1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Great episode two ninety nine 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: on what is a really cool I've got to say 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: mourning for me. I just got done doing Scott Van 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: Pelt's podcast, and I've told the story before. I tell it, 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: retell it to Scott about right before the debut of 6 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: First Things First eight years ago, him reaching out to me, 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: even though we didn't even know each other, saying like, hey, 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: if you freak out right before the show, call me. 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: And I did freak out, and I did call him. 10 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: And he's such a great guy and a legend in 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: the industry. I think Scott, Ernie Johnson, and Kevin Wilds 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: are the only three people in sports media with universal 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: approval rating where no one's ever been like, you know 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: who I can't stand And they say, Scott van Pelt, 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: that's a lane I'll never be in. But I'm a 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: little envious of Scott for being able to be in it. 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: So that happened. And the other thing is Washington Post 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: wrote a pretty sweet article about me growing up as 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan and now kind of being the voice 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: of the Chiefs. There are demands. There are some absurd 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: pictures in this article of me wearing the Chiefs fleece 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: on set. They have a sweet picture of the never 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: a Doubt tattoo. So if things couldn't you know, be 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: coming up more perfectly for my exact sports opinions. The 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: other thing that happened over the weekend was the Lakers 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: traded for my second favorite player in the league. So 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: now my favorite player in the league, Lebron James, plays 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: with my second favorite player in the league, the Goat, 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: with my large adult Slovenian son, So all that's great. 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: We did a live reaction on Sunday morning that we 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: got a lot of new viewers to the channel from. 32 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: So if you're new, a little quick introduction like rate, subscribe, review, 33 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: appreciate that. I'm Nick TV Show. First things first, that's Demanse. 34 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: He's my son. I know it's a little complicated in 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: the little bit. You'll figure out as it goes. He's 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: in LA and we do this pod together two or 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: three times a week and welcome in. So I thought 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: demon's a this week would be all super Bowl, but 39 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: when the biggest trading in NBA history happens, that changes things. 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: So let's first quickly get to miss the cut. Yeah, 41 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: well it's the it's the most shocking trade in history. 42 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: And okay, so since you said that, let me just 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: do this real quick before you miss the Before we 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: do miss the cut single biggest trading in NBA history. 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: The Milwaukee Bocks trade kaream Op Lilul Jabbard to the 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers after he had led them to a title, 47 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: had won three league MVPs. He then goes to the 48 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: Lakers wins three more league MVPs and five titles. That's 49 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: number one. Number two. The San Francisco Warriors trade Wilt 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Chamberlain to the Philadelphia seventy six Ers. He immediately rips 51 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: off three consecutive league MVPs and wins the title. Number three, 52 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: lukanncis traded at twenty five years old a Los Angeles Lakers. 53 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: So it's the biggest trade in fifty years. It's the 54 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: most shocking trade ever. We'll get to that in a moment. 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: What missed the cut? Tyre Listen, Noah Lyles keeps trying 56 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: to beef with Tyreek Hill. Stop it. Cooper cup Rams 57 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: don't want him anymore. Kind of saw the writing on 58 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: the wall coming and Taylor Swift wearing Casey right to 59 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: the Grammys, demase. I gotta tell you they're a small 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: little house. No, a little stress in the house. I'm 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: not naming names, but a lot of the women or 62 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: girls I live with, meaning my wife and or daughters, 63 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: not only not Taylor Swift fans like actively you know, 64 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: active non Taylor Swift fans. And at this point, I've 65 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: got to tell you, maybe it's the chief's red bleeding 66 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: through the veins. I'm like, I don't know. She seems 67 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: pretty cool to Mendrick. Everybody seems to like her, Like 68 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about music, seems popular, so I 69 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: don't the I don't. I can't call myself full blown swifty, 70 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: but I got no problem with Taylor Swift. I like 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: her music. Uh yeah, whatever it is, okay, demon, Let's 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: get to the most shocking trade and NBA history. 73 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the trade her around the world. Luke obviously 74 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: got traded for Anthony Davis in a first round pick, 75 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: I believe. Uh, but a player of this caliber and 76 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: being so sudden. What was going on over there though 77 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: was so bad to where they just got Luke out 78 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: of there so abruptly. 79 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: The answer is nothing could have been going on over 80 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: there so bad you would trade Luka Doncic without him 81 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: demanding to be traded, all right, it's quite simply one 82 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: of the worst transactions in the history of professional sports 83 00:04:55,760 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: on the map side of things, and Bruce said that 84 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: somebody you know in NBA circles called him and said 85 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: that if the MAVs had called them and said Luka 86 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: Doncic is available, his response would be who did he kill? 87 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: And how likely can we cover it up? Like the 88 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: idea that this player and I am baffled baffled by 89 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: the number of people and it's not a lot, but 90 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: the fact that it's any and the fact that it 91 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: is includes the general manager of the Dallas Mavericks who 92 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: have tried to convince themselves that because Luca, let's just 93 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: say he's permanently out of shape. I don't buy that, 94 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: but let's say he is. And let's say the guy 95 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: actually has a drinking problem. I don't think he does, 96 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: but let's say he does that that means you trade him. 97 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: It's incomprehensible. So here's just some This is where it's 98 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: very important that we have facts that we deal with. 99 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: The argument for trading Luca was his condition, which I'm 100 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: not going to act like is elite. But I am 101 