Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. You look awesome.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I got up super early to get ready
Speaker 2: for you today.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, like you have to do anything,
Speaker 1: you always look hot.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you' all. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I am in Florida right now. I have
Speaker 1: a flair for drama, don't we all. So I'm filming
Speaker 1: in the Everglades and I almost got alligator yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost my alligator.
Speaker 1: H huh. Well I slayed that bitch.
Speaker 2: So that's a very Everglades thing to do.
Speaker 1: Though, slay alligator.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like if you're in the Everglades and don't
Speaker 3: come across an alligator, then like think you.
Speaker 1: Weren't in the Everglades exactly. Yeah. I just offered it
Speaker 1: an apple. I told it to spit it in my mouth,
Speaker 1: and then we went on. That was so fun.
Speaker 2: That was iconic. Honestly, that was a really good time.
Speaker 3: Like even thinking back because it happened so long ago,
Speaker 3: but even like watching the clips back, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: that actually did happen.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So we're talking about House of Villains
Speaker 1: season two. If anyone doesn't know, Candy muse, you're on it. God,
Speaker 1: you're good on it. Okay, So House of Villains. Yes,
Speaker 1: So I was asked to do an episode of House
Speaker 1: of Villains, and I was super excited. Now, mind you
Speaker 1: anyone that has seen this episode. I was given no backstory.
Speaker 1: They were just like, you're going to play the teacher
Speaker 1: and give them, you know, an assignment and they're competing.
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, and I kind of
Speaker 1: just created a little sexy teacher. What was I dominatrix.
Speaker 3: Teacher, a dominatrix fanell sexy like detention teacher moment, but
Speaker 3: also like you can be the substitute, like very all
Speaker 3: in that world.
Speaker 1: You said sub Yes, So I don't even know if
Speaker 1: you guys know, but I like I improvised all that,
Speaker 1: Like I had no idea what was happening, but I
Speaker 1: loved that stuff. Yeah, you obviously you're great at that stuff.
Speaker 1: So the apple was that your idea or they gave
Speaker 1: you the apple?
Speaker 3: No, you know, right before we filmed going into the school,
Speaker 3: production was like, hey, we have an apple, And in
Speaker 3: my mind I thought, Okay, because we're competing, this apple
Speaker 3: could mean maybe I can save someone off of the
Speaker 3: hit list. So I was gonna say, Camilla, I don't
Speaker 3: know what it means. I was like, I'll got the apple,
Speaker 3: give it to me. And they were like, here's the apple.
Speaker 3: You'll know what to do with it when it's time.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh God, that was it. But
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, So I was like, maybe this
Speaker 3: is an immunity apple. You know it's gonna be great,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't. It was much better than an immunity apple.
Speaker 3: So obviously when you were giving out the calling out
Speaker 3: our names, yes, attendance there. I haven't been in school
Speaker 3: in so long. Yeah, I was like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: the perfect time for the apple. Absolutely, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And in my mind I'm always like it's always like
Speaker 1: a movie or something. In my head, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: even though I wasn't competing, I'm like, is this a trick?
Speaker 1: Is the apple? Like thinking back to like fairy tales,
Speaker 1: fuck fairy tales like snow white? I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: is it a poisonous apple? And I'm not even a
Speaker 1: part of it, And I'm like putting myself in the
Speaker 1: in your world competing. But I was like, oh, so
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to make Andy take a bite of
Speaker 1: it first to see if you'd be like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: because it was like something. And then I don't know,
Speaker 1: I think I just wanted to kiss you, so I'm
Speaker 1: like just spin in my mouth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think all the all the boys in the
Speaker 3: class were jealous.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I didn't expect that date to walk into a high
Speaker 3: school and spin an apple and kiss story spelling, but
Speaker 3: it happened, and I think it made one of the
Speaker 3: more iconic moments.
Speaker 2: On How Civilians this season. I think people were.
Speaker 3: People first of all, when the clip went on line
Speaker 3: and people were going wild.
Speaker 2: Which I live for because I love iconic moments.
Speaker 3: And like, you know what Tory smelling is right here
Speaker 3: in her fucking seven inches seven inch for Sati heels,
Speaker 3: you know, just like looking the most delicious, Like why not?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 1: My gosh, I love that. You think I was wearing Forsauchi.
Speaker 1: They were like forty dollars heels from Dolls Killed. But
Speaker 1: you know, if you can wear it, fake it, Tea,
Speaker 1: you make it, and then when you make it, you
Speaker 1: still fake it. But yeah, that was all that was
Speaker 1: my outfit. Don't ask how I had that in my closet.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you later, but yeah, those heels.
