WEBVTT - Evel Knievel Part II

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to stuff you should know Frounhouse Stuff Works dot Com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry And this is part two

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<v Speaker 1>of the Evil Knevil Saga, the sequel. Yeah, we genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know. Yeah, we kind of. That's why he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>set it up as part one of them two because

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<v Speaker 1>we got into it and like, dude, this thing can't

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<v Speaker 1>be an hour and a half long. I guess it good,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, we found our sweet spot is not an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half of content. We did a one

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<v Speaker 1>part on Isaac Newton, but the two part on Evil Knel.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so where we left off, we'll just get

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<v Speaker 1>right into it. Huh. Evil Knevil had just completed the

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<v Speaker 1>Caesar's Palace jump, completing it with his head and smashed pelvis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, he was in a coma for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine days after that crash. These were not light injuries. No,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh we left at a very important point right

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<v Speaker 1>when he went and did that jump. On his way

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<v Speaker 1>out to the jump area, he took a hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 1>put it on the blackjack table, promptly lost, hit the bar,

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<v Speaker 1>did a shot of wild turkey and went out and

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<v Speaker 1>jumped apparently with the two show girls, one under each

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<v Speaker 1>arm that was in head blocks. That was his style.

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<v Speaker 1>He lived hard because he was from the hard land

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<v Speaker 1>of Butte, Montana. So he lands right, and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>land on his his bike. Like, I can't remember what stuck,

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<v Speaker 1>but something stuck. I guess his back tire was it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was usually spack tire that gave him the trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>He always almost made it like you were saying something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was back tire. I'm trying to visualize

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<v Speaker 1>the crash. But his his handlebars just get pulled right

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<v Speaker 1>out of his hands because the bike bucked down well,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just such an impact with that three pound bike. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he just couldn't hold on and so once he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have the handlebars anymore, he didn't have control and he

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<v Speaker 1>goes flying off. Oh it's tough to watch. It is

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<v Speaker 1>tough to watch, especially in slow motion, which is how

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<v Speaker 1>I saw it. Yeah, it's the only way to see it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So he has finished this jump with his head like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, and his star is bigger than ever, like

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<v Speaker 1>because of this crash. He's more famous than ever. He's

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<v Speaker 1>making Grand per performance by And it was after the

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<v Speaker 1>Caesar's Jump where he first starts to plant the seed

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<v Speaker 1>to the press that he wants to jump the Grand Canyon. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I have a feeling this just came

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<v Speaker 1>out of his mouth, like what's the biggest thing I

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<v Speaker 1>can think of? Um. But he started a genuine, seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>genuine attempt to get permission from the National Park Service

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<v Speaker 1>to do this Grand Canyon jump. Over the years, he

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<v Speaker 1>needed permission from I think it was the Interior Department,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, no, absolutely not. And he said

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<v Speaker 1>why yea, And they were like, we really have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you why you can't have permission to jump that. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But he did keep it up. It was a drum

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<v Speaker 1>that he beat like almost constantly. During interviews. He would

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<v Speaker 1>say like, you know, coming one day, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to jump the Grand Canyon. That's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>my next big trick. And then in the meantime he

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<v Speaker 1>would set up these other exhibitions. Yeah and and chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he was making Grand of performance. He was

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<v Speaker 1>doing a performance a week for a while there. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was rich he was a wealthy man

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. Uh In nineteen seventy one, in January,

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<v Speaker 1>on the eighth, the ninth, he broke two records. He

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<v Speaker 1>sold out the Houston Astrodome twice over two shows in

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<v Speaker 1>a row. He sold out the Astrodome and one which

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<v Speaker 1>was a record. And then um in February he broke

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<v Speaker 1>an actual jump record by jumping nineteen cars on that

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<v Speaker 1>Harley XR seven fifty. It's pretty impressive. It's funny when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at my my liner notes on this because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I'll just put kind of what's going on, so

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me. It just says jump crash, jump, crash, jump, crash,

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over. But that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he would, he crashed a lot, like the Pepsi

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<v Speaker 1>truck one. It turns out it was thirteen Pepsi trucks. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he crashed that one. That one. It wasn't necessarily his fault,

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<v Speaker 1>like he had a short He had a fairly short

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<v Speaker 1>run up distance and it went pavement grass, pavement. Not ideal. Yeah, again,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't really think through. I don't know if he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't people thinking it through in his behalf. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well he would just do whatever. Or like I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>like well this is how much room I have, wasn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>well maybe I don't have enough room, right, maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is a bad idea. Well I said I'd do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I die, oh well, Well, in his famous

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<v Speaker 1>uh quote he always said was it's it's not about crashing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's about getting up and trying it again.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's kind of a trite saying it's direct

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<v Speaker 1>from success through a positive mental attitude. Yeah. Probably, so

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<v Speaker 1>his favorite book, so, um, the Grand Canyon thing is

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<v Speaker 1>building steam um in some ways as far as leaking

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<v Speaker 1>it to the press, but the government is still like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't do that. Little boys all over the country

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<v Speaker 1>are I think his one quote was little boys want

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<v Speaker 1>to be like me, men want to be me, and

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<v Speaker 1>women want to be with me. I Yeah, he definitely

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<v Speaker 1>thought a lot of himself. Uh So, finally, officially the U. S.

