1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody to the Friday edition of 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay is heading 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: to us from the airport. He'll be joining in progress. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: It is made the Buckster leading you in this deep 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: dive into everything you need to know. All the thing's 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: happening right now, all across this land of ours, all 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: across the world. In fact, we have some things to 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: talk about, like new job support not good not a 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: good job support. We'll discuss a little bit. Ninety two 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: thousand jobs lost. Now they're gonna revise this, it could change. 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: I get all that. But obviously any economic news that 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: is not if it's fantastic economic news, the media doesn't 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: want to talk about it because they don't want to 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: give Trump credit. And if it's even a little negative, 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: it's all they want to talk about when it comes 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: to the economy. So we're gonna look at that a 18 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: little bit. We're gonna look at that. We've also got 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the firing of Christy Noan by Trump 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: from DHS. It was a long time coming. It should 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: have happened months and months ago, quite honestly, but there's 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: a lot of back and forth over this. We may 23 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: be joined by are we do. We still have Senator 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: Kennedy on the DAKA team. Is Senator Kennedy of Louisiana 25 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: who is involved in that hearing. He's coming on the show. 26 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to him. We're gonna talk to the 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: good senator from the great state of Louisiana about the 28 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: situation with well Baran first and foremost and the DHS. 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: But look, there's the single biggest thing happening right now 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: is the US slash Israeli aerial campaign against Iran and 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: now against regional proxies of Iran. There have been strikes 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: in the southern suburbs of Lebanon, so that that is interesting. 33 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Lebanon is at a tipping point as it seeks to curb 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: Hesbola's influenced countries, waiting to see if the government seizes 35 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: on this moment to disarm the Iranian backed armed group 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: and how the militants will respond. So Israeli military pounding 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Hesbelah on the southern edge of the Lebanese capital. This 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: is just worth noting because we're going they're going after 39 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: we're going after. We're with the Israelis on this. We 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: are allies in this mission. That is the reality of 41 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: the situation. So it is a we situation and we're 42 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: going after Hesbolah, a primary proxy army of the Mullahs 43 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: in Tehran, and man are we pounding the Iranians, Iranian regime, 44 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: not Iranian civilians, but we are pounding military assets and 45 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: government assets hard. This is in fact Trump speaking about this. 46 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: This is cut one. You can hear it from the 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: Command in chief, play it. 48 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: The United States military, together with the wonderful Israeli partners, 49 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: continues to totally demolish the enemy, far ahead of schedule 50 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: and at levels that people have never seen before. Actually, 51 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: we're destroying more of Iran's missiles and drone capability every 52 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: single hour, knocking them out like nobody thought it was possible. 53 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: As soon as they set off a missile, within four 54 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: minutes the launcher gets hit. They don't know what's happening, 55 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: and they're calling. They're saying, how do we make it deal? 56 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: I said, you're being a little bit late, and we 57 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: want to fight now more than they do. 58 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Trump has said, no Iran deal now without unconditional surrender. 59 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: So again, on again, calling on all members. 60 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: So what we have here is an escalation and a 61 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: line in the sand. President Trump has had enough of 62 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: the Iranians, the Mullahs, the IRGC, playing all these games, 63 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: pretending like they want to negotiate, when really they just 64 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: want to stall. Certainly, when Republicans like Trump are in office, 65 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: they want to stall. Democrats will make concessions and stupid deals, 66 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: but with Trump they're trying to just play games and 67 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: play for time. He decided enough is enough and there's 68 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: no need to sit and wait for Iran to improve 69 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: or expand upon its ballistic missile capability, which I might 70 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: add was always left out of that disastrous Obama deal. 71 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: Remember the Obama Iran deal did not cover ballistic missiles, 72 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: so the Iranians were free to build up those stockpiles, 73 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: and as we have seen, those stockpiles are now being 74 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: dramatically reduced by the air campaign. It is incredible the efficiency, 75 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: the technology, the skill, the precision with which US planes 76 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: and Israeli planes are able to We don't just have 77 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: aerial superiority. We are dominating their airspace. We are the 78 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: airspace now have complete and total control over it and 79 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: It did not take very long, so you can pick 80 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: any targets you want to hit. Now the big question 81 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: becomes as we have discussed who is going to take over, 82 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: who is going to be in charge of this country 83 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: or really perhaps a caretaker regime for a transition to 84 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: what we would like to have democratic elections. I'm sure, 85 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: And so that is people keep asking me, like, do 86 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: how do I think this is going to go? I 87 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 1: think if there was a clear plan, we would already 88 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: know what the clear plan is. This is a little 89 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: bit of Kentucky windage. You could say, this is a 90 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: little bit of just let it fly. Got to figure 91 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: this one out as we go. But Trump decided the 92 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: alternative was worse. Here he is saying to all members 93 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: of the security services, just put down your arms, full amnesty, 94 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: that is the way forward. Plate cut too, and once. 95 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: Again calling on all members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, 96 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: the military, and the police to lay down their arms. 97 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: They're only going to be killed, and now is the 98 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: time to stand up for the Iranian people and help 99 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: take back your country. You're going to have a chance, 100 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: after all these years to take back your country. Except immunity, 101 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: we'll give you immunity, and we'll be giving you really 102 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: the right side of history, because that's what it is. 103 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: So you'll be perfectly safe with total immunity, or you'll 104 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: face absolutely guaranteed death. And I don't want to see that. 105 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: It's true. One of the components of this that is 106 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: different from even what we were dealing with twenty years ago. 107 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: The intelligence apparatus that we and the Israelis can bring 108 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: to bear on Iran from the sky, electronically and otherwise 109 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: and on the ground is such that we can take 110 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: anybody out. Trump is just taking anybody out that he 111 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: chooses to. That gives you a lot of leverage. One 112 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: of the challenges of air campaigns in the past has 113 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: been you always needed people with guns to go door 114 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: to door, house to house and pull the other guy 115 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: out of his fighting position, out of his foxhole, so 116 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: to speak. I mean that that's part of this. But 117 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: if we are so capable that we can take out 118 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: anybody we want, any member of the leadership, I mean, 119 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: here you go. Israel just says this is an update. 