1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: It was one day no one cared what I did, 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: no one cared what I wore, what I looked like, 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: what I said, and then all of a sudden, that 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: was all anyone would talk about. I think back to 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: some of the things that I said in interviews, Yeah, 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: I hate comments, don't bother me, and I was like, 7 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: you've went home and cried all night because of it. 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: While filming season three, our entire family was going through 9 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: a lot. It's hard to watch back those episodes. 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It means the world to me. 20 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: The best selling author on Post the number one healthy 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: well inness podcast. 22 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On Purpose. 23 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for choosing us every single week 24 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: to become happier, healthier, and more healed. You know, my 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: goals just to sit down with fascinating people, learn about 26 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: their stories, their journeys, their challenges, so that we can 27 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: all learn and grow together, so that we can start 28 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: to make better decisions, choices, and have insights in our 29 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: life that help us along the way. I've found that 30 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: studying people's lives and studying people's stories has helped me 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: so much in my own life, and I'm hoping that 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: through on Purpose, we can do that together. Today's guest 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,839 Speaker 2: is someone that I've never had the joy of sitting 34 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: down with one on one on the show, So I'm very, 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 2: very excited to invite the superstar crown the reigning Queen 36 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: of TikTok by The New York Times, Charlie Demilio one 37 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: of the first on the platform to hit over one 38 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: hundred million followers and is the current leading female TikTok creator, 39 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: now one of the most recognizable faces online, in print, 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 2: and on screen with our families Hulu docu series The 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: Demilio Show in May of twenty twenty one, and Charlie 42 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: and Dixie launched their own clothing brands social tourist. Charlie 43 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: recently starred in Prada's global ad campaign at the end 44 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two, and in June of twenty twenty two, 45 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: Charlie launched her first ever Fragrance venture Born Dreamer alongside 46 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: her family. In May of twenty twenty three, they launched 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: Damelio foot where, under Demelio Brands, Charlie's influence on social 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: media's and her coveted spots on all the major lists. 49 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: And I want to welcome to the show, Charlie Demilio. Charlie, 50 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: thank you for doing this. Thank you so much for 51 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: being here. 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I'm excited. 53 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been really looking forward to this because I 54 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: want to say this to you, because I don't think 55 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 2: I've ever talked about this with you, but you come 56 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: up in more conversations or when I'm doing keynotes on stages, 57 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: and it's really funny because I kind of think of 58 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: you randomly and often I want to share this to you. 59 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: I've never said this to you, and it comes up 60 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: because I have watched your journey from Afar as everyone 61 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: has for such a long time, and I've really deeply 62 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: admired just how phenomenally skilled old you are at what 63 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: you do. I think you're a phenomenal dancer. You're an 64 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 2: incredible performer, and if I'm ever presenting or talking to 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: anyone about social media or digital or whatever is, I 66 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: always bring your name up because I think you're one 67 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: of those people that obviously got your moment on TikTok 68 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: when it took off and everything, but I feel like 69 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: there were just years and years of practice and hard 70 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: work that went behind it that we don't always see. 71 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: And I just wanted to share that with you as 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: we kick off today that I think it's incredible and 73 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: I think you've been practicing for this life that you 74 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: live since you were like four years old, and so 75 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: I always try and highlight that, and so I don't know, 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: I think of you in that context often. 77 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: And so no, thank you, I mean I appreciate that. 78 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: I think when it comes to social media, it's very 79 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: easy to get on yourself and say it was just luck. 80 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: But to hear that from someone like you as definitely 81 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, puts it into a different perspective that I 82 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: don't always let myself feel, which is really nice. 83 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: Good, I'm glad, Thank you. Do you still kind of 84 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: kid yourself and just say it's luck to yourself. Now 85 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 2: after all these years, do you still feel that way? 86 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I do, and I think that, you know, having that 87 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind definitely keeps me a 88 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: little bit more humble and helps me. You know, this 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: wasn't something that I was asking for looking for, but 90 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I've all, like my entire life, I've been 91 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: filming videos, whether it's like I was ten and look 92 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: at how I do this or this, how do my makeup? 93 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Like always just making videos. That was always something I 94 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: loved and I never shared them with anyone until TikTok. 95 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: So it's really it's crazy to think back about those 96 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: times and how they probably really did help me get 97 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: to where I am now. 98 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: I love what you said that luck, or viewing your 99 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: success as luck, helps you stay humble. I think that's 100 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: such a beautiful trait and quality to aspire for and 101 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: to always practice. At the same time, though, I'm guessing 102 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: that when you see it through the lens of luck, 103 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: sometimes it can affect your self esteem or self worth 104 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: because you're like, oh, I just got lucky, and maybe 105 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: I don't deserve this. I don't know if those thoughts 106 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: come up at the same time as trying to stay humble. 107 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: There's this side of like low self esteem that we 108 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: all go through. 109 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, I think it's hard not to feel 110 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: that way, especially A lot of my journey was everyone 111 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 1: telling me that I didn't deserve it, kind of feeding 112 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: into that, and it's starting to really affect, you know, 113 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: how I think about myself. Do I deserve anything? Why 114 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: am I where I am? I don't do anything special. 115 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: I'm not different than anyone. There's millions of people that 116 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: would probably be better at my job than I am, 117 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: But somehow it's me, And you know, I kind of 118 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: try and separate myself online from who I am in person. 119 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: I always like to say, it's Charlie Demilio whoever Elsie's 120 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: and Charlie who I am when it's just me, And 121 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, you really have to appreciate the things that 122 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: you work hard for, because I feel like those are 123 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: the moments where I really do feel proud of myself, 124 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: because I don't always even when achieving these amazing things, 125 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's not really me. It's the people 126 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: that are watching me that got me here, you know, 127 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: like they could have done this to anyone, But when 128 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: it comes to things like Dancing with the Stars or 129 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: hosting the Kids Choice Awards, like those were two of 130 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: probably my favorite accomplishments of mine because I really felt 131 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: like I had to work for that and it was 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: just moments where I really truly felt proud of myself 133 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: and I don't feel like that very often. 134 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you shared that with us, because Yeah, 135 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: it's interesting, isn't it. It's like the reason why you 136 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: did so well on both of those is because you've 137 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: done it for years and years and years. Yeah, sometimes 138 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: you need to have a moment where you're working really 139 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: hard on one specific thing so that you can see it. 140 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: How long did it take you to make this awareness 141 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: of like there's Charlie Dmillio and then there's Charlie, Like, 142 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: how long did it take you to figure that out 143 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: for yourself and to even explain it in that way? 144 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely took me a while. I always knew 145 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: in the back of my mind. It was like I 146 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: would do certain brand deals or ads and they'd have 147 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: this creative and I'd do it and I put on 148 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: this like super happy smiley, like obviously catering to a 149 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: younger audience, which I love doing, but that's not who 150 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: I am at heart, and I think growing up and 151 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: I started this when I was what fifteen years old, 152 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: and then I was turning seventeen and eighteen and I was, 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: you know, getting tattoos and I would curse and everyone 154 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: would be like, whoa, this is crazy, and I was like, 155 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: this is what I do in my normal day to 156 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: day life, Like this is who I am. So I 157 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: really just had to the version that people don't like 158 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: isn't even me, you know, it's what they nitpick out 159 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: of certain things that I do. And I think coming 160 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: to that realization honestly over the past few months, maybe 161 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: this past year, I think has been probably one of 162 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: the most helpful things to not let what other people 163 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: say get to me. 164 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: I empathize and feel so compassionate for how difficult that 165 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: could be to be that young and have millions and 166 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 2: millions and millions of people having an opinion on everything 167 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: from what you wear to what you say, to what 168 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: you do and who you date and just everything right, Like, 169 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 2: I can't imagine being your age and being put under 170 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: a magnifying glass like in the way you have, which 171 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: I think is also very unique because I think TikTok 172 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: put people under a magnifying glass in a way that 173 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: it's also never been done before. It's like a first 174 00:08:54,360 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: time thing. So what has changed about then? Fifteen and 175 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: you're only eighteen now, so it's only been three years, right, 176 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: nineteen nineteen. Now you're nineteen now, so it's been four years. Yeah, 177 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: in those four years, what has What would you say 178 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: is the biggest change that you've seen in who you 179 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: thought you were then and who you are now? 180 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: I think I just you know, I was in high school. 181 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: It was one day no one cared what I did, 182 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: No one cared what I wore, what I looked like, 183 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: what I said, and then all of a sudden, that 184 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: was all anyone would talk about. It happened so fast, 185 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: and I put up a shield to kind of protect myself, 186 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: which helped me but also hurt me a little bit 187 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: because it was hard to get out of that shell. 188 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: And I mean, I think back to some of the 189 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 1: things that I said in interviews like three years ago, Yeah, 190 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: hate comments, don't bother me, And I was like, you 191 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: went home and cried all night because of it. Like 192 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: I would say things to make people think one thing, 193 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: but inside I was very sheltered, and I went through 194 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: a pretty big stage for maybe like the first two 195 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: years where I always looked out for the best in people, 196 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: and I got myself hurt a lot. You know, people 197 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: wanted to make videos together and they would invite me 198 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: over for collapse and then they would all hang out 199 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be invited, and I would I would 200 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: be so confused, and the excuse was always You're too 201 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: young or you know whatever, and I was like, you 202 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: guys are just hanging out at a house, Like how 203 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: am I too young for that? But not too young 204 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: to have in all your videos? And it took a 205 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: lot of you know, distancing myself, a lot of talking 206 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 1: to my family, going to therapy, you know, figuring out 207 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: who I am outside of anyone watching, to be a 208 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: little bit more content with myself and understand that I 209 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: don't need to have all of these people like me. 210 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: You know, I'm fine on my own. I love being 211 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: by myself. I'm fine with the friends that I have 212 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: in my corner that I've had for years, or the 213 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: new friends that come into my life that actually love 214 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: me for me, And you know, there's nothing that I 215 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: can do. I feel like now I'm kind of at 216 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: a point where, you know whatever, Like that's kind of 217 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: my motto. I always am just like all right, okay, 218 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't care, and focusing more on 219 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: the things that really matter to me. Like it sounds 220 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: so lame because I constantly talk about my dogs like 221 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: they're my children, but literally like spending the day with them, 222 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: taking care of them, my responsibility being them and not myself. 223 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about work or anything. They 224 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: don't care if I have a million followers or none, like, 225 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, just focusing more on the things that 226 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: actually matter, the fans that actually love me no matter what, 227 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: like have been there for years or brand new, and 228 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: actually like who I am and not just what I 229 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: put out. 230 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, it's and it's so hard because so 231 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: much of what you put out is you or is 232 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: a part of you. Yeah, And it can feel like 233 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: the biggest part of you because it gets the biggest response. Yeah, 234 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: And it's it's almost confusing in your brain to be 235 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: like when you're with your dogs, it's a small part 236 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 2: of your life where there's a small amount of people there, 237 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: but it's actually a bigger, yeah, bigger importance significance. 