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<v Speaker 1>Department Interior said, I'm denying you airspace over the Grand Canyon.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not gonna happen. Please stop calling us. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So what does he do? Well, he apparently was on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane ride and he was over um Idaho, and

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that there was a pretty good sized canyon that

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<v Speaker 1>was formed by the Snake River around what's that down

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<v Speaker 1>there that looks like a canyon. Yeah, i'll jump that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more than one canyon in the US and he uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he decided to go check it out, and outside of

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<v Speaker 1>Twin Falls, Idaho, he found a little area that was

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<v Speaker 1>just perfectly wide. Um, there was enough run up on

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<v Speaker 1>either side for him to try to jump it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't need much run up and he uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't know at the time. He thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to use a motorcycle. Um. Yeah, he did a

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<v Speaker 1>rocket cycle. Um and uh he uh. Most importantly, though,

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<v Speaker 1>it was was privately owned, so he didn't need permission

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<v Speaker 1>from any kind of government agency, although he did actually

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<v Speaker 1>that he had to get permission Um from the local

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<v Speaker 1>I think the county to register the vehicle. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>it and they registered at it as an airplane even

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<v Speaker 1>though it was actually a rocket, a steam powered rocket. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He leased three acres for thirty five grand and said,

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<v Speaker 1>September seventy two, it's going down. ABC Sports said we're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna pay whatever you're asking. So he said, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>remember how this worked out last time. I'm gonna hire

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Aram who was a boxing promoter still is I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>his name sound of familiar unless he's passed away. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was, uh for Top Rank Productions. He said, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you handled the filming and we'll do this new fangled

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<v Speaker 1>thing called close circuit TV show at movie theaters. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>all get we're all gonna get rich. Hard a subcontractor

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<v Speaker 1>and actually got engineers for this. And they built that

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<v Speaker 1>X one sky cycle, which, like you said, I've i'd

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<v Speaker 1>forgotten it was gonna be a rocket motorcycle, a rocket

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<v Speaker 1>powered motorcycle. And they built it and tested it that

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<v Speaker 1>went right down a mile down into the river. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, maybe we should just do it like a

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<v Speaker 1>straight up rocket. And this this dude, this engineer. So

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<v Speaker 1>he hired an engineer named Doug Maliwiki, and Doug Maliwiki

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<v Speaker 1>subcontracted the actual like design and construction out to another

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<v Speaker 1>UM Aeronautics engineer. His name is Robert. I can't figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to say this guy's last name. It's spelled

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<v Speaker 1>like true acts true. Yeah, I think I remember the documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Robert Truick. Okay, So Robert Truix was the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who actually designed and I believe built the rocket,

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<v Speaker 1>the steam powered rocket, the X two that um that

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<v Speaker 1>Eva Kinnevel used to jump the Snake River Canyon right,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you'll see, it didn't go according to plan.

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<v Speaker 1>So this guy's son is the one who is behind

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<v Speaker 1>this jump that's being done by Eddie Braun in September

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<v Speaker 1>because he wants to vindicate his father that this thing

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<v Speaker 1>would have made it had this um, this parachute not

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<v Speaker 1>deployed and kept him from making So he's like, he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to show that this this would have worked, and

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<v Speaker 1>that his dad, who's had lots of scoring heaped on

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<v Speaker 1>him over the years, including publicly by Evil kinevil Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that it was all quite unfair. Well, we're getting something

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute, which makes him seem like a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>jerk even but things are going well, well that's not

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<v Speaker 1>exactly true. September eight n it's gonna go down. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing had turned into the party of the century,

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<v Speaker 1>like a hippie Hell's Angels biker party, a huge one.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is like Twin Falls, Idaho is not like

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<v Speaker 1>a hippie biker town. It was like a normal god

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<v Speaker 1>fearing country town and all of a sudden, thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>hippie biker weirdo Druggi's show up and start partying in town. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They were hammered, they were drunk, they were high on grass,

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<v Speaker 1>setting fires, just setting fires. It was completely out of hand.

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<v Speaker 1>They had no idea it was gonna attract this many people. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and became like a three day party. Did you say grass. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're high on grass. Oh yeah yeah, now would a

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<v Speaker 1>weed probably herb, the herb nugs. So uh, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>huge party. It's like Woodstock. People are drunk out of

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<v Speaker 1>their minds. Yeah, high on the grass. Yeah, I bet you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some LSD going around, maybe even maybe some Benni's.

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<v Speaker 1>And on this documentary I saw there was a real fear.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a temporary fencing put up to keep people

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<v Speaker 1>away because the lip of the canyon it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>straight drop. Yeah, so they have this temporary fencing and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the jump in a second, but when

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<v Speaker 1>it actually goes down, they bum rushed this thing because

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't see it what was going on. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was a real fear that they were going to be

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<v Speaker 1>mass deaths like Lemmings. Yeah, where people would get shoved

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<v Speaker 1>off the lip of this canyon because the people up

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<v Speaker 1>front would just run and stop, and then five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people behind him. I don't even know how many people

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<v Speaker 1>there was more than five thousand even, I think, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that they were just gonna be like hundreds and hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of people shoved unwillingly to their death. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>more like the Three Stooges than Lemmings. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>could have happened. Yeah. Yeah, if you look at I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how. I saw a video of this um

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<v Speaker 1>and there's just people like just looking over the ledge. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it didn't either. It's it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you just describing it scares me. You got a little shutter.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what happens. Evil Kin. Evil is not feeling

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<v Speaker 1>good about this. He literally goes to his family and

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer and says goodbye, And they interviewed his family

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<v Speaker 1>and they were like, this sucked. Like we really thought

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<v Speaker 1>we were saying goodbye to our father forever, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>thought he was gonna die that day. No, like P. T.