Speaker 2: Hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've really soft lipped by the way, but
Speaker 1: yeah that I was like when that happened, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, did this because I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: And I was like, I didn't know who was going
Speaker 1: to be on the show. They didn't tell me either, right,
Speaker 1: so I'm like everyone's walking in. I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, oh my gosh, and big fan of yours.
Speaker 1: I was like, so I had to have my like
Speaker 1: iconic moment with you, and oh, you know what's.
Speaker 3: So funny when we actually when we left the classroom production,
Speaker 3: they were so shocked. They were like, we did not
Speaker 3: know sorry was going to do that. And they were
Speaker 3: actually they who.
Speaker 1: Were say like, are you okay with it?
Speaker 3: So they were like but they were like, we don't
Speaker 3: even know if we can air that. And I literally
Speaker 3: I begged I sat production. I was like, you have
Speaker 3: to air it. If you don't air this, like, what
Speaker 3: is the point of us even being here? You have
Speaker 3: to air this, Like hello, hello.
Speaker 1: Why did they think they couldn't air it?
Speaker 3: I think, you know, the production gets a little worried
Speaker 3: with certain situations.
Speaker 2: But I was like, oh no, I'm okay for it.
Speaker 2: I'm down for it. We listen.
Speaker 3: I'm always gunn hold for the talent show, and then
Speaker 3: when it comes to making iconic moment, I'm always down
Speaker 3: for whatever it is that we're doing. And this is
Speaker 3: a moment that if y'all don't put in the episode,
Speaker 3: you're gonna regret.
Speaker 2: You have to put an.
Speaker 1: Episode for sure, so you know, I'm here lost in
Speaker 1: the Everglades. So I don't know the response online, but
Speaker 1: are people like freaking out about it?
Speaker 2: Oh? People were?
Speaker 1: Can we make it go viral? What can we do next?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I think we need to like up the Annie
Speaker 3: and maybe apples, you know, and people we're so shocked
Speaker 3: because they're obviously seeing me in this on this TV show,
Speaker 3: which is so different from Roupulse drag Race, which is
Speaker 3: so funny because I think you were one of like
Speaker 3: the first gift judges on like season one the rue
Speaker 3: Pul's Drag Race, so like it all becomes like.
Speaker 1: Fool I was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's so interesting because it's so different the
Speaker 3: show from drag Race, and people are seeing me in
Speaker 3: a different light and seeing me have fun, and then
Speaker 3: they're literally and then they're like seeing me with these
Speaker 3: like huge like icons like obviously yourself, and they're just
Speaker 3: like whoa.
Speaker 2: So it gives people like shock value, but it's you.
Speaker 1: Are a huge icon, like are you kidding? We're lucky
Speaker 1: to be in their presence.
Speaker 3: But it's also like shock value and it gives people.
Speaker 3: I think nowadays it's hard to stand out with so
Speaker 3: much media being done us at one time, so it's
Speaker 3: kind of like, okay, like what can you make iconic
Speaker 3: and viral and big? And I think that that was
Speaker 3: the moment that people were not like on the show.
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, I was waiting for it. I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I know on this certain episode this happens.
Speaker 3: I can't wait for it to happen. And then it
Speaker 3: finally happened, I'm like, yes, okay, I love it.
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, Your apple did not save Kamila.
Speaker 2: No, unfortunately, Camilla.
Speaker 1: I really like her too.
Speaker 2: I love Kamila, my girl. She went home too soon
Speaker 2: that episode. Yeah, that sucked, but you.
Speaker 3: Know, at the end of the day, it is it's competition.
Speaker 3: Someone has to go home. I'm just gonna it wasn't me.
Speaker 2: I love my girl. Comina God, it wasn't me.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I know, I know, Okay, so I
Speaker 1: have a question. I mean, I know obviously I've seen
Speaker 1: RuPaul's drag Race, I've seen everything all Stars. I know
Speaker 1: all about you. But the interesting thing about House of
Speaker 1: Villains is I don't necessarily think the competitors. I don't
Speaker 1: think of them as villains, right right, right, So I
Speaker 1: know you're the producer, you like, just thro of the
Speaker 1: pod god, but I don't think of you as a
Speaker 1: villain when they approached you. Was that a question for
Speaker 1: you where You're like, well, I'm not a villain.
Speaker 2: So you know.
Speaker 3: Funny enough, I didn't watch season one of Half the Villains.
Speaker 3: My best friend actually watched it and he was like,
Speaker 3: I'm going on the show, and he hit up my
Speaker 3: management and.
Speaker 2: Stuff, and I was like, well, I don't really confident
Speaker 2: myself a villain.