238 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: To you, because I have so much life that no 239 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: one sees. I have so much about me that no 240 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: one knows about, and I'm fine with that, you know. 241 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I need to change myself for 242 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: anyone because I've I did that for so long and 243 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: it was so exhausting and I worked so much while 244 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: being so burnt out and just wanting to kind of 245 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: get away from everyone, that now what I want to 246 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: do is definitely a lot more important than what everyone's 247 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: telling me to do. 248 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: And that's really tough. Like when I've spoken to even 249 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: like young musicians and music stars, it's like most people 250 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: get their break when they're like fifteen years old or 251 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: something like that, and naturally everyone's older than you. And 252 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: as a fifteen year old, you're used to having parents 253 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: or people older than you telling you what to do. 254 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: And so whether it's your manager or whether it's your 255 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: agent or your team or whatever it is, they book you, 256 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 2: and then you're doing what they say. Because you're doing 257 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: what the adults say, it's kind of normal. And now 258 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: that you're an adult yourself, you're kind of like trying 259 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: to take that back. What was it that you felt 260 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: you did that wasn't you, or that you felt you 261 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: were doing because the adults are saying to do it? 262 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: Or what were those things that you felt like you 263 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: moved away from who you wanted to be or who 264 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: you were. 265 00:13:53,960 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: I think I, you know, for quite some time, to 266 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: just do whatever anyone said to make them like me, 267 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: whether it was how I dressed or how I talked, 268 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: or what I said anything what type of videos I make. 269 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I was listening to every comment, whether it was like 270 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: I hate that hoodie, well never wearing that again, like 271 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: this person doesn't like it, and dictating every decision I 272 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: made through what other people said. And I mean for 273 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: a long time, the beginning, I was only surrounded by 274 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of adults and twenty five year olds and 275 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: all of this stuff. And they would always say how 276 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: mature I am. But I was just trying to fit in, 277 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: you know. I was still in high school still, like 278 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, you want to be with the cool kids. 279 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: So the people that I thought was cool, I would 280 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: do anything to be like them, you know, dressed different 281 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: every day, or or speak about specific things, or try 282 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: to sound cool or change myself. And it's just so 283 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: not worth it, because why am I going to do that? 284 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: And how long am I going to do that? Until 285 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: they realize that it's like, okay, we get it, like 286 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: you like whatever, we like, you don't have to do that, 287 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: you know. It's just I think it's it's so unfair 288 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: to yourself to have to do that all the time. 289 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: That I love that you use that word unfair. Yeah, 290 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: it's almost like it's just unfair to do that to yourself. 291 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: That that really hit me and resonated with me because 292 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: it's it's almost like you're just doing yourself such a 293 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 2: big disservice by molding yourself into what you think someone wants. 294 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: And that was just a thought they had on one day, 295 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: in one second, in one. 296 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: Car, and then and then you have no idea who 297 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: you are. I had to sit with myself and say, 298 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: I have no idea what I like. I have no 299 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: idea how I want to dress. I have no idea 300 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: how I want to do my makeup, or what's my 301 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: favorite song or what's my favorite movie. I just I 302 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: don't know, like I do not know anything about myself. 303 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: And my answer to every question was I don't know. 304 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: And I actually had to talk to my therapist about this, 305 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, I say, I don't know to everything. 306 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: But the thing is, I really don't know. I don't 307 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: know who I am. I feel like all I know 308 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: is what anyone tells me to do. And I mean, 309 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: it's it's a really weird feeling because how do you 310 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: get out of that? How do you find out what 311 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: you like? But you really just have to try things, 312 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: get out of your house. I was not leaving my 313 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: house ever, Like I would go through these phases where 314 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to talk to me, I don't 315 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: want to do anything. I just want to stay in 316 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: my room all day, watch TV, like not get ready, nothing. 317 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: And I've been really low a couple times. And I 318 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: think this pastime that I got really low was when 319 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: I was like okay. My parents even said they were like, 320 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: we're not gonna let you. We're not going to sit 321 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: here and watch you rot in bed all day and 322 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: not do anything, and just like, we can't do that. 323 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: That's so unfair, and especially when you don't live with 324 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: your parents and they're noticing that it's an issue. Yeah, 325 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: So I had to kind of really dig deep and 326 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: ask the questions that I didn't ask for so long 327 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Maybe I didn't want to know the answer. 328 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: It was too much or scary to figure it out 329 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: and be your own person. But I think it's just 330 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: so much easier, and. 331 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: I think it's also just you know, being it's really 332 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: hard when you're living your own journey. And then you 333 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: realize as you're getting older and as you are maturing, 334 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: as everyone does, you're looking going I can't really expect 335 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: my fifteen year old self to know all this anyway, 336 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: like I think you know for me when I think 337 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 2: about being back to fifteen, and I didn't know anything 338 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: about myself and I wasn't dealing with the pressures you 339 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: dealt with or the challenges that you had. And sure 340 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: I had different challenges and different stresses, as I'm sure 341 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: everyone does has their own thing. But the point is 342 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: that as a fifteen year old self, you don't really 343 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: know what you like anyway, because it is true you 344 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: are trying to be with the cool kids, or you 345 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 2: are trying to be like the other people, and you're 346 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 2: getting involved in all sorts of things just for people 347 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 2: to give you approval and validate you, and then all 348 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: of a sudden it's amazing that you're now coming to 349 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: that point where you're like, I want to know, And 350 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 2: I think what I love about what you said is 351 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: and it's because I said this often in my books 352 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 2: and my work, is that knowing what movies you like, 353 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: what food do you like, what songs you like? That 354 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: is the beginning of self awareness. Like, it's that basic. 355 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: It's not this complicated, deep thing that it begins with. 356 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: It really starts with those things. It starts with these 357 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: really simple everyday choices that we all have to make. 358 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: So I want to ask you simple everyday choices. What 359 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 2: is it now that Charlie likes? Like, what is it 360 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: that Charlie has discovered that not Charlie d'milio, but Charlie 361 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: enjoys and appreciates that. What are the joys of life 362 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: that your dogs obviously mentioned? Yeah, but what are some 363 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: of the things that brings you joy that you feel 364 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: you're discovering for the first time? 365 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: Things that bring me joy? I love cleaning. That's something 366 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: that sounds so lame but is so therapeutic. 367 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: I love what about cleaning? Because I want to know. 368 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: I want to know now. The way you said that 369 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: was so much genuineness I'm like, what about cleaning. 370 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: Honestly, to me, it's just therapeutic, like put something on 371 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: my TV, clean my room, organize my stuff, make it 372 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: how I like it, you know, because there can be 373 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: certain things that, oh, well, you know this is cool. 374 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: I guess I like this, But what picture do I 375 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: want out? What am I proud of and want presented? 376 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: How do I like my bed made? How do I 377 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: like my chargers to be set up? It's like such 378 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: minusculed things that I think makes such a difference, and 379 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: it also makes you feel productive and makes me feel 380 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: like I have my stuff together. And I mean, as 381 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: someone who struggles with obsessive compulsive disorder, that's one of 382 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: my like big things where I feel like when I'm 383 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: doing that, I'm almost clearing my head. So I don't know, 384 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: it's just something that I genuinely enjoy doing and I 385 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: think is super fun. Like this morning, because I've had 386 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: such bad jet lag, I was like, Okay, I can 387 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: either try to go to sleep for the next three 388 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: hours or get up and clean the kitchen and play 389 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: with the dogs. And I was like, all right, let's 390 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: just get up and do it. You know, I'll get 391 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: up in five minutes and we'll start to do this stuff. 392 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: You order your coffee and do all the things that 393 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: you need to do to feel together. And that made 394 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: me happy and I was really proud I did that, 395 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: and I started my day on a great note and 396 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: now I feel great. So it's just like little things 397 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: that I just I find so much fun in. 398 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean the team will attest to this too. 399 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm like addicted to organizing shelves and bookshelves. So I'll 400 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: take you to the house afterwards, and I have, like 401 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 2: I have this bookshelf in there that I personally curated, 402 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: like everything, and like even if my wife moves one book, 403 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: I'll notice it, yeah, and I'll be like, where's that 404 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: book going. But it's like I get that, like organizing 405 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: spaces and creating spaces to be spaces you want to 406 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: live in and sit in. Like even this room right now, 407 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: Like I curated it because I want to be in 408 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: this space and I want it to feel comfortable for 409 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 2: my guess and for myself, and I want it to 410 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: also spark curiosity or whatever it may be. And I 411 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: think it's interesting how all these tiny things, when you're 412 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: intentional about them, they can spark so much joy without 413 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: trying that hard. 414 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: And I mean it might be a little bit of 415 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: like the very few parts of my life that I 416 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: genuinely get to control. You know, it's not up to 417 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: anyone else. 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What else would you 452 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: say that you've discovered about your likes and dislikes, Like 453 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: what was something that you thought you liked before or 454 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: someone had told you to like before, and now you're like, 455 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: I actually change now, Like that's not how I feel 456 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 2: about it. 457 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: Ooh, there's definitely a few. I'd say. One thing that 458 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: I started to specifically like my own way was music. 459 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: I you know, would listen to whatever's popular. And I 460 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: feel like now I really only listen to the songs 461 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: that I genuinely enjoy listening to where I relate to, 462 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: and even if it's the most random playlist ever, where 463 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: it's like rap, sad music, country music, like all in one, 464 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: I enjoy listening to that, and I don't have to 465 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: listen to whatever everyone else is listening to. And I 466 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: also can if I want to, If I want to 467 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: listen to whatever's the top one hundred, I'm gonna do that, 468 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: you know, even in front of other people, Like I 469 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: can play what I like and I'll take suggestions and 470 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: not just what's your favorite song, Well, whatever one's the 471 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: top one right now, Like you know, having that to 472 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: myself is also something really nice. 473 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: Have you discovered any new artists or anyone recently that 474 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: you're like someone that maybe we haven't heard of, or 475 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: someone that maybe is less heard of that you like. 476 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: Well, my favorite artist his name is Pimstones. He doesn't 477 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: make music anymore, which is really really sad, but he's 478 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: my favorite artist ever. He's made like some of the 479 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: most incredible songs I've ever heard, and they're just so 480 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: beautiful to listen to. And one of them has been 481 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: my favorite song for a while. Actually, someone at my 482 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: dance studio when I was like probably thirteen, had a 483 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: solo to it Wow. And ever since then, I've been obsessed. 484 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: And he only has like two songs out on Spotify, 485 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: but I will listen to the two of them just 486 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: on repeat forever and ever and ever because they're so good. 487 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: Wow Wow. Yeah, Yeah, I love it. I'll check it out. 488 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 2: Only two songs on Spotify, Yeah, Jamestones, Alright, I'm gonna 489 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 2: go check it out after this interview. No, I love that, 490 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: and I think it's really refreshing and it must feel 491 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: so good. I can see it your face. So you 492 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: just seem so like genuinely happy talking about the things 493 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 2: that spark joy, that bring you that sense of comfort 494 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 2: and ease and make life that much more. What if 495 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 2: someone right now is listening and they're like, Charlie, I'm 496 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 2: struggling with what you just said. Like, I find it 497 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: hard to be open and honest about the things I 498 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 2: like because people make fun of me or ridicule me, 499 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: or maybe people tell me that's not cool or whatever. 500 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: It is, Like, what has slowly given you the confidence 501 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: to get there? And what do you think people need 502 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: to hear to almost feel confident in themselves to say that? 503 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: I think it just starts with giving yourself permission to 504 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: be open with yourself, because it really, like, as much 505 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: as it sucks to hear like it is all in 506 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: your head, you have to work on yourself talk. And 507 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: I think positive self talk is something that is so 508 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: often overlooked because everyone's so overly critical of themselves. You 509 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: see your face, you know, in the reflection of your phone, 510 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: you're in pictures, background of photos. You're like, oh, I 511 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: hate this one, but this one posted it, and I 512 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. You know, you have to. 513 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: Once you start speaking in a more positive tone about 514 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 1: yourself and the people around you, the easier it is 515 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: to feel more positive, you know, instead of I hate 516 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: the way I look today, you know what, my hair 517 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: is doing something different and I kind of like it, 518 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, starting with those little little things that sound 519 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: so so like it's so tiny, who even cares? You know, 520 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 1: it's in my head. It's not affecting anyone, but it's 521 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: affecting yourself. So I think just the more you can 522 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: be positive and open with yourself and not so overly 523 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: critical of yourself. If you like a movie and no 524 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: one else likes that movie, doesn't mean it's a bad 525 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: movie and you can't like it. You can still enjoy 526 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: watching it, and Okay, we just have different opinions. That's normal, 527 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: and they probably like stuff I don't like, but that 528 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: doesn't take away from what they like. It's just, you know, 529 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: the way you talk to yourself is so important. 