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<v Speaker 1>Barnum bs going on, like we thought we were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see his see his death in front of our face.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes off, and um, the promoter apparently was like,

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<v Speaker 1>had these armed guards. He said that they looked like

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<v Speaker 1>they were there for the crowd control. He said they

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<v Speaker 1>were there to make sure he got in that rocket,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, because I was not going to let this

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<v Speaker 1>knot go down with that scene going on there. So

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<v Speaker 1>he gets in. They do the countdown. This steam rocket

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<v Speaker 1>goes off. It was built from the from I think

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<v Speaker 1>the fuel tank of a jet. Yeah, it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>little one man rocket. Yeah, and they like superheated this

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<v Speaker 1>water I think like five degrees to create this blast

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<v Speaker 1>of steam. It takes off and almost immediately the the

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<v Speaker 1>parachute is deployed, which provides drag, and it did not

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<v Speaker 1>get very far. No, but apparently if you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the initial trajectory, it was right on target, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why the engineer's son is like, it would have worked.

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<v Speaker 1>It will work if the parachute doesn't deploy. And in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the engineer's defense, the promoter and Evil Knievel,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're not testing this. We already spent all a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of money on that X two cycle or the

0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:22.559
<v Speaker 1>X one rocket cycle. Um, we so just make it right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had one parachute. They didn't test it, and

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<v Speaker 1>when he did this jump, it was the jump as

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<v Speaker 1>well as the only test that they've gone right. So

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<v Speaker 1>the parachute did deployed, but they think that had it

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<v Speaker 1>not deployed, he totally would have made it. But the

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<v Speaker 1>parachute did deploy, so he didn't make this jump and

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<v Speaker 1>started drifting, luckily attached to a parachute, into a mild

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<v Speaker 1>deep canyon. The thing is, I can't believe they did this.

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<v Speaker 1>They had him harnessed in his jumpsuit, was like strapped

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<v Speaker 1>to the seat this thing, so he had no way

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<v Speaker 1>of getting out. He had he needed help to get out,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently there's no one waiting in the canyon down

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<v Speaker 1>below to help get him out. They were all on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the canyon. So had he landed

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<v Speaker 1>in the river, he would have drowned because he had

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<v Speaker 1>no way of getting out. Luckily, he landed within feet

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<v Speaker 1>of the river. So it goes a mile down drifting slowly,

0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:29.680
<v Speaker 1>totally up in the air. It's like a plank oat

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<v Speaker 1>chip at this point. Now no one knows where it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna land. And he landed within a few feet of

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<v Speaker 1>the of the water, so that he survived amazing. Uh

0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:39.800
<v Speaker 1>you know how I teased you and said, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>little tidbit that makes him seem like a jerk. There

0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:48.280
<v Speaker 1>is speculation that Evil can Evil pulled that shoot because

0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.000
<v Speaker 1>he didn't think he was going to make this thing,

0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and and he might not have thought he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make it to begin with, and it was all just

0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a big publicity stunt, and he knew that he could

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<v Speaker 1>pull that shoot as soon as he took off and

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<v Speaker 1>float safely down. So in the documentary they talked about

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I saw another VH one What's the

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<v Speaker 1>behind the Evil? Yeah, something like that, where um he

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<v Speaker 1>was our true Hollywood story. I think um E network

0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and he um. They talked about it, and there too,

0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.160
<v Speaker 1>they were like his hand was on that lever, like

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<v Speaker 1>he was the one responsible for pulling that thing, because

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<v Speaker 1>they enter of the engineer and he was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how this thing like it should have deployed,

0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.400
<v Speaker 1>like he was getting all the scorn. Well, yeah, you

0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.160
<v Speaker 1>couldn't figure out how it deployed. And Evil can evenly

0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.080
<v Speaker 1>even call him an idiot. He's like kind never like

0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.920
<v Speaker 1>that engineer he was an idiot. So that does make

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<v Speaker 1>it way worse because apparently also the engineer was very

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<v Speaker 1>surprised to hear this because they were good friends. They

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<v Speaker 1>become good friends over the coach of this project. Now

0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.240
<v Speaker 1>he's publicly calling him an idiot. Yeah, I think he

0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.480
<v Speaker 1>took that secret to his grave, so we'll never know.

0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.560
<v Speaker 1>But there was definitely speculation that he never intended to

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<v Speaker 1>make that jump. I had not heard that, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty remarkable. Well, let's let's take a break, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back, because, believe it or not, he kept jumping,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Josh, Snake River Canyon is in the books.