Speaker 3: I consider myself an kind of character in the drag
Speaker 3: Race universe, but I don't know about a villain because
Speaker 3: I'm not a mean person. I just when I see,
Speaker 3: like there's seven cameras in front of me, like you
Speaker 3: have to get them something to work with. Right at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, the editing room, the stuff
Speaker 3: that makes it to the final cutting board is the
Speaker 3: iconic stuff.
Speaker 1: You're only as good as what you put in out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not a villain, but just given moments. So I
Speaker 3: remember when half the villains reached out, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: how funny. My best friend was just saying I should
Speaker 3: go on the show. And I'm never going to turn
Speaker 3: down an opportunity to be on television, or at least
Speaker 3: a good opportunity. That is, because I've turned on a
Speaker 3: few more a few things. But you know, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: the network and peacackan, yeah, we don't do it. So
Speaker 3: when I was doing the meetings where the network and production,
Speaker 3: you know, their whole promises of the show was it's
Speaker 3: not necessarily mean. We don't want mean spirited people. We
Speaker 3: don't want people to come to the house and be
Speaker 3: mean to production and be like real assholes. Right, you
Speaker 3: have fun bu the iconic characters you were on your
Speaker 3: original shows and just kind of you know, see what happens.
Speaker 2: You're living in a house.
Speaker 3: With nine other villains villains and you're doing these silly
Speaker 3: challenges and just because it's also kind of poking fun
Speaker 3: at television because there are these silly moments within the show,
Speaker 3: but we're not taking ourselves too serious because no one's
Speaker 3: actually being like a villain or mean. So to me,
Speaker 3: it was never a doubt that I was gonna go
Speaker 3: do the show. I was like, Okay, well, hust the villains,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. Put it on the resume, thank
Speaker 3: you very much. And that's only because I knew that
Speaker 3: the premises of the show wasn't so like highlight how
Speaker 3: mean and evil we are, because that's not what it
Speaker 3: is at all. And I know that some people may
Speaker 3: think like, so I will say this to the people
Speaker 3: that get like contacted for season three. Absolutely do it.
Speaker 3: It's such a fun show. Like, I don't regret a
Speaker 3: single thing.
Speaker 1: It was one of those producers. If you hear that
Speaker 1: I'd like to be on season.
Speaker 2: Three, hey, I would have to hit a baby today.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey, toy selling season three, can you
Speaker 2: put it out there?
Speaker 1: Yes to the universe, Because I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: on the way to film that day, and I'm friends
Speaker 1: with Teresa, and yeah, I was just like house the feelins, Wow,
Speaker 1: that'd be so cool because it does flip what people think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm not just saying flip because she flips tables
Speaker 1: and I just said, Teresa, But I do love a
Speaker 1: good callback and bring it full circle. But I was
Speaker 1: just like, you know what, why can't we all be
Speaker 1: villains in our own fairy tale?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And you know, I always say this when you watch
Speaker 3: back a TV show, a movie, a series, or whatever,
Speaker 3: the most iconic character and the most memorable one is
Speaker 3: a villain.
Speaker 2: We all love it, yes, sure, but the villain is
Speaker 2: the one you always remember.
Speaker 3: The villain is the one that gets to spin off
Speaker 3: and that gets the backstory in the movie. You know,
Speaker 3: we love the villains, and the show, the movie, whatever
Speaker 3: it is, would be so boring without a villain, you know.
Speaker 1: Correct, And they're always dressed the best. Oh my god?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: But I mean at the heart of it, I feel
Speaker 1: like we I don't know why I'm doing a deep
Speaker 1: dive into this. It is fascinating to me though, because
Speaker 1: I feel like in my new stage of my new life,
Speaker 1: because I'm going through a divorce and it's like Tory
Speaker 1: two point zero and you know, I'm like living my
Speaker 1: life for the first time at fifty one and trying
Speaker 1: to get away from how people perceide me. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to redefine words that people. You know, words
Speaker 1: in the dictionary, they can have other meanings and it's
Speaker 1: not it's like take that word and flip it. And
Speaker 1: I think villain gets such like an archaic connotation when
Speaker 1: it's different because villains, I mean, we all have family trauma,
Speaker 1: we all have you know, and villains at the heart
Speaker 1: of it, and every fairy tale are always vulnerable. They
Speaker 1: always come around and there's always a reason they act out. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're on this season. I'm loving it.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, It's so funny because I always say, you know,
Speaker 3: during my run on drag Ray specifically, there was a
Speaker 3: lot of words thrown at me, and what I did,
Speaker 3: I just took his words and made it into magic.
Speaker 2: You know, at the end of the day, you got
Speaker 2: me a bitch. Truck could be a bitch, but I
Speaker 2: am the bitch. You know. It's just about what you
Speaker 2: make of it. It's really life is what you're making it.