530 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're so right, and it's so subtle, like those 531 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: thoughts as you just said, Like I love that switch 532 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: that you just made between I don't like how my 533 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: hair looks today, or oh my head's doing something different 534 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: today and that's interesting or it looks cool, whatever it 535 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: may be. There's an amazing book for those who are 536 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: more interested in what Charlie's talking about right now. It's 537 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: called Psycho cybernetics, and it's this whole idea of how 538 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: our thoughts completely define our reality and how as you 539 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: just said, studies showed that we have sixty to eighty 540 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: thousand thoughts per day, and eighty percent of them are 541 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: negative and repetitive. So we're often having the same thought, 542 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: which is like I don't like how I look or 543 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: I don't like how my hair looks, or I don't 544 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 2: like this about me or whatever it may be. And 545 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: you keep having that thought, oh yeah, and then it 546 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: just spirals and then that's all you feel about yourself, 547 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: and then it becomes your reality. So that book really 548 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: helped me. It's an old school classic in this space, 549 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 2: but it convinces you that you can change your thoughts 550 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: and it's not like you're lying to yourself, right, Like, 551 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: I want to address this for people who think that 552 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 2: positive This is not about positive thinking. This is not 553 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: like looking at yourself and going I'm amazing and I'm special. 554 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: Like that stuff doesn't work either. Yeah, but it's almost 555 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: just tweaking your thoughts slightly to being How do you 556 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 2: change from being critical to just being curious? And that 557 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: little switch can change everything exactly. 558 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: And I think It's so important because getting to the 559 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: point where you have a more positive self talk, it's 560 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: it's not linear. You know, you're gonna have dips and 561 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: bad days and good days and bad months and good months. 562 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: You just that's that's how it works. But I notice 563 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: when I start to see myself slip and realize I've 564 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: been super critical of myself and you know what, I've 565 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: had such a bad week. That's probably why I'm feeling 566 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: so insecure, and maybe I'm taking it out on other 567 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: people or I don't want to leave my house because 568 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: I've critiqued everything about the way I look and not 569 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: focus on one positive thing at all, you know it. 570 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: Really that's when I noticed, when I started to dip again, 571 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: how important it is to really focus on being kind 572 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: to yourself. 573 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I hope people really hear that, because I 574 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 2: think the reason why we're hard on others is because 575 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: we're so hard on ourselves. And the reason we're so 576 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 2: hard on ourselves is because we're so hard on others. 577 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: And it's almost like if we were just able to 578 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: be kinda to the stranger or our friend, our family member, 579 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: then I think we'd actually be able to be more 580 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: kind to ourselves, and. 581 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: Even like in friendships and relationships, I think it's important 582 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: if you're telling jokes back and forth to each other 583 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: and maybe they're like, you know how you joke with 584 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: your friends, Like sometimes it can be a little mean. Yeah, 585 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, I've done the why don't we try and 586 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: just be really really nice to each other for a 587 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: little bit, Let's really focus on bringing each other up. 588 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: And I've actually had that conversation before and I think 589 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: it's something that sounds almost corny, like let's be super 590 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: nice to each other, but it really is helpful to 591 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: have the people that you love. And maybe you say 592 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: it when you're a little bit down, so you know, 593 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: you're not asking for compliments, You're just asking for a 594 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: more positive environment around you. And I think that there's 595 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: something so special about that, and the people around you 596 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: that love you will definitely be open to it, you know. 597 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: And I think that there's also something in that the 598 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: people that you have around you every day you need 599 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: to try and build up with you. 600 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's get I get that people find that hard. 601 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: Because I'm also in England, we banter a lot, and 602 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: so I'm banter a lot on my team with my wife, Like, 603 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: if people see me and my wife together, they're like, 604 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: you guys, hate you too, literally because we'd go so 605 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: hard and even my friends. I just came back from 606 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: London for my sister's wedding and I was there with 607 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: all my boys and I was so we're so intense 608 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: with each other, and that's how close we are, Like 609 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: the more intense we could be. But you're right that sometimes, 610 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: and it's really interesting because when you get into a 611 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: one on one with a friend, they'll say how much 612 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: they need the opposite. Like when you're with a group 613 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: of people and you're all bantering, it's great, but then 614 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 2: when you're one on one with someone, you hear how 615 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 2: someone's like, you know, I need a bit of encouragement, right, Yeah, 616 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: I need to know that you think I'm doing good 617 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: at this or whatever it may be. 618 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: So and also like, don't be afraid to be the 619 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: person that is going to text all the people around 620 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: you every time you see them do something, I'm so 621 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: proud of you, like you looked amazing at this or 622 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: this was so cool that you did this. Like be 623 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: that person, be the annoying person. You know, I wish 624 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: I did it more, and I should, and that's something 625 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: that I'll take into the of the day. But this 626 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: morning even I had a conversation with my mom and 627 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: she's got back into modeling. She's in Louisiana right now, 628 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: so I haven't seen her in a couple of days, 629 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: and she was sending me photos and I didn't answer 630 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: my phone for a little bit, just because I've been 631 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: jet lagged and crazy, and I was like, geez, like, 632 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: if I sent her something, I would want to hear 633 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: back how proud she is of me. So let me 634 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: just go over the top, because sometimes you need to 635 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 1: be that person, especially if that's the energy that you're 636 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 1: trying to get back. You can't get that without giving 637 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: it too. 638 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well said, And how's that been, because obviously that's 639 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: a big part of it, right, especially with the new 640 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: new docu series as well, like the new season, like 641 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: this idea of your whole family is now in the spotlight. Yeah, 642 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: And it's almost like people just lump everyone together, especially 643 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: when it's a big family and everyone's got exciting things happening. 644 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: And you know, I've obviously interviewed your whole family before, 645 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: so I've sat with them and it's wonderful and at 646 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: the same time, it's hard to find your own space 647 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: and call of your own identity, right, Like that's challenging. 648 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that the family dynamic is something that 649 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: is really really confusing, especially for me. I'm the youngest, 650 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: So you spend all your time trying to impress your 651 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: older sister. You spend all your time trying to prove 652 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: something to your parents, even when they're already proud of you. 653 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: You know, it's really confusing. You don't know where you 654 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: fit in. I'm like, I live with my sister. I 655 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 1: don't live with my parents, but you know, I still 656 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: want the same support that I got when I lived 657 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: with them. But I can't just go up to their 658 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: room anytime I'm having a bad day. They don't know 659 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: what's going on with me all the time when we're 660 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: working together and on a shoot. You know, I hate 661 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: to say this, but sometimes they want more stuff of 662 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: me or whatever it is, or we want this for 663 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: the family, and then they'll you know, expect extra from me, 664 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, where do I fit in because 665 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm the youngest, But sometimes they want the most and 666 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,880 Speaker 1: will you know, it gets the point where it's like, 667 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: well they they're not there for me, and it's like, well, 668 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: you know what, everyone's doing their own stuff. Like, everyone 669 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: has their own stuff going on. Dixie has music, my 670 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: mom's modeling, my dad's doing business stuff, Like there's so 671 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: much going on for all of us at the same time. 672 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: It can get hard to celebrate every single achievement when 673 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: there's just four of us all doing different things, all 674 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: at the same time, running from place to place, traveling. 675 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: You know, we're still figuring that out now. I think 676 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: while filming season three, our entire family was going through 677 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: a lot, like mentally and with work. So it's hard 678 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: to watch back those episodes because we were just all 679 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: in such a different place and so confused at where 680 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: we all stand and taking it out on each other, 681 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: which I think is probably the biggest regret I have 682 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: through all of this with my family, is like we 683 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: need to have each other's backs through everything, because you know, 684 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: through it all, you work with people, you make friends, whatever, 685 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,879 Speaker 1: you have to have family or people that you've kind 686 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: of adopted as family that are there to support you 687 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: when there's no cameras or when there's no likes or 688 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 1: followers anything like. You need that and the hardest time 689 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: for all of us was when we didn't have each 690 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: other to lean on, and that is really really shown 691 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: in season three, and like even when I see clips, 692 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to see it at all, 693 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: Like that was such a hard time for all of us, 694 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: and it's so embarrassing at times to see that, like 695 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: people posting it, reposting it, edits of it, edits of 696 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: times where I was like really really really struggling and 697 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: hearing people She's so dramatic, but you hear a tenth 698 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: of what was acting actually going on, you know, So 699 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot or things are you know, maybe 700 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: I was upset about one thing, but in the show 701 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: it looks like I'm upset about something else. It's like 702 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff that's just I don't even 703 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: want to pay attention to it. 704 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 2: It must be so challenging, like I've always I've always 705 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 2: thought about it, like having a show where every one 706 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: of your feelings and emotions is being documented and then 707 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: broadcast sounds like the most challenging thing ever. 708 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: It's a lot. 709 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like even just that as a premise, and 710 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: I know it's been around forever, and you know, Famili 711 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: has been followed forever, and there's this format has been 712 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 2: around forever. But I'm like it doesn't get easier because 713 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: of that, because as humans, we love to watch drama. 714 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 2: We love to watch the gossip. We want to see 715 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 2: the scoop. The show has like twists and changes, and 716 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 2: you know, characters that are upset at each other, and 717 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: you have all of this going on, but then behind 718 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: all of that there's a real human with emotions, yeah, 719 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,760 Speaker 2: trying to figure it all out. Have you been able 720 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: to separate like yourself and then the character on the 721 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: show too, Like do you feel or do you feel 722 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: that's just so interrelated that you're like in. 723 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: Ways, yes for sure, but like people don't realize when 724 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: you're filming. Sometimes you forget you have a mic on 725 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: and you say something and you're like, I really wasn't 726 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: that deep, Like, yeah, it's not that important. Sometimes you're 727 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: really really upset or you're maybe mentally struggling a little bit, 728 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: and you don't have a reason, because sometimes you don't 729 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: need a reason. Sometimes you just feel really bad and 730 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: that happens, so you go through these well why are 731 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: you well, what was happening? You know? Was it this 732 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: person's fault and it's like, well, I don't know. I 733 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: was just really feeling bad and I didn't have a 734 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: handle on it and I had to film, so you know, 735 00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 1: it's like I don't get a choice of how I 736 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: how I go into filming. You know, I can try 737 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: and go in with a positive mindset, but after a 738 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: couple hours, you know, like I'm tired, and you see 739 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: how maybe I was really feeling that day. Maybe it's 740 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: nothing that was at all in the show, like people 741 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,959 Speaker 1: watching have no idea, but it is so many real 742 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 1: emotions that it's really really hard to separate the two. 743 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: But hopefully, you know, if another season happens, I'll be 744 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: able to do that. 745 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: And why did you feel there in season three that 746 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 2: it got harder with family than easier, Like you'd hope 747 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 2: that season three, like maybe it easier, But why do 748 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: you think it got hard? Is it just that everyone's 749 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 2: more busy now or. 750 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we were just all going through so 751 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: much individually and constantly taking it out on each other. 