120 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: The Israeli military destroyed bunker used by Iran Supreme Leader 121 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: in a nuance slaught. These are just taking apart the 122 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: entire military infrastructure of Iran right now. That's and there's 123 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: nothing the Iranians can do about it. There's nothing the 124 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: mullets can do. There is no secret super weapon option 125 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: that they have. And I wonder how long this continues 126 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: before it's clear that they're not really in charge of 127 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: their own country. If you can't control your airspace and 128 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: you can't keep any leadership alive without the say so 129 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: of the United States and Israel, are you really in control? 130 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: So we are entering a new phase. Remember, this brings 131 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: together drones, it brings together surveillance technology that's even beyond 132 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: people that ask me like, well, what do you think 133 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: they have? Guys, I've been out. I haven't had a 134 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: clearance in over a decade now, So there's all kinds 135 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: of new wizbangs that I read about just like you. 136 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: But the technology and the mapping capability and the human 137 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: terrain assessments that they can do are way beyond what 138 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: you could have done in the early two thousands, And 139 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: we went into Iraq far greater precision. The munitions are 140 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: much more targeted and precise, as well our ability to 141 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: shoot things out of the sky that they try to 142 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: fire at US is far better. I mean, you are 143 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: seeing a dominant military performance on display right now. We 144 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: haven't seen anything really like it since Persian Gulf War one. 145 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: Nothing that comes that at this level, and that was 146 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: that was quite different in its own way. So I 147 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: think that the Trump administration feels like this is going 148 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: so far to plan, and I think that they are 149 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: having to do some improvisation as they move along to 150 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: figure out who's going to be in charge. People talk 151 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: about the current the Kurds are great in Kurdish areas. 152 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm very proud. Everyone I know who was US military 153 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: in Iraq, everyone know who is intel in Iraq, tend 154 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: to be very pro Kurdish. They fight, they they are 155 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: reliable in their own areas, but they have limitations because 156 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: you take them out of Kurdish areas and there are problems. 157 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, all these old ethnic conflicts come together. 158 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: So you got that help in Iran in some in 159 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: some capacity. You got to figure out what you're going 160 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: to do with the Persian Who's going to be the 161 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: figurehead of the Persian majority. I don't know. People are 162 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: saying some descendant of the Shaw that could be complicated. 163 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. If the administration was certain, I think 164 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: they would have already started to lay out that plan 165 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: for us. But I also believe that there's some wisdom 166 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: in this approach of let's just as Rubio said, and 167 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: I said, if you defang the snake, let's remove their 168 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: capability to hit us or any of our friends, and say, 169 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: when you want to talk, let us know when you 170 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: want to talk. Molliss, your missiles are disappearing, your stockpiles 171 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: are getting blown up or entombed by our bunker busters. 172 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: How much longer do you want this to go on for? 173 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: We did try it the nice way. We tried it 174 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: the nice way for a long time. And I would 175 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: argue the Obama administration tried it the far too nice way, 176 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: bending the knees, sending them palettes of cash, you know whatever. 177 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: We tried that for a long time. They weren't willing 178 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: to play ball. They were playing games so that they 179 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: could get to a nuke. It's very obvious there's no 180 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: reason for them to have caused all these problems if 181 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: they weren't planning to get nuclear weapons, and then they 182 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: wouldn't be in this position because there would be redlines. 183 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: And I think we might have argued, if Iran had 184 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: nukes and we were doing to them what we've already 185 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: done in the early days here, would they have fired them? Yes, 186 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: people have been saying to me, Buck, do you think 187 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: Aram would have fired nukes? I don't know as a 188 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: first strike. But what we're doing now, Oh, yes, I 189 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: think the Molas probably would say, we're going to take 190 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: a shot at Tel Aviv. Let's see if we can 191 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: hit it, or Jerusalem or where we'll probably tel Aviv. 192 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: But yes, I think the Molas would do that. Now 193 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: they can't. Now they can't. So we're entering a different phase. 194 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: Things in Venezuela are already starting to move in a 195 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: more positive direction. Look, we have to understand Trump is 196 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: remaking the world in an image of stability and safety 197 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: in a way that a lot of people, including Trump voters, 198 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: didn't anticipate. I didn't know he was going to do 199 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: all this stuff. He didn't say he was going to 200 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: do all this stuff. So far, it's working. We should 201 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: all pray that it does work because it could be 202 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: so enormously beneficial to all these different regions, whether it's 203 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Venezuela slash Cuba and what that would do for Latin America, 204 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: for the Caribbean basin what we see with Iran in 205 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: the Middle East and the removal of these proxies and 206 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: everything else. You know, these places don't have to be dysfunctional, 207 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: problematic for the global community. Hell holes, it doesn't have 208 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: to be that way. There are plenty of places that 209 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: we don't sit around spending a lot of time worrying about. 