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Speaker 2: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks. DJ back

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Speaker 1: We say, DJ, I missed you at the Big Content summit.

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Speaker 1: You were on a cruise or I don't know, you're

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Speaker 3: Have you been out? How long have you been out?

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Speaker 3: What have you been doing?

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Speaker 2: No, I've been back since then. So I came back

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Speaker 2: there his year two. You know, they get off campus. Lance.

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Speaker 2: We got to get into the apartment, and you know

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Speaker 4: On around were you were able to experience the Heat

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Speaker 1: We've we've been over one hundred degrees for like twenty

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it has been pretty hot in East County here

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Speaker 3: I want you to feel that they want to act.

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Speaker 2: We are going to hit a couple of topics off

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Speaker 2: against different guys. It's a senior Bowl practice. It more

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Speaker 2: They have jamboree in Texas. I know in Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: basically like a scrimmage and it could be three teams

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Speaker 2: So some of these teams don't take the wors sitting

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Speaker 3: By the way. They have aspirations higher.

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Speaker 1: think I can tell you're angling for a competition committee

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Speaker 1: poll do you have pool there with that hat going

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Speaker 3: Hey, true story, true story job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's good. I think we'll leave Roger alone. He's

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Speaker 2: he's got that thing on lockdown. Uh the uh, this

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea how I stumbled upon it. I

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Speaker 2: a book report on an NFL officials autobiography. Wow, it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jerry Marright, that's unbelievable. I'm trying to like look

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Speaker 2: It's one of those guys like if you see him,

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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, no, I I recognize him. I'm looking for

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Speaker 3: what the book is here. It is that Last Call.

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Speaker 2: Find it Last Call Memoirs the NFL Referee.

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Speaker 3: That's what I read. How long is it that you

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Speaker 1: In in case you were or there's way wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: there's also Born to Referee My Life on the Grid.

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Speaker 2: Can't recall which one I got. I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: Give me the release date? Can you give me the

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Speaker 1: Oh, let's see, I'm looking for last call Way Born

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to see the release date on this.

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Speaker 5: to be like, this is nineteen eighty eight. Yes, that's it,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you. This thing was hot off the press.

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Speaker 2: I jumped right on that.

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Speaker 3: You were an early adapter. It's still available. People want

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Speaker 2: Check that out, Check that out. All right, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: right now for yards by a rookie tight end is

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Speaker 2: held by Mike Ditka. It's been a minute. That was

439
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Speaker 2: nineteen sixty one, and it's not like it was fourteen

440
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Speaker 2: hundred yards. Ditka had one thousand and seventy six yards,

441
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Speaker 2: twelve touchdowns, getting the end zone a big mic, but

442
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,359
Speaker 2: a thousand, seventy six. Now, Kyle Pitts I thought when

443
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Speaker 2: he came to the league he would destroy that. He's

444
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Speaker 2: one of the highest graded tight ends I've ever evaluated.

445
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Speaker 2: He came just short. He got ony twenty six yards,

446
00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 2: only one touchdown in twenty one though, did not get

447
00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,399
Speaker 2: an end zone much. But as you I'm sure have

448
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 2: been doing, I've visited camps, I've talked to people. You

449
00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 2: see clips, and we really liked this tight group coming

450
00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,720
Speaker 2: into the draft last year. We talked an awful lot

451
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Speaker 2: about it, and then it looks like where we are now,

452
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,200
Speaker 2: we've got guys that are not only going to be contributors,

453
00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,800
Speaker 2: are going to be starters and in some of them

454
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,840
Speaker 2: have a chance to be real key pieces here for

455
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Speaker 2: their offense. So what should be the reasonable expectation for

456
00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 2: the tight ends in your opinion? And is there two

457
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Speaker 2: or three of them that you think, just based off

458
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Speaker 2: the situation and they're in that they're equipped to have

459
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Speaker 2: a really good year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I really do think.

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Speaker 1: Well, Number one, can you tell me who was the

462
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Speaker 1: only tight end ever to win Offensive.

463
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Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year, Eric Green? No, it's a trick question.

464
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Speaker 1: None ever really, no offensive Rookie of the Year, No

465
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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, no offensive lineman or tight end has ever

466
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Speaker 1: won Offensive Rookie of the Year ever. And this award

467
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Speaker 1: dates back into the sixties. It's never happened. And I,

468
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Speaker 1: like you, was very high on Kyle Pitts. I was

469
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Speaker 1: very high on this class, the deepest class that I've taken.

470
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Speaker 3: A look at.

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Speaker 1: And to me, your you know, your top three, It

472
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Speaker 1: depends on top three or four tight ends.

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Speaker 3: They were all.

