1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This is John, this is Sam, your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. So we have some spectacular stories coming up. 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: But real quick, we got a two minute break from 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: our lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: My sister stole my fiance while I was pregnant. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 3: Did you have a receipt? 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: I have reached the edge of what I can bear. 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: I am twenty eight and I've been with my fiance 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: for just over three years. We lived together with my 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: four year old daughter from a previous relationship. Three weeks ago, 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: I found out I am pregnant again. At first I 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: was overjoyed, naive enough to think we were finally creating 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: the stable family I have always wanted. By the way, 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: this comes from the Mystic Rose, And if you want 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: Okay Storytime suppurn it. I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: and we're here to give good advice. Goofy, but we 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: don't have any answers. We only know what we'd do, 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: So let us know what you would do in the comments, 20 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: and Op says, he grew distant. The very next next day, 21 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: he ignored my excitement started coming home late, and kept 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: his phone glued to him at all times. I began 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: noticing strange calls and those discreet social media notifications that 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: vanished too quickly. My gut told me to investigate. 25 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: My gut, my leaky gut. 26 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: I almost wish I had not. He has been secretly 27 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: hooking up with my older sister behind my back. 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: Whoa, whoa. Okay, okay, now, I mean that's not okay, 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: but all right. And he started doing that right after 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: you said that you would having a baby. 31 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: She was the one I always tolerated, even though she 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: drags drama wherever she goes. She would hug me when 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: relatives were around, pretend to be the support of older sibling, 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: then turn around and bad mouth me to her friends. 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: I never imagine she would crawl into my life this deeply. 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: It felt like a slap in the face to read 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: their messages calling me clueless for not noticing you told 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: her about the pregnancy before. He was honest with me 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: about his doubts, and they joked about how stressed I 40 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: would be raising another child. What do you think you're doing, Bud? 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: Do you think you're just gonna get off easy? 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: I think he I think that's exactly what he thinks. 43 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take you for child support for everything you're worth. 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: My sister bragged that our entire family thinks she's the 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: more interesting and popular sibling. Meanwhile, I'm just the quiet 46 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: one who apparently deserves this. I do not know if 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: they're still meeting in secret or if they just get 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: a punt out of hurting me. My fiance denies everything 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: whenever I confront him, says I'm hormonal and that my 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: imagination is running wild. My sister keeps messaging me, telling 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: me I should keep my mouth shut and stop being dramatic. 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: I am done. Hyd Notice how. 53 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: She's not even denying. Yeah, She's like, you're just being dramatic. 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I took your partner. 55 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah to that? 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: Wow, what's it to you? My mother wants me to 57 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: talk it out calmly, But how do I fix something? 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: Things so broken I can barely breathe. My fiance things. 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 2: I'll just accept this. He's counting on me being too 60 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: shy or too pregnant to do anything. Tomorrow, I plan 61 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: to blow this up in front of our entire family. 62 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: We are supposed to have a casual get together at 63 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 2: our parents' house. Ironically, to celebrate my pregnancy announcement, I 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: will gather my phone, lugs, the screenshots, and all those 65 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: humiliating texts they scent each other. Once all the relatives 66 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: have settled in, I will put everything on display, no 67 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: more secrets. I might burn everything in the process, I 68 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: might lose any chance of a pleasant co parenting scenario, 69 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: but I feel like I have no other way to 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: proclaim my dignity. I've been crying NonStop for days. My 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: nerves are shot, and all I get from my fiance 72 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: is either silent treatment or insults. My sister taunts me 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: and acts like I am worthless. I see no reason 74 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: to protect them anymore. I do not know what happens next. 75 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Maybe they'll run off together, maybe they'll lie or twist 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: things around to make me look insane. My fiance has 77 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: not contributed much financially, so I worry about affording my 78 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: daughter and this potential new baby on my own. Yet 79 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: I cannot pretend everything is normal. I have to protect 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: whatever self respect I have left. I'm going to set 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: my entire world on fire tomorrow. Part of me feels terrified, 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 2: the other part is numb. Regardless, I'm done letting them 83 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: tiptoe around my heart. If they want my silence, they 84 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: should have kept their betrayal better hidden. Let everyone see 85 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: exactly who they are. That's all I have left. 86 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: That's actually it's insane that they're like, yeah, no, keep 87 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 3: your mouth shut shut, and you're like, for you, babe, 88 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: you're hormonal. Okay. The only reason this matters to you 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: right now because yeah. 90 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: Like they're actively cheating on you and then expect you 91 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: to just be fine with that. 92 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: No. 93 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: No, your sister too, is like just what the Yeah? 94 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 2: What crazy? But uh, definitely drop them and then Sueme 95 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: for child support. 96 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah I think so. 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: But we got an update update. I'm still reeling from 98 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: what happened. After writing my last post, I spent hours 99 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: debating with myself about whether I should really go through 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: with exposing them at our family gathering. A part of 101 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: me was scared I would turn my whole life upside 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: down forever, but I knew I couldn't keep letting them 103 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: walk all over me while pretending everything was fine. I 104 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: called my mom beforean to let her know I was 105 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: breaking up with them and to prepare her. When I 106 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: arrived at my parents' house, everyone was already there, including 107 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: my ex fiance and my sister. My mother tried to 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: pull me aside, whispering that we should talk first. I 109 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 2: stayed calm, walked straight into the living room where everyone 110 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: was sitting, and asked them to listen. They looked confused. 111 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: My sister immediately rolled her eyes, and my fiance mumbled something, 112 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: probably hoping I would stay silent. I started reading the 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: most shocking part. 114 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 3: It's here, this fricking drama queen about to tell people 115 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: how we're just blatantly cheating on her, and that's crazy. 116 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: She's a fool. Who are these people? Where they build 117 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: these people? The cheater factory, the cheatercake factory. 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's funny. I started reading the most shocking parts 119 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: of the messages I found Between the two of them, 120 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: they mocked me, joked about me not noticing anything, and 121 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: said I deserve this. 122 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 4: Who are these people? 123 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: I had time stands proving he was sneaking around with 124 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: my own sister while I was at home with my daughter. 125 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: My sister stood up and accused me of lying, her 126 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: voice defensive and low pitched, but I just kept reading. Oh, 127 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: he's doing a dramatic reading of this in front of everyone. 128 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 4: She goes, you're lying, You're lying, lying. 