752 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: And you know that's building blocks to working with your family. 753 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: No family that works together is perfect all the time. 754 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: And if you say you are, you are so wrong, 755 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: especially when you know, we talk about it all the time, 756 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: like family is everything, but when you're in those moment 757 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: where you're like, I'm pissed at this person in my 758 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: family because of maybe it's something stupid, But to me, 759 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 1: it's like it feels like a lot. It feels like 760 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: the entire world on my shoulders for maybe something that 761 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: isn't that big of a deal, but it feels like 762 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: that to me. You know, it's just we were all 763 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: going through so much at the same time that there 764 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: was no way that these cameras weren't going. 765 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 2: To catch it. It sounds like even even though obviously 766 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 2: you said that, you know, when you're a kid, you 767 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 2: still want your family to take care of you. And 768 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: obviously now you're in a position where obviously you take 769 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: care of yourself. You live with your sister. But what 770 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 2: would you say, has been the biggest skills you've learned 771 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: in how to take care of yourself when you don't 772 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: have your family to rely on. 773 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know. I feel like that's something that 774 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: is so confusing to me. Still. I feel so independent 775 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm traveling without any of my friends 776 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: or family. I'm on these big work calls, like I 777 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: have no training for this. I didn't even finish high school. Like, 778 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how to do this. I don't know 779 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: if I'm making the right decision. I don't know if 780 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: this is, you know, good or bad. I still call 781 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: my dad all the time and I'm like, Okay, but seriously, 782 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: what do you think about this? Because I like, this 783 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: sounds not that cool to me, but apparently it's really 784 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: like I have no idea how this works. And you know, 785 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: the more I do it, the more I get comfortable 786 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: and learn. But I missed so much of the normal 787 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,919 Speaker 1: growing up, going to college and then coming back for Thanksgiving, 788 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: Christmas or whatever it is that I kind of had 789 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: to like race to figure it out because it was 790 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: one day you're a kid and you're in high school 791 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: and you have no responsibilities, and now you have people 792 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: that are working for you and you're responsible for them, 793 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: and you're responsible for everything that you do and you're 794 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: not allowed to mess up. But I'm sixteen. I don't 795 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: know how to not mess up. I don't know anything, 796 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: Like how am I supposed to learn that without having 797 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: these real life experiences. So I think the more as 798 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: time goes on and the more I'm put in these 799 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: situations where I have to be independent and a grown up. 800 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: You know, the easier it gets, but it's still something 801 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: that I really have to figure out in each individual situation. 802 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thirty six and I still don't know how 803 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 2: not to mess up. It's just because I think what 804 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 2: we don't realize is you've got yourself and your identity, 805 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: like you as an individual, which is always changing. So 806 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 2: whether you're thirty six or whether you're nineteen, you're still 807 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: dealing with that. On top of that, you've now got 808 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 2: the industry is always changing, so like the platforms are changing, 809 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 2: and the business is changing, and there's social whatever, all 810 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 2: of that's always changing. So you've never done it before, 811 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: and most people have never done it before. Yeah, So 812 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: no matter how smart someone was five months ago, everything's 813 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,399 Speaker 2: changed and so everything's being updated. And then on top 814 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 2: of all of that, you've got everyone around you who's 815 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: constantly changing and growing and evolving, and so it's so 816 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 2: hard to ever feel you ever have a handle on 817 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 2: all areas of your life. Yeah, and so definitely as 818 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 2: a sixteen year old now a nineteen year old, Like, 819 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 2: it's it's so much to learn quickly, and I think 820 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 2: you had your you've recently had your prom, or you 821 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: did your prom here right like you? 822 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had, I had two. We did one on 823 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, and then I went to my high 824 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: school prom at my hometown. Okay, cool, Yeah, which is 825 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: really fun and like the bit of senior year that 826 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: I got to have, which was really nice because I 827 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: didn't get that at all, and a lot of kids 828 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: didn't during COVID and everything. So I'm definitely not the 829 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 1: only person feeling like there's a lot of freshman sophomore 830 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 1: year of college, like people didn't get that. People didn't 831 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: get that very very integral part of growing up, or 832 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: whether it's your first job, like this was my first job. 833 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: I had never had any true responsibility before, and I 834 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: don't know how, and there's no rulebook to say, well, 835 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: this is how you be an adult. So it's kind 836 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: of just figuring it out and messing up along the way. 837 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 1: But when you mess up and you have so many 838 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: people telling you how you messed up and how that's 839 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: horrible and you're doing all of these things wrong, you're like, yeah, 840 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: I know, but this is all I know how to do. 841 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: You kind of just every day learn a little bit 842 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: and just continue to do your best because that's all 843 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: you can do. 844 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And and do you know what, it's interesting 845 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: because we're hearing that from you, and I think everyone's 846 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 2: listening right now is going that's me too, Like, you know, 847 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,360 Speaker 2: I think it doesn't matter how old you are, or 848 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: how wise you are, or how smart, or whether you 849 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: have your own business or you don't, or we're just 850 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 2: all feeling that way because everyone is just trying to 851 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 2: do their best, and sometimes my best is not good 852 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 2: enough for everyone else, but that's all they could give. 853 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 2: And I feel that for anyone and everyone today, And 854 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 2: so I think what you're saying resonates or feels very relatable, 855 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: at least even to me. And I'm sure everyoneho's listening 856 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,240 Speaker 2: is thinking that as well. Like I'm just trying, yeah, 857 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: And that's like. 858 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: The normal human experience. And I definitely get on myself 859 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: about it, but everyone's just doing their best. Like my 860 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: parents are still figuring out who they are, you know, 861 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: it's ever changing. Like my grandmother before she passed, started 862 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 1: to get a handle on all of the social media 863 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,840 Speaker 1: stuff and like how to watch me? She would watch 864 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: YouTube videos or like see see things online articles and 865 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: she would be like, I heard you did this, and 866 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's not true. That's just like an article, 867 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: you know, and she's like, no, no, but I saw it 868 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 1: in the press and I was like, yeah, I know, 869 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: but it's not it's not true. So we had to 870 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: get a handle on that. But she was changing, and 871 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 1: she was evolve with the times, and she didn't know 872 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 1: how it worked, and she was you know, she was 873 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: she was a lot older and still figuring out who 874 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: she is and well, how do I do this? And 875 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: and I want to watch you, but I have to 876 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: discover this whole new thing. Like everyone is learning something, 877 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: and she was just doing her best to watch her 878 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: grandchildren on social media, like it's something that is so 879 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: cute and something that seems so simple to me, like 880 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: we'll just download TikTok and watch my videos, you know, 881 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 1: But to her it was like this whole new thing 882 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: that she has to learn. And I think once you 883 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 1: realize that, literally everyone is just trying to do their 884 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 1: best to get to the next day, Like you can 885 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: be a lot easier on yourself, but also a lot 886 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 1: easier on everyone around you. 887 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 2: And also even just what you said about your grandmother, 888 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 2: like learning about how she's reading something that sounds so 889 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 2: true and you're like, no, it didn't happen that way. 890 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,719 Speaker 2: And it's funny because I go through similar things with 891 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 2: me and my family. So my parents will read an 892 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 2: article about me or whatever, and they'll get really upset 893 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,479 Speaker 2: for me, or they'll get offended for me because there's 894 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 2: something in it that they don't like or whatever it is, 895 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 2: or there's something said about the family, which you must 896 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 2: have to do with way more than I do, because 897 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 2: your family's in the spotlight too. But then they're like, oh, well, 898 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,400 Speaker 2: why did they say that about the family and this 899 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: and that? And I'm like, I didn't say anything, like 900 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 2: you know, it's almost like I didn't even talk about that. 901 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 2: I didn't mention anything. It's just someone coming up with something. Yeah, 902 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 2: and I can't imagine for you, Like. 903 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,280 Speaker 1: It's like the clickbait articles where I'm like, I'm telling 904 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: you that this isn't real. Or she'd like see someone 905 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,959 Speaker 1: online she's like, I don't like them. Why they said 906 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: something about you three years ago? Well, they're my friends 907 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: now She's like, I don't know, I don't like them. 908 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, you're gonna think whatever you think, like, 909 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: that's fine. She was so cute and so so supportive. 910 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 1: Like she spent all day on her iPad just watching 911 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: YouTube compilations of my tiktoks, And every time I see her, 912 00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: she'd be like, you need to stop cursing on the internet. 913 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 2: Was like, I know, I know, that's so sweet. That's 914 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 2: so funny. Yeah, I mean, and you're nice of you 915 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 2: not to block out from those videos. 916 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Even my other grandma, she like still swipes 917 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: up on all my stories. She's like, you look great, 918 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: or she'd reply to fan pages like a lot of 919 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 1: people's grandparents. I hear this all the time from all 920 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: the social media kids. It's like my grandma responds to 921 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,279 Speaker 1: my fan pages thinking they're me. And I'm like, it's 922 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 1: so like it's so so ea and I love it. 923 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: And I mean my grandma, that's my grandma on my 924 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: dad's side, Like she like she still texts me all 925 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: the time like do you look so good in this? 926 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,720 Speaker 1: Or this is so cool? Or anytime I do anything 927 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: where it's like something that she would like, I'll like 928 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: send her a photo and you know she's just proud. 929 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 1: You know. That's also a good person to talk to 930 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: that's just like always going to be proud of me. 931 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: Just really nice to have. 932 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely to allow that in. Do you find that 933 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 2: you've found, like, I know you're close with Markel, who 934 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 2: I love to is such a I love Markel's energy. 935 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,479 Speaker 2: I've only met him a couple of times, but he's 936 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,959 Speaker 2: so awesome. Have you found that you've got a good 937 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 2: group of friends around you in the industry, Because what 938 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 2: I've found is that so I have a bunch of 939 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 2: great friends back in London who are like my best friends, 940 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 2: like my best man at my wedding, and like my 941 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 2: closest friends that I grew up with, and I speak 942 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 2: to them like I speak to my best friend like 943 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 2: three times a week still because it's so important to 944 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 2: me and it and I need it. And at the 945 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 2: same time, I also need friends who are in the 946 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 2: industry because there are certain things that we can all 947 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 2: understand about the industry, kind of like the idea of yeah, 948 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 2: don't trust the press on that and whatever, because they 949 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,720 Speaker 2: already know that because they go through the same stuff. 950 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 2: Do you find I know, it sounds like you have 951 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 2: a great group of friends back at home. Do you 952 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 2: find that you've also found the good friends in the 953 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 2: industry that you can kind of compare notes with a 954 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: bit too and be like, oh, I just went through 955 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 2: that and this is how I'm feeling. 956 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I mean Markel's like he's family to me. 957 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he has shown. 958 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: So much to me just as a person, whether it's 959 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: talking to me one on one or defending me online, 960 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: or you know, defending me to the people around him. 961 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: Like he is someone that every person that meets him 962 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: has so much amazing things to say about him, and 963 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm so thankful that I have him in my life, 964 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: whether it's like we're doing nothing, or we're out with 965 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of people and we want to have a 966 00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: dance party in the middle of the dance floor and 967 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: it's just us too, like we'll do it, or in 968 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 1: the middle of a restaurant, whatever it is, Like, I 969 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: love that. But I've definitely found a lot of people 970 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: that are in the industry, and a lot of the 971 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: friendships that I have I tend to keep quiet about. 