474
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Speaker 1: There was all differences to him, and I think the

475
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Speaker 1: two that stand out to me. Look, Sam Laporte, if

476
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Speaker 1: you look over there in Detroit, there's not a lot

477
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Speaker 1: of weapons at the tight end position, right now, who

478
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Speaker 1: automatically would play ahead of Laporte. I just think a Laporta.

479
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Speaker 1: I just think Laporta has to prove he can block

480
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm a little concerned about how he's

481
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Speaker 1: going to do as a blocker. But for me, my

482
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Speaker 1: number one tight end, just by a shade, was Luke Musgrave.

483
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Speaker 1: For all the things that people are seeing in camp,

484
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Speaker 1: because to me on tape man I could see it.

485
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Speaker 1: I thought, I thought the kid was terrific. He's big,

486
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Speaker 1: he's athletic, he can run, he can separate. I think

487
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Speaker 1: he really translates well to the NFL. And one of

488
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Speaker 1: the reasons I think he's got a chance to be,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, to maybe even approach the nine hundred yard

490
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Speaker 1: mark is because I don't think these wide receivers that

491
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Speaker 1: they have over there are great at getting wide open.

492
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Speaker 1: And I think Jordan Love, who's still kind of a

493
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Speaker 1: rookie almost in terms of it's his first year as

494
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Speaker 1: a full time starter, I think he wants to find

495
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Speaker 1: the most open receivers he can find. I think a

496
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Speaker 1: lot of these young quarterbacks struggle to get used to

497
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Speaker 1: the NFL open and what it looks like. And I

498
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Speaker 1: think Musgrave the way that they're going to move him around,

499
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Speaker 1: the way he can play inside, he can play outside,

500
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Speaker 1: he can play in the slot. I think that he's

501
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Speaker 1: going to be a safety blanket for Jordan Love. A

502
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 1: lot of young quarterbacks love to find talented wide receivers

503
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Speaker 1: with athletics or tight ends with athleticism. So I think

504
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Speaker 1: he's gonna get a lot of touches over there and

505
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Speaker 1: a lot of targets. I think Musgrave is a guy

506
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Speaker 1: who could really see a lot of action.

507
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Speaker 3: But to me, you're still looking at Dalton Kincaid.

508
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Speaker 1: I mean, we know that there's been some it's been

509
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Speaker 1: a little weird with Stefan Diggs in Buffalo. We know

510
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Speaker 1: how incredibly talented he is. We know that the quarterback's

511
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Speaker 1: going to find him. But Gabe Davis has been feast

512
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 1: or famine a little bit. And when I look at

513
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Speaker 1: Dalton and you and I both know, Look, you can

514
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: love Cole Beasley from the slot when he was there,

515
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 1: but this guy's a slot receiver too, with size and

516
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: un believable hands. So it doesn't matter if you're a

517
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: receiver a tight end, you're a slot. Now he's automatic

518
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: with the hands, and he could become really a guy

519
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: that is hard to match up with for defenses. I

520
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,880
Speaker 1: think Dalton kin Kaid and Luke Musgrave are the two

521
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Speaker 1: for me that have a chance to have real high

522
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 1: impacts more so than the normal rookies out there at

523
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Speaker 1: the position.

524
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Speaker 2: Can I give you kind of who are reminded me

525
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: of a little bit here just I watched the preseason

526
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Speaker 2: for these guys. So Musgrave he kind of reminds me

527
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: of Jimmy Graham a little bit, just how he looks.

528
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: So he's so big and he runs so well. Now,

529
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: I think that his production is going to come a

530
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: couple different ways. He's going to get production on shallow Crosses.

531
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Speaker 2: They're going to get him out in the flat. They're

532
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: going to get him down the scene. That's where he's

533
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: going to be on the move, and he's going to

534
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: be able to make things happen after the catch. With

535
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 2: his speed, he's gonna be able to climb on top.

536
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: He's you know, all that's going to be him. The

537
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 2: difference between him and Kinkaid. Kinkaid is going to be

538
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: able to be able to sift and sort through zones

539
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: and be able to play in space and feel the

540
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: game a little bit better and be able to collect.

541
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Speaker 2: You know, maybe it's third and seven. He's going to

542
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: be your option route guy. He's going to be able

543
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: to do all that stuff. See the defense, identify it,

544
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: feel it, separate, settle in in soft spots and zones.

545
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: I think Musgrave from an instinct standpoint, is not at

546
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 2: you know, in that similar vein. I think you're going

547
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: to use his athleticism. So there's different styles of what

548
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: you're going to ask these guys to do. And I

549
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: think Laporta would be the third one. To me, those

550
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: are the three guys I'm looking for having, you know,

551
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: really really prominent roles for their offenses. Laporta is a

552
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: little bit of a mixture. He can give you a

553
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: little bit of both. He can really really run, but

554
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 2: I think he has a little bit of a feel

555
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 2: in there as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with you.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing about Kincaid for me is that

558
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do offensively, I think he's going

559
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 1: to work. He's he's a wide receiver in a tight

560
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: ends body. In terms of his his savvy with route running,

561
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: his instincts as a pass catcher, he is going to

562
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: be more polished. Musgrave has a lot of upside and

563
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: he can win with athleticism. But you're right from a

564
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: Polish standpoint, he's really not that close to Muskrag because

565
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: he's not that close to Kink because kin Kate played

566
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: a lot more football.