0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.880
<v Speaker 1>It is, and apparently he made like six million dollars

0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:42.080
<v Speaker 1>from that job. Yeah, that's what he personally needed. And

0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.920
<v Speaker 1>then spend it like in the next three weeks on diamonds. Yeah,

0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:50.280
<v Speaker 1>because it goes like, yeah, we'll talk more about that later,

0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.040
<v Speaker 1>all right. So now we moved forward a few years.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in between seventy two and seventy five, does plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of other jumps and had plenty of other hospital stays,

0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and then May in front of once again ABC's wide

0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.800
<v Speaker 1>world of sports. The thrill of victory, the agony of

0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:11.240
<v Speaker 1>defeat that still around when you were around. No, I

0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:16.080
<v Speaker 1>watched the laugh Olympics. Wilde World of Sports is like

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest thing on TV on Sundays. Yeah, no, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was on. It just never caught my

0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.359
<v Speaker 1>fancy and it was so great the weekend. Seriously, it

0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:26.480
<v Speaker 1>was just all about cartoons with me, you know, like

0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.840
<v Speaker 1>there was that point cartoons would started like seven in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and then go to like ten thirty eleven

0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.399
<v Speaker 1>sometimes and then like non cartoons would start and just

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<v Speaker 1>be like that's when you nave and put this on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>you said, and then at naptural prime time. Uh So

0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.760
<v Speaker 1>in seventy five he says, you know what I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do the biggest jump of my career in England.

0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:51.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm world renowned jumper. At this point I can go

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<v Speaker 1>to London, England. Yeah, because again not just like he's

0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.840
<v Speaker 1>on the wide World of Sports and he's known for

0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the Snake River Canyon jump and like the sea just pals.

0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:05.720
<v Speaker 1>There's the stunt cycle toy was the largest selling toy

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<v Speaker 1>of Christmas nineteen seventy three. Yeah, he made a ton

0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.879
<v Speaker 1>of money off that. Atari had a stunt Cycle like

0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:16.600
<v Speaker 1>video console in nineteen seventy six. Um he there were

0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.200
<v Speaker 1>there were action figures. There's a whole like action figure

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<v Speaker 1>line by ideal. He was making mad cash from just

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<v Speaker 1>being a daredevil. Yeah, adds he was a pitch man.

0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:30.440
<v Speaker 1>He was making money hand over fist and like we say,

0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.520
<v Speaker 1>over and over spending it. And he was huge. He

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<v Speaker 1>was just a huge star. It's such a seventies thing

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<v Speaker 1>to be star for being a daredevil. Yeah. Yeah, it

0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.639
<v Speaker 1>beats the two thousand tens thing of just being a

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<v Speaker 1>star for being famous. No, I agreed. You know, at

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<v Speaker 1>least this guy was doing something. Yeah. Did Kim Kardashian

0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.439
<v Speaker 1>never put her life on the line. No, that's what

0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to see being Paris Hilton's assistant, probably because

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<v Speaker 1>she survived it. She was persisted. That's where she started out. Really,

0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.199
<v Speaker 1>what would you mean started out? She started out as

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<v Speaker 1>a rich kid in Brentwood. She did, but she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity by any MO until well until that sex tape.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think she was Paris Hilton's assistant at the

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<v Speaker 1>time that came out. That's weird. You know, Paris Hilton

0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:23.480
<v Speaker 1>has my same eye affliction, the tosis you paras Hilton,

0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Forest Wortaker, Tommy York. Oh yeah, he's got too huh yeah,

0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.480
<v Speaker 1>get that fix one day. I don't think you should

0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:33.360
<v Speaker 1>adds a tremendous amount of character. I don't know. It's

0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:35.399
<v Speaker 1>easy to say when you don't have a droopy eyelid.

0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I think you should keep that vestigial tail, right, that's character.

0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I like it. When you wag it, we'll see what

0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.000
<v Speaker 1>it's doing. Is it's it's inhibiting my vision. Well, then

0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:50.919
<v Speaker 1>I can see that, you know, not a ton. But

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<v Speaker 1>like when I left my eyelid up all the way,

0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I can see fift more of the room.

0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 1>There's the sky. Yeah, anyway, that's my issue. So is

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.359
<v Speaker 1>at Wimbley Stadium sold out Wimbley Stadium in London, England,

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.919
<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna jump how many people that is? Well,

0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.160
<v Speaker 1>this is ninety thousand, the other articles at seventy. Either way,

0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a bunch between seventy and nine. So I don't

0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.280
<v Speaker 1>think we can sell that sell out Wimbley. No, but

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.840
<v Speaker 1>we sold out two shows in London, so they clearly

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:31.840
<v Speaker 1>have a jones for American American Americans making asses of them.

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So he jumps these A E. C. Merlin busses, These

0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:39.440
<v Speaker 1>are not the double deckers, um, but they're still busses.

0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:44.240
<v Speaker 1>And it's a big jump. It's a believe as biggest

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<v Speaker 1>to date. And he crashes, of course, breaks his back.

0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Broke his back. Yeah, and in the very famous footage,

0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.440
<v Speaker 1>told Frank Gifford, I came in walking. I went out

0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:58.520
<v Speaker 1>walking because Frank Gifford's like, get this guy, stretcher. He's

0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.400
<v Speaker 1>broken his back. And Evil was like, I'm walking out

0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and he did. He did. It wasn't smart, but he

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<v Speaker 1>did it. Uh. Then he goes to another huge jump

0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 1>at King's Island theme park in Ohio. I've been there.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet is it still around? I don't know, but

0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:19.600
<v Speaker 1>I've been there. And when when I was a kid,

0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it's clearly where is it? You know, I don't know.