210 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: Plenty of countries, and this is bold stuff from the administration, 211 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: There's no two ways about it. So I am just 212 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: very hopeful that this will continue as it has been 213 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: and that will start to see a coalescing of anti 214 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: regime forces coming together on the ground. We saw the 215 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: protest movements, but this stuff is very hard, you know. 216 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: It's think about it this way, Okay, you think that 217 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: a new you think that a new government is possible 218 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: in Iran, You hate the Malas. When is it safe 219 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: for you to go outside and start talking to people 220 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: about this? When are you willing to join that march 221 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: and think that you're not going to get mowed down 222 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: by IRGC or besiege elements with pkms you and your 223 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: whole family. This is tricky. This is tricky, So I 224 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: think that's part of why Trump is saying put down 225 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: your guns now, because I can tell you this, if 226 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: they start going after civilians, I think Trump is going 227 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: to hit military elements even harder. And we're talking about 228 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: blowing up barracks or whatever he's got to do. So 229 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: we shall see. Wondering what you think about all of this, UH, 230 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: definitely give us a call eight hundred two eighty two 231 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: to eight A two will continue to analyze it, make 232 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: sense of it, and dive into it together. 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What was your reaction when you 266 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: saw that Christy Nome was out. Were you surprised, did 267 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: you expect it? Take us into your process there as 268 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: you came to see that news. 269 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised. I like the Secretary. I think she 270 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: did many good things. In fact, I started my questioning 271 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: by congratulating her on her success in securing our southern 272 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 4: border and implementing the Presidence Plan. But there have been 273 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 4: a number of management decisions and certain management behavior at 274 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 4: the department in the last for four months that I 275 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 4: think if they were really distracting from the President's agenda 276 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 4: and our agenda. And the quarter of a billion dollars 277 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: of advertising campaign that that featured the Secretary prominently has 278 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: always bothered me. I'm i'm, I'm very opposed to spending porn. 279 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 4: But anyway, my point is I didn't tell anybody. I 280 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 4: didn't get anybody's permission. I just decided to ask the 281 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 4: secretary some pretty tough questions. And when I asked her 282 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 4: about the advertising campaign, I was a little surprised. That's 283 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 4: why I asked her twice that she basically said the 284 00:17:52,000 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: President approved everybility, and I didn't believe that. That night, 285 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: about nine point thirty, I got a phone call from 286 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 4: the President. He was mad as a mama wasp. He 287 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 4: told me he had nothing to do with it. He 288 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: wasn't aware of the advertising advertising campaign. He would not 289 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 4: have approved a quarter of a billion dollars. He wouldn't 290 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: have approved no bid contracts to allegedly the friends of 291 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: the secretary. And I had a feeling that he was 292 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 4: going to make a change. He ran a couple of 293 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: names by me about new secretaries. She asked me for 294 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 4: my opinion on a few, and that was the end 295 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 4: of the conversation. But I could tell that in all 296 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: likelihood that the secretary she was as dead as Woodrow Wilson. 297 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 4: You know, I can tell when the president's made up 298 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 4: his mine and he usually acts pretty quickly, dead as Woodrow. 299 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 4: And what also, what about I was just gonna say. 300 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: I was also I'm not surprised at Mark Way because 301 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: we talked about Mark Wayne, and I told, okay. 302 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: We'll get into that in a second. 303 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: But when you say Trump was mad as a mama wasp, 304 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: what does that sound like? You talk to President Trump 305 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: a lot, What does that sound like when you get 306 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: a call from the president and he's that angry, that 307 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: conversation sounds like what take us into take it into 308 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: what that experience is. 309 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 4: Well, he wasn't. He wasn't screaming or anything, but he 310 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: was angry. I mean, I could tell he was angry. 311 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 4: And he started off by saying, I hope you know 312 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 4: that I would never spend this kind of money on 313 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 4: something like that when we're scratching and clawing to try 314 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 4: to reduce our spending and therefore reduce our debt. And 315 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: you know, he was very firm, I'll put it that way. 316 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 4: But he wasn't, but I could tell he was gonna 317 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 4: make a change. 318 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: Senator Kennedy, can you tell us a little bit more 319 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: about First of all, how could such a huge How 320 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: could anyone think that such a huge budget for an 321 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: ad campaign for a government employee, not the president, would 322 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: do anything other than raise a lot of eyebrows. And 323 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: then also you mentioned this contracting. This seems like this 324 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: is quite a messy thing. If there's money that is 325 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: going taxpayer dollars going in large sums to newly formed 326 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: corporations right before they are dolled out, what do we 327 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: know about this and is there going to be further 328 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: looking into this. 329 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: Yes, it's going to be looked at very carefully. I 330 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 4: sat on the Appropriations committee, but even if I didn't, 331 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 4: when it comes to taxpayer money, I'm pretty cheap gush. 332 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: I I was State Treasurers Louisiana for seventeen years. I 333 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: squeak when I walk, and when I see spending porn 334 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 4: or what looks to me like spending porn, I'm gonna 335 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 4: call it out. I don't care who who did it. 336 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 4: These ads cost the quarter of a billion dollars. They 337 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: figured or they featured rather the Secretary. Primly. You've seen them. 338 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: She's on a horse in front of Mount Rushmore. I 339 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 4: think any fair minded person would look at these ads 340 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 4: and say, well, there could be a number of purposes, 341 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 4: but they're primarily to promote the secretary. And I think 342 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 4: during my questioning of the Secretary, I asked her, I said, 343 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 4: did you bid these out? I mean, and she said yes, 344 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 4: and I knew that was an acting. She didn't get 345 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 4: the names of the people who got this quarter of 346 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: a billion dollars off of ZIP recruiter. I think some 347 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 4: of them she knew beforehand, and some of these were 348 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: brand new companies. I don't know all the details, but 349 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 4: I think what disturbed me the most from the testimony 350 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 4: was that she, you know, she basically blamed the president 351 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: and said, you know, he okayed it and he didn't. 352 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 4: And you see the consequence. 