567
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: Musgrave hasn't played that much football to this point.

568
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I am a bullish talked about Darnell Washington.

569
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Speaker 2: The one thing I haven't heard much about it, and

570
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen much about him as mayor. I don't

571
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 2: know what's going on with him with the Raiders. I

572
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 2: don't know if you'd seen anything there yet at all.

573
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Speaker 3: No, I haven't.

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Speaker 2: You know.

575
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Speaker 1: I considered him in my Pivotal Rookie conversation, but I'd

576
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: read a little bit about Mayor he is because I

577
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: try to catch up with all the rookies when I

578
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: wrote my Pivotal Rookie article that we'll talk about in

579
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, I think Mayor is. When you look

580
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: at who's out there to catch passes and who the

581
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: quarterback is, it wouldn't surprise me if Mayor is there.

582
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: I would think they might run a lot more too

583
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 1: tight stuff over there for Jimmy g because I think

584
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: he'll be more comfortable and.

585
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: A lot of too tight.

586
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Speaker 1: So that should give Mayor a chance to you know,

587
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: be five hundred yard guy. I don't think it's going

588
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: to be a massive, massive plus statistically, but I do

589
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: think the way he blocks in the running game could

590
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: really play a big part and helping uh. The Raiders

591
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: lean on the running game to really help Garoppolo out

592
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: because you know they you know, they want to run

593
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Speaker 1: a football.

594
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: They did it well last year, you know they're going

595
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: to want to do it this year.

596
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 1: That's something Mare does a good job of to me

597
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: is get after a defensive ends and can kind of

598
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Speaker 1: soften the edge a little bit.

599
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 2: If I were you and I was going to be

600
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: driving wearing that hat, I'm not using my blinkers. I'm

601
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: just using all hand signals out the window. I think

602
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 2: it just goes. I think it works. I think it fits.

603
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, just giving the first down signals, I'm going to

604
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: be making out.

605
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: The right turn than the arm out.

606
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: It's like the bicycle stuff.

607
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: The thing is like as you get older, like I don't,

608
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: I can't really put my arm down this way anymore

609
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: because my shoulders.

610
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, and this has the I mean, everything

611
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: about this feels official too, like it feels it's kind

612
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: of foaming right here. Yeah, I got it from the

613
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: league store. I got it from the NFL store that

614
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 1: we can order from. It probably is something that the league.

615
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: By the way, there's this there's this fictitious store. I've

616
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: heard about all these years, and I somehow man's never

617
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: get a link to the said store.

618
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: I know. This is the first time I found it.

619
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Speaker 1: I didn't see that we got any kind of special

620
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: codes to get big discounts. I just bought some NFL

621
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: stuff that was unclearance. I'm like, yeah, let's do some

622
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: early Christmas shopping.

623
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: For the kids. Look what daddy got from the Link store.

624
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: Like when you go to the mall, do you think

625
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: that people think like, oh my gosh, this guy, I

626
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: think he's an official. I think that that's wow weird.

627
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: I know I've seen him. I know I've seen him.

628
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: I go in and I try to get you know,

629
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: the Annie's, uh, the pretzels things. Yeah, yeah, I try

630
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: to get discounts over there with this. Hey, how you

631
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: guys doing You guys ever watched Pro football? You heard

632
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: of Jerry Mark Bright. He's an author and an official.

633
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: You may know him as an author. You look young.

634
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: You've probably read about him.

635
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: I'm sure Scarlet Letter and Referee in the memoirs of

636
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 4: Jerry Mark.

637
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, all right, let's get to your pivotal rookies.

638
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: As I cry, literally tears crying here, afc East, give

639
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 2: me a pivotal rookie. Pivotal is a dumb word. By

640
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: the way, that pivotal is a word that somebody they

641
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: went to a state school, is trying to sound smart

642
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 2: as someone who went from a state school, I can

643
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: say that.

644
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: So let me let me just say pivotal to me.

645
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: I decided to give it my own. It doesn't necessarily

646
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: mean they're going to be the best. I think they

647
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: may be the most important for their team. And then

648
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 1: for some teams obviously it means different things. Uh. And

649
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: we already talked to Dalton, k and Kate. I'm gonna

650
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: give you another one. I think Will McDonald from the Jets.

651
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: When you look at the Jets, you could come up

652
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: with a couple of different guys here on this one.