972 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 1: And a lot of the friendships that I have, I've 973 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: met them in very, very weird ways, because how am 974 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: I supposed to meet people? You know, I don't go 975 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 1: out super often I don't. I'm not usually around people 976 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: my own age. Like a lot of my friends that 977 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:08,720 Speaker 1: I met, they were actually dancers at the Kid's Choice Awards, 978 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: and we just clicked and I started to hang out 979 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: with them, and I really like them, and they're really 980 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: cool people, and they're in an industry that I'm so 981 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: fascinated by, and yeah, they do so much similar things 982 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 1: to me, but it's also different, and I think that 983 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 1: that's really special. And after meeting them, it was really 984 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: refreshing to be around people my own age and also 985 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 1: just have people that are hardworking and determined and not 986 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: competitive with me at all and just happy to see 987 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: me happy. And I can have fun with whether we're 988 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: filming or not. You know. But even like my boyfriend, 989 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: he's in the industry, and you know, we tend to 990 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: handle things a little bit differently. But sometimes I have 991 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 1: to be like, it's not worth it. You know. We 992 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: don't have to respond, we don't have to anything, like 993 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: it's not worth it. I know, you you know me, 994 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: whether people are saying things about me or people are 995 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: saying things about a relationship. You know, having each other 996 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: to kind of navigate that on our own is really 997 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: nice because it's also what two nineteen year olds in 998 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,919 Speaker 1: a relationship have their lives together. You know, there's ups 999 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: and downs, like whether I'm working all the time or 1000 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: he's working all the time, or I'm traveling or whatever. 1001 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: It is, like, there's always so much going on that 1002 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: can so easily put a strain on a relationship. And 1003 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: also just coming into adulthood with two teenagers that have 1004 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: no idea what they're doing and just trying their best, like, 1005 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's been really confusing to navigate, but also 1006 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 1: really refreshing to have someone else there that's like just 1007 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out day by day. 1008 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,360 Speaker 2: It's almost yeah, it's almost easier in one sense because 1009 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 2: you have someone to bounce it off of. Yeah, as 1010 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 2: opposed to. 1011 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 1: You're like, am I crazy? Are you crazy? Is this? Like? 1012 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: Is this okay? You know, so it's it's really nice. 1013 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 2: Do you think the hardest part about success and fame 1014 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: is having a relationship in the public eye. Would you 1015 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 2: say that that's the hardest part in terms of when 1016 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 2: it comes to your relationships or that's. 1017 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: Not Sometimes I feel like, you know, when two people 1018 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: that are in a relationship have like an off week 1019 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,240 Speaker 1: or whatever, there can be the whole. This person didn't 1020 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,239 Speaker 1: like their photo, or they haven't posted together, they're broken up, 1021 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,320 Speaker 1: or this person's starting a rumor. Like even if you 1022 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,880 Speaker 1: too are struggling, that's for you to go through and 1023 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: handle it however's appropriate whether you guys part ways or 1024 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: continue to work through things together. Like no relationship is perfect. Ever, 1025 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 1: you have moments where so much is going on, Like 1026 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: during Dancing with the Stars, I was dancing seven days 1027 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: a week. I was never home. He was like, I 1028 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: felt like I didn't have a girlfriend, and that was 1029 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 1: really hard. It was hard on my parents, you know, 1030 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 1: Like it's a lot, and especially for two young teenagers 1031 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: to go through, Like we don't know how to do this. 1032 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 1: No one knows how to do this. So we're just 1033 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: doing our best and there's ups and downs, but we 1034 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: work through it. And that's just being a person, you know. 1035 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, And and just the idea of 1036 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 2: it is interesting when you've got two people who have 1037 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 2: crazy lives and have different journeys and have different you know, 1038 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,280 Speaker 2: commitments and family commitments and there's just so much going on. Yeah, 1039 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 2: to keep up with it, Well, what have you found 1040 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 2: what has helped you both kind of keep up with 1041 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 2: each other's schedules in each other's lives because that's not 1042 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 2: going to change, at least not right now. And so 1043 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,480 Speaker 2: what has helped, what has worked? 1044 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,880 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we've obviously talked about this so much, 1045 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: just as a whole was I was just gone for 1046 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 1: almost two weeks and we were on different time zones, 1047 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 1: just trying to text and update each other. But it's 1048 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: figuring out what each other needs. You know, if he 1049 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: wants me to keep him updated, then I'll keep him 1050 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: updated because that's what he needs. If if I need 1051 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,919 Speaker 1: him to tell me what's going on in his week 1052 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,479 Speaker 1: so I don't feel left out, like that's totally cool, 1053 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: that's what I need. It's just having that conversation and 1054 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: realizing that people's needs change and adapting with that and 1055 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 1: not feeling like, well, I don't want to make him upset, 1056 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 1: like he's working a lot and I know he's super busy, 1057 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: like I need a shoulder to lean on. It's also 1058 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 1: having the conversation like sometimes I'll literally say I'm really 1059 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 1: really sensitive right now, like I just need some extra support, 1060 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,800 Speaker 1: and then he knows to well, she needs this right now, Okay, 1061 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: Like that's totally cool. That's two people in a relationship 1062 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: doing whatever they can to make the other person happy, 1063 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: just normal human things and definitely not worrying about what 1064 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 1: anyone online has to say. It's so not worth it. 1065 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,920 Speaker 1: It really isn't because ninety nine percent of these people 1066 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: are looking for you to respond. Like even today, I 1067 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: woke up to some crazy person talking about me and 1068 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:26,800 Speaker 1: like the most wildly disrespectful way is like I've really 1069 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 1: seen a long time. And the thing is, like me 1070 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 1: and this person were at an event together and this 1071 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: person introduced themselves. I introduced myself, so we tried to 1072 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: be nice. This kid was not nice to me and 1073 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 1: then went and talked very poorly on me. And Lynnon's like, well, 1074 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 1: let me call this kid, And I'm like, it's not 1075 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: that big of a deal, Like, it's not that's what 1076 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: he's looking for. Is it taking everything in me not 1077 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 1: to respond or not to text him. Yeah, but I 1078 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 1: know if I text him, he's gonna post it, and 1079 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: that's going to be a thing, and he's going to 1080 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: get exactly what he wants me to respond and give 1081 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,400 Speaker 1: in to whatever's story he wants to portray to the 1082 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,280 Speaker 1: people that watch him. It's not it's not my problem, 1083 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: Like I know who I am and that's good enough 1084 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: for me, Like it doesn't matter. 1085 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's so hard to get to that point, 1086 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 2: but it's so libering when you do, Like it's so 1087 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 2: freeing when you realize that where you're like actually not 1088 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,560 Speaker 2: responding is not getting caught up in someone else's yeah yeah. 1089 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: And like then it just gives people an opportunity to well, 1090 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 1: if I say this about her, then she's gonna respond. 1091 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,680 Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't have time to respond to 1092 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: every little thing that people have to say about me, 1093 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:43,280 Speaker 1: And it takes so much. It's so draining to have 1094 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 1: to see that. And the more you talk about it, 1095 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: the more your fans talk about it, and people in 1096 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: the press talk about it, and it's like for what reason? 1097 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: Because I was angry at this kid who I met once, 1098 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: Like who cares? 1099 00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's hard when the person you're in a 1100 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 2: relationship with wants to defend you too, And. 1101 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 1: And he's so sweet. He is so quick to defend 1102 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 1: me in every way possible, and I just have to 1103 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: be like, it's cool. 1104 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 2: It's good. 1105 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,280 Speaker 1: I feel like I tell him that all the time 1106 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 1: because he gets so upset whenever people have something negative 1107 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: to say about me or his family. And I mean 1108 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 1: I think I definitely told him, like many many times, 1109 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: it's cool, It's totally fine. They're gonna say it no 1110 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 1: matter what. And even if you respond and are like, 1111 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: well this isn't true because this is this they're not 1112 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 1: They're they already read it and they think what they 1113 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 1: think about you. They're not going to change their minds, 1114 00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 1: you know. 1115 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're arguing. 1116 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: With people that don't care what you have to say. 1117 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's already lost. Like, yeah, it's it's a lose 1118 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 2: lose situation. Yeah, so moving on is the best thing 1119 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,120 Speaker 2: you can do. Yeah. No, And it's wonderful to be 1120 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 2: with someone and have that with someone who you know 1121 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 2: cares about you that deeply. And my wife's like that, 1122 00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 2: Like my wife gets very defensive about me and like 1123 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 2: can get really activated and she gets really upset for 1124 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 2: me and whatever maybe, and I I really always appreciate 1125 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,800 Speaker 2: that because I can see that she knows who I am. 1126 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 2: And that's kind of what it goes back to her. 1127 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,840 Speaker 2: I always said the same thing to him, like I'm 1128 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,720 Speaker 2: just glad I have someone who knows who I am. 1129 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: Especially like when someone cares about you like that, to 1130 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 1: see you upset because of something and not being able 1131 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 1: to fix the problem because they just want to see 1132 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:28,800 Speaker 1: you happy. Like I understand how upset that might make you, 1133 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, And I feel bad because sometimes I feel 1134 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: like I drag him into the drama just because of 1135 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 1: the relationship. But I think knowing that, you know, we 1136 00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: have each other and I can tell him like this 1137 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 1: was this actually really hurt my feelings today, and it 1138 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 1: was it was a lot. And I just need some 1139 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: comfort and I need you to be by my side, 1140 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: and that's good enough for me, you know. 1141 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 2: Definitely. Definitely, Charlie, what are you excited about right now? 1142 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 2: Like what's kind of like, you know, you've done so 1143 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 2: many amazing things, and I feel like this journey that 1144 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 2: you're saying with your identity of like getting to know 1145 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 2: yourself better. Yeah, You've done so many things, and I'm 1146 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 2: guessing some of them you're like, oh, yeah, that was 1147 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,160 Speaker 2: Charlie Demilio and Charlie. It's like, what is Charlie like 1148 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 2: really excited about or curious about or passionate about, or 1149 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,520 Speaker 2: like what's coming up where you're like, I really want 1150 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 2: to try that out or learn that or whatever whatever 1151 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 2: it may be, like open for. 1152 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I think the first thing that I'm most excited 1153 01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: about is my dogs. I have a puppy. I know, 1154 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: I sound so lame. 1155 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 2: I have a puppy. I'm not loving it. I love it. 1156 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 2: It's cute. It's just like, yeah, you have to open 1157 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 2: up a dogschuts. 1158 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: I know, I'm like in love with her. I am 1159 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 1: a like older dog who's nine. She's literally me as 1160 01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 1: a dog, and I'm I'm obsessed with her. She's the 1161 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 1: most adorable dog ever. She's literal human. But then I 1162 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 1: have this puppy that Lena and I adopted from Nashville, 1163 01:00:55,280 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: and she's like she was abandoned and she was like 1164 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: it was a horrible story and it really like pulled 1165 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 1: at my heart strings and I was like, okay, I 1166 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,800 Speaker 1: need to take you home now, like I will take 1167 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: care of you. I love you. And like watching her 1168 01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 1: grow up and being responsible for her, I think has 1169 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: been very refreshing to me because my older dog, she's 1170 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, she's very self sufficient. She's also very lazy. 1171 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,000 Speaker 1: So I'll be up in the morning and she'll wake 1172 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: up two hours later ready to be fed like she 1173 01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 1: is not. She has her own schedule and I love 1174 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: that about her because that's how I raise her. She's 1175 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: a very like laid back dog. I can have all 1176 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: the lights on and she's sleeping, like I love that. 1177 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 1: But this puppy, you know, you have to train her. 1178 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 1: You have to It's very specific, and these formative puppy 1179 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 1: years are so important to who this dog becomes. There's 1180 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: no bad dogs, there's only bad dog owners. So I 1181 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: just like am loving this journey of truly because you know, 1182 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,000 Speaker 1: I got my dog nine years ago. I was ten. 1183 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't actually raising her, and now I'm getting the 1184 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: chance to raise a dog, and it's really really exciting 1185 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 1: and special, and seeing the two of them together is 1186 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: like my favorite thing ever. I think something else that 1187 01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited for is I have a dance room in 1188 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: my garage, So I love just going down there any 1189 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: time of the day, whether it's four in the morning 1190 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: or one pm, and just like letting go and being 1191 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: open with myself and using movement as therapy and also 1192 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: getting a little bit of a workout in, you know, 1193 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: like being productive. I love that, and probably experimenting more 1194 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,440 Speaker 1: with my style. That's something that I've just recently started 1195 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: to get into. I think Landon and my sister had 1196 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,920 Speaker 1: a lot to do with that, because I love the 1197 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 1: way that they put together outfits. I think that they 1198 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: both have really good styles and it comes very natural 1199 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: to them, and to me it's a lot harder because 1200 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,560 Speaker 1: I always go for what I know instead of stepping 1201 01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: out of the box. But I'm trying. So that's something 1202 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,360 Speaker 1: exciting and it's fun to experiment, you know. 1203 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love how personal old as well. Those great 1204 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 2: there are great choices. Yeah. I love how none of 1205 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,160 Speaker 2: them were career related and like none of them will 1206 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 2: work related. And that's awesome because I can tell that 1207 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 2: you've really start carving those two things as separate. 