.679
<v Speaker 1>every situation, everything, no matter what. Like you never ever

1:33:19.840 --> 1:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>know what someone's truly going through. Even you can ask

1:33:24.880 --> 1:33:26.479
<v Speaker 1>me what's wrong, and I could tell you one thing,

1:33:26.520 --> 1:33:28.959
<v Speaker 1>and maybe deep down it's something else that I'm embarrassed

1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>to tell you about. Like you just never know the

1:33:32.439 --> 1:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>struggle that someone's dealing with when they're by themselves. So

1:33:36.120 --> 1:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>just be a little more empathetic. I feel like COVID really,

1:33:40.439 --> 1:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, caused people to react fast. Just take a

1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>step back, you know, hear people out. Just calm down,

1:33:50.560 --> 1:33:51.519
<v Speaker 1>Calm down a little bit.

1:33:51.720 --> 1:33:54.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so needed for ourselves and others. And it's

1:33:54.439 --> 1:33:57.240
<v Speaker 2>amazing how many of us we will know we need

1:33:57.240 --> 1:34:02.120
<v Speaker 2>that world. But it's almost like the system and society

1:34:02.160 --> 1:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and the way it works is set up to make

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<v Speaker 2>us not be that. Yeah, right, Like we all want that,

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<v Speaker 2>and we will say that, and then something happens in

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<v Speaker 2>the press and then everyone jumps on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to say that to myself too, keep

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in check, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, Charlie. I love how this conversation has been so

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<v Speaker 2>fun and deep. Yeah, and like random and unique, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love that because that's what all of us are, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you try and have a conversation that's

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<v Speaker 2>just deep or just cool or just whatever, it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you just get to know someone three point sixty's,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bit quirky, it's a bit funny. It's it

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<v Speaker 2>was super thoughtful and insightful, and I'm so glad that

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<v Speaker 2>it was truly you. I hope you felt that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, this was refreshing for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Good. I'm glad, and thank you so much for trusting

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<v Speaker 2>me and being here. And I'm so grateful. And everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>been listening or watching, whether you're walking your dogs, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know you do that, whether you're at the gym,

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<v Speaker 2>whether you're driving to and from work, or whether you're

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<v Speaker 2>editing a video. Right now, I want to say thank

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<v Speaker 2>you to you for Liz litening, and I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to share your highlights of so many great insights, thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>just reflections I think that Charlie shared with us today.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure you share the ones that stood out to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Tag both me and Charlie as well, whether you using

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok x or Instagram, because I love seeing what you

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<v Speaker 2>related to and what you connected to. There were so

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<v Speaker 2>many parts today I felt when I was listening, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, I get that, Like I hear that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to know what you heard and what

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<v Speaker 2>you understood and what you learned. Charlie, thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much again. I hope you'll come on many, many more times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes for having me. Seriously, this is really nice to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have the space to talk about anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. You're always welcome. Thank you, always welcome. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you love this episode, you will also love my

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<v Speaker 2>interview with Kendall Jenna on setting boundaries to increase happiness

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<v Speaker 2>and healing You're inner child.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be reading something that someone is saying about

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<v Speaker 1>you and being like, that is so unfair because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not who I am and that really gets to me sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like,

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<v Speaker 1>but I know who I am. Why does any thing

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<v Speaker 1>else matter