129 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: You are lying like Will in the season two of 130 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: Stranger Things, you lie like Papa, or that the messages 131 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 2: spoke for themselves. I revealed how he told her about 132 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 2: my pregnancy before even discussing it with me, and now 133 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: they laughed about me being stressed raising another child. I 134 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: fiance tried to dismiss me, claiming I overreacting and misinterpreting 135 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 2: the situation because of my emotional pregnant state. He even 136 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: blamed my mental health. But then he stormed out of 137 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: the room. My sister started crying, My dad stared at 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: the floor silent, while my mother looked horrified. Finally, my 139 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: sister snapped and stormed out, yelling that I was a 140 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: dramatic liar who blow everything out of proportion. Now the 141 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: fallout begins. My fiance, or rather my ex fiance, has 142 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: been texting me non stop. One moment he says he's sorry, 143 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: the next he blames me for humiliating him. He shows 144 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: zero genuine remorse, He's just mad that I exposed him. 145 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 2: My sister calls me horrendous name, says I ruined our image, 146 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: and refuses to take responsibility If the image is in 147 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: four K. There's not much that'll peek, can dow. 148 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: It's just like just own it. At this point, yeah, 149 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:51,679 Speaker 3: been caught. 150 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: He can't look into a mirror and say I don't 151 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: like what I see. He's just you. 152 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you can do that, but you can't 153 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: do that and then go and it's you awful someone else. 154 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: It's true. Honestly, I do not even know if they 155 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: are still seeing each other or blaming each other for 156 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: being caught. Either way, their secret is out, and that's 157 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: all I wanted. I'm now talking to a lawyer because 158 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: this man barely contributed financially before. I have to protect 159 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: my daughter and ensure I never have a child with him. 160 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: Only the thought of raising two kids alone is terrifying. 161 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story, folks, No, it's not. 162 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: There's more. I lied to you. There's a little bit. 163 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 5: More to the like papa, But do you. 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: Have any final thoughts before we get into the last part. 165 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: Of the story. I hope every other member of your 166 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: family supports you through this. I hope so I'm not 167 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: and it feels bad. 168 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, counting on that though. If they 169 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: were already like, don't bring up drama. 170 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't bring up the drama of your sister cheating 171 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: on your cheating with your husband. 172 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, what my cat's name is? Karen says they won't 173 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: stay together. It was only fun when they were cheating 174 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: on Ope. 175 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, but. 176 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 2: There's a little bit left to the story. I feel 177 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: numb and heartbroken at times, but I also feel a 178 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: strange sense of relief. At least everyone knows the truth now. 179 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: I exposed everything that day in the living room, But 180 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 2: at least I'm no longer being trampled on in silence. 181 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: My sister and ex fiance can no longer laugh behind 182 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: my back. Yes, things will probably get messy. They might 183 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: lie to other relatives, people we mutually know, or twist 184 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: the story. How are they going to twist the story though? Like, truly, 185 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 2: how would they twist it so much that people listening 186 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: to that story aren't just like, Wow, that's a blatant 187 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: lie because you were dating Opie and OPI as a 188 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: kid with you. 189 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: I mean, they could just be like, oh, it's all 190 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: fake texts, just faked a bunch of texts. 191 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, just saying like we didn't cheat at all. 192 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: Imagine they just try to be like, well, we did 193 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: do that, but like she shouldn't care. 194 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: She shouldn't care. 195 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 6: Uh. 196 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: Yes, things will probably get messy. They might lie to 197 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: other relatives, people we mutually know, or twist the story. 198 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 2: But I'm glad I refuse to keep quiet. All I 199 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 2: can do now is focus on the positive, talk to 200 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: my lawyer, and move forward. It will be painful, but 201 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: I'll do everything my power to build a new future 202 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: on my own terms are away from these people, and 203 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: that's the end of the story. 204 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: Good. I think that is the right path to take, 205 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: moving forward, rid of them. I believe that is correct. 206 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 3: Good job, Op, agreed, and I'm sorry that sucks. 207 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, good buck on raising kids. I hope that you 208 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: find a new support system that actually is there for you. 209 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story, and we've got 210 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 2: another one coming. 211 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 6: We do. 212 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: My father had a very obvious affair with mine nanny, 213 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: at least do it in secret. So basically this mainly 214 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 3: took place between the ages of like fourth to eighth 215 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: grade for me, but it's still going on in a way. 216 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: I twenty female, had a nanny growing up twenty one 217 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 3: female when this happened. She's around thirty five. Now, let's 218 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: call her jets Jackson Dexter, let's call her gex Yikes. 219 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 3: She was the big sister I've never had. We were 220 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: best friends and she was a huge that's role model 221 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: for me. I looked up to her so much. She 222 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: was gorgeous, young, and we had so much fun during 223 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 3: the year she watched my brother and I. And by 224 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: the way, this comes from user sitter banger And if 225 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: you want to submit your own stories, go to the 226 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 3: our Slashowcase story time suburd it. I'm Dakota, I'm. 227 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 5: Sophia, I'm Keon. 228 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: Well, Louis are here to give you good advice, googly, 229 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 3: but we don't have all the answers. We only know 230 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: what we would do, So if you would do something different, 231 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: let us know in the comments. As Op says, my parents, 232 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 3: especially my mom, are extremely fun and generous people. After 233 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 3: a while of her babysitting us, she grew deep friendships 234 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 3: with my parents and their friends, who were in their 235 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 3: forties at the time. She was so close with my 236 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: family to the point where my parents and company would 237 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: take her to super expensive events every weekend, nice dinners, 238 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: family vacations, bars, et cetera. She was truly a member 239 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: of the family, and she was about to get on 240 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: one of your families members. Oh bob boo, bout boo. 241 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: In fact, she got so close with my parents. My mother, 242 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: who works in a very respected profession and position, gave 243 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: Jex her car and helped and encouraged her get into 244 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: a four year university when I was around six or 245 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: seven at the time. 246 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 2: Oh no, oh, no, I don't really know. 247 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 3: I was in a spy phase and would spy on 248 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: people for fun. 249 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 2: I you know what, I understand that, not not the 250 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: spying part, but I always my friends and I would 251 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: we would play spy. 252 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 5: So you didn't understand that. 253 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: But no, I didn't didn't actually spy on people. 254 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 5: I don't believe you. That's not That's what a spy 255 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 5: would say. 256 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: No, we were. 257 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 3: Covered yourself. You were like, I actually get that, but 258 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: not fully. But I was never a spy. 259 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 5: Were you a totally spy? 260 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: Oh that was a good show. 261 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 3: I started noticing Jecks and my father acting very strange, 262 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: sneaking off, and eventually started catching them making out in 263 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: various places of my house. I knew it was wrong, 264 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: but I was too scared to say anything. To my mom, 265 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: so I kept the secret to myself because I didn't 266 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: want to ruin my family. 