Speaker 2: The choice is.
Speaker 3: Yours, you know, and it's how you allow people to
Speaker 3: make you feel. And villain to me is just there's
Speaker 3: no bad word when it comes to villain. Villain to
Speaker 3: me just means iconic, memorable and yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: To me, I guess said I will have some villains
Speaker 2: again over five more times. It was so fun being
Speaker 2: on the show.
Speaker 3: And the fun part about the show is you get
Speaker 3: put in the house with these people that maybe in
Speaker 3: your mind you thought I would have we would have
Speaker 3: never crossed paths before, you know, and you gain and
Speaker 3: you gain these friendships and it really it's really incredible.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, have you I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can tell me this, but it's not saying anything. Have
Speaker 1: you stayed friends with anyone in the house that you
Speaker 1: met there?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Teresa, actually we She facetimes me a lot. And it's
Speaker 3: so funny because I'm like, you know, I used to
Speaker 3: watch The West growing up on housewives, and now we're
Speaker 3: like texting and stuff. So Safari, Camila, a lot of
Speaker 3: the people in the house New York. We we maintain.
Speaker 3: Although we may hate each other within the house, you know,
Speaker 3: we always say really, yeah, yeah, remember when you film,
Speaker 3: not what you saw on TV, because the edit it's
Speaker 3: always going to be different.
Speaker 2: So outside of the.
Speaker 3: House, we all we're all friends and we all love
Speaker 3: each other. And it's an experience that we all went
Speaker 3: through together, and it's an experience that only the ten
Speaker 3: of you know, and then the next ten on teaching
Speaker 3: three will know, and then the next ten on teas
Speaker 3: you know, you all have your own individual moments together.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's we have really good friends.
Speaker 3: I didn't think I would necessarily have coming out of
Speaker 3: how Civilians, but it's turned into really, like, really beautiful friendships.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I know, it's been incredible.
Speaker 1: I love what you just said, because you can't recreate
Speaker 1: like that makes me think. Sorry, I keep bringing it
Speaker 1: back to myself, but it is a podcast, so you
Speaker 1: can do whatever the fuck I want, right, I'm just kidding,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not even like that. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be Tory two point zero. That gives no fucks. But
Speaker 1: it's the same with nine O two one oh. People
Speaker 1: are like, that's a that's a cast within a circumstance
Speaker 1: that no one else. They can enjoy it from the outside,
Speaker 1: they can love it, hate it whatever they want, but
Speaker 1: they can never know the experience we had within and
Speaker 1: that bond that will always have because an experience will
Speaker 1: never have again and no one else will. So it's
Speaker 1: the same thing when you do any type of show,
Speaker 1: whether it's scripted unscripted. I mean, I'm sure you have
Speaker 1: that with drag Race too.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's the same thing, you know, specifically with drag
Speaker 3: Races because with drag Races, wear away for two months
Speaker 3: filming and in the House of Villains, it's a little
Speaker 3: bit easier because we're filming takes less than a.
Speaker 1: Month than you It was less than a month, okay.
Speaker 3: Less than a month, and you have your cell phones
Speaker 3: at nighttime, and you know, you kind of you still
Speaker 3: have connections to the outside world. With drag Race, you
Speaker 3: have no cell phone for two months straight and you're
Speaker 3: like secluded. So those people that you're filming with become
Speaker 3: your friends.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that your cell phones are gone on
Speaker 1: drag Race.
Speaker 2: What intense filming?
Speaker 3: You can't like When I first went to drag Race
Speaker 3: my original season, it was twenty twenties, it was like
Speaker 3: peak pandemic. It was like the first pandemic season that
Speaker 3: they were filming, and for two months, I had no
Speaker 3: contacts on the outside world. So it's like intense because
Speaker 3: they want they want dragons to become your world, right
Speaker 3: because you're filming the show, and you have to just
Speaker 3: remember this is the world you're filming, so no distractions
Speaker 3: outside of drag Race.
Speaker 2: So it's intense.
Speaker 3: So those people become your family and you and you
Speaker 3: then you realize when you need the show. Wow, we
Speaker 3: all went through this experience that no one else will understand.
Speaker 3: Even the viewers watching back, I'm not going to get
Speaker 3: what we went through, you know, because in reality, the
Speaker 3: viewers are watching forty five minutes to an hour edit
Speaker 3: and we're filming, specifically in the house of Vilage, we're
Speaker 3: filming twenty four hours.
Speaker 2: Because even when.
Speaker 3: I understand, there are cameras in the corners of the room,
Speaker 3: you know, they're always filming.
Speaker 2: So it's it's really an intense situation.