1208 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, work wise, you know, using my voice more online, 1209 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, even doing a podcast is 1210 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: something very outside of my comfort zone. A lot of 1211 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,240 Speaker 1: my career has been not talking, so it's been very 1212 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: hard for me to get into using my voice and 1213 01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: figuring out what do I want to say, Especially when 1214 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: you don't know yourself, how do you answer questions I 1215 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 1: don't You can't say I don't know for everything. So 1216 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 1: that's something that's been special and I've been trying to 1217 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 1: make more content for my fans and trying to use 1218 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: my voice more and like even little things finishing and 1219 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,439 Speaker 1: get ready with me, which I film fifty of them 1220 01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,400 Speaker 1: and I post one of them, like trying to get 1221 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,080 Speaker 1: more into it and go back to the reason why 1222 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 1: I started social media because I like it and I'm 1223 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 1: finally at a point where I like it again, which 1224 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 1: is really refreshing and nice. It doesn't feel like work. 1225 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,439 Speaker 2: I love that. And what's been what is that when 1226 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 2: you say you want to use your voice and even 1227 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 2: doing the podcast today, like you coming on today and 1228 01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 2: you know, being open and trusting me and trusting this 1229 01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,240 Speaker 2: space and just being vulnerable with the idea of like 1230 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 2: you said, I don't know, I'm trying to figure out 1231 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 2: who I am, Yeah, and being okay with that, which 1232 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:31,840 Speaker 2: I think, by the way, for a nineteen year old 1233 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 2: is completely normal and wonderful and good, and like, I 1234 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,600 Speaker 2: think that's amazing that you want to spend this time 1235 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 2: in your life figuring out who you are. I think 1236 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 2: it's the best investment you could ever make. I'm so 1237 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,800 Speaker 2: happy that you're doing it, and I'm hoping that you 1238 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 2: take your whole audience and community on a journey to 1239 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,760 Speaker 2: do it for themselves because you're going to save so 1240 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 2: many people from so many stressful twenty to thirty year 1241 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,840 Speaker 2: old journeys. Right like literally, like you can either do 1242 01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,880 Speaker 2: it now or you can do it when you're thirty, 1243 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 2: And if you do it now, it's that you can 1244 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,280 Speaker 2: help so many people. What is that kind of like 1245 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 2: when you say using your voice, is that the type 1246 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,120 Speaker 2: of journey you want people to go on with you? 1247 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 2: Or are you? Are you still figuring out what that 1248 01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 2: journey it is that you want people to go on 1249 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 2: with you. 1250 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, as of right now, it's literally just talking talking online, 1251 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: just actually using my voice. You know, for so long 1252 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:29,080 Speaker 1: it was a song and no words, Like it sounds 1253 01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:33,240 Speaker 1: so little bit just talking. I feel like that's something 1254 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 1: that is which is so weird, but it's so outside 1255 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: of my comfort zone and I feel so like weird 1256 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,600 Speaker 1: doing it, but has honestly been really refreshing for me 1257 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm growing up and a part of 1258 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: growing up is being confident with what you have to 1259 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 1: say and using your words and just talking with you know, 1260 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of purpose. And I'm growing up, but 1261 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: also so are all of the people that are watching me, 1262 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 1: and I think bringing them on that journey of this 1263 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,160 Speaker 1: is literally just what I'm doing. I'm not talking about 1264 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:19,400 Speaker 1: anything that's really of any importance. Sometimes sometimes I'm just talking. 1265 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 1: But that's what I need to do to move to 1266 01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: this next step of my life, to hopefully talk about 1267 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,160 Speaker 1: something important and talk about what matters to me. I 1268 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:31,040 Speaker 1: think that that's this is a very integral step of 1269 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: growing up. 1270 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 2: I think that's really smart. I genuinely do. I think 1271 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 2: that takes a lot of courage to even say that. 1272 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,000 Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think it's like insignificant 1273 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 2: at all. I think it makes a lot of sense 1274 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 2: to me that in order for you to stand for something, 1275 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 2: you need to get to a point where you just 1276 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 2: feel comfortable being open and sharing. 1277 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so much of the beginning few years of 1278 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 1: this journey, every time I talked, someone had something to say, 1279 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 1: and you know, you get canceled every five seconds. Like 1280 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: that was what was happening to me for so long 1281 01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: any time I opened my mouth. So I just stop talking. 1282 01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,160 Speaker 1: I stopped saying anything that was important to me. I 1283 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: stopped doing anything that was outside of the box that 1284 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,520 Speaker 1: I was put in where I couldn't go wrong if 1285 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 1: I just didn't do anything, you know. Yeah, and I 1286 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 1: have opinions, I have thoughts. I have things I like, 1287 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 1: I have things I don't like. Why can't I just 1288 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 1: say it? Like? Who is stopping me? The people that 1289 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 1: actually care what I have to say, They're going to 1290 01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 1: support me even if they disagree. You know, whether it's 1291 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: I really like this outfit and they don't like, that's cool. 1292 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: They respect my opinion. I respect theirs, That's awesome. The 1293 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 1: people that don't like me, they're not gonna like me 1294 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: no matter what. They didn't like me when I wasn't 1295 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,640 Speaker 1: saying anything. They're not gonna like me now. That's fine. 1296 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not making my videos for them. 1297 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. When you say you still want to get 1298 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 2: to know who you are and your identity, what are 1299 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 2: the pots that you're like, I'm still just trying to 1300 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:03,840 Speaker 2: figure this out at this point. I'm like really curious 1301 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,600 Speaker 2: about I'm trying to learn about this about myself. But 1302 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 2: I don't like, what are those parts of yourself? 1303 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think a lot of it has to do 1304 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 1: with the way that I present myself. Whether it's how 1305 01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,840 Speaker 1: do I like my makeup done? How do I like 1306 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 1: to dress? How do I like to look? How do 1307 01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 1: I like to show myself to other people? Not just 1308 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,640 Speaker 1: what is going on at the moment. How do I 1309 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:32,439 Speaker 1: like to smell? 1310 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:32,760 Speaker 2: You know? 1311 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 1: I like Bourn Dreamer? I know I like that, And 1312 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: let's discover for future with Bourne Dreamer. What else do 1313 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:39,679 Speaker 1: I like? You know? Whatever? 1314 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 2: I know? 1315 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: I like go a little bit deeper and you know, 1316 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,160 Speaker 1: something so simple. I've been doing more colors with my nails, 1317 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 1: which is so random and so small. It's your nails. 1318 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: You know, people get their nails in all the time. 1319 01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 1: But I did bright green and I thought about that 1320 01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,120 Speaker 1: for three weeks before I did it, and like why 1321 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,360 Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I like the color. I wanted it 1322 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,200 Speaker 1: on my nails. It made me happy every time I 1323 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 1: saw them. I was like, I did that. That was 1324 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 1: something different I normally do nude. Let's do something fun 1325 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,439 Speaker 1: like that little thing was so much fun for me 1326 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,679 Speaker 1: and it brought me so much happiness. And I would 1327 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 1: match this color to this and it's just so fun. 1328 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: Why am I robbing myself a fun because I don't 1329 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: want to put myself out there? 1330 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, good for you. I honestly like you're literally doing 1331 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,480 Speaker 2: all the practical steps that it takes to build your values. Thereah, 1332 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 2: and that's what it is. All of these little habits. 1333 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,280 Speaker 2: For anyone who's listening, all these little habits and these 1334 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 2: little changes that you're making, they turn into values that 1335 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 2: you appreciate about yourself. So a value could be and 1336 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 2: I'm not putting a value on you, I'm just throwing 1337 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,639 Speaker 2: it out there is for a reflection. But a value 1338 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 2: could be I like freedom, or I like self expression, 1339 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,240 Speaker 2: or I like random can be a value or whatever 1340 01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 2: it may be and like and then those values become 1341 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 2: things you can use in the future for how you 1342 01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 2: make decisions. Yeah, now when you make so my values 1343 01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,040 Speaker 2: has always been to take risks. I feel like I 1344 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 2: took risks ever since I was fourteen, eighteen, twenty one, 1345 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 2: and I've noticed that pattern in my life. And so 1346 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 2: now when I'm taking a risk, I'm not that scared 1347 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,800 Speaker 2: anymore because I've always taken risks my whole life. And 1348 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,320 Speaker 2: I love how when I first took a risk, I 1349 01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,080 Speaker 2: didn't even know what a risk was like. When I 1350 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,639 Speaker 2: was fourteen years old or eighteen, I just did it. 1351 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 2: And now when I look back, I'm like, oh no, 1352 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,160 Speaker 2: that's a skill I have now. And so it's almost 1353 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 2: like when you're doing all these things, you're just collecting 1354 01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 2: lots of different skills and then one day they'll evolve 1355 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 2: into values which will form an identity, and then you'll 1356 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 2: be able to be like, these are the three things 1357 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 2: that I value and that really matter to me. And 1358 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 2: you know, I love that. I love how simple you've 1359 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 2: made it for yourself, and I love how you've broken 1360 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 2: it down because I think a lot of us try 1361 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 2: to like leap frogs, like this is who I am now, 1362 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 2: and we almost want the performance part before the work part. 1363 01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 2: And it's like, I feel like you're doing the work part. Yeah, 1364 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,759 Speaker 2: And it's great to work, great to see. Thank you, Johnie. 1365 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,160 Speaker 2: What if I not asked you about that? You're like, 1366 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:04,559 Speaker 2: I really want to share this. So this has been 1367 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 2: on my heart, on my mind, or like something you 1368 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,640 Speaker 2: want to talk about it. You're like, this is what 1369 01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 2: I want to use my voice for. You haven't asked 1370 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 2: me about it, or it just didn't come up. 1371 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: Something for me that I think is very interesting, which 1372 01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,639 Speaker 1: is very random and has nothing to do with my career, 1373 01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,599 Speaker 1: my personal life or anything. I love the San Diego 1374 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Safari Park, which is so random, but I've recently found 1375 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 1: I watched this whole video on it, this like very 1376 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 1: specific thing that you have to go through a lot 1377 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 1: of steps to be able to get it for like 1378 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,480 Speaker 1: a zoo or aquarium or anything. But it's a certificate 1379 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 1: that shows if it's humane to the animals. And learning 1380 01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,840 Speaker 1: about that has been really interesting because I love going 1381 01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 1: there and I love how free the animals are and 1382 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 1: how it's just like they are in the wild, and 1383 01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 1: how they help the animals, and that's definitely something that 1384 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 1: I want to get more into, is like figuring out 1385 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,559 Speaker 1: exactly what it is and going to more places like that, 1386 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 1: and you know, not appreciating place is like SeaWorld that 1387 01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 1: treat their animals horribly, you know, like little things like 1388 01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 1: that that I think is so interesting because I love animals, 1389 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 1: So that was something I need to find the name 1390 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: of exactly what that little like thing is, but it's 1391 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 1: really cool and like to get that, you have to 1392 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: go through a lot of work, and every place is 1393 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 1: constantly trying to outdo each other, so the bar is 1394 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 1: constantly being raised, which I think is so interesting. 1395 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 2: How they treat the animals and they have to pass 1396 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 2: a certain number of right right, right, Well, yeah, so. 1397 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 1: That's really cool and something random that I. 1398 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,639 Speaker 2: Decide, right, I love. Yeah. Yeah. My wife's a big 1399 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 2: fan of visiting animals as much as we can, and 1400 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 2: so she's she's kind of always led that and we've 1401 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 2: gone to some of the randommest places in LA because 1402 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,839 Speaker 2: of her. But her relationship with animals is really beautiful 1403 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,519 Speaker 2: and she can like you know, start a relationship with yah. Yeah, 1404 01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 2: and it's really special to watch. And it's really interesting 1405 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,439 Speaker 2: because we went to a couple last year and she'd 1406 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,639 Speaker 2: always come back really like even more calm and even 1407 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,519 Speaker 2: more just still and and I And it was really 1408 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,400 Speaker 2: beautiful to see just how when you're connected to nature 1409 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 2: and we are nature and you know we're a part 1410 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 2: of that, but now we feel so disconnected from it. Yeah, 1411 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 2: but animals are such a great way of reconnecting. What 1412 01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 2: do you find I guess fulfilling or meaningful about being? 1413 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 2: Obviously your dogs, but with these animals, like what is 1414 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 2: it about it for you specifically that you appreciate about it? 1415 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:27,040 Speaker 1: I think it's just so peaceful and to learn so 1416 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,479 Speaker 1: much Like when you go to these places, I will 1417 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,559 Speaker 1: come back only talking about animal facts for like a 1418 01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:36,519 Speaker 1: month and I love it. And sometimes people are like, 1419 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 1: that's like, where did you even come. 1420 01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:39,559 Speaker 2: Up with that? 1421 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 1: But I think it's so cool and so interesting to 1422 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 1: see all these animals and with each other and how 1423 01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,720 Speaker 1: they respond to things. And I love places where it's like, 1424 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: if they're out and you see them, that's great. If not, 1425 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,640 Speaker 1: they don't feel like being out, that's just how it is. 1426 01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:00,439 Speaker 1: I just think it's so interesting. And I literally I've 1427 01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,759 Speaker 1: been to the San Diego Safari twice and the first 1428 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 1: time talked about animal facts for like two months. The 1429 01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,400 Speaker 1: second time I leading up to going, that was all 1430 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 1: I could talk about, and I brought. I got so 1431 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,000 Speaker 1: many other people excited about because I like, but you 1432 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 1: don't understand how cool it is, Like you are twenty 1433 01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 1: feet away from a cheetah with like there's no big 1434 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,200 Speaker 1: fence up, you know, Like it's crazy just to see 1435 01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:33,640 Speaker 1: these animals just living, not worried about anything that is 1436 01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: so materialistic or anything like that. I don't know. I 1437 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 1: just find so much joy in it. 1438 01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. Have you been to anywhere in Africa? 