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: going to act like this. The most recent NBA season, 102 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: who do you think played the most minutes of any 103 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: player in the league, by by the way, by more 104 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: than one hundred. The answer is Lukadjic to play thirty 105 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: FTEs all those yes, okay, of course, but he played 106 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: more minutes than Jason Tatum. He played more minutes Anthony Edwards, 107 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: who were second and third. Yeah, of course. I mean, 108 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: but are we like, oh yeah, and you and you 109 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: saw what that he wore down in the finals? Yeah, 110 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: maybe a little like the last year. In the finals, 111 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: he was so incredibly out of shape. He only averaged 112 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: twenty nine to nine and six, which was down from 113 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: what he did in the conference finals, which is thirty two, 114 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: ten and eight. So that's why I find this so ridiculous, 115 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, man, guy's conditioning's brutal, Okay, so 116 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: we need to make sure that he has five percent 117 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: left in the gas tank. And maybe one of the 118 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: reasons because in the conference finals, in the second last 119 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: series of the year, the guy lit the Minnesota Timberwolves 120 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: on fire and got him out of there in five games. 121 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: In the semifinals, he got the Oklahoma City Thunder out 122 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: of there, and in the first round got the Clippers 123 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: out of there. Then they lost to Boston, who is 124 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: awesome and was a better team. And it's like, oh, 125 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: he's out of shape and he's terrible defensively. The MAVs 126 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: last year, once they made the trades, were a top 127 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: eight defense. So even with Luca's defensive limitations, you had 128 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: a top eight defense. And you know what, it's exhausting 129 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: being double and tripled teamed throughout a game. I just 130 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: he is, at worst, at worst, the fourth best player 131 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: in the sport. And he's younger than all the guys 132 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: ahead of him. Again, I think he's the third best 133 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: player in the sport. I think he's better than SGA. 134 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: But if you want to say SGA has trumped him, fine, 135 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: He's a few months younger than SGA. He's years younger 136 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: than Jannis and Jokic. He is demand say he has 137 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: five First Team All NBAS five five in a row. 138 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: Here is the complete list of active NBA players with 139 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: five First Team All NBAS or more. Lebron James, Kevin Durant, 140 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: Jannie Harden, Luca. That's the list. Steph doesn't have it. 141 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: Jokic doesn't have it. I think Steph doesn't have it. 142 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Steph has four Lucas five. I he is coming off 143 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: the best season of his life. And the MAVs going 144 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: into Christmas were nineteen and ten. Then he got hurt. 145 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: They're seven and fourteen. Since then they have fallen apart 146 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: without him. And it is so it listen when a 147 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: trade is so bad that smart people are offering conspiracies 148 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: such as the new MAVs owners are actually trying to 149 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: tank the fan base so they can move the team 150 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: to Vegas, as if that's a real rationale. And the 151 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: reason the smart people think that could be going on 152 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: is because no one would be this dumb to make 153 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: this trade. I you have just created a catastrophic error 154 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: the likes of which I've really Demanda. I've never seen. 155 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: I've never seen a team opt into trading their generational 156 00:10:52,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: star at the peak of his powers because they they're 157 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: arguing defense. 158 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: What do you meaning like a bunch of discussions were 159 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: at It seems like it was just between two guys, 160 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: Paulinka and Harrison. 161 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: So that listen, I think that's correct. And I said 162 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: something about Nico on TV yesterday that brew really disagreed 163 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: with where I said, Listen, I think Nico Harrison got 164 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: to the MAVs. He he's been a relationship guy, he 165 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: was a sneaker rep at Nike. He's always he got 166 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: the job because of great relationships with superstars. Did not 167 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: have a great relationship with Luca. Luca had more power 168 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: in the organization, and so he moved him out. So 169 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: now he's the most powerful person in the organization. And 170 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: Bruce said, and listen, Bruce knows Nico. I don't. And 171 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: brew was like, that's basically that's unscharacter, And so I said, Okay, 172 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: the alternative, he's one of the worst evaluators of talent 173 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: and team building in the history of the league. Like, 174 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what's more of an indictment. I don't 175 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: know that it was like a Machiavellian power move. Okay, 176 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: that's too harsh. Fine, So the alternative is he doesn't 177 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: know what he's doing. You traded like and it's not 178 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: only that trading Luca is really unforgivable. How many guys 179 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: could you have called about and the team just hangs 180 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: up the phone. I honestly think the list is two. 181 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: I think if you call about Wimby, the Spurs hang 182 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: up the phone because he's so much younger. And if 183 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: you call about Yokid, the Nuggets hang up the phone. 184 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: I think everyone else there is at least a meeting. 185 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: If you called about Yiannis, the Bucks say, let us 186 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: call you back and they discuss it. It's if you 187 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: call about Jason Tatum, the Celtics say, don't tell anyone 188 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about this, but let us call you back. 189 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: If you call about Shay Now, I'm not saying they 190 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: do it one for one, but they at least have 191 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: a meeting. And certainly if you call, like, could you 192 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: have gotten better than this return? I think so because 193 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: I think that they are. I think Anthony Davis is excellent, 194 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: but he's about to be thirty two. And if you're 195 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: worried about Luca's injuries, how are you not worried about 196 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis's injuries. At the end of the day, you 197 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: are a team that does not have your own draft pick. 198 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: You being the MAVs in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, 199 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine, or twenty thirty, so four years straight 200 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: you don't have your own pick. Kyrie is turning thirty 201 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: three and now has all the leverage in the world 202 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: this summer to opt out and demand the Max, and 203 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is turning thirty two, and your window is 204 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: immediate as opposed to having a decade of Luca and 205 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: Luca wanted to stay. Luca wanted the Supermax. This costs 206 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Luca one hundred million dollars and you you don't and 207 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: if you're doing it, and it's not because you're just 208 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: doing a full reset of calling Houston and asking for 209 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: Thompson and Shingoon and all the picks or Thompson and 210 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Green and all the picks or I am. I 211 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: know other people have made this joke, but it's true 212 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: when the immediate reaction is, uh, you must have been hacked. 