267 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 2: Also super concerning that the dad is like cook, I 268 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm a little concerned for Jex. Honestly, she's 269 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: like this twenty one year old girl who has been 270 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: you know, obviously she has a part to play in 271 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 2: it because she's having this affair, but definitely the fact 272 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: that he has a position of power and is also 273 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: much older than her a little ichy. 274 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: One time I went through her phone I know her password, 275 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: and found explicit text and photos sent between Jex and 276 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 3: my father. For some reason, it didn't disturb me at 277 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: the time like it does now. They eventually started becoming 278 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 3: sloppy with their affair, which they've always been sloppy with 279 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: their affair because they couldn't hide it from an eight 280 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 3: year old. 281 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, that's never been a good, well hidden affair. 282 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: They began getting sloppy with their affair, and I believe 283 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: my mom started catching on, but didn't say anything. At 284 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: this point, it was multiple years into the affair and 285 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 3: I had witnessed a plethora of things, and the guilt 286 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: of not saying anything grew bigger and bigger on my chest. 287 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 3: One time, on my mom's business trip to California. We're 288 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: from New York. They brought Jex, and my mom came 289 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: back to the hotel to Jex and my dad cuddling. 290 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: My brother and I were in the living room of 291 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: the hotel room. That night. My mom made my dad 292 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 3: sleep on the floor with her and us kids. I 293 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: remember her whispering to him in the middle of the 294 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: night that she wanted a divorce when she thought we 295 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: were sleeping. That was the first night I cried about 296 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 3: the whole ordeal, and the fness of the whole situation 297 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 3: kicked in. So my mom never got a divorce, although 298 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: I believe that is when their marriage started to dissolve 299 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: and become more of a business transaction. My mom grew 300 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: up in an extremely unstable household and didn't want to 301 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: give us kids the trauma she had to deal with, 302 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: which I think was a mistake, but I know she 303 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 3: wanted the best for us. I believe crap started hitting 304 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: the fan when my dad invited Jax to come with 305 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: us to a very prestigious business trip conference that my 306 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: mom had to attend. This is when it gets bad. 307 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: My mom was out at a company dinner. So it 308 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: was me, my brother Jax, and my father in the 309 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: hotel room think two queen beds. My brother fell asleep 310 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: next to me, and I guess they thought I was 311 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: asleep too, because they started doing the deed. 312 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: Disgusting, literally disgusted the kids. Arrest them, genuinely arrested if 313 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 2: I found out that two adults were or if my 314 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: part like, let's say I have a child and my partner. 315 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: I mean, the levels of this is insane. Not only 316 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: are they doing this in the same room, but they're cheating. 317 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 2: I just just disgusting, literally disgusting. This reminds me of 318 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: that Walking Dead scene you wan't talking about when uh, 319 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: what's his face and. 320 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 5: His wife Laurie? Is it laur And it's. 321 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: The main guy, the Rick Rick and his wife Lri Yeah, 322 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: and they're like in the same tent as their son 323 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: and they're like, he won't wake up. It's fine, crazy 324 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: and Coral's just disgusting, disgusting, your freaks and I hate you. 325 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 5: There's a freak back there. 326 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 3: Thank God my brother was asleep and didn't have to 327 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 3: witness it. I also remember I have never had to 328 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: peace so bad in my life, but I couldn't get up. 329 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: I just had to shut my eyes to pretend it 330 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: was going to be over. 331 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,359 Speaker 2: That is traumatic, Yeah, literally trauma. 332 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 5: That is traumatic trauma. 333 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: It felt like ours. I ended up peeling the bed 334 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: because I couldn't hold it anymore. 335 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: Even more traumatic. 336 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 3: Ay, then I heard banging on the door. They didn't 337 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: get up and answer it. It was my mom who 338 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: forgot her key and couldn't get back in. No, they continued. 339 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 2: What these people were monsters? 340 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: My mom called the phone in the hotel room over 341 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 3: and over and over again, coming back and knocking, but 342 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: they wouldn't get up. I remember feeling so relieved my 343 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: mom was coming back. She's my best friend in the world. Eventually, 344 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: my mom got an employee to give her a new 345 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: key and open the door, and Jack's and my father 346 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 3: jumped up and tried to compose themselves. I remember she 347 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 3: was in a bra and got under the covers and 348 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: pretended to be watching a movie. My mom, you could 349 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 3: just tell, was done. She was livid. She didn't react 350 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 3: because she would never make a scene in front of 351 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: her kids, but she looked like she was going to 352 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: unalive someone. I had to explain that. I went to 353 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 3: bed in my sleep. It ruined my views on marriage. 354 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: I never told anyone this until I was fourteen. By now, 355 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: my mom had fired the babysitter. 356 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: I am shocked that she didn't fire her before. Yeah, 357 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: she knew that they were like cuddling. She probably knew 358 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: that there was something going on. If you knew something 359 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: was going on, she should have fought. Like I know, 360 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: she didn't want to create problems for the kids, but 361 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: honestly like this and moved to not fire. 362 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 6: This was creating more problems. Yeah, for the kids and 363 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 6: for just everyone else. 364 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, like ale move not great on either of these. 365 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously her dad is like a monster, but 366 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: you know, not great moves on the mom's part. 367 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: By now, my mom had fired the babysitter. My dad 368 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 3: and my mother's relationship had ended. But it was this 369 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: weird unspoken thing that we could never bring up in 370 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: front of my dad. He has a drinking problem and 371 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: anger issues. And at this point my relationship with my 372 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: dad was really bad and we had gotten into several fights, 373 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: including me getting booted out. Mind you, these all happened 374 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 3: when my mom was out of town. She had many 375 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: long business trips. I started resenting my dad. No way started. 376 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: You just started. Dang man, you did. I wonder why. 377 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: My mom at this point freely talked about it with 378 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: my brother and I and the catches. My dad and 379 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: Jack's were obviously still together. He would leave every and 380 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: still does Thursday through Sunday. I knew because I would 381 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: have friends tell me they saw them at restaurants and 382 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: hotels right by where we live, which I don't understand 383 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 3: how ignorant you have to be. This was humiliating for me. 384 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 3: She would post on social media places. I just knew 385 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 3: who they were together. Funny thing. There's been a couple 386 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 3: occasions my dad has gotten really wasted and made me 387 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 3: text her Happy Birthday, Merry Christmas, et cetera. And we 388 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 3: have a little bit more story left. This is really terrible. 389 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: Your dad's a nightmare monster from the Black Lagoon. 390 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 6: Nightmare, nightmare, nightmare. 391 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 3: Truly, if anyone was from the Black Lagoon and happened 392 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: to be a creature hailing from said place, it would 393 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: be a father. 