0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I was always a passenger. I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>part of Ohio it's but it's clearly second Banana to

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<v Speaker 1>Cedar Point to Cedar Point pretty much everything is in

0:21:32.040 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the world his second Banana Point. Yeah. No, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a your your parents hate you, do they take you

0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 1>to King's Island instead of Cedar Point? Yeah. Uh. So

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.320
<v Speaker 1>he makes us jump at Cedar Point at King's Island

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.439
<v Speaker 1>and it is at the time, the highest rated event

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and wild world wide. It's a tough one wide world

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<v Speaker 1>of sports history. Still still yeah, I guess so the

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:03.240
<v Speaker 1>show's not around. Yeah. A hundred and six sixty three

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<v Speaker 1>successful jump. I don't think he even crashed on this one. Yeah,

0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:10.680
<v Speaker 1>this is an all around good one for him. You

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>got the buses. It's at King's Island, successful set, a record,

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>highest rated, everything's coming up basis on this one. It

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<v Speaker 1>is coming up basis and he says he's retiring. Yeah, yep,

0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.520
<v Speaker 1>he's Uh. He started to say that a lot, starting

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<v Speaker 1>with this jump. After just about every jump, he would

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.919
<v Speaker 1>be like, that's it, I'm done. I'm never going to

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 1>do it again, and then he would do it again.

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 1>And actually I believe he retired after Yeah, he retired

0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:45.679
<v Speaker 1>after Wimbley. Okay, that's the famous line was I remember

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>now He crashed spectacularly, grabbed the mic and told the

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<v Speaker 1>stadium that you are the last people in the world

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.440
<v Speaker 1>who will ever see me jump. I will never ever

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>ever ever jump again ever him through. And then five

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<v Speaker 1>months later he jumped to King's Island, right, and then

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.479
<v Speaker 1>retired after that one. Right. Then he retired after that one.

0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>He did another one um shortly after that at the

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<v Speaker 1>Kingdom in Um Seattle. Actually it was a year after

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that when he retired again. That one that was like

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Tyson's last fight, Like he he jumped seven greyhound busses

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.639
<v Speaker 1>and I guess the crowd was fine with it, but

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:25.040
<v Speaker 1>he apologized for it being not so great, for not

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.439
<v Speaker 1>like being risky enough, and and so he retired again.

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>And then he came back again, right, and this time

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 1>he was channeling the Fons. Oh yeah, he was gonna

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:40.400
<v Speaker 1>jump a tank of shark. He's gonna literally jump the shark. Yeah,

0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and he did well, he didn't in the seven in Chicago,

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>he saw Jaws the movie and said, let's just like

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>he kind of reminds me of my dad a little bit.

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 1>My dad has this weird If he would have had

0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:56.439
<v Speaker 1>a ton of money, he would have had this kind

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>of weird excess crazy ideas like the bombshell. After it

0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.200
<v Speaker 1>was like these dudes of this generation there was something.

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:07.120
<v Speaker 1>They're all crazy. Yeah, they still hadn't they didn't get

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:14.200
<v Speaker 1>movies yet. Yeah, that's what um. So he says he's

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna jump a bit of sharks, put it on TV,

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.240
<v Speaker 1>and during rehearsal, he has a really bad crash and

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>actually severely injured a cameraman. Yeah, the guy lost his eye. Ye,

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and I guess that was a really big deal that

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 1>evil can even Yeah, he was like I can't come

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>back from that one. Nope. So did he not do

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>the actual jump? No, I think he called it off.

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Had I been the cameraman, I would have been like,

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>so I just lost my eye for nothing. Yeah, he's

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>like getting that shark. Yeah, at least do the jump.

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 1>Uh Yeah. And apparently he sat on that footage for

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>almost twenty years, and then there was finally a documentary,

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:52.840
<v Speaker 1>not the one I saw, but another one where he

0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>allowed that footage to be shown and then he did retire,

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.320
<v Speaker 1>So you know this is smart. I'm sure that camera

0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>operator was like, oh, you couldn't have retired before you

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>took my eye out, not a week earlier. But that

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>was the one where he finally is like I'm done.

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And he had a great quote. It was a professional

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>is supposed to know when he has jumped far enough.

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Good quote. It is a pretty good quote. And like

0:25:17.119 --> 0:25:20.080
<v Speaker 1>he said, it wasn't just the Seattle jump that he

0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>he He started doing less risky jumps toward the end

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:26.120
<v Speaker 1>period that were like, I guess he lost his nerve.

0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe after Boise or twin Falls the Sneake River, maybe

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>because it seems like that's where about it it changed.

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.080
<v Speaker 1>Things changed, Although no, I guess it would have been

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<v Speaker 1>wimbley because you gotta have a lot of nerve to

0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>try that. So maybe after he broke his back he

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.480
<v Speaker 1>was like probably who all right, well, let's take another

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>break here and we'll wrap it up with a little

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>bit more on his private life and all those broken bones,

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 1>broken bones. Josh, you know the old rumor that he

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>broke every bone in his body. Yeah, not true, but

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.680
<v Speaker 1>he does hold a record for most broken bones. He does.

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, man, because he said he's broken thirty five bones.

0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>That didn't seem like a record. Thirty five bones, four

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>d and thirty three fractures of those bones, and I

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>believe both of those are records as far as Genness

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 1>is concerned. Well, when you look his own website has

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.159
<v Speaker 1>a neat little chart where the injuries are broken up

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>into fractured, broken, broken, and replaced and broken multiple times.