213 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: This trade makes no sense. You got absolutely annihilated. So 214 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: let's go to some of these follow ups. De Manse, Well, well, yeah. 215 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: The Supermax thing with him about to get the hundred million, 216 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: that's the GM just not wanting to give him the money. 217 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: You're saying that. You said that, yeah, so they would 218 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: be the greatest. 219 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: So he was eligible for five years, three hundred and 220 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: forty five million, and the because of his conditioning or 221 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: injury risk or whatever they were concerned about giving that 222 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: to him. The reason that's idiotic is because he would 223 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: have actually had more trade value if you had signed 224 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: him to the Supermax, because then the whole league you 225 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: can auction him off too. The reason you couldn't technically 226 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: hold a real open auction for Luca right now is 227 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: he only has a year and a half left on 228 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: his deal. So let's say Milwaukee was like, you know what, 229 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: we will give you Giannis. But it gets out and 230 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: Luca's like, Okay, do what you want, but I'm not 231 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: staying in Milwaukee after a year and a half, then 232 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: maybe they don't do the deal. If you have him 233 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: signed to the Supermax and he's under contract for five 234 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: more years, he can trade it wherever you want. Like, 235 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: the return on this is just truly unprecedented. When the 236 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: Nets traded Kevin Durant, they got four first round picks, 237 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: Cam Johnson and McHale Bridges, and then they traded McHale 238 00:16:54,520 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: Bridges for five first round picks. The MAVs got Anthony Davis, 239 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: Max Christy, and one first round pick. They didn't even 240 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: get both of the Laker picks and the flip side 241 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: to that is I have heard, you know, for years, 242 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: not so much these days, but you hear a lot about. Man, 243 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: how much did the Lakers give up for Anthony Davis? 244 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: They give a Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, brandon Ingram, the 245 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: number four overall pick, and two more firsts. Okay, so 246 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: the Lakers, and again everyone's like, Nick, are you gonna 247 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: give Rob Bolinka credit here? I mean, did a great 248 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: job with this one, There's no doubt about it. But 249 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the game that everybody plays, which is 250 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: Rob Bolinka gets credit and blame, and of course lud 251 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: GM Lebron James gets credit and blame. And so people 252 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: were like, well, Lebron had no idea about the Luca 253 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: trade one hundred percent that is correct, but we all 254 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: agree Lebron got him Anthony Davis. Right, So, ultimately the 255 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: Lakers traded Lonzo Ball, brandon Ingram, Josh Hart, and Max 256 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: Christy and what ended up being four first round picks 257 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: for a championship and for Luke A do Ancic. That's 258 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: one of the greatest trades ever. Took those guys got 259 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, got a championship, then took Anthony Davis added 260 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: one first round pick and got Luke ad Ancic and now, 261 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: and here's the other piece of it, Demons nineteen sixty 262 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: to now sixty five years of basketball, there have been 263 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: eight seasons total when the Lakers didn't have a top 264 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: ten all time player or a guy who could be 265 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: Jerry Weston, Wilt Kareem Magic, Shaq, Kobe, le Bron, now Luca. 266 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: They were gonna for the first time ever be kind 267 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: of out in the wilderness, and the MAVs gave him Luca. 268 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Luke and Lebron together. 269 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yeah, what do you think with Luca being 270 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 2: over there, what did the next couple of years look 271 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: like for them? 272 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: Well, I think people are overestimating or overstating how bad 273 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: of a fit this will be Luke and Lebron. You 274 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: seem you seem like you don't you have your concerns 275 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: about it. 276 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: Well, no, I was. I was talking to Daniel yesterday. 277 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: I think, like three or four years ago, it would 278 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: have been bad. But now that Lebron's like waning and 279 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: he's like older, I think I think it works. I 280 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: think a while ago it would have been bad. 281 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: But that's exactly how I feel Lebron has given If 282 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: people watch Lakers this year, Lebron has been happy to 283 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: give the car keys to Austin Reeves so he can 284 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: play off ball. Right the people saying like, oh, the 285 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: Lakers took a step back. Listen, defensively, they went from 286 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: bad to horrifyingly bad defensively because Ad was their only 287 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: great defender and he's gone. Now Now, I do think 288 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna make more moves for the deadline. They have 289 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: to add a center. I understand that, But offensively they're 290 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: going to be elite. Luca by himself, guarantees you a 291 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: top six offense. By himself. You put LAGUDANCC on the team, 292 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: you have top six offense. Now, every single possession you're 293 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: gonna have all game long is either gonna be orchestrated 294 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: by Luka Dancic or Lebron James. Are you kidding me? 295 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Lebron's gonna be able to play off ball Lebron's forties 296 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: and year twenty two Like, yes, Historically, Lebron has not 297 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: been wanted to hand the car keys to anyone. He's 298 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: never in his life had a teammate better than him. 299 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: Now he does, Like I think that Lebron's going to 300 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: really enjoy it. 301 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: You don't think Ad better than Lebron, like Weather playing snow. 302 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. AD might have been the last two 303 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: years better than Lebron in the aggregate, but Ad was 304 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: still not the guy who was dictating the offense. ADI 305 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: was not better than Lebron offensively. First of all, I 306 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: don't think even right now, I don't think offensively is better. 