394 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 395 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 6: Not to bring it back to that one really traumatic point, 396 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 6: but the fact that one you were in the room, 397 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 6: two someone was your mom. 398 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 2: Was banging on bing on the door, saying. 399 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 5: Let me in. 400 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 2: Problem they didn't get up until. 401 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 6: Not even a single budget and then use a oh 402 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 6: you got so many what dude? 403 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 5: That like? 404 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the layers of this is kind 405 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: of complicated because it's obviously dad that's the worst one here. 406 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 2: Jack's is pretty bad too, but also just kind of 407 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 2: looking again at she's twenty one, he's probably you know, 408 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 2: at least mid thirties. Yeah, and also her boss, so 409 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: just really bad there too. This person I feel like 410 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: has been you know, manipulated, and she's you know, obviously 411 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: still in the wrong, but just the layers of that, 412 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: and then your mom is just not protecting you because 413 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: she thinks, in her mind, oh, if I just don't 414 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 2: say anything, it's better for the kids. 415 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 6: Why not Maybe well, it was probably not to protect 416 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 6: the mom in any way, but the mom maybe didn't 417 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 6: maybe assume the kids didn't know. 418 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: I think so. I think she assumed that they didn't 419 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: know and that it was bad for her just to 420 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: not say anything. And my point is that's never good 421 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: for the kids. I think there's just this like idea 422 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: that it's always better for the kids if you just 423 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 2: keep your mouth shut and try and keep everything. 424 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, especially when the kids will see a huge different 425 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 6: dynamic between mom and dad. 426 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, mom and dad, it's no longer talking. Yeah, kids 427 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 5: notic things, but kids won't, especially something like this. 428 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, kids are smart, but. 429 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 6: Kids sometimes don't want to get in trouble, like I 430 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 6: guarantee you. OPI is like, I know what's happening. I'm 431 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 6: not going to say. 432 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: Things so traumatized. I'm going to tell you internalize that later. 433 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: And you're like, well, why didn't I say anything? It's 434 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: my fault. 435 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, I just hope OPI doesn't 436 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 6: blame themselves. 437 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: Seven years olds keep better. 438 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 6: You didn't know any better, but you knew, you knew 439 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 6: it was wrong, but you didn't know how to handle 440 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 6: that situation. Nobody knows handle that situation your child. 441 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, damn, that's so. 442 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 5: And then you had to pee the bed. 443 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: So traumatized. 444 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 5: Oh so traumatizing. 445 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: Well, let's finish the story. I finally told my mom 446 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: when I was fourteen about how I knew for years 447 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: and what I witnessed, and it seemed like her heart shattered. 448 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 3: She felt like she failed protecting me and like she 449 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 3: should have known. They are still together to this day 450 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: and my mom is finally getting a divorce. Her and 451 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: my dad are just trying to work out the finances 452 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 3: in the house, et cetera. I don't even know why 453 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 3: I'm sharing this because it's honestly not that bad compared 454 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 3: to other trauma children have gone through. 455 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: What about literal baby? 456 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: That is really rough though. 457 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, your father who is again your father, and then 458 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: your babysitter who you looked up to, just completely blew 459 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: up your life. That's pretty traumatizing. 460 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm blessed to live such a privileged life, and 461 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: it kind of seems silly complaining about something so irrelevant. 462 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 3: But I don't think I've fully processed it, and I 463 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: don't think you have either. Given know what you just said. 464 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: Maybe I should see a therapist. I don't know, but 465 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 3: it feels really embarrassing to have to tell someone face 466 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 3: to face you should see a therapist. That is the 467 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: end of that story. You definitely need to fully work 468 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: through that because there are a lot of moving parts, 469 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: and uh, yeah, that's highly traumatic, I would assume. Yeah, yeah, 470 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: but you can get there. You're gonna be okay, You're 471 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: gonna be okay. 472 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh man, Yeah, this dad is just a horrible person, 473 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: just such a bad person. Also, I just want to 474 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to negate that the babysitter has done 475 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: like blown up a family unit, and you know did 476 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 2: was a willing participate, but it is like an element 477 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: that the dad is a much older boss. It's kind 478 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 2: of the same thing with like the the whole me 479 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: too movement of having women consenting to a relationship, but 480 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: obviously there was a really really ichy power dynamic there 481 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: which you know was not okay. So it's like, I 482 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: still think it's an element that makes the dad even worse. 483 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, she's still is helping, but he's. 484 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: Well it sounds like there what I mean, they have 485 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: a lot of money and resources and yeah, you know, 486 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 3: she's been on a lot of trips and had this, 487 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 3: so it's like, of course she's going to be attracted 488 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: to that to some extent, but she's still a. 489 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 2: Twenty one year old in this. 490 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: I just think that makes the dad twenty one year 491 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: olds can go to war and all that. I think 492 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 3: I think twenty one is old enough to I agree, 493 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: you're you're making an informed decision on like am I 494 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: going to sleep with this man who's older than me 495 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 3: or not. 496 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I agree. 497 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 3: I attracted to this guy or not. 498 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: But I would still say a twenty one year old 499 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: if I like, if I'm looking at a twenty one 500 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: year old getting with thirty six year old thirty six 501 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: or like. 502 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: You know, I'm assuming the thirty six year old should 503 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 3: be like, I'm not exactly really why would I do this? 504 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: That's my point. 505 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 3: Other than just being like, yeah, I'm using this person. 506 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: I think there is an element of he is using 507 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: her and it makes him even worse. Not that it 508 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: doesn't make her bad. That's my point. 509 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 5: Did hope he say there's still together? 510 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine being like in your forties, like yeah, 511 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: until it's just. 512 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 2: Like exactly, that's my point. 513 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: Maybe I understand when I'm in my forties, but I 514 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: can't understand now because it's like. 515 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think it just makes him like look 516 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: just just he's like a monster at that point because 517 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: of all the layers are there. 518 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but that's the end of that story. Yeah, 519 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 3: And we have another one. 520 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: Where my wife had an affair with my cousin. Trigger 521 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: warning emotional abuse, trigger warning for mentions of self harm. 522 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: I have a cousin who was also my closest friend. 523 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: As my closest friend, he was often at my house 524 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: when I lived with my parents, and he continued to 525 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: visit me frequently after I got married. I have been 526 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: married for three years. By the way, this comes from 527 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: Plastic Year twenty three oh six. And if you have 528 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 2: smit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay 529 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 2: storytime subured it. I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota, I'm Keon, and 530 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: we're here to give good advice. Goofy, but we don't 531 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: have all the answers. We only know what we'd do, 532 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: So let us know what you would do in the comments. 