353 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: Now you're a lawyer, I believe I'm a lawyer. You 354 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: said the president said he didn't do it. She said 355 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: he did. She said he did it under oath. I 356 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 3: mean to me, when you say something that is untrue 357 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: under oath, I mean, I think that sets off a 358 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: lot of alarm bells for people out there. Do you think, 359 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: based on what you know, that she lied under oath 360 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: about this? 361 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. As far as I'm concerned, it's over with. 362 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 4: We've in again. I liked the secretary. She did many 363 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 4: good things, but we were at we've had a lot 364 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 4: of management problems. Uh. In fact, if I had only 365 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 4: ten minutes to question her, I got to two subjects. 366 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: I had eight to talk to her about. 367 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Well, izy to the senator? Can I can I jump 368 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: in there? Because another thing that's gotten a lot of 369 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: attention to headlines is the allegations about the Secretary not 370 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: just having an extramarital relationship and their allegations that I 371 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: know that she has denied them in the past, but 372 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: with somebody who's a special government employee, so essentially traveling 373 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: with her on taxpayer funded aircraft and going everywhere and 374 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: in the chain of command, that is the allegation. Was 375 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: it fair for Democrat to ask about that? And is 376 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: it true that the President was unhappy with her responses? 377 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: He and I didn't talk about that. By he, I mean, 378 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: of course, I mean the President. I don't know if 379 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: it's those allegations are true, that they were raised by 380 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 4: a number of people and our hearing they will, Look, 381 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: this is not likely to be over. One of the 382 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 4: things I wanted to talk to you about but haven't 383 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 4: is management at the department has been obstructing their inspector 384 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 4: general who works for us in Congress and his job 385 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: is to find waste and corruption and and and and 386 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. And uh, I know he's going 387 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 4: to continue to probe. My guess is there will be others. 388 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: But but look, this is. 389 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: It a fair question? Is it a fair question, though, 390 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: Senator to ask, given that involves somebody who might be 391 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: in chain of command in your estimation, is it a 392 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: fair question. 393 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: Well, look, I don't you know. I'm pretty libertarian, guys, 394 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 4: but ninety percent of my philosophy is, don't hurt somebody 395 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 4: unless they're trying to hurt you first, and don't take 396 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: other people's stuff and leave me alone. So I don't 397 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: really care that much about someone's sex life. But now 398 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 4: if it's a government employee, for example in Congress, if 399 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: if if a congressman or woman has an affair with 400 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 4: somebody who works for you, it's it's illegal. But my guess, 401 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 4: my guess is it's just a guess. But it's not 402 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: going to come for me. This stuff is not going 403 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: to go for a way away for a while. I 404 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 4: would like to know about the court of a billion 405 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: dollars that was spent and who got it, whether we 406 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 4: can recoup any any of it. But again, guys, it 407 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 4: wasn't personal. I'm doing my job. That is my job. 408 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: I consider this to be spending porn, and I'm gonna 409 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 4: call it out every single time. And my experience with 410 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 4: the President is that he didn't like it either, which. 411 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 3: He was no, yeah, you said he was mad. I 412 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: wrote it down because I love the quote Matt as 413 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: a Mama Watts. Let's talk about something positive, because you 414 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: started to talk about it a little bit earlier. Uh, 415 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 3: Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, you said the President bounced a 416 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 3: bunch of names off you, potentially as replacements for Secretary Nome. 417 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 3: What can you tell us? We love Mark Wayne Mullen. 418 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: He was on this program with us Tuesday. Now he's 419 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: got a big promotion. Who knows, maybe you'll get a 420 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 3: big promotion after this interview too. But Mark Wayne Mullen 421 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: now headed the DHS. As someone who worked alongside of him, 422 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 3: what should we know? What kind of job do you 423 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: think he'll do. 424 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 4: Well? Mark Wayne's tough as a pine. Not yes, I 425 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 4: he A, he's smart, b he's tough, stee. He's a 426 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 4: good businessman. I told all this to the President. He's 427 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 4: a good businessman, which means he's a pretty good manager. 428 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: And as I told the folks yesterday and d even 429 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: if all things, all those things weren't true, I wouldn't 430 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: say otherwise because because Mark Wain would whip my ass. 431 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: He's like a cage fighter or something at all. Note, 432 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 4: But I like bark point and I think he'll do 433 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 4: a good job, and I think he'll be easily confirmed. 434 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 4: He already has some ideas about some of the changes 435 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 4: that he wants to make, and it's you know, new blood, 436 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: doesn't It doesn't hurt. 437 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 3: Sometimes you've got a best selling book. Buck Sexton also 438 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 3: has a best selling book. You guys have been on 439 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 3: the New York Times bestseller list together. What's it been 440 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: like to be a best selling author? People are buying 441 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: your book like crazy. I'll let you pitch it, not 442 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 3: the unique. 443 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, I think Senator has an unfair 444 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: advantage with the audio book with that accident. I'm just 445 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: gonna tell you, I think it's unfair. There should be 446 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: like a different category for charming Southern accent audiobook. But 447 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: go ahead, Senator. 