307 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: You can say he's better. He's the best defensive player 308 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: in the league, sure, but on the offensive side of 309 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 1: the ball, he wasn't better than him. And he also 310 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: Lebron still had to because of positions, had to dictate everything. 311 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: Lebron's never had a teammate that it was even close. 312 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: As far as well, how are we going to get 313 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: the best possession? The answer has always been giving me 314 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: the ball. The only reason he's handed it over to 315 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: Austin is because it's so exhausting to play that way 316 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: like he can't he doesn't have the energy for it anymore. 317 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: But now Luca will do it Luca. Lebron drafts Luca 318 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: in every All Star draft. Lebron tried to sign Luca 319 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: to his sneaker line. That doesn't even exist. He was 320 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: gonna create it for Luca. Lucas said, Lebron is my 321 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: basketball idol. Now they're on a team together, So I 322 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be awesome. I really actually think it's 323 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome offensively. And if they can make a 324 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: move for a center. Here's here's what I know. Luca 325 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: owns the thunder and if Lebron, because of Luca, can 326 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: get to the playoffs with more energy, and that's gonna 327 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: be This team's gonna be a bitch to play. You 328 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: better be able to match buckets. Go ahead, I see 329 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: the twinkle in your eye. 330 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're saying that the Lakers, they obviously got 331 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: the better end of the bargain here with the whole 332 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: Dallas trade, But this don't this year. You couldn't see 333 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: Dallas being better than the Lakers, not. 334 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: Pieces they have now. So no, So this is so 335 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people think that. I think that's insane, 336 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: And that's not about the Lakers as much as it 337 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: is about Dallas, which actually will just take me to 338 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: takes on takes. The people ask me the most ridiculous 339 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: reactions to the Luca trade. I saw, I am. There 340 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: is a number of folks in the media who for 341 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: the last couple of years have been as hard on 342 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis as anybody could imagine. And the moment he's 343 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: on the Lakers anymore. Now he's awesome again. Now and 344 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: now now the MAVs could be the I saw it take. 345 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 1: The MAVs could be the one seed that the MAVs are. 346 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: I would be very surprised if the MAVs won a 347 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: playoff round. They built a team. Now they are going 348 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: to be great defensively. I will give them credit that 349 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: they will be great defensively. They have one guy on 350 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: their roster, one guy that can create his own shot. 351 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: It's Kyrie Or They built a whole team of guys 352 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: that are catch and shoot specialists or defensive guys because 353 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: they didn't have to worry about offense because they had Lukatanjij. 354 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: Now you don't have Lukancij. You have two guys who 355 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: have only ever been a part of winning basketball if 356 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: they have had one of the single greatest offensive creators 357 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: in the history of basketball alongside them, and Anthony Davis 358 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: and Luca and Kyrie Irving with Lebron or with Luca. 359 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: Those guys are gone now, so Like, what does Kyrie 360 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: Irving look like on a team full of great defenders, 361 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: but he is the only initiator of offense. Go ask 362 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: the Celtics. And Kyrie's been awesome with the MAVs, but 363 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: since Luca's been out there seven and fourteen like and 364 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: so in Ad. I love Ad. I think Ad is 365 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: an underrated player. But Ad is very hit and miss offensively. 366 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: You gotta get buckets somehow. I just think the MAVs. 367 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: The MAVs are gonna be an awesome defensive team that's 368 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: gonna get whacked in Round one. And people are arguing 369 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: the MAVs could be the one seed, the MAVs could 370 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: win the title. I don't. Maybe I'll be wrong. I 371 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: I do not see that. I saw it. You know, 372 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: Barkley was big on the MAVs chances. Now I think 373 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: Steve and A said Dallas could be the one seed. 374 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: I think they're fourteen games out of first and the 375 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 1: nine seed. I don't, I mean, honest question. Let me 376 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: look this up real quick. If Dallas went undefeated the 377 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: rest of the way, would that guarantee them the one seed? 378 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: Dallas right now has twenty four losses. Okay, so if 379 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: they went undefeated. By the way Anthony Davis currently injured, 380 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: they would be fifty eight and twenty four. Do we 381 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: think Oklahoma City's not getting to sixty wins. I think 382 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City's getting to sixty wins. So I'll go ahead 383 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: and say they're not going to be the one seed. 384 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: I think that the I think that if they won 385 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: thirty two in a row, they wouldn't be the one seed. 386 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: And you know what, maybe I'm a little too down 387 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: on them. I don't think they're gonna win thirty two 388 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: in a up. Here's what I think is more likely. 389 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: The Dallas Mavericks are in the play in this year. 390 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: That's what I think is gonna happen. I mean, right 391 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: now they're the right now, they're the eight the So 392 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: I just I don't I know. I was saying. 393 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: Just to get a little bit better on defense, and 394 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 2: eighty obviously isn't just a little bit better. 