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:53.960
<v Speaker 1>The other one that I'm I'm curious about, his crushed

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 1>like he crushed his pelvis, is that an actual medical term.

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>You see it, Yeah, frequently. What has to take place

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 1>for a bone to be considered crushed? My interpretation of that,

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 1>which is completely made up, is that it's fractured so

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 1>severely it goes beyond multiple fractures. They can't put Humpty

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 1>back together to just crushed into powder, fine powder. That's

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>what comes to mind. I'm sure that's not what happens,

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>but I think of like a big pile of like

0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:30.199
<v Speaker 1>sawdust in his butt. But if you look at his

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 1>injury list, it's you know, uh, skull, nose, teeth, jaw,

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 1>left and right clavical stern um, upper vertebrae, right arm,

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>left arm, all ribs, pelvis three times cox six both wrist,

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>hip and ball socket, lower bird of a femur. Five times.

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>He broke his femur. Can you believe that? Yeah? Yeah,

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I can right knee, right shin,

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:59.159
<v Speaker 1>both ankles toes. It looks like his left below his

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:03.919
<v Speaker 1>femur on his left leg, he was virtually unscathed. Weird,

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>isn't that weird? No? No, no left end, no left

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>just say both ankles typically fallen into a certain fashion.

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you know this is that's over Apple Cardiff. I

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>think that is what they call it. These are his

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>bones too. This isn't taking any account the coma he

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>was in and the multiple concussions he suffered. Yeah, and

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I think he there was like internal bleeding and things

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>like that along the way too. And as as a

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 1>result of this, there was um there were rumors that

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>still stand, although I couldn't find much in the way

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>of substantiation of him that he was he took drugs himself,

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>probably painkillers. Apparently his good friends were like he ate

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 1>him like candy, Yeah, while grand standing against drugs. So

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>that was a really big part of what he was doing.

0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>And one of the reasons why he did become a

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 1>role model to a whole generation of young boys was

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>he he had set himself up like that. He would

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 1>at the at the beginning of every UM show he

0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>would basically do like a don't do drugs message, stay

0:29:09.840 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>in school, um, keep your word, And these were what

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>what UM he considered his his core values, right, So um. Yeah,

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>the idea that like he was doing drugs himself, it's

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I have the impression if he was, it was very

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 1>much an Elvis interpretation, Like these aren't drugs. My doctor

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.080
<v Speaker 1>gave him to me. I'm completely hooked on him, but

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I got him from the doctor, right. Um, not like

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 1>he was like hitting like bumps of coke or something before.

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>He was, you know, hitting the ramp. Yeah, he was.

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>He was a bad drink or huge, huge drink. Drink

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>lots of wild turkey. Yeah. He At one point he

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>said he probably drank about a fifth of whiskey a

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>day with beer chasers in between. That's a lot, especially

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>when you're trying to control a motorcycle jumping a hundred

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and sixty three ft over some greyhound bus. Well, I

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think he would do those jumps wasted or anything,

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>but he would like probably drink afterwards. He would take

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>his traditional shot a wild turkey before. So you think

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>he did it straight? Yeah, I don't think he was

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>jump I'm very curious you think. Yeah. But a lot

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff, a lot of the dirt that we

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>know about Evil Knevil came out in a book by

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:27.239
<v Speaker 1>his former published publisher names Shelly Saltman. Yeah, that was

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a big deal in the documentary, so I think after

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the Snake River Jump in nineteen seventy four, Saltman published

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 1>a book about the jump um and it was an

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>authorized book, but Saltman decided to to point out that

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 1>um working working for Evil Knevil. A day spent working

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>for Evil Knievel was like spending three hours at the

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>dentists without novacaine. Um. That the he he said that

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.720
<v Speaker 1>he abused, He was abusive towards his family. That he

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>um was totally he hooked on drugs and drank and

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>was immoral and all this other stuff just completely hung out.

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>All the guy's dirty laundry may or may not have

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 1>made up rumors. Well, and this is when you could

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>still lead kind of a private life, like you know

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>about the stuff now, but um, it's not like today,

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>like if you're carousing women in bars, there's ten people

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:21.600
<v Speaker 1>filming you with a cell phone, right and like within

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 1>minutes it's like out on on the internet. No, this

0:31:24.200 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>is like it took a tell all biography for this

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff to get out, right. Um. So Evil

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Kinevel goes and finds the guy and attacks him with

0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 1>the baseball bat and had two broken arms at the time. Yeah,

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>oh he did. Yeah, he like left the hospital with

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>two broken arms and said give me that bat and

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>attacks his former good friend. Okay, like really badly well, bro, Yeah,

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>he shattered one of his arms. The guy had his

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>arm up to defend himself and that arm got shattered. Um,

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>And this was where everything really went off the rails. Um.

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>He did six months for that six months in jail,

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and this is at a time when his stars as

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>high as it could have possibly been. Um. Remember he

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>had those action figures from my deal that he was

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>making so much money. Going to prison actually voided his

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>contract with them, so he lost all of his licensing

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.479
<v Speaker 1>fees from that and that was a huge source of

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>his income at the time. Um. That him being in prison,

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>he had started the daredevil craze and there are lots

0:32:29.160 --> 0:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>of people nipping at his heels. Him going to jail

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>opened up this huge vacuum to where every daredevil in

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the world was trying to fill it. Now and there

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>was actually this guy that um that the house stuff

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>works recently ran a great article on called the Human Fly,

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and his star rose because he was trying to fill

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>this void left by Evil Kinevil when he was in prison.