533 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: During these visits, my wife, who is normally shy and 534 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: reserved around my friends, began to hang out with us 535 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: from time to time because he became very familiar with 536 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: his constant visits and she saw him as a cousin 537 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: of hers as well. It's also important to note that 538 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: my wife has some undiagnosed mental illnesses such as BPD, 539 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: seasonal depression, and unresolved abandonment issues from her childhood. Eventually, 540 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: my wife began to join my cousin and me when 541 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: we would hang out together outside of the home as well, 542 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 2: and we regularly started hanging out altogether. I now know 543 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: that I was essentially setting myself up for failure by 544 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: helping them create a bond. After weeks of my wife 545 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: constantly crying and feeling depressed beyond anything I'd ever seen, 546 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: she confessed to me that the reason she had been 547 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: feeling this way was because of an overwhelming guilt about 548 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: having developed an emotional attachment to. 549 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 3: Another man, not another man. 550 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: At this point, she was completely distraught and could barely 551 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: get her words out, so I simply comforted her while 552 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: trying to hold in my shock and anger at what 553 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 2: I had just heard. She eventually confessed that it had 554 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: been going on for some time, twelve months since her 555 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 2: first feelings that she's suppressed, nine months since they started 556 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 2: talking on and off, three to four months since they 557 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 2: started talking every day, and two months since they confessed 558 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: that they had these feelings. My cousin eventually ended things 559 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: officially around four weeks ago. 560 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 3: Eh, yeah, but it doesn't really end. 561 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: I spoke to my cousin and he confessed without knowing 562 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: that my wife had already told me, and their stories 563 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: matched up. I need some advice. Is there any way 564 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 2: that this marriage is repairable, or should I just move on. 565 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: I definitely cannot trust her right now, and I'm not 566 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: sure if I ever will again. I've spoken to two shakes, 567 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: and they both advised me not to rush into my decisions. 568 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 2: But one told me to wait two to three weeks 569 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 2: and one told me to wait four to six months 570 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: for what? 571 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: What are we waiting for a sign? 572 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 2: The one who told me to wait four to six 573 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 2: months later told me that I might have to end 574 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: things sooner if my wife's mental condition doesn't improve, because 575 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: the marriage seems unsustainable. My wife and I are both 576 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: twenty five, and I have no kids. She is self 577 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 2: harming at times and often says she doesn't want to 578 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 2: live anymore because of what she's done. She's filled with guilt. 579 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 2: But she also admitted to me that she's still grieving 580 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: the loss of the friendship she had with my cousin. 581 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: What which makes my blood boil? Is it cheek or shake? 582 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 5: Thank you? So? 583 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: Just chocolate vanilla the chic? 584 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: I just want to make sure I'm pronouncing that right. 585 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 3: I don't just say chic. However you say it in 586 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 3: your heart is the right way. 587 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. 588 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: That is true. However you hear it in your heart 589 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,919 Speaker 3: is the right way to say it. 590 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: I don't know about that, Yeah, missus Jaberd says, trying 591 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: your best therapy. Yeah, she needs therapy badly, and hope 592 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: he needs to leave this relationship no matter I think, 593 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: there's always that guilt of being like my partner is 594 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: going to hurt themselves or not be well if I 595 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 2: leave them, even though they've hurt me. Yeah, but yeah, 596 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: it's not. 597 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: It's a shake shake, thank you. 598 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: The Sheikh said this is normal, but to monitor if 599 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: she still feels this way in the next few months. 600 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: This has been the biggest betrayal imaginable, and it has 601 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: also made me dread upcoming family gatherings where my cousin 602 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: will be and I'll be expected to bring my wife 603 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: because of course, no one in our family knows about this. 604 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 2: My wife is very clear that she only wants to 605 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: be with me, and she wants to make this marriage 606 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: work more than anything I've known her my entire adult life, 607 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 2: and even though our marriage is not perfect, we've been 608 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: pretty compatible so far and I simply can't imagine life 609 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: without her, even though she's hurt me in the most 610 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: unimaginable way, and there is an update. I mean, I 611 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: understand that she's got like a mental health you know, 612 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 2: disorder here, but that doesn't excuse the fact that she 613 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: cheated on you. Yeah, maybe she can find help to 614 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: you know, improve in future relationships. But I think I 615 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: don't know if you can get back that trust. And 616 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: also it very much doesn't excuse your cousin because he 617 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: has no reason for doing any of this other than 618 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 2: he just cheated with your wife. 619 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, truly nothing to be really yeah salvaged. I think, Yeah, 620 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,199 Speaker 3: I think that you can. Yeah, I not want her, 621 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 3: You cannot want her to be you want the best 622 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 3: for her of distress. But yeah, like I don't know, doesn't. 623 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: Mean you have to be with her. Two months later, 624 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: I'm trying to stay distracted by playing football, going to 625 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: the gym, and spending time with the mosque. The relationship 626 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: is volatile. Some days she is loving and some days 627 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: she's arguing with me. Well, also, we know she's BBB, 628 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 2: so we see a marriage counselor we got Nika religious marriage. 629 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: And when I was twenty one and moved in together. 630 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: When I was twenty two, my wife still holds resentment 631 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 2: and says it openly. The reasons she cited were that 632 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: I played football three to four days a week for 633 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: a few hours, and she said this abandonment was a 634 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 2: contributing factor that subsequently led to her affair. While I 635 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 2: have tried to cut off contact with my cousin, it 636 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: is difficult given the family circles. 637 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: There's no way she just blamed you like having a 638 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: hobby as the reason why she was justified and cheating 639 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: on you with your cousin. 640 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well she's trying to get any reasoning that isn't 641 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: I cheated on you because I cheated on you. 642 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, got to own it. 643 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to own it, especially because she is 644 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 2: not willing to own it completely. There is no path 645 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: to redemption here. But yeah, it's tough. There is another 646 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: update though, three months later. This week, my wife and 647 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: I divorced after being married for three and a half years. 648 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: It was very sad, so got extremely emotional and I 649 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: also shed some tears, but I believe it had to 650 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: be done as I couldn't look past the affair. My 651 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: wife is in the process of moving back into the 652 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: home we shared, and I'm going to live with my 653 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: parents for the remainder of her ida. A three month 654 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: period of separation after divorce or loss intended to restore 655 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: one's emotional and mental health and remove any confusion in 656 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,479 Speaker 2: case of pregnancy. She came to the house today and 657 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: in the evening she asked me if we could talk 658 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: because she was not happy that I was in a 659 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: bad mood towards her. 660 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: She's like, hey, thought that with me, she'd have thought 661 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: about that before you slept with my cousin. Maybe my 662 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 3: mood would be improved. 