395 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: But no, I mean, this is the part that I 396 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: don't understand with the Lakers skepticism and the Dallas optimism 397 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: is this, there's only two ways in this league to 398 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: compete for a championship. One way is what the Celtics 399 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: did last year. What the Thunder are trying to do 400 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: what the Knicks are trying to do with the Calves 401 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: are trying to do, which is have a great player, 402 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: MVP candidate, ish guy and an amazing supporting cast Thunder 403 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: with Shay, Celtics with Tatum Calves, with Donovan Nicks with 404 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: Jalen Right. That's one way to do it. The other 405 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: way to do it is to have one of the 406 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 1: greatest players in the history of the league. That's what 407 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: the Nuggets, Bucks, and MAVs had been trying to do. 408 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: The MAVs now are in neither category. The MAVs now 409 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: have a nice team, but they don't have a great 410 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: team and they don't have a transcendent player. The Lakers 411 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: were trying to do it the have one of the 412 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: greatest players in the history of the sport. Way the 413 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: problem was their guy who fit that category, Lebron James, 414 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: is no longer in that phase of his career, so 415 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: they had a hard ceiling. They would run into the 416 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: team that has one of the greatest players in the 417 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: history of the game at the apex of his powers, 418 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: and they would lose the mevs. We're trying to do it, 419 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: h Luca, take care of it please, and they made 420 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: a conference finals, had a down year, made an NBA finals, 421 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: and they opted out of it. So they can be 422 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: one of the many teams that has two all stars, 423 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: two All Star caliber guys. Man that don't do nothing 424 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: for you. If you trying to win championship, just doesn't 425 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 1: you better have if you're if the top of your 426 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: roster is if the best player on your team is 427 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: the eleventh best player in the sport or the ninth 428 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: best player in the sport, the second best player better 429 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: be the twenty first best player, and the third better 430 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: be the twenty eighth, and the fourth better be the 431 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: forty second, and the fifth better be the fifty fourth. 432 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: You've got to just be stacking awesome guys to what 433 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: the Celtics did, so what the thunder are trying to do? 434 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: The mevs. I still just can't believe it. Luca's going 435 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: to be one of the greatest players ever. He's thirty 436 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: to a game in the playoffs. He's one of Luca 437 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: in NBA history, is second all time to Michael Jordan 438 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: in playoffs scoring, and is I think third all time 439 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: in regular season scoring. And he gives you nine rebounds, 440 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: nine assists and again this whole we're worried about his conditioning, durability. Man, 441 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: last year, dude played ninety games thirty eight minutes a game. 442 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: I get it. And that's the other reason this is 443 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: great for Luca Demonse is he now gets to learn 444 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: at the feet of lebron on how to take care 445 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: of his body. Switch out bud bud light for red wine, 446 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: switch out Hookah for some fine cigars, hire a chef, 447 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: work out, getting a little bit better shape. And here's 448 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: the real cruel thing. Demands for the MAVs. Let's say 449 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: they were right that Luca was drinking too much, eating 450 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: too much, wasn't being a professional, that they were gonna 451 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: give him this money, and he was gonna be injured 452 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: and out of shape and moody. Let's say all of 453 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: it was correct, They're now going to be wrong because 454 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: now he's pissed and motivated. Like maybe you would have 455 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: been right, but now you're going to be wrong, Like, 456 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: so there's no way to prove yourself right because now 457 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have Can you imagine what Lucas gonna do 458 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: to the MAVs the first time they play? Yeah? What if? 459 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: What if the mass are to meet the Lakers in 460 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: the finals. 461 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: In the Western Conference Finals. Yeah, I don't. I think 462 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: the best hope we have for them meeting in the 463 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: playoffs is round one, and I don't think that's we 464 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: would need. I don't know how that could realistically happen. 465 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: Like could the Lakers move up to the three line 466 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: and the MAVs move up to the six? I maybe could. 467 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: I just don't you know, maybe everyone else is right 468 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: and I'm wrong about the MAVs. They're about to just 469 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: slight the world on fire. They move all the way 470 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: up to the four and the Lakers stay at the five. God, 471 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: I would love to see that. I would love to 472 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: see it. I just people forget who quickly forgot who 473 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: Luca was? And I shouldn't say people, because I think 474 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: most just the MAVs did, and Nico Harrison did. And 475 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: speaking of Nico Harrison, yeah, let's get to some of 476 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,479 Speaker 1: this go ahead. That's perfect. 477 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: So, I mean, not only was the trade crazy, he 478 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 2: was obviously vananas, but the things that he was saying 479 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 2: at the podium, do you do you kind of want 480 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 2: to you want to hit on that? It didn't seem 481 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: like he made his case any better. 482 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: No, and it looked like Jason Kidd was Chris pissed. Yeah, yeah, so, 483 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean Nico Harrison said to me, the future is 484 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: three or four years, ten years, ten years from now. 485 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: They're probably burying me in Jay by then. Not if 486 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: you have Luca man. I mean that's the thing is. Yes, now, 487 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: the future is three or four years. You did that 488 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: to yourself. You had a twenty five year old, you 489 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: traded him. Now to be listen, Luca turns. Let's just 490 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: call everybody the age they're gonna be in six weeks 491 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: makes it easier. Luke will be twenty six, a d 492 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: will be thirty two, Kyrie W'll be thirty three. You 493 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: had a twenty six year old to build around. Now 494 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: now you have a thirty two year old big man 495 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: to build around. One of the benefits to Luca being 496 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: out of shape or whatever the hell you want to 497 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: call it is you are seeing. It's not as if 498 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: you're like, well, I wonder how his game will age. 499 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: He has an old man game. Now he's got he's 500 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: got a lectra weight on him. He gets you on 501 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: his giant ass, on his hip, and then you you're 502 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: just trapped. You can't guard him, he gets one step 503 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: ahead of you, put you on his hip, and now 504 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: you're just screwed that game forever. 