448 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 4: Well Man, you know it took like twenty hours to 449 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: record that audio book. Oh my gosh, I had no 450 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 4: idea to take so long. Look, the name of the 451 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: book is How to Test Negative for Stupid and Washington 452 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: never Will. Harper Cobbins was the publisher. That wasn't my 453 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 4: first choice for a title. My first choice was always 454 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: be yourself unless you Suck, but they wouldn't let me 455 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 4: use that type, so we settled on this one. You 456 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 4: write a book. It was a lot of work, you know, 457 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 4: all nights and weekends at my kitchen table, and you 458 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 4: finish it and you have no idea what's how it's 459 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: going to do. So I'm not trying to be humble here. 460 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 4: I mean, honest to god, I had no idea, and 461 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 4: I really was surprised. I mean, we might have been 462 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 4: on the New York Times Best Settler list for twenty 463 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: one weeks and I'm gratified. I think it's because it's 464 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: not a policy book. It's a story book. I use 465 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 4: stories to talk about policy. The stories or some of 466 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: them are bizarre, some of them are funny, all of 467 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: them are true. I hope if you read the book 468 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: I talk about my colleagues to talk about it is drilling, Mike. 469 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 4: If you read the book, I hope it'll make you think. 470 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: It may discourage you, may it may make you want 471 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 4: a day drink. But every every bit of industry. 472 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: Senator Kennedy, we appreciate you. You always got an invitation 473 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: on the program. Thanks for tick down the spending porn. 474 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: And by the way, I'm a fellow Vanderbilt graduate, so 475 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: it's always good to see Vanagim some success. 476 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 4: Go doors listen, guys, don't take the rest of the 477 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 4: day off and also pay your taxes. We need the money. Okay, 478 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 4: all right, we're on. 479 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: It is Senators Kittedy. We appreciate his time. Interesting comments 480 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 3: there on a variety of different fronts. We come back, 481 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: we'll unpack them a little bit. 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Price picks dot com code clay 497 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: that is pricepicks dot com code c l a Y. 498 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: We are now joined by Brianna Lyman of the Federalist. 499 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 3: She has done a ton working and writing about the 500 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 3: Save Act, and we'll start there, but I also want 501 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: to get into Remind me to ask Brianna about the 502 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 3: study out there that says if you vote Republican, you 503 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 3: actually save lives, which is a pretty good thing. 504 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: We knew that. We knew that before the study, but 505 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: we'll take data too, so why not. 506 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 3: We'll get to Brionna on that. She's also doing a 507 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: great series on America two fifty. But let's start with this. 508 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 3: We've got a super close race. I believe it's in 509 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: the North Carolina Senate. The last I saw Brianna was 510 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: it came down to two votes. This is a state 511 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 3: Senate and the Save Act. Now we've got Ken Paxton 512 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 3: down in Texas saying, hey, if you'll pass the Save Act, 513 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 3: I'll consider dropping out of this race because he wants 514 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 3: for John Cornyn to support it. There's around eighty percent 515 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: of voters who support this. I know many people out 516 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: there are frustrated. What's the latest on it and how 517 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: in the world. Can we not get basic voter integrity, 518 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 3: vote with a license, vote with a voter voter the 519 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 3: photo I D passed. 520 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm happy you brought up that North Carolina 521 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 5: race because it is still down to two votes. And 522 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 5: when you have elections that are literally decided by two votes, 523 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 5: it doesn't make election security less important. It makes it 524 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 5: more important. It makes things like the SAVE Act more 525 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 5: important because remember, the SAVE Act would require documentary proof 526 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 5: of citizenship to register to vote and then voter ID. 527 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 5: Right now, the only thing standing between a non citizen 528 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 5: and our free and fare elections is a little square 529 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 5: box in the federal registration form that says you attest 530 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 5: under penalty of perjury that you're a citizen, aka the 531 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 5: honor system. And that is absolutely not enough. And so 532 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 5: when you look at races like this one in North Carolina, 533 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 5: when you look at mary Nette Miller Meeks in twenty twenty, 534 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 5: she won her congressional race by six votes, imagine if 535 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 5: six non citizens had cast a ballot in that race, 536 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 5: that could have quite literally changed a congressional seat, changed 537 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 5: the balance of Congress. That is unacceptable. And right now 538 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 5: you have leaders in the Senate like Leader of food. 539 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 5: Who is dragging his feet on legislation? Like you said, 540 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 5: that is popular nationwide amongst Republicans, Democrats, Blacks, Latino, whites, 541 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 5: you name it. Everyone's saying, this is common sense legislation, 542 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 5: and yet it's not being done. 543 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: What entirely is in the SAVE Act? I mean you 544 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: mentioned it's clearly about election integrity, But what are all 545 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: the different pieces that it contains. Are there any things 546 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: that aren't getting attention that would be really important for 547 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: election integrity? It's just people are talking about the SAVE Act. 548 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 1: I think it's important that everyone also knows what's in it. 549 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, what the SAVE Act does. So there's the nineteen 550 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 5: ninety three MVRA, the National Voter Registration Act, And what 551 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 5: that does right now is it actually hamstrings the government 552 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 5: from requiring proof of citizenship to vote, because I think 553 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 5: it was twenty thirteen the Supreme Court, I think wrongly 554 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 5: interpreted that nineteen ninety three law to prohibit states from 555 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 5: requiring documentary proof of citizenship to vote. So if you 556 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 5: think of Arizona, Arizona has two registration forms. You can 557 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 5: proof that you are a citizen and vote in state 558 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 5: and federal elections. But if you can't prove that you're 559 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 5: a citizen. You can only vote in federal elections. And 560 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 5: so what the SAVE Act would do is it amends 561 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 5: that law. It fixes the problem we've had for thirty 562 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 5: years and says, no, you have to require documentary proof 563 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 5: of citizenship. 564 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 4: Right. 565 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 5: States should not be sued by the Obama and Biden 566 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 5: dojs for trying to make their elections more secure. President 567 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 5: Trump seemed to hint in a truth social post that 568 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 5: he wanted to add no trands and kids maybe into 569 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 5: the whole say back negotiations. I think that was a 570 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 5: bit unclear. But right now, the two biggest things proof 571 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 5: of citizenship to register and voter ID. And a lot 572 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 5: of people will say, well, we already have safeguards, and 573 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 5: they cite things like HAVA and HA, which are early 574 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 5: two thousands legislation. Do you know in a state like California, 575 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 5: let's say you don't have your driver's license or your 576 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 5: social security right and you have no identification, you can 577 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 5: still register to vote, and you know how you get 578 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 5: to prove your identity your gym membership? What protocols do 579 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 5: you go to to get a gym membership? 