Speaker 3: But it's so fun like and it's so interesting how
Speaker 3: you forget that you're kind of like filming a show
Speaker 3: because the the hidden cameras become invisible to you.
Speaker 1: Right exactly. And not to go back to drag Race,
Speaker 1: what like for you, what was different about doing drag
Speaker 1: Race and Drag Race All Stars? Oh my god, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I know it's so different, but like personally, yeah.
Speaker 3: Well personally I think that when I first did Drag Race,
Speaker 3: I kind of need the back ends of TV because
Speaker 3: I've done television before, and I also have had family,
Speaker 3: my Drag family members on Drags before, so I kind
Speaker 3: of need the secrets and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I didn't walk in blind to anything.
Speaker 1: I love your week so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love my girl, but you know, I kind
Speaker 3: of well, when I got there, there was nothing.
Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised at anything. I wasn't shocked.
Speaker 3: So I when I my original season had a great time.
Speaker 3: The season aired, and within I think a year, I
Speaker 3: went back for All Stars, and that to me was
Speaker 3: just to show personal growth because at that point I
Speaker 3: had been touring and traveling the world, so I have
Speaker 3: learned and grown so much and met so many people,
Speaker 3: and so I said, Okay, I'm going to go back
Speaker 3: to All Stars and show them how much I've grown.
Speaker 3: And in reality, when I went back to All Stars,
Speaker 3: it wasn't really to proved adn't think I really was
Speaker 3: the same bitch that I was on my original season. Nonetheless,
Speaker 3: you know it was that was such a great experience
Speaker 3: in my life that I will always cherish, and I mean,
Speaker 3: Jagg is really califul to me to the career that
Speaker 3: I have to lay, so I will always cherish it.
Speaker 3: And you know, bout Paul has always said nothing but
Speaker 3: like amazing things to me. So I don't know, Drugs
Speaker 3: to me is just like this little like it doesn't
Speaker 3: matter how many TV shows and how many movies and
Speaker 3: things I do in my life, Jograce will always be
Speaker 3: like that very special.
Speaker 2: Like play where it began everything for me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I understand. And we have a special connection
Speaker 1: there because World of Wonder, yeah, which does drag Race obviously,
Speaker 1: is where I started my reality career with them very
Speaker 1: different Tori and Dean in Love and Tory and Dean
Speaker 1: home Sweet Hollywood. But yeah, Randy and Fenton are very
Speaker 1: special to me and family so and I've known Rue forever.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's quite It's nice to come full.
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's so crazy how life works, you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: I don't. So I believe in the universe and whatever
Speaker 3: the power and energy is and things happen for certain reasons.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, I'm like, here we are. You know,
Speaker 3: we were both tired to World of Wonder and we've
Speaker 3: both been on drag Race and and you know we're
Speaker 3: both on House of Villains. We will you know, So yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what should we do next?
Speaker 3: We're gonna have to do a Toy and Candy take
Speaker 3: Hollywood as something.
Speaker 1: WHOA, So I love the comment that you made to
Speaker 1: bring a full circle again. My mom's name is Candy,
Speaker 1: Candy Candy.
Speaker 2: With a K.
Speaker 1: It really Oh my gosh, Torrian Candy take Hollywood because
Speaker 1: it would be the unexpected. They'd be like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Tory and her mom are doing a show together, you
Speaker 1: and I.
Speaker 2: No, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: Like we have we should talk to Randy and Fenton
Speaker 1: about this, that there's something here. I'm texting, yeah, text
Speaker 1: them after okay, because we got something special here. I
Speaker 1: feel it absolutely, Oh my god. And so right now,
Speaker 1: you're in New York.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was actually in Orlando visiting some friends. I
Speaker 2: just got back.
Speaker 3: Were close to me, Yeah, yes, yes, actually that was
Speaker 3: very close. I live in Brooklyn in my beautiful lost department.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So just enjoying my Actually after this.
Speaker 3: I have to go run to get ready because I
Speaker 3: just got invited to the Weekend premiere tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I saw online the one in LA
Speaker 1: and I was like so bummed because I was on
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. This season and I got eliminated
Speaker 1: first and I was robbed anyway, but I'm not bitter.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I saw all of the cast of Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars. I got invited to the Wicked premiere,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh gosh, right, I mean, I couldn't
Speaker 1: have gone. Here's how life works. If by the stars
Speaker 1: this movie then I'm filming, which I'm super proud of
Speaker 1: and it's amazing experience so far called lost in the Everglades,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to do it. So the universe,
Speaker 1: you know, when one door closes, I don't know, you
Speaker 1: pray like some windows somewhere opens. If not, you smash
Speaker 1: it and jump out.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just I always I always see things like, okay,
Speaker 3: if I couldn't make it to this, it's because I'm
Speaker 3: doing this project, so like it's fine, and usually I
Speaker 3: would never freak out about getting ready for a premiere.