505 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 2: So I think this trade is horrible, But I do 506 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: have to if he's playing an old man game now, 507 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 2: then it's gonna get even more old managed when he 508 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: gets old. He gets older, right, it's gonna get worse. 509 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but such a great passer. Yeah, so 510 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: you've made it like that, he said. Nico Harrison said 511 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: he thought Rob Blinka was joking, you know, obviously, Yeah, 512 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't didn't tell Jason ca and then 513 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: he said, quote, we feel he told everyone that would listen, 514 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: defense wins championships, which, by the way, it's just not true, 515 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: like you can't win a championship with an awful defense. 516 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: But in the modern NBA, transcendent offensive players win championships 517 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: along with good defense, like the Celtics were one of 518 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: the greatest offenses ever. Jokic is not a great defensive player. 519 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: Everyone thinks he's the best player in the league because 520 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: of what he does offensively. Giannis is special because he 521 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: does it on both ends, like it's just dump. He 522 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: also said, quote, we really felt like we got ahead 523 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: of what was going to be a tumultuous summer, him 524 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: being eligible with a supermax, a year away from him 525 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: being able to opt out of any contract. So we 526 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: felt like, in front of that, only tumultuous because you 527 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: wanted it to be. Is not tumultruous for Luke ad 528 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: On just to be like, Hi, I'm an MVP candidate 529 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: every single year, I'd carry the finals, I won the 530 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: scoring title, I am first team All NBA every year. 531 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: I'd like the max. And then you say, yes, of 532 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: course you would, and you can have it. That's not tumultuous. 533 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: I just listen. We'll see what happens with Nico. But 534 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 1: I think he I think the MAVs losing Round one, 535 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: and then Kyrie is like, hey, guess what, you have 536 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: to give me the max the whole the contract you 537 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be a super max like Luca's, but 538 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: you were afraid of paying uh Luca. But now you 539 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: have to pay me because I'm the only creator on 540 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: the team and you have no choice. So I I 541 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: and I will suggla in the off season. Well, I 542 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: don't listen, there there's you know, I think in I 543 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,720 Speaker 1: do think there is a chance that Lebron leaves this summer. 544 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: I do I think there is a chance that Lebron, 545 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: if it goes great, I think Lebron might ex opt 546 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: out and extend for less money and be like, holy crap, 547 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: we can actually win a championship and I can be, 548 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, like a late stage Carl Malone, just a 549 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: true power forward, get buckets, you can run everything. There's 550 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: also a chance that it is a little clunkier than 551 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be, and that Lebron, you know, 552 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: now that they've traded away ad that he's like, Okay, 553 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: do I want to spend year twenty three, my final 554 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: year potentially playing with Steph? Do I want to, you know, 555 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: go do something else. I think in the summer there 556 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: is a chance he could leave. I also think there's 557 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 1: a chance he could be like man, I could play 558 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: three more years because of this, try to win championships. 559 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: So I think all of that is unknown. I do 560 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: want to say this about Kyrie. I would have been 561 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: terrified if I were the MAVs demanse to upset the 562 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: delicate homeostasis. Kyrie has found himself in Dallas. Kyrie's been 563 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: a perfect citizen, excellent on the court, no distractions, all 564 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: of it. This is the finding out that the team 565 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: knifed Luca like this. If there was any player in 566 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: the league that I would be worried it could significantly 567 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: hurt the team's relationship with that player, it would be Kyrie. 568 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: Kerry's such a you know what I mean, thoughtful guy 569 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: and so big on, like you know, we're not just 570 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: cogs in a wheel. Like this is all of it. 571 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: I would be really worried that Kyrie's gonna go ahead. 572 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not only Kyrie, but just like other players, 573 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 2: like free agents, what does this say to them? Like 574 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: that Dallas being a destination, I mean that certainly makes 575 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 2: it less of a destination. I feel like if that's 576 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: what they're doing to their top. 577 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: Guy, that's what I feel like. I feel like everyone 578 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: kind of understood, like, yeah, anyone can be traded, but 579 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: the very best players in the league don't get shock traded, right, 580 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: Like that's not a but now it happened, all right, 581 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 1: let's go to the other NBA moves quick. 582 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 2: So Fox and Levine, you know, under all that trade stuff, 583 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: they also got traded and other players are probably feeling vulnerable. 584 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 2: And Giannis even came out and said that he wants 585 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: all European League players to play for big city teams. 586 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: Do you think that this trade paved the way for 587 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: more bananas trades coming in the future. 