580 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 4: Nothing? 581 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 5: You just take a picture of the little thing and 582 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 5: they say, okay, here's your name. You can come to 583 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 5: the gym and you can use that to verify your 584 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 5: identity to vote. So our elections are so insecure, and 585 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 5: when you have twenty million people in this country lead, 586 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 5: we can't take. 587 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 1: Chances, Brionna. 588 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: One of the things that I would just point out 589 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 3: is the contrary argument does not exist, right, because the 590 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 3: argument is, well, it's racist to require voter ID. That's insane. 591 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 3: As we as you said, black, white, Asian, Hispanic, people 592 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 3: of all different backgrounds agree that you should have to 593 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 3: have voter ID photo ID to vote. So really, isn't 594 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: this just an implicit acknowledgment from Democrats that they're cheating 595 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: and worried that they might get caught because otherwise none 596 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 3: of the other arguments stand up. 597 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, there is no legitimate reason. And if you talked about, 598 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 5: let's go over first of all, to raceis something right? 599 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 5: Remember Jim Crow two point zero in Georgia? Why was 600 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 5: that twelve twenty one? They told us that black people 601 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 5: would never be able to vote again. CNN and the 602 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 5: Washington Post actually did articles after the first big election 603 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 5: after the legislation went through, and they interviewed black voters 604 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 5: who said it was actually easier to vote now than 605 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 5: it had been in the past. They weren't in encumbered, 606 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 5: they weren't prohibited from voting, so that never actually manifested, right, 607 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 5: It was just that raw raw. Then you have claim 608 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 5: that this will disenfranchise voters, and again I bring it 609 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 5: back to these smaller races that are decided by razor 610 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 5: thin margins. 611 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 4: Take this. 612 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 5: In December, a woman from the Bahamas who is not 613 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 5: a citizen, admitted to the Georgia State Election Board she 614 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 5: has voted in multiple elections. Not because she was trying 615 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 5: to do something illegal, but she said, look, they kept 616 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 5: sending me papers. I thought I was eligible, so I 617 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 5: did it right. It wasn't nefarious, but there was no 618 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 5: security in safeguards to stop her. Imagine she had cast 619 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 5: a vote in this North Carolina race and one other 620 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 5: non citizen did that, right, That would change the outcome 621 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 5: of an election that actually disenfranchises American citizen. So Republicans 622 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 5: and Democrats who say, well, oh, well, this is my 623 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 5: disenfranchised people, think about the Americans being disenfranchised by non 624 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 5: citizens voting. 625 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: Speaking to Brionna Alignment of the federalists and Brianna, the 626 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: folks who write into us are saying, we got to 627 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: pass the Save Act. It's critical to pass the Save Act. 628 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: And we have a problem here. Of course, she's one. 629 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: Majority Leader Thuon does not seem willing to push for this. 630 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 1: But even beyond that, without a sixty vote threshold, there's 631 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: the threat of philibuster, not an actual talking filibuster that 632 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: is assumed to be enough to shut this down. So 633 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: that means that it doesn't get passed. Right, So what 634 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: is the best thing Let's say we could get We 635 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: could get Majority Leader Thoon to sit down right now 636 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: with all of us. What should he do in this situation, 637 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: given how important election integrity is and how much sense 638 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: and how much support from the general public this Save 639 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: Act has. 640 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, and chip Roy actually wrote a letter explaining the 641 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 5: talking filibuster, which is that, you know, Leader Foon has 642 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 5: to basically call and have Democrats. They have to follow 643 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 5: the rules and they have to talk. They get two 644 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 5: times to talk each Once they stop talking, they don't 645 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 5: get to resume, right, and if Republicans were to enforce 646 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 5: already standing procedures, Democrats would eventually just run out of time. 647 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 5: And then you can hold a regular vote in which 648 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 5: you'd only need fifty one votes to pass this legislation, 649 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 5: which we know we have because Fetterman is on our side. 650 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 5: And if a Republican is going to resign themselves to say, well, 651 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 5: we you know, we don't want to get rid of 652 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 5: the philibuster, but we want this legislation pass, then they're 653 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 5: admitting they're never getting a passed. Republicans are never in 654 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 5: our lifetime likely going to get a filibuster proof majority. 655 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 5: That is silly thinking. So what Republicans like Thuner saying 656 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 5: is well, I guess we're just going to have to 657 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 5: settle for only doing things that Democrats want. But just 658 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 5: remember something, Chuck Schumer has made it very clear when 659 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 5: Democrats take back power, nothing including nuking the filibuster, is 660 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 5: off the table. When Democrats take back Congress, whether it's 661 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six, twenty eight, whenever, they will do 662 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 5: what's necessary to push their agenda. And I wish Republicans 663 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 5: would have the appetite to do the same on legislation 664 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 5: that is universally popular. This is not a fifty to 665 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 5: fifty issue. It is an eighty twenty issue. 666 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 3: We're talking to Brionna liman A, the Federalist. All Right, 667 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,479 Speaker 3: everybody out there who's fired up about the Save Act, 668 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 3: we are fired up. 669 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: We wanted to happen. 670 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 3: But let me ask you about this, which is actually 671 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 3: a very positive story I was reading about this week. 672 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 3: There is now data out and I believe you wrote 673 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: about this or have talked about this as well, saying 674 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 3: that if you vote Republican, particularly when it comes to 675 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 3: das and the prosecution of violent crimes, the data reflects 676 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 3: lives are saved because there's far less violent crime. Seems 677 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 3: like kind of an important story that should get more attention. 678 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: What did the data show, What does it tell us 679 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: and why is it significant? 