663 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: Maybe she knows. The reason was because I'm having aunties 664 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 2: call me and even coming over to try to get 665 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,239 Speaker 2: me to give my wife a second chance. No, and 666 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: I find this very triggering because they don't know what 667 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: I've gone through. I've hidden from them the fact that 668 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: she had an affair to protect her dignity and reputation 669 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 2: and to not reveal that the affair partner is their 670 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: nephew and my cousin. Honestly, if you don't want to 671 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: reveal that, maybe go to her and say, hey, you 672 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: need to get them off my back, or I'm going 673 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 2: to tell them why. 674 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: One hundred percent. Yeah, No, that's crazy. 675 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: Put it to her. They shouldn't be bothering you. 676 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 6: If everyone's give her a good chance, you're the people 677 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 6: start If your family members starts saying you're the bad guy, 678 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 6: oh boy. 679 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be like, hey, you need to get them 680 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: off my back, or I'm telling. 681 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Them the truth is John og Host. We don't get 682 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: back to the stories but a quick freemanute break of 683 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: ads from our sponsors. 684 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: They all see her as a kind girl who's very sweet, 685 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: which she is at times, but they don't know what 686 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: I've gone through with the affair and with all the 687 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: verbal abuse and temper issues throughout the marriage. I always 688 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: shielded my family from seeing this side of her. She's 689 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: also really good at being the best version of herself 690 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: around others, particularly family. There are a lot of good 691 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: things about her personality and character that I would look 692 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: for in another wife, so that should be made clear. 693 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: I told her that I didn't want to talk about 694 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: things right now, but she insisted and kept talking about 695 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: it anyway, saying that we wouldn't have any other time 696 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: to talk. She began asking why I've forgotten all the 697 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: good things she did because you cheated on him, Because 698 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: you're cheater. Kind of outweighs all the puppies you saved, 699 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: and this actually saved puppies. 700 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: We have to factor puppy. 701 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: Saving factor in the puppy saving and the sacrifices she 702 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 2: made in our marriage. What sacrifices you sacrificed the marriage, 703 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: That's what you sacrificed. And that I'm just labeling her 704 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: for one thing she did. 705 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, it's so crazy. 706 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: You're literally labeling me for the worst thing I did. 707 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 2: What about all the other good things I did? 708 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 5: Honey? I did like, I took up the. 709 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 6: Trash, I did the chores, I slept with your cousin. 710 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: Why can't you just why can't you just cast the 711 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 3: worst thing I did? 712 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 5: She would have banded over it. 713 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: It's a little booboo shadow of I think it was 714 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: borderline personality sort I think that was, Uh can you 715 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: look at s at the beginning of the story. Yeah, 716 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was borderline. 717 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 718 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: I insisted it wasn't just one thing, and I said 719 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: that I haven't forgotten about all the good because if 720 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: I had, I wouldn't be treating her with kindness. I'd 721 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 2: be cold to her like I am to my cousin. 722 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 5: It is borderline personality and seasonal depression. 723 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: Yes. 724 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: I was then alerted to news that one of my 725 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: ex colleagues and a friend was being rushed to the 726 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 2: hospital after serious car accident, and she became even more 727 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: upset that I was diverting my focus from our conversation, 728 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: saying that this was symptomatic of our problems in the marriage, 729 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: where she always had to fight for my attention and 730 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 2: that's what caused this problem between us. She's literally blaming you. 731 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: She's blaming you for cheating on you. 732 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: It's all your fault. It's all your fault. If you 733 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: had given me more attention, Lady wouldn't have cheated. 734 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: She's stinky. 735 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure that that is all that was really missing. 736 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: If you wouldn't have played football for two hours during 737 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 3: the week each day, I think. 738 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: I probably wouldn't have had time to cheat on you. 739 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 4: Fine. 740 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: She also said that for the record, after some time, 741 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: she would have forgiven me for cheating if I had 742 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: done what she had. What is. 743 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: Easy to say that, seeing guys, I haven't cheated on you, 744 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: so you can say that all. 745 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 2: She's like, well, if you had done it, I wouldn't 746 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 2: have been upset. 747 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 5: She's trying every manipulation tactic in the book rely and 748 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 5: it's just not. 749 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: She's a very sensitive person and can't even handle the 750 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 2: perceived threat of being abandoned. So if she found out 751 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: that I had an emotional relationship with another woman, let 752 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: alone a relative of hers, she would have lost her mind. 753 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 2: She even fell down to her knees crying. Why I 754 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: thought in my head, I'm pretty sure that's my line. 755 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 2: So the reason why I'm asking all this is do 756 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 2: I owe it to her to have these final discussions 757 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 2: about where things went wrong in our marriage so she 758 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: can get some closure, or do we just stop talking 759 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,959 Speaker 2: about the issue entirely and move on separately. I'm trying 760 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 2: to do everything by the book gron and Sunna and 761 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: not take away any of her writes from her regardless 762 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: of how the marriage ended. I want both of us 763 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: to be able to heal from this marriage ending. I've 764 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: always tried to carry myself with respect and honor, even 765 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 2: in the face of this most heinous betrayal. And there 766 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 2: is a third update. 767 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 6: Op, you're being too night she dis I was gonna say, Op, 768 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 6: you're being a wa way too good of a person, 769 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 6: And that's good, You're being an honorable person. But you 770 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 6: don't owe her these things, you know, anything, especially the 771 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 6: way she's trying to manipulate and be tactical about it. 772 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 6: It's gross behavior. The fact that she can't own up 773 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 6: to it and she's like, you don't have to be like, oh, 774 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 6: where did our marriage go wrong? 775 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, she cheated. Cheated, That's where it went wrong. She 776 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: cheated on you for. 777 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 5: Months with your cousin. 778 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: You guys have been together for three years total, and 779 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: she's cheated on you for a year of that. 780 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,240 Speaker 6: It's one third baby, Yeah, Like, there is no excuse. 781 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 2: And I hate when cheaters try to excuse their relationship 782 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: of their affairs by saying, oh, well, it was your 783 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: fault because there were problems in the relationship that I 784 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: never told you about. 785 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 5: Her fault and your fault. 786 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 6: Supposedly from her reasoning was you have a hobby. 787 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 2: You you play football, so. 788 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 5: I have to play with balls. 