588 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: All right, so here's here's what I think. Trade deadline's Thursday, 589 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: which is just terrible by the NBA. You either got 590 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,399 Speaker 1: to move the trade deadline back a week or up 591 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: a week. And by that I mean you want the 592 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: trade deadline to either be during the bye week of 593 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: the NBA, of the NFL playoffs or the week after 594 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl when there's a dead time. What you don't 595 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: want is the NBA trade deadline to be in super 596 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: Bowl week and it takes you know, like Wimby getting 597 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: de Aaron Fox if it happened next week would lead 598 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: shows instead this week? It obviously the Luca thing ate 599 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: all the took all the oxygen. But super Bowl would 600 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: have you down the road. Yeah yeah right, But again, 601 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: what would the Spurs have given up for Luca? Would 602 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: they've given you every draft pick they have acquired, plus 603 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: Castle plus Vasell Again, it's just you put Luca and 604 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: Wimby together. Of course they would have. Here Here's what 605 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: I feel very confident the Lakers are going to make 606 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: another move because they have to get a big and 607 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: the guy who I would be nervous about if I 608 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: were that I might be getting traded. It's a guy 609 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 1: I like a lot, but his Austin Reeves. Yeah, because 610 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: now Austin's redundant. It's like, you know what I mean, 611 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: Like the is Austin ever gonna have the ball in 612 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: his hands when you have Luke and Lebron and he's 613 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: their most valuable trade chip. And because Nico Harrison didn't 614 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: make the Lakers give them Dalton connect or they're twenty 615 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: thirty one first or a swap, the Lakers have real 616 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 1: stuff to move that The Warriors are telling every reporter 617 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: in the world they are trying. They are desperately trying 618 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 1: to get another star. The only one I think they 619 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: can get is Durant. And I don't know if I 620 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: see that happening, that would be awesome, that now wouldn't 621 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: feel like Dre Mair like it did ahead that I 622 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: think I think cool enough, you know what I I mean. 623 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: I think that they would have attention. So I think 624 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: I think the Warriors are trying to get Durant. I 625 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: don't think the Suns will trade Durant. Jimmy Butler has 626 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: made it clear the Warriors were trying to get Jimmy Butler, 627 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: and then Wendy reported, I mean Jimmy's Jimmy's Wendy reported 628 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: that what scuttled the Warriors Jimmy Butler trade is Jimmy said, 629 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: I won't sign an extension with the Warriors. His all 630 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: anger at Miami is they won't give him an extension. 631 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: They find him a trade partner who wants him and 632 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: wants to give an extension. He's like, no, I don't 633 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: want to do that. So Jimmy wants Phoenix and Phoenix 634 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: only the Warriors thought maybe they could get Zach Levine. 635 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: Levine now got traded. The Warriors might be manned without 636 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: a country here for the rest of the season. For 637 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: real they want They called out Lebron again. Lebron's not 638 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: leaving this year. Lebron is going to see how this 639 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: Luca thing plays out. 640 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 2: And so Lamello wasn't it who talks to LaMelo LaMelo? 641 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean, was I okay, yeah, I saw that. Good luck? 642 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: Good luck. I mean, you're trying to win a championship. 643 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: We're adding LaMelo ball that ain't gonna work, guys, and 644 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean it is. 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We're gonna have all 671 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: of our super Bowl bets and ambling show and prop stuff. 672 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: Will do that, But let's get to the Miles Garrett 673 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: news before we get out of here and some other 674 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: super Bowl stuff. 675 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, So, after eight years in Cleveland, Miles Garrett 676 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 2: has officially requested a trade. What teams could you see 677 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 2: him go into? And would him go into a certain team? 678 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 2: Scare you? 679 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,879 Speaker 1: So? I don't know if the Browns are gonna trade him. 680 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: If they do, the team that you just say, screw it, 681 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: We're doing it is Detroit, and Detroit should say we 682 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: have crushed the draft the last few years, so we 683 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,359 Speaker 1: have enough young players on our roster that we can 684 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: take this type of swing. He is a Hall of 685 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: Fame player in his prime, and we'll give you two 686 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: first round picks. Form That's That's the team that to 687 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: me makes the most sense. If it's really about winning 688 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: a championship, Miles should want to go to the NFC 689 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:05,760 Speaker 1: because the AFC teams that are, you know, front burner teams, 690 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: I don't think are likely to be involved in this, 691 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: and I don't know the Browns would make that move anyway. 692 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: So I I think that the Lion. The Lions are 693 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: the team that I think makes the most sense. Uh 694 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: for Miles Garrett. All right, let's get to some of 695 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: the opening night stuff and the Goodell stuff you want 696 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: to talk about, So go ahead to Monsey. 697 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,359 Speaker 2: Uh Yeah, So Goodell came out and said that all 698 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 2: the refing stuff was bs and it kind of just 699 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 2: I saw a comment on YouTube. I want to run 700 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 2: it by you. Sure it was from Jared and he said, 701 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 2: I'm actually kind of surprised. And Nick gets so angry 702 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: about the conspiracy talk. It's really the biggest compliment the 703 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 2: rest of the world can pay to his team. They 704 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: win so often that it seems too improbable without predetermining 705 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 2: the outcome. Yeah, so, like I was curious about that too, 706 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 2: Like you always get pissed about them. 707 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: But it is like, well, here's here's I understand the argument, 708 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,720 Speaker 1: but here's why I get I find it not only 709 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: outrageous but dangerous for the league. You had on NFL 710 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 1: network Tom Beelasarro and Ian Rappoport on opening night for 711 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:30,359 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl interviewing the owner of the Chiefs, and 712 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: they asked him about the conspiracy theory that the league 713 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 1: is rigged. Think about that for a moment. The NFL owns, 714 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: the channel, employees, the reporters, those people are asking one 715 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: of the owners, Hey, this sport we all love so much. 716 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: It's the it's the only true zeitgeist in the nation. 