Speaker 2: But you know, the theme is green and pink, and.
Speaker 1: I know, what are you wearing.
Speaker 3: I'm very easy finding green pink. So I have to
Speaker 3: go run around New York City today and figure it out.
Speaker 3: But I'm excited for it nonetheless, because you know, sometimes
Speaker 3: again bringing it back to like how drags have such
Speaker 3: a special base in my heart, these things are going
Speaker 3: to be possible without dragons put.
Speaker 2: Me in the map.
Speaker 3: And then, funny enough, the way how Civillaince actually found
Speaker 3: me was they went to a producer on Drag Race
Speaker 3: and asked, who do you think would be perfect for
Speaker 3: season two from the TV show? And because production loves
Speaker 3: me so much, because I'm very professional when it comes
Speaker 3: to working and and being professional to crew and cast
Speaker 3: and everyone.
Speaker 2: They had, they chose me.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know again, it's just like all these
Speaker 3: things happening and now I'm the Wicked premiere tomorrow and
Speaker 3: it's it gon be incredible. But these things would have
Speaker 3: happened without being on all these shoulds and you know, yes, oh.
Speaker 1: My god, I mean that's so lovely you say that.
Speaker 1: But bitch like Drag Race didn't put you on the map,
Speaker 1: but give you the vehicle.
Speaker 3: And you put.
Speaker 1: Yourself on the map. I mean, you're outstanding, and you
Speaker 1: know what, it does speak a lot, and I well,
Speaker 1: I try to remind myself of this that kindness always
Speaker 1: pays off in the end, because I've always been very
Speaker 1: professional and people are like, oh, you know, back when
Speaker 1: I started, Oh, it's a producer's daughter and she's from
Speaker 1: Hollywood and she's going to be a bitch. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't an act. It's just who I am, and I
Speaker 1: believe in treating people well. I feel it comes back around.
Speaker 3: My best friend always tells me the same, because sometimes
Speaker 3: I can get in my head and I become a
Speaker 3: little like just like I check out sometimes I hate
Speaker 3: always like, remember you get more with honey than you
Speaker 3: do with vinegar. And I was like, that is so
Speaker 3: It's so true because there is no you can be
Speaker 3: a bitch and a diva. Oh you want, Sure, you
Speaker 3: can be that, but no one's gonna want to be
Speaker 3: around that. No one's gonna want to deal with that.
Speaker 3: No one's gonna wanna work with that, you know. And
Speaker 3: RuPaul actually always told me. She always say, you are
Speaker 3: so funny, you are so nice. Just remember it, just
Speaker 3: be nice and the like the world would open up
Speaker 3: for you, and.
Speaker 2: It really has. It's so true because I'm gonna say this.
Speaker 3: There were other queens that were put up for the
Speaker 3: part of Hasavillans and that were interviewed and put you know,
Speaker 3: NBCU and E were like, they they're not coming off
Speaker 3: as nice people, so we cannot work with them if
Speaker 3: they're not nice people, because they're going to like, they're
Speaker 3: not gonna be nice to production. And that's where I
Speaker 3: came in and hi, So you just have to just
Speaker 3: be kind, and not only just be kind because you
Speaker 3: want to get somewhere.
Speaker 2: Just be kind because what do you want someone to
Speaker 2: be kind to you?
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, it comes back around now. I can't
Speaker 1: get it out of my head. It's would you say
Speaker 1: you get more with honey than.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know, but I can wait. So we like redefining
Speaker 1: words and phrases. So honey just feels sticky to me,
Speaker 1: and vinegar reminds me of a douche, so we wait.
Speaker 1: So what what would be a different thing than honey
Speaker 1: and vinegar.
Speaker 2: Let's well, let's see what's.
Speaker 1: The modern version of like, sorry, I don't eat sugar.
Speaker 1: I don't need sweetener. I eat what's the healthy one?
Speaker 2: You can get more with?
Speaker 1: I don't eat it.
Speaker 3: The way I would do it because I've been on
Speaker 3: my health journey. You get more with coked zero they
Speaker 3: can do with the regular coke because one have no
Speaker 3: sugar and won't have all the sugar.
Speaker 1: Oh Okay, see, okay, here's where we're gonna have our
Speaker 1: first fight. Like, oh gosh, well, I mean it's not
Speaker 1: a fight, but we can agree to disagree. So I
Speaker 1: actually like diet coke. Well, my jam is diet doctor Pepper.
Speaker 1: So let me put it in reference to that Doctor Pepper.