653
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Joe Tipman could end up being the pivotal rookie if

654
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,479
Speaker 1: he wants the starting position. But rushing the passer is

655
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: something that they've really wanted to get better at New

656
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: York for a long time. And I think Will McDonald,

657
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: who's going to be a wave rusher, He's not gonna be.

658
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: He's not a guy that's gonna be setting edges and

659
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: stopping a run on first down. But to me, the

660
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: Jets have a chance to really we know they can

661
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: shut down one side of the field with Sauce Gardner.

662
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: I think Will Anderson is just to pin the years

663
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: back and go type of pass rusher. McDonald, I mean

664
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: Will McDonald if he can, he's bendy, he's flexible, he's

665
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: got a great inside spin.

666
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: I think his ability.

667
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: To assail the pocket is really quote unquote pivotal for

668
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: the Jets potential to win the division. They got to

669
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: get a rush, they've got to get a better rush,

670
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: and that guy has some real ability. He has translatable

671
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: NFL traits I think to get into the pocket early on.

672
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, think about it from a baseball standpoint,

673
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: the Jets every game is gonna be a bullpen game

674
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: where you don't need guys to give you six innings.

675
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna just roll guys out there and say two innings,

676
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 2: give me everything you got So if you throw normally

677
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: you throw ninety three ninety four over six seven innings,

678
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 2: you're gonna be throwing ninety seven ninety eight because you

679
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: only gonna have to play two innings. We got so

680
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: many guys, we're gonna keep all you guys fresh. Just

681
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: roll and roll and rolling, rolling, and guess what, whoever

682
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: lines up next to Quinn Williams, you're getting one on ones.

683
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: You're not. You're not gonna ever see a double with

684
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: him there. So it's gonna be a feast on the outside.

685
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: They've got gosh, they've got six ends they can roll

686
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 2: through there.

687
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's got defensive Rookie of the Year. Potentially,

688
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: he's kind of a long shot because he won't play

689
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: every day.

690
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: He's gonna know, but he's gonna he's gonna have you

691
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: know what he's gonna have. He's gonna have like nine

692
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: sacks in like twenty tackles. Like he's just gonna have

693
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: like Houston, like Houston had last year in Detroit. Uh,

694
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: if you look up James Houston's number, they used similar

695
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: to that. Yeah, that's probably that might be the blueprint

696
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: here early on, as he's getting his feet wet I

697
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: think so.

698
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: I think so, especially for a player his size. He's

699
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: a little lighter, but he's tough and and he has

700
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: skill as a rusher. I go to the AFC North

701
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: now and I'm gonna look at the Bengals. I went

702
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: DJ Turner. The reason I went DJ Turner in this one.

703
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: He's the cornerback from Michigan. Is one of the things

704
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: we saw at Kansas City, and they aspire to be

705
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Right to beat the man, you gotta beat

706
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: the man. One of the things we saw at Kansas

707
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: City is rookie cornerbacks. Having depth at the cornerback position

708
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: is extremely important. And if you can play in the

709
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: slot and play outside, which I think Turner has the

710
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: ability to do because of his speed in his short

711
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: area route matching, I think that gives him that much

712
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: more value. And if there's any injuries at all, Turner,

713
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: to me is one of those keys for a team

714
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: that has aspirations of winning a Super Bowl. You need

715
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: to have guys in the secondary that can play. And

716
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: so whether he plays well or doesn't play well, that's

717
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: why I think he could be the pivotal Bengal because

718
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: you're going to be facing Kansas City. Right, you may

719
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: be facing the Chargers, you may be facing the Bills

720
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: or the Dolphins. There's a ton of offense in the AFC,

721
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: and so having depth at cornerback and a guy who

722
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: can play inside or outside, to me, is extremely valuable.

723
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: And that's why I thought he was pivotal in that

724
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: particular instance.

725
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: All Right, I need you to check the chat here

726
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: on the video, and I'm just gonna let you know

727
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: that that's an interesting call. But I'd like to challenge.

728
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, we have a challenge. Uh do I

729
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 1: need to look into the booth? Do I need to

730
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: do I need to look into booth?

731
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: Who?

732
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: Okay, Daniel Jeremiah is challenging the call on the field? Okay,

733
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: who do you think is the most pivotal?

734
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: I just wanted to hear you say what that had

735
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: on the previous opinion is under review.

736
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: Previous opinion is under review. And then I can do

737
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 3: this something. I can put it over my head and.

738
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: Look into the way they used to look into it. Uh,

739
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: you always get a theme. It was it's the last time.

740
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: This is the Jerry marks that develops.

741
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: Jerry mark Bright's name is not in the description of

742
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: this episode, then all we have failed as.