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>So we're going to do a show on him too, right,

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 1>We've got to. Yeah, But so I won't say anything more. Okay, Um,

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>but but it was a big deal. This is where

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>things like really went downhill for him. But his son said,

0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>I read an interview with his son and the Guardian,

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>his oldest son, Kelly, who I think is like kind

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>of the the executor of his estate and everything. Um,

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>he said that this this definitely was where it went downhill.

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 1>But his life, his dad's life never circled the drain

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. He didn't like just go completely

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>overboorder off the rails, despite the fact that like the

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>family like lost all their finances within a few years. Um,

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>he had to pay Shelley Saltman twelve million dollars. Well,

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 1>he didn't pay him a cent. Oh, he didn't know

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:38.760
<v Speaker 1>he was ordered to er. Um. Yeah, there was a

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of like all the money just went away. Yeah yeah. Um.

0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>The reason he had to serve as full sentence. He

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>probably would not have had the judge not found out

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that in his prison work release program he was being

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>chafferd and a limousine convertible back and forth and arranged

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>for other inmates to get mamzine transportation for their work release.

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>So the judge didn't think that was very funny and said,

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what, You're gonna serve your whole sentence. So

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>he did six months, did the full six months, and

0:34:09.920 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like you said, his beyond just losing money for the licensing,

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.279
<v Speaker 1>it was just everything kind of went south for him

0:34:16.320 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 1>after that in life, his star fate was fading. Um,

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>it was not a great time to attack someone with

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 1>a baseball pat. You know. It wasn't like early in

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>his career he might have survived something like that. It's

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>not like nineteen forties or fifties, butte Montana. Yeah, but

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>people were kind of losing interest a bit. Well, yeah,

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 1>he he and he very wisely kind of faded back

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>into the woodwork a lot. Um. He had already stopped

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>doing stunts, but he he was still doing public appearances,

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 1>but more as like a motivational speaker or something like that.

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>This was where he like really began to retire. Yeah.

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.640
<v Speaker 1>He made his own movie in nineteen seventy seven called

0:34:55.719 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Viva kan Evil with gene Kelly. Sadly and um that

0:35:01.640 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>gene Kelly was in this. Gene Kelly's great. I know

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 1>it's sad for gene Kelly. He was in this garbage movie.

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Lauren Hutton was in it and um and she's great too.

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>Evil Kine Evil played himself as Evil Kine Evil, and

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.160
<v Speaker 1>he was bad and he his The plot was that

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:24.560
<v Speaker 1>he um foiled Mexican drug traffickers, right, yeah, I mean

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.759
<v Speaker 1>it kind of opens. I mean it was clearly him

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 1>saying like, this is the story I want to tell.

0:35:29.880 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it opens with him like rescuing an orphan on

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:35.479
<v Speaker 1>his motorcycle a lot of a bad orphanage, like riding

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>them out of there, and then he foils crimes and

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>forcing the orphan to make knockoff wallets. Yeah, and that,

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, he even charms. I think the thing in

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>the review I read said he quote eventually charms the

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>feminist reporter assigned to him, which was Lauren Hutton. Really,

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, so he was one of those like you know,

0:35:57.560 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 1>what do you what do you like? He's writing a

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:03.280
<v Speaker 1>bad article on me. Watch this, I'll charm the socks

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 1>off of you, pants off. It's worth watching a bit

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 1>of that, or at least a trailer hunt. I definitely

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>i'd watched that movie for sure. I want to see

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the George Hamilton's movie of him. George, It's Hamilton's as

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Evil Kine Evil I'm sure even George Hamilton's was like me, Well,

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>McConaughey for years was gonna do a movie. He would

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>have been perfect. I think he kind of had that

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>look a little bit. Yeah, but now I think that

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>movie has been trying to be made for so many

0:36:37.920 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 1>years now. It is currently Darren Aronofsky directing Channing Tatum

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>as Evil Kine Evil really, so we'll see. Okay, I

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>like Channing Tatum, I do too, but he's just got

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 1>this um vulnerability that I don't think even he's aware

0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 1>of that he brings to every role. I don't think

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>it belongs anywhere near evil. Kannebl Well, that's true, because

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>he was like McConaughey would have been perfect. I think

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>he would. But Channing Tatum, he's he's one of those

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.200
<v Speaker 1>guys that did not want to like, but then it

0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>turned out like he was a pretty good actor and

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:21.319
<v Speaker 1>funny and sort of self deprecating despite his looks. So

0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I guess I do like this guy.

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing against him. I just don't think he

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 1>could be a good evil. Kannevil, Yeah, I hear you. Well,

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>he's an actor. Though he's an actor, he doesn't have

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to personify the role. Yeah, I guess if George Hamilton's

0:37:35.960 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>did it, Channing Tatum can do. I think I've told

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>this story before. One of my good friends said that

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>he saw George Hamilton's on The Tonight Show in the seventies,

0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and Hamilton's said that he never wore the same pair

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>of socks twice. He always wore a brand new pair

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>of socks. And my friend was like eight years old,

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and he was just thought that was the most like, yeah,

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 1>like exotic, wonderful thing of all time. And he's still

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.760
<v Speaker 1>thinks about George almost at Alexander Hamilton's of George Hamilton

0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>when he gets new socks and puts some money. Uh.