Speaker 1: I know at this point in my life it's better
Speaker 1: to have the sugar than the fake stuff. It's bad
Speaker 1: for you, I know, but it's the flavor thing, and
Speaker 1: I'm very in the palette, like like tastes tasting stuff.
Speaker 2: You love, doctor Pepper.
Speaker 3: I don't drink a lot of anymore, I know, but
Speaker 3: I do love doctor Pepper. You love a coke and
Speaker 3: called zero specifically, they have these like miniature cans.
Speaker 1: Oh there many cans, yeah, because there about drinking it.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh I drank one, but it's like tiny
Speaker 2: and it's like zero callery. So like I practically drank water.
Speaker 1: But I don't feel guilty about drinking it. I feel
Speaker 1: guilty that I can't finish a whole can and then
Speaker 1: I just have like half empty cans. Okay, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't feel guilty. I'm lying, and I don't lie.
Speaker 1: I don't feel guilty about either of those. I just
Speaker 1: think it's cuter. It's aesthetic only, But I love a
Speaker 1: mini can. I know it's not practical because if you
Speaker 1: really think about how much you're getting in it, you're
Speaker 1: paying more. The fuck it. They're so cute, They're like
Speaker 1: fucking adorable, and I'm all about them. I love the
Speaker 1: mini cans. Uh yeah, okay, so we have coke zero
Speaker 1: and we have coke hmm. Yeah, all right, yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with that, but I still, and I'm sure you've
Speaker 1: gone through a lot of people you've worked with, it
Speaker 1: still riles me up a little bit that when you
Speaker 1: know someone isn't kind to the core, and yet you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know it's going to come back to them like karma,
Speaker 1: working situations, not professional like, and it doesn't catch up
Speaker 1: to them, and you're like, here, I am busting my
Speaker 1: ass and I'm kind as fuck, oh trust me, And
Speaker 1: I see other people getting ahead, then I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know what, why are you still getting ahead? You're not
Speaker 1: a nice person.
Speaker 3: There are multiple people in my field who I know
Speaker 3: are not the nicest or the kindest and get handed
Speaker 3: so much. And you know, I never compare my work
Speaker 3: to anyone else because I'm in my own lane and
Speaker 3: I'm doing my own thing. But I do work very hard,
Speaker 3: and sometimes I do when theer I'm like, well, how
Speaker 3: come certain things I don't get? But even though I'm
Speaker 3: working so hard and being so kind and yeah, but
Speaker 3: that's that's the trick of like Hollywood or honestly in
Speaker 3: life really where you just when you see things like
Speaker 3: that happen, you just have to like shun it out,
Speaker 3: like okay, Like, I'm not gonna compare myself because what's
Speaker 3: for you is for you, and what's for me is
Speaker 3: going to be for me, although I don't think you
Speaker 3: desire it HAPs of things you got, but that's new.
Speaker 1: It's more not comparing myself. I'm just like, I know
Speaker 1: you're not nice or creative or anything, but you're still
Speaker 1: getting ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah m hm m hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what what do they say? People like that
Speaker 1: get their just desserts at some point, at some point, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let the meat cake, but like a healthy one now, right, because.
Speaker 2: We're journey everyone on their healthy sho.
Speaker 1: I don't even like cake. Fuck cake, I'm not. I'm
Speaker 1: a savory person, not a sweet person.
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I could be either.
Speaker 1: Like before your health journey.
Speaker 3: Right, well, oh my god, I I would my thing
Speaker 3: was everything.
Speaker 2: Everything was my thing that would be issue.
Speaker 3: And once, you know, a year ago, I said, okay,
Speaker 3: let me start our healthy journey. I do love picking
Speaker 3: on sour cantying every now and then, and I love wait,
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 1: Sour candy, and I don't like sweets with my jam
Speaker 1: Like yesterday and said, they were like, if you could
Speaker 1: have anything right now, can we get you something. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't like to ask for anything, but
Speaker 1: if you can get me any kind of sour candy
Speaker 1: like sour patch kids.
Speaker 2: Like, I love me sour skittles because oh.
Speaker 1: My god, they're so good and the point where your
Speaker 1: tongue just goes numb and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, yes, oh it's so good.
Speaker 1: Wait I go. So I go online Amazon and I
Speaker 1: research like sour I order wild sour stuff because I've
Speaker 1: done this to my kids now too, and they love
Speaker 1: sour stuff too. And we will find my mouse watering
Speaker 1: thinking about this. There's like sour, like sour death candy,
Speaker 1: like the most sour thing in the world.
Speaker 2: I love start candy. I think sar candy is amazing.
Speaker 1: We'll have to sh are those, okay, every now and then.