680 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? 681 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, this was data that was kind of I feel 682 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 5: like hidden, and granted, you know, the Iran War started, 683 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 5: so it didn't get buried. But what it shows is 684 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 5: that despite people telling us that if you both for 685 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 5: a progressive prosecutor or being compassionate and empathetic, that compassion 686 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 5: comes at a very deadly cost. And what the study 687 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 5: by a Vanderbilt professor and a Wellesley College professor found 688 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 5: is that when you narrowly elect a Republican prosecutor over 689 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 5: a left wing counter part. You see a reduction in 690 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 5: deaths among young men six point six percent. That is 691 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 5: not a drop in the bucket. That is a substantial decrease. 692 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 5: And obviously, you know, you don't need to study, you know, 693 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 5: to show this. But Republican prosecutors they actually want to 694 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 5: hold criminals accountable. They send them to jail, and most importantly, 695 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 5: they levy consequences on these criminals that do come with 696 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 5: the consequence of restricting their access to firearms. It reduces 697 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 5: suicide among young men. It also reduces other forms of 698 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 5: gun violence. And so you think to yourself, Democrats hate 699 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 5: gun violence. Everybody hates gun violence. But Democrats also hate 700 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 5: the Second Amendment. Instead of taking away the Second Amendment 701 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 5: from law abiding citizens, if you want to reduce gun violence, 702 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 5: elect a Republican prosecutor. Tell your progressive prosecutors. What they're 703 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 5: doing is not only not working, but it's deadly and 704 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 5: dangerous for people that Democrats claim they want to help. 705 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 5: They want to help victims of gun violence. This is 706 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 5: how you do it. Be a tough on crime prosecutor. 707 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: Breon A. Lyman. Great to have you with us as 708 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: a federalists. Come back soon. 709 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. 710 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 3: In Israel, citizens are on high alert any hour, any minute, 711 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 3: next to incoming missile or drone might be headed in 712 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 3: their direction. 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That's 727 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 3: i f CJ dot org. 728 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: Before we get into this Mom Donnie story stuff, Mom 729 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,800 Speaker 1: Donnie's wife, actually, uh play why don't you tell everybody 730 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: what you do in DC? 731 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 4: Man? 732 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: You know what's what's going what's going on there? 733 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 3: The reason I was late, Uh I flew up to DC. 734 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 3: I'm only up here, down and back same day on 735 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 3: my beloved Southwest Airlines. There's actually a really cool panel 736 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 3: on the future of college sports. And I know a 737 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 3: lot of you are big college sports fans, but basically, 738 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 3: as players have begun to be paid, it has created 739 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 3: an absolute mess that I think most fans out there 740 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 3: agree needs to be fixed. And this gets into Leeds 741 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 3: a little bit, but it is going to require if 742 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 3: we want to fix it. I think congressional action. 743 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: Now. 744 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if Congress can pass anything right now, 745 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 3: to be frank, but President Trump, in addition to building 746 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: ballrooms and victory arches and doing engaging in actions in 747 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 3: Venezuela and maybe Cuba and certainly Iran, is trying to 748 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 3: fix everything out there. And so people from Nick Saban, 749 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 3: Urban Meyer, a lot of different people affiliated with college 750 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 3: sports are going to be at the White House. 751 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to be on a panel. 752 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be carried live on Fox 753 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 3: News at four pm Eastern, and the President's trying to 754 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 3: put together a plan to solve many of the issues 755 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 3: but deviling college sports right now, and I'm going to 756 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 3: be a part of it. So with my background in 757 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 3: media and politics and law, hopefully I can be somewhat helpful. 758 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: So that's what's going on. 759 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 3: Man, go to the panel and then go home, pick 760 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: up my kid at a lacrosse match, and head into 761 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 3: the house for the weekend. But hopefully we can make 762 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 3: some progress on trying to fix the mess that is 763 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 3: college athletics right now. 764 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm already hearing more about how here in Florida, because 765 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: of our lovely climate and the ability to play out 766 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: or sports pretty much year round, that there's a surgeon 767 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: interest in kids going to essentially sports first academies, with 768 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 1: the idea being you don't even have to go pro anymore, 769 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: and it's not just about getting recruited to a college. 770 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: You might be able to make seven figures. Now you say, okay, 771 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: well maybe you can only do that for a few years. Yeah, 772 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: starting out life in your early twenties, if you're making 773 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: a half million dollars a year for I think my 774 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: first job, I made thirty grand, So yeah, you know, 775 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: that's pretty good deal. 776 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 3: Look, the balancing act is going to be complicated because 777 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 3: you want people to be compensated for their talent. I'm 778 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 3: a capitalist, but I always say, and it takes people 779 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 3: sometimes a minute to think about it, but in sports, 780 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 3: the business is the competition, and the quality of the 781 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 3: competition is what dictates the success of the sport. And 782 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 3: so if you're creating competition that is not ideal and 783 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 3: you're breaking the competitive balance in the process in the 784 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 3: long range, that is not a good solution. So got 785 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 3: to figure this out. If people are curious about it. 786 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 3: My Twitter handle I laid out some of the complex 787 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 3: issues on it. But a lot of our friends Senator 788 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,880 Speaker 3: Ted cru Is going to be there, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, 789 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: Secretary of State Marco Rubio, President Trump clearly, Eric Schmidt, 790 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: Senator from Missouri. A lot of people that have an 791 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 3: understanding of many different complex issues here, Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, 792 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 3: who have had history and coaching. So I'm looking forward 793 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 3: to it. I have no idea truly what to expect fully, 794 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: but it'll be live at the White House and looking 795 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 3: forward to getting over there and seeing everybody in about 796 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: thirty minutes. 