717 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: The only thing everyone agrees on is watching the Super 718 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: Bowl on Sunday. That Sundays are for football. That old 719 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: thing that we've built. Is it rigged? Is the fix in? 720 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: Is it? Professional wrestling? Travis Kelcey when he was asked yesterday, 721 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: what's the one thing he would ask the media? You 722 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: know what? He said that why are you guys so 723 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: obsessed with the ref stuff, and I think it I 724 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: do think. Yes, I understand that it's a compliment, but 725 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: I also think it has taken away from what was 726 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: supposed to be. It doesn't have to be a celebration. 727 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: I understand that. But the story being is this the 728 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: greatest team of all time and instead they're being this weird, 729 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: fuzzy controversy that's not even a controversy surrounding it has been. 730 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: And the fact that it is to me a big 731 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: picture media warning about the tag the tail wagging the dog, 732 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 1: that social media and anonymous accounts are setting the agenda 733 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,719 Speaker 1: rather than people who are actual media members. All of 734 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: that to me is super concerning and frustrating. 735 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 2: And so that gets from your media members, I mean, 736 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 2: like from like the fans and like random folks on Twitter. 737 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: It is what it is, but it got credibility when 738 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 1: it's like Goodell gets asked about it, the players get 739 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: asked about it, the owner gets asked about it. That 740 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: part of it is irritating. All right, So here's what 741 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 1: I want to do Thursday. We're gonna do the gambling show. 742 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: We're also going to do the if the Chiefs win. 743 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the full here's Thursday's pot. We do 744 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: the breakdown of the game, because this is a game 745 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: either team can win. We are then also going to 746 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: do if the Chiefs win, where the team ranks historically, 747 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: and where Mahomes ranks historically, and then we'll do our 748 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: prop bet stuff, which we love so much. Before we 749 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: do any of that on Thursday, Demanday, let's answer a 750 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: few of these listener questions. Start with Meh's question and 751 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 1: then we'll get to some of the others. 752 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 2: Okay, me and says, have you have you considered that 753 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 2: having Lebron and Mahomes as your goats may end up 754 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 2: being a contradictory opinion. 755 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: So here's the thing on that, because a lot of 756 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,640 Speaker 1: people ask something similar. I don't think there's such a 757 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: thing really as contradictory opinions cross sport. So I think 758 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: it's totally intellectually honest to have different goat if you will, 759 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: criteria for a basketball player and a football player and 760 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: a baseball player and a boxer, and you know the 761 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 1: like there's they're different sports. So no, I think that 762 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: if I had where I think it would be contradictory 763 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: was if I was on the record basically saying you 764 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:29,239 Speaker 1: have to have Terry Bradshaw ahead of Peyton Manning because 765 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: Terry has four rings, Peyton as two, and if one 766 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: guy has more rings than the other, he has to 767 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: always be the greater quarterback. And then I was like, well, 768 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: Mahomes gonna be the goat with four that would be contradictory. 769 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 1: But having a certain set of criteria for basketball and 770 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: a certain set of criteria for football, to me is 771 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,399 Speaker 1: totally legitimate. All right, let's get some of these other 772 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 1: listener questions a reminder, like rate subscriber, if you do 773 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: all that cool stuff. 774 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 2: Uh, Jason, I keep seeing I keep seeing people looking 775 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 2: for NFL comparisons for Luke for the Luca deal. Do 776 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,919 Speaker 2: you think a fair one would be JJ for any 777 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 2: of Cupp, Derrick Henry, or Joe Mixon. 778 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: No, I listen, No, those are no. The problem with 779 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: the Luca deal is NBA superstars can only be compared 780 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,839 Speaker 1: to quarterbacks. So people are like, oh, it's like this 781 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: quarterback for TJ. Watt because this other guy's great defensive play. No, 782 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: because the impact of us NBA superstar, which Anthony Davis is, 783 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,240 Speaker 1: can only be compared to a quarterback, So the comp 784 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: would be and entering their prime, top five guy in 785 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: the world, coming off the best season of his career 786 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: being traded for an older, good quarterback who has never 787 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,760 Speaker 1: reached his the peak this guy has. So the comp 788 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: would have been if after the twenty twenty one season, 789 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,520 Speaker 1: the third thirteen seconds year, a team traded the Bills 790 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:11,479 Speaker 1: traded Josh Allen for Matthew Stafford and a pick. That's 791 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: the This guy's won a championship, he's older, he's not 792 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: quite as good, and you're trading a guy who hasn't 793 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: even yet reached his prime, who is in the discussion 794 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: for the second best in the whole world. Uh. And 795 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: you're doing it for thirty cents on the dollar. That's 796 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: the if somebody wanted to again, you got to go. 797 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: There is no comp right now, right now, there isn't 798 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: one that works because we don't have any like middle 799 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 1: aged quarterbacks. The quarterbacks are all either under thirty or old. Uh. 800 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 1: And so yeah, that Josh Allen three years ago, Josh 801 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,240 Speaker 1: Allen for Stafford and to pick? Is the comp all right? Next? 802 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,359 Speaker 2: Uh? Cut yeah, cutlass. Is it possible Luca doesn't sign 803 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 2: an extension with the Lakers. 804 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: I would be utterly shocked. I think Lucas signs an 805 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: extension this offseason. So no, I people don't come to 806 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: the Lakers to leave, No, And so that would shock me. 807 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 2: Elijah Nick, what category does your signing Kyrie is the 808 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 2: first step in Luca leaving Dallas fall under? 809 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: Well, listen, I thought about that because when the Maverick's 810 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: got Kyrie, I was like this, That's why I said 811 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: it's the first step in Luca leaving. That actually is 812 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: a category three. Even though Luca did leave because he 813 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: loved Kyrie. They made the finals like I was wrong, 814 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: even though it ended up playing out that way. 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