743
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Failed miserably and people will read it like, how did

744
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: Mark Bright come up on this? Uh, I've got one

745
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: for you, Houston Texans. You know, I said Stroud and Anderson,

746
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna have their ups and downs. It's a low

747
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: hanging fruit. Indeed, Tank Dell, if he plays well or

748
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: doesn't play well, happening.

749
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: I drafted him in a fantas league.

750
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I love I think Tank Dell's not guardable.

751
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: He wasn't guardable in the season. He wasn't guarded guardable

752
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: with the senior boy, He's not going to be guardable now.

753
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: But I think Jewe Scruggs is the most pivotal and

754
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: here's why he's going to step in a rookie into

755
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: the center position. If he plays well in an outside

756
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: zone based scheme with Bobby Slowick, it can have a

757
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: big It could be a big, big deal. I mean,

758
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: rookies need to be smart, and by all accounts, he

759
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: is an intelligent and high character football guy. Jew Scruggs,

760
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: But being able to protect the passer Kenyon Green was

761
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: a mess last year at left guard, So if he's

762
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: starting their left guard this year and you got a

763
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: rookie at center. You know, JEWE Scruggs is really going

764
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: to have to play well for that offense to reach

765
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: even its potential. Right now with the rookie quarterback and CJ. Stroud,

766
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: They've invested a lot in CJ.

767
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: Stroud.

768
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: They really need him to start his career off with

769
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: a certain level of confidence. And so I think from

770
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: a pivotal standpoint having Jew Scruggs the center from Penn State,

771
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: who I thought was overdrafted a little bit, but I

772
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: still like him a lot. And you know, just like

773
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: I do, that was a name that was really hot

774
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: with a lot of teams. Everyone seemed to really like

775
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: Jew Scruggs. I think that I think he's gonna be

776
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: pivotal for the Texans. Having a rookie who plays intelligently

777
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: and consistently as a run blocker and pass blocker. That's

778
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: big when you have a rookie quarterback.

779
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: Yep, I like that one. How about the AFC West.

780
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: AFC West, I will give you well, okay, let's I'll

781
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: let you get into a little bit.

782
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: I went Quintin Johnston.

783
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't really think there was another one with the Chargers,

784
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: but you tell me if there's someone else that you

785
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: would point to, But for me, it's really about adding

786
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: that that next weapon. If you want to you're gonna

787
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: have to outscore a team at some point, you're gonna

788
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: have to just put a big number up. And I

789
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: think Johnston he has some things he has to prove

790
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, But I think Quinton Johnston's ability to

791
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: get down the field when he needs to and his

792
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: run after catch stuff, to me, that's a really really

793
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: big deal for the Chargers and could really add some

794
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: juice to an offense. It's starting to me a little

795
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: bit long in the tooth from a wide receiver standpoint.

796
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: So I didn't know your thoughts on Quentin Johnson or

797
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: any other rookie out there that you think is a

798
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: pivotal rookie.

799
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, look, early returns have been really positive.

800
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: I've been out there for three practices have been obviously

801
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: called the preseason game. Now, Quentin dropped a couple balls

802
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: in the first preseason game and then he was out

803
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: of the game and you're thinking, oh gosh, this is

804
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: going to end up being a storyline, you know, is

805
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 2: the questions about his hands, and then they got him

806
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: back in for one play in the second quarter and

807
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 2: if he's in the slot, shows you some big time

808
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: twitch and separation, catches a touchdown and it kind of

809
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: changed the narrative coming out of that game. My thing

810
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: on him is live with some of the drops, like

811
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: don't don't be shocked, don't be surprised, don't even be

812
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: upset about it. He's going to have some drops, but

813
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: he's going to be able to offset those with big

814
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: plays down the field, which is his role. That's what

815
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: his role is going to be. But I would tell

816
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: you Lance, like Scott Mattlock, if he doesn't start, he's

817
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: going to get a a lot of minutes here the offensive.

818
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: Well, he was he's an impressive physical specimen. I mean

819
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: he really jumped out on tape.

820
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: That's testing byss freak sixty four, three hundred sixth round. Yeah,

821
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: this is and this is on the heels of last

822
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: year getting Sawyer in that round. So they've kind of,

823
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 2: you know, found a little something here in the trenches

824
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: late in the draft. And then Twoey Polo two is

825
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: going to be the third end. He's going to play

826
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: a lot, He'll be He's going to be really helpful,

827
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: especially on rundowns. It's odd to say for a guy

828
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: who led the nation in sacks, but heavy handed point

829
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: of attack is probably going to be his calling card

830
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: early in the early in the part of his career.

831
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 2: And then Darius Davis, who had a punt return for

832
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 2: a touchdown the other day, is going to be their returner,

833
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: so he'll have.

834
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 3: What's he playing at? What kind of weight does he play?

835
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: I think he's probably to sixty five to seventy.