789 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: It's only fair. Update one year later, I reflect and 790 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: believe that ironically being cheated on was the key to 791 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: some of the biggest bussings in my life. Glass half 792 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: full kind of guy. I have met some incredible people, 793 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 2: travel too many countries, begun seeking Islamic knowledge, and developed 794 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: incredible friendships with brothers. Some of my family members have 795 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: figured it out or had suspicions and have gone cold 796 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: with the cousin. Good and there is another update two 797 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: years later. 798 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 6: It's also shows it shows that Opie is not trying 799 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 6: to be dramatic. 800 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 5: Ye, not trying to have drama. 801 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 6: Honestly, I would bring it up to her and like, 802 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 6: you should be so lucky that I'm not telling anybody 803 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 6: about this, and you're still bringing it up, and you're 804 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 6: still trying to not be accountable. 805 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 5: Just stop it. 806 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's just it's exhausting. 807 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 2: At this point, I'm trying to search up out a prince. 808 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 3: It's been exhausting the whole time. Really, one second. 809 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 2: I want to start by saying, Aham duli la, thank 810 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: God for everything, whether things go in a way that 811 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 2: we think is good or not. Two years ago, my 812 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 2: ex wife had an emotional affair with my cousin, and 813 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 2: that was a time that felt like I was in 814 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: a black hole with no sight of the top. Two 815 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 2: years later, I've experienced highs in my Dean walk of faith, 816 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 2: business and now personal life that seemed unimaginable at the time. 817 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: But there is a little bit left to this story. 818 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 2: Any final thoughts. 819 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 3: I hope your next wife super hot, yeah, super cool, yeah, 820 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: super hot, super cool, and. 821 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 6: She enjoys your hobbies and maybe you guys can do 822 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 6: hobbies together. 823 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: Maybe she plays football too, and she only cheats on 824 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 3: you with you like in. 825 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: Pinac Lada song. Anyway, I found out about my ex 826 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 2: wife's affair a week before Ramadan in twenty twenty three. 827 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 2: Then in the final week of Ramadan in twenty twenty five, 828 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: I met the kindest, most patient, most beautiful woman I've 829 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: met my life. She too had been married before, and 830 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 2: in her first marriage she endured her own tough trials 831 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: that shaped the person she is today, a woman of 832 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: immense strength that she does not claim or boast about. Finally, enough, 833 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 2: we met on this very separate in marriage ISO where 834 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: she saw my profile and reached out, and that simple 835 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: message led to what we have today. Alamdu la la. 836 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 2: We are now married and enjoying our honeymoon, and I 837 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't change anything that brought us to where we are today. 838 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 2: And that's the end of that story, folks. 839 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 6: I just want to know if the cousin and the 840 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 6: ex wife are now together. 841 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: Oh Lord, prop maybe I don't know. I don't think 842 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 2: that would last though, especially. 843 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 5: A lot of time at all, not at all. Malort, malort? 844 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 5: Do you want malort malort. 845 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: That's the end of that story. And we got another 846 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 2: one coming up, folks. 847 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 5: We do. 848 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 4: I caught my girlfriend cheating and it ruined her life. 849 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: How that happened? 850 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 4: And this is directly from the r slash okay story 851 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 4: time subreddit. This is one of our own here. This 852 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 4: happened over fifteen years ago. We were both thirty eight now. 853 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: She was an old high school crush. We reconnected in 854 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 4: our early twenties despite running in different circles. I was 855 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 4: into festivals, she was into clubs. We dated for about 856 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 4: a year and I got really close with her little brother. 857 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from BJH six h two 858 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 4: And if you want to submit your own stories, go 859 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 4: to the r slash okay storytime subreddits. And I'm Angie, 860 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 4: I'm Sophia, I'm Carly, and we're here to give good 861 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,359 Speaker 4: advice goofully. But we don't have all the answers. We 862 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 4: just know what we would do in the situation. But 863 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 4: let us know what you would do in the comments. 864 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 4: So Opie says, one night, I went to meet her 865 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 4: at a club where she was already hanging out with friends. 866 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 4: I linked up with her brother and we headed in, 867 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 4: only to see her sitting on her coworker's lap, chatting 868 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 4: casually with everyone like it was nothing. Her brother looked shocked. 869 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 4: We walked up and she went pale, and I just 870 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 4: casually asked how everyone was doing, pretending I didn't notice. 871 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 4: She brushed it off as normal. I think she had 872 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 4: been flirting with this coworker let's call him Dean, because 873 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 4: he's a total wiener at work. But I don't know 874 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 4: how Dean goes into that, like just another D word. 875 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: The only thing, yeah, the only thing I can think 876 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 2: of is like Gilmour girls, because Dean, Okay, okay, I 877 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: don't know your shirt right now is making quite. 878 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 4: A good Yeah, yeah, that's that's probably why. Yeah, but 879 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 4: that night was the first time that she actually crossed 880 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 4: the line and did something physical. When I left the club, 881 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 4: I casually walked out like nothing was wrong, but deep 882 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 4: down I knew it was over right then and there. 883 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 4: I told him that I was heading to a house 884 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 4: party elsewhere, and her brother came with me, apologizing for 885 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 4: her the whole way. The party turned out to be 886 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 4: at this girl's place, who is female thirty five now, 887 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 4: she was eighteen back then, someone I had flirted with 888 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 4: and run into at festivals over the past year or so. 889 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 4: We hit it off while her brother hung out and 890 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 4: had fun. About an hour later, my girlfriend showed up 891 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 4: out of nowhere. I still don't know how she tracked 892 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 4: us down. She apologized, acted normal, and tried to get 893 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 4: me to go back to my place with her. 894 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 3: I declined. 895 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 4: She even asked to crash in the host's bed to 896 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 4: lure me in, but I said no. I told her 897 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 4: brother to drive her home and let him know that 898 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 4: I was done. I didn't trust her anymore, and we 899 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 4: were over on her way out, I stayed polite while 900 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 4: he told her that she had messed up big time. 901 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 4: That night, I hooked up with the host Okay, in 902 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,320 Speaker 4: her bedroom. Wow, the exact same one that my girlfriend 903 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 4: had been trying to drag me in two just minutes earlier. 904 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 2: Wait, with the. 905 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 4: Door open and people all around the house while the 906 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 4: party raged on, I'm. 907 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 2: Sorry, what just happened? 908 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,280 Speaker 4: What? 909 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 3: Wait? 910 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, can you like cash me? 911 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 6: Like? 912 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 913 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 2: I literally am so confused, so much just happened. 914 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 4: So, okay, they're at a girl's birthday party. This is 915 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 4: after he saw her at the club with her on 916 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 4: boss's lap. Okay, so right now, all. 917 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 2: He knows is that she sat on someone's lap. 918 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 4: I guess so. But he still was like, that's over, 919 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 4: and so she, I think, was like apologizing and then 920 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 4: trying to seduce him into the party girl's bedroom to hook. 921 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 3: Up at this party. 