1439 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,640 Speaker 1: I haven't, and I really want to go. I've like, 1440 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 1: I've seen so many videos, and so many of my 1441 01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,759 Speaker 1: friends have gone, and it just seems so cool. 1442 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've talked about this before in the podcast, but 1443 01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying it because it's natural in our conversation. I 1444 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:58,040 Speaker 2: went to Rwanda last year, Wow, and Rwanda of Revere's Gorillaz. 1445 01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,719 Speaker 2: So literally, every time there's a new gorilla in Rwanda 1446 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,040 Speaker 2: that the community comes together and they name it and 1447 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,759 Speaker 2: they have this whole ceremony for it. And so they've 1448 01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,760 Speaker 2: had these gorilla sanctuaries for years and so same as 1449 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:12,679 Speaker 2: what you're saying, there's no fences or walls or whatever. 1450 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 2: It's basically the mountains and you take treks into the 1451 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 2: mountains and you discover gorilla and their natural habitat, and 1452 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,720 Speaker 2: there's families. So we followed. I went three days, and 1453 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,640 Speaker 2: one of the days we discovered a family that had 1454 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:26,800 Speaker 2: like twenty gorillas in it, and then we discovered another 1455 01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:28,320 Speaker 2: one and you get to see the babies and the 1456 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 2: adduts and it was easily one of my favorite things 1457 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 2: I've done in my entire life. And it was just 1458 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 2: the most magical experience because you're truly in nature. The 1459 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 2: animals are in their habitat, so you're going into their 1460 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 2: home and they're gonna They're so respectful and let you 1461 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,639 Speaker 2: do your thing, and at the same time you get 1462 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,120 Speaker 2: to learn about them in this really intimate way. It 1463 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 2: was beautiful to just see how they took care of 1464 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,559 Speaker 2: the kids, how the kids played around, how they were 1465 01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,880 Speaker 2: defensive if we got too close, like just everything about them. 1466 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 2: And the guides that we had said that you can 1467 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 2: also go and walk, So this was walking with gorillas, 1468 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,200 Speaker 2: but they said you could go walk with elephants too, 1469 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 2: and me and my wife have been talking about doing that. 1470 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 2: We're like, I'd love to go walk with elephants, Like 1471 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 2: how cool would that be? And yeah, there's all these 1472 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 2: incredible experiences out there, and you know, whether it's a 1473 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:18,040 Speaker 2: local safari or whether it's being able to go there, 1474 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah and have this experience. I definitely feel and my 1475 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,040 Speaker 2: other team, someone of my team's been talking about going 1476 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,760 Speaker 2: to see the Great Migration, which is what so the 1477 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 2: easy version of it. I'm giving a very bad explanation, 1478 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 2: but just to make it relatable for everyone, It's basically 1479 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,440 Speaker 2: what happens in the Lion King when all the wilderbeast 1480 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 2: like running across like, so that's the Great Migration. Where 1481 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 2: they're like stampeding across the stampede where the fast unfortunately dies. 1482 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,000 Speaker 2: Like that moment is what the great migration is, and 1483 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 2: it happens every single Year's so yeah, anyway, I'm getting 1484 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:49,519 Speaker 2: carried away too. 1485 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,680 Speaker 1: But no, I mean it's so easy to Yeah, it 1486 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 1: really is. 1487 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's magical to think that these things exist 1488 01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 2: and you can go and witness them or even whilst 1489 01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,960 Speaker 2: they're online or on the documentary whatever. You know. 1490 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 1: Well, at the San Diego Safari, they're literally like with 1491 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 1: the Southern hight rhinos and the Northern hight rhinos, it's 1492 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 1: like one of them is going extinct and they're literally 1493 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,920 Speaker 1: figuring out through stem cells, like how to bring it back. 1494 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:16,840 Speaker 1: It's so so wild and so interesting and hearing these 1495 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 1: people talk about it and all of the steps they're 1496 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:26,000 Speaker 1: going through with scientists and zoologists and literally everyone to help, 1497 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, bring back this species of rhinos. It's like, 1498 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,640 Speaker 1: this is so cool and has nothing to do with 1499 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,680 Speaker 1: anything that I do in my normal, everyday life. But 1500 01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 1: how interesting is that to just hear and see and 1501 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,680 Speaker 1: like what that's crazy? But I don't know, I just 1502 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,240 Speaker 1: think that that's so cool. 1503 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:48,120 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, and I hope you 1504 01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,720 Speaker 2: just keep pursuing and following all of these things that 1505 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 2: using a cool and you know, you're it's not that 1506 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,439 Speaker 2: you don't know yourself. I wouldn't say that you don't 1507 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 2: know who you are. I just say that you're you're 1508 01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 2: firmly on that path. Yeah, you're on that path of 1509 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 2: self discovery, and you're doing it a perfect time in 1510 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,280 Speaker 2: your life, and you're taking every one of the right steps. 1511 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 2: Like you know, it's not that you don't know who 1512 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 2: you are or you're confused, You're just you're just taking 1513 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:13,680 Speaker 2: those steps and all of it's going to become more 1514 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 2: and more clear as you continue to take more steps. So, yeah, 1515 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 2: thank you for sharing the this part of the journey 1516 01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,120 Speaker 2: with me, because I'm hoping that in a few years 1517 01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 2: time you come out and then you'll be like Jay, 1518 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:27,160 Speaker 2: I figured this out and. 1519 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,840 Speaker 1: These are all of my favorite things that I've decided. 1520 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hope and I hope they'll change again. 1521 01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 2: And you know, I but I'm glad that you came 1522 01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 2: and shared this part because this is the hardest part 1523 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 2: to share when you're not sure and you're figuring it out. 1524 01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,679 Speaker 2: And I'm glad that we had the opportunity to capture 1525 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 2: that today. Yeah, and I'm really really appreciate you sharing 1526 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:51,439 Speaker 2: that with people because it is the hardest part to 1527 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,360 Speaker 2: share when you're like, I don't know. 1528 01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 1: I'm not quite there, but this is where I am now. 1529 01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie, thank you so much. No, thank you coming 1530 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,680 Speaker 2: on the show today. And we end every episode with 1531 01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,760 Speaker 2: a final five, and these I'm going to totally ruin 1532 01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 2: these because I enjoy doing that. But you're meant to 1533 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,519 Speaker 2: answer them in one word to one sentence maximum, but 1534 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,920 Speaker 2: I will probably ask you to expand because they always 1535 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,880 Speaker 2: lead to more thoughtful answers. So all right, Charlie, these 1536 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 2: are your final five. The first question is what is 1537 01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,439 Speaker 2: the best advice you've ever heard, or received or even 1538 01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 2: given to someone. 1539 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:27,240 Speaker 1: This is probably the only thing that keeps me sane, 1540 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,679 Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad. Everything happens for a reason. 1541 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,320 Speaker 1: You can't control. 1542 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,600 Speaker 2: It, and that's something you hold on to it. 1543 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:38,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, it makes me feel like I'm not going crazy. 1544 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,880 Speaker 2: When have you used that the most you can explain? 1545 01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,839 Speaker 1: I mean, when I feel like I have no idea 1546 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,760 Speaker 1: what to do next, where I feel like everything's coming 1547 01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,599 Speaker 1: crashing down, this is important because it's helping me get 1548 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,479 Speaker 1: to the next step of my life. And as much 1549 01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:57,160 Speaker 1: as this sucks right now, I need it and some 1550 01:19:57,240 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 1: of the worst parts where I feel like I'm at 1551 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 1: an all time low, that helped me get to that 1552 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,000 Speaker 1: next step. So next time I'm feeling like that, I 1553 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 1: know how to. I know, first I can get myself 1554 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 1: out of it, and second that you know, maybe it's 1555 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,599 Speaker 1: not that big of a deal and a year I'm 1556 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:15,760 Speaker 1: not even going to remember it. 1557 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely love that, all right. Second question, what's the worst 1558 01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 2: advice you've ever heard or received? 1559 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:27,759 Speaker 1: Probably that I need to say yes to everything because 1560 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,880 Speaker 1: you don't know when this is going to end. Sometimes 1561 01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 1: you just need to say no and take that time 1562 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:33,480 Speaker 1: for yourself. 1563 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,599 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought that up. So many young 1564 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 2: creators here. 1565 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 1: That overwhelm themselves, and it's you're doing a disservice to yourself. 1566 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,360 Speaker 1: Give yourself time to figure out who you are. 1567 01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,680 Speaker 2: And I think you're so right. Like I've said this 1568 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:55,200 Speaker 2: to a lot of people too, that it will only 1569 01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:57,880 Speaker 2: end when you want it to, Like nothing can end 1570 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,559 Speaker 2: if you're if you're alive and you're creating and your building, 1571 01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 2: like things just don't end and I think we use 1572 01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 2: the end as a scarcity tactic or a fear tactic 1573 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 2: to get more out of someone or to get the 1574 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,519 Speaker 2: most out of it right now, not realizing that someone 1575 01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,320 Speaker 2: could take a break for three years if that's what 1576 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,720 Speaker 2: they wanted to do, and come back even stronger and 1577 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 2: bigger and better and whatever. Yeah. And I just don't 1578 01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,800 Speaker 2: think we allow people to have that space. And I 1579 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,439 Speaker 2: think it's really unhealthy for anyone to think that if 1580 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm not don't do this, I'm going to be irrelevant 1581 01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,840 Speaker 2: or whatever. It's like, Actually, if you're an artist, you 1582 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,320 Speaker 2: could take time out and come back in years from 1583 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:34,680 Speaker 2: now and create a masterpiece. 1584 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the first like three years of my career, 1585 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 1: all anyone was saying was it could be over like that, 1586 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,840 Speaker 1: no one's going to care about you. And I spent 1587 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,519 Speaker 1: so much time. When is it going to end? Everyone 1588 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 1: keeps telling me it's going to end, Like do I 1589 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,800 Speaker 1: want it to end? Maybe I want it to end. 1590 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,479 Speaker 1: Maybe I want to break and it just to all 1591 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,360 Speaker 1: be over and go back to my normal life. I've 1592 01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:00,679 Speaker 1: taken breaks, i've taken step backs, I've done everything that 1593 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 1: was coming to me at the moment, and it's like 1594 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,040 Speaker 1: letting whether the people that are watching you are gonna 1595 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 1: stay or leave dictate every move you make. Those people 1596 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 1: that really care about you, they're not just gonna leave 1597 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,800 Speaker 1: if you stop posting for a month or a week 1598 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:22,880 Speaker 1: or however long. Like put your own mental state first. 1599 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because if you don't put your mental state first, 1600 01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:27,840 Speaker 2: then it's definitely gonna go away. 1601 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna get burnt out, and then no one's 1602 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:30,439 Speaker 1: gonna care. 1603 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,680 Speaker 2: Because you don't care exactly, or you're not gonna be 1604 01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 2: able to put anything like you know, And if you 1605 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,040 Speaker 2: look at that perspective, it's like, yeah, you just keep 1606 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,720 Speaker 2: pushing and pushing and pushing. Yeah, you lose yourself and 1607 01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 2: then you have nothing to share and then you've definitely, 1608 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,640 Speaker 2: you know, lost out. No, really really great answer. I 1609 01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:49,320 Speaker 2: love that question. Number three, What is the craziest room 1610 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,160 Speaker 2: as you've heard about yourself? One that made you laugh 1611 01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:53,559 Speaker 2: and one that made you cry. 1612 01:22:53,960 --> 01:23:00,639 Speaker 1: Ones that make me laugh are probably the ones where 1613 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 1: I'll like, I'll seem super I'll see like blind items 1614 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:11,040 Speaker 1: about myself and it's like she did this crazy thing 1615 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:14,160 Speaker 1: at this party and it was wild and and I 1616 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:16,720 Speaker 1: was like, didn't even go to a party that's so 1617 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 1: like like where did you guys? I was here and there. 1618 01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:23,280 Speaker 1: So those ones always make me laugh and they're like 1619 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 1: so not true and be like, Okay, it's crazy. 1620 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny you said about not being at the party. Like, 1621 01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 2: So I officiated Ben and Jen's wedding last year, and 1622 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,519 Speaker 2: there was a guest list that was printed, and the 1623 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,080 Speaker 2: guest list just had everyone's name on and everyone was 1624 01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 2: like asking me like, oh, did you see this person? 1625 01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 2: Do you see this one? I was like, they weren't there. Yeah, 1626 01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,600 Speaker 2: it was a really private wedding. Yeah, but it's like 1627 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 2: everyone assumes that all these people were there now that 1628 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 2: all these magazines had printed it. Everyone assumes that it 1629 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 2: was just this big celebrity wedding. It's like what it 1630 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:01,240 Speaker 2: wasn't it was just really friends and family. It just 1631 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:02,519 Speaker 2: makes you laugh like, yeah. 1632 01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:04,560 Speaker 1: You guys pulled this out of nowhere. 1633 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,640 Speaker 2: Nowhere, Like it was just crazy to me. I was like, 1634 01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:08,640 Speaker 2: how do you make this up? Like you know? And 1635 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,840 Speaker 2: so there was no official guest list printed externally. Yeah 1636 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,080 Speaker 2: all right? Uh yeah. And then one that kind of 1637 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,439 Speaker 2: like got to you, or if there was one that 1638 01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,519 Speaker 2: like made you more emotional, well, things that make you 1639 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 2: more emotional generally. 