797 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,879 Speaker 1: So I'm going to be headed over there, and now 798 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: let's hear about the first or the New York stated 799 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: Crocket Air. Yeah, so this is not going to surprise me. 800 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 3: But I was reading this morning and I want to 801 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 3: give credit to the group that wrote about this. But 802 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 3: Mamdani has tried to has tried to lean into I 803 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 3: think what it's fair to say, a lot of negative 804 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 3: connotation surrounding Jewish people. I think that's being very kind 805 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 3: to him in New York City, and he has tried 806 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 3: to argue, oh, that's just being misconstrued, that's being mischaracterized. 807 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't actually believe these things. Jewish Insider dot com, 808 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,839 Speaker 3: a reporting site, has a story up. I shared it. 809 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 3: I am retweeting it right now. If you are interested 810 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 3: in reading it, It'll be up at claymbuck dot com too. 811 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 3: Mayor Mom Donnie's wife liked many different social media post 812 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 3: celebrating the October seventh terror attack that led to twelve 813 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 3: hundred Israeli deaths and two hundred and fifty people being 814 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: taken hostage. Now, everyone out there who is married, I understand, 815 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 3: and I do think it's fair to say, hey, husbands 816 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 3: and wives don't agree on everything. I think it's pretty 817 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 3: unlikely that there's very many husbands and wives where one 818 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 3: of them says, yay, I'm so happy that Hamas killed 819 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,280 Speaker 3: a bunch of Jews, and the other one. 820 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: Is the exact opposite opinion. 821 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 3: So there are certain things where maybe husbands and wives 822 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 3: married couples, the dating couples can differ, and all of 823 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 3: you who have spouses can acknowledge this. Certainly, my wife 824 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 3: does not want to be held accountable for everything that 825 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 3: I say, trust me. But I don't think there's very 826 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 3: many couples where, again, would you sign on to this 827 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 3: book one of them is like, yeah, I'm so glad 828 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 3: that a bunch of Jews got murdered. Let me go 829 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 3: celebrate October seventh, and the other partner is absolutely horrified 830 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 3: by that. I don't think that's very common. Donnie has 831 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 3: not commented on this. It's his wife, not him, but 832 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 3: she went on social media and liked a ton of 833 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 3: celebratory post for the murder of innocent Israeli's on October seventh. 834 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's horrible, she's horrible. 835 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 3: Let me put it in this context book. If Milania 836 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 3: Trump had done this, do you think people would say, oh, 837 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 3: President Trump had nothing to do with it. 838 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: No, I mean, of course the media would be all 839 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 1: over it. I just this is what you get in 840 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: New York when you have some Communists that you decide 841 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna put in charge of the city, and he's 842 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: going to have people around him who are anti Semites. 843 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: Keep in mind there are Jewish New Yorkers who are 844 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: very prommdani. They don't care about this stuff. They think 845 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: that the hatred of Israel is somehow entirely separate from 846 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: hatred of them as Jews. I can tell you everyone 847 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: I've ever heard talking about how much they hate Israel, 848 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 1: especially remember I'm not talking about criticizing Israeli policy. If 849 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 1: you're celebrating October seventh, you hate Israelis I mean you 850 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: want Israelies, you hate Jewish people. You hate Jewish people too. 851 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: And this is a very it's very obvious, right. We 852 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: don't need to play this game that they want us 853 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,919 Speaker 1: to play of like, no, it's different. I only cheer 854 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: when the Zionists are being bruly murdered for no reason 855 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: in the street. W No, no Jews, they hate Jews, 856 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 1: and so yeah, she an anti Semi she is. But 857 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: there are Jewish liberals in New York who support Mom 858 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 1: Donians probably support her anyway. You know, it's the old 859 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,279 Speaker 1: enemy of my enemy is my friends thing with them. 860 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,879 Speaker 1: They don't really care as long as they're pulling down 861 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: the load bearing walls of Western civilization, going full COMMI 862 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 1: they're fine with it. I do think. 863 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 3: Look, if we're going to play fair stakes here, if 864 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 3: you paid attention when President Trump shared the meme video 865 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,720 Speaker 3: which was designed to be humorous about Barack and Michelle 866 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 3: Obama and it just played on a recording, for those 867 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 3: of you who remember that controversy, it was front page news. 868 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,479 Speaker 3: I think the wife of the mayor in New York 869 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 3: City celebrating the murder of twelve hundred innocent Jews and 870 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 3: the captivity of two hundred and fifty other innocent Jews, 871 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 3: any of whom would be murdered while they were in captivity, 872 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 3: should be And I know I'm a old school because 873 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 3: I was reading the newspaper on my flights up to 874 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 3: d C. 875 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:07,720 Speaker 2: Today. 876 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 3: I know that this should be the front page of 877 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 3: the New York Times, and certainly the New York Times, 878 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 3: but also the Washington Post based on the way they 879 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 3: cover Trump's social media posts. 880 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: Will it will any. 881 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:25,560 Speaker 3: Of you see this covered anywhere other than a show 882 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 3: like this or a site like the one that covered it. 883 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: It's but honestly, it's tough. She's not an elected office. 884 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: The women ask him, will they even ask him about it? 885 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's fair to say, Hey, your 886 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: wife is celebrating the murder of Jews. 887 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,439 Speaker 3: Do you think maybe that's a little bit wrong. 888 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. He'll he'll say my wife, 889 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 1: he'll get news and my wife is allowed to have opinions, 890 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: and he'll just move on. I'm just I don't even 891 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 1: think you're not gonna he won't get asked. But if 892 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: he did get asked, he would just say, my wife 893 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,479 Speaker 1: loves Jewish people. And this is what they just gas 894 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: light you. They ignore, It doesn't matter, the evidence doesn't matter. 895 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: Someone should be a book about this. Maybe somebody did, 896 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,919 Speaker 1: called Manufacturing Delusion, which you should go get a copy 897 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 1: of this weekend if you have not already available on 898 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: Amazon or wherever you get your books. Uh, because Clay, 899 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: the game with them is just say you didn't see 900 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: the thing you saw, or yeah, what I said doesn't matter. 901 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 1: This is it's just like with Gavin Newsom, It's all 902 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: it's all this. 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