922 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 4: And then he was like, no, brother, take her home. 923 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 4: I'm done, and then he went back to the party, 924 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 4: hooked up with party with the birthday girl in that 925 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 4: bedroom doors open party, going on, oh, pe crazy that. 926 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 2: You're one of our own. Yeah, not a great move. 927 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: Pretty bad move if you're still calling her your girlfriend 928 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 2: at the time. 929 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're done, Yeah, but. 930 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 2: He's still called he didn't say my ex girlfriend. Yeah, 931 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,919 Speaker 2: y'all aren't actually done. It's I mean, also, just it's 932 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 2: not even okay. If you are done and you have 933 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 2: broken up, do not a classy. 934 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 4: Move you Oh for sure, for sure. 935 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: I I gotta give it to you straight op. 936 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just I'm just like, there's a lot of 937 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 4: layers there, but the one that I'm stuck on is 938 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 4: that you left the door and hooked up with the 939 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 4: door open. Yeah, people all around. Yeah, that's wild, that's 940 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 4: so wild. 941 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 2: Speed Yeah. 942 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 4: But even her brother came back after dropping her off 943 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 4: and joined in the vibe. What I'm guessing vibe cannot 944 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 4: what yikes. I didn't talk to my ex for about 945 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 4: five years. After that, I started dating the host and 946 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 4: that lasted about nine months. She ended up with Dean 947 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 4: a few months later. From when I heard Dean was 948 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 4: a heavy drinker who treated her like garbage. 949 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 3: Yikes. 950 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 4: He basically moved himself into her house and had this 951 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 4: gross habit of geeing in the corner of her bedroom 952 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 4: when he was two wasted to make it to the bathroom. 953 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 2: Why do you know this? How do you know this? 954 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 2: That would anyone ever share this import I mean. 955 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 4: That's like the kind of rumor that would I think 956 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 4: go around. But yes, like, can you believe this happened? 957 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: But she who is she telling? Unless you're breaking out 958 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: with the guy, I would never tell anyone. Yeah, I 959 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 2: would keep that to myself unless I broke up, and 960 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 2: then I'd be like, oh my god, you will not believe. 961 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 3: This crazy thing. 962 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 4: Dude, that's wild. 963 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 964 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 2: So okay, So she seems like she cheated, he breaks 965 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 2: up with her, yep, I guess that was a little 966 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 2: unclear to me. Yeah, and then he immediately hooks up 967 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: with someone else yep, dates her for nine months, and 968 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 2: then I guess she got with the boss man. Oh, pep. 969 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 2: It seems like you are reeling in this moment. 970 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hey's Sean here. We're gonna get back to 971 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: this episode. But a quick three minute break with Azer 972 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: more sponsors. 973 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 4: They stay together long enough to have two kids. 974 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 2: What this is a wild story. 975 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 4: He barely lifted a finger for them and didn't provide 976 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 4: any financial support. She finally left him and had to 977 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 4: sell her house to get away. Now she's been a 978 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 4: great new partner who's stepped up as a dad to 979 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 4: her other two kids in every way, and they've had 980 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 4: two more together. Now, deean totally irresponsible man. He has 981 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 4: zero to do with her or the kids. And there 982 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 4: is a little bit more to this story. But Wowie Zouie. 983 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: I don't even know what advice to give you. Yeah, 984 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 2: because it seems like it's been five years you've. 985 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 4: Been more than that. 986 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it seems like you didn't cheat on her, 987 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: because it seems like you did break up. That was 988 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: a little unclear to me. So you're in the clear there. 989 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: I would just say, like, in the future, if we 990 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 2: ever have messy breakups like this, you know, don't maybe 991 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: don't don't immediately hook up with someone else at a party. 992 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 2: It's just not healthy, you know, it's not a healthy 993 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 2: way to process. But like feels like you probably know 994 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: that now. 995 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, all of the people in this story are just 996 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 4: like wacky Doodle, the wacky Doodle, Like, all the love 997 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 4: to you, especially since you're one of our own. 998 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 2: That makes you special. It makes you special. 999 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 4: But but and also I just a wild story. I hope. 1000 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 2: I hope five years pat later, I hope we are 1001 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,479 Speaker 2: in more like stable part of our life. 1002 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I hope. 1003 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, there this was like yeah, years, years, 1004 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 4: years ago. 1005 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you probably yeah, you're probably doing way better now. 1006 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, hopefully there's a little bit more to the story. Recently, 1007 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 4: her brother told me that she only got with Dean 1008 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 4: and stuck it out because I moved on the same night. 1009 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 4: She wanted to quote prove that it was worth it 1010 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 4: and show that she had it better than meat. 1011 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 2: Well she sucks. 1012 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do feel bad about how it ended. There 1013 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 4: was no direct to communication for me, just ghosting through 1014 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 4: her brother for years. There was no drama or fighting, 1015 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 4: and if we run into each other now we chat 1016 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 4: like old friends. But knowing she went through all that 1017 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 4: heck with Dean partly because how I handled it, it 1018 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 4: eats at me. Was my lack of closure of the spark. 1019 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 4: I just needed to vent this and there is no 1020 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 4: more to that story. But I don't know. I don't 1021 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,399 Speaker 4: think you have to feel guilty about it. 1022 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: No, I don't think you need to feel guilty about 1023 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: anything that happened with your ex girlfriend because she cheated 1024 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 2: on you. Yeah, However, I think it just like just 1025 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,479 Speaker 2: going forward knowing that that was not a healthy way 1026 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 2: to handle that situation is going to benefit you. 1027 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's so. Yeah, I think your actions 1028 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 4: just mostly affected you. I think, you know, because she 1029 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 4: saw that and made those choices because of that is 1030 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 4: that's all her choice. She did not have to react 1031 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 4: that way. 1032 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 3: And also, I. 1033 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 4: Don't think that you have to feel bad about that 1034 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 4: at all. It's more of just like we want you 1035 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 4: to change for your own sakes exactly. But I'm sure 1036 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 4: you have though, yeah, I mean five years yeah, yeah, 1037 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 4: like yeah, that was that was that was that was that. 1038 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 4: I do wonder because this was like this was this 1039 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,240 Speaker 4: happened over fifteen years ago, So I hope that. 1040 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,040 Speaker 2: Wait, it's happened fifteen years ago. 1041 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, five, no, because it started out when OPI was 1042 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 4: like twenty one. Oh and now Op's thirty eight, and 1043 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 4: so there we got like five years in this story. 1044 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 2: But you've got to play it now. Yeah. 1045 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to be gotta be good. If you've 1046 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: got an update for that, let us know, because I'm 1047 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 4: I hope that you're you're doing well. If it's still 1048 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 4: eating at you, I'm sorry, I don't think it needs to. 1049 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think it. 1050 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think so. 1051 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I think when you're young, you often 1052 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 2: handle things like this poorly. Yeah, it's just something to 1053 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,360 Speaker 2: learn from, Yeah, which I think you have, I'm sure. 1054 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story. 1055 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 4: Yes it is. 1056 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 2: And that's the end of the episode. So if you 1057 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 2: love us, make sure to subscribe. We love you and 1058 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 2: see you all.