836
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 1: Good right, He'll be very physical, but he's really He's

837
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: a really good athlete as well, has really good feet.

838
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: I think the way he plays NFC North that went

839
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: Darnell right with the Bears. I mean, look, Terrell Smith,

840
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: I reached out out and to bear contact and was

841
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: asking about the corners, and Terrell Smith, who's banged up

842
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: right now, and Tyree Stevens are both playing really, really

843
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: well when they've been out there. So I do think

844
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: that corner position is important. But you've got so much

845
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: hanging in the balance with your quarterback right now, with

846
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: justin fields, Darnell Wright's ability to play at a reasonably

847
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: high level to play I think above average, could have

848
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: an impact on the Bears, making one of the biggest

849
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: jumps in pro football this year. I really think with

850
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: some of the moves that they've made and some of

851
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: the draft picks they have, if Darnell right plays well,

852
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: that could be a I could have a really big

853
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: impact on Justin Field's future and the consistency of the

854
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: Bears offense.

855
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: I would say real quick that on those guys. On

856
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: Stevenson specifically, because for those of know A Lance and

857
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: I talk darn near every day as we get into

858
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: the spring, like we are talking about these players were

859
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: studying for the draft. It's really, really, it's great with.

860
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: Matt Locke came up, Scott, Mattlock came up late in

861
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: the conversation.

862
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: He did, he did, he did. But Tyrek Stevenson, I

863
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: remember you remember this conversation. But to me, like the

864
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: kind of like the sneaky glue ingredient for corners when

865
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: you self evaluate, look at the guys that I look at,

866
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: guys I've missed on, look at guys that have been

867
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: able to hit on over the last five years. I

868
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: would say, specifically, because of what these offensive coordinators have

869
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: done to pull corners in to run support, that toughness

870
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: is non negotiable. And if you look at the guys

871
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: who have flamed out, usually that's a trait that they're missing.

872
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: And you look at the guys who have overachieved, usually

873
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: that's a strength for them, is their toughness. And Tyrek

874
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: Stevenson was a bad dude.

875
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: Man.

876
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 2: He was so tough and so competitive. You can nitpick

877
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: this or that, but at the end of the day,

878
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 2: and you've got some size and speed and you're incredibly

879
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 2: competitive and tough, like, that's the guy you bet on.

880
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: And it's not a surprise that he's off to a

881
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 2: really good start.

882
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: No, And it's not just that, but the toughness manifests

883
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: itself in terms of competitive catch situations. I mean, you're

884
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: not a tough guy in one area, but then not

885
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: tough in the other.

886
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: If you're tough, you're tough.

887
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of physically if you can hold up.

888
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: And he's he's got the build for it.

889
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: So I remember I remember sending you a clip of that.

890
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: I remember I think it was the Florida State game

891
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: where he had been so in this receiver's head that

892
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: eventually the receiver just snapped and you see him trying

893
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: to punch him and hit him in the face and

894
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I'm like, I think he broke him Lance.

895
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: I think Stevenson broke this dude.

896
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: And he's a pressman corner who is Yeah, the only

897
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: issues he has to me are he's not his own corner.

898
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: You don't want to put him in his own situations.

899
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: He had some real issues.

900
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: But if you get a press, if he gets to

901
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: pressed and stay in your pocket, he's going to be tough.

902
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to Alonzo Heigsmith, who's the GM

903
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: over with the Miami Hurricanes for Mario Cristobal and Zoe

904
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: and I were talking about him a little bit. He said,

905
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: he's tough, like he's gonna be. He's gonna be a

906
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: good NFL player. You know, Alonzo Highsmith has had that

907
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: job in the NFL evaluation the front office.

908
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 2: Zoe is one of the toughest human beings that's ever

909
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: put on cleats.

910
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: To ever ever.

911
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: And he loved this kid's toughness too, And he knows

912
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: fake tough and Tyreek Stevenson is not fake tough, not

913
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination. So he could end

914
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: up being Listen, he could end up being one of

915
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: the pivotal rookies. Frankly, I think two or three could

916
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: be for the Bears moving to the AFC South. It

917
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: was kind of you know, Bjon Robins, Yeah, Rice Young,

918
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: Brian Breesy were all the guys.

919
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 3: But I said Cody Mock for the Bucks because.

920
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: You can't say I think is going to be a

921
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: good player, but they really need to get that offense

922
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: back on track. And I think Mock's transition from tackle

923
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: to guard and learning to play against higher level of

924
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: competition is going to be quote unquote pivotal for whether

925
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: or not Baker Mayfield or whoever ends up at quarterback

926
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: can get on track enough for that offense to matter

927
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: this year. The offense was not good last year, and

928
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: so I think Cody Mock is kind of pivotal in

929
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: that regard. I learning to play that it's a hard

930
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: transition to make, but if he can make it, it's

931
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: not a super tough division.