1640 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 1: Things that make me more emotional are definitely ones that 1641 01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:29,640 Speaker 1: try to display my character in a way where you know, 1642 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 1: I I don't want to defend everything that I do. 1643 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to defend every rumor that comes out 1644 01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:40,080 Speaker 1: about me. But it's like to think that people think 1645 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm capable of doing these things that you know are 1646 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:50,000 Speaker 1: sometimes so horrible or you know there, especially when I 1647 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 1: was like sixteen, sixteen was really hard for me, and 1648 01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,679 Speaker 1: I would hear these grown adults every single day, Charlie 1649 01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 1: did Charlie did that, Charlie did this. I literally it 1650 01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,680 Speaker 1: was actually right when I hit one hundred million. I 1651 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,400 Speaker 1: think I was at the lowest mental state possible, and 1652 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:14,160 Speaker 1: I looked so happy online, and it got to the 1653 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:17,120 Speaker 1: point where I was I was like, I'm not doing 1654 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:22,040 Speaker 1: this anymore, Like I physically cannot do this. Like it 1655 01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,720 Speaker 1: got really dark to where I was like, I don't 1656 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:27,479 Speaker 1: even want to be here anymore. And I think back 1657 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:31,080 Speaker 1: to those times and the grown adults that put sixteen 1658 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,680 Speaker 1: year old me in that mindset, and I'm just like, like, 1659 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:41,280 Speaker 1: you guys have kids now, like you guys are are grown, 1660 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,760 Speaker 1: And first of all, never gotten an apology through a 1661 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 1: direct message, never got an apology or anything besides if 1662 01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 1: it was for other people or that they want something 1663 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 1: from me, And I just like I wish that they 1664 01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,719 Speaker 1: could see what they did to me and how truly 1665 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,800 Speaker 1: horrible they treated me, and like what if that was 1666 01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 1: your kid? What if that was you? How would you feel? 1667 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 1: And like, I'm so proud of myself for getting myself 1668 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:18,519 Speaker 1: through that, because that really, like depending on how I 1669 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,719 Speaker 1: responded to that, could have changed the trajectory of my life, 1670 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 1: whether I started to cope in unhealthy ways or or 1671 01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:31,840 Speaker 1: harmed myself or did something that you know, would make 1672 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:36,479 Speaker 1: these people feel bad. Like I'm just very glad that 1673 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,240 Speaker 1: I have the people around me and also got to 1674 01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,559 Speaker 1: give some credit to myself was able to get out 1675 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:41,800 Speaker 1: of that. 1676 01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,800 Speaker 2: I can't I mean even just hearing you talk about it, 1677 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:49,120 Speaker 2: like it feels so hard and heavy, and like I 1678 01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 2: can feel how intense it could have been, Like what 1679 01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 2: got you through that? Like what was it that? Because 1680 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:55,360 Speaker 2: at sixteen, I mean, you don't have a lot to 1681 01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,400 Speaker 2: pull on, Like what gets you through all of that? 1682 01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,519 Speaker 2: Especially being around you know now your family's more used 1683 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 2: to it, so everyone has a bit more. Yeah, it 1684 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 2: doesn't make it easier. Yeah, I'm not saying it makes 1685 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,840 Speaker 2: it easier, but people are more aware of it, Yeah 1686 01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 2: for sure. But at that time, it's like right at 1687 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:14,799 Speaker 2: the beginning, you know, it. 1688 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,880 Speaker 1: Was really hard for a long time, and especially at 1689 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,599 Speaker 1: that point, I showed myself in a very specific light 1690 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:27,080 Speaker 1: and didn't want to let anyone know what was getting 1691 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,439 Speaker 1: to me. And then I would go and cry on 1692 01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:34,080 Speaker 1: live And I think back to that, and I think 1693 01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,280 Speaker 1: it was the people that I had around me, Like 1694 01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,679 Speaker 1: it was getting to the point where like people were 1695 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,680 Speaker 1: coming to my house to check on me, like it 1696 01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,200 Speaker 1: was bad, and like, I don't know if these people 1697 01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 1: that did this, like I think they know who they are, 1698 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 1: but are ever going to see this? Like, first of all, 1699 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 1: I think I deserve an apology. Second of all, not 1700 01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,559 Speaker 1: that I need one because I'm content with how it 1701 01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:59,360 Speaker 1: happened whatever, But the fact that there's no accountability for 1702 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:02,320 Speaker 1: those people, but there was so much accountability for a 1703 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:06,280 Speaker 1: sixteen year old I think is so wild and there's 1704 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,400 Speaker 1: so like, honestly, the hardest stuff to deal with was 1705 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:13,439 Speaker 1: the people that were grown adults that were like just 1706 01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,960 Speaker 1: ripping on me every second of every day, like twenty 1707 01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,680 Speaker 1: videos like what I now look back and I'm so 1708 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,760 Speaker 1: disgusted by the fact that these people like thought that 1709 01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,680 Speaker 1: that was okay. It's so wild, and I'm just I'm 1710 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,519 Speaker 1: very thankful that I had my friends and my family 1711 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:38,599 Speaker 1: and enough in myself to want to get through it 1712 01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 1: and come out the other side and show these people 1713 01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 1: that they can't ruin me. And I have more to 1714 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,120 Speaker 1: show people than what I've done so far. 1715 01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,720 Speaker 2: That's so powerful and it's so no, it really is. 1716 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 2: It's so powerful to hear that, and it's and it 1717 01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,840 Speaker 2: breaks my heart hearing it too, because I totally get 1718 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 2: what you're saying in terms of just like when you 1719 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,160 Speaker 2: have kids. We live in a world that wants to 1720 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 2: prioritize mental health, but then when we take people apart, 1721 01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,600 Speaker 2: whether they made a mistake or not, yeah, we're not 1722 01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,519 Speaker 2: mindful of their mental health at all. Yeah, And it's 1723 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,080 Speaker 2: almost like if someone's made a mistake or maybe not 1724 01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,880 Speaker 2: even made a mistake, it's almost like, well, now we 1725 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,599 Speaker 2: don't have to treat them as if they have mental health, 1726 01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:23,519 Speaker 2: yeah at all. 1727 01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,759 Speaker 1: Or it's like people loved me because I wasn't perfect 1728 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,839 Speaker 1: and I was authentic, but then any time I would 1729 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:33,040 Speaker 1: mix up my words or make a mistake or do 1730 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,280 Speaker 1: anything outside of what was okay for these people, it 1731 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,240 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well I hate her and everyone should 1732 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 1: hate her and she's a horrible person because of this. 1733 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, but what did I do? Like 1734 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,800 Speaker 1: it was so hard to come to terms of the 1735 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,800 Speaker 1: fact that so many people hated me and I was 1736 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,800 Speaker 1: just doing my best. I was like, but I don't 1737 01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,200 Speaker 1: get it, Like all I do is try to please 1738 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,720 Speaker 1: everyone around me, and they're not, like how do I 1739 01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:06,960 Speaker 1: do this? I'm never gonna win, And you know that's 1740 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,439 Speaker 1: really hard. Like I give myself so much credit for 1741 01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:14,360 Speaker 1: how I handled this stuff the best way I knew 1742 01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 1: how like so wild. 1743 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,040 Speaker 2: If you ever doubt how tough you are, you just 1744 01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,559 Speaker 2: got to remember sixteen years oh Charlie, because she was 1745 01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:27,160 Speaker 2: a beast. She so tough. Like that is really really intense. 1746 01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:30,000 Speaker 2: It was really really intense. How have you dealt with 1747 01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,720 Speaker 2: that feeling of like trying to keep everyone else? I 1748 01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:34,400 Speaker 2: know you've talked about it before, the idea of like 1749 01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,160 Speaker 2: trying to keep everyone else afloat and you want to 1750 01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,479 Speaker 2: kind of let go of that pressure. Do you feel 1751 01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:40,880 Speaker 2: like you've let go of it or do you feel 1752 01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:41,920 Speaker 2: like you're letting go of it? 1753 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,360 Speaker 1: I think I am in certain aspects, but also leaning 1754 01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:48,840 Speaker 1: into it a little, you know, like maybe not what 1755 01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,600 Speaker 1: the internet wants, but what does my family want? What 1756 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 1: do my friends want? What does my boyfriend want? You know, 1757 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 1: like those people, what do my true fans want? What 1758 01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,360 Speaker 1: do they want me to put out that and make 1759 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,000 Speaker 1: them happy? Because I'm doing it for these people, And 1760 01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,719 Speaker 1: maybe if I'm feeling a little bit burnt out right now, 1761 01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:11,000 Speaker 1: I really think back to, well, this is the reason 1762 01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:17,200 Speaker 1: that I started doing it, you know, but also understanding 1763 01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:21,080 Speaker 1: that I have to listen to myself and what I need. Yeah, 1764 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,880 Speaker 1: figuring out that balance, which I don't think i'll ever 1765 01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,479 Speaker 1: truly get the hang of because it's always changing, but 1766 01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 1: at least acknowledging it. 1767 01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,960 Speaker 2: All right. Question four and five. Last two questions. What's 1768 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,960 Speaker 2: something new that you're trying to learn this year or 1769 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,919 Speaker 2: something that a skill that you're trying to develop. 1770 01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:44,920 Speaker 1: I want to get better at packing and like traveling. Yeah, 1771 01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:48,679 Speaker 1: and it's such a stressor for me. Literally every single 1772 01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:51,200 Speaker 1: time before I leave for a trip, I will have 1773 01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:57,959 Speaker 1: a little mental breakdown, full like tears everything. It's a 1774 01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:04,400 Speaker 1: that's another control thing and a very obsessive, compulsive thing 1775 01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,439 Speaker 1: that I do because I like to have my stuff 1776 01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:08,360 Speaker 1: around me. I like to have my things. I like 1777 01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:12,160 Speaker 1: to have everything that I could possibly need. Like even 1778 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,839 Speaker 1: in my purse, I have everything that I could possibly 1779 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,360 Speaker 1: need for if I go on a three day vacation, like, 1780 01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,759 Speaker 1: it just causes me so much stress that I would 1781 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:25,000 Speaker 1: like to be able to take a overnight trip and 1782 01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,240 Speaker 1: just like pack and go without worrying so much. Like 1783 01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,280 Speaker 1: that would be the dream. 1784 01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great I think that's a great scale 1785 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,720 Speaker 2: that I wish everyone wants to add. Right, Definitely, there 1786 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,080 Speaker 2: are great package and they are a bad package. Yeah, 1787 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,360 Speaker 2: and I'm a bad packer for sure, And I get that. 1788 01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,120 Speaker 2: Do what my wife does. My wife just takes six suitcases, 1789 01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:42,519 Speaker 2: she says. 1790 01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,519 Speaker 1: Literally, my sister, she will go places pack like an 1791 01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:50,760 Speaker 1: hour before she's like only brought one shoe. Yeah, how 1792 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,720 Speaker 1: how do you do this? This is insane? 1793 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. I love it all right, great, Charlie. 1794 01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,679 Speaker 2: Final question, It is the final question. If you could, 1795 01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:01,639 Speaker 2: and you take your time with this, if you could 1796 01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:04,800 Speaker 2: create one rule or one law that everyone in the 1797 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,799 Speaker 2: world had to follow, what would it be. 1798 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:14,439 Speaker 1: Lead with empathy. Don't be so hard on every single thing, 1799 01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:19,679 Speaker 1: every situation, everything, no matter what. Like you never ever 1800 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:24,840 Speaker 1: know what someone's truly going through. Even you can ask 1801 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:26,479 Speaker 1: me what's wrong, and I could tell you one thing, 1802 01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,959 Speaker 1: and maybe deep down it's something else that I'm embarrassed 1803 01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:32,400 Speaker 1: to tell you about. Like you just never know the 1804 01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:36,040 Speaker 1: struggle that someone's dealing with when they're by themselves. So 1805 01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:39,920 Speaker 1: just be a little more empathetic. I feel like COVID really, 1806 01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,800 Speaker 1: you know, caused people to react fast. Just take a 1807 01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:49,400 Speaker 1: step back, you know, hear people out. Just calm down, 1808 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:51,519 Speaker 1: Calm down a little bit. 1809 01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so needed for ourselves and others. And it's 1810 01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,240 Speaker 2: amazing how many of us we will know we need 1811 01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:02,120 Speaker 2: that world. But it's almost like the system and society 1812 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,000 Speaker 2: and the way it works is set up to make 1813 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,880 Speaker 2: us not be that. Yeah, right, Like we all want that, 1814 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,200 Speaker 2: and we will say that, and then something happens in 1815 01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,040 Speaker 2: the press and then everyone jumps on it. 1816 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:14,679 Speaker 1: And I have to say that to myself too, keep 1817 01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,240 Speaker 1: yourself in check, you know. 1818 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,200 Speaker 2: Definitely, Charlie. I love how this conversation has been so 1819 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:23,920 Speaker 2: fun and deep. Yeah, and like random and unique, and 1820 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,240 Speaker 2: I love that because that's what all of us are, right. 1821 01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:28,519 Speaker 2: I think if you try and have a conversation that's 1822 01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 2: just deep or just cool or just whatever, it doesn't work. 1823 01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,000 Speaker 2: But when you just get to know someone three point sixty's, 1824 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,599 Speaker 2: it's a bit quirky, it's a bit funny. It's it 1825 01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,400 Speaker 2: was super thoughtful and insightful, and I'm so glad that 1826 01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,360 Speaker 2: it was truly you. I hope you felt that way. 1827 01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, this was refreshing for me. 1828 01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:46,040 Speaker 2: Good. I'm glad, and thank you so much for trusting 1829 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:49,200 Speaker 2: me and being here. And I'm so grateful. And everyone's 1830 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,880 Speaker 2: been listening or watching, whether you're walking your dogs, because 1831 01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:53,840 Speaker 2: I know you do that, whether you're at the gym, 1832 01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,920 Speaker 2: whether you're driving to and from work, or whether you're 1833 01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,400 Speaker 2: editing a video. Right now, I want to say thank 1834 01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:00,760 Speaker 2: you to you for Liz litening, and I hope that 1835 01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,759 Speaker 2: you're going to share your highlights of so many great insights, thoughts, 1836 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,599 Speaker 2: just reflections I think that Charlie shared with us today. 1837 01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,360 Speaker 2: Make sure you share the ones that stood out to you. 1838 01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,479 Speaker 2: Tag both me and Charlie as well, whether you using 1839 01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,840 Speaker 2: TikTok x or Instagram, because I love seeing what you 1840 01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:17,800 Speaker 2: related to and what you connected to. There were so 1841 01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,320 Speaker 2: many parts today I felt when I was listening, I 1842 01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,200 Speaker 2: was like, oh, I get that, Like I hear that, 1843 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:23,960 Speaker 2: and I want to know what you heard and what 1844 01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,600 Speaker 2: you understood and what you learned. Charlie, thank you so 1845 01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,719 Speaker 2: much again. I hope you'll come on many, many more times. 1846 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:33,479 Speaker 1: Yes for having me. Seriously, this is really nice to 1847 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,160 Speaker 1: be able to have the space to talk about anything. 1848 01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,200 Speaker 2: Well. You're always welcome. Thank you, always welcome. Thank you. 1849 01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 2: If you love this episode, you will also love my 1850 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 2: interview with Kendall Jenna on setting boundaries to increase happiness 1851 01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,000 Speaker 2: and healing You're inner child. 1852 01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,320 Speaker 1: You could be reading something that someone is saying about 1853 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:53,320 Speaker 1: you and being like, that is so unfair because that's 1854 01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,360 Speaker 1: not who I am and that really gets to me sometimes. 1855 01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,200 Speaker 1: But then looking at myself in the mirror and being like, 1856 01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,120 Speaker 1: but I know who I am. Why does any thing 1857 01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:00,639 Speaker 1: else matter