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.439
<v Speaker 1>So Kenneble ended up being married twice. His first wife,

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Linda thirty eight years. She hung him through the thick

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and then uh, he divorced and then married a woman

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:25.640
<v Speaker 1>named Crystal Kennedy for two years they were married. Yeah,

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 1>but apparently they've been together for a very long time,

0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and so he's like, while he was previously married, I

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 1>believe so um I saw I saw her described as

0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 1>his long time partner. Yeah, she helped him after during

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 1>his illness, and it was a sad thing. At the

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>end for his his family and friends to see him

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that way, right, Well, well, apparently they when they were

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>married for two years, they divorced and then reconciled and

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:56.640
<v Speaker 1>then lived together as friends, um, but unmarried. They never remarried,

0:38:56.680 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>but they stayed very close. Yeah. And he eventually he

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 1>died of well what was it exactly? He died oddly

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>enough of diabetes, Okay, Well, he had idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis,

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>so I believe he actually, um had a heart condition

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 1>is what it sounds like, you no, a lung condition

0:39:17.480 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>of breathing problem. And I guess the impression I have

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>is that he just had just worn his body down. Yeah,

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't like, uh he broke bone or slipped

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>on a banana peel or something like you'd expect you. Yeah,

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and his when uh in any of the documentaries, his

0:39:34.960 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 1>friends and family talked about how sad it is when

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<v Speaker 1>you see someone that lived a life like he did

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<v Speaker 1>to be so sick and uh. And I think he

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<v Speaker 1>converted to Christianity late in life and sort of he

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<v Speaker 1>was baptized publicly. Yeah. I tried to come clean about

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<v Speaker 1>not having done the right thing. A lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, kind of the classic story deathbed regrets,

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<v Speaker 1>but he he became. I mean, he was a led

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<v Speaker 1>and he's an American legend for sure. Yeah. He was

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<v Speaker 1>buried in a butte in two thousand seven and one

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<v Speaker 1>kind of cool thing that happened. He very much. They

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<v Speaker 1>call him like the Godfather of the X Games because

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<v Speaker 1>he has kind of inspired all that stuff, and they

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<v Speaker 1>brought him back to the X Games before he died

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<v Speaker 1>and paid tribute to him. And it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>cool seeing all these kids that were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're you're the dude, like you are evil Kinevil.

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<v Speaker 1>He got to experience that, yeah, because he he was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of broke at this point and not doing well

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<v Speaker 1>and he saw all these people kind of uh paying

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<v Speaker 1>homage to him and saying like You're the reason all

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<v Speaker 1>this is here. That's cool and I'm sure he's probably well,

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<v Speaker 1>can I get a cut of it? You just said

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<v Speaker 1>I was a reason? You know? He get my lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone. His very famous mostly white in red

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<v Speaker 1>and blue jumpsuit. I never already wouldn't say it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>and his motorcycle are in the Smithsonian. Yeah, the good

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<v Speaker 1>old white, blue and red right. That's how true patriots

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<v Speaker 1>say it. That's right. If you want to know more

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<v Speaker 1>about evil Knevil, you can't because there's nothing more to

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<v Speaker 1>know because we said everything. But in its Just in case,

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<v Speaker 1>you can type those words in the search bar of

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite search engine. You know, we'll bring up some

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting stuff. And since I said search engine, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for listener mail. I'm gonna call this differential equations.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, big fan, it's really excited on the latest

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<v Speaker 1>show on chaos theory, maybe the most irrelevant episode in

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<v Speaker 1>my line I worked thus far. I'm a PhD student

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<v Speaker 1>mechanical engineering at Auburn University boo, and I'm currently instructing

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<v Speaker 1>a class on system dynamics and controls. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned differential equations. Been harping on my students on

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of UH the dif eq UH. But it

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<v Speaker 1>is a hard sell. Uh, It's not hard to believe,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Even more relevant was your decision on deterministic systems.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas my work deals primarily with determinism's evil relative UH

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<v Speaker 1>stochastic systems randomness. My field of research involves state estimation, which,

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<v Speaker 1>put crudely, is the practice of applying statistics to make

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<v Speaker 1>the best guess of a systems state i e. Position, timmature, pressure, etcetera. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the beauty of estimation lies in its ability to use

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge of a measurements uncertainty, or even the uncertainty in

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<v Speaker 1>the initial condition, for producing an optimal estimate. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>could go on and on. I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>great show, great episode, great podcast. A side note was

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<v Speaker 1>the Isaac Cream Newton bit a nod to Wu Tang

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<v Speaker 1>clan as in cash rules everything around me c R

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<v Speaker 1>e A. M. Cream Get the money, Get the money,

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<v Speaker 1>dollar bills bills, y'all, Dollar dollar bills, y'all. That's from

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Dans multi talented. Yeah, he's into Wu Tang and

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<v Speaker 1>mechanical engineering. Yeah, at Auburn and he's doing it all

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<v Speaker 1>my kineevil. Thanks a lot, Dan, We appreciate that. Uh.

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