932
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: I don't think, you know, the Bucks.

933
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: Maybe the Bucks can be a little better than people

934
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: think if he can play well.

935
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: I like that. By the way, if you uh, if

936
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: Kyle Trask ends up getting that job, I mean, what

937
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: do we uh were going with Kyle's kids, Like, what

938
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 2: do we what's that section of the stadium where we

939
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: have like the Trask fan club what we call on

940
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: that thing.

941
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: I like Kyle's kids. That's not bad.

942
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Uh, Kyle smiles where he does a dental thing.

943
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 3: We're nice.

944
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: White teeth whitening as well as we do we help,

945
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, with people that can't afford dental care, we

946
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: get them proper dental care like that.

947
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: Maybe we can get you know, maybe Tampa can get

948
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: an advertiser and bring a little money into so we can.

949
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: We're also generating revenue for the bucks, so you're welcome.

950
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe he sells organizers that donated for charity

951
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: and they keep you on Trask instead of one on Trask.

952
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that. That's a good one too.

953
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: There we go, NFC West, n f C West. I

954
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: think the one that would make the most sense, and

955
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: it's the one that has the biggest impact here would

956
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: be it's a first rounder and it's Jackson Smith and Jig.

957
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: But now I do want to also mention Jake Moody

958
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: as a kicker for the forty nine ers. I think

959
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: that is worth looking at because you just had a

960
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: very consistent Robbie Gold that you parted ways with and

961
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: now you're gonna have a rookie kicker coming in DJ.

962
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: You know, like I do, the amount of pressure that

963
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: is on a kicker is immense. As we get late

964
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: in the season, forty nine ers have high, high hopes

965
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: a rookie kicker. I know it kind of falls under

966
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: the radar, but I think Jake Moody with the forty

967
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: nine ers could end up being a very pivotal player

968
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: like a lot of kickers could. But Jack Jackson Smith

969
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: and Jiguin with Seattle, so DK is a certain kind

970
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: of He's kind of a niche receiver right in terms

971
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: of the routes he's gonna run.

972
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 3: And then you've got you've.

973
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: Got a guy who's Lockett, a jitterbug wide receiver who

974
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: can do a lot of different things.

975
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: Over with Tyler Lockett. Yeah, Tyler Lockett.

976
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: Now you put a bigger guy with great hands who

977
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: can run possession routes. And that's that third piece of

978
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: the puzzle. Bucket always talks about the basketball team at

979
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Now Gino Smith has that basketball team at

980
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver.

981
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: Truly, three different types of wide receivers.

982
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: You know, people kind of sleep on thirty one touchdowns,

983
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: ten interceptions.

984
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: Was the year that Gino had Last year had a

985
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 3: really good year.

986
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: Is there a chance you look at what's going on

987
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: at quarterback with San Francisco?

988
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: Could it be a little unsettled? We'll see.

989
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: I mean, if party plays like you did last year,

990
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: they're fine. But Canny we'll find out. Don't like Arizona much. Rams.

991
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: We've got to see what the Rams are gonna do.

992
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: Is there any reason to believe that a team that

993
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: had nine wins and surprise people last year can't get

994
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: even better offensively and maybe make a little bit more

995
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,919
Speaker 1: noise and become a ten win season this year? I think,

996
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: I think, I think Jackson Smith and Jigba really helps

997
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: that offense go from being a good offense to a

998
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: very good offense quickly.

999
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to see as we get to the

1000
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: to the end of the episode, can you just give

1001
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 2: me one of these.

1002
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: Out?

1003
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just give you time out right there, Sportsman, Yeah,

1004
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: there we go, got Man's that's I mean, it is amazing.

1005
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: That is a that is a good hat.

1006
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: It is a great hat. It's a great hat. All right,

1007
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 2: that's great stuff. Again. You can find the rest of

1008
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: the list. Lance did this for all thirty two teams again,

1009
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: Pivotal Pivotal, Pivotal Pivotal rookies that we've got one for

1010
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: every team. You can find that on NFL dot Com.

1011
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: What else you're working on? Man? What else can I

1012
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 2: plug for you here?

1013
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 3: No, that's right now, that's it.

1014
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm just getting ready to I'm getting my my scouting

1015
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: list together. I'm putting my names together for who I'm

1016
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: going to be looking up, and so I'm just gonna

1017
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: get ready to start taking an early look at some

1018
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: of the players riding some you know, just some early

1019
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: ideas about who players are physically what they are, and

1020
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: start to gather my ideas.

1021
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: I like to I like to take it easy. I

1022
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: like to take it easy. After the draft's done, I

1023
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: go and cruise control a little bit now.