Speaker 2: But now I'm just we can do a.
Speaker 1: Travel food show, I mean, but not like a food
Speaker 1: show where we travel the world looking for the most
Speaker 1: sour candy.
Speaker 2: That hello, whoa we go that there is the idea of.
Speaker 1: I'm an idea person. Okay, let's stick together. There's a
Speaker 1: few few of us out there. I'm gonna be trolling
Speaker 1: Instagram to see what you wore to the Wicked premiere.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm going to go figure that out today and
Speaker 3: hopefully Amazon Prime comes in quickly.
Speaker 1: So yeah, oh wait, when is it tomorrow?
Speaker 2: So tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You like a good challenge. I know you do. So
Speaker 1: there's something fun about like how fast can I get
Speaker 1: it here? Will it come in time? Will I have
Speaker 1: to run out? If not?
Speaker 2: I have this theory that life loves see me stress
Speaker 2: because the emails happened here in New York, let's say
Speaker 2: two months ago, and.
Speaker 3: This year because VMAs it's viacom and HOS NBCU. You know,
Speaker 3: I wasn't granted red carpet. You know, there's all these
Speaker 3: matters that network matters and stuff. Okay, I won't do
Speaker 3: red carpet or whatever. It's something in me was just like,
Speaker 3: but I just know. I know, last minute, I'm going
Speaker 3: to get an email about the Vmail's red carpet. The
Speaker 3: day of the VMAs, at eleven in the morning, I
Speaker 3: got an email for a four pm arrival at a
Speaker 3: red carpet, and I was just like, Okay, I have
Speaker 3: about three hours to get ready for a red carpet.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. I did it. I did it.
Speaker 1: Of course you did, and you thrived because creatives like
Speaker 1: us thrive under chaos. That is right, happy chaos. But like,
Speaker 1: doesn't it give you like energy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no it does because then I'm I have a
Speaker 3: challenge and I'm going to fulfill it because at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I want to feel fulfilled like,
Speaker 3: oh I did that.
Speaker 2: That was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, I love that story. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: you can really test yourself and not even do it prime.
Speaker 1: You could just be like we'll see you arrives Amazon.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Amazon is like a life saver. And
Speaker 1: I have this thing like I love when people are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I love what you're wearing, because I
Speaker 1: think they expect that I'm going to say some like
Speaker 1: big designer, and I'm always like Amazon, Oh my, you know,
Speaker 1: or like I don't know, I'm like so proud of it.
Speaker 3: Oh always, always, I'm very I wear a lot of
Speaker 3: my local designers, or I wear a lot of stuff
Speaker 3: I find online or that I have within my archive
Speaker 3: and closet and stuff.
Speaker 2: Because although I'm sure I can reach.
Speaker 3: Out to the stylists and get the latest on these, no,
Speaker 3: people don't realize. I'm like, these things are very you know,
Speaker 3: I'm as pop star. These these pulling pulling, these vintage
Speaker 3: and amazing looks are very expensive. And I'm a firm
Speaker 3: believer that is, you can make it look good, then
Speaker 3: you can really wear anything. Because I can give you
Speaker 3: a white T shirt and you can wear the white
Speaker 3: T shirt or you can style it to your liking
Speaker 3: and you can be the most amazing.
Speaker 1: Together, I'm even more in love with you now. I
Speaker 1: concur my friend. I agree. Yeah, Like when they start
Speaker 1: on me for something, I was doing something and they
Speaker 1: had reference. I love a good mood board and Pinterests.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Pinterest is my best friend, even though
Speaker 1: I have some like crazy dark shit on there, but
Speaker 1: and fun stuff. But they were like the reference for
Speaker 1: this character, and we're gonna style it this way, and
Speaker 1: it was pictures of Jennifer Aniston, and I was like, listen,
Speaker 1: mad respect for Jennifer Aniston. Great actress, really nice person,
Speaker 1: amazing career. I don't think her styles very what's the
Speaker 1: word I'm looking for. Stil's in nulla.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair cross paths.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she can walk into any she looks good in anything.
Speaker 1: But I've always wanted her to take chances. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that yet. So yeah, so you tell
Speaker 1: me a white T shirt. I'm pretty certain I know
Speaker 1: how Jennifer Anison would wear that white tea shirt. She'll
Speaker 1: look hot as fuck, but I know. But like, you
Speaker 1: give us a white T shirt, we're gonna fucking slay
Speaker 1: in DIY and fucking own it absolutely. Okay, So we'll
Speaker 1: have a white T shirt contest. We have so many
Speaker 1: things we could do. Okay, I'll let you go so
Speaker 1: you can get ready. I love this conversation. It made
Speaker 1: me really happy.