1024
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: So I just come on for the only thing I

1025
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: do is I do youth football games, obviously, referee. I

1026
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: will do some Baseball World Series watching, obviously because the

1027
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: Astros every single year. And then, by the way, how's

1028
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: it going with Wan Soto? I hear he's having some

1029
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: problems with some of his teammates. Is everything okay?

1030
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: It hasn't been great if you're sawing whale money that

1031
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 2: you have there and see, hey we're still in the

1032
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: team you wanted. So somehow we're still in it. I

1033
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: don't know how, but we're four and a half back.

1034
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: We just need a nice little wind streak here. We

1035
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 2: play a lot of teams that are ahead of us. Yeah,

1036
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: so we're not done yet. Here's my one here's my

1037
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: one homework assignment for you. So because of your your

1038
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: status with NFL media, you can get credentials to college games.

1039
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: So you as a media member, you can be a

1040
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: credentialed media member. So here's your assignment. I want you

1041
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: to go to like a University of Houston game. I

1042
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: want you to get a notepad like a like a

1043
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: notepad like this. I want you to wear that hat,

1044
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 2: and I want you to follow the college officials around

1045
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: during pregame and just act like you're act like you're

1046
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: taking notes. These guys are gonna think that the NFL

1047
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: is scouting them, that if they have a good game today,

1048
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: they're moving up. Maybe we are moving up. Just just

1049
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 2: fall around.

1050
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 3: I can just saying, hey, what's your name? Hey?

1051
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: Twenty seven twenty seven side judge Bill? Is it Bill, No, Steve,

1052
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: all right, thanks Steve, with this hat too.

1053
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: After a bang bang call, the call on the field

1054
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: has been overturned.

1055
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 3: First down, University of Houston. Hey, what's what's your name?

1056
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: What's your last name?

1057
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: The guy who just had his call overturned?

1058
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: You'd have something in it.

1059
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: But you see, every will know you in Houston, so

1060
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 2: you almost need to go somewhere where they don't know

1061
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: you and uh, and then just go there and just

1062
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: sit up in the press box with the hat on.

1063
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: And then when there's like, say there's a holding pill,

1064
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: just go dang it, Billy.

1065
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: It's just idea, the same stuff I deal with all

1066
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: the time. Dad, gummet, I'm gonna have to make a

1067
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 3: call to the office this stuff.

1068
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: Yes, that's so good.

1069
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: Well there goes his week.

1070
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: Hey, or or get somebody to video you while you're

1071
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: on the sideline. And if you if you just go

1072
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: to the official and go, hey, like your your pants, hey,

1073
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: pull them up, hey, pull them up a little bit,

1074
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: and just see if they think you're some kind of

1075
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: an authority figure with that hat on, and see if

1076
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: they do it.

1077
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

1078
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: The officials like, hey, you guys have a dress code too.

1079
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 3: We gotta be on. We gotta be in code, guys.

1080
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 2: Come on, man, come on now.

1081
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 3: I like it.

1082
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things I can do with this hat.

1083
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: We'll see if I get a speeding ticket with it.

1084
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's not gonna happen, all right again. To

1085
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Speaker 2: summarize Lance's pivotal rookies, NFL dot Com find it, Jerry

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Speaker 2: Mark writes book on being an official, Go get that thing?

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Speaker 2: Is that what it's running right now?

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Speaker 3: Five nine thrift thrifty books.

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Speaker 2: Five ninety nine thrifty books. You won't regret it. At

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Speaker 2: least that's what fourteen year old me or thirteen year

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Speaker 2: old me, whatever it was, read that book. Thought it

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Speaker 2: was amazing. So and I don't know where the report is,

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Speaker 2: but I'm sure that. I'm sure that, like I guess

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Speaker 2: maybe yeah, sixth grade, so twelve years old, twelve years old.

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Speaker 2: You know the people they're getting like you know these

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Speaker 2: reports on you know, George Washington and Jackie Robinson and

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Speaker 2: the teacher's like, Jerry, what is this?

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Speaker 3: Jerry Mark? Right?

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Speaker 1: Was he in the American Revolution? I don't remember reading

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Speaker 1: about him founding Fathers. Well, he wasn't founding fathers. But

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Speaker 1: he was one of the very first.

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Speaker 2: Jefferson Adams, Mark Bright that.

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Speaker 3: Was the very three.

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Speaker 1: Didn't have to do the pulldown on the holding. He

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Speaker 1: would just grab the wrist for a holding. He didn't

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Speaker 1: be pulling down of the wrist, he just grabbed it

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Speaker 1: and it was still a holding call.

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Speaker 3: Jerry started that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a book all right. Anyways, this was fun today, Lance,

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Speaker 2: thanks for fulfilling in for us. We've got Bucky. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure we'll be back next week. You're the best, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you. We'll see you guys, all right, We'll see

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Speaker 2: you next time. Right here on, move the sticks.

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Speaker 1: Stus Stu